Thor 4 sucks and the mcu is dead
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It’s still minions month! But here’s a little rant before the next minions video
Hi nick i love u
Thor Love and Thunder is my 2nd favorite Marvel movie just behind Thor Ragnarok. I don't agree with YOUR OPINION but your a funny UA-camr so I will watch.
On another note
KING BOB!!!
Banana
The funniest thing is I figured out that Capeshit was bad and broken when I watched the Batman/Joker movie (the one everyone says is amazing just because the guy playing Joker died from an overdose).
Welcome to the club, I guess, Nick! Superhero movies are garbage and anyone who says otherwise is nostalgic or S O I
YEAH
I just think the MCU needs to slow down on quantity and focus heavily on quality like the first three phases.
I honestly think they should just do both, there's no reason one has to come at the cost of the other
@@racool911 you can't do both. Quality and quantity are factors that are way too hard to balance, and Disney definitely won't do that.
@@moosicisthegood That only applies if all of the projects are being worked on by the same people. Even though it's one studio, every movie and show has it's own separate production team, budget and schedule. One project should not affect the other, and if it does, then the quantity is not the inherent issue. It's poor executive management.
@@racool911 Yeah, but at the end of the day the bottom line and what shareholders are willing to shill out matter more to them. If they know they can keep making millions off of easily produced green screens, recycled renders and recycled jokes, they will keep pushing for that. Once they start losing money is when they'll make a shift in quality (hopefully). I would imagine once DC manages to get it together and produce quality films consistently and Marvel loses a foothold in the market is when they'll actually hire more than 20 people to do the VFX for them and try to write stories again.
@@TheDankMagician If that was true, they would've started doing this a while ago.
It’s crazy to imagine 10 years ago that “Marvel” would become its own genre. And that to many, that genre would deteriorate to a lifeless one
Steven Spielberg perhaps is right
@Kurtis bro left a bot response then an actual response
I might be mixing you up with someone else but are you tc Nick's editor?
@@lylelylecrocodile2538 bruh no way 😂 I am
Yep
This movie was explained to me perfectly by my grandson: "It's like you have a new school bus driver and he's kinda crazy and the drive to school was different and kinda fun. That was Ragnarok. But when he comes to drive you home he's so busy trying to do crazy stuff that he drives the bus off a bridge and into a lake and we all die. That was this movie".
Crazy indeed
Your grandson is spot on. This film is so obsessed with being wacky and weird that it forgot to tell a coherent, engaging story. And most of all, make you care about any of the characters. Just a tiresome mess.
Thor 3 was fun, but also terribly written and felt like a parody universe while Thor 1 and 2 took itself seriously. Adding in jokes to Thor isn't bad, but turning it into a worse Guardians of the Galaxy is just stupid.
And then everyone clapped
It's true, I was the quilt his grandpa was making.
If they had brains, they would have taken a few years off after Endgame, when people still loved it, to give people time to miss it instead of continuing the 15 years of jamming it down our throats.
Nah won’t happen under Disney or any other Hollywood studio
So true.
I had told the same thing to my friend today.
They get so insecure that they chose Qauntity over Qaulity just to keep their audience subscribed. Just like Netflix does.
At today's date Marvel is more like Disney films just having Marvel characters that's it.
If they had taken time like a year or two year to make a comeback it would've made them fat money. One - two Qaulity films and shows are enough. Too much shows just ruins the rhythm.
@@candyman.5585 There was nothing in 2020,whether intentional or not.But Far from home shouldn't have been released in 2019
@@shafkatahmed5420 What do you mean?
@@candyman.5585 There wasn't any MCU film released in 2020.And FFH shouldn't have been in the same year as Endgame.How do u not understand that?
Don't blame the visual artists for this crap, blame Marvel for treating their artists like slaves!
The pay is good tho
@@Determinator21 yeah but when the same group of people have to have 5 TV shows and 3 movies in under a year you get shit results no matter what the pay is
@@Determinator21 actually no a lot of the vfx artists have come out to admit that they aren’t paid well for how much they work
Actually blame disney
@@Determinator21 some marvel vfx artists have said that they aren’t paid properly for the work that they’re doing
Couldn’t agree more, this film had potential to be something great, but the writers decided to make every scene an SNL skit
i love the movie
@@qrx_ k
Lol, did you actually pay to watch this movie, Crank????? LOL
fr i actually enjoyed the movie but i wouldve enjoyed it tons more if it werent for the comedy every second 🙁
no. Marvel movies never have potential since we all know they're gonna be mediocre anyways
Thor literally said "he's behind me, isn't he?" 💀💀💀
Corny 😭
Crrrrrringyy🤮
That scene was hilarious! Wdym 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 (someone has a gun held to my head while I’m typing this)
@@AzzyRiah LOL
Lord
Thank you. Thor 4 and Dr Strange 2 had the potential to be the best of phase 4, but they both had plotholes and such cringy humor that it just ruined them. They are definitely unfinished.
Ugh, Dr. strange 2 was so awful and demonic, after that I decided I wasn't ever watching anymore mcu. It's time for detachment. Maybe I'll see GotG3, but that's only if people I trust say it was good.
Thats what it is nowadays. Disney is doing all of this. Take me back to 1999 so i can watch better movies PLEASE
We’ve officially reached the point of the MCU where the movies actually feel like comic books. This film was basically like an unnecessary filler arc
Have you ever read the comics?
@@donuttheturtle2.070 yes
Bullshit!
@@thecoolguy7324 I doubt that. You don’t actually understand what filler is.
@@gracekim25 what I’m saying is this film feels like, in the long run, it feels like it will have very little impact on the larger MCU universe, aside from the stuff with the gods
The "Infinity Cones" ice cream parlor "joke" really tics me off the more I think about it because it's an ice cream parlor themed around the Infinity Stones and Infinity Guantlet which Thanos used to genocide half of all life in the universe. It's like having a holocaust themed ice cream parlor. It was a dumb joke that only has comedic value to the viewers and makes no sense in universe.
