So I counted the tick marks on the gun wrong. Also, there is no way to know exactly how many men he killed due to the way the game uses textures--it mirrors them on each side of the gun. So the texture has 38 tick marks, but since it is mirrored, the gun has 76. So he could have killed between 38 or 76 men. Also, the difference between 1918 and 2044 is 126 years, not 63. Thanks for clearing up the BoS label on the folder--this was due to a texture mod I had installed. Finally, we're forced to believe 1 of 2 options--that Festus replaced all delivery drivers, and continues to deliver the soda to machines to this day (which requires me to suspend too much of my disbelief, since he is an animatronic toy in a box), or that the company bought another, unnamed experimental robot truck driver (at the exact same time they bought Festus) which we never see in any trucks, nor anywhere else in any Fallout game. I'm not satisfied with either explanation, honestly.
Hey Ox, If the Sunset Sarsaparilla Company was founded in 1918, and the Nuka Cola Company was founded in 2044, then the SS company is 126 years older than the NC company, not just 63 years older as you've said.
Um Ox also... the recipe for the sunset sarsparilla came from a family. It is very possible the date shown on the sarsparillas is the date of the recipe, not the date when mass production started. Thinking about it this way it all makes sense.
I love how Festus is riddled with bullet holes, showing that over the years many folks have found 50 stars and went to claim the prize but when they found out what it was they shot poor Festus.
I'm not sure how Thomas appears, i think it's either collect a set amount of star bottle caps or have atleast 1 in your inventory by the time you get to Nipton
I encountered him way earlier in Sloan. That's where he approached me bout the Caps. After Sloan I went to check on the Major of Nipton. I had the Jackals gang fight. Blew em all at once with Dynamite. Ran to Nipton's entrance, but only noticed Jacklyn, no gunfight. Just learned about that here in the video. So now I'll be going back to that save point and look for Thomas lying in the wasteland behind where Jacklyn came running up to me. I didn't put too much thought into the 'someone chased/attacked her' dialog back then. Amazing how after all these years, NV is still holding my heart hostage.
I enjoy the results of the quest. Even after collecting the 1500 caps, the laser gun, and badges you still feel cheated by the company. I think it's that kind of roleplaying and storytelling that makes this game re-playable over and over again.
also that the idea of a cereal-box tier "collect them all" advertising ploy is considered by nearly everyone post-war to actually be important. fallout is great for those weird mistranslations in history (like the kings)
Hi, sorry for being off topic. I'm an aspiring animator and I've recently released a Fallout New Vegas animation that took me 5 months to do, but UA-cam doesn't promote my videos so I have to do it myself. I'd be glad if you come and have a look :)
The reason for the Robco robots in the Repconn Facility is not a lore mistake, it's because the was a hostile takeover by Robco, and the robots got sent in to help with security, it's all in the terminals in the Repconn Offices.
the sunset sarsparilla recipe was an old family recipe that was created in 1918... thats why the barkeeper had to promise to not change the recipe and thats why the company says since 1918
It makes sense, but it also means that the bartender did kill the man to avoid fulfilling his end of the agreement. This also assumes that since it wasn't mentioned in the story that festus told, that the bartender had to have gotten that information before he killed the man and took the recipe. Then again, the bartender could have made it up to make the company look older.
@Sith'ari Azithoth yeah, I should have said probably means or something to indicate that I was providing another theory. I totally went down the dark path with my thought though. Just seemed to fit nicely in my mind.
I live in Vegas and went to our museum, and there is alot of historical shit like the old mob families like the Van Graffs , Nellis Airforcebase legends, hooverdam conspiracies aswell as facts and marylin Monroe and Elvis secrets and debuts here back in the hay day Facts and legends also how we got a stripclub here that’s so old that it’s backed up by the old Wild West laws that allow it the only strip club to sell alcohol and fully nude girls , (which is illegal now : clubs can only serve alcohol in a topless joints) but the point of what I’m saying is there was a soda company here back at the end of the Wild wild West days the flavor was sarsaparilla something and the story goes exact the buyer was to not change the recipe and in end (he did) and the owner found out so to protect his family legacy did the deed well, so many believe is what I learned the buyer disappeared with the owner never to be seen , the company didn’t live long for health reasons years into business, many people got sick after drinking the softdrink after a few years , you know like how we drink Coca Cola. To this day it’s still mystery where they went. it’s crazy how Fallout adds real historic events in their video games .
Logical Phallusy Erm . . . what? I didn't watch the entire video, but didn't hear anything where he slandered Obsidian in the parts I did watch. And even if he did say some negative things, at least he's talking about the game. Better than no one saying anything and New Vegas being forgotten.
Logical Phallusy Fair enough, but I don't see how blundering on a few minor lore points is a big enough deal to say he's slandering Obsidian. As for the Fallout 4 thing, I've only just recently found this channel, and if he did make that video, then yeah, he's a bit of a dick. I'll find it and watch it for myself in a bit.
Logical Phallusy Dude, I'm just trying to be positive. This is a fun video about Fallout lore, not an informational documentary on historical topics. Watching this video over again, I don't see how him nitpicking or screwing up on a few minor facts is so detrimental to Obsidian's image that he is a "slanderer/hypocrite" who deserves outrage. I also don't see how him asking for Patreon donations makes him worse than someone who does this kinda thing for free either. Guy's gotta make money somehow. I think you're taking this way too seriously. Obsidian definitely doesn't care, they've left the Fallout franchise behind. They certainly don't need you wearing out your hands keyboard warrior-ing in their defense. Be happy that people make these type of videos at all. And enjoy said videos, rather than trying to rally people against creators and being negative towards a positive comment.
Pretty sure the lore basis for this quest was the Indian/star design found on some Tootsie Pop wrappers. The urban legend was that if you collected 10, you could redeem them at stores for a free Tootsie Pop. It was such a pervasive myth that the stores just started honoring it.
I always thought chef's hats and a copy of Martha Bakes would turn me into Gordon Ramsay. No wonder they kicked me out of that restaurant. [Survival 45/60] Hey there chef. Was wondering if you could hire me for the sizzle sizzle. [FAILED] What the hell are you doing in the kitchen? Get out, now!
Consider: the established date around the factory is the date the saloon was established, technically being the start of the company that produces the drink, even if the drink wouldn't be produced for several decades.
I don't think Festus was the robot they reference in the computers. Remember that guy who gave you the quest mentions that someone keeps refilling the vending machines and the computer in the loading bay mentions a robot is already doing the deliveries. So there is a robot wandering the desert refilling the machines and comeing back to the factory every once in a while to restock. So unless it's cut content, there may be a robot filled with bottles wandering out there and no one noticed.
I agree with this. You don't even need to see the robot doing the filling of the machines, it's enough to hand wave it away. Although now I kinda want to go back to playing New Vegas to see if the Sunset Sarsaparilla machines actually do refill.
Chad Kreutzer just reloaded the game myself to see the same thing, ir even to see if maybe I can find some hint of a wandering delivery robot... it will be an interesting hunt.
If I remember correctly, he was, for instance, using a mod in his 3 playthrough that improved contrast. Most likely this was something similar, since it is a visual medium, after all.
@@KK-qm1mr yeah probably a texture pack. I wonder why he uses mods like that for lore videos. He should just use stability and stuff like project neveada
When Malcolm talked about the Sunset Sarsaparilla Star caps, and mentioned Festus guarding a treasure, I was under the impression that Festus was a ghoul, given his age. I ended up laughing when I actually saw Festus for myself.
First time I played New Vegas I thought Allen Marks was going to find me and attack after I picked up enough star bottle caps. Hahahah. Really awesome writing this game!!
In my 1st gameplay of this game also it being my 1st fallout game I thought some kind of great cursed knight from old world is guarding great treasure and only those bottle caps can help him to retire and end the curse.I really didn't know why i thought that while playing a post apocalyptic rpg game but when i found it I was so dumbfounded finding a goddamn Akinator knockoff.
Except she's reading a pick your own adventure but telling you all the endings "If we turn our back, she shoots us! If we tell her we know, she shoots us!"
Oxhorn has been a voice of entertainment n companionship to me for years. If I'm up late gaming n feeling lonely, I'll put on ox to get me through the dark hours.
Keep in mind that within Festes' speech, he has a legal obligation to say that Nuka Cola is great drink. It wouldn't surprise me if Badburton forced Sunset to change the story to make it sound like Nuka-Cola has been and always will be the greatest drink on the market. Even going so far as to try to change the past. This is a man so diluted, he tried to beat death and live forever. Clearly a man not within normal faculties.
