The Gentrification Gamble
Вставка
- Опубліковано 9 кві 2024
- So, is "white flight" good or bad, now?
-----
Join the community discord! ► / discord
Watch Us LIVE (And Click Dat Sub Button!) ► / shortfatotaku
SFO Arcade Archive Channel ► / gameboomer
Dev Kit Channel ► / @thedevkit
Dev & Friends Channel ► @DevAndFriends
Devonetized Channel ► @SFOBackups
-----
SUPPORT THE SHOW:
BTC:bc1q6udqgvfm9uaj59l24ut7f73wvsfu707kk6pn3m
SubscribeStar! ► www.subscribestar.com/shortfa...
Streamlabs! ► streamlabs.com/shortfatotaku
Patreon! ► / shortfatotaku
Paypal! ► paypal.me/shortfatotaku
Humble Bundle Affiliate Link! ► www.humblebundle.com/subscrip...
Amazon CAN Affiliate Link! ► amzn.to/322aFAa
Amazon USA Affiliate Link! ► amzn.to/30PLxgN
Amazon CAN Wishlist! ► www.amazon.ca/hz/wishlist/ls/...
Amazon USA Wishlist! ► www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls...
-----
SFO-CIAL MEDIA! HYUK HYUK
DA TWEETS ► currently banned lol
DA FACES ► / sfotaku
DA GABS ► www.gab.com/shortfatotaku
DA MINDS ► www.minds.com/shortfatotaku
DA PARLERS ► parler.com/profile/Shortfatotaku
DA STEAMS ► steamcommunity.com/groups/Shor...
"black people used to live here."
Yes, and Italians lived there before the black people. So what's your point?
"Well f**k them, they left because they were racist!" They just hate white people, it's that simple.
and Latinos will live there next
@@edmondgreen7970
Then, the Martians.
And not too long ago Native American Indians lived there
@@garbearfar1394 and before them the Clovis people lived there.
Leftists try not to be segregationists challenge: Impossible difficulty.
Racial purity is a good thing when progs want it. 🤔
Quit making them sound good
How is this segregationist? It's literally white people moving into majority black and hispanic communities. Regardless of politics that is the literal opposite of segregation.
I love how they self segregate, like it’s a problem or something for civilized folks. And what’s it called when they move around the world ghettoizing everything they touch? Is there a name for that?
@@susanmcmasterson956 If the culture is ghetto, what caused to culture to be ghetto? Could it be caused by poor education and honor culture and multitude of other generally negative effects associated w/ poor groups (group that in many cases were pushed into being poor by the way), or does that back up the line of questioning too far for you to freely shit on "them", so you'll avoid it.
Wasn't nerd culture and the like gentrified? Like "lara croft is going to get rid of 'colonialism' and the removal of so-called problematic things?"
Every subculture gets gentrified.
I never thought about it that way but 100%
Not really, as the original audience hasn't been priced out. Nerd culture has just been uh sterilized to appeal to everyone and offend nobody.
@@giannieditsvideos so forcefully colonized is far more accurate
@@allister-malister9179 not always chess and Mahjong seem to be intact
Screaming at white people to get out of the neighbourhood:❤
Screaming at minorities to get out of the neighbourhood:💔
Hehehe
White people are a minority
gotta love how the progs opposed to gentrification always use "blood & soil" as a reason lmao
Yeah and don't ever bring up how the current community often displaced a white community that lived there before them
@@The_left_hand_pillar I don't believe that anyone has the right to claim ownership over a territory merely by virtue of having been there first (which in most cases isn't even true). "Finders keepers" doesn't really work when all the land has already been populated. Demographic shifts in this respect -- either by conquest or subversion -- are a form of evolution imo, be it good or bad.
Because
the same ideology that came from the same academic sources. All the leftist collectivists were highly educated academics and implemented the same policies. Let's compare the language:
1930s: We need to treat or syerilize the disabled because it isn't a life worth living."
2024: We need to sterilize for gender affirming care because it is a life not worth living."
It's funny how these feminists actually got pushed out by the same people they supported it seems to always be the monkey's paw for these types of people. They make a wish and they don't think of the long-term ramifications until it hits them square in the face and they start wishing they never made that wish to begin with
v54
v51
Gentrification has always been a double edged sword for me living in the Seattle area. Growing up, there were a bunch of shitty areas around the city, and as more and more wealthy people moved in, those blocks and neighborhoods got less shitty, but we’re in turn filled in with generic far-left weirdos. It also has made living around here extremely tough.
My experience might be the exception but my neighborhood is I guess being gentrified but it’s all the locals selling their old run down homes taking the money and buying the new ones being built in the same area. Some people are moving in from other places but most of the people who lived here before the development are still living here. The only people who left are the people on drugs and the homeless but they simply went a few streets down because there’s less empty buildings to squat in where they used to hang around. I guess it depends on the people and the choices they make on if a neighborhood’s residents completely change or not.
How come Portland has a better comedy scene than Seattle, but Portland seems like the more far left place?
My experience living one state down from you. Californians came in here with their minimum wage income (for California) and bought up all the houses because they were "so cheap." Now they expect California prices while demanding you make three times the rent in income. Can always tell it's them too because first thing they *ALWAYS* do is cut down all the trees. It's a literal blight on our state.
As a fellow Washington local. Fuck you. Gentrification has ruined our neighborhoods. Look at Washington in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and early 2000s. It's been downhill since, all you get with Gentrification is more white marble tower intellectual yuppies disconnected from the lower rungs of society.
Look at white center/aurora/lakewood/tacoma/3rd & pike, etc washington is a failure of Gentrification with a constantly increasing crime rate. I blame all the Tech imports for ruining our state and turning a blind eye as cartel flood our streets with fent
@@aresjerryprobably better bars and closer to California so it pulls more talent
But that's just a guess from my ass
Immigration is a great current example of NIMBYism imo.
Prog logic getting really strained when people hundreds of miles away from the border have to deal with the actual fallout of it. Changing a lot of positions when losing their welfare funding to refugee influx.
Progressives don't progress anything. They're just progressing society towards becoming a totalitarian globalist shit hole.
