saints row 4's story made no sense
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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I've always said Saints Row 4 is a good game, just not a good Saints Row game.
Same. As a standalone game, it's great fun. As a Saints Row game, it never aimed at the target.
This is what I always tell people about Batman vs Superman. It’s i great movie if you act like it’s it’s own original movie and not based on the previous interpretations of any of the characters
Eh.. I think it's a good Saints row game. It was fun to play through. I'll never play it again....But I had fun.
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This game is still better than Saints Row reboot
If the saints row reboot gameplay wasn't buther and wasn't clunky. I say it would've made it a okayish game..the story still sucks but at least the gameplay would've made it tolerable.
The lowest of bars.
Not a very hard thing to be better than
100%
That's really not saying much. And I mean...REALLY not.
Editing Johnny into the bosses place feels like a systemic issue.
Every single character who talks about Jonny acts like he's The Boss.
He's the scary crazy one, he's the action hero cool man. He's the one who did all the stuff.
He's the extra special one that everyone talks about.
_No, that was ME_
Facts I'm "him"
'pokemon go to the polls' might be the most saints row-like dialogue i've ever heard outside of a saints row game
I’m ngl, this game was fun af and is most def one of my guilty pleasures.
13:45 The Roddy Pieper scene and the Keith David re-recruitment scene was a call back to a famous John Carpenter Movie called They Live. They both stared in it and there is a famous fight scene between the two that has been referenced in a lot of things, to include Southpark
if i remember correctly it was because the guy would not put on the glasses and dint believe him so they fought and he put the glasses on. its been a very long time since i saw the movie.
Supposedly Piper and David really got truly physical in that scene to give it realism.
Great movie
to be fair their reaction to the earth being blown up was in character considerating in Saints Row 2 the boss was a legit sociopath that only really valued the saints gang
Honestly this game grew on me a lot - a fun simple journey into the universe I've liked. A big fan service DLC turned into a game. Better than SR3.
The fact that Zinyac shows up in the credits cutscene, much smaller, means that SR4 was just a mini series/movies.
My theory on the Johnny Gat "Death"
After being abducted I do like to believe that Zinyak did manage to make a double to pass off as the real gat and dead on the floor.
While Loren was laid out by Gat, he most likely believed that one of his Morningstar members manage to kill him.
Reason I believe Zinyak can make a gat double cause let's be real, this alien can teleport in an instant back and forth,and all his technologically advance stuff, millions of years further from present day, so most likely he had a lifeless Gat copy laying around for this.
And the zombie Gat, well that's more like an unlockable and a joke on how we love calling in dead homies like Lin and Carlos from Saints Row 1 and 2.
As for the Clones DLC:
As far as I remember, we met with a Johnny Gat fan who somehow got like some hair from Johnny to bring another version of Johnny alive.
So if some nerd in a mothers basement can create a clone of Gat, it should not be hard for the Alien Civilization to also be able to create a dead looking body.
@@Hushio-Heroyup
Carlos…😖
might be reaching but my theory is that Gat did actually die but Zinyak travelled back in time to abduct him (maybe interested in cloning his body since at the start of the game he says he wants to capture the best humans), and if that's true maybe saints row 4 is set in a different timeline
@@rafael0alves Yes and its not like that comes out of nowhere if you actually did the research and gathered up the text adventure stuff you find out the Zin have access to time travel way before the ending.
They really should’ve used the time travel thing as an excuse to remaster the original games
saints row 4 was originally planned as saints row 3 dlc
That cutscene with Johnny picking up Shaundi was a placeholder in one of the older versions of SR2 I believe
playing the reboot must feel like getting attacked by a swarm of mosquitos naked without insect repellent.
Oddly specific
It does make sense. After the boss defuses the bomb, they become president of the United States, then Aliens invade, the boss then fights the aliens but gets put in a matrix pod, the boss then does boss things and gets put in the nebuchadnezzar matrix ship to stop the aliens and after more boss things, the boss kills the alien boss.
A little rant here because I get very emotional regarding this topic.
There's one thing that, hilariously enough, bothers me really much despite tons of other bullshit. It would make much more sense for Johnny's "arcade" to have Big Tony as a boss of the Vice Kings section. He's a huge dude who kicked Johnny's ass and then tortured him in the first game (back when Johnny was badass but clearly had his limits instead of being an exaggerated cartoon character "badass") I don't even remember if Johnny ever interacted with Warren Williams at all whereas Tony would be someone who I believe could be a part of Johnny's nightmarish simulation.
