How Marvel RUINED HULK

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  • Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
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    00:00 intro
    1:07 The Incredible Hulk 2008
    2:21 Hulk 2012
    3:17 Hulk Age Of Ultron
    3:43 Ragnarok (The Decline)
    4:38 Infinity War
    5:42 Professor Hulk
    Outro Music: Out And About by David Renda
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  • @MistaP13
    @MistaP13 Місяць тому +88

    They turned the Hulk into a overgrown Care Bear!

    • @MarkRosendorf
      @MarkRosendorf 18 днів тому

      At least the commentator, at the end of the video, had a viable way to fix The Hulk. How in the world would you fix what they've done to Thor?

    • @MistaP13
      @MistaP13 18 днів тому +2

      @@MarkRosendorf Shoot bro I think just about the whole Marvel roster needs to be overhauled with the exception of Spider-Man. That’s mainly because he’s technically a Sony property.😂

    • @MarkRosendorf
      @MarkRosendorf День тому

      @@MistaP13 I agree. They've taken Marvel in a terrible direction with all of their characters. Just look at the entire original Avengers roster. They're all either dead or embarrassing parodies of themselves. They recently had the first Avengers movie on TV...the difference between then and now is insane.

  • @wallygator92
    @wallygator92 29 днів тому +61

    I heard that Lou Ferrigno hates what the MCU has done to Hulk.

    • @Mr_Cinematic
      @Mr_Cinematic  27 днів тому +12

      Wouldn't surprise me

    • @rhyslightning3037
      @rhyslightning3037 20 днів тому +6

      Probably why im he didnt return to voice him after avengers 1

    • @jackmarshall3255
      @jackmarshall3255 19 днів тому +6

      I mean I think everyone but marvel hates what they did to the hulk.

    • @LegendXD00
      @LegendXD00 4 дні тому

      @@Mr_Cinematic Can you mute or block @MarkRosendorf , this guy randomly gets into an pointless back and forth with me in the comments and is now trying to harass me by pretending as if something is wrong with me simply because he couldn’t refute my words. I’ve asked him several times to move on but he refuses and keeps coming back to continue arguing, thanks

  • @OptimusPrime298
    @OptimusPrime298 27 днів тому +69

    Edward Norton had the perfect Bruce Banner/Hulk cause he’s unstoppable like a real monster he is

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 24 дні тому +8

      Exactly, he understood the character. Ruffalo is just a yes man that will do whatever they tell him.

    • @terryrocks2j
      @terryrocks2j 20 днів тому +3

      That's why they rid him. He wanted the Hulk to be dark like the comics but they said he was difficult to work with. The same strategy companies used against Henry Cavill when it came to the Witcher.

    • @noir853
      @noir853 11 днів тому +1

      man that factory in Brazil scene were quite "scary", the way Norton's Hulk emerges from the darkness and threw that forklift to those soldier/mercenaries. Its like we want to rooted for their safety even though we knew Hulk is the hero. That's how MENACING The Hulk was back then

    • @MarkRosendorf
      @MarkRosendorf День тому +1

      Edward Norton was also a far far better Banner than Ruffalo...I fully believe that if Norton stayed on as Banner, he'd never let the character get ruined like this.

  • @MohamedTarek-nm7yh
    @MohamedTarek-nm7yh 27 днів тому +114

    Ruined the hulk is an understatement

    • @djrychlak4443
      @djrychlak4443 23 дні тому +5

      From the movies to the comicbooks, the Hulk was turned into a jobber instead of a hero. Hulk is the 13th strongest one there is! doesn't have the same ring to it.

    • @thegreatacolyt1277
      @thegreatacolyt1277 22 дні тому

      Overstatement

    • @leadnsteel1428
      @leadnsteel1428 22 дні тому +2

      Bannerhulk merge wasn't bad but they never used him in the final battle in Endgame.

    • @LegendXD00
      @LegendXD00 20 днів тому +5

      @@leadnsteel1428 It was bad

    • @leadnsteel1428
      @leadnsteel1428 20 днів тому +1

      @@LegendXD00 true. and they also ruined Thor and never used Ant Man much either.

  • @joreyn7656
    @joreyn7656 Місяць тому +68

    My husband was livid on the drive home from Thor Ragnarok bc he said not only did they bring the hulk down to being roughly the same power level as thor, but he said the whole arc on Sakaar meant there would never be a stand alone Planet Hulk storyline in the MCU.

    • @Mr_Cinematic
      @Mr_Cinematic  Місяць тому +8

      Unfortunately

    • @johnmeehan7884
      @johnmeehan7884 25 днів тому

      Your husband isn't a man if he gets livid over fiction.

    • @thundergodd6086
      @thundergodd6086 23 дні тому

      @@Mr_Cinematic Thor is more powerful than the Hulk. Sorry.