If only. Changing position requires some basic pattern recognition skills, and they aren't as intellectually gifted as the common rat.
I thought about that time where a bunch of Californians moved to Mexico and gentrified the area to the point where it pissed off a lot of the people there. But they have a reason to be upset because they're not only gentrifying the area but they're also erasing their culture in that area since nobody spoke Spanish and all the shops and places became American own businesses and everything got way too expensive for locals to even live there.
@@dapperwolf6034 They are finally getting a taste of their medicine so to speak, which is good. Now they know what it feels like to be in that same situation as we do
What about when an army of mexicans flood a border town and displace everything that used to exist?
Who loves seeing progs infighting?
Being serious though, I remember watching an educational film from 1954 involving a bunch of young men (all of whom were obviously white) safely driving from LA to Las Vegas and back again for the California Highway Patrol last year and one of the men who participated in it said they lived in Compton. Boy, it was surprising to hear that considering what Compton is like today.
Progs infighting runs the risk of rarifying and normalizing the crazy terms they are both arguing on.
Congratulations; you just demonstrated the effects of propaganda; as all "educational" films from the 60's tended to be. This being a cultural battleground era between the deeply traditional authority at the time and the dissident counter culture.
The exact reason they only showed a particular group of people was to create this very perception in your uncritical brain; and it worked exceptionally well it seems.
You just demonstrated the effects of propaganda.
Those people were chosen to give you this effect. By the 60's Compton's demographics had already shifted.
What’s the documentary?
@@beachwind7274 "Show 'Em The Road". It was made in 1954 actually (it's been a while since I saw the film actually, hence why I thought it was from the early 1960s originally) for Mobil Gas. They had a "Safety and Economy" competition, driving from the Los Angeles area to the Inland Empire, the desert, to Las Vegas, Nevada and Hoover Dam, then back home again.
As a native working class Londoner my culture has been completely obliterated
i remember wanting to go to london on a vacation in i think 2010 to see the sights but in current year im like nah ill stay where i am.
What culture?
@@chilbiyito it's called cockney
don’t you vote for that?
@@chilbiyito I'm willing to bet 5 dollars that you call people racist for not even knowing basic information about your heritage
"Should I stay or should I go? If I go there will be trouble, if I stay it will be double"
-Team Rocket
"If I move in it will be gentrification, and displace these peoples from their home nation."
"If I move out it will bring inner thoughts to light, it will be considered to be white flight."
"MEOWTH THAT'S RIGHT"
@@Lucas-sk5iy The Clash said it first.
@@lainiwakura1776 but did they say it best?
Add to the list:
Isn't attracted to Black Women -> Racism
Is attracted to Black Women -> Exoticization -> Racism
Interestingly this doesn't seem to apply to women who like black men...or women...yeah this is just a white guys thing.
It always was
It really should. I don't have an issue on principle but there is a weird fetishization of black men and the relationship is usually trashy and unhealthy. I'd be very concerned if my daughter brought home a black guy. "Does she just like him and he happened to be black or did I fuck up as a parent?"
I've heard there's another term for those types of women.
You find that most of the time, it's white women espousing these views. That an Asian men but that's a gender flipped version where they get bent out of shape seeing an Asian girl with a white guy (while simultaneously thirsting for white women)
into mid black women with bad wig -> white millionaire
It happens in the country too. Buy a cheap piece of land and pay cheap property taxes. Developers swoop in and turn the woods into suburbs. Get a letter from the tax assessors office stating your property value has doubled along with your property taxes. The same letter says in nice legalese that if you can't afford it, then too bad.
It's a big problem with race tracks. Someone builds a race track in the middle of the boondocks. It spawns a whole community around it due to its popularity. The community spawns a high class suburbia. 20 years later, that high class suburbia is now owned by people who don't know or care about racing - they are there for the nice neighborhood and community. They start to attack the race track and try to get it shut down. It's happening all over the country, and it's a shame. I'm told it's actively forcing car groups onto the streets because....well, where else can they go? Their track got shut down!
Happened to so many of the dragstrips from round my home. Really a shame.
It's about to happen in my town. I'm not exactly a local but I'm not happy about this
@@goatskin4487 that's only good if you're interested in selling.
It invalidates the argument that people are selling just because they would rather take the money than save their community. Poor people are forced out of their community by the rise in property taxes.
The black man arguing with the white hipster woman had me thinking - if she wanted to be a part of the community, she could simply have gotten the permits she needed and she could have invited her entire neighbourhood. You know, actively participating in her community.
I don't understand why it's a bad thing to want a neighbourhood to be nicer. Low crime and general safety because your neighbours are nice people.
I'm not a wealthy woman, in fact I'm on government benefits due to personal health reasons, but thanks to having a family with means I live in a nice but not high class area of my large city. The people here are relatively diverse, with a lot of foreign students living in student housing interspersed by old pensioners and young families with toddlers.
It's safe here, people often say "good morning" and people pick up turds from their animals. And while I'm very bad in general with socialising, I feel like a part of the neighbourhood.
Obviously, I'm from a part of Europe with relatively little immigration. We do have immigrants and second/3rd generation people here, but majority of non-whites want to participate in the country, their neighbourhoods, their communities. And the native population wants to engage with the newcomers. It's not a perfect world but it's still something.
Ah you see you've made an easy mistake. Thinking the white hipsters want to be a part of "that" community.
You live in the nice part, with the nice foreigners. I live in the shit part with the shit foreigners.
I think the key to successful integration is it has to be gradual. Newcomers need to trickle in slowly and assimilate/be welcomed. If too many come in at once, it can overwhelm any existing community if there was one. Or if the newcomers are all the same background, they're more likely to just form a separate group amongst themselves and have little reason to mingle.
@@darwinxavier3516 I think you hit it on the head. A community needs to be open to newcomers but the newcomers need to be open to the community as well. It's a give and take situation.
Progressives definition of community involvement is when they want to on weekends for a few hours. They don't want community they want the "experience" of community
Interesting... So if a bunch of people of different "character" move into an area and fundamentally change it, it's a bad thing? Does this go both ways, then?
yes, the entire idea is changing of the "character" of an area away from its original standpoint. It can either be the hipster demographic causing taxes to rise and outprice people or it could be low income people bringing an area "down".
