After The Revolution
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It seems like a lot of communist/socialist rhetoric basically can be summed up as:'why can't human beings be just like colony insects... except me'
Funny that those insects might actually "willingly" face the wall and get shot.
Communism promoters are people who just want a king or a God to solve their problems perfectly. Most communists don't actually want communism
@@afuzzycreature8387 More like creatures who fancy themselves god.
@@wrongthinker843 "When you see an ant, do you stop to consider it a fool? Of course not! An ant is so beneath you that to even acknowledge its existence would be a waste of your time."
I think it's just that Communists/Socialists are completely self centered. They might talk about 'the collective' and 'the proletariat' but they basically just want to do whatever the hell they want in their deluded vision of an earthly paradise.
Never ask
A woman: her age
A man: his salary
A communist: the title of Karl Marx's 1844 essay about jews
Funny when I look Karl Marx jews on yt, nothing comes up after you enter the J. Hmmm
The most wonderful thing about Jews is that they're always smarter than everyone else, so it's so easy to actually ascribe antisemitism to feelings of inferiority. Communism is the ideology of the mediocre person who will never excel when held up to be contrasted to another. It's quite interesting that historically and even today so many Jews were commies, it probably actually says something "nice" about their moral character, the desire to provide for every last person...
but, ah, don't they understand that *Communism is the ideology of resentment?* We know where this leads.
Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Chapter 29
narrated by JBP & animated by 1791L ua-cam.com/video/7ub0TCJxwwY/v-deo.html
das a good vid
Never ask
The Kavernacle: Japanese anime fans
Vaush: Content creators
Jim Sterling: Gamers
Laura K. Buzz: Gender
Same for far rights when they blame jews for him
@@urbanfrog ua-cam.com/video/oIeYoF1VhHc/v-deo.html
When you're a college communist after the revolution:
"This wall sure is pretty"
big kek
"There's some red stains on it"
"Why this wall has so many bullet holes and ketchup stains?"
during the chinese cultural revolution all students were sent to dig trenches and work hard manual labour on agriculure for a few years in the middle of nowhere.
@@j.2512 Huh, maybe Mao wasn't ALL bad...
“Sorry comrade, we’ve already met our quota for tarot card readers. Luckily for you, we still have several positions open in the sulfur mines.”
Hahaha, you don't need to be in the suffer mine comrad, now please face the wall
Hey sulfur's essential man!
My hungry ass couldn't be a sulfur miner.
Imagine having any quota for tarot card readers in a materialistic philosophy
They wouldn’t allow any spiritual stuff so my guess is the wall
Not really the same type of revolution, but I took a Latin American history course at university and 99% of the history was:
1. country is tyrannical
2. movement to rebel and institute more freedoms and less tyranny
3. revolution successes
4. new government is at least as tyrannical and bad as the old one
5. return to step one
Yes, and thats exactly how it works. People think they are much more competent than they really are. Especially the ones who believe in communism. They think bringing down whole society will have zero consequences and things will just work like they used to do. Obviously it doesnt work like that...
they are usually more tirannycal lol. In my country there's a celebration of the fall of the dictatorship and staart of the democracy but the fact is in just two years the "democratic" government had already killed or imprisoned like 10 times the people the previous military junta killed in 10 years!
That's exactly what I think when I see comments on UA-cam talking about America choosing the "French approach" or some shit like that to fix the country. They clearly never learned what state France was in after 1789 (hint: very close to the USSR but more dysfunctional).
EDIT: I'm a doofus, I typed "1989" by mistake.
yeah revolutions are extremely hard, because even if the ideals are honorable theres no guarantee that human greed will not destroy those ideals.
@@f145hr3831jr it even included "G-side music tracks" being done to entire towns and burning of churches! viva la revolution indeed.
My favorite quote tweet was something along the lines of:
"I'll be on my farm raising children, growing the fruits of my labors, and writing poetry." Then someone responded to the tweet "Your farm?!?!" GLORIOUS!
“YOUR” farm?!
The pure irony is that they could do that right now.
@@jemm113 only if they know how to run a productive enterprise
That's like the literal definition of a kulak.
Your Labour?!!?!
"...and a herdsman in the evening"
Cool, now all your animals are dead because they need to be put to pasture first thing AM and be watched all day. You can't "casually" be a pastoralist as an after dinner hobby, it's historically one of the most labor intensive, civilization defining occupations you can have. These people are hilariously out of touch.
They would pass out trying to help a ewe give birth and the little lamb might not make it out.
Exactly! A friend of mine lives in Namibia and the work she and her family do -- all day, every day -- is much more labor-intensive than the average "social justice warrior" does all year.
Maybe he meant working in shifts. Still dumb though.
@@vane909090 But shifts would require responsibility since someone would need to work in the morning and someone else in the afternoon and so on. What if no one wants to do the job in the morning? Requiring a shift would break their entire philosophy. At some point they would be forcing someone to do work they did not want to do, or at least for them to do it when they do not want to do it. That is why these systems break down into forced labor 100% of the time because socialism/communism is basically just feudalism with new words from the standpoint of 'how do I convince people to make me the Lord?'
@@karatos well no, 'feudalism' was at least legally (if not practically) a volunteer based system. feudalism is just contract labour, paying for rent and protection via taxes and tithes paid in money or labour. legally you could leave but you would lose the house and protection, but you would be a freeman. and even this contract labour was actually an extremely limited amount of work compaired to a communist system. an average only 2-3 days a week were for your feudal lord if you were a serf (less in winter time, more in harvest time/etc), franklins (a different contract to serfs) only had to do 40 days a year of work for their feudal lord. freemen obviously didn't have any work obligation.
communism is closer to slavery than feudalism.
These people have the choice to do these things NOW. They can LITERALLY be farmers and psychiatrists etc, but they'd rather be online complaining.
"We can't actually do anything to help our communities until after the Revoltuion."
- Some Communist
They want someone to take the choice away from them because the blank canvas is too intimidating.