“Holocones! 7 million flavors!”
They keep undermining their own franchise. Like with this and in the drawer full of infinity stones in Loki.
It's becoming too self aware to the point where you can't really suspend your disbelief anymore.
@Formarotica For me as an entitled fan who’s been watching mcu for over 10 years, that is just super unfulfilling.
@@TS-rp7dz I was fine with that since it makes since. The avengers traveled through time to get more. A entire company based on time travel would reasonably have some extremely powerful stuff from the universes they got rid of
moon knight was such a breath of fresh air because you didn’t have to watch anything else marvel to understand what was going on
Moon knight sucked though
@@jbenitez22 it was a 70 if u ask me, still better than the other shows, which isnt a high bar to pass
@@jbenitez22 still better than most Marvel tv series
@@jbenitez22 L take
@@jbenitez22 elaborate, like this: johnny22 sucks because he gave no real criticism and just said "it sucked" like some kind of schoolyard kid. your turn.
I feel like Shang Chi is the only movie from phase 4 that i truly enjoyed from beginning to end
I loved the first 2/3rds, especially the fight scenes, but the ending was mid imo
I liked the part at the end of the movie when they say "some call them love and thunder" when this happened I looked at my cousin and said "HEY JOHN, THAT'S THE NAME OF THE MOOOOOOOVIE"
It sounds like a morbius meme
Nice YMS reference lmfao
I CLAPPED I CLAPPED WHEN THEY SAID THE TITLE
"Ah! He said it!"
Lmfao
The only reason why people think that the CGI is good is because the editors turned the color saturation to 100% so people can look at the pretty colors.
Does this include the Black and White scene
@@racool911 idk camera filter probably
The only reason why people think the CGI is bad is because the media tells you to and u can never have enough, from this film apart from the part where heimdalls son is just a floating head which was terrible the rest of it was pretty good just some parts didn’t fit well. Overall I rlly enjoyed it tho
actually the opposite most of the time, the colors are unsaturated compared to many other movies. That makes it look "real"
@@bighezza1233 When a 2001 a space odyssey came out, there was no such thing as CGI. The fact a 1968 movie looks better than a 2022 movie, you know there is something wrong. Mcu CGI is worse than spider man 2 which came out in 2004 which is incredible to show how bad marvel movies actually look. The only people that will say the CGI looks fine are people that don't watch movies with cinematography, Mcu is beyond lazy for a billion-dollar franchise.
Before, people watched Marvel to have a good time.
Now, it feels like homework.
Thor made me extremely depressed that Spiderverse 2 was delayed a year
But at least they have the balls to delay something if it isn’t finished or done right
Just yesterday i was talking to a friend about this after she saw love and thunder. Im completely saturated from marvel, it feels stale and run into the ground
About the visual effects, many VFX artists are coming out and saying that working for marvel is pretty much hell. Esentially the movie has a big budget but still looks bad because the artists that worked on it were most likely put on a horribly tight deadline and on a life-sucking timecrunch, and made to make changes up until the very last minute, because apparently this is just how marvel operates in regards to visual effects.
Yo wtf? Those poor artists
I guess it's the executives who're trying to rush it.
Wow damn ..
@@escotanner i know right? :( ive seen many of them say that they outright refuse to work with them again and someone who said they had to take a break of like a few months between gigs to recompose
The vfx artist are from around the world. On scene is made by a smaller company, then another scene is taken care of another small company somewhere in the world. Too many cooks in those movies. It's all everyday business.
It’s like they have no confidence in their own ideas anymore, so they feel the need to make everything satirical. Sometimes the most over the top and ‘out there’ concepts can be the most interesting ones, that’s what got me into superheroes in the first place.
i call this "the sonic effect"
@@thebradzone3922 What does that mean?
It's been this way since Avengers 1. Joss gave D$sney the formula for making $1 billion per movie. Lots of CGI and too-hip 1 liners for the millennials and zoomers who think everything has to be ironic. So adults can go to movies about superheroes made by Disney and not feel embarrassed, because the jokes always remind you that it's all ridiculous anyway.
They literally had the comics for reference they're just stupid
@@luvcherry gorr was the least threatening villain I've ever seen
I dropped the MCU right after Multiverse of Madness. I'm done giving them my money. And tons of other ppl are as well.
Totally agree... sadly it felt like a mockery / parody of itself.
What also felt so odd was hearing the same joke about Orgies again and again when a huge audience are kids.... felt so odd and cringey, like i was listening to nails on a chalkboard...
The representation pandering behind this felt cheap to with the bar so damn low...
" it’s just trendy to hate on marvel " No. Marvel has done this to themselves. They overwork underpaid and non unionized vfx artists, they don’t allow actors to have access to the full scripts, they gloat about continuity but don’t have consistency, very few of the writers care very little or give a damn about the characters or the source material, and they have gone for quantity over quality /are overproducing their product to the point of consumer exhaust. They are a multi billion dollar creative monopoly that should be held accountable. Instead of being prise like their untouchable or incapable of being criticized because some people lose the concept of critical thinking in terms of media.
Amen to that!
The cracks are finally showing, and Marvel/Disney needs to be called out on it.
And then the director publicly shames and laughs at your work on a UA-cam video. No wonder so many SFX artists are quitting.
@@amysteriousviewer3772 Yeah...I've seen that, its mess up but really isn't surprising. I don't understand why some people continue to praise Taika like he's a grand tier masterpiece writer, when honestly at best he mediocre and his audience seems to be the lowest common denominator that he most likely knows will eat up anything he throws at them with little to no effort or effect put into what he does. Those that wanted more Taika got want they ask for with him ruining the Thor franchise and turning Thor into a meathead Dudebro low-brow character as well as making everything into a joke with little substance.