He also locked the door on the guy I can’t remember the name of and got too far into writing this to discard it and check the video for his name Edit: Alan
@@sashimicheetah and Victor was a securiton too, which was made by robco. It even says that the president was talking to Robco about a new robot that he bought. It must be Victor
I just watched a 50 minute video About a drink *A Fictional Drink* A year late but whatever, never had this amount of likes It’s always awesome to see a comment by a fan get more likes than the pinned
Did anyone die laughing when they saw the little sheriff badge on the corpse? He be like: I may be a terrible person and about to shoot myself, BUT GODDAMMIT I WON THAT PRIZE
thankfully Allen became the prize for his murderous scavenging hunt, so SS can save their "Steenking Badges", i'll take the gun, caps and all the sass i can carry, i feel sorry for anyone who comes looking for the prize after my characters leave, as they will get a piss poor consolation prize for their efforts.
@@UltimateGamerCC I assume SS means Sole Survivor, and thats not the FNV character. The Sole Survivor is the Fo4 character, the FNV character is simply "The Courier" Fo1: Vault Dweller Fo2: Chosen One Fo3: Lone Wanderer FNV: (The) Courier Fo4: Sole Survivor and apart from these main ones, Fallout 76: The Resident Fallout Tactics: The Warrior Fallout: BoS: The Initiate (never released) Van Buren: The Prisoner these are the titles to the player characters according to the fallout fandom wiki.
This is one of my favorite side story by far, from the prank that stupid machine gave me, to the last message Alan recorded. Somehow even though he killed lots of ppl, i just can’t help but feel a lil bit of sadness for him.
He talked to me while I was in a collapsed building about to snipe Cook-Cook's brahmin. Let's just say I walked away with some steak, a head, and some rare bottle caps
Malcom approached me atop the Helios one station as I activated the death laser it was so bright I couldn’t even see him I thought he was apart of the quest and simply appeared out of nowhere I was rolling in laughter
Father Walrus I kind of think that he would please tell me don't fall for the game horseshoes basic same exact things call 21 or Blackjack iif you call it that
21:45 Good remark on Stating General Atomics did the Mr Handy robot series, however, according to the lore, mr Handy were made in PARTNERSHIP between General Atomics and RobCo, General Atomics being the manufacturer while Robco provided the programmation for the robots of most General Atomics products, including even Liberty Prime.
I never knew that, but that makes sense. I think legally that would also allow Robco to manufacture and utilize the Mr. Handy whenever they wanted too.
It's possible that the company really was founded in 1918 while the drink itself wasn't created until after Nuka-Cola came into being. Using a real world example, the NES - Nintendo's first video game system - was created in 1984, but the company itself started in 1889. So, Nintendo - really old, *the* Nintendo - not so old.
Yeah, but they didn't call themselves Nintendo Video Games or something like that. It's odd that a company called Sunset Sarsaparilla would spend 126 years in operation before getting the idea that they should possibly get into the business of maybe, possibly making sarsaparilla as their one and only product.
What if Festus - can actually walk and is an evil fucker in discuise? What if after learning the story - Allen just went "FUCK IT" and ventured into the factory, which triggered Festus to go after him, locking him away at the storehouse as soon as he entered? What if Festus - existed prior to the whole Star Caps and was the one, who originally started it? What if he is one of the most powerful robots out there and one of the smartest minds in the Wasteland? DON'T WAIT TO FIGURE IT OUT THE HARD WAY - VAULT-TEC, THE FUTURE IS TODAY, WE HAVE ANSWERS IF YOU HAVE THE CAPS
9:00 I love how ox says he knows alot about the caps even though hes not a collector. Even though he literally just said he used to collect them. Why yes ox, it appears his memory still works even though he doesn't collect them anymore.
The "New Toy" couldn't have been Festus, because the "New Toy" is part of the distribution network. Festus is immobile. With it being a Cowboy Robot, it has to be Victor. Victor was made by RobCo, after all.
I believe ive solved the riddle. Its absolutely not victor, since he works for Mr House. Theres also no real reason for a company thats already working directly with robco to invite Mr House in as a middleman. I think based on the information we can assume that Festus came AFTER the newfangled robot. They had already tripled their sales before even coming up with the idea for a contest to begin with. Wikipedia says this happened around 2077. So if by 2077 the other robots were already operating, and mister handy was 1st invented in 2037, theres a pretty good chance it could have been mister handy. Even more interesting is that mister handy didn’t gain popularity until at least 2042 when it was used to help clean up after a large earthquake in mexico. So if by 2077 sunset sarsaparilla is cranking out bottles, and just 35 years before that this new robot with ALL the necessary features was popularized...... i think we can safely assume that mister handy is this “newfangled new robot”. I think when that guy says everything was being “singlehandedly” taken over by a robot i don’t think he literally meant 1 single robot. I believe he was referring to a single model of robot. Maybe mister handy does packaging and delivery and the protectrons are considered security and not part of actual manufacturing or delivery. In that scenario mr handy could logically be considered to be the newfangled robot. Mr handy is also clearly the most versatile of the robots, he can shoot, he floats over any terrain, he cleans, he bottles, and apparently he repairs water leaks and all sorts of other things. Victor on the other hand doesn’t do half of that stuff, he’s basically just a stalker with creepy smile and a gun. I think it’s basically confirmed that the “newfangled robots” have to be mister handy, because everything coincides, even the years and their functionality. The same can’t be said of any other robot models.
@@alexcrowder1673 From a Business-To-Business standpoint it does make sense for Mr House to want to middleman his own robot. Crazy entrepreneur working with larger corporations tends to pull that kind of shit.
Thomas Davis For mr house of course it would make sense, but why would sunset pay mr house extra money for a robot they can buy cheaper from robco directly? They are already in business with robco. It would be utterly illogical. It would be like target buying its goods from walmart instead of a wholesaler.
Why are y’all assuming the new toy and the cowboy robot are one in the same? There are a hundred robots at the place. They started with one robot, which lead to the reworking of the distribution network, and then ordered more. It isn’t even mentioned in the same message as the cowboy robot
Its perfect because this collect-o-thon of bottle caps was probably meant for kids, so why would chem fiends, raiders, or mercenaries expect anything actually useful.
This whole quest felt like a Dark Mirror episode, A loser who live in a futuristic wasteland, heard a rumour about a unique bottlecap hunting game, and realize this is probably the only thing that can gave his life a meaning, a goal that he can chase for, so he leave behind his mother, the person who company him in his life. And as time goes on, he start to became a part of the wasteland, became a wanderer who would do anything just for his goal even killing, and after he finally got enough of it, he goes to the factory, gave festus all his cap, and go to receive his life goal, and after realizing the thing he has been chasing his whole life is just a bunch of toy medal, feeling all dispersed, he ended his own life in shame
Dutch They were actually Jackal Gang members... you don’t run into vipers until you pass through Nipton. Sooooo you failed at correcting them either way
You’re inspiring me to play RPGs differently. I now focus on the context of the game instead of running and gunning and trying to beat the game. When you play New Vegas like this it makes the game 10x better
So, Mr Handies in a RobCo facility is getting the Lore wrong? "Mister Handy robots are utility robots created as part of a joint project between General Atomics International and RobCo Industries." Obsidian has many employees who worked on the original Fallout games, one of them even said in a Reddit post that they did use the old Fallout Bible and old documents for refreshing their memories, which sometimes lead to conflicts due to the changes Bethesda made to the Fallout Lore. That also explains the 1918 vs 2044, originally Nuka Cola was just a parody on Coca Cola, which was founded in 1886, Obsidians fallout veterans propably remembered that. Now Bethesda themself fucked up on their own founding date too, watch the Fallout 4 Intro, in around 1 minute, if those two are supposed to be the great great grandfathers wife and son, then there is a Nuka Cola Bottle in 1944/45.
Logical Phallusy He didn't really "blast" Obsidian for that. He just offered a possible explanation for what happened in a calm and matter-of-fact manner (even though we found out that was incorrect).
_"All the folders are labeled _*_BoS History._*_ "_ _"I think Obsidian reused assets from Fallout 3 and slapped a Sarsaparilla logo on it."_ Nope, that's just the result of playing with too many mods. Vanilla New Vegas doesn't have this problem.
Seeing as New Vegas was made by Obsidian, the people who originally made the Fallout series, I'd say it's more canon than 3 or Nuka World. Bethesda have never given that much regard to lore consistency anyway. Lest we forget the ghoul in the fridge quest.
@@daretowatch2133 And many of the developers and designers went on to make New Vegas. Besides, the source of the collaboration with RobCo comes from Bethesda, in the Museum of Technology in Fallout 3.