@@kielbasamage Some people are servile by nature, it's a shame but not a reality we can change
I am 100% sure anyone that says they want to be a farmer after the revolution, has no idea what farming actually entails and would actually really hate it.
@@greywolf0819 “It’s just like Stardew Valley, right?”
They NEVER have an end game or any plan whatsoever. They all just want a position in power and never want to be the guy forced to bake 2000 loafs of bread every week.
Not a glorious job, but a job everyone respects. Especially when you get good at it, but otherwise, you already sustain so many people with bread, what is wrong with that? I never get the illusion of "it's better because it's different than this", but you get a say here. You can negotiate, change, do anything BUT what the power in control forces you to do. How is that better? They think they can just go fishing every so often in the week to sustain themselves? You don't even know a thing about fishing or growing crops and you think because it's communism that every problem will go away? You think healthcare finances itself in Europe? That oil comes for free in your car? How delusional is that...
Commies don't know how to, well, anything.
I want to be the guy who makes the bread. knowing communism though my ass is gonna be carrying metal in a factory or some shit.
@@PvtFlowers Half starved farmer who has to go back to oxen because the state underestimated how many tractors they needed and half of those they had were stolen by the bureaucrats.
@@PvtFlowers baking bread sounds actually nice but i doubt you will even get proper supply of flour to make anything
"There must be some mistake, comrade. I was planning on being a trans awareness raiser for the cause!"
"WHO TOLD YOU TO STOP, CYKA! GO BACK TO PLOW THE FIELD, BLYAT!"
Товарищ (товарищеса?), я тебя выслушал, а теперь встань к стенке.
Hy blyat cyka! Back to the uranium mines!
And you have done good job we are very aware of who to liquidate first, Comrade.
Shut up and face the wall Comrade
it's absolutely stunning that the people who are so desperate to be their own special brand of whatever are also anti-individualist. The doublethink is intense
Woah, I found your channel again!
They simply failed to be successful
Yet they claim to be antifascist despite propping up a "new human" philosophy. These people are so damn lost.
Well I think it's because they want to force you to watch and admire their uniqueness. They wand to be individuals, they just want you to be collectivists.
It’s not that contradictory when you realize how real world hives are constructed within the animal kingdom. See, the “royal caste” (particularly queen) inherently gets a significant amount of individuality, through autocratic expression. It’s all the drones below them that are expected to fall in line with that singular expression of the “core mind”. It’s simply that these dumb drones to be are actually delusional enough to believe they’ll fall into that “royal caste” within the coming human hive.
My position after a successful Communist revolution would be:
Mass Grave Occupant.
Better dead than red.
Anti communist guerilla fighter
The best quote tweet was "what's your role after communist revolution?" "Landlord."
Some of them though will unironically admit they don't want to destroy the institutions, they want to upend them and be on top.
@@kriegjaeger Or just let everything collapse.
@@kriegjaeger That's literally what CHAZ/CHOP was.
@@kriegjaeger cryptobros and gme-pumpers in a nutshell
I am going be an artist. This wall is my canvas. This rifle is my brush. Your blood shall be my paint. Behold! I am about to create a masterpiece.
Beautiful!
Don't forget to get your uniform from Hugo Boss.
imagine Bob Ross with a red star beret and an ak-47 in front of a college student facing the wall calmly going "This is our canvas comrade and we can do with it whatever we like, no mistakes, just happy little accidents"
Stefano valatine be like
To repeat myself:
It's all in their big slogan "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."
Everyone concentrates on the handouts in the second part, but overlooks the enslavement in the first. "To his ability". Not his desire. Not his ambition. Ability.
And someone else, central government, will decide which ability.
This is the more transparent way to describe oligarchies, not a description of a system fit to solve everyone's problems and I'm afraid every system has been corrupted by someone when in practice because it'll eventually trickle up to the folks in charge who "need" stuff instead of the people who make society possible.
The two combined are even worse. Everyone does their absolute best, and only gets what is necessary for them to survive. Definition of slavery
EXACTLY. And the leaders of the "commune" decide what your "ability" is.
What if his ability if his ambition and desire? ( No, im not a communist. Is a genuine question)
Ah yes "the revolution". After a revolution it's mainly suffering and despair. Very few revolutions succeed and very few end up with good results.
And the ones that do end up just as good as if there wasn't one. (Look at the USA - the main difference if that revolution was overthrown ia that there would be knights.)
Its funniest (read: most horrifying) when they start invoking the french revolutions and guillotines(sp?). like did you read past the first page lmao
@@BlastinRope yeah, no one ever talks about the Jacobin terror or the weird fanatical "church of reason", they just go "french revolution good , muh bread" . There was a very real reason Napoleon came to be an Emperor and why everyone prefered a new monarch than whatever the revolution was offering.
It could if it were planned out, and the leaders werent corrupt. Even then the aftermath would lead to some sort of suffering. Even then if they thought ahead of time. It should be over quickly
The first leftist government was what happened after the French Revolution. Let's not forget what that period was called. The reign of...? Come on. You guys can complete it, right?
“No you don’t understand I wanted to be a coal miner”
“START WRITING POETRY”
My great grandfather was a coal miner. Started working the mines at age 6. Today’s youth are soft.
@@UNDERDOG18UNDERDOG18the kids yearn for the mine craft.
I was looking forward to being a coal miner after the revolution, but instead they handed me a PC and webcam and told me to start streaming on Twitch.
This is not what I signed up for!
The state has deemed that you shall be a v-tuber. Resistance is futile.
Your role will be state imposed thottery, present your scantily clad form for the unwilling audience or face the wall.
Take the estrogen pills comrade
Put on the maid outfit for the glory of the people comrade
I don't want to push up daisies but that's the job I've been allocated......
This has the same energy as "I wanna be a paladin when the LARP gets organized"
@Trash Person laughs in Blackguard
I’ll be the black mage
@@glorioustigereye You can be whatever race you want
@@adrenjones9301 I dub thee King of the Nitpickers, may your reign be long and fruitful sire.