Meanwhile it would make more sense for Warren Williams to appear in Benjamin King's simulation because he and Tanya were the ones to stage that coup, whereas Tony died a loyal bodyguard to King far as we know and yet King acts like he was some traitor in reality as well ("like Anthony ever listened". Bull-fucking-shit, that's all Anthony ever did in the original game. It was Warren who couldn't shut the fuck up). King brushed off his death in SR1, "it's just business, let it go" but at no point saw him as a traitor.
The game has literal superpowers and aliens, the reboot is a trashfire and this is what makes me actively angry instead of being exasperated. Feels like I'm going crazy.
Or hell, since the Arcade games about saving Aisha, make the boss the dude who killed her
fun fact the whole sr4 supposed to be dlc for sr3
This guy is my kind of reviewer, For me story as important in a game as gameplay but most reviewers talk about gameplay for like 50 mins and then story for like 5 mins. You are completely opposite.keep making videos mate❤
I just really wish they called this game something else as a separate series from Saints Row while still giving us a continuation of the “OG” Saints Row series. Would’ve been printing money, especially with the eventual rise in popularity of super heroes
exactly what i thought, SR4 would be the perfect spin off to fill the gap between SR3 and a new main title
@@rafael0alves I feel like they could still do it tbh. The superhero gameplay was top notch I’d love for them to make another game
@@rafael0alvessr4 is what agents of mayhem should've been but instead we got a fortnite/overwatch ripoff
>telltale waking dead is overrated
FUCKING TURBO BASED.
Not really. Everyone kinda knows Telltale was overrated, with enough time now passed. Maybe if the choices actually _did_ matter, that'd be one thing.
That Telltale hot take is 100% valid. Nothing changes except whether person A or B is there
I know it's nitpick, but the line around 9:45 isn't a retcon introduced in SR4. The Boss said the same thing when they confronted Julius at the end of the secret mission.
But it _is_ a retcon, considering:
1. The Playa/Boss was never timid or afraid in SR1.
2. The Playa/Boss _does_ talk, just rarely. And their four speaking lines are all sarcastic quips.
3. You couldn't play as a female boss in SR1 and Laura Bailey's Boss says the line about being scared in SR4.
@@MarvinPowell1 What I'm saying is that if it's indeed a retcon (which I don't think it is, people are just grasping at straws), then it was introduced in SR2 and not 4.
Julius Little: "Jesus, you haven't learned a goddamn thing."
Playa: "Wrong. I've learned that being in charge is better than being a bitch who keeps his mouth shut and does what he's told."
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Good point
Incorrect the boss said scared to talk not scared to do anything retard yall dont listen and it shows 😂😂😂😂@MarvinPowell1
Ahh yes, Saints Row 4. A game that i own. A game that looks like it might be some mindless fun despite it being a poor Saints Row sequel. A game that i only played about 20% of before having to throw in the towel and give up, considdering my 60 bucks wasted.
If you think Volition just started sucking with the failure of the hipster reboot, then gather round, it is story time:
I bought the game with fairly low expectations, after SR3 i certainly did not expect the game to live up to SR2, but jumping around doing superhero stuff looked pretty fun, you still get to customize your Boss which i do like, so i figgured it would be worth a buy.
And you know, for the first few houers it was. It may not feel like a Saints game, but it actually was fun to leap around in the open world and cause mayhem. So you could say it did live up to my expectations of it.
And then it crashed. Well that's a bummer, i lost some progression, but you get back on the horse and... it crashed again...
Yeah this game was absolutely cursed for some of us, and at first, nobody knew what was going on. Some people had no problems at all, others like myself were reporting that, the longer you played, the more, and the faster the game would start crashing. Eventually it got so bad that the game would crash 10 seconds after loading a save. It was literally unplayable.
Needless to say we started reporting these issues, and nothing happened. We got louder and reported it more, and tried to investigate the issue ourselves and see if we could find some common cause, and nothing happened. Eventually we got numerous and loud enough that Volition had to weigh in, just stating that they coulden't reproduce the issue.