It’s absolutely more Canon than Fallout 3 and 4. Fallout New Vegas has people that actually worked on 1/2. Fallout 3 and 4 had nobody from the original games because they think so highly of themselves.
@@alekinjacobs9991 One character doesn't mean anything yes it proves and shows connection to the series but they fuck up everything stop whiteknighting
@@rabidwombat1912 Even the og developers made retcons from fo1 to fo2. Fonv is a shitty game that capitalizes on being closely intertwined to fo1 and fo2 due to location
Sounds like somebody forgot all the minutes wasted looking through sunset sasperilla crates, complaining about a visual change on a folder made by his own mod, and talking about a fresh apple. Going over every tiny detail was a waste of time and I had to constantly mash fast forward whenever he brought up some more useless info
I absolutely love this quest, when you stop and think about it, it makes complete sense compared to the Nuka world "Hidden Cappy". It's a contest meant for kids that adults in the wasteland are treasure hunting for, of course the prize isn't meant to be big. Everything from the deputy stars to the suicide note was perfect.
Just proves how desperate the wastelanders are if they’re willing to kill for a contest prize for literal children. Common sense would immediately tell us that it would be a waste of time and resources, but not these poor bastards.
what do you mean? the hidden cappy quest was to meet John c. Bradburton where you had to go around the rides to find them using glasses. both are just as childish as the other.
Revisiting this game during the Covid 19 - 21 thing. You are so good at the tour guide and narration of this game and the explanations. Really helps on road blocks.
It would be cool if the drink was real, and had a similar creation and unique story. Plus the Star Caps thing. I think if someone was actually to come out with it, it could really get big.
23:28 maybe if you didn't use texture mods and play the game vanilla you'd notice that the folder is actually not what you said it was. Vanilla textures folder is a clean, WHITE, folder with just the Sunset Sarsaparilla logo on it. So really, the guy behind the texture pack re-used the fallout 3 texture. Just saying.
@@GOWvMatchstick I'm just specifying that if you want to talk about the lore in the game which contains visual clues maybe don't use mods that change said visual clues lmao, or don't cover them at all if you really really want to use mods.
32:39 that poster may be based on an ACTUAL ad that campaigned during the Cold War named "Bert the Turtle". It bascially told children(or anyone watching) to be prepared and seek shelter or find somewhere safe to hide, in case the Soviet Union ever did launch an assault on the U.S.
We watched this in school. For history's sake. If you see the flash from a nuclear detonation, crouch down under a thin piece of wood and cover your neck. You won't get dead! I guess people needed to have something to do to not feel helpless. But geez.
The Outlet (On My Chest) I'm only now beginning to understand the constant panic people felt when LIGHTNING could be mistaken for that flash, how a brownout was pretty convincing evidence for an EMP effect...
I wish that if you had the Wild Wasteland trait, you have an event where as you're leaving Festus dissappears with some message in his booth saying "See you around, pardner." I wonder if someone made a mod of it happening.
A fourth possibility regarding the year Sunset Sarsaparilla was founded could be that the company was founded in 1918, but their first product wasn’t the soda. Or as we see sometimes in our own time, companies really stretch to make that date as far back as possible to create credibility. Maybe the same happened here.
Aaron Green i suppose you are right, i just kinda thought that a fictional business started before divergence would be fair game, but maybe it just fucks with shit.
I secretly wanted Festus to turn out to be Allen Marks. Like maybe someone hacked him and gave him a new personality but he pretends to be good ole Festus. Like you hear robotic laughing as you walk around the factory, then come back to the entrance to find he's gone.
I remember collecting those wrappers as a kid because my mom said they were special and there is a prize for collecting alot. She played my like a damn fiddle.
At 21:40 I feel that the founding date of sunset sarsaparilla is actually the founding date of the saloon, which is a possibility that was missed out in this theory
OHHH, so the Star Caps were basically like the Tootsie Roll lollipops, I remember as a kid everyone would tell you that the Indian shooting an arrow with a star on the wrapper could be mailed in for a free lollipop. Turns out it wasn't true but that's amazing if Obsidian did that in reference to the tootsie roll pops.
I was just about to post this same story. When I was a kid the local store owner would give a free lolli-pop in exchange for the star wrapper. That was 1984 or so.
The developers confirmed that the Tootsie Roll Lollipops was their insperation for the Sunset star legend, as he himself fell for the Tootsie legend as well.
As a kid I heard about the lollipop stars and was told you needed 5 of them. Supposedly it worked for a couple friends of mine but I never could find the 5th star
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See, I don't know anything about this game's mechanics or anything because I've never played, and I am sure there is a reason for it, but hearing someone say they "put on some overalls and used a magazine" to open a locked door is the most random and funniest thing ever.
Dirk Was Always Here Equipping overalls increases your Perception stat which affects your lockpicking skill. Reading a magazine temporarily increases an associated skill.
it gives you a minor boost to a skill if you wear certaingear(so for lockpicking this is a overall for some reason, usually it makes more sense) and reading a magazine on a subject gives you a minor buff to it aswell for a while. Locks are unlocked with lockpicking which goes from 1-100 but has thresholds at 25 50 75 and 100. as in you need more than that to pick the lock. so sometimes you need the litlle buff. At least it's not as weird as shooting a mini nuke at a rat and finding a bottle of purified water in the bits that landed near you.
haha fur sure. some clothes will increase stats and you can find items that are mags that give a temp boost to stats as well. you could also find books that would permanently increase other stats
I know i am late but allan marks couldnt kill himself with a laser pistol since it doesnt make you bleed, it uses heat. That means someone else mustve shot him in the head and placed his pistol near him, also- why would he shoot himself in the head during a sentence, probably with a stealth gun like a 22. Lr
I'm sure that the distribution robot and Festus are two different things. Though the conversation with the guy who first explains the star caps mentions that new sunset saspirilla keep appearing in the vending machines. That means the distribution robot must still be operating and restocking the machines.
Could it be Victor? Since the president of Sunset Sarsaparilla liked the Cowboy theme. We don't know about his past, either. Though it is just speculation, probably I'm wrong.
I always get approached by Malcolm immediately after picking up the blue star cap in Jenny's Skydiving just outside of Goodsprings. The "New-fangled" robot the guy is talking about could have been an Assaultron, even though those weren't a thing until Fallout 4.
Fun Fact: There is a miniature version of the sunset sasaparilla empty bottle in the room with the very hard locked door, Mr. Brody's room... why is there a tiny bottle in there? no reason but its a cool thing to display in your player home.
I do think this whole thing is a reference to the old rumor of special wrappers on Tootsie Pops. Certain wrappers were said to have a special design on them and that if you found them you could get a prize from them. I know I heard that rumor alot as a kid even into my high school years.
Wait so you guys didn't get the Tootsie Roll treasure? I did. It was very nice. Shiny. It still does my taxes for me and turns coke into pepsi. Which isn't all that useful because snorting pepsi hurts like hell.
Speaking on the out of order sign on the wall. I would theorize that there was a vending machine there at one point, but due to all the human workers being replaced it would have been removed.
So I counted the tick marks on the gun wrong. Also, there is no way to know exactly how many men he killed due to the way the game uses textures--it mirrors them on each side of the gun. So the texture has 38 tick marks, but since it is mirrored, the gun has 76. So he could have killed between 38 or 76 men.
Also, the difference between 1918 and 2044 is 126 years, not 63.
Thanks for clearing up the BoS label on the folder--this was due to a texture mod I had installed.
Finally, we're forced to believe 1 of 2 options--that Festus replaced all delivery drivers, and continues to deliver the soda to machines to this day (which requires me to suspend too much of my disbelief, since he is an animatronic toy in a box), or that the company bought another, unnamed experimental robot truck driver (at the exact same time they bought Festus) which we never see in any trucks, nor anywhere else in any Fallout game. I'm not satisfied with either explanation, honestly.
I love your videos, only watched 2 so far but oh my I have so many to view. Thank you for this! This is exactly what I wanted.
Hey Ox, If the Sunset Sarsaparilla Company was founded in 1918, and the Nuka Cola Company was founded in 2044, then the SS company is 126 years older than the NC company, not just 63 years older as you've said.
Um Ox also... the recipe for the sunset sarsparilla came from a family. It is very possible the date shown on the sarsparillas is the date of the recipe, not the date when mass production started. Thinking about it this way it all makes sense.
Oxhorn i just notice at 19:35 the quest failed legend of the stars, maybe they wanted an alternate option in this quest but drop it in the end?
Oxhorn please do a video about every wasteland creature is mutated of
I love how Festus is riddled with bullet holes, showing that over the years many folks have found 50 stars and went to claim the prize but when they found out what it was they shot poor Festus.
