You could just make the whole party invisible and dont even bother with the first part of the fight. If you activate the Portal from sneaking it also (most of the times) opens it instantly. So your whole invis party can just go inside the portal and finish it in one turn.
Thanks a lot for this guide. I followed your strategy to the letter and defeated the brain 🧠🤯 in no time just now. I wasn't in the mood for a long fight near end, and this guide helped me end the game with ease.
First watching this video I thought all my problems were solved I had died and reloaded saves too many times to count because for some reason when I casted invisibility all my characters lost it by climbing the brain stem. But it inspired me to do something similar and so I instead used sanctuary and just ran to the end without attacking or being attached, that's the wisdom I leave here. Thanks for the bardic inspiration my guy👍👍
IT WORKS!!!….I spent 3 days trying to do this and I’ve literally just done it..turned us all invisible, went up top, still invisible, casually walked over to the crown, casted invulnerable dome, had emperor use the stones, skipped go’s until it was open then walked right in, had all my gang smash that annoying brain in like 3 attempts..easy as pie
Yep me too. After a few failed attempts at that initial battle, I came across this video and tried it with invisibility. Worked great. I turned all 5 of us invisible before climbing the brain stem, then when we arrived at the "atop the netherbrain" we were still invisible and the fight didn't even trigger. We all ran causally over to the crown, and had Emperor do his thing. That made him lose invisibility, but it didn't much matter, because by the time our whole party had ended their initial turn, the portal had appeared.
I used two characters to teleport the other two near the crown using Dimension Door, then cast the domination spell on the crown and protect the caster with the invulnerability dome.
I was not properly prepaired for this fight. I didn't have enough invsibily potions or scrolls so i was put at a huge disadvantage at the start. Not to mention the one who had the stones was the emperor and he has shitty attacks. So i took the coward way out and convinced Gale to kill himself. Only thr 4th time i talked someone into suicide in this game.
I turned my main character into a mindflayer and misty stepped my way to open the portal while letting orpheus cast the invincibility dome on everyone else at the front thinking it would be a good distraction tactic. Little did i know i needed everyone in the portal since i didnt watch any videos prior to the battle and saved after making it in with one character thinking it was over. That was almost a mistake that would cause me alot of replay time, but i barely managed to pull off the kill thank goodness. I would recommend saving before making decisions after the battle so its easy to get all the trophies possible without going through it all again.
I made my main character mindflayer too, but for whatever reason after end of first turn he always loses invisibility and gets killed, no idea what is going on... Everybody else stays invisible and he gets focused and insta killed...
Holy shit! I just spent an hour doing this really difficult fight. I totally never thought of this! I'm starting a new run today, so I'm definitely going to remember this.
Orpheus became the mindflayer for me. Invisibility for each member is crucial like you show here. I had a problem keeping all members invisible except one, upon entry into the elder brain area (despite using greater invis. scrolls). I wound up having to use Shadow heart go in without invisibility. She mainly tanked and casted invun. globe to buy the rest of the party time. Prior to jumping in the main fight, I casted up the mermaydon fire elemental, undead L5 (Asterion's ring), Lazelle used a scroll fire elemental L5, and Shadowheart casted Jinnin and the Macabre ghouls for the distractions. I used a combination of dimension door scrolls and mystic step scrolls to close on the target. It's important to keep mystic step availability on all parties. Two of them were restrained or rooted and I couldn't clear it. Dimension door wouldn't work either. Your video helped me big time.
As someone else mentioned, as soon as you start channeling the spell to get into the elder brain, your party won't be invisible anymore. Get the invulnerability dome up ASAP because the bad guys do a ton of damage and stuns. Even in the invulnerability dome, Wyll got stunned and took some damage before getting in.
I had several party member cast Invunerability Dome scrolls so if one got knocked out of concentration there would be 2 more domes still up. Keep a bag of scrolls!
In a good run you can meet deep gnomes in their hideout. You get runepowder bomb and can steal several runepowder barrels from there as well. Before going on top of the brain, let character with good initiative and several actions (hasted) drink ST-27 potion so she/he can throw runepowder explosives on dragon. They decimate all visible enemies on top of the brain and after 3 of them the dragon is barely alive. Finish him during 1st round and use dimension door or misty step to reach the crown. After the portal opens go in with everybody and throw thunder grenades as close to the brain as possible. He gets good damage from each and the battle is over in no time. You can farm them from Gortash's private room grenade launchers during the fight. Kill all enemies but one and cast hold person on him (repeat). Then run around and collect 6 bombs per round and soon you'll have them a lot. Have fun!
Invunerability Dome scrolls and Chain Lighting Scrolls!! I had several party member cast Invunerability Dome scrolls so if one got knocked out of concentration there would be 2 more domes still up. Keep a bag of scrolls! I rushed Orpheus up as he needs to get there ASAP to start the attack but if someone else gets there first cast a Dome scroll to get ready for Orpheus. Once Orpheus arrives have him cast a dome and or start the his attack on the Crown. Keep casting domes and get everyone in. When the portal arrives all you really need to send is Orpheus and Gale. Have Orpheus attack the brain he does serious damage and have Gale cast Chain Lighting Scrolls as he does 100% damage on the brain with them. I will generally cast a dome at the brain but be mindful not to get the dome touching even a little as it will become invulnerable! Sometimes I'll just send Orpheus and Gale through the portal and leave the rest to mop up the battle field completely as a challenge while they smack the brain. I also have the Emperor to deal with on the battle field as I turned on him.