    • @LegendXD00
      @LegendXD00 22 дні тому +8

      No he's not. Hulk is definitely more powerful Sorry.

    • @thundergodd6086
      @thundergodd6086 21 день тому +1

      @@LegendXD00 Take of your green-tinted glasses and you'll see that you're definitely long. Hos @$$ was too scared to come out and fight Thanos and Thor whupped his @$$ in Thor Ragnarok.

  • @thereasonwhy5188
    @thereasonwhy5188 28 днів тому +26

    A green winnie the pooh 😅😂

  • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
    @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 24 дні тому +24

    He became Shrek without the accent

  • @see2remember
    @see2remember Місяць тому +41

    I started to dislike the hulk after ragnarock , not because they made him talk more , but because it felt goofy and out of character imo

    • @Detrevnl23
      @Detrevnl23 Місяць тому +4

      i think ragnarok was the best thor movie 🤷

    • @see2remember
      @see2remember Місяць тому +2

      @Detrevnl23 as a movie it was great , i just think a bit of the movie should have toned down the goofy , cuz hulk was kinda treated like comedy and thor was treated like a comedian ... wich i felt like isnt thor 😔, but out of all thor adaptations this one was the best untill they destroyed thor on endgame and afterwards

    • @Detrevnl23
      @Detrevnl23 Місяць тому +1

      @@see2remember i think it is thor though, at least chris hemsworth's portrayal of him. i think the first thor movie really set that he was a comedic character and dark world kind of ruined it

    • @see2remember
      @see2remember Місяць тому +1

      @Detrevnl23 i mean , we dont talk about dark world 🤣
      But i agree , and imo i kinda prefer the first movie thor as a character and his character ark could have continued as normal , but the difference of comedy from the first thor and ragnarock thor is this:
      1st thor = funny cuz he doesnt know human things , so he breaks stuff and talks wierd , that was good imo
      Ragnarock thor is more of a stand up comedian type , he jokes the marvel way like every other character in marvel nowadays 🤣
      What sucks about that is that thor kinda fell in the category of literally every other "tony stark wanna be funny quips"
      Idk tho , i kinda just liked old marvel movies more ... until avengers 1 was a masterpiece , then it started fading , age of ultron was wasted potential of ultron , civil war was a masterpiece, but everything afterward kinda meh

    • @see2remember
      @see2remember Місяць тому

      @Detrevnl23 i mean , we dont talk about dark world 🤣
      But i agree , and imo i kinda prefer the first movie thor as a character and his character ark could have continued as normal , but the difference of comedy from the first thor and ragnarock thor is this:
      1st thor = funny cuz he doesnt know human things , so he breaks stuff and talks wierd , that was good imo
      Ragnarock thor is more of a stand up comedian type , he jokes the marvel way like every other character in marvel nowadays 🤣
      What sucks about that is that thor kinda fell in the category of literally every other "tony stark wanna be funny quips"
      Idk tho , i kinda just liked old marvel movies more ... until avengers 1 was a masterpiece , then it started fading , age of ultron was wasted potential of ultron , civil war was a masterpiece, but everything afterward kinda meh

  • @WiseOne93
    @WiseOne93 Місяць тому +17

    2008 hulk had the best scenes and camera view.

    • @ShockwaveFPSStudios
      @ShockwaveFPSStudios 22 дні тому

      That Hulk… scares me.

    • @MarkRosendorf
      @MarkRosendorf День тому

      2008 Hulk was better in every way...I really don't get why that movie doesn't get more credit. Norton was fantastic as Banner/Hulk.

  • @julianpagano1659
    @julianpagano1659 Місяць тому +55

    What Disney did to The Hulk is character assassination at it's absolute worse... And I'll always fucking hate them for that!

    • @SNESfan8
      @SNESfan8 Місяць тому +6

      My theory is Disney doesn’t like savage Hulk because Hulk is kinda like a horror movie monster… so they just made him a nerd .. 😂… the worst part of that is it came out of nowhere…. There wasn’t even one scene about how Banner merged personality’s with Hulk ..

    • @guywithhat7721
      @guywithhat7721 22 дні тому

      You can thank Universal for that

    • @lazylank
      @lazylank 21 день тому +3

      @@SNESfan8 Yeah, that's the part that really bothered me. I assumed that the merger meant Hulk would lose some strength and rage, and maybe Banner lost some intellect (though he's still way above average). But it would have been nice to at least have a singular, short scene explaining the process a little, and demonstrating that the new version of Hulk was somewhere in between the two extremes of Banner and Hulk.
      He just became "Strong Guy, that likes to dab and take selfies with kids".