Or, they found out that they didn't have *enough* Star caps and shot Festus, since he never gives the number you need to collect.
Poor Festus.
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I'd have probably dismantled the fucking robot. Waste of my time.
@@ChanMan-mm7fe you'd get more sarsaparilla stars
I desperately wanted Festus to be missing once the quest completed...
Yeah, like he scurried off or something, and idk maybe he could be a random encounter in some other game, just a idea.
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oh god like Night of the Living Dummy or something haha that would have definitely upped the ante.
i know XD i was watching it being "ok when he gose back the dummys going to be missing i just know it! >
Same here
I didn’t see the fire-fight, I only learned about it after turning around and seeing Thomas chasing me into Nipton to tell me he was almost murdered
I think it because when you fought a group of Jackals gang, you get close to Nipton and it's trigger the encounter
I'm not sure how Thomas appears, i think it's either collect a set amount of star bottle caps or have atleast 1 in your inventory by the time you get to Nipton
I encountered him way earlier in Sloan. That's where he approached me bout the Caps. After Sloan I went to check on the Major of Nipton. I had the Jackals gang fight. Blew em all at once with Dynamite. Ran to Nipton's entrance, but only noticed Jacklyn, no gunfight.
Just learned about that here in the video. So now I'll be going back to that save point and look for Thomas lying in the wasteland behind where Jacklyn came running up to me. I didn't put too much thought into the 'someone chased/attacked her' dialog back then. Amazing how after all these years, NV is still holding my heart hostage.
That happened to me
Me too
I enjoy the results of the quest. Even after collecting the 1500 caps, the laser gun, and badges you still feel cheated by the company. I think it's that kind of roleplaying and storytelling that makes this game re-playable over and over again.
On an evil character I picked up the deputy stars, and started roleplaying as some kind of serial killer who'd leave a star on all his victims.
New vegas Ai reaches sentience and tracks down a serial killer
That is literally the opposite of the silver shroud in fallout 4
In Nuka World, there was an actual Serial killer who left caps on the eyes of his victims like the old tales of the river of sticks
Wardenclyffe 2302 You mean the River Styx?
@@OfficialGeneralGrant no he obviously means the river twygz
RIP Allen Marks. Suffocated to death while carrying the most powerful laser pistol in Nevada in a room with wooden walls...
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Steve Palpatine Allen marks : am i a joke to you ??
He forgot how to noclip
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Surrounded by bottlecaps....
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"Each one has well over a hundred bottle caps!"
**opens crate with 84 caps while speaking**
I know right lol
JustAPseudonym lol i was right at the part
So glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that xD
LOL yeah, I caught that, too. Oops.
Nah i dont need caps i need guns ....lol i got 3.9m caps because of a glitch
Telling tale of an “immortal man” who is actually a humanoid robot is fantastic writing.
also that the idea of a cereal-box tier "collect them all" advertising ploy is considered by nearly everyone post-war to actually be important. fallout is great for those weird mistranslations in history (like the kings)
@@cornonthekobi in the king's case, was it really that far off from reality?
is it? or are you just easily amused?
@@thewardenofoz3324 probably just the second one.
@@thewardenofoz3324 must be a miserable existence, considering yourself too smart and sophisticated to enjoy things
The amount of detail put into such an obscure side quest is astounding
Such as the bullet holes in festus from wastelanders who had 50 stars coming for the prize just to find those
Hi, sorry for being off topic. I'm an aspiring animator and I've recently released a Fallout New Vegas animation that took me 5 months to do, but UA-cam doesn't promote my videos so I have to do it myself. I'd be glad if you come and have a look :)
Good old non-bethesda world building.
Its damn impressive for something most players look over.
4:47 "This day couldn't get any worse"
*sees bandits in the distance ahead*.
lolo9873 He always does that actually
I was dying at that.
At least its not raining
It can't rain all the time.
Robert Joseph "It can't rain all the time"...is that from The Crow movies?
There's almost 400 sheriff badges in that backroom. Yes, I collected them all.
I AM THE LAW
400?
I just found like 250 Sheriff Badges
🤔...I got 600 from that room
@@Icecastles4000 Disco Elysium reference?
@@kerentomoterenomecotemazaf1767 nope
The reason for the Robco robots in the Repconn Facility is not a lore mistake, it's because the was a hostile takeover by Robco, and the robots got sent in to help with security, it's all in the terminals in the Repconn Offices.
The Mr. Handy robots were developed by Robco and General Atomics as a collaborative project.
And the Mr. Tour guide tells you at the final parts that robco owns repconn
the sunset sarsparilla recipe was an old family recipe that was created in 1918... thats why the barkeeper had to promise to not change the recipe and thats why the company says since 1918
Wow that totally makes sense. Ty.
It makes sense, but it also means that the bartender did kill the man to avoid fulfilling his end of the agreement. This also assumes that since it wasn't mentioned in the story that festus told, that the bartender had to have gotten that information before he killed the man and took the recipe. Then again, the bartender could have made it up to make the company look older.
@Sith'ari Azithoth yeah, I should have said probably means or something to indicate that I was providing another theory. I totally went down the dark path with my thought though. Just seemed to fit nicely in my mind.
I live in Vegas and went to our museum, and there is alot of historical shit like the old mob families like the Van Graffs , Nellis Airforcebase legends, hooverdam conspiracies aswell as facts and marylin Monroe and Elvis secrets and debuts here back in the hay day Facts and legends also how we got a stripclub here that’s so old that it’s backed up by the old Wild West laws that allow it the only strip club to sell alcohol and fully nude girls , (which is illegal now : clubs can only serve alcohol in a topless joints) but the point of what I’m saying is there was a soda company here back at the end of the Wild wild West days the flavor was sarsaparilla something and the story goes exact the buyer was to not change the recipe and in end (he did) and the owner found out so to protect his family legacy did the deed well, so many believe is what I learned the buyer disappeared with the owner never to be seen , the company didn’t live long for health reasons years into business, many people got sick after drinking the softdrink after a few years , you know like how we drink Coca Cola. To this day it’s still mystery where they went. it’s crazy how Fallout adds real historic events in their video games .
Miranda Leal
Please comment a link to this. I’m super interested in reading about it. Thanks!
33:11 that moment when you realized you missed the bottle caps in the trash can like 5 years ago when you last played.
Or instantly shot the mr handy cleaner/turn him off with robo expert
It fills me with a massive amount of joy that people still actively make videos about New Vegas.
Try out Alchestbreach.
Beartrap Dan ~ I love him.
Logical Phallusy Erm . . . what? I didn't watch the entire video, but didn't hear anything where he slandered Obsidian in the parts I did watch. And even if he did say some negative things, at least he's talking about the game. Better than no one saying anything and New Vegas being forgotten.
Logical Phallusy Fair enough, but I don't see how blundering on a few minor lore points is a big enough deal to say he's slandering Obsidian. As for the Fallout 4 thing, I've only just recently found this channel, and if he did make that video, then yeah, he's a bit of a dick. I'll find it and watch it for myself in a bit.
Logical Phallusy Dude, I'm just trying to be positive. This is a fun video about Fallout lore, not an informational documentary on historical topics. Watching this video over again, I don't see how him nitpicking or screwing up on a few minor facts is so detrimental to Obsidian's image that he is a "slanderer/hypocrite" who deserves outrage. I also don't see how him asking for Patreon donations makes him worse than someone who does this kinda thing for free either. Guy's gotta make money somehow. I think you're taking this way too seriously. Obsidian definitely doesn't care, they've left the Fallout franchise behind. They certainly don't need you wearing out your hands keyboard warrior-ing in their defense. Be happy that people make these type of videos at all. And enjoy said videos, rather than trying to rally people against creators and being negative towards a positive comment.
Pretty sure the lore basis for this quest was the Indian/star design found on some Tootsie Pop wrappers. The urban legend was that if you collected 10, you could redeem them at stores for a free Tootsie Pop. It was such a pervasive myth that the stores just started honoring it.
It increases sales. And if the store sells them, they know they'll sell more.
I spent so long trying to find stars on those things as a kid xD sm time wasted.
"Putting on some overhauls, and reading a magazine, I was able to unlock this door."
I love video game logic.
Overalls
I always thought chef's hats and a copy of Martha Bakes would turn me into Gordon Ramsay. No wonder they kicked me out of that restaurant.
[Survival 45/60] Hey there chef. Was wondering if you could hire me for the sizzle sizzle.
[FAILED] What the hell are you doing in the kitchen? Get out, now!