@@DI-QueenmoEMino Jesus Christ you all are exhausting. Taika makes one below average film after several great ones and suddenly he’s “mediocre.” The overreacting is insane, you sound as irrational as the supposed lowest common denominator fans you make fun of
dude clearly theyve been making factory movies for ages, hasnt it been obvious
I hate how the MCU has handled Thor. He was portrayed so well in the first movie and has a great character arc of realizing self sacrifice and how to be a proper leader. Sad they turned him into a joke. The MCU doesn’t seem to care about telling a serious Thor story.
I am so pleased to see more people coming out and defending Thor 1 after this absolute abomination of a movie. I adore Thor 1, it got him and his world so, so right.
Thor was a joke ever since endgame, dude was a complete joke and i wasn't even taking him seriously
@@TATACAW69 Absolutely right. 'Bro Thor/Big Lebowski Thor' (an insulting marketing ploy to sell more toys) being ruthlessly nerfed, beaten down with ease by Thanos, being entirely useless the whole movie, having his two movie arc ruined by having Hulk snap everyone back instead of letting Thor redeem himself, having him give up being rightful King to 'King' Valkryie the enslaver and having him be a weepy, fat joke the entire movie where his teammates laugh at him, belittle him, the humans argue with the God on who can snap, and Tony even slaps his pleading hands away while Rhodey does the 'cheesewhiz' joke while he begs to 'do something good, something right'. Endgame killed Thor and Love and Thunder shit on his corpse.
This movie and Thor ragnarok(the “goofy”movies) are arguably some of the best for thors character.
Thor should have the Wakanda treatment
Yes... a single shrine that can be activated with a single object that would grant any wish...
Man this sounds like something Thanos would have used!
It’s sad how saturated the MCU has become
Marvel will eventually release a movie or show that everyone pans. Whether it's from the degrading CGI 'cause they're overwhelming their vfx artists, or from the deteriorating writing 'cause there's too much to connect to and so much to pump out
Something's gonna give 'cause the cracks are showing
Didn't they already did with Morbius?
@@AJ-xc4qe Kinda, but that was Sony so it doesn't entirely count
It's almost like it's based on a mess of a multiversal story that has its ups and downs.
It's called The Eternals
They already did with Eternals. Sure you had a couple fans saying they liked it, but the majority thought that movie was terrible. There’s always gonna be a few fans that’ll like everything Marvel. It’s been a rough year or two for Marvel. All of the shows are garbage, black widow 💀, Shang Chi, Eternals, and now Thor 4. We’ve already been on the decline. I’m still surprised by the praise Shang Chi got.
I honestly feel so similar and I'm definitely sad about it. I've loved everything Marvel and I did really enjoy Shang-Chi and No Way Home, but they really need to dial it back, focus on their bigger characters, and fucking BREATHE (in respect to both the number of properties released and the runtimes being shaved down far too much). Allowing time to breathe is so essential to today's audiences, and yet Disney is making the same mistake they did with Star Wars in the pursuit of sheer greed in so many respects.
Yeah, why did a Ms Marvel have to happen and why was America Chavez in MoM?
I like both characters, but come on! Make a fucking movie, not a crossover dumpster fire!
@@Dave102693 Ms Marvel should've honestly just been introduced in The Marvels movie, or just had an actually interesting show. America, I didn't mind in MoM, I more had a problem with it being too short/rushed, all over the place, ruining Wanda, and not exploring the concept of the multiverse nearly enough.
@@MrRapmaster19 y’all are high. Ms marvel is a highly regarded show by most. Don’t let the number watchers fool you. That show was really good. They did America Chavez badly tho
@@TheIcemanthomas Yeah, America was basically a McGuffin the whole movie, and it took a pep talk from Strange got her to control her powers. Lol
@@MrRapmaster19 ehh I don’t think they ruined Wanda since it was basically following her character post Wandavision. Ppl seem to want to believe that Wanda was a good person in that show, but after the events of the final episode where she basically proved she didn’t learn anything from the experience, her fall from grace was expected.
Doesn’t make me too happy tho, I wish Wandavision’s ending was handled better.
The MCU ended with Endgame. It was definitely their endgame. 2008-2019 MCU is a masterpiece. Rest in Peace.
i remember me and my dad watching marvel movies when i was little and how excited i got when a new one would release, but the recent releases literally just make me sad
I don’t really think Taika’s the only one to blame for the poor quality of the movie, clearly it needed more time to simmer but a little mouse I know needed it to be out asap to keep a frankly unsustainable schedule
I think the Russo's also are to blame for not giving Thor any direction or purpose in Endgame. They made him into a joke, and this movie doubled down on that.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp after Ragnarok and Infinity War he was just about everyone’s favorite cuz of his humor combined with his awesome action scenes. Then End Game ruined him by only making him comedic, but not even funny at that
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp I wouldn’t blame the Russo brothers. Sure they put Thor in a bad predicament, but it’s the job of movie directors and creative team to create and build up Thor. This movie did a bad job and made Thor look like a clown.
More time? Bruh it's been almost 5 years since the last thor film
@@btafbm but how long ago did they actually start making it? Doubt it took 5 years
My favorite part was when Thor said his signature catchphrase it’s thorin’ time and thored over all his enemies
It just doesn't land like it's morbin time
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp morbin time lands?
I think you mean Thorbin' Time.
@@Devon.with.an.i always
Y'all need to stop. Morbin time was more than enough.
“It’s wearing me down. It’s like there a tumor in my skull from watching these movies”
The Lord of the Rings films:
“let me be your doctor sir, I shall cure you of your miseries”
After seeing how they handled Thor and Hulk in Endgame; hell just Endgame in general, I could see the cracks on the quality of the MCU. I'm glad I dipped, and saved myself the disappointment from any other movies, and I'm still surprised how people are still finding enjoyment out a lot of these movies/series.
In a sense, Avengers Endgame is more than just a title.