Stop noticing things.
@@NoahGooder unless you are going to impose some sort of draconian rules regarding who can buy or sell property in an area, such changes are inevitable...
@@biostemm we already have those changes informally. They are "imposed" by gated communities. These lands are just up for grabs.
@@biostemmor some other draconian rules setting strict quotas regarding minimum amount of housing built, minimum quality built, and maximum rent/sale chargeable and keep a firm eye on it. Beyond the obvious though, it would kill the real estate market and probably dissuade anybody other than *maybe* large corporations from landlordship in the area
8:15
I bet she screamed at the top of her lungs about how Kyle Rittenhouse is a monster.
But when her place was destroyed I wonder if she secretly wished there was a Kyle there to protect her property.
That's how it always is. Raging against the protectors for "being toxic", and when they finally throw their hands up, they whine. And the whole time they'll deny the cyclical nature of history, insisting that it linearly progresses
@@1495978707 The first and second points are very much disconnected, classic brainrot moment.
Im still sad about hearing that a cat cafe got vandalized for no reason
Honestly it's such a ridiculous thing to target I chuckled a little bit. Like at least you can stereotype an art gallery or fancy coffee shop as a place for decadent rich people. A cat cafe is just gonna be 70% cool wine aunts
It's because it wasn't a Catgirl Cafe, it was the bad kind.
@@SlurMaster9000cool wine aunts are gentrification as well. You don't have to be decadent and rich, you just have to be middle-upper middle class in many a prog/lefty's eye
Despite being the entire core of the American dream, the modern extremist left denies the existence of the middle class. Yes, it is true that it has shrunk, but it's definitely still around. @@highbread817
Cats aren't the racist gentrifiers. They hate everything equally and can live in the woods easily. Reject humanity, return to cate.
"I'm not racist, I contribute to low income housing projects."
What did she mean by this?
Lowering Tyrone´s heating bill by keeping his bed warm?
Funding low income housing projects that disproportionately support Black/minority groups due to their lower income status?
The left doesn't deny the fact black people are poor, they just cite socio-ecological factors, and the right blames it on race.
She means she paid the indulgence tax to the priest at her Roman Catholic Church… straight up, a lot of
Immoral People think they can buy their way out of their debt on their soul. This is the church in the 1400s all over again.
Diversity is incredibly expensive. Funded by taxpayers
When the entire concept of gentrification is that poor black communities are being pushed out of areas, I don't understand where you're confusion is coming from; it's practically in the definition.
It's actually a myth that property taxes determine the quality of a school. Schools in America have 2 sources of funding, local property tax and federal funds. In better neighborhoods the property taxes can handle the bulk of expenses and schools draw very little from federal education funds. In poorer neighborhoods the federal government provides most of the money for public schools and this usually results in those schools having more money per student than those that mostly rely on property taxes.
I thought it was mainly state funding instead of federal, but you are right about everything else.
It depends on the state and in some cases the city / county districting. Chicago uses the property taxes from each individual school district (frequently with absurd borders to cave to local pressures) to fund their schools, which results in massive disparities for communities literally across the street. Maryland uses a combination of state and county taxes to fund schools, which means that there is some meaningful quality differences across county lines (especially in western and eastern, away from DC), but not within the districts in terms of funding. Baltimore in particular is one of the best funded school system per pupil, but has abysmal results.
Like most things in the US, it really depends on the state for how it works. Even in two states that are overwhelmingly progressive, there's huge differences.
private schools often work with far less money per student too and shit on public schools.
@@pepperonipizza8200 Technically, the feds aren't allowed to fund schools. Instead, they can give money to states, but with strings attached, which means that states either do things the federal way or leave huge amounts of money behind... while their citizens pay for schools in the states that play ball.
You'll notice that this is something of a pattern; most of the things the US government isn't allowed to do domestically it accomplishes by bribing the states. Or, more clandestinely, foreign governments for things the states aren't allowed to do either.
Local taxes are the overwhelming source of funding for public schools in the us. Only 8% come from Federal. However, discussion on school quality is way more than just money. Some of the worst performing school districts in the country have the highest per pupil funding.
I should probably have expected "Where are you from?" to go from a microaggression to "preventing gentrification" since they have always been the same argument.
The complaints I usually hear about gentrification all sound like the complaints I make about mass immigration, ditto for the justifications as to why its a good thing
It is small scale mass migration
"the great replacement is a racist myth." but also "HELP!!! HELLLPPP!!! WE'RE BEING REPLACED IN GREAT NUMBERS!!!"
You love to see it.
Good video as always. This reminds me of how the native English population have become a minority in London their own capital city. Many moved out to more rural or suburban places. If they were to start moving back, lefties would start screeching predictably 'muh racist gentrifiers!'
The story of the UK is a real shame. That place has so much character and history and it's slowly being buried by immigrant gang violence.
"Violate the rights of the individual for the good of the community"
When would that ever happen for 3 years straight
After living in Chicago and other major American cities during my 20s and most of my 30s let me just say that the only winning move is to not play. Let the libs and leftists squabble over the inner city and find yourself a nice suburb where you can fit in. You'll find that you have to deal with SO much less bullcrap, have more freedom, and a MUCH more quiet and pleasant community. Even better if it's in or near a college town with an international presence as you'll have all the access of international food and culture as you would in a big city for a fraction of the price, and hassle.
the interesting thing about chicago is that it’s suburbs are rarely actually suburbs in the traditional sense, by which i mean that the surrounding towns were already there long before the term “suburb” even existed. they were not developed as specific residential areas, but were simply absorbed by the ever expanding city, until they became suburbs just by proximity. but most of the surrounding towns have been around for more than 100 years.
they certainly have development areas within them that meet that old definition of what a suburb is: specifically development areas outside of the main city that were designed to be residential areas for those who work in the city, but the towns themselves are unique thriving areas of their own that have all (or most, after covid, nothing seems to be open for 24 hours anymore) the commercial options of the big city without all the constant noise and more importantly, without all the crime.
their only real failing is that all directly surrounding towns and villages all still happen to be part of the political cesspool that is Cook County, and any attempts to cut themselves out of what should ONLY affect Chicago is swiftly cut down by the corrupt political machine that runs Chicago, the county, and the State- democrats. cuz unlike California, most of the rest of the state of illinois is fairly conservative, or at least not progressive, yet we are all basically ruled by the dipshits in control of Chicago and Springfield… basically, we need a statewide electoral college. if we had one, we might actually become a functional state, instead of one of the most corrupt states in the country
Suburbs are still too crowded, I'll stick with the middle of nowhere.
