This is so close to the album/studio cut that I'm astounded. Such a complicated arrangement yet they really believed in what they were doing. Mental Notes was about 100 years ahead of it's time.
I was so ignorant of what Split Enz was producing in the 1970s that I got Mental Notes and was supremely pissed off that what we got in the States was such dreck compared to great music like this. Then again, we did have DEVO...
Actually it's not....but it is great! They were a great band....but they were actually just doing prog. I believe Genesis was their inspiration. Saw them live four times but the early stuff was the best.
Very astute, as I believe the same . I've love these early recordings wit buckets of tears. The ONLY album I put in front in Mental Notes/Second Thoughts is Selling England By The Pound. Anyone who knows me, knows how DYNAMIC & GENUINE this claim is 🤗
Same here man. I'm 70 also , Saw these fellas for the first time at a Double J concert on Manly Beach New Years Eve gig. This song seriously took me away. Their hair the way they moved the whole experience so incredibly wild and free.
I was 15 in 1975 and saw them at a 2JJ concert in Blacktown supporting Billy Bloody Thorpe. The bikie crowd waiting for Billy hated them, I was astounded, even in the hot afternoon sun they were captivating. Their first three albums are among their best, as it is with a lot of artists.
Hey Wes. I was there and captivated. Had never seen anything like it-not even close. Those bikies were yelling out f off pooftahs etc. It was shameful. I was one of about 20 dancing with my girl and even spoke with them after they finished. I also reckon it was 1976 not 75, but doesn't matter. I understand it was the first gig outside NZ. Became a life long fan that day. How good were the costumes!!!
@@michaelofsydney6128 I reckon you are right on it being 1976, Double Jay began in January 75 and as I recall the concerts were celebrating the one year anniversary. To be fair, it was an eclectic line-up to have Thorpe and Split Enz. Can you remember any other acts rom that day, I can't. as I said, they were captivating and the costumes were a large part of that.
Ah yes, those shithead bikies were heckling us audience goers at Manly beach during Split Enz performance on New Years Eve Double J concert. Bunch of dickheads.
And Tim's vocals. He has such an individual voice, at first it threw me but have quickly come to love it, especially here. "Time For A Change" is a beautiful song.
I love this but preferred the "Beginning of the Enz" album that was done for the UK in about 77/78 I think. Tracks were reproduced by Phil Manzanera of Roxy Music. Last track of side 1 was Charlie but on side 2 all the tracks bled into each other late last night/stranger than fiction/time for a change/walking down a road. When I was in my late teens then I liked listening to it with a beer in the dark with it full volume through my headphones. I am 61 now and still like to do the same. The most underrated band of all time in my opinion.
This early Split Enz stuff is amazing and future generations are gonna love them. Shame really the band lost they're creative edge in the later years - it seemed the baton was handed onto Neil Finn in a strange way. And boy did he run with it. I love all Enz but the early material was special - i'm sure that had a lot to do with the band line up at the time. Just remember they were one of the first mainstream and possibly the best ever band to come from New Zealand - we're lucky to have them.
Can confirm. I'm 19 and everybody I've ever shown Mental Notes / Second Thoughts era Split Enz to either thinks it's the coolest thing ever or they're completely baffled, or both :) I used to be really scared of the album cover / the early Split Enz aesthetic when I was a little kid but now Mental Notes is my favourite album of all time.
I went to their concert at the mercury theatre around 1975. It was quite incredible had a power house performance I've never seen another band match ever. People just got blown away. Mezmerizing. It was so different but truly magnificent. I will never forget how people felt spell bound walking out. They had something else that was kinda ahead of its time. Punk was soon the rage and the Enz just fizzled out..... timing and their uniqueness faded. This is New Zealand's most creative band that was possible the most creative in the world in 75
today i played my old cassette tapes (maxell xlII was my brand) this song was on it, i didn't new who was the band....Schazam was my rescue. beautiful song!! i glad i re discover them :-)
The fuckin Pink Floyd of NZ! Only discovering Split Enz now. They were absolutely brilliant. Where have I been?!?!?! Tim Finn’s voice is one of the finest I’ve heard; it can be hauntingly beautiful, whimsical, and seems effortless. So glad to have found them, it’s been quite some time since being this smitten with a band (first two albums masterpieces). Last band that I fell for like this was Mondo Drag out of Oakland. CA. Anyway, brilliant. Enz are absolutely brilliant.