I don't know if this is still viable. I just tried it and it dropped the invis as soon as the fight started, with me having initiative, probably for being momentarily invisible.
Damn, i did this fight without this strat first try, and it was ridiculously hard. I only got 2 party members through the portal and i fidnt even know the platforms could break
As pathetic as this sounds...I have attempted this fight like 4-5 times now, and I was feeling super depressed b/c I felt like my only options are to let Gale turn into an atomic bomb, or die lol. I actually cried today b/c of how frustrated I was. This video has given me hope b/c holy crap this ending feels impossible unless you go with the nuclear option. Gonna try out this tactic and see if i can make it work...with all of my companions in tact lol
I'm with you. I was up way too late last night trying to get the portal open. I was quite aggravated. Then, once I quit and went to bed, ended up dreaming about losing this fight over and over. Hah, it wasn't a fun evening.
Wtf. I may have cheesed the game so hard. Demolishing the brain was easy. I think it was weak against bludgeoning damage so i used orphic hammer on the brain and went at it. Karlach fighter and my machine gun astarion went nuts on the brain and killed it in 2 turns. Both of them dishing out 6-9 attacks per round. Or maybe i was just playing my first play through on normal difficulty. Im still early on my tactician run.
I did this method but my character's were no longer invisible when I did step 1 > I tuned them invisible then I climbed the brain stem once I skipped the cut scene they were visible again first play-through I thought I made a mistake but I checked 4 fours times I'm pretty sure they patched this now sadly but yeah
I noticed u were using monk on karlach, if u still play I recommend turning astarion into a lvl 9 monk lvl 3 rogue. Put str to lvl 8 and use cloud giant strength potion for 27 str, and he gets to attack 4 times. His ki unarmed strike can do over 100 damage with equipment focusing on unarmed strikes. I really think it's up there with paladin damage
I defeated the Netherbrain on my 3rd attempt. The emp was my mindflayer, Shart shielded him with a globe when he was dealt heavy blows, while Astarion sniped the enemy Mindflayer mages. Meanwhile Karlach attacked the dragon with Baldur's legendary sword and boosted by Cloud Giant strength. Wyll supported with mind sanctuary, hex, stuns and eldritch blast. I had 1 globe and 3 sunbeam scrolls in reserve to take through the portal and end the Netherbrain for good!
I just finished my first playthough last night. It was on Honor Mode so I didn’t know what to expect going into it. The number one completely busted tactic that made this fight 100% winnable/cheeseable is having a character run into melee range with the Bloodthirst dagger and hit the big boys to give them piercing vulnerability. I had a throwzerker hopped up on a cloud giant elixir and a swords bard using the titanstring bow paired with strength gauntlets and bloodlust elixir. Pair this with slashing flourishes or the proper arrows (arrows of dragon slaying, arrows of aberration slaying etc) and you absolutely MOP everyone. My wizard Tav focused on taking out the backline casters with magic missiles and ensuring Orpheus had a glove of invulnerability to do the stones ritual. The Isobel healing airstrike came in clutch as well when one of my crew went down. Oh, and keep some potions of speed and dimension door scrolls handy in case someone runs out of movement on a platform that’s about to explode in the final moments (definitely happened to me and saved me two characters getting wiped!)
Once I get to the platform and start to open the portal, even if the Emperor is invis and I have a globe of invulnerability up, the 4 mindflayers just immediately break the dome and the Emperor's concentration and then the enemies kill my whole party before I even get another turn.
All I did was use my mindflayer to rush to the portal with one of my characters to defend him. I had my other characters spend their turns taking out the mobs near it. And summoned as many companions as possible with my turns. Those guys basically killed off all of the mobs (or distracted them) so it made it quite easy. I didn’t even realize I needed more if my party inside of the portal to kill off the elder brain, so I had to rush them in and kill it l. Haste and misty step came in really clutch of course.
I tried reaching the crown invisible 5 or 6 times, but with the options I had available in my inventory and spellbook it turned out being so much harder than just winning the fight, which is not so difficult with all the allies and potions. I used all buff potions available before entering the fight, than started summoning all allies. I killed the emperor first, then foccused the mind flayers (their CC was causing more trouble than the dragon, which was foccusing the summoned allies) and the dragon was the last one (most of the others weaker enemies were killed by the allies and fireball colaterals by this point). Everytime someone died I would revive them, I just couldn't lose shadowheart and my bard at the same time to keep this going. I avoided staying upon the "brain platform", left the allies fighting there and kept my team close to the crown, dealing with the mind flayers. The nautiloid's attacks ended up helping me more than harming, they destroyed the enemies hahaha
I have to say that the idea of using the spell of invisibility never occurred to me until I watched this stream. I actually enjoyed the final battle in open combat, with the dragon being taken out early on. My first playthrough being concluded yesterday around 15:39 (09/02/24). I should at this point tell you that I played my version on a PS5. There are subtle differences to the PC version. For one thing the health of the brain was around a maximum of 210. You have to make selections for everything from "Action Wheels", which are frankly a mess as each characters wheels are completely different. In short there is no uniformity. As an example Shadowheart started with melee and ranged combat on wheel 1. At some point the ranged combat ended up on wheel 2 and the melee combat option on wheel 4. At the tail end of the game Gale had no less than 15 wheels? Frankly that number was over the top. Some wheels had a few empty slots. In fact wheel 14 contained nothing but 2 scrolls and 2 potions, while 15 contained nothing but 1 scroll, with 2 empty slots on wheel 9 and 3 on wheel 11? It's a PS5 aspect that could do with fixing ASAP! It would be nice to see all of the healing potions on the same wheel in particular instead of being scattered around as they are currently. All on different wheels for each character as well.