@@adrenjones9301 I'm sorry I offended fictional characters who occupy the same profession but have different moral positions, I truly hope they'll forgive my grave offense
There's nothing stopping these people from pooling their money together, buying a large chunk of land in the middle of nowhere, and starting a commune. As long as you pay property taxes and don't do anything to attract attention to yourselves, government won't care. But most of these people don't possess any skills. In fact, this is why so many communist revolutions ended in humanitarian disasters. These people weren't lined up against the wall. Not at first anyway. They were sent out to manage communal farms. They had all the people who actually knew about farming rounded up and killed or imprisoned. Then they tried doing it there way, and it resulted in mass famines in the USSR and PRC.
I agree! Though we must also address the common counter-argument: "I don't want to save myself, I want to save **everyone!**"
That counter argument is foolhardy at best. While I understand that Marx himself acknowledged that a single nation being non-communist will cause communism to fail (as communism cannot out-compete any other ideology even if it works 'correctly'), we must also understand that people will flock to a banner that holds high and fast.
Your ideology is the only correct option? **Prove it.** Do your due diligence and prove it to the world! If their ideology and skills are as bulletproof as they claim then it will work, or it will fail. No outside assistance or intervention is needed.
The biggest problem with Marxism is that Marx never thought of a back-up plan in case the entire world didn't get up and revolt as soon as his book was published. His obsession with globalism was short-sighted at best; though I suppose that's what happens when your movement is founded by a college dropout, drunkard, and social moth rather than a scholar.
@@aeldariambitions6334 I suppose the backup plan was fascism. If we can’t figure out how to farm or produce, then we the government will just make sure the farmers and factories are in our pocket.
There have been communal communes before; the country I live in had many which lasted generations. The issues with them is they pretty much always end up with a much lower standard of living, are less profitable, and anyone who wants to leave can only take the clothes on your back.
@@aeldariambitions6334Great comment.
As someone who lives in postcommunist country for 31 years of my life (Poland to be specific) I know that the choice based labour presented in the German Ideology (hunter in the morning etc.) is horseshit. In communist country like People Republic of Poland, you're glued to the type of labour you choose in an apprenticeship degree (in Poland it is type of high school focused on learning skills in particular type of labour like miner, electrician, farmer etc. called "Zawodówka") in the age of 16. If you're electrician, you're gonna be electrician until you die. To this day in my country we have unprofitable coal mines, subsidiared by goverment, only because there are to many well organized miners who need to work somewhere and are unwilling to change type of work.
By what are you referring to by "the German"
And I'm just gonna guess that moving up in the organization involved much more than just skill and interest.
I'm also gonna mention that for decades even evil McDonald's had/has programs to help with employee edumacation for anyone who had competence and desire to move upwards in the company. Not sure these days but was true last I checked.
Walmart was another who had the same positive corporate initiative in past times.
@@MALICEM12 Engles, Hegel, Marx, I dunno🤷♂️.
Of course France more to blame but nobody does their homewerk.
@@badlaamaurukehu that and Marx was a Jew so it's hard to pin a nation for an outsider's ideal that reflected his different people's look on things.
If an American went to Poland with a bunch of other Americans. And he had a son who grew up alongside the other Americans and had an American view of the world and then created a political theory; would it be a Polish or American ideal?
Most Germans didn't care for Marxism and there was a reason it didn't take off and Marx eventually left to try somewhere else. So simply calling it a "German ideal" doesn't seem accurate, but I notice the eastern Europeans have a tendency to do so. I think it's more born out of anti-german/ anti-western sentiment than anything.
@@badlaamaurukehu In communist and postcommunist countries there are two ways to move upwards on the socioeconomic ladder. Firstly, membership in the Party, even if you are apolitcal, is necessary to become f.e. foreman in a building crew. Secondly, nepotism and inheritance of social posistion. So children of actors become actors, children of managers become managers etc. You can see it up to this day in many fields, especially showbusiness and govermental areas.
"We're all going to have leisurely jobs"
"There's going to be a great surplus of products"
Pick one.
The choice will be made for them tovarisch.
I mean there was that one guy who was gonna do all that hard work
@@Strawberrymilkdrink: He's going to have be ultra productive.
The saddest part about all of this is even after the revolution, when they're facing that wall, they will not be thinking, "Well fuck. Looks like I was wrong." Instead, it will be, "This isn't real socialism!"
No people no contradictions.
No contradictions = problem solved.
Lee Harvey Oswald defector to the USSR and wanted a prestigious job.
They put him to work in a factory using a lathe.
He came back.
He said he made a lot of Rubles (money) in the Soviet Union, but so did everyone else there, and there was never anything to buy, anyway.
Oswald was an agent of US military intelligence.
Or the CIA wanted us to think offing JFK was the soviets... (only partially joking; we've caught them in more convoluted plans before, and the new docs confirm the CIA was involved somehow.)
Those are odd ways of saying "rock breaker" or "emergency fertilizer" but who am I to judge lol
Sign me up for emergency fertilizer! Oh wait you mean-
Ah yes Communistese in which the phrase, "I'm going to be X" translates in English to, "I'm going to be put against the wall.".
I might have to steal that in case I ever happen to talk with a commie revolutionary. Emergency fertilizer really got me :)
@@herrdoctoroetker *_BLAM_*
well human corpses are shit fertilizer alas
"To hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticize after dinner." - These are the words of a man who clearly has no understanding of anything but criticizing others.
I would love to see the result of Marx doing a day like this, and actually criticizing himself for his waste of time lol.
That sounds like a cartoon setup
He Fudds up the hunt, gets dragged into the water by a massive fish, loses all his cows in a stampede, and then criticizes capitalism for his stupid ideas
“I want to work on logistics for the Red Army and uniform design”- Obese discord mod
The mines it is, then. Welcome to the caves, comrade!