I hate suburbs, they require cars, and I just want to be able to walk to the grocery store and get my groceries.
The irony in those parts of NYC with those protests shown, white people (as are generally considered today) pre-dated the black populations in those same neighborhoods for the most part. Italians, Irishman, Russians, Poles, etc, they eventually left, were pushed out, etc and were eventually replaced in those neighborhoods by the same blacks/hispanics/etc. Arguably, those people are only moving back to what was originally “theirs”, albeit while making everything more expensive and such.
I like how the Black guy just turns into Rambo. "IT ISNT OVER, NOTHING IS OVER"
more like a basic Karen that thought HE owned the street. Turns out it doesn't matter how long you've squatted in the same house. Other people are still a thing. Dev is wrong, the White people did in fact have a permit. Not sure why he was trying to make the asshole black dude sound like the wronged party but that's what I've come to expect from wishy washy people like him.
And yet it is.
My view on it, when it comes down to it.
Those who hate gentrification want to create a form of gated community, but refuse to pay for the gates to protect it.
Bingo!
And want to be able to mandate that nobody be allowed to leave or prioritize money over continuing to live there. Freedom of association and property rights are VERY important people.
Its a shame Dev didn't talk about white flight of Truckers from Gentrified Canada by black Prime Minister of Canada, Falsedoe! 😔
"Its coming, honest"
He'a not black! He's Cuban.
+1 more month to the wait time
@jn8027 I think we all know that if it ever does happen, it will be 10 years from now, and it'll be "Trudeau bad, far right evil truckers worse, and threat to our democracy"
What I don't get is how people think it's going to happen, like when people got irrationally peeved about the April Fool's video
From what I've seen, he's not serious about the Trucker Protest video, it's basically an in joke here (though one most viewers take seriously) he's been trolling people about it for a long time
Many of these neighborhoods were once high income before the residents moved out to the suburbs. The original inhabitants are simply moving back.
Reconquista: Amerifat edition
Brixton in London is a really good example
@@Doogie95oooh, what?
I caught white flight accusations, grandpa was a Sicilian immigrant married to a 2nd Gen Calabrese American. Back in late 60s, he went to Kentucky from Chicago. Without context people ALWAYS assume due to black people. In reality, the road his shop was on was closed off for a homicide investigation right outside the alley of his shop, body in trunk. He left due to Chicago Outfit aka La Cosa Nostra Italian Mafia, his people so to speak. This was back when the Outfit was god of the city. It's ironic
Get this guys, it's got exposed brick. EXPOSED BRICK!
"Gentrification"
a.k.a
"How dare you improve my neighbourhood?"
Wine bar.
Chique restaurant.
Kenny's house.
Apple store. Check.
Starbucks. Check.
Homeless camps. Check.
Fentanyl Zombies. Check.
Honduran people traffickers. Check.
Thanks for the clarification on the first video, I'd be furious if my neighbors shut down my road without my consent.
Spoiler: it isn't put to a vote, nor does it need to. Your "consent" is irrelevant because it isnt YOUR road.
Cities have a process for people that do this for block parties. Notices are sent to all of the homes on the street that it is happening, and the closing is only for a few hours on one day.
If you dont know it's happening, then you were not paying attention to your mail.
@@WillmobilePlus That's assuming these people actually did what they were supposed to do, which is in doubt.
@@WillmobilePlus SFO specified that they didn't contact the government about it, so your point is moot.
@@robinthrush9672 Maybe if you looked at the video, you would clearly see a road closure gate in front of the road.
YOU CANNOT GET THOSE FROM THE CITY UNLESS YOU CLEAR THIS WITH THEM. These people didnt have these ordered from Amazon. SFO got this aspect incorrect.
I know this because we also had a block party and you have to get these directly from the traffic department, and there is a procedure you have to go through to do it. some rando cant just ask for them.
@@AJadedLizard So the city just delivered road closure gates to some rando dude that called up for them? That's not howe it works. Here is the process for Chicago:
*Rules Regarding Block Party Permits Requests*
-Block party applications should be submitted through you local aldermanic office.
-Block party permits are for the use of Chicago residents and can only be applied for the street on which they reside. Businesses or outside organizations should apply for a festival permit.
-Requests for Block Party Permits from the Aldermanic Offices must be received by the Department of Transportation within three (3) business days prior to event to insure the permit is issued for the event. Permits are issued on a first come, first served basis.
-Block Party Permits will not be issued on any Federal Aid Urban Streets (i.e., arterial streets) or on a bus route.
-Block Party Permits will not be issued for more than one (1) day in succession or to close any street for a commercial purpose.
-A block party permit will only be issued for a single block (intersection to intersection).
-Access to any parking spaces controlled by meters or pay boxes must be maintained at all times.
-In addition to the rules listed above, Block Party Permit requests may be denied by the Department of Transportation for the following reasons:
*Incomplete application (missing information)
Traffic control issues
*Issues related to other permits issued in the vicinity of the event
*Public safety concerns
*****Applicants must provide evidence that a majority of the residents on the affected block(s) approve of the block party.*****
> I was raised here
> Where you from?
The Great Replacement is a conspiracy btw 😉 wink wink
The great replacement theory is acting like it's an intentional effort and not just an obvious truth that a diverse group will become more homogenized (aka non-white since that is an outlier skintone throughout the world) over time. That's like one of the simplest things a person can learn in statistics, it's called central limits theorem, aka, as something gets more data points, it approaches normal (bell curve) distribution. Only be afraid of it if you're too weak to preserve or integrate your culture.
It is and any body who believes it is real is dumb 🙄.