    • @diegomossa5228
      @diegomossa5228 19 днів тому +1

      oddio Julian sei vivo

    • @MarkRosendorf
      @MarkRosendorf 18 днів тому

      If what they did to Hulk is character assassination (and I do agree, it is) then what do you call what they did to Thor? We could argue all day which character was destroyed the most...and in the end, we'd both be right.

  • @johnny1902
    @johnny1902 Місяць тому +47

    His downfall started in Ragnarok and it got worse in endgame and continued to get worse in she-hulk

    • @I-speak-U-shut-it
      @I-speak-U-shut-it Місяць тому +6

      facts. the guy who made thor 1 made Thor a badass. should been him to direct Ragnorak

    • @FUh_Que_-
      @FUh_Que_- 26 днів тому

      Ragnarok was complete trash, Waititi is an unfunny hack

    • @rhyslightning3037
      @rhyslightning3037 20 днів тому +2

      @@FUh_Que_- yep the russo brothers fixed him in infinity war but then fucked him up even worse in endgame and then love and thunder just completely killed the character

    • @MarkRosendorf
      @MarkRosendorf День тому

      @@rhyslightning3037 Not worse than Love and Thunder. That was a complete character assassination for no reason other than stupid unfunny jokes.

    • @rhyslightning3037
      @rhyslightning3037 День тому

      @@MarkRosendorf such a shame to coz the could of really dont something great with the god butcher storyline

  • @arjayavon7250
    @arjayavon7250 29 днів тому +15

    told you, Disney ruins everything

    • @Bigquonn
      @Bigquonn 20 днів тому +1

      Everything they touch smh

  • @mlowe7245
    @mlowe7245 Місяць тому +22

    You asked what characters needs to be fixed? I say Marvel needs to be fixed. Period!

    • @renamon303
      @renamon303 25 днів тому +2

      as long blackrock put they wingers in media games movies etc
      nothing will change

  • @FireBomberBassist
    @FireBomberBassist 23 дні тому +8

    Hulk was too masculine. Disney doesnt like that.

  • @stephenchambers7972
    @stephenchambers7972 23 дні тому +7

    we can all agree that if ed norton was still the hulk to this day marvel couldn't turn him into a laughing stock like the current version we have today.

    • @Mr_Cinematic
      @Mr_Cinematic  23 дні тому +2

      I feel like he still would have left at some point due to creative differences

  • @iron-thorne
    @iron-thorne Місяць тому +95

    To be fair, who hasnt Marvel ruined, in Cinematic or comics.

    • @plantgang8738
      @plantgang8738 29 днів тому +4

      Scott lang

    • @Unknownagitation
      @Unknownagitation 29 днів тому +8

      Yeah but nothing to the level as the hulk has been. Hulk is still a charter in the MCU now that hasn’t showed his true power.

    • @thegreatacolyt1277
      @thegreatacolyt1277 27 днів тому +1

      Most characters

    • @joshswicegood3253
      @joshswicegood3253 23 дні тому +6

      The hulk by far…he is the most masculine character so they got to bring him down because he is “toxic” according to the libs.

    • @fafnir7149
      @fafnir7149 23 дні тому +1

      Yeah...

  • @scottdrotos8525
    @scottdrotos8525 22 дні тому +5

    Fun fact about Avengers Endgame: After Black widows death, Smart Hulk does not make a single quip.
    Another fun fact: Banner was the only avenger to defeat a black order member without any outside help.

  • @jbarry1075
    @jbarry1075 22 дні тому +5

    Adding to Infinity War, it was really annoying when Hulk entered, hit Thanos once or twice and then just tried to strangle him? Why would he not just keep punching him? Seems like he was barley trying....something I noticed on my last re-watch.

  • @KingPigeon5988
    @KingPigeon5988 13 днів тому +1

    They Turned arguably one of the most physically powerful characters in fiction to a green oversized puppy

  • @ExorcistReviews
    @ExorcistReviews 26 днів тому +6

    To me, Disney emasculated the Hulk by Endgame and have no intentions of changing him.

  • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
    @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 24 дні тому +8

    Hulk and Thor were absolutely obliterated because of Endgame. They pushed both characters so far outside of who they are.

    • @Mr_Cinematic
      @Mr_Cinematic  23 дні тому +3

      They really did. It's insane because they were the two strongest Avengers

    • @lazylank
      @lazylank 21 день тому +2

      Ahh look at me, I'm fat Thor, ahhhhhh. All my character development meant nothing!

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 21 день тому +2

      @lazylank such a waste. Not only that but they also wasted his over arching story of trying to be a good king. In Endgame he hides from and eventually completely abandons his own people. Leaving in charge some slavery who never regretted the things she did for the Grandmaster. All this after just learning about the importance of Asgard as a people and not just a place. What a waste. Awful garbage writing.