On PS5. I cast invisibility on all my 5 characters including emperor before climbing the brain stem. However when I click climb and all of the characters except the emperor lose invisibility condition and the fight starts after cutscene with only emperor invisible. Any solution?
I will never beat this boss because all of my party died on the ridiculous battle before hand and somehow I made my way to the top and accidentally touched the regenerator and used it so now even if I got everyone back alive I can’t heal them all
In my first playthrough against the Netherbrain, we got to the brain, and each got -1- round, and then the brain did some sort of explosion and all party members in that room with the brain ALL died at the same time. TPK and I did not even see what the brain did to kill them. Interesting that in your videos that didn't happen here. Perhaps they've added attacked from the brain since you've made this video.
Update: I did it!!!! See comment below for how!! don't know if they've updated something, but staying invisible unfortunately does not work. The invisibility spell on multiple players only works as long as you don't cast or engage in a fight. I tried this a number of times and every time the invisibility cuts off before my second turn is over (you're supposed to get 10 turns)...either the Flayers have a way to spot us or something else is aggro-ing my characters to turn off the invisibility. It is so frustrating that I have basically resigned myself to not being able to finish this game. I am like one of the people I read below and lost it (almost to the point of crying out of frustration)...because I cannot for the life of me get past this fight!
Update!! I finally figured it out. Thanks to videos like this and a few others, I learned of a few things that helped! Use Gale’s Invisibility spell on three to save his other spell slots. Use invisibility scroll spells on other two party members. Sneak over to spot to start the stones (have to use Emperor or Flayer). Then have Gale put out invulnerability dome. Then you’re in portal !! Easy… once in kill brain with biggest damage dealers
@angiewillard1615 I don't have any invisibility scrolls. I cast greater invisibility on the emperor, but it wore off after 3 turns. Then that red dragon kills us all very quickly if the mind flayerers don't get us first.
That’s a great point to make! Probably worth learning those spells for this battle to amplify the tactics I chose here! Thanks for the awesome tip man!
I've done it with out invisible but not in my own play through we used hold spells and a lot of damage. Now I am doing honor mode so I am hoping this works also....
How the literal FUK on XBox do to cast invisibility on the entire party? I have greater invisibility with Gale as a wizard and regular invisibility with Wyll as a warlock and I can only cast invisibility on a single party member.
@@nesouas3642 Gale. You don't get to make the decision at the controls though. He climbs up by himself and activates his netherese bomb. Then it plays the epilogue and we mourn Gale and live happily ever after with Shadowheart.
I'm so pissed! This is exactly what happened to me. So my second attempt I went in and each party member took invisiblity potion when battle commenced and used fly. But before we could all get there, Gale, Shadowheart, and Asarian, somehow lost their invisibility on turn 2. They all died so I went through the portal with only my owlbear Siouxzette and the emperor. We got the brain down to 150 with 2 of us but with the turn limit of 5 I just can't get there solo before she breaks free. Going to keep trying to get them there with invisibility intact. Doesn't help that you can not access camp.
Hey came across your Raphael guide vid but saw that the same issue is in this vid -> could you perhaps slightly lower the gain on your microphone ? There's quite a bit of frequent audio peaking that makes it bit harder to listen continuously but otherwise keep up the great work! :D
@@BundyclanOld thanks for the feedback man greatly appreciated! might be something with my EQ in adobe premiere should be fixed in my next video! Thanks brotha!
I've played this 11 times now, but only defeated the brain twice once with Gale and once with only Tav and Minthara, Gale and Astarion died getting there 😔
This may be a dumb question but how did you manage to get up to the brain without wasting spell slots? We were already half dead when we came there and just kept failing miserably. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks.
I believe so. I did not think about solo casting that on my netherstone caster to make it easier. I recasted regular invisibility once I started the cast on the crown which still worked out for me. Thanks for the awesome tip man!
I don't think this tactic works anymore. Maybe they uodated it. At least in my case, as soon as I climbed the brain, invisibility ended on all party members apart from the Emperor. Loved every second of the game but this fight ruined it. Would have rather preferred just fighting the dragon by itself instead of cheesing through it.