The Gentrification is weird thing, especialy in latinamerican countries, because in some cases literally some people were force out at gunpoint to sell at really low prices, just to become airbnb complex at exhorbit prices to "digital nomads" form Canada or USA, or in some cases just buy entire block of houses to the homeowers, (who dont live there) to kick the renters and make rent the SAME house to "digital nomads" and again at exhorbit prices, and the other people living the same zone, get more expensive everything, from taxes (mansions get built), more robbers, appliances get more expensive, and the new people sometimes actually get hostile with the locals, just to get more space (acting like they own the entire place) screaming "I'm american you poor B@s****" i'm not joking, look it, so people can't stay in their own houses because all those things, and have to sell their own properties to pay debt, and go to live in rent on some cheap places, the things are getting so bad that in some places the locals actually engage in fights with foreigners, or are actually annoying to get them out, look for "banda sinaloense debate in mazatlan" is really funny.
and eventually all becomes state enforced because "tourism is so good foe the economy".
while prices us out of literally everything and restricts us from what used to be our public space.
But it always could be worse, you could be Portugal.
@@ghfudrs93uuu i heard this is what happened to venice
You’d need more than a couple isolated examples to establish systemic issues at play…
The minute you mentioned that violence was leveraged to produce value for one side, the situation became decidedly very simple (it’s unacceptably unethical). If you are of the ilk that thinks the government ought be “forcing changes” at gunpoint on society, you are going to be very confused by the ‘complexity’ of just about everything in the world until you snap out of it.
I guess the thesis of this video is that there are no solutions, only tradeoffs.
There are in fact 2 solutions. End mass immigration and get rid of property taxes. Mass immigration pushes prices up, property taxes increase as the property value does, and the people in the community are forced out as they can’t afford the higher property taxes.
That’s life in a nutshell.
The thesis is really that leftists are hypocrites. They have no reasonable basis for their beliefs, and they rely entirely on louder Allies to justify their own actions to the the mob.
And that the heart of the leftist priority set really is self-interest, no matter what they tell you.
There is - deport all of them. We use synthetic fabric now.
I love how gentrification by yuppies are seen as negative but the opposite of that coin is ignored
What is a 'yuppy'?
@@an-animal-lover From google: a young person with a well-paid job and a fashionable lifestyle.
"stereotypical 1980s yuppies obsessed with material objects and financial success"
@@darwinxavier3516 thank you
I hope crumb tubers watch this and post dog shit reaction videos so I can laugh at it on Sitch and Adam
The racism flowchart being like an 8 lane one-way highway to racism is pretty funny
it’s almost like progressivism is inherently stupid, huh?
no but it's hard to be liberal and progressive. kinda needs authority @@mkv2718
All that matters is if the progs hate you. They set this up from the start knowing that, and give excuses to anyone they like.
Double binds are a very common tactic among narcissists. You are damned if you do and you are damned if you don't.
All they really care about in the end is getting the pleasure of bullying others.
@@mkv2718 Yea I mean why would you ever waste time caring what people think about you if they have this original sin thing going on. I`ll be grilling.
On the Philly NIMBY bit, gentrification isn't anywhere near as hot of an issue in most of Philly as it is in other major cities, for one major reason: Philadelphia has the highest rate of homeownership of any major city. Gentrification is only an effective rallying cry in areas where eminent domain was used to seize houses, like the area around Temple University. In other areas the poor black residents get a massive payday to leave, and happily do so. In other cities with a higher portion of poor residents renting apartments instead of owning homes is easier to do community organizing on the issue of gentrification since the poor residents don't leave by choice and get paid for doing so but they instead get pushed out by higher rents they can't afford.
Philly is unique among major American cities in a lot of ways, both good and bad, and a lot of college progressives that move to the city don't understand why their generic prog taking points and worldviews don't work with the locals, gentrification being one of many examples. There is a lot of amusing infighting between the homegrown lefties and the university transplants.
Imagine blaming an accident on the guy who sold you the car. My god... this is what this sounds like
In some gentrification can be a good thing like cleaning up some bad parts of neighborhoods but in others it can ruin it. In places like NYC a lot of neighborhoods of all races were changed to the point they are now super expensive to live in and void of any culture or identity
interesting funfact in many cases the comic books of old were made with origin stories based on neighborhoods from nyc or other big cities. Thanks to gentrification thier origin stories no longer make direct sense because of how the neighborhoods changed.
yeah, it's complicated. My dad grew up watching our neighbourhood become the red light district and I grew up watching it become crack city.
I dream of the day I'll be able to buy up all those houses and make *something* out of that place.
@@ghfudrs93uuuBut imagine what you’ll be doing to the poor kids who grew up knowing and loving nothing but ‘crack city’.
I'd like to believe Scott Adams is somewhere watching this video, laughing.
whyty: does a thing
IDpol : REEEEEEEEE
Discussing the block party: those hipsters bought the houses, not the street. They don't get to close roads, regardless of how long they have or have not been there.
There is definitely a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" aspect to chameleon prog politics. All part of the destabilization phase, my man
_"If the rich people leave the neighborhood, the quality of schools go down."_
Incorrect. If the rich people leave the neighborhood, the FUNDING of the school goes down. There is no direct causal relationship between the school's funding and the school's outcomes, until such a point that the school is so underfunded it can't fulfill its basic functions. In practice, this never happens.
The reason schools in bad areas tend to underperform is NOT because the teacher's union isn't getting a big enough kickback. It's because those school's are populated by the children of the poor and uneducated, and the culture doesn't value education overall.
Those poor/uneducated parents who DO value education tend to put their kids in other schools, with other kids whose parents care about education.
Who wouldn't want a nuclear power plant in their back yard?
With new micro reactors you too can have a power plant literally in your back yard.
Gotta boil that water somehow!
Safer than living next to a coal power plant.
@@OniGanon Safer than living in a blk neighborhood
@@OniGanonyep, nuclear is way way way better than almost any heavy industrial alternative.
Urban planner here to inform y'all that if most black people actually performed regular upkeep on their homes/communities then Community Redevelopment Areas (CRAs) wouldn't be created to reduce blight and bring in new economic development (which is what creates "gentrification").
People are building things in these “up and coming” Chicago neighborhoods and us construction workers have to worry about getting robbed like we did something wrong.