"And I'll issue regular pants, and not cargo-pants, because of the 'own nothing and be happy' thing...I'll have cargo-pants for myself though, I will be a key member of The Party, after all."
Yes chief the red army is totally gonna hire some autist to make some uniforms from them and not just hire the already existing people who’s. Specialisation is just that.
gives a whole new meaning to the term reserves
they will be the emergency food reserves when their crops inevitably fail.
Marxist: "You and I have engaged in an economic transaction, therefore you have a social obligation towards me."
"But clearly I don't need to fulfill that obligation, considering you didn't fulfill yours when you forgot the pickles."
Here's a quote from Peter Capaldi's Doctor that actually fits this well:
"When you have everything exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The troublemakers; what's to stop your glorious revolution from being overthrown by the next?"
and that is why revolutions end up with even more oppresive regimes
Essentially what Calvino said in his book “the invisible cities”
I read this in his voice. Capaldi is a national treasure
Lenin was aware of that... that's why the revolution never really ends. It stalls at dictatorship and any whiff of counter-revolution is met with force.
Being a hunter in the morning, a fisherman in the afternoon, a herder in the evening, and critic after dinner, sounds like a pretty long work day.....
Almost sounds like you'd be working 48 hour workdays every day. But, you know, it's for the revolution or whatever. And if you don't produce any food, there will always be some for you, you hardworking little commie, you.
and a very empty diner plate.
@@juggeist And you won't actually be allowed to be a critic about it.
It's a 38 hour work day
Sounds like something only someone who's never worked a day in their life could say with a straight face
Twitter showed me revolutions need flower arrangers, musicians, and graphic artists to design logos and proper gander more than laborers who can swing a hammer, rewire a lamp, or till the earth
You can always learn, but i cant draw tbh
Hey, there's no revolution without propaganda.
I remember Vee (Romanian guy) telling a story his parents told him about Romania under communism. Police would literally patrol the streets looking for people who were not working and interrogate them on what they were doing. They happened upon a guy who's job was to sing at weddings or other events. They told him that's not a real job and immediately dragged him over to a factory and forced him to work.
This is what will happen to every 2-bit counselor, barista, artist and poet. Either work in artillery munitions factory or go to gulag for being unwilling to work.
Even if you could be an artist. I think it would be one of the most terrifying jobs you could have. Be it painting, music or otherwise. All that needs to happen to put you in the shit is ONE party official thinking your art is against the state or anti socialist or whatever.
@@Eirik_Bloodaxe Not only that, you aren't going to be able to paint what you want; everything you paint is going to be what the government wants painted that day.
@@cp1cupcakethey want the wall painted11!!!1!
I in particular enjoy the moments when a single person volunteers to do manual labor for the commune, but then gets shamed for not being communist enough.
Boxer said he will work harder
@@als3022 He even defeats the pigs in the movie adaptation 🤣
**Snowball's squeals echo in the background**
@@als3022that makes it even more based
Glowie4Kids TV
"What are you gonna do after the revolution?"
"Start another one"
Eternal revolution, of course!
It fascinates me how people just assume they'll be living their dream life after the revolution. Nobody ever thinks they'll end up like the Cuban students, who were forced to do the backbreaking labor of sugar cane harvesting during their summer recess.
The other thing that amazes me is the assumption that there will be plenty of money/economic resources to give everybody everything that they want. There seems to be no real idea of who's going to actually produce all the stuff that all the feminist poets and trans-gender activists are going to need to survive.
@@als3022 I can think of one revolution in particular that turned out pretty well...
They believe scarcity is a myth. But it's a very real reality.
Bcuz comrade we’ll be living in gay luxury space communism.
@@als3022 America turned pretty well...
@@carlsonraywithers3368 The USA is more the outlier then the norm. For every revolution that succeeds and creates a stable long lasting nation there are hundreds or thousands of failed ones.
Tumblr communists when they find out their job in their new socialist utopia will be road building and not graphics design
nah there job will be being road foundation as the whine and get there brains pulped by there "benevolent comrads"
@@wilmagregg3131 "I'm not the useful idiot, they are!"
I feel there's also a sense of aimlessness. They might deep down want to do this but feel there is no way. They want city living but want some rather rural jobs
I don't think people can even understand just how much modernity has destroyed the Human Spirit. These people desperately want meaning in their life and have been duped into thinking Communism will give it to them.
They don't want rural jobs... They're just romanticizing the "simplicity" of pre-modern society. Louisa May Alcott wrote a hilarious satire of this in her story "Transcendental Wild Oats" about a similar romanticism in the Transcendentalist movement of the 19th century. When it comes time to do the actual work, suddenly the simple and romantic life isn't so fun anymore.
@@CoryTheRaven
I might have to look into that.
It’s the Rousseauian civilized savages living in cities essentially.
I believe that these feelings of aimlessness come *directly* from living in tight quarters in cities where there are so many humans, you are *always* essentially *unnecessary.*
Where empathy and respect for boundaries have less value, than the ability to manipulate those around you to reduce your workload or to make gains in a given scenario.
“What’s your role in the new Communist system?”
Anti-communist Guerrilla.
🎩
🐍 no step on snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
Basado.
Where my Contras at?
Mountain bandit.
No step on snek
I was gonna say that.
Well, I was gonna say "Revolutionary. Loyalists in Communism are stool pigeons, so I'll need to change."
“What’s your role in the new Communist system?”
Serial killer with a political focus (I'm sure there will be plenty of commissars who need disappearing as much as the Dear Leader and Co).
“Our great democracies still tend to think that a stupid man is more likely to be honest than a clever man, and our politicians take advantage of this prejudice by pretending to be even more stupid than nature made them.”
― Bertrand Russell,
Can you elucidate on this quote? I’m not sure I understand it’s implications.
So are you saying that politicians act stupid to get people to get along with what they plan? Cause I can totally believe that.(Or have believed for quite a while)
@@justinambru8529 it means they pretend they are not capable of complex corruption and they be caught very quickly if they did bcz people consider them stupid.
