Lily Marie Bowen - Plus, Zapp's Neon Signs & the Ruby Hill Mine - Fallout New Vegas Lore
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"What's the matter, dearie? Afraid grandma will embarass you in front of your little friends?"
haha, Lily kickass.
14:54 one more feeeeieenned
@@blakewalker2032 🤣
Ppppppll
😆 pppppppllllllo😮pppko7pppppppppp 15:28 😊
Lily is the greatest grandma the wasteland has to offer
Mr Grey Tea that's very true
She's an 800 lb neon blue psychotic mutant bodybuilder wielding a 7-foot sword. She's the Grandma every kid wishes they had!
Just tell her to be careful when she's cutting the crusts off your sandwiches. And don't eat those Werthers Originals she's been carrying around in her purse, they're 160 years old.
Mr Grey Tea 🍵 yup make grandma in to human
Would you hug Lily?
Proudmario 1678 YES SHE NEEDS ONE
I think lily knew that dinky was fake, she recognized it as an attraction from before the war and as she usually does treats the courier like a kid that’s why she was asking them such a childlike question
That makes sense
Yup
I literally went to the comments to see if anybody else though that
I literally went to the comments to see if anybody else thought that
I felt so bad for her. I had no problem pretending to be her grandchild, to make her happy
There's just something inherently threatening about a Super Mutant using the phrase, "Give me some sugar."
Lovely person, though.
10/10 would smash
@@pleasantpheasant7456 Bro she's like over 200 years old
*Chuckles* I'm in danger.
CorrosiveReptile still legal
makes me think about the scene from Army of Darkness
Ghoul Ash: Gimme Some Sugar Baby!
[Girl Screams]
Maybe an ending where Lily takes her medication fully, but where the Courrier continues hanging out with her and reminds her of her past memories would've been nicer.
That's true and she could be the couriers grandma and throw them birthday parties with pinatas which you use her sword to hit it with but this is meant to be a "life is shit" feeling, i think. Not everyone can be saved and not everyone will live a happy ending becasue war, war never changes.
The only problem with her sedated state is that she'll be in silemt agony of who your courier reminds her of. And not all endings are the same because if you're legion she'd basically be killed if you took her to Cesar or Lanius.
Man It would, but this is Fallout New Vegas. A depressing but extremely good experience.
Mistbendigs basically suck in this game, lily and Veronica are great examples
yeah it would've been nicer, but since when is fallout nice? ffs, it's a post-apocalyptic world. there is no happy ending. at least it's not as bad as the witcher 3 lol, that shit fucks you up. maybe watch barney instead?
. . . Lilly's story hits me right in my emotions mainly because it reminds me of my grandmother before she had passed away. Having Lilly around me in New Vegas just makes me feel like my grandmother is still here watching over me. Lilly is sometimes the only companion i take because even if it's not my grandma's voice the way she acts still reminds me of her. The reason being was because my grandmothers mind was rock solid till she was given a different prescription of pills by the VA that ended up taking her memories to make her a bit healthier and she only ever had clouded memories of who me and my family were and the medicine only ever made her memories fade but as they faded her physical health was improving. Eventually the only choice my grandmother made was the same. Half doses to try and keep some semblance of who she was and who we as her family were. . . Those pills took away her mind and soon the damage was to far along to repair and she eventually forgot about all of us before passing away in the hospital. Having Lilly with me is my way trying to keep my grandma with me. Even though i know she's not really there. Oxhorn, Thank you for making this video. . . it really means a lot to me. More then you will ever know.
Damn man sorry For your loss
But I think you're brave for telling your story here and how are you nowadays?
I know the feeling, the way she talks with you, the way she worry about you is very similar to the way my grandma used to talk with me even when I was no longer a child because for she, I was still her little boy
Jesus Christ I'm actually tearing up, oh God,
I'm sorry about that. THATS SO SAD😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
I believe vault 17 was one of the Control Vaults. One of the few vaults where they did no experiments. It would explain why a 75 year old Woman was able to become a Super Mutant.