@@hirokatsuvictor8755 Lmao, was that speech check in the game or did you just make that up? Either way, that was hilarious. Bravo
Bro he said that exact sentence as I read it lol😂
Consider: the established date around the factory is the date the saloon was established, technically being the start of the company that produces the drink, even if the drink wouldn't be produced for several decades.
I like this theory!
Nah all Oxhorn can do is say Obsidian doesn't get the lore right
Gotta love the Bethesda shills, remember, this is the same dude who’s “Hyped” for 76
@@andryuu_2000 poor obsidian plagued with 5he fact that bethesda is the worst people to manage lore
@@aslightlysanescientist3874 ^
I don't think Festus was the robot they reference in the computers. Remember that guy who gave you the quest mentions that someone keeps refilling the vending machines and the computer in the loading bay mentions a robot is already doing the deliveries. So there is a robot wandering the desert refilling the machines and comeing back to the factory every once in a while to restock.
So unless it's cut content, there may be a robot filled with bottles wandering out there and no one noticed.
you never know they said it was cowboy themed robot, maybe it was victor filling the machines
robo well he does wander and he is a "new" robot... but I am leaning towards cut content.
I agree with this. You don't even need to see the robot doing the filling of the machines, it's enough to hand wave it away. Although now I kinda want to go back to playing New Vegas to see if the Sunset Sarsaparilla machines actually do refill.
Chad Kreutzer just reloaded the game myself to see the same thing, ir even to see if maybe I can find some hint of a wandering delivery robot... it will be an interesting hunt.
Maybe it's some sort of robot like the one you got to search in a quest someone gives you on goodneighbour in Fallout 4
I love how Oxhorn ruthlessly murders Malcolm, and in the next breath calls Allen a ruthless murderer.
Lol
23:58 the brotherhood text is from your mod. In the vanilla game there is no brotherhood sticker
I don't know why he would use mods when doing lore videos.
@@henrytownshed5304 Like Performance,Bug fix and cut content resoration is fine. but why texture
@@henrytownshed5304 so he can bash obsidian, lmfao
If I remember correctly, he was, for instance, using a mod in his 3 playthrough that improved contrast. Most likely this was something similar, since it is a visual medium, after all.
@@KK-qm1mr yeah probably a texture pack. I wonder why he uses mods like that for lore videos. He should just use stability and stuff like project neveada
27:47
As much as I hate to say it, that’s not a bottlecap press, that’s a milling machine. It would make for a terrible press.
Make some high ass end caps.
Oxy : "If we turn our back she attacks."
Girl : "Sucker!"
Well, she's technically right 🤷♂️
So I said sucker I hardly know her
Lollipop
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@@matrixmirage2148 87u78⁸⁹
When Malcolm talked about the Sunset Sarsaparilla Star caps, and mentioned Festus guarding a treasure, I was under the impression that Festus was a ghoul, given his age. I ended up laughing when I actually saw Festus for myself.
First time I played New Vegas I thought Allen Marks was going to find me and attack after I picked up enough star bottle caps. Hahahah. Really awesome writing this game!!
@@batcaveloner1383
I thought the same thing when I first started playing this game, too.
@@michaelrameyjr.5468 i didn`t because i watched this video a long time ago before i got new vegas and spoiled myself on some things in the game
I though it was Festus from Warhammer
In my 1st gameplay of this game also it being my 1st fallout game I thought some kind of great cursed knight from old world is guarding great treasure and only those bottle caps can help him to retire and end the curse.I really didn't know why i thought that while playing a post apocalyptic rpg game but when i found it I was so dumbfounded finding a goddamn Akinator knockoff.
Festus reminds me of those characters in Courage The Cowardly Dog that made you feel wrong for looking at.
......the Indian doctor or the general guy......
@@rokkfel4999 All of the above
@@TheCreedGames1 what about that inperfect thing in that episofe
Love that show
This was so worth the watch
This whole quest feels like collecting box stamps for school drives and then not even getting the bike at the end
10/10 would recommend
Watching this before falling asleep has the same feeling of when my mom would read me a book before sleeping when i was 4
10/10
Except she's reading a pick your own adventure but telling you all the endings "If we turn our back, she shoots us! If we tell her we know, she shoots us!"
So true..
HEY THATS MINE GET YOUR OWNE
Oxhorn has been a voice of entertainment n companionship to me for years.
If I'm up late gaming n feeling lonely, I'll put on ox to get me through the dark hours.
Keep in mind that within Festes' speech, he has a legal obligation to say that Nuka Cola is great drink. It wouldn't surprise me if Badburton forced Sunset to change the story to make it sound like Nuka-Cola has been and always will be the greatest drink on the market. Even going so far as to try to change the past. This is a man so diluted, he tried to beat death and live forever. Clearly a man not within normal faculties.
I think that "newfangled" robot still walks the wastes today, refilling the machines with Sunset Saspirilla.
My theory is it's Victor! Think about it, he's a cowboy and you see him everywhere.
@@sashimicheetah but he works for mr house
He also locked the door on the guy I can’t remember the name of and got too far into writing this to discard it and check the video for his name
Edit: Alan
If victor is the robot then when Alan marks found the prize room victor locked the door on him for him to suffocate
@@sashimicheetah and Victor was a securiton too, which was made by robco. It even says that the president was talking to Robco about a new robot that he bought. It must be Victor
I just watched a 50 minute video
About a drink
*A Fictional Drink*
A year late but whatever, never had this amount of likes
It’s always awesome to see a comment by a fan get more likes than the pinned
Me too buddy, me too.
I don't even play this game. I still watched the whole video.
Jane Foster
Same here (dwb)
I actually did this quest and knew the outcome but still watched the whole 50 minute video....
I never played this game but still watched it
Did anyone die laughing when they saw the little sheriff badge on the corpse? He be like: I may be a terrible person and about to shoot myself, BUT GODDAMMIT I WON THAT PRIZE
Tbh it mad me feel really sad. He killed all those people just to to have a silly toy. Lose lose for everyone
Ok now the thought of him putting on a plastic badge and acting like a cowboy for a few minutes before killing himself makes me laugh
@@corbinflores2116 There is no prize that can justify the killing of even one person.
@@uioRibaiasan Except 2 people.
@@somm150 Better to kill that one who forces you to make a choice between one or two people.
When that 100+ modded FNV causes it's own issues lol 23:54... the vanilla version is fine btw labels are correct.
he hates the only good fallout game
@@Perkeletricksterservantofrher Fallout 1 and 2 are good as well.
@@randomindividual4208 The only good modern Fallout game.
Check pinned comment dumby
"I solved the Sunset Sarsaparilla's secret, and all I got is this lousy badge!"
Good for you👌
thankfully Allen became the prize for his murderous scavenging hunt, so SS can save their "Steenking Badges", i'll take the gun, caps and all the sass i can carry, i feel sorry for anyone who comes looking for the prize after my characters leave, as they will get a piss poor consolation prize for their efforts.
@@UltimateGamerCC I assume SS means Sole Survivor, and thats not the FNV character. The Sole Survivor is the Fo4 character, the FNV character is simply "The Courier"
Fo1: Vault Dweller
Fo2: Chosen One
Fo3: Lone Wanderer
FNV: (The) Courier
Fo4: Sole Survivor
and apart from these main ones,
Fallout 76: The Resident
Fallout Tactics: The Warrior
Fallout: BoS: The Initiate
(never released)
Van Buren: The Prisoner
these are the titles to the player characters according to the fallout fandom wiki.
@@Apokalypse456 SS was me referring to the company that made Sunset Sarsparilla.
@@UltimateGamerCC oh
i do not feel stupid now.
Jacklyn: "He kept talking about stars or something..."
Nemesis: "STAAAAAARSS...?"
Voidman
Quick! Get the RPG!
@@JonGreen91 Are you kidding? I used that up as soon as I got it!
@@Anarchristian_Beanz that won't work!!!!!!! We need a tank
@@JonGreen91 fuck the rpg I have a magic dragon sword I'll be fine
Two best games lol starrssss
I would of been satisfied if we were able to equip the Sheriff's badge.
Get the sherif duster from prim
This is one of my favorite side story by far, from the prank that stupid machine gave me, to the last message Alan recorded. Somehow even though he killed lots of ppl, i just can’t help but feel a lil bit of sadness for him.
When you commit a crime against humanity for a few cool looking bottlecaps
*stonks*
Mad Stonks
lol
Helth
M O T H S T O N K S
AnCap intensifies
In my game Malcom stepped on a mine before he talked to me free bottle caps
Marcos Hervis his old age is catching up with him
Marcos Hervis Happen to me too , it was near a prison.