@@phunkyzilla that people think politicians are dumb, but honest. When really they are often smart, but deceitful.
Basically, the elite that have ruined our lands didn't do it because they are fucking retarded, they just want you to think that. It's because they are that malicious.
It's not really that great a quote. Of course there are obvious exceptions, but one generally doesn't achieve nationwide political office by being of below average IQ.
Most of times, liberation is followed by 40 years in the desert, not the promised land.
That's a fair comparison to what happens after a revolution. Would they become tyrants as others have done to them or would they adopt a better system.
I was going to reply with a communist parody of a song from Veggitales, but for religious reasons I can't bring myself to be so profane.
Always baffling to hear them somehow think they are well educated and know better, but don't understand that proving you are capable of violent revolution means you are the first target afterwards. In times of peace, war heroes are seen as violent criminals.
This!!!
A hunter, a fisherman, a herdsmen and a critic. Has this person ever met anyone who lives rural? That describes at least half the cattle farmers I know
They unironically despise rural people people. But yeah, I know a lot of rural people who are typically at least 2 of those.
I think it’s really interesting when they talk about “the new human”, because it correlates to an idea that’s been popular among several ideologies- but particularly fascism- called the new man. The fascist conception of the new man is, among other things, one detached from their family and upbringing, that has shorn himself of individualism, discrimination, and class orientation, with a romanticized worldview. Overall, the fascist new man sounds a lot like what the Twitter socialists are and the people they hope to mold or re-educate.
sounds like new era guru shit too.
Where do you think the Fascists got the concept from? It was Marx who laid out the idea to deliberately remake man.
That's because fascism spun out of Marxism in Italy lol. Marx and especially Lenin wrote about how the people would need to be forced to become better. Lenin basically said most people would have to be sent to camps and either killed or successfully reeducated.
It's basically a shitty version of the Nietzschean ubermensch
yeah Homo Socialismus lmao
The Homo Sovieticus was tried, it only achieved alcoholism
There's a reason why they use things like hunter, herdsman, farmer, etc. as their example jobs, because they believe (wrongly, of course) that those are essentially unskilled, "earthy" occupations they can dabble in as they see fit. Saying, "I'll be a brain surgeon in the morning and a diesel engine mechanic in the afternoon" sounds patently stupid, so they avoid the issue.
"I'll be a nuclear physicist in the morning, a practicing lawyer in the afternoon, a live gas pipe welder in the evening, and a opera singer after dinner... Why yes I have a gender studies and liberal arts degree, how could you tell?"
I'll be a baker in the morning, a tv news anchor in the evening and dead by nighttime.
I’m willing to wager none of them would have the stomach to pull the trigger on an animal in the first place.
“ ah yes, I will become a streamer at the daytime, a factory worker at night”
Ill be a nuisance in the morning, racism preacher in the afternoon, shitposter in the evening, cum producer at night and I'll be dead by dawn
“I will be doing hard manual labor and work on pipes and stuff”
Something tells me you’ve never done either of those things before.
Probably not, but at least he seems to know that no one else in the Party has any interest in the hard work that comes with la revolucion. If any of these people in the video can be swayed it's probably them
ignorant comment, he's obviously played minecraft before
I worked on 4 in cast iron steam pipes for boilers... I would rather do that then customer service at Walmart... its less dangerous
@@jesshorn257 how about working on iron cast boliers IN WALMART
(Dramatic music)
@@jackalenterprisesofohio noooooo ;)
When my father was backpacking through the Eastern Bloc in the 1980s, he ended up one day at a big city hotel somewhere in Yugoslavia. He went to the front desk and paid for his room, then was instructed to go to a waiting area. After a little while, an employee came to escort him to the elevator, where another employee pressed the call button for him. When the doors opened, there was another employee inside, who took him to his floor. When he got to his floor, another employee was waiting to escort him to his room. Owing to a major economic crisis, something like 15% of the country were unemployed, and people were being given stupid fluff jobs to try and bolster the economy. Crises, man-made or otherwise, never really seem to be considered by modern socialists, since it's assumed that everything will just run like clockwork. Evidently that's not the case.
So if there's ever a socialist commune, my aim is to be the guy who pushes the elevator buttons.
I want to be the guy who controls the media.
I'll even settle for just the radio portion.
I remember Tim Pool saying when he went to Venezuela it was like a 15 step process, requiring several employees, just to get a cell phone and phone plan that would work in country.
I can't wait to be a twitch streamer once the revolution is over! Thanks, Communism! Wait. What do you mean: "farm or I die"?
More like farm and die, am I right mao?
Nothing bitch slaps like reality itself.
It's grow food and die. This grain isn't for you.
I am reminded of the best interaction on this question I've ever read.
Question: What will you do after the revolution?
Answer: Work on my farm, the same as now, except without the preassure of capitalism.
Answer to the answer: "Your" farm?
"The commune already has a barista."
*racks slide on pistol*
"Now get down the fuckin' mines."
I’ve been really thinking about this since seeing those pitiful pictures of a supposed farm in CHOP. These people don’t know how to farm, to build houses, pave roads or even butcher an animal. I legit think the working class will do everything for them while they become the new nobles in the party. Without realizing they walk down a self elimination path when the actual revolution comes.
well there certainly would be a new aristocracy living off the backs of everyone else, but these chuckleheads wont be alive to see it.
Rule 1 of post revolution tyranny, kill everyone involved in the revolution as clearly they are capable of overthrowing you making them threat number 1
These people hate and resent the working class for their success. The revolution is them eliminating the productive working class (they don't love the poor, they hate the "rich" aka productive successful people) after which everyone promptly starves or freezes to death.
No, I don't think most of these people will be the nobles of the party. Most would be turned into, as another commenter put it, "emergency fertilizer" because they're too unstable, unskilled, and generally unusable in a functioning society to be kept around after the violence is over.