They are also doing this in my town. Town of 18k hours away from any burbs or cities, now we have gay parade day and yes they are slowly making our property taxes much higher. They are also incredibly stupid and keep getting hurt on all of our coolest trails. Ones I get a fine on if I go to.
This is a side effect of the very bad direction we are headed in culturally.
People try to be nice, then we end up not being able to have nice things
I live in a tourist town, and it's been through this. I HATE it. Used to be old italians, blue collar miners, loggers, and farmers/ranchers.
Now it is all cyclists and skiers. Rich people. The leisure class. They 100% are "appropriating" our culture. 100% it does not benefit anyone at all who used to be here. Only way to get ahead is to sell your house and leave.
Even the "closing the street" thing like in this video has happened. Bike races routinely close access to what used to be my place of business. I try and take my truck to work, and yuppies on bikes are yelling at me.
NIMBY isn’t exclusively a Leftist term, Dev. Right leaning people can use it to criticize people using the state to intervene in the economy. Propping their property values above what a free market would allow.
I'd call people who live in places of high value where immigrants can't move too who are totally fine with open borders as being NIMBYs too.
Time and time again we see how, for example, the upper class is fine with BLM and supports them until that protest and the fallout of it is in their backyards.
Also, the Vineyard.
The classic NIMBYist: Martha's Vineyard.
People simply don't want to live amongst squalor and crime
Is there like reverse gentrification?
I used to live in mostly Hispanic areas. A while ago my family said “fuck it, let’s spend more in rent, let’s live in a nice are”.
Now I live in a white neighborhood, last year another Hispanic family loved into the neighborhood. Now we have 4 Hispanic family’s renting homes in this nice area.
Cultural enrichment?
I agree with @@SlurMaster9000
i think gentrification goes both ways and is still just gentrification at the end of the day.
@@NoahGooderis it gentrification if it’s already a nice area?
@@forsociopoliticalstuff2629 if it induces a observable change in the area then yes.
Honestly, I'm increasingly convinced people just irrationally hate change or are jealous of others. I bought a house less then 500m from my Dad's house (the house I grew up and spent 20 years of my life in), so close i can see the roof of his house from the roof of my house. But yet was accused by a family down the street (as i was moving in) of gentrifying my own neighborhood only to find out from my next door neighbor that that very same family had only moved in 2 months prior, were renting their home and weren't even originally from my city.
I'm watching this video and I can't help but think "Damn, this reminds me of the beginning of Gran Torino..."
Dev: "It's like that one scene from Gran Torino-"
Such a good movie.
@@mathewscarff6428 indeed. One of the last new movies I got to watch with my dad before he passed away. This and second hand lions, and because of that they have a special place and clarity to me.
The proliferation of online community is at least in part responsible for the degredation in real life communities we are seeing all across the U.S. today.
In the past, young, working-age adults staked their livelihoods and personal identity first and foremostly to their local community, i.e. their family, their home towns & businesses, and their neighbors. This created the material and cultural conditions for their children to flourish and eventually succeed their parents in the responsibilities of maintaining that local community.
This current generation of young, working-age adults are increasingly abandoning their hometowns and are coming into the inner cities en masse, and some are even causing antifa-style havoc to these local communities on behalf of terminally online ideological causes.
Interesting point. I wonder if we will see online communities actually deciding to coalesce into living near each other in meat space. Or will they continue to accept online interaction and rare meetups as proxies for in-person socialization?
Racetracks have also fallen victim to gentrification. A bunch of Karens or large country clubs move into the area as it becomes a popular location when races happen but then get upset at the noise levels and want to shut it down. Then when it does happen people have no place to race safely and then what do the car guys do take racing to the streets and then those same karens get surprised as to why there are so many street racers.
I don't get gentrification from a _community living_ perspective, maybe it's just me but most folk I know don't care about that when searching for a place to live. The two main factors are if they can afford the place and what *personal* benefits it gives them (being close to their work for a short commute, if there's a supermarket nearby to get groceries faster, school for the kids if they have them, etc.) they only care about the communal aspect if it's an area with a bad rep, otherwise they are not looking to spend time with neighbors or take part in any communal activity. They just want to be left to their own devices.
I live in an apartment complex and the only meaningful interactions I have with my neighbors is when stuff happens that affect the _Quality of life_ of it like if an elevator breaks down or the power goes out and affects everyone, then we all discuss how to fix stuff like that but outside that I don't really care and they also don't.
Also wasn't one of the key points of progressives for all folk to get along independently of race? because they seem to be in favor of segregation which means they are so far up their on ass they went full circle to pre Martin Luther King moral values.
Putting aside the race, culture, and community aspects entirely: I've been getting screwed over by this for over a decade now. I'm white, poor, born in what's either a small city or a large town depending on who you ask. It's developers buying out properties and raising the rents, property values inflating and raising the rents, landlords selling houses you're renting, etc. Most people I know who are in my general class of wealth here either end up homeless, flee entirely, or (like me) get chased around the town as we scrounge to what few places remain even somewhat close to affordable before the international buyers swoop in to make more luxury condos or $1mil+ detached house suburbs. It's BS and I'd have already been forced out of my hometown by now if I had the money to leave and didn't have family responsibilities that trap me here.
Straight up, you
Need to say no. It’s entirely your own fault if you refuse to acknowledge the issues are partly your fault. You didn’t leave when the situation got ridiculous.
@@Xplora213 That was not possible with my situation.
@@Randomeaninglessword Don't worry, I face the same issue... unprepared to leave because of the kids. But... I'm still capable of leaving if I must...
"Once predominately black part of New York City"
All of New York City was historically predominately white so...
It was also originally majority Dutch. So, all you anglos out there...
I remember reading a lot about this and in most cases, the path by which it happens is the same.
The locals don’t look after an area
Crime goes up
Buildings end up vacant
Artists rent big empty spaces
Artists generally suck with money so the sort of fancy businesses that prey on them move in
Other wealthy types want to live there because of the artsy coolness and interesting coffee culture stuff
They fix up where they live because of a lower tolerance for squalor
Property values rise so the police come back
Rents shoot up
Artists move to next area and the parasite businesses are replaced with even fancier but less stupid ones
Locals can’t afford to remain and move out.