Thank God I found someone who thinks this.
Too many people are defending this purely because “it’s a comedy”.
That's the thing, if it was legitimately hilarious I wouldn't even mind the shit pacing and story (to an extent, obviously) cause at least I'd be having fun. Almost every joke just fell flat, it was so weird being in a MCU screening and having no one in the audience laugh at any of the jokes.
I've almost only seen people say "it's shit" with zero nuance.
If they removed the god stuff and Gorr I think it would be decent comedy movie.
But Gorr and a comedy movie just doesn't work
@@iamafish7 Well, there isn't any nuance here. It's awful.
@@dalekarmy yeah more people laughed at captain marvel than the entity of this supposed comedy movie
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Infinity War Thor was the best Thor. Lost pretty much everything, had a bit of humor but definitely wasn't overbearing and it was sorta a coping mechanism for him, was serious and had serious drive, was badass and showcased his might and strength, and contributed to the story well. Was his best arc and him at his best movie-wise.
Facts.
The scene with Rocket was pretty good
Agreed, Thor was the best character in iw
His arc could have ended nicely at end of Endgame with him taking up responsibility for his people in new asgard. He would eventually get back in shape and then be a protector of earth. Then his character would take a back seat for a bit. Then maybe he would appear in final avengers 6 as odin level Thor. That would have been satisfying.
@@Natta44 agreed
glad you're staying honest and open about your opinions!
To be fair I have not seen this movie!! But the part you mention about the big action scene being hardly recognizable made me think about the "big battle" in Game of Thrones being absolutely unwatchable bc nobody could see what the fuck was happening during the darkest night.
I’m not quite ready to give up the MCU yet, but if Guardians 3 isn’t good, that might be it for me
on god!
True
been a fan of the mcu since iron man 1 came out, but after doctor strange 2 and thor 4, i don't think i'll be keeping up anymore. gotg3 will be the only movie i'll hold onto.
nahhh if they fuck up guardians 3 i think they'll lose alot of fans lmao the guardians is literally the most lovable cast of characters in the mcu lowkey. if it turns out bad it wont be on james gunn though it'll be because of the dudes overseeing his work.
expect another 2 hr sitcom, especially with Guardians
Gorr the God Butcher deserved way more screentime. At least give us a montage of him BUTCHERING THE GODS!!!! How cool would it have been if Khonshu made a cameo fighting Gorr which would then link him to Thor?
Also, anyone else think Disney was the reason the movie didn't feel complete or free and it's at least not mostly Taika's fault?
Edit: damn, this is one of my highest rated comments on this channel!!!!
Christian Bale said in an interview that he shot scenes of Gorr killing other gods, but Disney cut then out fearing they would go against the family friendly identity of the MCU. Which is insane. I guess orgy and Thor's dick jokes are family friendly but not actual development for the villain.
He should have gotten more screentime than Thor, like Joker got more screentime than Batman in The Dark Knight
@@NCO643 Groomers gonna groom, what else can be said
@@NCO643 are they going backwards? Make MoM have a bunch of heros being murdered, and make a bunch of terrible orgy and dick jokes of Thor, but censor the dude known for killing gods for killing gods?
@@NCO643 Wow. It’s honestly disrespectful that Marvel thinks that because they have a big fan base, means they don’t have to care
Can’t wait for the next marvel video my man!
This is one of the best unhinged rant I have ever heard
I personally thought the CGI was pretty decent, apart from Korg and that one Axl scene. Christian Bale was amazing, but we should've seen him killing more gods. Overall, the movie has a big problem of telling instead of showing, and undercutting pretty much every single scene with jokes. If all of the jokes landed then I probably would've enjoyed the movie more, but having those goats scream 7 times is tragic.
literally christian bales character (already forgot the name bc i only saw him for 14 mins) is my favorite mcu villian i loved the concept but you cant have a twisted sick villian like him with a silly goofy hero like thor imo
@@willduncan2862 I feel like you can do a villain like Gorr in these types of movies, it's just Love and Thunder was way too jokey. If it had the balance of comedy and action that Ragnarok did, then I think the movie would be much better, and Gorr wouldn't feel so out of place. Still loved his character in this movie tho.
The CGI helmets were absolutely awful I couldn't stop staring at them, and the whole movie just didn't look that good to me
@@averyplaysguitar I thought Jane's was fine, but Thor's just didn't look right lol.
@@willduncan2862 Gorr
Reading the title and I sadly have to agree, the mcu's phase 4 is lackluster the only good thing that came out was nwh and moonknight.
Miss Marvel is also a very good MCU series on Disney+
imo even NWH had a lot of problems the stop it from being worth it, the biggest for me was how there were a lot of “Now clap” moments than ones that get you thinking about the characters’ arcs
Tbh nwh wasn't that amazing, I watched it twice in theatres. First time i enjoyed it a lot and second time I was bored
Shang-Chi was amazing soooo
@@Blotto3077 I've done forgot about Shang chi
It really hurts to see these movies loose all its charm. its just not fair for the fan out there whos been loyal since that green guy smashed his way into their hearts. Shows that the creators have now taken the fan base for granted.
This was amazing. You finally put all my thoughts that I have been wrestling with for 1.5 years into words.
This movie is too much of a comedy. What made Thor Ragnorok work so well was that it balanced humor with the serious bits so expertly. So, like a child, the MCU conflated the two: thE ThoR FraNchIse WaS StrOng BecAusE thE JokES wEre StrOng.
I mean, the numbers don’t lie: Thor Ragnorok did the best in ratings compared to Thor and Thor: The Dark World according to Letterboxd. And the difference they made there was making Thor a more humorous character. So for this movie, they decided to double-down on the humor, sacrificing tone and plot in the process.
And tbh, Thor was never meant to be that kind of character at all. Like everyone is saying, Infinity War Thor was the best because he had so much depth and character to him. Rather than comedy just being there, it was used as a crutch for Thor to help him cope with the loss of all his loved ones. Thor can’t be some purely goofy character only there for the laughs. He needs some sort of depth to his character.