They were Quite unique back then. Ahead of their time. I remember first seeing them shortly after this and thinking these guys are nuts or genius. The later proved correct.
Thanks so much for sharing this. It's wonderful. Damn 70s TV and their lame special effects, though... early Split Enz were so fascinating to watch and we can't even see them here.... sigh.
That guitar riff in "Stranger Than Fiction"... Dum, dadada, dum, dadada... dum, dadada da da da da da. Been ingrained in my head since the first time I heard it. Love it. Shame about the bloody graphic effects, but that was the seventies for you!
Saw them twice live around this time in Melbourne. First time supporting Ayers Rock, second time headlining. Different line-ups, but both absolutely brilliant shows.
TR Ship wtf are you even talking about fella. The enz inspiration came from the English prog rock scene at the time like Genesis, king crimson, yes, pink floyd, gentle giant and Jethro tull.
It's fruity, It's complicated , it's far reaching and stretching into the unknown, It's also the birthplace and nursery in retrospect to what we now know, allowed two talented chaps to experiment and hone what will become some great songwriting skills, go on and create a dynasty of truly unique and non generic fresh new music the world had not seen before.
saw these guys when they first came to california, they were in full gear, strobe lights and, everything! Phil Manzanera was there too, he did their 1st lp
@@santanocci TO explain: the first LP released in the US was called Second Thoughts, which was mostly a re-recorded and Manzanera-produced version of their actual debut album, Mental Notes, which I think was only released in Australia and NZ. Something like that anyway. Both are excellent in their own ways.
@@newsles2 To clarify, their 1st LP released in Australia/New Zealand in 1975 was Mental Notes , in 1976 a number of the Mental Notes tracks plus a couple of tracks recorded in NZ in 73/74 were re-recorded in the UK and produced by Phil Manzanera. This album was titled Second Thoughts in Australia/New Zealand.released in 1976. Also in 1976, in the UK/Europe/USA they titled it Mental Notes, this had an identical track listing to Second Thoughts with the addition of title track Mental Notes .
their early stuff was the best . not commercial but top mussos. i wish they would go back to that. the commercial stuff just didnt rate. 'The woman who loves you and the spoons ' 40 plus years ago was just so ahead of its time. and they were awesome live. i wish they would play live now
This is brilliant stuff, love to see artists at work. Excessive potted-plant staging and over-egged 70s video production aside. Just film the artists guys 🙄.
Eh, it is what it is. This kind of nonsense was common in the 70s. You can't be too surprised to see it with highly theatrical bands like early early Genesis and Split Enz. It would have almost been more surprising if this stuff wasn't on it. I'll take what I can get. Until fairly recently for me Split Enz's music started with "I Got You". Had no idea they were once this artsy-fartsy, and I mean that in the most complimentary way. Swear I hear a mellotron, which is catnip to this Genesis and King Crimson fan.
Nathan your mother Tracy Beehag said you were the worst problem child that was .. behaviour always was the issue..get your head together matey..give up the smokes..baa haa..also get those medication pills from ya DR..
Nathan Dee.. real name Nathan Beehag.. he has caused Phillip Judd more problems with the pop father thingy control stuff and also internet and Facebook pranks problems for years..finally Phillip Judd removed Nathan from his contacts and he is doing ok..
This is so close to the album/studio cut that I'm astounded. Such a complicated arrangement yet they really believed in what they were doing. Mental Notes was about 100 years ahead of it's time.
I was so ignorant of what Split Enz was producing in the 1970s that I got Mental Notes and was supremely pissed off that what we got in the States was such dreck compared to great music like this. Then again, we did have DEVO...
Actually it's not....but it is great! They were a great band....but they were actually just doing prog. I believe Genesis was their inspiration. Saw them live four times but the early stuff was the best.