    • @rhyslightning3037
      @rhyslightning3037 20 днів тому +2

      Tried explaining this to someone the other day but they kept defending it.

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp 20 днів тому +2

      @rhyslightning3037 same, happens everytime I bring up any issues I have with Endgame.

  • @StevenLeeMiller
    @StevenLeeMiller Місяць тому +7

    Interesting take. Lol'd at a certain Black Widow related comment. Good video. While I've still generally enjoyed the Hulk in the films there are so many missed opportunities. And that's really the problem with rushing to the team movie format. The Hulk is a rage machine and it is that unrestrained explosion of rage that the viewer can identify with. The cathartic ecstasy of releasing that pent up anger that most of us cage throughout our daily existence. Even Ang Lee's Hulk got that right. Well, Hulk, The Incredible Hulk, Hulk vs., and Planet Hulk. At least we got those.

  • @trashcanjoe4902
    @trashcanjoe4902 Місяць тому +15

    The instant I got out of Infinity War I was pissed, their BIGGEST movie to date with almost every major character in the series still alive, and they completely leave out one of the original avengers and most important characters.

  • @theimage7030
    @theimage7030 29 днів тому +27

    Professor Hulk could've been a badass in the MCU. Imagine he did martial arts training with Cap during the blip, and he also went into combat with giant guns like in the comics. So much wasted potential man 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @s3.14dervision
    @s3.14dervision 17 днів тому +2

    I'm a huge Hulk fan and, like a lot of my other favorite male characters, to say he hasn't been done justice is hyperbolic.

  • @LukeLovesRose
    @LukeLovesRose 25 днів тому +5

    They made a giant green simp.

  • @chipchipperson8609
    @chipchipperson8609 21 день тому +3

    “I want less hulk monster and more green mark ruffalo” said no one ever.

  • @fishertheadore6095
    @fishertheadore6095 Місяць тому +6

    0:27
    Changed their Leadership? King, Bob Iger is still in Charge.

    • @Mr_Cinematic
      @Mr_Cinematic  Місяць тому +1

      It was Bob Chapek for a little while before they brought back iger

  • @Sjono
    @Sjono 24 дні тому +4

    Hulk got beat by Abomination but he didn’t just give up, throw a tantrum and say Bruce should handle it. He got his resolve and started using creative ways to get the upper hand
    Why would Hulk suddenly regress after fighting Thanos? You can’t tell me he’d be okay with his allies getting slaughtered and not wanting to do anything to help, especially after he allegedly ‘matured’ during Ragnorok. That’s just character assassination because the filmmakers didn’t know what else to do with the character.
    Even the merged Brulk creates something as beneficial as a device that can make you age or de-age, yet something as groundbreaking as that gets turned into a throwaway joke like the rest of the character himself

  • @Jcoope2409
    @Jcoope2409 21 день тому +2

    The intro 😂🔥🔥😂

  • @SoulKingBK
    @SoulKingBK 20 днів тому +1

    I think the main problem is undersaleing his power for story purposes. So many times when ever they needed a character to have a feat they use the debasement of the hulk as that feat. Him getting trashed and helpless against thanos and never getting his angry vengeance is the perfect example.
    For some reason thors power level keeps going up and hulk got no moments where he is simply the unparrelled in his strength and rage for the team. There are so many narrative tools they could have used to keep him around his overpowered strength level while still telling a compelling story but they didn't know what to do with him. They fundamentally didn't understand writing his rage power up into the narrative, as proof of this he got his professor hulk form when they needed his strength the most. Even in the comics that is his weakest form because he doesn't have access to it.

  • @WraithPeerc
    @WraithPeerc 23 дні тому +4

    Hulk is basically Shrek at this point

  • @tylertilwick6852
    @tylertilwick6852 23 дні тому +3

    IDGAF what anyone says or thinks, I still stand by the fact that I’ll GLADLY take Hulk (2003) over the MCU Hulk ANY DAY!!

  • @oscarrios6048
    @oscarrios6048 Місяць тому +15

    IMO Mark Ruffalo is a good actor but he is no Hulk or bruce banner.

  • @isaiahtopzmovietalkandmore
    @isaiahtopzmovietalkandmore Місяць тому

    This video right here is on point. The Hulk is my 3rd favorite superhero and to see how the MCU has massacred my boy.... Awesome video. Can't wait to see more 🔥

  • @beekarinsaan
    @beekarinsaan 9 днів тому

    After he mentioned Hulk's third leg and cuts to 3:29 with Bruce sitting that way, I thought it was something else. 🤣😂

  • @tusharroymukherjee3370
    @tusharroymukherjee3370 18 днів тому +1

    Professor Hulk should still have Hulk's physical attributes. Thats my only gripe.