Or a hobo with a rake....
@@N0stalgicLeaf honestly I think they just hate themselves at this point. Their entire worldview is built upon resentment and that there’s no truth but power. They’re locked in an eternal cycle of self loathing and myopathy
I notice a severe lack of people saying they would do the farming, working in the processing plant , Maintain the sewers, no, all academic positions of prestige
They all want to be like that one girl that works at LinkedIn
@@onyxxvenom9198 don't we all. I'm pretty sure I can do that job and I'm a research scientist
If you don't mind me asking, what kind of research do you do?
Because that's where they became one. They were told they were the smart educated ones that will lead the uneducated into the utopia.
No, you don't understand. There will just be a surplus of that stuff and no maintenance would be required, because in the socialist/communist revolution, "we" will do it the right way.
Hope you understand that I am not at all bein serious.
dont worry dev, they will do just as Cuba: they pretend they are still on a revolution fighting the facist imperialist status quo so there's never a post-revolution society
That's the greatest irony, there can never be a post-revolution society. Especially if the current government of the Communist regime works to keep its power. The Revolution is never done, Lenin and Trotsky's Global Communist conquest that began in the interwar period.
Mao's reign that required the Cultural Revolution that has now left a lasting scare of an unknown identity for the Chinese; just to cover up his Great Leap Failure.
After listening to many a reading of their texts. I gotta say it sounds absolutely exhausting and short sighted to have to constantly have revolutions and constantly have no idea where you’re going because otherwise you’re conservative.
Let's hope they won't want to nuke America and sacrifice themselves for the cause. *Cough* Che/Castro *cough*
@@strategicperson95 "Great Leap Backward" Works well for me, I think.
The phrase 'from each according to his abilities, to each according to their need" is yelled loudest by those of zero practical ability yet seemingly endless need.
It does seem to be the best deal for that type of person lol
They really seem to forget though that it means if you can work in the mines for 12 hours a day on 2 rations, you're working 12 hours a day on two rations. But how they seem to interpret it is that "it I can work in the fields for 3 hours a day for my work and then get 3 rations and the new Switch, 3 new games this month, the latest iPhone, and anything I can get off Amazon I wish."
@@slydoorkeeper4783 Notice how none of them want to work in any of the industries required to make consumer goods? As though "other people" will do all that for them, for free?
I will be in "adult daycare",making eucalyptus towels like real revolutionary.
Don't forget to make tik tok videos about how attending one meeting is so grueling.
@@Lonovavir lol! Definitely, my brother will be head of broadcasting and social media. He's good with the job,his youtube channel is safe space with one comment,my PSA.
P.S. As a kid we would play as cops and robbers,cowboys and indians etc. Now grown man play communist regime. My country end up in war because it was fake socialist country, so I know from first hand what party is capable of. I would put them just one month here, or anywhere in east Europe and Balkans to see how "America is bad"
"It rubs the eucalyptus on the towel, or else it gets the hose again!"
I was assigned to Security/HR in a textile factory...I wanted to be was a farmer.
As an entertainer of sorts I found myself associated with burlesque dancers that were also "left wing revolutionaries" . They started this same discussion about post revolution jobs and most decided that they'd teach their respective circus skills...only one mentioned baking bread.
So their plan was essentially: overthrow the existing society (Pressumably to better their own lives and the lives of others.) and then to do exactly what they were doing before?
"uniform design"
Part of me really wants to see what type of uniforms this person would design for the new red army
Prepare to be purged by cat boys in maid outfits.
@@samueltitone5683 nah that's way too based for them, It would be more of the tumblr art style, I picture something stephen universe-esque... definately plus-size
I dated an "anarchist" in my early 20s. She wasn't an anarchist when we started dating but she fell in with a bunch of weirdos and got sucked into what I consider a cult. I cannot believe the stuff I heard coming out of their mouths - and many of them were in their 30s or 40s at the time. It was unreal. They wanted to join the army reserves to "get weapons training for the day the anarchist revolution came to a head."
I will never forget that conversation with her. I excused myself from the table at Wendy's (go figure she ate at a capitalist, corporate establishment) walked into the bathroom, looked myself in the mirror and said "what the hell are you doing here?"
They were crazy. Absolutely crazy.
Atleast you got away. Is she still anarchist?
Imagine thinking you’re gonna become a skilled combat vet by being in the reserves lmao.
@@Snp2024 I haven't spoken to her in years but from what I gather, yes. Sadly not really living her best life but I guess that comes with the territory. If you're gonna mythologize being poor as participating in the "class struggle" then I guess you get what you put in.
@@Aiphiae oof 😣
Dev: "Who will do the work?"
Praxagora: "The slaves"
Yes, communism was refuted by Aristophanes in the play Ecclesiazusae written around 390BC
Antiquity will be our salvation
There's something really interesting about how most of these people hoping for a revolution and being staunch communists (their words not mine) all being upper middle class. You don't see homeless people or even lower middle class people ever talking about a communist revolution. Even when they are the ones with probably the least to lose. This is coming from experience living in a low end liberal area. I've seen hundreds of LGBT+ pins on backpacks but not once have I ever seen a hammer and sickle.
People like us that need to work for a living without leeching off of dad have both a better understanding of the nature of humanity and not enough time to indulge in this sort of moronic fantasy called communism (That has been proven time and again to fail. Marx was an idiot, and it says something about those who follow him).
Yeah, commies also realized that barely any workers bought their workers revolution idea, so they pivoted towards race as main group divisor.
LGBTQ+ pins are basically how the hammer and sickle re-brands itself for morons.
Thats because they are the middle child between wealth and poverty, not truly understanding one or the other
“Real communism has never been attempted.”
People who say this never saw CHAZ/CHOP.
Oh they did see it they just repeated the same line again with zero self awareness 😂
I thought CHOP was anarchist not communist
@@ohman1247 That anarchy didn't last very long did it when the thugs with guns entered the picture.