The only thing I’ll be looking forward to in Phase 4 is Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and maybe their holiday special (maybe that will be the third movie idk). If James Gunn manages to f this up somehow, then Phase 4 is screwed as we know it.
I hope GOTG 3 to be awesome
James Gunn is a great director and writer, I don't want to have expectations but after rewatching GoTG 1 and 2 and seeing The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker, I'm starting to feel that James Gunn might be able to pull off an amazing finale to conclude GoTG
I feel the same 😂 the biggest thing the film did for me was get me more interested in Guardians 3 lol
Unpopular opinion: I think that Thor 4 is better than Thor Ragnarok. I can't think of a single truly serious and in-depth moment of Thor Ragnarok that wasn't undercut by an unfunny joke. The jokes they did use on many occasions were just not funny.
Examples:
Banner faceplanting on the bifrost bridge
Hela: DiD yOU eVeN LisTeN tO a wORd I SaID??
Thor: Hulk, for once in your life DON'T SMASH
Jeff Goldblum basically just played Jeff Goldblum for the whole movie.
That's not to say that Thor 4 was even in-depth to begin with. Just a fun romp to make the MCU bigger and Kevin Feige/Marvel richer.
Apart from the screaming goats and Jane Foster's catchphrases I thought Thor 4s jokes were a million times better than Ragnarok. Even if Gorr had wasted potential he was a way better villain than Hela. He wasnt half as goofy as Hela was, barely even cracking a joke. The only serious aspect of the movie and performed brilliantly at that.
Im sorry to burst your bubble, but phase 4 was doomed from the start. There is literally no reason this franchise is still going. There’s no main conflict the characters face. No interesting dynamics between characters. The worldbuilding is goofy ahh. It really sucks
Ngl, most people on my cinema laughed more on the goat screaming than the actual joke. Also i cant believe this costed $50 million more than multiverse of madness but managed to look like ass. Maybe most of those money was spent on bale and portman lmao.
The goats screaming was the best part of the movie
@@jewishkidney Its not even that funny and i wholeheartedly agree with you. Aside from CW quality padme thor cgi ofc.
Same, the goats were the only thing I found even a little amusing. But I don't recall actually laughing at anything, goats included.
@@annas4277 i always laughed whenever i saw padme thor since not only its a shit cgi (fucking captain america from a decade ago did it better) but the skin tone between portperson face and her upper biceps are different.
@Anastasia's Secret facts, and it was whack too.
Ironically the first thor movie I was wanting to know what was happening with loki and was waiting for Thor's parts to be done
"How could they spend this much money to make it look this bad?"
Thats called Money laundering my fellow Nick.
Some people hate Multiverse of Madness because some plot hole, but at least that movie took itself seriously and tried to continue Wanda's arc from Wandavision and we were able to see more about Strange and Christine and some changes in his character. On the other hand, Thor 4 was a parody for kids.
I'd disagree with how many times they mention orgies in this movie
Idc if Multiverse of Madness took itself seriously, I was forced to see it and it felt like literal torture. Both this movie and that movie suck.
It was sh*t
Let go, MoM was ass, the whole MCU has fallen apart like shattered glass. Straying off into separate shards of crappy movies and TV shows.
No it just isn’t good
They are at a point where the MCU should have ended.
It started with Iron Man and in Endgame (which holds END in its title), it should have ended with Iron Man.
The Story is complete.
The Characters have gone through their hardships and are (mostly) completed.
Now we are in the "keep it alive" era, where they want to make as much money from the name of Marvel as possible, before dropping it.
People are happy with the end of the third act. We are done.
We need something fresh and new.
But what we get is the same things over and over again, cause there is basically nothing left to do.
Even Spiderman 3 was only good cause it finished the saga of the other 2 Spidermans and their legacy.
Now its only stockpiling new heroes to make a new epic conglomerate of the same things that were started with Iron Man, but the problem of it being in a world that is already completely established.
You cannot write new "secret powerful groups" cause of the question "where were they when Thanos appeared?". What did they all go through with the other supervillains? Whats the Avengers gonna do?
All that stuff is too overwhelming going forward.
They should make a new "MCU" and start it fresh.
Maybe drop the MCU for some years until people crave for it again and focus on completely new things.
I was hoping that they would do this.
Even the CW and DC knew that they had to pull the plug on the Arrowverse (though they did it in the most tasteless way possible) and focus on single-hero universes once again, because it’s hard to do a Star Trek type universe with movies; it would be better if all of these characters were just in a single tv series. No more fucking 7 movies a year and 3 shows a year either!
The pandemic isn’t an excuse either.
It's crazy how I can completely relate with 100% of what you said. It never happened since I'm on UA-cam (almost 10 years on this platform)
Pretty sure a guy who just made a 11 minute video talking about the latest marvel movie ain’t going to stop watching em
Chris H's best moment as Thor was when he was confessing to Rocket about everything he's lost. I was hoping for more serious moments with this character, really lean into the mythology and lore of Thor and play him as he should be. Sadly Chris is more concerned about making Thor be this relatable goofy frat guy still finding himself. Went from being my favorite Avenger to just meh.
Not Chris fault, but writers
Chris is just reading the script given to him and working with what’s in it. The fault lies with the writers and executives so decided that this plot was actually a good idea.
Chris doesn’t have control over his character, he’s given lines and he acts them out as well as he can. Most actors have no influence on their lines, and those who do have very little influence
Chris is an actor, so its not his fault. He just reads the script he is given by the writers, whose fault it is.
I dont know why you think its Chris' fault. His job is to make do what is given to him, not create the script. Don't blame him for the writer's mistakes.