For months this went on, untill someone, and i belive it was someone from the player base, actually found the problem. Even though SR4 is almost a copy-paste of SR3's engine and map, some Dilbert at Volition deleted some very important engine code that adds support for composit USB devices. So in a nutshell, if you had any sort of composit USB device connected to your system (anything from Keyboards with programmable functions, mice with added functions, USB-Hubs of any kind, flight sticks, fighter sticks, steering wheels, retro gamepad adapters, and any software that allows you to program any sort of advanced USB device, you know, hardware that a gamer might own), the game would simply not work.
But ok, finally we found the problem, so of course Volition patched the game, right? I mean they were still actively supporting the game at this time, they were only half-way through making those crappy costume DLC's, they haden't released the "Enter the Dominatrix" expansion yet, the game was still being worked on, and all they needed to do to fix this was restore the code that was working fine in SR3, so obviously they fixed the issue, yeah?
Volitions idea of fixing the issue, was to make a post on the Steam forums explaining the problem, and asking people to please remove and delete any offending hardware and software that would cause the crashing issues.
The "fix" was: Please go buy some crappier hardware than what you've already got, uninstall vital software that you need to play other games in your library, because we can't be bothered to clean up the mess that we made. Now please go buy our DLC.
Needless to say, this is where i walked away angry.
Bringing King back was a weird idea. Like SR1 was an Xbox exclusive, so most players would be confused af about his inclusion. I know I was. But he's still a cool character.
Fun fact Johnny was not meant to die in 3 but the publishers wanted him killed.
I believe they brought gat back because they got so much backlash from killing him off in the previous game.
I know Saints Row 4 is bad but I can't help but love it because of how overtop it is and because it's fun to play. 🤷🏻♂️
I always liked how they explained Gat being alive. Lead alien was so afraid of facing him he imprisoned him during 3.
Fun fact, Zinyak's voice actor is also the mexican doctor in Better call Saul
"At least Sonic didn't have an important plot event and then retcon it in the next game."
Shadow dies at the end of Sonic Adventure 2, the game you actually used footage for in the video.
In the very next game, Sonic Heroes, it is revealed that he didnt die after all and after THAT he got his own spinoff.
I think it funny shadow got his own spinoff because a fan sent a sega a letter about sonic using guns. But the director thought that be impossible since sonic never uses guns, but thought shadow would.
It was technically a Shadow clone, though, not that it makes things any more logical.
@@MarvinPowell1 no. It's been confirmed that the heroes shadow was the real one and is just what the shadow androids were based on while shadow was in cold storage again. Don't forget that shadow has been in stasis before.
To be fair it’s 100% in egg man’s character and capabilities to do that
@@Avada_ontop doesn't make it NOT a blatant and immediate retcon.
Funny story, when my homie and I played saints row 3 when it first came out I said to him “I bet Johnny got abducted by aliens or some shit- they never showed us his body” you better believe I almost shat myself when I saw that come true in saints row 4 lol
Ah for the body stuff I just assumed the bad guy was full of shit and lied about it then that Shaundi meant bury him symbolically - like a jacket or something
First i want to say, great retrospective of the whole series, very enjoyable reviews and having played 3 of the 4 games i can agree with basically everything. Secondly, just some storybit that annoyed me from back when i played 4, the Saints now have a time travel device and save the planet, so why not next save Aisha, save Carlos, save Lin. Thats the problem when you introduce a reality changing macguffin, all of those deaths mean nothing anymore.
Growing up is understanding Randy Savage was light-years ahead of Hulk Hogan in everything except for politics.
Saints Row 4 was meant to & should been left to be a DLC for The Third.....not to be a full game. The superhero thing wore thin like your plus size girlfriend rocking,' holes in her lace thongs..... although it was a fun game but again it shouldn't gotten the green light to be a full game.......
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SR 4 is my favorite game in the series.
Same
@@Demulouss I’m happy I’m not alone
You know what I like doing best? Going to Sierra Point, spawning some non-super homies, and letting them go ham on the SNP. Wish there were some non-replacement mods for the cut/unused NPCs like Lin and Sharpe tho
Your channel definitely needs more subs and views my brother. Enjoyed your videos
Every single saints row player’s nightmare is gangsters fighting British aliens and jumping the shark right next to Irish leprechauns rapping in the hood and going into space
Here’s an list of all the franchises for jumping the shark by going into space.
Hellraiser
Friday the 13th
Leprechaun
Dracula
James Bond
Saints row
Fast and the Furious
Do anyone see the theme here with this problem.
you forgot call of duty but they did bring us back to reality even though the recent cod games don't hold a candle to the original like bo1, bo2, mw2&3(you know the old ones)and so on.