@crawllingchaos no, I haven't gone back to that save yet 😂 I started a bard and also a moonmaiden Celric Tav in the meantime 😂 I'll probably try it again soon, I keep scrolling past that save and working myself up to attempt it again
With Gale in my Party i can't go Invisible because after going Invisible it immediatly ends and Gale Talks with me about exploding him self the after the talk we are up and not invis
Thank you this was helpful, if I can offer one small critique for you as you aim to build your channel. Be aware of how often you use certain words. for many people it's the word Like. For you it's the word Guys. Even in your short description you used it 5 times it can become distracting or even annoying to some.. Just something to be cognizant of. Good luck with the channel.
this is what wrong with this game. i'm right in there with you..but i don't have the scepter...it means i have to go find a save back in the city ? I can't break this thing without a scepter ??
i have the 3 stones...gave them to the Emperor..its the scepter that i don' t have..Again i probably sold it not knowing it was important. Sometimes this game don't give you all the clues..
So I don’t know if it was a glitch, but I got two party members through still with four turns left, and got good damage on the brain as I got my other characters closer. When it went back to Karlach and La’zel, the 2 I had inside the portal, they were somehow already dead. And I had no idea what happened. I know the platforms are supposed to disappear but their death orbs were on the platforms I left them on. Idk what to do. It kinda ruined my experience cause I was doing fine up til that point. 😥
Definitely not honor mode be the brain Lilly everyone inside on it’s turn so you only get one turn no waiting because ause you end turn it’s your last turn
I’m sad because I don’t think I have any or enough of the stuff to get through this final fight and I definitely don’t have the saves anymore lol they need to tweak the fight to allow for other ways to beat it cause the only normal way is with invisibility and invulnerability stuff and I think I only have a few things in my party. I mean I horse shit but I can’t go back to camp which I wish you could before you start the last of the shit
I for the life of me can’t figure out how to cast invisibility or greater invisibility on multiple characters either with the keyboard/mouse or with my controller. I also see a message that upcasting has no benefit on greater invisibility. No upcast options for regular invisibility. Did they nerf this ability?
You could just make the whole party invisible and dont even bother with the first part of the fight. If you activate the Portal from sneaking it also (most of the times) opens it instantly. So your whole invis party can just go inside the portal and finish it in one turn.
Did not know that man! Really appreciate you bringing this to light! Pinning this! Thanks
My party won't stay invisible 3 will the rest won't.
The archers in the beginning have see invisibility now 😭
@starlightmoonlight11 so this strategy doesn't work anymore? Can you just fly there and cast dome of protection?
What archers? @@starlightmoonlight11
Thanks a lot for this guide. I followed your strategy to the letter and defeated the brain 🧠🤯 in no time just now.
I wasn't in the mood for a long fight near end, and this guide helped me end the game with ease.
First watching this video I thought all my problems were solved I had died and reloaded saves too many times to count because for some reason when I casted invisibility all my characters lost it by climbing the brain stem. But it inspired me to do something similar and so I instead used sanctuary and just ran to the end without attacking or being attached, that's the wisdom I leave here. Thanks for the bardic inspiration my guy👍👍
you are a genius.
IT WORKS!!!….I spent 3 days trying to do this and I’ve literally just done it..turned us all invisible, went up top, still invisible, casually walked over to the crown, casted invulnerable dome, had emperor use the stones, skipped go’s until it was open then walked right in, had all my gang smash that annoying brain in like 3 attempts..easy as pie
Yep me too. After a few failed attempts at that initial battle, I came across this video and tried it with invisibility. Worked great. I turned all 5 of us invisible before climbing the brain stem, then when we arrived at the "atop the netherbrain" we were still invisible and the fight didn't even trigger. We all ran causally over to the crown, and had Emperor do his thing. That made him lose invisibility, but it didn't much matter, because by the time our whole party had ended their initial turn, the portal had appeared.
its now patched. Cant do this anymore
@@emilia2411yep :/
I used two characters to teleport the other two near the crown using Dimension Door, then cast the domination spell on the crown and protect the caster with the invulnerability dome.
I was not properly prepaired for this fight. I didn't have enough invsibily potions or scrolls so i was put at a huge disadvantage at the start. Not to mention the one who had the stones was the emperor and he has shitty attacks. So i took the coward way out and convinced Gale to kill himself. Only thr 4th time i talked someone into suicide in this game.
I turned my main character into a mindflayer and misty stepped my way to open the portal while letting orpheus cast the invincibility dome on everyone else at the front thinking it would be a good distraction tactic. Little did i know i needed everyone in the portal since i didnt watch any videos prior to the battle and saved after making it in with one character thinking it was over. That was almost a mistake that would cause me alot of replay time, but i barely managed to pull off the kill thank goodness.
I would recommend saving before making decisions after the battle so its easy to get all the trophies possible without going through it all again.
that's awesome buddy! nice job and nice usage of tactics! Appreciate the comment!
I made my main character mindflayer too, but for whatever reason after end of first turn he always loses invisibility and gets killed, no idea what is going on... Everybody else stays invisible and he gets focused and insta killed...
Holy shit! I just spent an hour doing this really difficult fight. I totally never thought of this! I'm starting a new run today, so I'm definitely going to remember this.