He talked to me while I was in a collapsed building about to snipe Cook-Cook's brahmin. Let's just say I walked away with some steak, a head, and some rare bottle caps
Marcos Hervis moron (not you the guy)
Malcom approached me atop the Helios one station as I activated the death laser it was so bright I couldn’t even see him I thought he was apart of the quest and simply appeared out of nowhere I was rolling in laughter
Anyone else think that Festus could randomly jump out and kill you
Dude me!
Five Nights at Festus'
Father Walrus I was like wtf why is he talking about fetuses and I was like oh he said festus XD
I never trust shitty animatronics.
Father Walrus I kind of think that he would please tell me don't fall for the game horseshoes basic same exact things call 21 or Blackjack iif you call it that
I am really surprised they didn't spawn only 49 star bottle caps just to make the quest unsolvable dooming us all to look for the 50th cap...
21:45 Good remark on Stating General Atomics did the Mr Handy robot series, however, according to the lore, mr Handy were made in PARTNERSHIP between General Atomics and RobCo, General Atomics being the manufacturer while Robco provided the programmation for the robots of most General Atomics products, including even Liberty Prime.
That plot point was explored in fallout 4 (not 100% sure)
But I guess they ended up getting it right
Cool piece of lore anyhow
Obsidian's lore would be correct anyway since a good part of their team bloody made Fallout. This comment annoyed me lol
@@selty forgot the lore they created
What did you expect from Oxhorn
I never knew that, but that makes sense. I think legally that would also allow Robco to manufacture and utilize the Mr. Handy whenever they wanted too.
It's possible that the company really was founded in 1918 while the drink itself wasn't created until after Nuka-Cola came into being.
Using a real world example, the NES - Nintendo's first video game system - was created in 1984, but the company itself started in 1889. So, Nintendo - really old, *the* Nintendo - not so old.
This comment is underrated
@@Irvinnn Thank you for the praise, but I commented a year after the video was made. I'm surprised people even saw this.
1889?! What?!¿¿¿¿
@@dibs0equiped They started out as a playing card company.
Yeah, but they didn't call themselves Nintendo Video Games or something like that. It's odd that a company called Sunset Sarsaparilla would spend 126 years in operation before getting the idea that they should possibly get into the business of maybe, possibly making sarsaparilla as their one and only product.
My favourite part was Allen Marks actually wearing the deputy badge. I don't know why Oxhorn didn't comment on this because that's honestly hilarious.
He wasn't wearing it though, it just sitting on his body, like it was put there.
Vladamire D That's just because the deputy badge isn't actually a piece of apparel. He is supposed to be wearing it.
I do know that there is a mod that let you wear the deputy's badge.
Yeah Its mean that he realize and appreciate? the prize haha
What if Festus - can actually walk and is an evil fucker in discuise? What if after learning the story - Allen just went "FUCK IT" and ventured into the factory, which triggered Festus to go after him, locking him away at the storehouse as soon as he entered? What if Festus - existed prior to the whole Star Caps and was the one, who originally started it? What if he is one of the most powerful robots out there and one of the smartest minds in the Wasteland?
DON'T WAIT TO FIGURE IT OUT THE HARD WAY - VAULT-TEC, THE FUTURE IS TODAY, WE HAVE ANSWERS IF YOU HAVE THE CAPS
9:00 I love how ox says he knows alot about the caps even though hes not a collector. Even though he literally just said he used to collect them. Why yes ox, it appears his memory still works even though he doesn't collect them anymore.
After this dark story I need a drink....
OF ICE COLD SUNSET SARSAPARILLA
now that's some salesmanship
What about some FIERY HOT MOONLIGHT ROOT BEER~?
Joe Clayton Too bad the war destroyed many bottles.
PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE WITH VAULT-TEC!
Joe Clayton why not take a sip from your trusty vault 13 canteen?
Timmy Teaches Why drink from a water canteen when you can drink an ICE-COLD NUKA COLA
Malcolm: Allen marks has killed people for those caps. Oxhorn: *Looks* *for* *Allen* *Marks*
DED G0AT Also Oxhorn: Kills Malcom for his caps
The "New Toy" couldn't have been Festus, because the "New Toy" is part of the distribution network. Festus is immobile. With it being a Cowboy Robot, it has to be Victor. Victor was made by RobCo, after all.
?
I believe ive solved the riddle. Its absolutely not victor, since he works for Mr House. Theres also no real reason for a company thats already working directly with robco to invite Mr House in as a middleman. I think based on the information we can assume that Festus came AFTER the newfangled robot. They had already tripled their sales before even coming up with the idea for a contest to begin with. Wikipedia says this happened around 2077. So if by 2077 the other robots were already operating, and mister handy was 1st invented in 2037, theres a pretty good chance it could have been mister handy. Even more interesting is that mister handy didn’t gain popularity until at least 2042 when it was used to help clean up after a large earthquake in mexico. So if by 2077 sunset sarsaparilla is cranking out bottles, and just 35 years before that this new robot with ALL the necessary features was popularized...... i think we can safely assume that mister handy is this “newfangled new robot”. I think when that guy says everything was being “singlehandedly” taken over by a robot i don’t think he literally meant 1 single robot. I believe he was referring to a single model of robot. Maybe mister handy does packaging and delivery and the protectrons are considered security and not part of actual manufacturing or delivery. In that scenario mr handy could logically be considered to be the newfangled robot. Mr handy is also clearly the most versatile of the robots, he can shoot, he floats over any terrain, he cleans, he bottles, and apparently he repairs water leaks and all sorts of other things. Victor on the other hand doesn’t do half of that stuff, he’s basically just a stalker with creepy smile and a gun. I think it’s basically confirmed that the “newfangled robots” have to be mister handy, because everything coincides, even the years and their functionality. The same can’t be said of any other robot models.
@@alexcrowder1673 From a Business-To-Business standpoint it does make sense for Mr House to want to middleman his own robot. Crazy entrepreneur working with larger corporations tends to pull that kind of shit.
Thomas Davis For mr house of course it would make sense, but why would sunset pay mr house extra money for a robot they can buy cheaper from robco directly? They are already in business with robco. It would be utterly illogical. It would be like target buying its goods from walmart instead of a wholesaler.
Why are y’all assuming the new toy and the cowboy robot are one in the same? There are a hundred robots at the place. They started with one robot, which lead to the reworking of the distribution network, and then ordered more. It isn’t even mentioned in the same message as the cowboy robot
This was a great ending in my opinion. Everybody's expectations were turned upside down
Delicious anticlimactic failure. The kind of writing I love about Fallout.
Its perfect because this collect-o-thon of bottle caps was probably meant for kids, so why would chem fiends, raiders, or mercenaries expect anything actually useful.
@@mugen7973 Reminds me of No Country for old Men.
Your blue star caps will make a fine addition to my collection
General Festusi, you are a bold one!
The really bad Animation show OMG ITS CAPEY FROM FALLOUT 4 NUKEA WORLD
Wow did not expect a Star Wars reference good job on the original comment (NOT SARCASTIC)
*You take a sip from your trusty vault 13 canteen*
OH YES
Mmmm those sweet liquids
*_Fallout 1 memories_*
Sorry but, what means that?
It's a notification that appears every now and then if you have the classic dlc pack
Me : I am going to have productive day
Also me : *watch 50 minutes about drink in a game*
This is actually me right now
@@bird-re1bl same, i dont even have the game lol
Winged snail you should get it I’ve replayed it recently and it’s worth it
Literally me at this exact moment.
Also your comment has 420 likes and I’m not ruining that.
To anyone that haven't play this game, buy it. In my opinion, it's the best Fallout in the Series.
Festus: Basically no purpose
My mind: Would have been cool if he secretly did have legs and chased you around the building XD
No, even creepier, he just walked with you, creepily, as if nothing strange was happening!
This whole quest felt like a Dark Mirror episode, A loser who live in a futuristic wasteland, heard a rumour about a unique bottlecap hunting game, and realize this is probably the only thing that can gave his life a meaning, a goal that he can chase for, so he leave behind his mother, the person who company him in his life.
And as time goes on, he start to became a part of the wasteland, became a wanderer who would do anything just for his goal even killing, and after he finally got enough of it, he goes to the factory, gave festus all his cap, and go to receive his life goal, and after realizing the thing he has been chasing his whole life is just a bunch of toy medal, feeling all dispersed, he ended his own life in shame
five nights at sunset sarsaparilla
"This day just can't get any worse." Walks towards the raiders. 4:50
Vipers.
same thing different name
@@bayingus8926
I wasn't correcting anyone. They are the same thing.
Dutch They were actually Jackal Gang members... you don’t run into vipers until you pass through Nipton. Sooooo you failed at correcting them either way
@@mr.notsocreative
Vipers* not Jackals.