  • @fawning
    @fawning 23 дні тому

    thank you for this video, couldn’t have said it better myself 🙌

  • @Skyman7500
    @Skyman7500 23 дні тому +3

    I agree with everything you said. They have disrespected the Hulk. I don't think.Stan Lee would have liked the idea of taking down the Hulk in a few seconds and downgrading the Hulk. The Hulk should get a rematch with Thanos. The writers could have done much better than make the Hulk gonoutbof character. The fightbwas stupid and cheaply done.

    • @rhyslightning3037
      @rhyslightning3037 20 днів тому

      I mean him losing to thanos makes sense from a story telling standpoint as it shows how much of a threat thanos is. But yh it probably should have gone on abit longer and hulk should definitely not got scared of thanos we all know hulk believes himself to be the strongest there is so he would never back down from anyone

  • @godzillawashere
    @godzillawashere Місяць тому +8

    The russo brothers even said they didn't know how to write for the hulk and its ridiculous because hulk has so much potential it was a missed opportunity in endgames finale but instead they gave him a messed up arm and comic relief
    It was also a slap in the face when he showed up in the infinity war trailer but disappeared completely in the beginning

    • @Mr_Cinematic
      @Mr_Cinematic  Місяць тому +2

      Yeah, it makes no sense that they wouldn't at least try to come up with a plan for the Hulk. He's one of the original Avengers, and he's an essential part of the team. They did a great job with those Avengers movies, but the Hulk was a missed opportunity.

    • @MOH_AL_K
      @MOH_AL_K Місяць тому +2

      Nah, it was a Marvel/Disney decision, Not a Russos decision. If Marvel/Disney weren’t the ones that made that call, they would’ve fixed it by now.

    • @wambokodavid7109
      @wambokodavid7109 Місяць тому +1

      Its better to be honest than lie look what they did to characters they knew to write...chefs kiss.sees to me they know how to write street Level characters

  • @mlowe7245
    @mlowe7245 25 днів тому +1

    So far 6.6K views and 113 comments. You are on fire🔥🔥👍

    • @Mr_Cinematic
      @Mr_Cinematic  25 днів тому +1

      Thanks! Wasn't expecting this many views 😂

  • @countessfelicia
    @countessfelicia 19 днів тому +2

    Mark is the one of the reasons

  • @reypumps
    @reypumps 18 днів тому +2

    They turn hulk to shrek

  • @jayblack8843
    @jayblack8843 12 днів тому

    I could pay good money to have World War Hulk done WELL.
    Marvel gets a chance to introduce a BUNCH of new characters, and we get to witness the Hulk that could break the world if he wanted.
    Yes, plz!

  • @nagarjunvailaya9458
    @nagarjunvailaya9458 Місяць тому +2

    They already have a terrifying Hulk for MCU next called She Hulk.

  • @futuretrunks_
    @futuretrunks_ Місяць тому +2

    7:17 this took me out 😂😂

  • @jacobpearson3294
    @jacobpearson3294 14 днів тому +2

    Why did they ruin Hulk from incredible to embarrassing ?
    Should they give him iconic purple pants? His powers are so inconsistent

  • @gregorytaylor240
    @gregorytaylor240 16 днів тому

    Having Hulk lose to Thanos was a terrible idea WTF was marvel thinking

  • @coryharris1082
    @coryharris1082 Місяць тому

    Thank you 🙏🏽 for this video

  • @chikowashere
    @chikowashere 22 дні тому +2

    I hate what they did to Hulk and Thor, Ed Norton's Hulk was great, and I can't stand what they did to Loki. Loki is a bad guy, the God of Mischief, NOT a sympathetic antihero. And I can't stand Mark Ruffalo, he cucked the Hulk long before Marvel Studios did.

  • @MusicLover-my6fo
    @MusicLover-my6fo 26 днів тому +1

    I haven't heard any theories that Marvel Studios is going to kill off Skaar when they're clearly setting up the Young Avengers, but there is a way to use Skaar to further Hulk's character. Ritson's final act in Secret Invasion is to "declare all off world species enemy combatants" as Ritson wants the government to "find and kill every last one of them." Since Ross will replace Ritson as President in the MCU in Brave New World, Ross will still work with Ritson's act especially when he finds out that Skaar was born off world. If Hulk sees the man who ruined his life attempt to kill his son, he'll finally return to the savage Hulk or unleash the World Breaker.

    • @Mr_Cinematic
      @Mr_Cinematic  25 днів тому

      That still sounds better than what we have currently

  • @arnellyjelly2553
    @arnellyjelly2553 20 днів тому +2

    Still hoping for an Eric Bana Hulk vs Wolverine in the upcoming movie 😤

  • @realdeal3861
    @realdeal3861 21 день тому +2

    Hulk now is no more than a circus strong man.