Orpheus became the mindflayer for me. Invisibility for each member is crucial like you show here. I had a problem keeping all members invisible except one, upon entry into the elder brain area (despite using greater invis. scrolls). I wound up having to use Shadow heart go in without invisibility. She mainly tanked and casted invun. globe to buy the rest of the party time. Prior to jumping in the main fight, I casted up the mermaydon fire elemental, undead L5 (Asterion's ring), Lazelle used a scroll fire elemental L5, and Shadowheart casted Jinnin and the Macabre ghouls for the distractions. I used a combination of dimension door scrolls and mystic step scrolls to close on the target. It's important to keep mystic step availability on all parties. Two of them were restrained or rooted and I couldn't clear it. Dimension door wouldn't work either. Your video helped me big time.
As someone else mentioned, as soon as you start channeling the spell to get into the elder brain, your party won't be invisible anymore. Get the invulnerability dome up ASAP because the bad guys do a ton of damage and stuns. Even in the invulnerability dome, Wyll got stunned and took some damage before getting in.
I had several party member cast Invunerability Dome scrolls so if one got knocked out of concentration there would be 2 more domes still up. Keep a bag of scrolls!
In a good run you can meet deep gnomes in their hideout. You get runepowder bomb and can steal several runepowder barrels from there as well. Before going on top of the brain, let character with good initiative and several actions (hasted) drink ST-27 potion so she/he can throw runepowder explosives on dragon. They decimate all visible enemies on top of the brain and after 3 of them the dragon is barely alive. Finish him during 1st round and use dimension door or misty step to reach the crown. After the portal opens go in with everybody and throw thunder grenades as close to the brain as possible. He gets good damage from each and the battle is over in no time. You can farm them from Gortash's private room grenade launchers during the fight. Kill all enemies but one and cast hold person on him (repeat). Then run around and collect 6 bombs per round and soon you'll have them a lot. Have fun!
I never knew you could pick up those bombs. Doesn't make sense that they don't explode in your possession but I guess oversight
Oh, that is just diabolically smart!! Good on you, Sir!! I'll definitely be using this!!
if any party member is in gaseous form when you activate the final battle, the brain will not create a copy of them.
Invunerability Dome scrolls and Chain Lighting Scrolls!! I had several party member cast Invunerability Dome scrolls so if one got knocked out of concentration there would be 2 more domes still up. Keep a bag of scrolls! I rushed Orpheus up as he needs to get there ASAP to start the attack but if someone else gets there first cast a Dome scroll to get ready for Orpheus.
Once Orpheus arrives have him cast a dome and or start the his attack on the Crown. Keep casting domes and get everyone in. When the portal arrives all you really need to send is Orpheus and Gale. Have Orpheus attack the brain he does serious damage and have Gale cast Chain Lighting Scrolls as he does 100% damage on the brain with them. I will generally cast a dome at the brain but be mindful not to get the dome touching even a little as it will become invulnerable!
Sometimes I'll just send Orpheus and Gale through the portal and leave the rest to mop up the battle field completely as a challenge while they smack the brain. I also have the Emperor to deal with on the battle field as I turned on him.
I don't know if this is still viable. I just tried it and it dropped the invis as soon as the fight started, with me having initiative, probably for being momentarily invisible.
Damn, i did this fight without this strat first try, and it was ridiculously hard. I only got 2 party members through the portal and i fidnt even know the platforms could break
As pathetic as this sounds...I have attempted this fight like 4-5 times now, and I was feeling super depressed b/c I felt like my only options are to let Gale turn into an atomic bomb, or die lol. I actually cried today b/c of how frustrated I was. This video has given me hope b/c holy crap this ending feels impossible unless you go with the nuclear option. Gonna try out this tactic and see if i can make it work...with all of my companions in tact lol
You got this, show that elderbrain who the real boss is.🎉
best of luck! thanks for watching the video hope it helped out a little!
I'm with you. I was up way too late last night trying to get the portal open. I was quite aggravated. Then, once I quit and went to bed, ended up dreaming about losing this fight over and over. Hah, it wasn't a fun evening.
Wtf. I may have cheesed the game so hard. Demolishing the brain was easy. I think it was weak against bludgeoning damage so i used orphic hammer on the brain and went at it. Karlach fighter and my machine gun astarion went nuts on the brain and killed it in 2 turns. Both of them dishing out 6-9 attacks per round. Or maybe i was just playing my first play through on normal difficulty. Im still early on my tactician run.
I did this method but my character's were no longer invisible when I did step 1 > I tuned them invisible then I climbed the brain stem once I skipped the cut scene they were visible again first play-through I thought I made a mistake but I checked 4 fours times I'm pretty sure they patched this now sadly but yeah
Damn I just realized this too
If you don't care about gale and just looking for the W you can have gale use his final attonement to literally end the game
What i did was enter the fight normally. Then casted Sanctuary on Karlach. Enemy AI was unable to do anything to stop channeling the crown.
I did it with 3 invis potions and 1 greater invis scroll, but if you have 1 more invis potion or scroll, its even more easier
I noticed u were using monk on karlach, if u still play I recommend turning astarion into a lvl 9 monk lvl 3 rogue. Put str to lvl 8 and use cloud giant strength potion for 27 str, and he gets to attack 4 times. His ki unarmed strike can do over 100 damage with equipment focusing on unarmed strikes. I really think it's up there with paladin damage
I defeated the Netherbrain on my 3rd attempt. The emp was my mindflayer, Shart shielded him with a globe when he was dealt heavy blows, while Astarion sniped the enemy Mindflayer mages. Meanwhile Karlach attacked the dragon with Baldur's legendary sword and boosted by Cloud Giant strength. Wyll supported with mind sanctuary, hex, stuns and eldritch blast. I had 1 globe and 3 sunbeam scrolls in reserve to take through the portal and end the Netherbrain for good!