Also, maybe you should make a Lily Shirt that says Hello Dearie on the front.
silentpaw this needs more upvotes cx
That would be the best shirt ever
I would so buy that shirt! She is my favorite companion. Sweet psychotic grandmotherly Nightkin. I love her!
silentpaw [defect 75%] how about the Pitt shirt ?
silentpaw YESYESYEEEESSSS
pretty sure she''s "there enough" to recognize that that dinosaur wasn't real. it's a typical grandma sentence, i mean ..
grandmas would say the same about wooden horses. "do you wanna ride the horsie?"
came to the comments to say that lol thank you
Awesome. Lily is a great companion. Reminds me of actually having a grandmother in the game. I think it also teaches you a lesson. Not all monsters are actually monsters. Don’t judge a book by its cover.
Cappy Why so many periods?
Archimedes-97 the Builder
I have no idea.
Shes a well written character and how all Super Mutants should be made.
Arcade Ganon is also a great companion, mainly since he will leave you if you do something stupid which makes him more of a person than any other character.
Precisely. Judge monsters by the medication they take.
When I play a melee character I always pick Lily and only Lily.
“Lily's long life finally came to a close in the Mojave Wasteland. As the life faded from her, her last thoughts were of her grandchildren.”
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D:
i disagree about the dinosaur comment to me it just sounds like a thing a grandma would say at a landmark like that
Heck, I could see myself saying that to my niece or nephews if I saw Dinky.
I had to stop using Lily as a companion because she gave me a heart attack with her loud voice lines, especially when sneaking lol
Gray Mann Lily gave me heart failure for other reasons, rushing into a group of Deathclaws to defend my precious granny.
Gray Mann Same lol. The amount of times I almost shit my pants due to that!
GRANDMA'S GOT A PRESENT FOR YOU!
HELLO DEARIE :3
Lmao, same with me and Boone, just cruising down the road at night, spurs jingle jangle, jingling, cool as can be and suddenly theres a bang and a close up of a radscorpion halfway across the map being blown up in my face. 😂😂
This character was one of the most interesting characters in FO:NV if you ask me! I don't know why, but she is one of the first things I think of when I think of that game! Such a tragic situation. Choosing the half dose option felt like the greatest kindness to her.
Voltaic Fire yeah I've grown attached to her as I have with Boone and Veronica me and Lily have been on a lot of adventures
Honestly, what character in FO: NV isn't interesting?
Jacob Forbes All except for Easy Pete
Throttle Kitty Yes. I totally agree with you.
I love your answer HAUISDHUIAHDAS
I love how the voice is really rough and deep but speaks like a Grandmother.
Nothing creepier than lilly running full speed with that sword....stuff of nightmare's
Lilly has to be my fave companion. I refused to let her be experimented on for the nightkin cure.and her story legit bought a lump to my throat.i think id leave her taking her meds as is. Id hate to loose the memories of my kids. Ok lilly is a game chatacter. But she really resonates with me.thanks for this vid Ox. Your a star.
This is why fallout nv is a great rpg
Dang right best companion I had
lily makes fallout 4s companions look like garbage.
I believe both extremes are equal to killing Lily, stopping medication kills Lily and gives birth to Leo, full medication kills Lily and makes her a docile pet - half doses keeps her alive as a person, her personality and grandma-like attitude remains as well as her memories which shaped her as a person and doesn't allow Leo to take control over her... If she became a psychotic beast she'd either get killed or kill some innocents which could traumatize her of her sanity ever returned as even Master's assassination targets could be considered military targets, civilians would likely impact her much more, while I'm afraid full medication could make her forget everything permamently - half doses are both her own decision and give me hope that someday somebody will develop a way to return her memories while still supressing Leo, the one benefit of her being a super mutant is extended life, likely without aging, allowing her to wait for a cure way longer than a human could.
Lily should keep taking them in half doses because that is her only link to her humanity the only part of her left before the master changed her
full doses cause if not she will go insane and she might forget how to play the holotape anyway
I thought that it was the Stealth Boy that drove her berserk. Would she go back to normal if she stopped using it?