@@stevemurrell6167 Totally. It was exactly of its time. Basically Gabriel/Hackett era Genesis meets Supertramp.
Very astute, as I believe the same . I've love these early recordings wit buckets of tears. The ONLY album I put in front in Mental Notes/Second Thoughts is Selling England By The Pound. Anyone who knows me, knows how DYNAMIC & GENUINE this claim is 🤗
@@cdfree3 With a dose of Roxy Music as well.
Mental Notes was an overlooked masterpiece.
Mental Notes was simply one of the greatest albums of the entire seventies.
Totally agree.
it’s not only the greatest Split Enz album by a million miles, it’s the best album made by a NZ / Aussie band ever. staggeringly brilliant
I love English progressive rock and I agree about Enzs mental notes album, a proper album of class.
It's a stupendous album.
Mental Notes is the finest body of electric music from the South Pacific to date.
Love love this album..l bought this when first came out in 70s….lm 62 now and still my favourite to listen to and never tire of hearing
Now 67 great album👍
still so fresh today
Very early Genesis-sounding. These guys are excellent musicians. Eddie Raynor was SE’s secret weapon.
a band who had 18 different lineups..... and the mainstay keyboard player was the secret weapon? 🤣 watch a few more videos next time
@@coldacre yeah, really. How many different keyboardists did they have during all those changes?
1975.. this just blew my socks off... I am 70 years old now... amazing debut album
Same here man. I'm 70 also , Saw these fellas for the first time at a Double J concert on Manly Beach New Years Eve gig. This song seriously took me away. Their hair the way they moved the whole experience so incredibly wild and free.
I was 15 in 1975 and saw them at a 2JJ concert in Blacktown supporting Billy Bloody Thorpe. The bikie crowd waiting for Billy hated them, I was astounded, even in the hot afternoon sun they were captivating. Their first three albums are among their best, as it is with a lot of artists.
Hey Wes. I was there and captivated. Had never seen anything like it-not even close. Those bikies were yelling out f off pooftahs etc. It was shameful. I was one of about 20 dancing with my girl and even spoke with them after they finished. I also reckon it was 1976 not 75, but doesn't matter. I understand it was the first gig outside NZ. Became a life long fan that day. How good were the costumes!!!
@@michaelofsydney6128 I reckon you are right on it being 1976, Double Jay began in January 75 and as I recall the concerts were celebrating the one year anniversary. To be fair, it was an eclectic line-up to have Thorpe and Split Enz. Can you remember any other acts rom that day, I can't. as I said, they were captivating and the costumes were a large part of that.
Ah yes, those shithead bikies were heckling us audience goers at Manly beach during Split Enz performance on New Years Eve Double J concert. Bunch of dickheads.
Bought this album 1975. Was and still is my favorite ever. Tim you're a feckin legend
But it's Judd who had all the best material
And Tim's vocals. He has such an individual voice, at first it threw me but have quickly come to love it, especially here. "Time For A Change" is a beautiful song.
I think he was a genius, vocally.
I love this but preferred the "Beginning of the Enz" album that was done for the UK in about 77/78 I think. Tracks were reproduced by Phil Manzanera of Roxy Music. Last track of side 1 was Charlie but on side 2 all the tracks bled into each other late last night/stranger than fiction/time for a change/walking down a road. When I was in my late teens then I liked listening to it with a beer in the dark with it full volume through my headphones. I am 61 now and still like to do the same. The most underrated band of all time in my opinion.
This early Split Enz stuff is amazing and future generations are gonna love them. Shame really the band lost they're creative edge in the later years - it seemed the baton was handed onto Neil Finn in a strange way. And boy did he run with it. I love all Enz but the early material was special - i'm sure that had a lot to do with the band line up at the time. Just remember they were one of the first mainstream and possibly the best ever band to come from New Zealand - we're lucky to have them.