I just finished my first playthough last night. It was on Honor Mode so I didn’t know what to expect going into it. The number one completely busted tactic that made this fight 100% winnable/cheeseable is having a character run into melee range with the Bloodthirst dagger and hit the big boys to give them piercing vulnerability. I had a throwzerker hopped up on a cloud giant elixir and a swords bard using the titanstring bow paired with strength gauntlets and bloodlust elixir. Pair this with slashing flourishes or the proper arrows (arrows of dragon slaying, arrows of aberration slaying etc) and you absolutely MOP everyone. My wizard Tav focused on taking out the backline casters with magic missiles and ensuring Orpheus had a glove of invulnerability to do the stones ritual. The Isobel healing airstrike came in clutch as well when one of my crew went down. Oh, and keep some potions of speed and dimension door scrolls handy in case someone runs out of movement on a platform that’s about to explode in the final moments (definitely happened to me and saved me two characters getting wiped!)
Once I get to the platform and start to open the portal, even if the Emperor is invis and I have a globe of invulnerability up, the 4 mindflayers just immediately break the dome and the Emperor's concentration and then the enemies kill my whole party before I even get another turn.
This worked. I got all my allies to the portal. Luckily our presence was not detected.
Thanks buddy! appreciate it
All I did was use my mindflayer to rush to the portal with one of my characters to defend him. I had my other characters spend their turns taking out the mobs near it. And summoned as many companions as possible with my turns. Those guys basically killed off all of the mobs (or distracted them) so it made it quite easy. I didn’t even realize I needed more if my party inside of the portal to kill off the elder brain, so I had to rush them in and kill it l. Haste and misty step came in really clutch of course.
Invisibility doesn’t work. The emperor doesn't stay invisible for long. No rejuvenator in tactician.
I tried reaching the crown invisible 5 or 6 times, but with the options I had available in my inventory and spellbook it turned out being so much harder than just winning the fight, which is not so difficult with all the allies and potions. I used all buff potions available before entering the fight, than started summoning all allies. I killed the emperor first, then foccused the mind flayers (their CC was causing more trouble than the dragon, which was foccusing the summoned allies) and the dragon was the last one (most of the others weaker enemies were killed by the allies and fireball colaterals by this point). Everytime someone died I would revive them, I just couldn't lose shadowheart and my bard at the same time to keep this going. I avoided staying upon the "brain platform", left the allies fighting there and kept my team close to the crown, dealing with the mind flayers. The nautiloid's attacks ended up helping me more than harming, they destroyed the enemies hahaha
My goodness I was losing my mind. Thanks
I have to say that the idea of using the spell of invisibility never occurred to me until I watched this stream. I actually enjoyed the final battle in open combat, with the dragon being taken out early on. My first playthrough being concluded yesterday around 15:39 (09/02/24). I should at this point tell you that I played my version on a PS5. There are subtle differences to the PC version. For one thing the health of the brain was around a maximum of 210. You have to make selections for everything from "Action Wheels", which are frankly a mess as each characters wheels are completely different. In short there is no uniformity. As an example Shadowheart started with melee and ranged combat on wheel 1. At some point the ranged combat ended up on wheel 2 and the melee combat option on wheel 4. At the tail end of the game Gale had no less than 15 wheels? Frankly that number was over the top. Some wheels had a few empty slots. In fact wheel 14 contained nothing but 2 scrolls and 2 potions, while 15 contained nothing but 1 scroll, with 2 empty slots on wheel 9 and 3 on wheel 11? It's a PS5 aspect that could do with fixing ASAP! It would be nice to see all of the healing potions on the same wheel in particular instead of being scattered around as they are currently. All on different wheels for each character as well.
Don’t work when I cast invisible spell I get seen instantly
Same for me
On PS5. I cast invisibility on all my 5 characters including emperor before climbing the brain stem. However when I click climb and all of the characters except the emperor lose invisibility condition and the fight starts after cutscene with only emperor invisible. Any solution?
Same prob here, I think they patched it
This happens for me too. Nothing in this video works as shown.
in my playthrough i just cast sanctuary on the mind flayer and noone bothered them while they were opening the poertal.
that's dope! Awesome job man! I hope the video was helpful somewhat! Thanks!
Too many unnecessary words spoken before actual content shown
Then skip ahead or do your own guide?
At least it isn't an hour long with excruciating detail of what they had for breakfast and a paid advertisement for Raid: Shadow Legends.
haha yess@@tracyholder840
Just put the time stamp next time 😂
I didn't mind
I will never beat this boss because all of my party died on the ridiculous battle before hand and somehow I made my way to the top and accidentally touched the regenerator and used it so now even if I got everyone back alive I can’t heal them all
In my first playthrough against the Netherbrain, we got to the brain, and each got -1- round, and then the brain did some sort of explosion and all party members in that room with the brain ALL died at the same time. TPK and I did not even see what the brain did to kill them.