Still thinking bout how the rock guy was left in the default model pose for the poster
I felt like this should have been a lot darker and longer than it should have been
Older MCU movies work by themselves, then they started to create a lot of plot points that actually led to something later, but Phase 4 feels like throwing a lot of ideas and seeing what can you make out of them. Nordic/greek/egyptian (maybe even wakandian) gods, the multiple ways the Multiverse was unlocked, political/mafia stuff, armor wars fuckery, skrulls fuckery, and even more stuff that hasn't been cleared out yet.
the direction is so over the place. Gorr is more like a horror movie ghost/monster than a villain for most of the movie but the movie is so lighthearted that the difference feels awkward. I think that could describe the whole film, awkward. Everything feels like a mash-up of ideas and not in a good way.
exactly. i honestly want them to remake a gorr movie bc i loved the character so much. super wasted potential
@@willduncan2862 not only was gorr's character itself was wasted but i feel like christian bale was not allowed to act in his true potential. He had to become too cartoonish/cartoonishly villainish in order to appeal to children more, most probably the director or marvel execs did that and i hate that. In some scenes Christian Bale showed why people loved him 22 years ago in American Psycho, man can play a psycho well lol
this is why some times it's good to have the studio exert more control over their directors, especially if it's taika who seems to think it's his right to take millions and make a movie as he sees fit, not caring about a franchise and how it's part of a big story arc. it's seriously shocking that disney looked at the film and went "yup, this is good to go" lol
You! How’d you get to be like that.
-Every time I see a movie review that says Thor Love and Thunder is bad and marvel is dying....
I do one push up.
-Holy Cow
I’m just really disappointed with the current state of the MCU. I love the infinity saga even with its flaws but the only good MCU stuff after endgame is Spider-Man and I wish it wasn’t the only one. All the Disney plus shows have just been mediocre at best and all the movies produced by Disney have just been badly written to mediocre. It doesn’t feel like they hire people who know how to actually write movies or care about what they are making
Best thing to come out is debatably moonknight.
Honestly? I dislike Spider-Man personally, but to each their own, I like to think their new peak is moon knight and that’s kinda it
I actually liked Moon Knight tbh
Mcu Spider-Man is so fucking boring.
@@Dave102693 kind of yeah but there's some good stuff in the movies. Honestly their version of the Spiderman origin story is pretty interesting making aunt May his driving Force instead of uncle Ben or Gwen. It is gonna suck though just having no aunt May after cause stories that involve her are ones that I like a lot.
Fun fact: Stan Lee initially wanted to play Odin, but Anthony Hopkins eventually took on the role (with Lee’s seal of approval)
I've read this comment a few days back
I'm glad Stan isn't around to see what they have done to the MCU
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp if he were here I'd imagine the movies would still be good. Or at least better
@@tuarweneruanna I think Stan Lee had no control over the movies, but yeah. The MCU movies today probs would have been less woke, and milked so much if he was still around, but since he's gone people just think they can do anything they want with the stories
@@Snow-xd4rv Stan definitely had a lot of say, as soon as he died you could feel everything shift down
That title was literally what I said when I went out of the cinema
I watched this with my friend and told him it felt like a parody movie the entire time
When Thor said "it's Thorin' time" i cried so loud in the threater, i got kicked out.
Morbius meme suck
💀💀💀💀
Honestly as somebody who has grown up with the MCU I can’t help but feel like the franchise died a long time ago. I know Endgame and infinity war are great movies but I think they truly marked where the MCU died. I’d also go as far to say that the original avengers was the peak for this franchise and everything has been downhill from there.
I agree
I loved the mcu since 2012 and after Endgame I thought that was a good way to close mcu but I still kept up with it but I haven’t liked them
It feels like fan service now 🤷🏼♀️
Considering winter soldier came out after the first avengers, you’d be wrong
@@TheIcemanthomas Tbh I forgot winter soldier even existed, definitely not a hallmark MCU movie in my eyes.
To me 2014/15 is a delineation point where I like things a little less. Infinity war was the end for me, Thanos won, I stopped watching Endgame after about 30 minutes because I hated how everyone was acting.
@@jbbrolic Honestly MCU would've been so much better and ballsy if the entire MCU ended on Infinity War with Thanos winning
See when I think of the final fight being good, I'm thinking of the battle with the kids powered up with Thor's power beating the crap out of the monsters with their Teddie bears. I loved that segment so much and really wanted more stuff like that in the movie instead of 500 bad jokes or a weird running joke of Stormbreaker being jealous.
I honestly thought the opening scene where Gorr kills his first god was just another trailer when I saw this in theaters.
it makes me so sad that you're so right. i miss when we only got one movie a year
We never got one movie a year
I’m honestly feeling MCU burnout. The quality of the MCU has dropped DRASTICALLY since Endgame with the only *REALLY* high points being the Spider-Man movies. I watched WandaVision and Loki all the way through, thought they were decent, didn’t even finish Falcon and Winter Soldier, went to see Black Widow in theaters and it was mid, didn’t even watch Shang-Chi, Eternals or Ms. Marvel, went to see Multiverse of Madness expecting it to be at least a bit good (spoiler alert: it was 🐶💩). I don’t even care anymore.
Great don't watch anymore 🤞
Shang chi was actually good
Shang Chi was pretty good tbh
So are the film crew
Shang Chi and Spiderman No Way Home are the only good MCU movies so far. Don't watch Eternals; it boring.
Thor lost his eye, his weapon, his friends, his family, his entire home, a lot of his people, and lost the battle to Thanos which erased 50% of all life in the universe because he didn’t kill him immediately. Out of all the MCU characters we’ve seen so far, he’s lost the most. Despite this, Marvel just sees him as a goofy comedic relief character.
I can’t blame you. I mean look at last year they were bombarding everyone with new projects and people didn’t necessarily have to time actually plan on a good script and storyline but instead some of the CGI turned out to be so awful, I think Marvel should just take a break from the movies just because I think some of the staff working on certain things on a film/show need time off
It's truly disappointing. The Marvel opening with the fanfare used to be a guarantee that you were about to watch something special. Something that great care went into. The reasons recent outings haven't measured up can be discussed in detail, but the overall problem is simple: Marvel doesn't try as hard anymore.