@@twistedyogerta Nightkin’s addiction to Stealth Boys is near impossible to break
If they ever remake ‘Fallout 1’, they should include Vault 17 where we meet a human Lily and her family. But when we return to Vault 17 a second time, we find out that The Master’s army raided the Vault and the residents are either dead or missing. And then, at a later time, we see Lily as a Nightkin and can remember her if she mistakes the player for one of her grandkids.
I think lily story is the saddest in fallout new vegas because she love grandchildren and never forgot them after many years. That why i pick to kept lily takeing half medication. ps good video Oxhorn keep up the good work
Even though there is not a lot of story to her, she is oddly enough one of the best companions in the game. Best Grandma for sure, too pure.
Man..it feels like there are so many heartbreaking stories in this game in particular. That isn't to say there isn't in 3 or 4 but it feels like new Vegas makes up for what it lacks in map size with just, characters and their stories.
MugenSniperGeek And granny, it's the selling point for me.
After the death of my grandmother it was nice having grandma Lily around again, oddly comforting.
@@braininajar6513 aww I’m really sorry about your loss.
Yeah, Lily's endings are tragic. None of them amount to any semblance of a good conclusion. But such is life in this game and we have to accept it. I personally went with asking her to keep taking it at half-doses.
It's sad to say many things are like that.
@@tashaconant5169 Indeed.
Full medications is the best option. Chances are her grandkids are dead so letting her forget them is actually a good thing so she doesn't look for them and having that clarity of thought is actually a good ending for her.
Did anyone else notice that the subtitles said "angles" instead of "angels" (18:37)? I instantly thought of that meme with the misspelled tattoo lol
oh yeaaààaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I can be your angle or I can be yuor devil.
The Rouge Angles of Santa live on past the apocalypse!
#noragrets
Hmm... the movie's "The Cure (1995)", right? =) If I remember correctly.
Idunno about the dinosaur, sounds like something my granny would've also said
So lily was *ACTUALLY* a grandma?
I honestly thought she was just saying random silly things since.....you know......
*She's a crazy schizophrenic super mutant*
The Crystal Gem I feel like while Super Mutants are mutated they still have intact minds (mainly the fallout 1, 2 & NV mutants) while Night Kin are crazy but certain emotions are either turned rampant, or become the only thing that keep them sane. Lily basically is suffering and shes trying to keep herself stable.
Freshly Memed
Wow.....
When I posted my comment I didn't expect to get a philosophical reply.
Though it is actually a pretty good comment.
Kind of a shame to see the 3 and 4 super mutants reduced to dumb mindless killing machines without any higher brain functions.
Imagine actually feeling for the person that got turned into an abomination against their will. But that's too much to ask, isn't it, Bethesda?
Char The Lizard
Well that doesn't mean that they don't have stories to find out about.
What about Fawkes and Swan?
The Crystal Gem Fawkes is better IMO than strong in fallout 4
It's a tragedy no matter how you slice it...I chose the middle one, so she could remember her grandkids.
Lily seems like the perfect, caring grandma. I wish I could have seen mine. Anyways, Oxhorn your videos are amazing! Sometimes they dea with real life situations, history, and a ton more! Don’t let haters stop you!
“Lily's long life finally came to a close in the Mojave Wasteland. As the life faded from her, her last thoughts were of her grandchildren.”
Me: :’(
I don't think most people know how strong Lily is.
Her Chopper is not only a good melee weapon, but the Assault Rifle that she has allows her to deal decent damage against most enemies. Usually characters only specialize in either Melee or Range, and the other usually is fault in terms of efficiency. Lily has two good weapons off the bat for both ranges.
Lily allows a decent 10% extra critical damage when sneaking, so this makes her better than Boone, who just makes people glow red. Any Sniper Character should have Lily. I always do when either having the Gauss Rifle or Thump Thump Characters.