Would have been cooler if after you find the loot and return to the lobby Festus is missing and it's just an empty box
Z Blade I would have shat my pants after reading what festus might be for a sick fucker
I was disappointed the Sunset quest wasn't more horror movie inspired. Or at least Creepypasta I guess. Seemed like the perfect setup.
Z Blade next thing you know you just got out of a fight with the legion and he just jumpscares you and kills you
Ian Chen no dont reference that game its stupid but yeah and no you would go into dialogue with him and he says now its time for your real prize
HOLY SHIT! That's actually an *amazing* idea!
"This day just cant get any worse"
*Pulls out gun*
Me: no pal, I guess it cant.
Looked like he was walking towards a group of raiders as he said that lol
@@JG-id5vi I was expecting a scripted event
You’re inspiring me to play RPGs differently. I now focus on the context of the game instead of running and gunning and trying to beat the game. When you play New Vegas like this it makes the game 10x better
Like how wdym
So, Mr Handies in a RobCo facility is getting the Lore wrong?
"Mister Handy robots are utility robots created as part of a joint project between General Atomics International and RobCo Industries."
Obsidian has many employees who worked on the original Fallout games, one of them even said in a Reddit post that they did use the old Fallout Bible and old documents for refreshing their memories, which sometimes lead to conflicts due to the changes Bethesda made to the Fallout Lore.
That also explains the 1918 vs 2044, originally Nuka Cola was just a parody on Coca Cola, which was founded in 1886, Obsidians fallout veterans propably remembered that. Now Bethesda themself fucked up on their own founding date too, watch the Fallout 4 Intro, in around 1 minute, if those two are supposed to be the great great grandfathers wife and son, then there is a Nuka Cola Bottle in 1944/45.
Logical Phallusy He didn't really "blast" Obsidian for that. He just offered a possible explanation for what happened in a calm and matter-of-fact manner (even though we found out that was incorrect).
@Logical Phallusy
dude chill the fuck out. You commented the same thing on this video several times over several days.
I'm sure he's integer enough.
Not gonna lie that one was pretty cool
Logical Phallusy Check the pinned comment, he did correct himself
The amount of detail that went into for backstories, little easter eggs and lore is unreal I love it
Brotherhood of Sarsaparilla
Wait u might be on to something
The Sarsaparilla of Steel.
Logical Phallusy It's called a joke
Ad Sarsparillium
*(intelligence 10)* Stalinium? Isn't that a communist material *gasp* YOUR A COMMUNIST
[Attack]
_"All the folders are labeled _*_BoS History._*_ "_
_"I think Obsidian reused assets from Fallout 3 and slapped a Sarsaparilla logo on it."_
Nope, that's just the result of playing with too many mods. Vanilla New Vegas doesn't have this problem.
What mods could oxhorn be using
@@rhileyclouse5234 texture mods prob
You’re 4 years late
@@AverseKO cool, dont care
I see that UA-cam algorithm is bringing us all here... Again
Hearing the background music just makes me want to hang out in Doc Mitchell's house...
Seeing as New Vegas was made by Obsidian, the people who originally made the Fallout series, I'd say it's more canon than 3 or Nuka World. Bethesda have never given that much regard to lore consistency anyway. Lest we forget the ghoul in the fridge quest.
uhh.. the original company that made fallout 1 and 2 went bankrupt.
@@daretowatch2133 And many of the developers and designers went on to make New Vegas. Besides, the source of the collaboration with RobCo comes from Bethesda, in the Museum of Technology in Fallout 3.
It’s absolutely more Canon than Fallout 3 and 4. Fallout New Vegas has people that actually worked on 1/2. Fallout 3 and 4 had nobody from the original games because they think so highly of themselves.
@@alekinjacobs9991 One character doesn't mean anything yes it proves and shows connection to the series but they fuck up everything stop whiteknighting
@@rabidwombat1912 Even the og developers made retcons from fo1 to fo2.
Fonv is a shitty game that capitalizes on being closely intertwined to fo1 and fo2 due to location
You made a 40 minute video about this. And somehow made every minute interesting. Amazing man. Good work
50 mins
I didn’t even realize it was that long
Sounds like somebody forgot all the minutes wasted looking through sunset sasperilla crates, complaining about a visual change on a folder made by his own mod, and talking about a fresh apple. Going over every tiny detail was a waste of time and I had to constantly mash fast forward whenever he brought up some more useless info
@@dexsave. oh boohoo man
@@RjGoombes People are going to always complain no matter the subject, ignore dudes like Sam, they don't matter in this world.
I absolutely love this quest, when you stop and think about it, it makes complete sense compared to the Nuka world "Hidden Cappy". It's a contest meant for kids that adults in the wasteland are treasure hunting for, of course the prize isn't meant to be big. Everything from the deputy stars to the suicide note was perfect.
Just proves how desperate the wastelanders are if they’re willing to kill for a contest prize for literal children. Common sense would immediately tell us that it would be a waste of time and resources, but not these poor bastards.
what do you mean? the hidden cappy quest was to meet John c. Bradburton where you had to go around the rides to find them using glasses. both are just as childish as the other.
When you crack open a cold Sunset Sarsaparilla with the boys.
And you realize you had to kill em to get that bottle
@@KynBleiddVI so you crack open the boys
@@rew1677 indeed sometimes ya have to crack some skulls for a little root beer
Fun Fact: Marcus Brody was the the guy in Indianna Jones who followed indy around, and assisted him.
I thought about that when I heard it
Dude, this is a New Vegas Creepy Pasta
@Spazmatism I think so. It was really eerie and mystic
I think Oxhorns voice kind of adds to that notion.
Creepy soda*
@@takcleberry lol
No
Revisiting this game during the Covid 19 - 21 thing. You are so good at the tour guide and narration of this game and the explanations. Really helps on road blocks.
Wow, never knew Covid 21 was a thing
Covid 21? Are you illiterate?
@@EnemyAtom65 “19-21” like the years
A 50 minute video on a virtual drink... MMMMMM I LOVE IT
It would be cool if the drink was real, and had a similar creation and unique story. Plus the Star Caps thing. I think if someone was actually to come out with it, it could really get big.
49:28*
I mean it is fallout 4
aden Torres dumbass
Yo that profile pic
I couldn't help but chuckle when I saw Allen Marks wearing the Sheriff badge
*The tallys on his gun numbered 1 and 22 more*
*1 and 23 mooooooooorrrreeeee*
I’m sorry but I thought it said “the notches on his pistol numbered 1 and 19 more”
@@Saipan2297 Sorry if you were being sarcastic, but he's parodying the marks on Alan's laser pistol.
23:28 maybe if you didn't use texture mods and play the game vanilla you'd notice that the folder is actually not what you said it was. Vanilla textures folder is a clean, WHITE, folder with just the Sunset Sarsaparilla logo on it. So really, the guy behind the texture pack re-used the fallout 3 texture. Just saying.
Late to the party. Read the pinned comment this was addressed like a year ago. He likes to play with mods, cry about it.
@@GOWvMatchstick I'm just specifying that if you want to talk about the lore in the game which contains visual clues maybe don't use mods that change said visual clues lmao, or don't cover them at all if you really really want to use mods.
@@DanielTheAssassin it’s one texture, On a mesh, that has nothing to do with the greater story. He called himself out on it in the pinned comment.
@@GOWvMatchstick you can’t win against these neck beards. They have no life.
@@GOWvMatchsticknuh huh
32:39 that poster may be based on an ACTUAL ad that campaigned during the Cold War named "Bert the Turtle". It bascially told children(or anyone watching) to be prepared and seek shelter or find somewhere safe to hide, in case the Soviet Union ever did launch an assault on the U.S.
We watched this in school. For history's sake.
If you see the flash from a nuclear detonation, crouch down under a thin piece of wood and cover your neck. You won't get dead!
I guess people needed to have something to do to not feel helpless. But geez.
The Outlet (On My Chest) I'm only now beginning to understand the constant panic people felt when LIGHTNING could be mistaken for that flash, how a brownout was pretty convincing evidence for an EMP effect...
The Outlet (On My Chest) phf who needs wood just lie on the ground you'll be fine
The motto was 'Duck and Cover'... which has been used as the title of Explosives skill books, I believe.
Knew it.
"each one has well over a hundred bottle caps!" meanwhile is looting a crate that has 84 caps in it :^ )
Im more like :^ ) right now dunno if you get the refrence
I don't think I do :0
Triggered
@1 subscriber with no videos pretty sure he adds the commentary later.
He looted other crates that did have well over 100 caps in them
Fallout new vegas has a soul.