They can’t because disney is forcing them to pump out these films there should be 1 film a year
@@staringcorgi6475 Agreed. The need to fill up Disney Plus with content is stretching Marvel thin. But Marvel was already too prolific to begin with. I just read they're opening a mini-branch animation studio as well. Outlook not good.
The new movies just feel like budget versions of the orignals
What do you think about the new Black Panther movie coming out lil homie??
A month after hearing that Disney bought Marvel some years back, I got an intuitive feeling that that will be the end of Marvel MCU as we knew it. Disney has been watering down the "Marvel movie magic" that captured many of our attention and love. We are witnessing the end times of the MCU. I had fun while it lasted. I'm not interested in the MCU like I used to be and no longer pay to see their material. Great video here. I agree 💯 👍.
Chris Hemsworth said that the story was sacrificed for jokes, and that’s kind of all modern marvel movies
I agree with this for only Black Widow. If it was only Taskmaster and not the unbearably dumb jokes that ruin serious scenes I would’ve liked it a lot more
It seems like now the MCU is becoming so bad, it's almost becoming CW levels of awful.
That's an insult to CW at this point 😆 The Flash and Arrow are ten times better than this shit is
@@Comedyking48 😂 🤣
@@Comedyking48 dude. No. This movie might not be great, but nothing touches that level. I’d rather watch teletubbies than watch The Flash
@@ma.2089 Very true. I'm now fading away from the MCU as a longtime fan and starting to explore the DCEU more but CW? Hell nah 😂😂
Well said and agreed. If there comes a day when they turn this around, I’ll consider engaging again.
Well depends on what you want. BP2 seems very interesting, Quantumania seems hype, and Gotg vol 3 gonna be a blast
I have VERY VERY LOW EXPECTATIONS FOR GUARDIANS 3
The trailers for phase 4 are better than the actual shows/movies
The sad thing is that I went with two friends to watch Thor L&T, one friend has an early sleep schedule so she passes out in the theater
I ask my other friend “should I wake her up?”
And she goes “nah she’s fine” as we continued to roast and call out the twists and jokes of the movie.
The sad thing was I wish I was her throughout the whole movie 😕
Should’ve let the mcu be after endgame. Too much milking these days
I've only seen one Marvel movie yet somehow I know that everything you're saying is true.
It's sad when greed-infested studio bosses get make the final decisions, not those who actually care about it and are responsible for its production.
Honestly, The Suicide Squad and The Batman are probably my favourite superhero films since Endgame. NWH was a fun romp, full of nostalgia and a heartwarming story, but other than that, I have no interest in the MCU at all. I haven’t watched Shang Chi, Black Widow, MoM and now Thor 4: More Thor. And frankly, I don’t think I ever will. I watched Moon Knight and Ms Marvel because the characters were interesting, and I did enjoy them. But yeah, I’m done. I’m more excited about what DC will come out with now that they seem to be focusing more on great creator driven films.
Exactly. Black Adam & Acquaman 2 from DC looks very interesting
it seems like the DC’s rising (imo) while the MCU’s having it’s fall, Shang-Chi was probably the last stand of the MCU for me before the MCU started to fall (No Way Home’s good though)
@@Locadel2003 what about Shazam 2?
MCU will have burnt out the entire genre within a decade
Ahaha
I know it’s now cool to hate on Marvel. But I really think some people are overreacting to this movie.
However, the MCU formula is really wearing thin. The excessive needle drops (which feel like they are trying to be pale imitators of how strong the immigrant song scene in Ragnarok was), the action scenes where the character just comes out of nowhere, the new actor playing new character from the comics, the “he isn’t really dead”, unfunny sidekicks and soulless CGI (Omnipotencity has some wide shots and the CG just feels kind of cheap even with a strong design).
But Bale was amazing. Some jokes were great and some were awful (mainly from Korg). And I’ll always like Chris hemsworth in the role
Lowkey liked the movie lol, but yeah it definitely could’ve been better
It's called passion. I've always been a Marvel fan, so to see one of my favorite characters be turned into a complete joke is very disheartening. Honestly though, i blame the Russo's for not giving Thor any direction or purpose in Endgame.
yes you put it in words!!! my friend group and i have been a ride or die for marvel since the very first iron man movie {iron man is my all time fav}, but recently we stopped caring about marvel after shang-chi bc we all genuinely liked it. but like i miss the days in marvel where you DIDNT have to watch a show in order to understand the movies! and you could just watch the movies one after the other and have a good ol heckin time yknow!
{ps, i was high the first time i watched this movie with my friends, and even then i still thought it was mid}
Thing is back then CGI was difficult, so these ppl were bound to make ground breaking plot, now CGI is too common even amateurs are using it and big studios are blinding us by crazy visuals effect and CGI so we really forget about the plot, also Disney is busy making remakes. Takia watiti the director is gay, he wanted to represent lgbtq in this movie, 😂for someone who doesn’t know who he is, is willing a direct a movie 😂
I feel like another thing that has worsened the marvel movies is that I dont even know when the climax part is anymore. The pacing is so linear and boring that every fight and act feels like a step to the next one, and I dont even realize that the final fight has taken action until the movie is actually over and im like: "is that it? that doesnt quite feel like it" (as opposed to Top Gun Maverick in which you actually expect the ending after an extremely phenomenal final act that leaves you blown away)
I begin to wonder where those hundreds of millions in budget go because into visual effects and most importantly WRITING they DEFINITELY do NOT.
When the Director makes it obvious he doesn’t care and told us to expect disappointment I lost all hope for him. 🤐
Honestly he’s convinced me now that his successes were nothing but flukes carried by much better writers in his staff and when given total control we got this, so now he’s pretending like it’s the forces around him to save his behind, think of transformers 2 which used the writers strike as their excuse
Who's the director, and did they really say this?