In Europe we have twin pressures in that every government thinks that having art centres in an area will turn the residents into artists and make life nicer for them; it just attracts bohemians and kicks off the process described above. On the other side, they keep dumping Muslims into these areas, which stops the influx improving the area but still drives the locals out.
The other vector that used to be common is that certain ethnicities would take over a street and others would move out because they were terrible neighbours, leading to rolling migrations across cities over dozens of years. You don’t tend to see it now except with Muslims because it tends to need a temple to rotate around. That’s not so much gentrification as colonisation (usually) because ethnic enclaves are usually not very clean areas (and in my experience, Chinatowns and little vietnams are just as messy as any flavour of Middle East or Indian enclave). There were massive yuppie migrations in the 80s though. Kinda stymied by the “low income” housing everywhere insists on now, which usually translates to a problem neighbour.
Local taxes do not determine the QUALITY of local schools. Schools 100 years ago had far less money and functioned better. Money doesn't make good schools and less money doesn't make bad ones.
I'm guessing here but the issue might be that certain school districts get used to a level of funding and when that drops quickly they don't know how to cope. Whereas in the old day they had a more stable funding level. That's not taking into account how much our use of tech may have raised the base levels of funding necessary to run a decent school
Low population density played a big role; less kids, less money to invest in schools. I have read in rural areas that one classroom was all the community needed to teach all the kids in the town, from 5 year olds all the way up to 17 year olds, and all they needed was learn to write, read, and how to do simple maths.
@@DrDaveDavingtonthe usa for a long time didn’t have public schools. schools in the usa use to be charity and none profit schools (on top of private schools)
It determines the funding. And there's some correlation between funding and quality.
EDIT: Yes I know that bad households suck for school no matter how many dollars you throw at them.
@@DrDaveDavington The issue he's talking about is local property taxes being used to fund schools. It isn't a stability issue.
The funny thing about the black guy complaining about white progressives gentrifying his neighbourhood is that black communities moved in to a lot of white minority neighbourhoods (especially Italian), and they didn't improve these neighbourhoods when they did...
Harlem was a Upperclass neighborhood, then the Africans moved in.
I think what dev forgets is that just because someone owns property in a neighborhood doesn't mean that they live there or that they're a community member. And many who live in a neighborhood don't own property there. If my landlord raises the rent, there's not much I can do but move out. And thats not my choice.
But this is why you are incentivised to work hard to stay there
Nor should it be.
Part of the issue is what we see in Central Florida. People who have owned their homes since say the 50s to 80s pass away, realtors then jack the price of the home an insane amount (500k for a 2-2 is not an uncommon sight here) and the only ones who can afford it are the New York and California progs whose states have higher salaries to coincide with their higher tax rates,w hike our salaries coincide with our lower tax rates and (up until now) lower cost of living. It also plays on their hypocrisy because they swear Florida is A Handmaiden’s Tale yet they are making us the fastest growing state by far.
I get feeling alienated in your own community, but going up to newbies with your phone and getting in their face about being a stranger is no way to go about rebuilding what's lost. If anything, he should maybe introduce some of the traditions his old community did that he'd like to see come back. Stuff like that.
The old traditions were unkept homes, crime, blight, and grown men loitering around.
He's just some bitter crank. He doesn't have to move if he doesn't want. He is living in a home that he doesn't even have a mortgage for!
my assumption at least is that we are way pass that when they start closing the streets
You're absolutely right about the people owning property and selling it to leave the area. I think the more compelling argument against being gentrified out however are for people who rent their homes, which is basically everybody born without parents who have one to begin with to inherit one from. I myself being in this catagory am painfully aware that it's not a lack of financial competancy preventing me from being able to afford to buy a home. I don't smoke (including weed), I don't drink, I don't go clubbing, I don't waste my money on e-thots or real-thots, I live a very modest lifestyle, but still the price of homes goes up faster than I can possibly save.
That said I lived across the street from Science World in Vancouver for 24 years, but eventually had to get out of Vancouver into Richmond due to prices increasing in rent. I didn't really think this was gentrification though, just natural inflation and landlords selling out to international investors. It was funny though because while this was happening all the local newspapers were belly-aching about the 'black community' in the georgia viaduct area being pushed out due to 'gentrification'. I lived right on National and Quebec street (just as it turns into expo blvd), literally a ONE minute walk from the Georgia viaduct, and I could go MONTHS without ever seeing a single black person (not just after they started complaining, but from the start of those 24 years, right to the end). It was complete bullcrap there was a 'black community' there at all, I dunno wtf those professional race grifters were smoking. This all started too before Trump so it wasn't like the race grifting crap was in full swing yet. They were still trying to hide behind a mask at that point.
Oh yeah, I also had dogs I had to walk 4 times a day for about 20 out of those 24 years, and I took the bus to work and such. It's not like I was a NEET indoors who was unable to see black people, I was regularly out, they just weren't there.
A community of renters is no community- simple as.
The take-away i get from this whole video is that both Gentrification and Flight/communal dissolution are both symptoms of the greater problem regarding the Death of The Village and the loss and dissolution of tight-knight communities and communal thinking in the face of modern social structures.
That, and its also a consequence of property taxes and bad school districting polocies that shouldve been done away with decades ago.
Two things to commen on.
1: At least in two long running studies using medical records to track the movement of members of a gentrified community, there was no exceptional uptick in people leaving the neighborhood. Some of the original habitants did leave, but at the same rate they were before gentrification. What changed was the type of people moving in and the rate they moved in, which seems to indicate that the original population didnt face increased pressure to leave from higher prices. The character of the community argument still remains, however.
2: I think a court case a decade or so ago changed school funding to be determined state wide, rather than county wide.
Gentrification is only "great" if you're one of those hipster yuppies.
8:10 was one of the most unintentionally hilarious things ive ever seen. Looks like the activists are angrily screaming into the megaphone at a bunch of cats just chilling around 😂
Here's another consideration: what if those who grew up in a community could not find housing in said neighborhood? Should they live in their parent's basement? What if their parents moved out of that community and they no longer can live there or afford to find housing in that location?