Lily has a great amount of health and carry weight, better than other characters. Although she can't wear any armour, her strength and ability alone makes her good. Her heightened weight makes her better for more heavy weapons.
Upgrading your companions is always a must if you want to deal with enemies normally. On Normal, Lily can decently fight Deathclaws, 1 on 1, on her own, unlike most companions, and giving her her upgrade weapons makes her all the more better.
The best way to upgrade Lily is to give her Oh Baby!, which is part of her quest so this is easy, and the CZ Avenger Minigun, which is guarded by Super Mutant Centaurs in the North East in a massive crater. This alone makes her the best character to hunt enemies, Cazadors and Deathclaws. Generally I prefer her to use her guns in deadly occasions, whilst using her melee in mediocre situations (like Radscorpions and any enemy lower than Caz/Death). Her high health helps a lot against Cazadors, and Deathclaws have a difficult time killing lily even in Very Hard, unlike other companions or the player which will die in, most cases, one or two swipes.
Lily is the best companion. She is also adorable. The only issue is when you are crouching and sniping. If an enemy is coming towards you, Lily will say "Get behind me", and she will sometimes try to move in front of you. This isn't a Lily problem more so a Companion problem, as I noticed that with other companions such as E-DE too... though Lily is larger, so be careful if you are using something like a Grenade Rifle. She won't get in front of you if you are uncrouched, so after getting a sneak critical get out of it and you will be fine.
Khotgor Grandma’s AI is so good she bodyblocks me while I reload. Brb I’m gonna go cry for a while
I like to think that because of her saying "Get behind me" that they were trying to implement that as a lily only 'trait' to deter snipers from using her, but some bug accidentally implements it to all companions
In Boones defense he has the highest perception of any companion meaning he kills most enemies before you can see them yourself but lily is one of the most capable companions but her no armor thing really holds her back so that's the only reason I pick others but I mostly just went with companions till I completed their story then moved on to the next because I was so over powered it didn't matter which one I used
In Boones defense he has the highest perception of any companion meaning he kills most enemies before you can see them yourself but lily is one of the most capable companions but her no armor thing really holds her back so that's the only reason I pick others but I mostly just went with companions till I completed their story then moved on to the next because I was so over powered it didn't matter which one I used
Lily is my favorite companion in all of the fallout games she’s a kind sweet grandmother and who doesn’t love their grandma it does sadden me that the three options we get all kind of suck I would’ve loved to of found a way for her to remember her grandchildren but also keep her sanity at bay but we didn’t get that the best we can do is continue to love Lily because she’s grandma
I like to believe Lily went out west and had her own brand of adventures, rediscovering her past, and finding somekind of stability.
Zapp's is based off of the Neon Museum here in Vegas. Those walls exist today - you can see them clearly from an aerial view.
Lily one of my favorite FO characters. I will always remember the first time I heard her story. Thanks OX for showing additional dialog I never triggered in my games.
And she uses A FUCKING VERTIBIRD PROPELLER AS A SWORD
Jumping Buddy Vertibirds are actually much lighter and tougher than you think, the boomers used 3 balloons to lift up a sunken intact vertibird, and since the super mutants are basically 5x stronger than an average person makes it easy to carry. Also Propellers are quite sharp.
Freshly Memed im just saying its badass
The boomers lifted up a bomber from WW2 from lake mead.
Freshly Memed it wasn't a vertibird it was a WW2 bomber
LILY'S A BADASS!!!
WHY AM I CRYING OVER A MUTANT LISTENING TO A TAPE OF HER GRANDKIDS 😭😭
If I played making choices I'd make in real life I would give her the half dose. She's made her choice so I wouldn't want to override it. It'd be different if she only sat in squalor reminiscing about them and only living in the past, but she doesn't. She holds a job and is apart of Jacobstown life. She is leading a productive life. It would be cruel to take something precious from her just to force her to "not live in the past." If she wants to live with the bittersweet memory of her grandkids it's her right and makes her "human" any way.
Leo's probably her sword.