Interesting that in your videos that didn't happen here. Perhaps they've added attacked from the brain since you've made this video.
Update: I did it!!!! See comment below for how!!
don't know if they've updated something, but staying invisible unfortunately does not work. The invisibility spell on multiple players only works as long as you don't cast or engage in a fight. I tried this a number of times and every time the invisibility cuts off before my second turn is over (you're supposed to get 10 turns)...either the Flayers have a way to spot us or something else is aggro-ing my characters to turn off the invisibility. It is so frustrating that I have basically resigned myself to not being able to finish this game. I am like one of the people I read below and lost it (almost to the point of crying out of frustration)...because I cannot for the life of me get past this fight!
I hear you. I've tried for many hours and just can't get to the brain. I had to settle for Gale using the orb.
Update!! I finally figured it out. Thanks to videos like this and a few others, I learned of a few things that helped!
Use Gale’s Invisibility spell on three to save his other spell slots. Use invisibility scroll spells on other two party members. Sneak over to spot to start the stones (have to use Emperor or Flayer). Then have Gale put out invulnerability dome. Then you’re in portal !! Easy… once in kill brain with biggest damage dealers
@angiewillard1615 I don't have any invisibility scrolls. I cast greater invisibility on the emperor, but it wore off after 3 turns. Then that red dragon kills us all very quickly if the mind flayerers don't get us first.
You would benifet allot from the Long Strider spell and the Jump spell.
That’s a great point to make! Probably worth learning those spells for this battle to amplify the tactics I chose here! Thanks for the awesome tip man!
Very helpful guide!
they fixed this? I find an enemy capable of seeing invisibility
What about for those of us that didn't want to become mindflayers with any characters...
Keep in mind Orpheus can use your healing pots and scrolls. Dijin and Dame Alyin summon can use healing pots.
I've done it with out invisible but not in my own play through we used hold spells and a lot of damage. Now I am doing honor mode so I am hoping this works also....
How the literal FUK on XBox do to cast invisibility on the entire party? I have greater invisibility with Gale as a wizard and regular invisibility with Wyll as a warlock and I can only cast invisibility on a single party member.
He's playing a sorcerer which has multi cast so he can cast one invisiblity spell on all party members
any idea what to do if you don't have the invisibility spell leveled nor any potions with you?
What if the emperors dies before he has a chance to do anything
How do u cast invisibility on multiple people? I'm stuck until I learn how to do that.
You need to use a higher spell slot for a more potent variant of the spell.
What about using either sanctuary to protect Karlach or the invulnerability bubble spell?
They still cast on me and the tentacles hit as well. LOL so how is this working for you
Globe of invulnerability ,misty step or fly. The person with the stones needs to be invisible inside globe.
If you bring a certain someone you can skip both these fights entirely. I did then reloaded to see if I could do the fight the proper way.
Did not know that at all! That’s pretty cool. Guess i’ll have to find that out in another playthrough! Thanks!
Who?
@@nesouas3642 Gale. You don't get to make the decision at the controls though. He climbs up by himself and activates his netherese bomb. Then it plays the epilogue and we mourn Gale and live happily ever after with Shadowheart.
Wouldn’t hurt to have a few invisibility potions on hand to drink or throw if necessary.
As soon as you climb the stem I lose the condition invisible !! Wtf
I'm so pissed! This is exactly what happened to me. So my second attempt I went in and each party member took invisiblity potion when battle commenced and used fly. But before we could all get there, Gale, Shadowheart, and Asarian, somehow lost their invisibility on turn 2. They all died so I went through the portal with only my owlbear Siouxzette and the emperor. We got the brain down to 150 with 2 of us but with the turn limit of 5 I just can't get there solo before she breaks free. Going to keep trying to get them there with invisibility intact. Doesn't help that you can not access camp.
Hey came across your Raphael guide vid but saw that the same issue is in this vid -> could you perhaps slightly lower the gain on your microphone ? There's quite a bit of frequent audio peaking that makes it bit harder to listen continuously but otherwise keep up the great work! :D
Really sorry about that man! I will try to turn off the low end in my future videos!
Oh no worries at all, just wanted to help out, sounds like u got a great mic would be a shame not to adjust it haha @@Dredizzle
@@BundyclanOld thanks for the feedback man greatly appreciated! might be something with my EQ in adobe premiere should be fixed in my next video! Thanks brotha!
4 druids and potion of invisibility got me in. Otherwise exact same strat.
I've played this 11 times now, but only defeated the brain twice once with Gale and once with only Tav and Minthara, Gale and Astarion died getting there 😔
would have been nice to see on the big map where the brain stem is .........
None of my characters have a spell to make us all invisible, just one at a time. Is there anything else I can do?
Why am I become visible after I go through the gate, do exactly like in video 🤷♂️
This may be a dumb question but how did you manage to get up to the brain without wasting spell slots? We were already half dead when we came there and just kept failing miserably. Any advice would be appreciated, thanks.
You need 5 bottles of potion of angelic slumber. Drink them for a long rest and all spell slots back before your climb the brain stem
@@siouxzetter Thank you so much!! This is extremely helpful :) are the potions hard to get?
The fact that none of my extra characters followed me to the final battle 🤔 is this a glitch or something?