@@ohman1247 same shit different name
At least one of them admits that they’ll use gulags.
They never anticipate they'd be the ones occupying them. Revolutionaries are a liability post-revolution
6:36 Fascism, fundamentally, came about as a nationalist splinter of internationalist communism. So these peoples idea of communism being effectively internationalist fascism comes from the fact that fascism is, in essence, nationalist communism.
Almost like socialism is socialism. It's like Christianity, there's vague agreement on general theology but they start tearing at each other like rabid dogs when they start trying to hash out dogma, to the detriment of all involved and often the onlookers as well.
Fascism is not communism though. The economic ideology and its overall ideology is completely different. The only similarity is that they are both dictatorships but by such stupid logic of them both being statist thus are the same you can say monarchy is also communism since both are anti democratic
Except fascism developed as a critique of liberalism.
The difference between fascism and communism is that fascism directs its violence outwards, while communism doesnt direct any violence at all.
"This seems to be a mistake! I was supposed to keep working at my factory but with a better insurance and better working conditions!"
"STREAM ABOUT LENIN WITH THE FEMBOY SOCKS"
*Praxagora:* I want all to have a share of everything and all property to be in common; there will no longer be either rich or poor; I shall begin by making land, money, everything that is private property, common to all.
*Blepyrus:* But who will till the soil?
*Praxagora:* The slaves.
"Who will be making food?"
There will be no need, everyone will be able to afford food in stores.
/s
"There seems to be a mistake, i planned on being a neuroqueer video game streamer for the cause."
"Dig the fucking hole!!!"
Oh please.
The communists wouldn't want to stain their walls.
They'll do the Cambodian thing and drag em to fields.
From the comfort of a safe, functional society: "I think I'll do whatever I want after the revolution."
After the revolution: "Day 6. I still can't catch that fucking rabbit. I'm out of SpaghettiOs. There's still no TV, so there's nothing to criticize..."
So Marx was against cleavages, just goes to show how warped his views of the world was
I looked through one of those "after winning communism" threads about a year ago and the number of people who seemed to think we can automate all labor (like...all of it and right now) was astounding. They genuinely think that no one needs to work now because machines can do it all and The Man is holding the technology back because reasons.
Yeah, they seem to envision a world of just doing hobbies while simultaneously prattling on about the evils of consumerism. Whereas I can’t conceive of anything that would breed consumerism more than being left to a life of hobbies.
@@Eirik_Bloodaxe Amen to that!
“Communism is just Fascism but international.” Exactly.
They just openly talk about Gulags without thinking of the fucked up stuff from there
They either don't know what happened in Gulags or think they'll be the guards.
@@LonovavirIt's the latter. They understand very well that they need to wield the institutions of control in order to get what they want, not tear them down as they claim they want to do. How else are they going to ensure that they are the ones holding the guns instead of the shovels?
God damn, Dev! You are on a roll! Please don't burn yourself out, man.
I told him to stick to 2 vids a week, because he will. He's an idiot though, so expect a 1 month hiatus next week or so
@@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin one of the reasons i'm not burning out right now is because i'm allowing myself to play one day on my stardew valley file in between every single major daily task
@@ShortFatOtaku Dev has achieved enlightenment.
@@ShortFatOtaku Based.
They think society will just be like a giant college quad where you can lounge around, go to the library or gym, attend some student-club event, etc. at your own leisure with only minimal (and largely optional) obligations to attend classes. NVM they each took out six figures loans to pay for the army of laborers who facilitate that leisure or that even with the option now, they just isolate in their dorm rooms watching anime on shitty laptops.
step one: revolution
step two: ???
step three: UTOPIA
A revolution filled with answers that are as clueless as their message, Marx would be so proud
Every time I hear about communism, I keep thinking how I would rather isolate myself in a cabin in some super isolated spot where I can grow enough food to support myself and hate life because I utterly lack creature comforts, but at least I get to choose *something*. And how I wouldn't even be allowed that, that I would still be forced to either do miserable amounts of gruelling work, or more likely sent to a gulag because I am incapable of conforming to their nightmare dystopia to any capacity, where upon I'd be forced to do miserable amounts of gruelling work.
To be fair if you were living off the land frontier style you also would be doing "miserable amounts of grueling work" just out of necessity to survive instead of because of government quotas.
@@MALICEM12 Correct. The only difference being I chose to do it instead of it being mandated and forced upon me.
@@uberpinkwarrior fair, but a very modern Western viewpoint. Technically one could say you didn't choose it, that nature forced it upon you just as the Soviet government would. That the only choice was an ultimatum to live or die.
Not that I'm arguing for Communism or anything.
Narcissistic Personalities and Politics never mix well.
Most revolutionaries were just as bad if not worse than the establishment and they were extremely narcissistic themselves
@@guilhermehank4938 I don't necessarily know how much was narcissism, or them realizing there were practical problems preventing the creation of their utopia.
Like how Lenin wanted the price of food to be the price to create the food, but didn't realize it doesn't magically get teleported from the farm to the city. He thought the farmers were trying to make a killing when they were trying to break even.
Dev is a better college professor than the leftist professors I had in college.
Habla ingles?
@@asdasd-ty9se lol, my bad
How many of these people do you think could actually hunt anything?
Can you imagine 8 million people in New York city "hunting and fishing" to survive?
I mean, with the number of dog sized rats their, I'm sure they can catch something...
After the alt right revolution, I will be a humble shepherd, living in some backwater village on the frontier of the empire.
Based
Enjoy the dysentery
If I can't be a knight, I might join you. :)
That's basically me. You could do worse.
@@aarosundvall we know how to boil water nowadays. Nobody’s going to be getting any illness like that any time soon.
"a fisherman in the afternoon" says the person who's never fished to the person who's never led a group project
Simply not understanding how civilization already functions was the crux of my own socialist soyboy sojourn.