  • @biguy617
    @biguy617 Місяць тому +2

    Bob Iger isn’t much of a change in leadership when he was in charge before and created many of the problems we have now.

  • @Dellgordoo
    @Dellgordoo Місяць тому +2

    Yoo I like this channel your videos are amazing

  • @FredJackson-hm4ke
    @FredJackson-hm4ke 21 день тому +1

    No lies detected, as a Hulk fan i would have to agree

  • @martinb2213
    @martinb2213 29 днів тому +2

    They turned my favourite character into a green wimp

  • @VLFBERHTwolf
    @VLFBERHTwolf 22 дні тому +1

    Aang Lee's Hulk has it's criticisms but I got into Marvel movies as well a Sam Rami Spider-Man back in the day.

  • @marlonmorgan4286
    @marlonmorgan4286 28 днів тому

    You are spot on wirh this..

  • @willshad
    @willshad 23 дні тому +1

    Blame the 'woke' crowd. By Endgame, they already felt the need to make the most powerful heroes females, and by 'She-Hulk' we all knew she would be the boss babe who was far superior to him in every way.

  • @noir853
    @noir853 11 днів тому

    for an avid MCU follower since 2008, i gotta say that real Hulk actually "died" after the end of 2008 movie...well, in 2012 Avengers he kinda have that 2008-ish Hulk trait, but its going on a downward spiral on him since then.

  • @GoldenfoxxPrime
    @GoldenfoxxPrime 21 день тому

    When the MCU began, my own affinity for Iron Man aside, Marvel had exactly two A-list characters in their arsenal: Spider-Man and the Hulk. I really liked The Incredible Hulk, and right now the cast of Captain America 4 is the _only_ thing that has me at _all_ interested in that film. But since the first Avengers film, Hulk has been ludicrously toned down, and Marvel clearly hasn't had a game plan in mind for Bruce's future since Age of Ultron; no end goal at all. Everything about his role in that film reeks of Whedon not knowing quite what kind of arc to give him, while simultanously asking us to just sort of forget that his fundamental cast of characters from his world and his movie even exist in this universe.
    What they did in Infinity War could've worked in the end if we'd seen him come back from it in Endgame. But it's not even treated like an arc. Instead, we get an all-out brawl with all the MCU heroes, and if there's a scene with Hulk in there after showing us that he's at least physically present (thanks, Wong), I missed it entirely. THAT is frustrating as hell. In an all-out physical offensive with the atomic integrity of the universe at stake, Hulk should by all rights be the guy we see MOST of, one arm or not.
    I'm not even gonna start with She-Hulk. I got two episodes in and gave up. That ending is one of the laziest things I've ever seen; I get full-on "they're not even trying" vibes. Like...Dallas' infamous "last season was all a dream; here's Bobby alive in the shower" routine was less creatively bankrupt than Skaar's introduction. And no, you can't just kill him off and expect any of us to care about it, either. I'm not even sure I could buy that *_Bruce_* would care. "Oh, look. I have a son. Oh, look. He's dead now. Wellll...ThAt JuSt HaPpEnEd!"
    If this is the level of give-a-fuck that _Marvel_ has about things, how the hell are any of _us_ supposed to be invested in this?

  • @David-cv1se
    @David-cv1se 19 днів тому +1

    Disney ruined Marvel just like Star Wars

  • @williamwebb8908
    @williamwebb8908 13 днів тому

    They ruined Thor when they had him teaming up with a bloody talking racoon for god's sake. Lee and Kirby would be horrified at what's happened to their mighty God of Thunder.

  • @OmegaPlato
    @OmegaPlato 16 днів тому

    What should of happened in infinity war is that Hulk should of smashed all of Thanos' armor off before Thanos uses the power stone to knock him out. Thanos just takes off the armor in the next scene anyway and it would show how powerful the stones are.

  • @sosajojo08
    @sosajojo08 6 днів тому

    The worst part of it is that they made Thor more powerful than the Hulk and that is crazy

  • @jesterhead9359
    @jesterhead9359 21 день тому +1

    I knew we were screwed when they gave us 20% of world breaker hulk

  • @nichts_als_die_Wahrheit
    @nichts_als_die_Wahrheit 22 дні тому +1

    04:24 This is the whole problem with all the Marvel Movies, they make too many jokes, even the cartoon for the kids was more seriously then the movies for adults.

  • @bullyholland3241
    @bullyholland3241 19 днів тому

    Idk if you knew this but. In comics we seen Bruce's own persona in Hulk form while battling Thor. Bruce was cocky and hungered to fight more. However he was still... ANGRY! The typical Hulk thing we all know and love.