I was so happy to see this video... then I realized I dont have the spell...
Wouldn't greater invisibly keep whoever does the portal invisible?
I believe so. I did not think about solo casting that on my netherstone caster to make it easier. I recasted regular invisibility once I started the cast on the crown which still worked out for me. Thanks for the awesome tip man!
Isn't there also a scroll of "mass invisibilty" so you don't have to upcast your regular one?
This does not work anymore. For console anyway. When I turned invisible none of us remained so after we climbed up
How do i use invisibility on all my characters tho i cant select all my characters (im on ps5)
I don't think this tactic works anymore. Maybe they uodated it. At least in my case, as soon as I climbed the brain, invisibility ended on all party members apart from the Emperor.
Loved every second of the game but this fight ruined it. Would have rather preferred just fighting the dragon by itself instead of cheesing through it.
How could you make all the party members invisible with a single invisibility parchment?
Idk if I got a glitch but I couldnt get my party into the portal. Karlach was in there by herself and I was VERY mad about it lol
What did you fix it?
@crawllingchaos no, I haven't gone back to that save yet 😂 I started a bard and also a moonmaiden Celric Tav in the meantime 😂
I'll probably try it again soon, I keep scrolling past that save and working myself up to attempt it again
@crawllingchaos I guess it was a 1 time thing, it worked this time and I won 👍😭
dual wield deva mace with branding smite = fresh booboo
Have they patched this? When i come out after the cutscenes im no longer invis.... I hate this fight so much.
With Gale in my Party i can't go Invisible because after going Invisible it immediatly ends and Gale Talks with me about exploding him self the after the talk we are up and not invis
turned all invisible go to start the fight none are invisible.....
Thank you this was helpful, if I can offer one small critique for you as you aim to build your channel. Be aware of how often you use certain words. for many people it's the word Like. For you it's the word Guys. Even in your short description you used it 5 times it can become distracting or even annoying to some.. Just something to be cognizant of. Good luck with the channel.
THERE'S A REJUVINATOR THERE???????
I can't seem to get out of combat to climb the brain stem.
You either have a party member dead that needs to be alive or an enemy alive somewhere
I figured it out. Had to go back and kill a bunch of mobs first. @@GeorgeZimmermen
The hardest part is getting to the fight and there no videos on that
What about dropping a globe at the top?
This deadass doesnt work
this is what wrong with this game. i'm right in there with you..but i don't have the scepter...it means i have to go find a save back in the city ? I can't break this thing without a scepter ??
you need all 3 nether-stones to dominate the crown and kill the elder brain. Good luck!
i have the 3 stones...gave them to the Emperor..its the scepter that i don' t have..Again i probably sold it not knowing it was important. Sometimes this game don't give you all the clues..
@@PierreC2 sorry to hear that buddy! yea that sucks man. Hope you don't have to load to far back best of luck! Thanks for watching the video tho!
Has anyone tried Windwalk instead of invisibility? It worked great for me in the Orin fight.
Are you using some kind of mod/patch? Cause i tried your method and it didn't work (i'm on ps5)
Probably patched.. The video is from 6 months ago.
I had no idea the rejuvenator was there…
Nvm I don’t have that in my tactical run through 😢
I can't even tell where I'm going.
So I don’t know if it was a glitch, but I got two party members through still with four turns left, and got good damage on the brain as I got my other characters closer. When it went back to Karlach and La’zel, the 2 I had inside the portal, they were somehow already dead. And I had no idea what happened. I know the platforms are supposed to disappear but their death orbs were on the platforms I left them on. Idk what to do. It kinda ruined my experience cause I was doing fine up til that point. 😥
Uninvisible? I think you meant to say visible.
invisibility last 1 turn if that then i just straight up die , even on easy mode
Can't you take out all the mind flayers and the dragon sides with you? There is no recharge station in mine. Wtf?
Question…I’m at the Elder Brain…but after I get him to about half life…he becomes “invulnerable’…how do you get around that?
Definitely not honor mode be the brain Lilly everyone inside on it’s turn so you only get one turn no waiting because ause you end turn it’s your last turn
How did you get multiple party members? I’m having such a hard time with this one
you have to find party member naturally in the game as you progress the story. Make sure to talk to NPC’s as much as you can!
is there a new way? it doesn’t work i think they patched it up
I’m sad because I don’t think I have any or enough of the stuff to get through this final fight and I definitely don’t have the saves anymore lol they need to tweak the fight to allow for other ways to beat it cause the only normal way is with invisibility and invulnerability stuff and I think I only have a few things in my party. I mean I horse shit but I can’t go back to camp which I wish you could before you start the last of the shit
how do you know which platforms are going to break?
This fight is just fucking dumb honestly hated act 3
I for the life of me can’t figure out how to cast invisibility or greater invisibility on multiple characters either with the keyboard/mouse or with my controller. I also see a message that upcasting has no benefit on greater invisibility. No upcast options for regular invisibility. Did they nerf this ability?
If you throw an invis potion with it hitting all your party members they all go invis
I guess it was patched out. Climbing up makes ypu lose concentration on invisible
No one of my team members can cast invisibility. I can just give up lol
U can Respect ur party with Withers. Or potions/scrolls of invis
same😭
They patched this 😭
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