I had a shitty proto-woke school system, a cluster B dropout mother, and a father who was afraid of her and bad at communicating... And it was amazing how many ideological tendrils were out feeling for lost boys.
5:28 "My job will be running the forced labor camps where we send all the people who thought they would be artists, poets and philosophers." 😂
I almost feel bad for them, but after seeing how just flat out unpleasant, cruel, and petty these people are, they deserve the shitstorm coming their way if they do get what they want
Marx talking about intercourse and cleavage got me feeling some kinda way
That carbuncled old coot knew what he was saying.
"Yeah I'd like to design the uniforms for the Red Army. Id make them look Fabulous"
"Yeah we don't really need that. You'll be a grunt. Here's your rifle and entrenching tool."
"Noo you don't understand, this isn't supposed to apply to mee"
I remember one idiot said that they would have their own farm and become a teacher.
I hate to be that guy but as a homesteader one actually could do that. I'm no fan of Commies, Marx, or socialism at large but in the American pioneer days it was pretty standard fare to have multiple hats when it was 15 folks and a dog on a plot of land with nary a civilized person for hundreds of miles in any direction. Obviously you can't do that in Communism, but the notion on its own is pretty reasonable and even advantageous at times.
@@theeccentrictripper3863 I think the problem is "your own farm". That does not compute under communism.
@theeccentrictripper "British colony in the 1600s" is about as far removed from communism as you get.
What would be my job after the revolution? The one making sure you are working in the coal mines. The one stealing the food from your mouths. The one who kicks you out of your home. The one who forces you on your knees in front of the wall. You brought this on yourself comrade, I am just making your dream a reality. Sad that it was actually a nightmare.
Otaku: “the best thing we can do when dealing with this ideology is….”
Me: take em out first.
Otaku: laughter
Me: Oh…ya, I meant that.
We cannot coexist with the Commie swine. Removing them first is absolute in necessity.
This is accurate. Leftists are Capital E Enemies. Right now the rule of law still keeps everyone in line and maintains the peace for the most part, but they are not fellow countrymen, except by technicality. If that peace ever stops being the case, we have an entire country filled with infilitrated enemies to shoot.
Rev up those helicopters boys, we've got an infestation.
_Fortunate Son intensifies_
@@dragoneye6229 I thought these communists would be assigned to skydiving exercises.
"I'll be a brilliant philosopher, Neurologist, mechanic and playwright after the Revolution!"
This kind of mentality is entirely childish, the kind of thing you hear from most kids 6 and under about what they want to be once they get older.
at least when a child says that it's kinda cute and charming, but when a 30's something millenial says it it's just sad and shows a lack of maturity.
@Fernybun Given the extended state of adolescence these days, you're not far off. At 18, we're expected to be adults, but many are emotionally and logically stunted.
Unbelievable. These people actually believe all of this.
Anyway, I know what I'd be. I'd accept the rule, and become an enforcer. And I'd look for people like this to make them do what they're told, which will be roughly the opposite of what they wrote on twitter they want.
I was thinking along the same lines.
I'd 'help' them contribute by making them provide the food, and, when that runs out, making them the food.
@@gnerkus do you really want the weird STDs/diseases they carry around in your beef?
@@hertzwave8001 That assumes I'll be eating the same slop as the plebs.
I was thinking I could work in the Media, making propaganda and censoring "untruths" about our great People's Republic.
Them: "I want to design clothes for the army!"
Communists: "Haha, you made me laugh comrade. Due that, before I send you to the factory floor, you get two slices of bread instead of the usual one as your today lunch!"
then the guard gets executed for creating inequity
I am not a service member with a military background, but J.L. Hamilton doesn't look like the kind of guy I'd trust to run logistics for a military operation.
Well he might get a job in testing the ammo. But after one session, his position might be vacant again, but he would have given everything for the good of the commune.
Weirdo commies aside is there an actual look for a logistics officer one expects lol
"Excuse me comrade, when do we get the free healthcare??"
"In a few minute's, face wall now please"
"You'll never have to pay another medical bill in your life."
"Free... healthcare? What's that?"
Nobody could make insulin by themselves, so diabetics are fcuked. Penicillin production in usable quantities is an industrial venture.
The list of shit you can't have in a society without specialization is basically everything that hunter-gatherers didn't have.
"In a minute, though it isn't quite free. It does cost a few pennies. And the labor of the gravedigger."
Why does nobody ever say they want to be digging a new canal after the revolution like the kulaks?
To be fair, there WAS one guy who said he wanted to work on pipes and plumbing and stuff. Dirty hard jobs.
@@affablesage9582 was that just in the morning? 🤣
@@reallylionbastard Didn't say when he'd be doing it.
They don’t know what canals or kulaks are.
These are the same people that would’ve snitched on Anne Frank to the SS soldiers passing by.
These Red Revolutionaries never think they could be shot and killed in the war. People fighting to keep their liberties and freedom. Train for the day they hope never comes.
"Better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it."
-some based individual.
@@SoMuchFacepalm I'd rather be a warrior tending to a garden. Than a gardener in the middle of a war.
Dev, you're right when you compare Fascism and Communism. Fascism is just National Socialism, while Communism is International Socialism.
The only other real difference is that Fascism glories the blood of a specific people/tribe and views the state/the leader as an organic, spiritual extension of the People's Will.
I mean to be fair, the Russians thought the same thing at the time. They absolutely looked down on the other Soviet ethnicities and their states. The “fascism is honest socialism” point I think mostly stems from the fact that fascism doesn’t lie to the people that the state will just simply wither away, instead supposing the state is absolute forever.
The best part of a hypothetical system that hasn't been implemented yet is it doesn't have to do anything. It can be all things to all people because it exists independently in everyone's heads and doesn't need to deliver on anything.
It's like how political parties that aren't in power claim they'll do all sorts of amazing things once they get in power but don't once they get in because it turns out ruling is hard.
Hence the Utopian Fallacy and the mass-starvation and the people being "forgotten" right out existence.