Can confirm. I'm 19 and everybody I've ever shown Mental Notes / Second Thoughts era Split Enz to either thinks it's the coolest thing ever or they're completely baffled, or both :)
I used to be really scared of the album cover / the early Split Enz aesthetic when I was a little kid but now Mental Notes is my favourite album of all time.
the rhythm section here was their greatest
No the same after Phil Judd left. Became a pop band with 'hit's. Not that I begrudged them commercial success. Just a shame they had to change.
@@rrr1063 Agreed!!....the stuff Judd did in Schnell Fenster just shows what an incredible amount of the creative talent he really had in the band.
Sublime - such musicianship and creativity. Never to be surpassed.
I went to their concert at the mercury theatre around 1975. It was quite incredible had a power house performance I've never seen another band match ever. People just got blown away. Mezmerizing. It was so different but truly magnificent. I will never forget how people felt spell bound walking out. They had something else that was kinda ahead of its time. Punk was soon the rage and the Enz just fizzled out..... timing and their uniqueness faded. This is New Zealand's most creative band that was possible the most creative in the world in 75
I love the journey they take us on! Floyd and the Door's.... great artist take you away for a moment.
What an amazing performance!
An as good version as that on the album..
Stunning…
My fave band back in 70's Melbourne
Went and saw them every where
love the pre neil era...been from NZ i grew up on this stuff
First band I ever saw live. Queen Margaret Union in Glasgow 1976.
That's great!
I'm a 67 year old American who grew up on many things besides this. I'm now enjoying it immensely for the first time. Love the Finns.
Mr crowther was and still is a genius!
The greatest band with arguably its greatest song. Wonderful.
today i played my old cassette tapes (maxell xlII was my brand) this song was on it, i didn't new who was the band....Schazam was my rescue. beautiful song!! i glad i re discover them :-)
Name a band...GENESIS, SUPERTRAMP.....This groupnof Musos' SLAYED IT!!!! 🇳🇿 KIWI PROUD!!! UP THE WAHS!!!
My favorite piece of all time... Magical; painful... 😢
Truly magnificent
Such genius incredible
The fuckin Pink Floyd of NZ! Only discovering Split Enz now. They were absolutely brilliant. Where have I been?!?!?! Tim Finn’s voice is one of the finest I’ve heard; it can be hauntingly beautiful, whimsical, and seems effortless. So glad to have found them, it’s been quite some time since being this smitten with a band (first two albums masterpieces). Last band that I fell for like this was Mondo Drag out of Oakland. CA. Anyway, brilliant. Enz are absolutely brilliant.
They were Quite unique back then. Ahead of their time. I remember first seeing them shortly after this and thinking these guys are nuts or genius. The later proved correct.
Seeing them play live is still a highlight of my life - video doesn't do justice to their amazing stage act.
Remarkable voice!
Jesus H Christ. What a performance. There is no words to describe this.
the first 5 enz albums were weird but brilliant , nothing commercial but worth a listen but you'll need time and patience and time.
Particularly the first two.
You'll need time and tide
Someone has discovered a cool new video effect and has decided to go mental with it.
Yep, like slow - mo breaking glasses and water in the 80's
I have praise MB..
Michael Black, they should of took mental notes about over use of that effect before going mental with it. 😁 sorry
Just finished installing the new Grass Valley mixer into Studio (21?) I bet!
Love it
Great progressive rock from New Zealand!
Absolutely incredible performance
Thanks so much for sharing this. It's wonderful. Damn 70s TV and their lame special effects, though... early Split Enz were so fascinating to watch and we can't even see them here.... sigh.
That guitar riff in "Stranger Than Fiction"... Dum, dadada, dum, dadada... dum, dadada da da da da da. Been ingrained in my head since the first time I heard it. Love it. Shame about the bloody graphic effects, but that was the seventies for you!
Yes, and Phil Judd gets a raw deal with camera work too.
Curious to think that 'Time for a Change' was a Phil Judd song , yet Tim sings it so beautifully on his piano ...
Yep. Tim Finn is the first person to ever sing a song written by someone else.
🙄
Thank goodness that Harvey and Skipp had 'mental notes' in the collection, wayyyy back in 1979
FANTASTIC!!
Saw them twice live around this time in Melbourne. First time supporting Ayers Rock, second time headlining. Different line-ups, but both absolutely brilliant shows.