Just like that nightkin in Repconn who's friend is a Brahmin skull.
The game probably doesn't recognize that her weapon's changed, so it likely just says the dialogue regardless.
"Leo, let's chop!"
Well then, nevermind XD
Maybe he’s uncle Leo from Fo3
Can't be. When asking about the sword, she calls it "This old thing", and mentioned that "Leo" showed her how to get "It (the sword)" ready for chopping
I feel like Leo may have been a rather deranged grandchild of hers or some other friend/relative before being “recruited” into the Master’s army, or maybe even some other super mutant or a ghoul she met after that before the schizophrenia kicked in (assuming the Nightkin aren’t like that initially), but there’s no way of telling.
When I played New Vegas years ago I never came close to experiencing the lore to this high degree. But, just watching this video has helped not only to bring back the memories of this fun game, but helped me to re-enjoy my memories of it by expanding my understanding through your videos of the characters I encountered in the game, and heart felt philosophical points you expand upon. Thank you.
I never investigated Lily's backstory. It's far more interesting than I thought. Thanks, Ox.
I let Lilly made her own choice and it was pretty sad tho😢 I love Lilly, and she is the best grandma for any fallout players
*Me after sees this*
Dad: “why are you crying so hard”
Shit, Lily's story always makes me cry T_T
In my games I usually encourage her to take medicines in half doses, just because it was her own choice. But from time to time I've chosen the option with curing her insanity - and it was like "screw you, game, I gonna make her remember, no matter how, i have 100 in medicine so i should be able to find the way"
YEE HAW 🔥🔥🔥💥💥💥🤣🤣😂😂😎
Lillys story is one of the saddest
Hey Ox, you may or may not see this, but the Human Lily model and her grandkids are probably there because the game needs npc's to be attached to voices, seen if they're just recordings. The same thing applies to Ron Pearlman, the narrator, who also has a character model.
I would love to see a Super Mutant Jimmy traveling with Lily in a future game, given that the half dose is the canon ending. My favorite companion!
GRANDMA HAS A PRESENT FOR YOU
Lilly was my favorite companion from Fallout New Vegas. Watching this video brought back all of those great memories. Thanks for that Oxhorn...
You know what Ox in this case two of those options are like the Master and Frank Horrigan's dogma of "They know best" but if we side with Lilly and encourage her to keep taking half doses to let her her remember her grandchildren we can truly say "We know best." Because when we are willing to allow someone to make their own choice with a far happier end we truly are doing what is best. We are not hurting anyone, we gain nothing and Lilly will remember those two sweet kids for the rest of her long life we that is the courier gains nothing but a satisfaction that even though she hasn't as much control she is as happy as she can be till she is with her family again. If she takes the medicine at full doses she loses a important part of herself she loses her past and who's to say that given time she won't forget you, Marcus and the reason she started taking the pills?
If she stops taking them altogether she will lose more than just herself. She will lose all of her sanity, Humanity and will eventually meet a gruesome end at the hands of someone who only wants to protect themselves and those who they care about. She will ultimately be murdered and in my mind this would be all my fault as the one who told her to stop. The one who "Knew best." because I literately erased a sweet hearted grandmother who's only crime was being born in a vault who would of long ago been in a much better place had the Master not failed to see his mission was pointless before raiding her vault.
I am a spiritual person at heart and even in games like Fallout or GTA I will always try my best to do what I know is right. I can not side with the Powder Gangers, Legion, Enclave, the Van Graffs, Gizmo, and so many others because even though it is a game and we are allowed to pick these paths knowing we can undo all of it with a old save file I just cannot bring myself to be a traitor or monster. Power is fleeting but trust, honor, friendship, family and love are eternal and without them the things that give us nightmares win and we become monsters.
Lilly "Knows Best" as most grandmothers do and so I "know best" to let her hold on to what makes her Lilly. The memories of her family, friends and me are more precious than all the "Whiskey in Reno." to quote another character from New Vegas.