  • @nafisaustin5063
    @nafisaustin5063 14 днів тому

    Murdered the Hulk!!! MCU can never rebound from this criminal act

  • @TheAmazingBeanieMan
    @TheAmazingBeanieMan 13 днів тому

    Mark Ruffalo was at his best in Avengers 1 and 2. People say he's the "worst", I think it was the writing he was given, the writers for Ragnarok, IW and EG seemed to have not care all that much for the character compared to the others. Ruffalo CAN act, he needed a better ark.

  • @TheyCallMe_TC
    @TheyCallMe_TC 22 дні тому +2

    THE INCREDIBLE HULK IS THE BEST HULK MOVIE

  • @okd00d
    @okd00d 21 день тому

    You forgot to mention that during endgame he was basically benched by the team and was sent as a messenger to The Ancient One.

  • @patricksembo7329
    @patricksembo7329 15 днів тому

    Having Hulk lose to Thanos was a terrible idea WTF was marvel thinking wtf i was pissed

  • @snoozeflu
    @snoozeflu 23 дні тому +1

    I prefer even the Ang Lee Hulk over the Marvel Hulk.
    I guess to fit the storyline for the arrival of Captain Marvel they had to find some way to sideline the most powerful characters, emasculate Hulk and make Thor an overweight fatass.

  • @uriyahmitchell6161
    @uriyahmitchell6161 6 днів тому

    Couldn't agree more I think most of us fans feel the same way

  • @diobrando1488
    @diobrando1488 15 днів тому

    Imo feige nerfed hulk so universal to avoid a sony/spiderman situation and regain the rights to the hulk easily

  • @LukeLovesRose
    @LukeLovesRose 25 днів тому +2

    Personally i think the Eric Bana Hulk should count as the beginning of Hulks tale. And he was far more bada** in that movie... from the guy who made Brokeback Mountain.
    Seriously, is no one ever going to give Ang Lees Hulk any credit?? We got the best General Ross imaginable in that movie

    • @Mr_Cinematic
      @Mr_Cinematic  23 дні тому +2

      I remember that was the first comic book movie I saw in the theater and that hulk terrified me 😂

    • @LukeLovesRose
      @LukeLovesRose 23 дні тому

      @@Mr_Cinematic Yeah and Sam Elliots General Ross could terrify people

  • @alexwatts3862
    @alexwatts3862 Місяць тому

    Well yeah thanos had the power stone so it makes sense that he was able to beat him

  • @moro3475
    @moro3475 12 днів тому

    they even give ant man hulk's biggest feat - one punch big leviatan in avengers 2012

  • @denizen53
    @denizen53 18 днів тому +1

    That's nothing. Did you see what they did to Mar-Vell, the OG Captain Marvel in the Captain Marvel movie?

  • @robinwolstenholme6377
    @robinwolstenholme6377 13 днів тому

    when did the hulk go from drawing his power from the earth to drawing it from the entire univers???

  • @Trollioli
    @Trollioli 21 день тому +1

    Professor Hulk is the weakest of the Hulks. It makes sense that they had more Banner and less Hulk at that point. With that said, the Hulk Vs Thanos fight should have been a much longer fight, for the audiences sake.

  • @jacobyork7064
    @jacobyork7064 25 днів тому +1

    Bring Norton Back

  • @ChristianGrey942
    @ChristianGrey942 19 днів тому +1

    1. Disney bought Marvel in 2009
    2. They Never made a Hulk Sequel. We will never see "Leader" in action.
    3. As movies or time pass by, they make Hulk weaker than weaker.
    4. He gets his ass whoop by Thanos easily, and never to be seen again in Thanos War.
    5. Hulk's official sequel now comes with a new female character named "She-Hulk"
    To be honest I do like She-Hulk but Bruce gets to chill outer space, they basically buried him.

  • @Cobracatcommander
    @Cobracatcommander 19 днів тому +1

    one of the reasons why i left the mcu. gunn's dcu has alot of promise.

  • @jamesdietz29
    @jamesdietz29 19 днів тому

    Now that the mouse owns Marvel I don't think you're ever going to see a Hulk that kills.
    What Marvel ought to do is develop a movie based on The Incredible Hulk #181 and let us have a fight between Hulk and Wolverine! This way he can kill Wolverine since he'll just mend and come back for more.
    They don't even have to follow the comic verbatim... just a knock down bashfest, hell, they could even throw in Deadpool for good measure like they did in the animated short "Hulk vs Wolverine".

  • @TheRafcave
    @TheRafcave Місяць тому

    Us savage Hulk fans demand change! 😤

  • @ozmintheobserver
    @ozmintheobserver 20 днів тому

    Lets not forget that hulk is supposed to be stronger than captain marvel. The more a fight goes on the stronger he gets, is supposed to be how
    fights with the Hulk are supposed to go. They need to stop nerfing characters so hard.