I just wish the game wasn't in simulation but also kept the superpowers
Saints row 2 and 4 are the best in the series but for different reasons. 2 had the vibe and story. 4 had the game play and as bleh as it was the story made sense ramping off from 3.
Super villian celebrity turned president turned superhero.
Not like they could go back to street level crimes after they have access to satellites that fire rockets and essentially a private airforce.
I gotta say this may not have been the bast saints row game but i think it does a lot right even though it is bad shit crazy i love it. one of the little details i like is how some of the characters have little dialog with specific characters like Jonny and Julius. it had a lot of heart this game was the last good saints row even if it wasn't the best and then we got saints of college debt
I like how they incorporated all the other saints row games in one I thought it was dope
Long time no see, Jay! Missed ya content!
Life Is Strange will remain forever undefeated as the greatest decision making based game ever.
Saints Row 1-2: STFU about GTA
Saints Row 3: Look we're not GTA, were funny!
Saints Row 4: OK this is too much funny. Actually it was all just a joke, LOL!
Saints Row 2022: Buzzfeed made a video game but forgot the funny
Saints Row GooH: Doesn't exist, we all just had a bad dream at the same time
Played this game off acid, when I was driving in the beginning of the game it didn’t feel like I was controlling it had me tweaking for a bit. Also do not recommend playing while at the peak of the trip characters talk too much and it was getting irritating lmao still really enjoy this game.
Ngl, as soon as you said why you hate Hogan I immediately subscribed
"We'll have two Shaundi's to please all fans"
Me #1 Shaundi hater: "GODDAMN IT!"
Honestly the only part that never made sense with Zinyak abducting Johnny is his reason. Like what does he mean Johnny could Defeat him? The Boss is the one that should be the biggest threat to Zinyak not Johnny lol Gats Death was trash anyways in SR3 and I kept expecting him to show up near the end of the game or something. The whole Funeral scene in SR3 literally makes no sense if you replay it. This game makes more sense then SR3 did.
at the start of the game he says he wants to capture the best humans, probably wanted to clone him or keep his body. And for saying he could defeat him, the theory of the boss and gat being the same person could explain this
7:20 what if that implies you and Gat are the same person like Norton and Tyler in fight club?
saw a comment about how every character talks about gat like he's the boss, makes a lot of sense
This channel deserves more than the 4K subs it has
I wish Lin and Donnie were in the main story, well a bunch more sr1 and 2 characters
Rough times if you ran all the saints games.... the last one was the pyre funeral, eh?
i actually enjoyed sr3 & sr4 🤷♂️ xbox 360 days, those were my go to games. goofy bad story but pretty fun gameplay imo
Gat was the best the problem is they killed him off couldn’t go back and they knew saints row was just done at that point cause saints row the third made no fucking sense it was like a big old gap in story not to mention the way Johnny dies is from a brute clone as if a crime syndicate really has one just laying around somewhere. Not to mention boss leaving gat to fight made no sense. Best friend and three vs small amount of guys come on. Not to mention the two sisters just magically disappear from the plane. I mean what the actual fuck 😂
Killbane was cool antagonist:)
Fellow Jason here (spelled different) found ur channel not too long ago n i must say, i like. keep going
The moment he mentioned Randy Savage, I knew this channel was the cream of the crop.
SR4 was really fun to play (not counting the QTEs) but the story was utter bs, even if it had some funny moments. And then the Reboot made it look like a work of art in comparison.
RIP Volition, but they truly deserved imploding for what they did to the franchise. (PS > At least they became a good get woke go broke example in the end.)
I think originally Stephen Colbert was supposed to be president for this game
The thing you said about sonic retcons isnt actually true
All things considering sonic stayed pretty much all good when it comes to canon
What gets changed is characters personality and motivations and i agree that this is bad but if you played the games in order you will see that very few things actually get retconned as the games went on
Yea the stories are more or less coherent within their own worlds.
I do not get the hate for Saints Row IV. Yeah, it should have never been a "Saints Row" game and Volition would've been smarter just making it its own IP, since it's actually one of the best superhero games ever made (especially a superhero game that isn't about Spider-Man or Batman.) But damn if the gameplay wasn't fun! I guess it also helps that I don't see it as canon, but just as another in-universe movie, with Zinyak being an actor and all, especially with the actual DLC playing off that.