So what you are basically saying is that it is better to leave Lilly in a half-comatose state, in which she is still able to somewhat remember her previous life and especially her grand-children instead of curing her and allowing her to move on at the cost of forgetting her loved ones?
An interesting point of view. I do not agree that this is the best choice, but I can see where you are coming from. In general, I encourage her to take the full dose because I think she deserves to live her own life instead of being trapped in this state of semi-delirium.
Vahlen I get that, but when we deal with the other companions, the big decision is how to best help them make peace with their past. They can still move forward with their memories intact.
Our memories of the people we've met, our experiences and what we take from them shape us into the people we are now. Memory *is* identity. If Lily takes her medicine the way she should or doesn't take them at all, she won't be "Lily" anymore. We don't know who she becomes when she takes her medicine, but the Lily we know wouldn't want that.
The other companions still keep "themselves" in some way. Even Rex and he gets his *brain* replaced. It's heartbreaking that Lily can't. So I chose the option that comes the closest to what I felt was the "right thing". I want her to remember herself.
ingasparrow thats what fallout nv is about. The past and future coexisting... Lilly and dog/god is kind of similar. This kind of game makes you think about life to me ..
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Indeed. To quote a character from a film I have loved since I was young "My memory is me. If they are erased I die."- Johnny 5
When she says leo it reminds me from fallout 3 uncle leo
Dizzle Shizzle in fallout 3 there a friendly super mutant name uncle leo
New revelation: uncle Leo is Lily’s husband
@@ako6760 its been confirmed?
Yes.
Gonna be honest, listening and watching these vids is kinda relaxing, plus I love learning more lore so keep up the good work :)
So sad, I just want to give her a hug.......
rip spine
well prepared to be Flatter then the earth
@@jimmygetoffminecraft8073
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Squidpat Over9000
I have received hugs from the most friendly primarch in the universe, Vulkan.
If my spine survived him i surely will survive Lily's hugs.
When are you going to do the second part for the family?!!
Kay R what the hell is going on why there is no second family vid ???
Kay R Nora and Nate? one is dead we know what happens to Shaun and play the sole surviver why part two?
Kay R ye I’m starting to lose my interest in his content since he keeps going on to different lore and quests without finishing the one he’s started. It’s actually not the first time he’s done this to be honest.
OG_._ Bandz ? Srsly ? when ?
amit gabay u r soooo dumb
What should you take from this kids? Don't judge a book by it's cover.
Hearing and seeing Lily for some odd reason gives a warm caring feeling even if shes large and intimidating with a distorted voice she still gives that nice grandma vibe
On the subject of "We know best", that's kind of the point of the whole sidekick/companion thing. They are in our care, and we are making decisions for them to help them as we see it best to do so.
Grandma Lily, best grandma in the wasteland, and greatest person as well.
"We are all in the same game just different levels dealing with the same hell just different devils."
In some way that qoute speaks to me on a personal level one that i hope to understand one day
I don’t know why, but stories about hardened men or women treating a lonely old grandmother or grandfather, like they are their own family, never fail to touch my heart
I adore Lily, shes such great character and she does make it feel like someone cares for the currier with out expecting us to do tons of things for her.
Ox you are the best!!!! I am really glad that i can watch your videos with my nephew and not worry about cursing or foul language. Thank you for keeping it professional :)
Lily and Fawkes are the best Super Mutants, period.
Marcus and Frank Horrigan say hi
And Dog or The mix of Dog and God
Takeshi *Strong hated that*
Good shout, God is my favourite character in Dead Money. Also can't forget Harry and the Lieutenant from Fallout 1.
KnightRaven Yes he is.
Fawkes is better than any super mutant from Fallout 1 and 2, except for Markus and Frank
i don't have any living grandparents anymore. hell, earlier today i poured my maternal grandmother's ashes into the ground after digging the hole in the first place, then filling it back in and mounding it up.
lily reminds me of the love both my paternal and maternal grandmothers showed me in such abundance-- they and my maternal grandfather were my protectors throughout my life while my parents were either dealing with my intellectually disabled brother, or drowning their sorrows in vices. i miss those three so much.
lily is the one companion in the game who, no matter what, makes me feel safe and secure in the wasteland. i wish i could give my supermutant grandma a big hug.