  • @darylwilliams7884
    @darylwilliams7884 18 днів тому

    LOl @ a green Winnie the Pooh is an understatement.

  • @lgbfjb1183
    @lgbfjb1183 18 днів тому

    I wish the mcu took a more dark approach to most of these movies, and shows, much like justice league. She hulk was an abomination as a whole. Hulk has been taking nerf after nerf

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 20 днів тому +2

    You are talking straight facts here MCU has destroyed the Hulk

  • @greywolf7583
    @greywolf7583 Місяць тому

    The way I in vision the way the incredible Hulk is a mindless Monster filled with rage they don't take the character seriously the classic television show from the 70s takes it more serious than today and that sad because that was about 50 years ago😮

  • @chriscapers5129
    @chriscapers5129 26 днів тому +1

    they did that to the winter soldier as well too completely nerfed

  • @ShockwaveFPSStudios
    @ShockwaveFPSStudios 6 днів тому

    I still get nightmares of Ed Norton’s Hulk & the Abomination from the 2008 Hulk film.
    I really think Edward Norton is a fine Bruce Banner, but a very horrifying Hulk. And the Abomination in that movie was just too scary man. I get more nightmares of him then the Hulk.
    I get that the Hulk’s supposed to be scary, but he’s also supposed to be sympathetic… and I get 0 of that from Norton’s Hulk because of how he’s way too scary for me.
    It’s why I prefer the 03 Hulk movie with Eric Bana in addition to Mark Ruffalo in the first two Avengers movies and maybe Ragnarok… because they made the Hulk monstrous, but they still made him sympathetic… whereas Edward Norton made his Hulk too monstrous.
    And you know what the scariest part is… the 2008 Hulk film isn’t even a horror movie, as the 03 Hulk film was a horror movie… and I wasn’t scared from that film compared to the 2008 film.

  • @Sagegabs
    @Sagegabs 9 днів тому

    Something I would've liked to see is that if Tony made equipment for his fellow Avengers like Captain's magnetic gauntlet for his shield. Why not making cool trausers for Bruce's transformations?

  • @lazylank
    @lazylank 21 день тому

    I'm glad I am not the only one who noticed a slow, yet steady decline in the Hulk's powers and abilities as the MCU wore on. I think that Avenger's Hulk is the strongest (even stronger than what we saw in "The Incredible Hulk"). The Hulk from the first Avengers, once he put on the infinity gauntlet, would have been able to rip Thanos in half. Instead, we have a Hulk who barely survives the reverse Thanos snap.
    I don't know what Disney/Marvel's plans are for the Hulk, but I do understand the need to resolve some issues in his character such as finding a way for Bruce to be The Hulk, yet still retain some level of control. Stories require character arcs, which means character growth. You can't keep having The Hulk as a rampaging uncontrollable menace, over and over, because then the story would stagnate.
    In some of the comics, they did introduce a "Grey Hulk" which was a less angry, more intelligent, though less powerful version of green hulk. It was never really clear what would trigger this transformation, and I think the writers mostly used it as an Ex Machina to avoid the same old rampaging just-as-dangerous-as-the-enemy story line.
    It was never really made clear, but I assumed the Nerd-Hulk version we saw in End Game was a re-imagining of Grey Hulk. The movies never really explain it, but I assume that the merging of the two personas meant that both sides lose something. Hulk loses some of his incredible strength, and durability, and Banner loses a bit of intelligence and also undergoes some resultant personality changes.
    The comparison to Superman is interesting. I never really cared much for Superman, because he had no real weaknesses other than an eccentric millionaire (or now billionaire accounting for inflation), and a tiny green rock. He was boring. Hulk on the other hand, was also all powerful, but had to contend with his rage that made him a threat to his friends and loved ones as much as to his enemies. That was interesting.
    It's a shame to see Hulk reduced to just "Strong-Man", but I feel as though this was all so Disney could phase him out, without having to kill him off.
    Great video, by the way.

  • @mylesmulenga-uz6gd
    @mylesmulenga-uz6gd 10 днів тому

    It's nearly impossible to write, produce and make a good hulk movie.

  • @markcharles2819
    @markcharles2819 24 дні тому +1

    They turned him into a coward.

  • @BiggerBadderBrian
    @BiggerBadderBrian 22 дні тому +1

    Agree with everything you said. TBH the MCU was dead to me from Infinity War. First of all making Hulk go AWOL, and then in Endgame neutering Thor from what he became in Ragnarok. Oh yeah, they snipped Vision too in Infinity War. A pattern there......
    I'd rather they had Thanos kill Hulk in Infinity War - make it a bit more brutal, Hulk maybe makes him bleed and then Thanos destroys him - would have been better than them ruining everything about Hulk after Infinity.