@@Snow-xd4rv Taika Waititi. Idk the truthfulness of that quote, but his lacklustre attitude is thought to be shown through the movie.
@@donuttheturtle2.070 see, I really liked his other ideas and even the last Thor. Haven’t seen this, but I’d feel it’s a mixture of ignorance (getting the wrong idea of how the last movie worked- them saying people liked the funny and overdosed us this time with unnecessary humour), and then classic Disney. Tbh the last few marvel movies directed by other people have the same lazy feel to them to fit in XYZ. So at least to me, it’s a mix of exec-audience pandering, a director who isn’t passionate, and whatever else.
@@cherie..cherry yeah I get ya, also for future reference he did claim to be excited for this film before people made fun of it, he changed his opinions so he’d seem smart, literally when Ragnarok came out he claimed he had this film in mind for his Olán with thor
It's funny how I actually LIKED this movie but also agree with the people who hate this movie ... like, I enjoyed it as it was but I completely get that the plot was lousy, the jokes were mostly cringy (yet I still laughed) and it just felt like a bunch of different tones and themes all smushed together with certain elements needing a lot more time with them
Lol same. I watched yesterday and actually really enjoyed it. Although, I read this comment section and still see plenty of valid criticism. I figure tbh maybe the movie just kind of pandered to me (younger gen Z) because I loved all of the jokes and humour/tone of the movie. But I can understand why others may not like it.
Sounds like me with Spider-Man 3 (from the Raimi movies, of course)
It confuses me how you can 'like' the movie but say well plot was lousy and jokes didn't land. Shouldn't that make you dislike the movie? As plot is literally most important part of a movie. Scares me that the Marvel formula actually does get bums on seats 💺
You went in the theaters with your brain turned off and ignoring the flaws, and that's why you enjoyed it. But I think people have been doing this for long enough. The fans need to start overly criticizing these films instead of just being contempt with everything
@@greigns7781 Yeah but thats not really fun is it. I don’t want to just watch a film and just criticise every moment because that would just put myself down and make me enjoy a film less when I can just enjoy my time
Thank you so much for making this video, you have no idea how happy i was to see another person have the exact same thoughts and opinions as me😂. It’s like they completely gave up after endgame. There’s too much going on, they’re dropping things everywhere like it’s nothing, they are rushing almost every movie and dropping them in too much of a short time, there’s not even a story to follow anymore and if there is then I don’t have a clue about what it is. Please tell me who asked for the eternals and shang-chi??? I don’t even think anyone knows who the eternals. They’re making it so that u need to watch literally everything even the things on Disney plus to find out absolutely everything. That’s not the point of movies at all. Movies is a story, start to finish or a build up into more movies. Something that everything before endgame did so well was the massive build up with thanos and the infinity stones. Now they’re creating villains and not even giving them enough screen time or explaining them enough for us to care. I was absolutely gobsmacked when i saw that both the new avengers movies will be dropping close to eachother in the same year. It’s just all messed up and I’m sure they are slowly losing fans and losing everything they had. DC is outperforming MARVEL and they are having less movies produced. The most recent release was the batman. It’s just tragic. I am a massive fan of both Marvel, or was before all of this mess anyway, and a massive fan of DC. I have always liked DC more but this is just tragic. Marvel needs to take this seriously
oh my god that sponsor transition
The intro with Gorr was more than one minute it was actually pretty long and one of the best origin stories for a villain in the MCU he is one of the best villains in the MCU
My mom went to the first preview of this movie in September. She couldn't say anything about it bc it was an employee only thing but all she said was that 'it was just stupid'. She said the entire theater wrote on their notes paper that on a scale from very good to very bad# everyone she heard said poor to very bad. Now watching this video and hearing that it was basically what my mom said 10 months ago, I don't think I'm gonna watch it even when it's released on Disney+
Even the trailer for the movie looked bad as it was pretentious in a feminist way with colorful scenes to make it look appealing. I thought Lady Thor was a such a forced concept that I predicted that her prescence cringy and terrible even before watching the movie on D-plus and it looks like I was right.
I still have zero idea why you don't have like 5mil subs with the quality of your videos, keep being you man
Might want to go ahead and rethink the title after wakanda forever trailer
I came back to this video with that thought. The Wakanda Forever trailer had me in tears man
Yeah same, these outrage toxic "Marvel is dead"videos are everywhere
I have always despised Marvel for how they constantly take over theaters and overshadow smaller independent movies. I always thought they were generic, and some I think are starting to see it too.
I mean, its not just Marvel who does that, its everyone else owned by Disney and also Sony's Spider-Man
Cringe asf
Every studio does this
@@lordsnow8438 That's a good point. Not EVERY studio, but a lot do.
@@lordsnow8438 breaking thrones pfp
Title is straight to the point. I like that.
I just wish marvel would slow down? This past year feels like they’ve been rushing to close the arcs on some characters but now they’re rushing to introduce all these new ones. And it just feels like so much content for the casual fan.
And that is also a lot of work for VFX artists too.
Thank you for this! Know what would have been interesting -- Gorr getting an actual journey between his daughter dying, meeting his god, and finding the sword, having to work and search for it. Within that journey, it flips to Thor on his self-discovery journey, and they have a segment where Gorr and Thor are meditating at the same time in different places/worlds, for drastically different reasons with different cosmologies. Then playing with the contrast to unpack their cosmologies and make us question and analyze our own beliefs by showing the complexities of each character... which is easier to do when there's a journey to build off of and not "oh, that sword just happened to be there and chose you!" Other characters like Valkyrie, Corg, and Jane have their own moments of struggle and belief searching, even going different directions in their belief yet coming to the same team consensus to accomplish their goal. Buuut nope, we got rushed and reckless for jokes.