I had no idea just how in-depth new Vegas went, I’ve been to Zappa and this is basically it still lol
Lily, everyone's favourite giant blue super mutant grandmother!
I think that Lily could make an appearance in a future Fallout game to tie up her story.
Idk because in my game i wiped out Jacobs town not to be evil i just think they are abominations but in short i think for npcs that can be killed they should not have in future games just so they can leave it to players what happened , but who knows they may i would not be upset if they did i just would wish my choices were the true ending
Well it's been shown before that the good karma ending is the canon one. In fallout 4 it's confirmed that project purity went ahead and the brotherhood won, in new vegas it's shown that the vault dweller killed the master. The only one that's sort of up in the air is New Vegas, but I'd take a guess that it was either wild card or NCR endings @@DannieDecentVlogs
@@DannieDecentVlogs Mutants didnt choose to become what they are. They should be given the opportunity to live and make a choice for themselves they were once human and still are in some aspects. Blame the master not the mutants.
Lily embodies dementia for me. My grandfather died of dementia a while back and lily reminds me of him a lot.
Apparently the people were flooded to death probably without time to react but the cards remained intact, undamaged, unmoved XD
They have a real sign place in las Vegas known as the neon graveyard
Lily is my favorite companion, shes so sweet and very tanky.
She's a grizzly that acts like a teddy bear.
Lily is the one of the only companions I cant be without throughout the Mojave. She may not be my grandma but she is the sweetest and most memorable companion I've ever had in the fallout universe
This story hits extremely close to home for me.
Before she passed, my grandmother had a terrible case of dementia. Sometimes, she’d look at me and ask “Where’s Robert?” And when I’d say, “I’m Robert.” She’d pat my hand and respond, “I know you are dear, but I’m looking for little Robert.”
Because in her mind there was adult me who helped her around the house and there was also child me that still needed her for scrapped knees.
Sometimes she’d even ask me to go looking for “Little Robert” because she was worried about him. I’d usually tell her he was somewhere visiting a friend or at sports practice or some other innocent activity but that I knew where he was and she didn’t need to worry. It was easier that way.
The kids are gone. I think the best pick is to get her to take her meds, so she can live a less troubled life, with more control over her actions and life.
I know that forcing her to erase her memories could seem brutal, but after all, those people are gone, and the trade-off is schizophrenia. Not good.
kinda dark
Spish Spish but sensical. I mean in the end she'd be happier and wouldn't have such a hard time wondering whether or not her grandkids are dead
But without those memories, what is she to herself? Our past makes us who we are, and nothing has happened to me so far in my life where I would want to erase what I’ve been though.
that what i'll do if i was lily, but knowing that lily tried her best to remember her grandchildern, i think is the best to take half her medichine, because she will remember her grandchildern and she can also take care of leo.
@@HaloFTW55 She was 75 when she got taken. That's a full life.
Live another decade or two. I assure you, you'll either have memories you want to erase or an equal amount of regret and doubt about how things could have turned out.
my favorite companion!
Amelia Yu Mine is Arcade Ganon and Lily.
Arcade cus hes actually smarter than everyone else and he feels more of a person than the many well written companions like Boone.
Especially the out of no where "im out of here" after redirecting power from Helios to the Satellites for the Archimedes, also hes easy to activate his quest and you get easy Power Armor and the perk for it, especially when you accidentally kill alot of paladins.
Mine too
LILY SMASH YEAHHAA!!!!
jimmyyyyy
I loved lily as a companion. She was just so ... so sweet and loveable. I myself chose the half Dosis option for lily simply because that was what made her the lily I liked so much. This character all together is just so sweet.. having a loving grandmother that treats you like one of her family embers was just so special
I love how you go over the moral implications of decisions you can make in-game. Keep up the awesome work Oxhorn!