The only issue I have with Saints Row IV is that it's "Saints Row" and even that is minor to me, cause Saints Row the Third is when the series lost its soul; hell the canon ending of the game has the Saints sell-out and become movie stars, making what Gat said in jail 100% accurate. The "execute Killbane" ending should've been the canon ending to SR3, but I guess they just love "PMS Shaundi" too much over "Fun Shaundi."
Also, the smart option is Cure Cancer. We know what causes world hunger and how to stop it, but people just choose not to (Nestlé/Monsanto.)
what helps me cope is imagining that Zinyak travelled back in time to capture Gat, thus creating a new timeline where saints row 4 is set
I would beat my suit to your character fam
Best superhero game ever but not saints row
I'm so Glad Rob Van Damn reprised his role in this game from Saints Row 3.
I thought you were referring to Bioshock Infinite where the options are cosmetic at most..
SR4 is wayyyyyyy better than SR3 I will argue to the death about that.
17:13 Please, do a video on Sleeping Dogs.
The story of that game is above any GTA to me.
How would the SR fans say of SR4 if the story took place within a simulated Stilllwater with all of the interiors & cribs? Oh, & all of the clothes from SR2 too.
Fuckin dreamcast
Sonic retconned Shadow's death in SA2 because he was fine in Sonic Heroes (SA2 Technical Sequal)
Saints Row 4 should have just bein re-elected, like you play as the President of the United States just clownin countries and continents, you know like how it was going to be. instead of having Alien Invasion. Like the story almost made sense and almost was peak.
The game is fun, but it gets boring after a while, especially after beating the story. At least in the third game you have a area where you can kill a bunch of zombies. Plus they should have just stuck with gangs instead of introducing aliens. Even the third game still had you fighting gangs. And finally, I know everyone loves Johnny Gat, but for the sake of the story they shouldn’t have brought him back.
1:03 I damn near clicked off when it cued to Life Is Strange and the performed a hate crime when he said The Walking Dead
17:04 Terrible? no, i disagree. Beyond Stupid? absolutely, but I thought it was stupid in a fun way.
9:13 mate really did just pick a random cutscene and call it cringe
All games that have multiple endings end up having a cannon ending based on the previous game so the next one
In the series has a solid base to start from well unless that ending has about 3000 slightly different variations of that one ending and no one is going to figure that out because that is two messed up saints row 4 was my personal favourite Followed by saints row 3 and 2
Then 2022 dispite it really not being a proper saints row game and saints row 1 being the worst not story wise but game flow wise as a lot of the car chase shootouts scenes were difficult to carry out the big lubbersum cars that dominated the original game
People hate Hulk Hogan? Everyone I know loves him.
People who know the real life Terry Bollea is a huge piece of shit and terrible human being, hate him. But yeah, maybe people don't hate Hulk Hogan, the character.
I definitely need that tune that was playing in the intro
Bro. You're the fucking goat. It's 5:30 am and you got a nigga DYING laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 keep up the good work brotha
11:58 holy butcher lmfao
"tengo mucho perguntas"😂😂😂
@@rafael0alves querio coomer una mandazana
Ayeee Jay was waiting for this one weekend going fly so far big g🙏
Id take this over the reboot lmao since it still retains some semblance to the other games while the reboots just wipes everything
Probably would have been good as a stand alone game or a separate title from SR
This game at least tried to be Saints Row classic. The reboot is absolutely fails at doing the same damn thing.
Bro said nothing about cid
I remember i found roddy piper in sr4
I felt you on the hulk hogen segment
SR4 might not be the Saints Row we know and love, but I will say it's not an awful game like SR22, ugh...
13:40 is a refence from a movie THEY LIVE and y'all need to go see it actually a documentary 😂
I hated 4, so I was hyped for a new one, but the new one sucks even more than 4, I’m done with this game and it’s crap devs
The Gat body thing could be time paradox.
I mean it could have been him from another timeline.
EXACTLY, maybe he did die and Zinyak travelled back in time to capture him, creating the new timeline where SR4 was set
@@rafael0alves And anyone that got the relevant ending should know he has a time machine.
The nail in the coffin
Is this dude complaining about Volition resurrecting Johnny Gat? Now that's Cringe.
I mean I'll take a taletale game any day over saints row 4.
it's pretty good if you never played any other game int he franshise
My favs Def go, saints row 2 4 and 3, with me unable to judge 1.
So independence day lol
Saints row 4 to me is not cannon
Charcter is so cool