But fallout 4 has mods. That outvalues a soul.
@@nocturnalemission6822 New Vegas also has mods lol...
@@VeteranR I know that. What's your point? The graphics for new Vegas is shit tier compared to 4.
@@nocturnalemission6822 You said Fallout 4 also has mods. In a context that sounded like only Fallout 4 has mods.
@@VeteranR + Fair enough.
I wish that if you had the Wild Wasteland trait, you have an event where as you're leaving Festus dissappears with some message in his booth saying "See you around, pardner."
I wonder if someone made a mod of it happening.
A fourth possibility regarding the year Sunset Sarsaparilla was founded could be that the company was founded in 1918, but their first product wasn’t the soda. Or as we see sometimes in our own time, companies really stretch to make that date as far back as possible to create credibility. Maybe the same happened here.
But Fallout didn't diverge from our timeline until 1950
Aaron Green you are allowed fiction pre divergence, its just the technology
@@bibtebo But supposedly everything from the the beginning - 1950 was identical
Aaron Green i suppose you are right, i just kinda thought that a fictional business started before divergence would be fair game, but maybe it just fucks with shit.
It's entirely possible that the company had a different name and purpose. Would not be the first company that changed compass.
I secretly wanted Festus to turn out to be Allen Marks. Like maybe someone hacked him and gave him a new personality but he pretends to be good ole Festus. Like you hear robotic laughing as you walk around the factory, then come back to the entrance to find he's gone.
Time to change pants xD
I would piss myself...
Nope, fuck dat shit, I didn't come here to shit mahself
Creepy
1tomsta1 now that’s creepy
This is so funny because I've played this game many many times and every single time Tomas was the one running up for help.
Ray Stakenas yeah same, ive never heard the girls dialogue until now even with 5 playthroughs
Ray Stakenas Jacklyn always won the fight in my playthroughs. Never heard Tomas' dialogue before
yeah some times i dont even see them fight
He ran to talk to me in the middle of Nipton....
I always see him after she’s already dead, It’s like this random encounter just spawns way before I’m in range to see it lol
I get the feeling this entire quest was based on the tootsie pop "Indian shooting the star" rumors
It was. One of the devs confirmed that it was.
I remember collecting those wrappers as a kid because my mom said they were special and there is a prize for collecting alot.
She played my like a damn fiddle.
@@IRUNASSULT Um correction, it's ME NOT MY!
I swear, when we got to Festus, I started getting creepypasta vibes.
Me to
+brojak Same here.
Yay me to
I have a framed "Build mass with Sass" poster in my office (along with 6 other Fallout advertisement posters) :)
Sweet, where did/can you find them
weird flex but ok
That’s cool😁👍
Satan OFFICIAL I swear, zoomers have no idea what “weird flex but ok” means
what are they
At 21:40 I feel that the founding date of sunset sarsaparilla is actually the founding date of the saloon, which is a possibility that was missed out in this theory
OHHH, so the Star Caps were basically like the Tootsie Roll lollipops, I remember as a kid everyone would tell you that the Indian shooting an arrow with a star on the wrapper could be mailed in for a free lollipop. Turns out it wasn't true but that's amazing if Obsidian did that in reference to the tootsie roll pops.
this is exactly what i was thinking
Well, there were some gas station attendants that were nice when I was a kid. I know I got at least one free tootsie roll pop out of the deal.
I was just about to post this same story. When I was a kid the local store owner would give a free lolli-pop in exchange for the star wrapper. That was 1984 or so.
The developers confirmed that the Tootsie Roll Lollipops was their insperation for the Sunset star legend, as he himself fell for the Tootsie legend as well.
As a kid I heard about the lollipop stars and was told you needed 5 of them. Supposedly it worked for a couple friends of mine but I never could find the 5th star
thanks to Oxhorn Jacqueline's died more times than rasputin
*RA RA RASPUTIN*
*LOVER OF THE RUSSIAN QUEEN*
*THERE WAS A CAT THAT REALLY WAS GONE*
*RA RA RASPUTIN*
*RUSSIA'S GREATEST LOVE MACHINE*
*IT WAS A SHAME HOW HE CARRIED ON*
So 0?
Lol
Malcolm aproached me almost at the start of the game when i found a star cap at a house on primm xD
Malcom: some people will kill for these caps
Also Malcom: turns his back on a person who just learned the value of the caps
See, I don't know anything about this game's mechanics or anything because I've never played, and I am sure there is a reason for it, but hearing someone say they "put on some overalls and used a magazine" to open a locked door is the most random and funniest thing ever.
Dirk Was Always Here
Equipping overalls increases your Perception stat which affects your lockpicking skill. Reading a magazine temporarily increases an associated skill.
I've played the game and still thought it was hilarious. If only things worked that way in real life.
it gives you a minor boost to a skill if you wear certaingear(so for lockpicking this is a overall for some reason, usually it makes more sense) and reading a magazine on a subject gives you a minor buff to it aswell for a while.
Locks are unlocked with lockpicking which goes from 1-100 but has thresholds at 25 50 75 and 100. as in you need more than that to pick the lock. so sometimes you need the litlle buff.
At least it's not as weird as shooting a mini nuke at a rat and finding a bottle of purified water in the bits that landed near you.
haha fur sure. some clothes will increase stats and you can find items that are mags that give a temp boost to stats as well. you could also find books that would permanently increase other stats
what king jordan said, much more accurate than me.
I know i am late but allan marks couldnt kill himself with a laser pistol since it doesnt make you bleed, it uses heat.
That means someone else mustve shot him in the head and placed his pistol near him, also- why would he shoot himself in the head during a sentence, probably with a stealth gun like a 22. Lr
Brotherhood got him
S.C.S the brotherhood use energy weapons exclusively.
the robot report said he was injured
It burned a hole through him. If you've ever got the gun, go shoot some deathclaws. Its very effective. The doors also locked behind him
Its most likely that he was the intruder and the robots killed him
I’ll forever be impressed that this game was made in such a short amount of time
It was under a year if im not mistaken right?
@@waragon4737 Yeah it was under a year for sure, I’m wanting to say 9 or 10 months
@@landonrutherford5466 18 months
So I guess Allen died recently, given how damn fresh that apple was
Well, probably. Malcolm knew of him, and Malcolm's not THAT old. Too bad you can't run into Allan Marks outside of here.
And Allen's corpse has not decomposed
*_HOW DAMN FRESH THAT APPLE IS_*
Not my fault Malcolm ran into Quarry Junction on my first play through...
those bramin are pretty tough for an npc to fight alone
@@theouterspacegoose2210 that must've been fucking majestic to watch
Hey, free bartering clothes.
I'm sure that the distribution robot and Festus are two different things. Though the conversation with the guy who first explains the star caps mentions that new sunset saspirilla keep appearing in the vending machines. That means the distribution robot must still be operating and restocking the machines.
Could it be Victor? Since the president of Sunset Sarsaparilla liked the Cowboy theme. We don't know about his past, either. Though it is just speculation, probably I'm wrong.
KaRoU323 oh shit that actually makes sense... it's victor that's why he is everywhere in the wasteland
The reward was loading sunset salsaparrilla boxes into trucks. So customers would do the work?
I always get approached by Malcolm immediately after picking up the blue star cap in Jenny's Skydiving just outside of Goodsprings. The "New-fangled" robot the guy is talking about could have been an Assaultron, even though those weren't a thing until Fallout 4.
Fun Fact:
There is a miniature version of the sunset sasaparilla empty bottle in the room with the very hard locked door, Mr. Brody's room...
why is there a tiny bottle in there? no reason
but its a cool thing to display in your player home.
I do think this whole thing is a reference to the old rumor of special wrappers on Tootsie Pops. Certain wrappers were said to have a special design on them and that if you found them you could get a prize from them. I know I heard that rumor alot as a kid even into my high school years.
Plokman040 right! It was the native American shooting a star with his bow! I remember that
You are correct. J.E. Sawyer has said as much in interviews
when i was a kid there was a place that would give you a free bag for 50 of them. dont remember where though
skywolf23 It had an Indian Shooting a star with a bow and arrow
Wait so you guys didn't get the Tootsie Roll treasure? I did. It was very nice. Shiny. It still does my taxes for me and turns coke into pepsi. Which isn't all that useful because snorting pepsi hurts like hell.
20:08 He says the F word than thank
Lmao
*oh no*
Lol
Good to know I wasn't the only one who heard that. Even though I know it's thank
I thought that was what it said
Speaking on the out of order sign on the wall. I would theorize that there was a vending machine there at one point, but due to all the human workers being replaced it would have been removed.