The point you made towards the end of the video where you justified your ultimate decision to allow her to continue her meds at 1/2 doses was for me the sum of the whole vid where we came to know more about her. She may now be a schizophrenic Nightkin, but at one time in the past, she was a human being who loved and was loved; She had memories that in a small way kept a part of her humanity alive that she cherished more than anything else. By allowing her to continue as she had been doing, she was for all intents and purposes keeping the memories of those grandchildren alive, though they have been long- forgotten by the universe itself. Every playthrough I make the same choice as you did, using the same lines of reasoning for the same exact outcome. Choosing any other path for her robs her of the last shred of humanity she desperately clings to, humanity that was stolen from her and countless other victims of the Master's selfish "Vision", humanity I'm most certain she didn't want stolen to begin with.
damn dude you expressed it in a way that really pulled on my heart strings.
dude i cant get enough of ol' Lily and her saying ,,dearie,, :D
It should have ended, "With the cure for the Nightkin, Lily no longer need Dr. Henry's pill. She could now recall her past with clarity. Eventually she went west, look for her family hoping to reconnect with them."
I'm not gonna cry. I'm not gonna cry. I'm not gonna cry.
Goddamn it.
Last time I was this early there wasn't a war
Grandma Lily can get hugs and snuggles from me any day so long as I eventually get a snack from it.
I still love Lily. She's the only grandma that accompanied me in the horrors of the post-apocalypse and always wanted to make sure I was okay. I don't know how they thought up these ideas for New Vegas, but they did and I love them for it.. ^-^
Knowing what I do now about the endings, I agree that half-doses are the best...
... That being said, in my first play through of the game, I had her take her full dosage, worried that taking any less than the doctor prescribed to be dangerous for Lily's mental health. On my first play through it was an unknown, a risk. I had no idea how severe the consequences may or may not have been. For that reason, I do not blame anyone who had her take her full dosage.
I chose to let lily continue to keep taking half doses of her medication. I believe once she found what she was looking for she might switch to a full dose at her own choice. not even the memory snuffing medication could make her forget her grand-kids if she had gotten the right information
I'll tell you what Pard,
I get about as much fun and satisfaction watching your content as I do playing the game.
The insights and imagination you bring to the content you create really fleshes out the game for me, and improves my experience with it.
Thanks Pard.
Obsidian when making fallout 1,2 and NV: lore consistent
Bethesda when making it: who made the Mr.Handys again?
The text said ANGLES INSTEAD OF ANGELS HAHAHA.
Dont know if already discussed. BUt i think that she does not that much believe the dinosaurs alive, more like as she talking to Jimmy, would the kid want to go play on it...
I love the fallout universe so much. Even if fo4 makes little sense most of the time, every other game is so satisfyingly connected. The little details are great.
Geez Oxhorn this one hit me right in the feels
Another great video Ox, can't wait for the next companion video. Maybe a Fallout 3 one?
I'm not crying, you're crying!
Reminds me of my granny RIP she died 3 years ago 93 at the time died from multiple strokes within a month love her so much I hope to be with her one day but till then I continue to share her stories and love with others!
Hey Oxhorn! Just wanted to let you know I’ve watched all of your Fallout NV videos and am almost through all of you Fallout 4 videos. I really enjoy your historical videos that compare the real world to the world of Fallout - perfect example being that of Spectacle Island. Fascinating information! Keep up the good work!
Can you believe that fallout new vegas had an update on Xbox one
Yes.
Well I hope you didn't lose any progress.
Its just an update for the 360 emulator soft, in advanced for the xbox one X launch
Hammer Morty, what did the update do?
What'd the update do. I play on PC so I don't know what the update did
Hah lol i was just watching the history of the fat man.hey ox keep up the good work
I liked the ending where she takes full doses because I personally know what its like to lose people you care about and not want to let go, but with other peoples help you can learn that dwelling on the past just isnt healthy, that's why I loved lily so much, I could relate and connect
I cant not cry when i hear her story, it gets me thinking about my own grandmother and her last years.