Capitalism owes you nothing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm not saying it's right, but the only reason this didn't happen more in the past 100 years is because the economy and population was growing in such a way that neighborhoods could remain fairly stable demographically, without massive shifts to reflect massive shifts in the economy. That's over, and now massive shifts in the economy will be reflected in existing neighborhoods, instead of just changing the character of the neighborhoods popping up on the urban periphery.
Part of becoming an adult is leaving your parent’s home and taking on those decisions and responsibilities. If your home is big $$$ then you have to accept that the job to pay for it is part of the sacrifice. No questions.
I feel there is a bit of a runaway affect to this. The more of your neighbors sell their property the more the community changes economically and socially and the more you are disincentivized from remaining in the community yourself.
This idea that everyone should consider the lives and opinions of everyone nearby, before buying property, is pure insanity. That said, what I do see as selfish and evil is people (like Californians) rushing to buy up proprrty in small towns, then force "growth" on these small towns that can't handle growth.
My wife and I worked hard to buy a house in my home town. When we bought the property, the population was a somewhat humble 15k. In the past few years, things have gotten so bad that we're now approaching 100k but infrastructure has not (and cannot) be updated ti fit the people. Now every neighborhood is flooded with hundreds of speeding cars trying to bypass the ridiculously packed main road.
Sounds like a leftist problem.
6:30
YUUUUUUUP, THERE IT IS, I WAS COOKIN' THAT UP SINCE THE VIDEO STARTED.
Hi! We're your new neighbors, and--
"NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T MOVE HERE, THAT'S GENTRIFICATION!"
Uh, okay... Guess we'll...go somewhere else, then--
"NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T LEAVE, THAT'S WHITE FLIGHT!"
Honestly. I don't particularly care about gentrification, at least not yet (no house or land taxes) but i do care about the social aspect of this occurance. The Black guy and that white girl, while that guy is definitely Amped, he is just taking live note of the people that are A. Blocking the roads for a illegal block party for police.
B. Also seemingly never even talked to this guy? Didn't even *see* him outside? He could be just further out on the edge of the streets or moves in different circles, but they obviously haven't even waved at him on the way up the streets.
You don't know all your neighbors for sure, but i don't think this guy would be this angry if both of them actually spoke at least 3 or 4 times.
women should not be isolated from the consequences of their actions.
I agree but they can literally die from FAFO incidents. They aren’t strong and independent compared to male fists.
@@Xplora213That's just natural selection
I have a theory. It's not something I've examined too deeply, more a gut feeling. Most of the people who are saying these "NINBY bad and YIMBY bad" seem to want all the advantages of empire, but not the downsides. Or maybe just the NIMBY. Semi-free cash, affordable houses, low cost goods, and not a lot of hard work.
I take issue with Boomer NIMBY because they voted for a bunch of leftist policies that inflated government power and funding, then turned around and said "but you can't build it here" which quagmired the whole system and created a ton of expensive red tape. It wasn't all power plants and prisons. People were voting for halfway houses, rehab clinics, zoning restrictions, and so much more.
The cat cafe protest happened in Austin, TX, and it was in the historical Black area of the city which, ironically, progressive hipsters had moved in and gentrified. It was the Blue Cat Cafe in East Austin. Really easy to look at Google Maps street view and see newly built houses next door to older houses.
This was a fantastic video essay. Thank you.
2:04 Hope you talk about gentrification in other corners of the world, for example how ru tourists move into SEA(South East Asian) countries and gentrify areas, literally making "whites only" spaces in predominantly South East Asian nations, scary af tbf
Oh the horror of wealthy and law-abiding citizens flowing into your country.
“Bbut what if they form segregated communities and don’t immediately integrate in a single generation?!” Tradeoffs.
“A cat cafe is one of the most hipster things in the world.”
Dev as a weeb you should know that cat cafes are a Japanese thing and the point is for non pet owners to come visit the cats while they enjoy the cafe space.
It's not like cats only exist in Japan could easily be like how every culture (most) has a rice dish
@@Timmy-mi2ef
Got no clue what this comment is supposed to be. Are you saying most cultures have cats therefore cat cafes aren’t Japanese?
They are, though. They started in Japan and have been culturally exported.
Gentrification leads to the Karenization of black men.
Your videos are genuinely some if the most interesting and informative stuff on youtube dawg
Gentrification can be a force for good if used properly, especially in a homeowners environment instead of a renters. New people come in and develop a rotting part of town. Current residents get to sell their property at a price that lets them move into a higher value neighborhood, and when affluent folks eventually leave the area is in better shape for lower income people to use.
Of course it doesn't go to plan all the time. My city is the king of white flight, and rather than gentrifying, folks just develop some wilderness or farm town to be the new rich people neighborhood for 20 years, and then book it as soon as the poor people show up, leaving a long line of decaying, uncared for infrastructure. Very unfortunate.
20 years is long enough for fresh homes to no longer be fresh. You are simply seeing a bad attitude to older homes. Poor people can’t move in unless no one ever invested in improving their home and maintaining to a high standard. This will always look bad in high development areaa with population growth.
Stop voting for justin trudeau
Dev seems to be arguing for doing nothing to prevent community disintegration. And then he watches his ticktocks and wonders why people have no Shame 😂
I watch your vids all the time but rarely comment. This wass a great vid. Dense and well paced, just the right amount of context. You p good at this bro
Will the Devonetized channel come back?
wait its gone?
It wasn't his, so probably not.
@@latviandragon2718 Yes, for like over a week. At least i can't find it anymore.
Oh yea no its gone. Makes sense. He used all the non-ad-friendly words on that one
I miss the chop zone video.
Gentrification is the Invisible Hand that separates low value people from high value real estate.
Good video with several solid points made. Food for thought.
Its ok when they get pissed but not us 🤷
Let the city folk fight amongst themselves
I spent most of this video laughing at the misfortunes of leftists caused by other leftists. When you push ideological BS, eventually it comes back to bite you in the ass
Funny thing with that first video is, if the people making that party had just given everyone a heads up, the guy making the video probably wouldn't have been mad.
It’s a good long term thing, not very good short term. Unfortunately, or fortunately depending on your stance and position.