I wonder what people thought the first time they heard these guys. Creative is an understatement.
absolutley sublime enz as i remember them , have worn out my "mental notes" LP
Beautiful.
just magic!!!
This is great. Thank you.
Tim reminds me of Richard Davies of Supertramp on Time For A Change, normally Phil reminds me of Peter Hammill of Van Der Graaf Generator!!!
Brilliant
Fantastic!.. Great find
Bloody awesome! Tim Finns vocals are stunning!
Thanks for sharing! Great version!
The enz at their strange progressive best
awesome! what a great discovery
No one seems to remember this Split Wnz. Only the Neil Finn Split Enz, which is still great. Even DJ mates can't remember Maybe.
Wow, can’t believe this is still out here, my fav track. I’m in heaven (sort of)......
wow....what an archive...
Phil Judd is a legend
One of there best
Glorious mono!
I was 14 days old when they filmed this. Useless information, but there it is.
Mind blowing. Inspired stuff unlike anything that was happening in the UK at the time.
WTF? It has Peter Gabriel era Genesis stamped all over it!
TR Ship wtf are you even talking about fella. The enz inspiration came from the English prog rock scene at the time like Genesis, king crimson, yes, pink floyd, gentle giant and Jethro tull.
@@Eleventhearlofmars I'm well aware of those bands and stand by my statement - they were truly unique.
@@trship6274 yes, they did it their own way but they were heavily influenced by the bands I mentioned, they’ve even said as much in docos.
@@Eleventhearlofmars I thought they were just a motley crew of pirates adrift in antipodean timeless time.
Emlyn was at the top of his game here.
This is fantastic. I first got into this album in 1981 and I played it endlessly! Thanks for sharing!
This is awesome!
Tim you're amazing, I still remember seeing split-ends in Bell-Block pup outside New Plymouth way back. More please.
My god,i forgot how this is fabulous
It's fruity, It's complicated , it's far reaching and stretching into the unknown, It's also the birthplace and nursery in retrospect to what we now know, allowed two talented chaps to experiment and hone what will become some great songwriting skills, go on and create a dynasty of truly unique and non generic fresh new music the world had not seen before.
saw these guys when they first came to california, they were in full gear, strobe lights and, everything! Phil Manzanera was there too, he did their 1st lp
He did their 2nd LP.
@@santanocci TO explain: the first LP released in the US was called Second Thoughts, which was mostly a re-recorded and Manzanera-produced version of their actual debut album, Mental Notes, which I think was only released in Australia and NZ. Something like that anyway. Both are excellent in their own ways.
@@newsles2 To clarify, their 1st LP released in Australia/New Zealand in 1975 was Mental Notes , in 1976 a number of the Mental Notes tracks plus a couple of tracks recorded in NZ in 73/74 were re-recorded in the UK and produced by Phil Manzanera. This album was titled Second Thoughts in Australia/New Zealand.released in 1976. Also in 1976, in the UK/Europe/USA they titled it Mental Notes, this had an identical track listing to Second Thoughts with the addition of title track Mental Notes .
@@robmac6508 That's the ticket. A much better description :)
Thus track sounds suspiciously prog rock and
his voice has me thinking Roger Hodgson,
Supertramp with a tad of Caravan!
Great version. Best I have ever heard. Shades of Yes and Pink Floyd.
Shades of Genesis.Selling England By the Pound
@@patrickhoulihan7210 no. Original and not quite so blokey.
I hear a little hint of early David Bowie and very early Alice Cooper in here as well.
Absolutely love that riff at 1:10
me too
People would ask me ,What on Earth are you listening to ? They still do.
They were at least five years ahead of everyone else
priceless
..... Thought they came out in 1979.... Had no idea they've been around this long.
Good song ..
Mental Notes was Split Ends' Dark Side of the Moon, it seems to me.
This is so relaxing to listen to and very ahead of its time... I'd call this video 'Distortion'.
their early stuff was the best . not commercial but top mussos. i wish they would go back to that. the commercial stuff just didnt rate. 'The woman who loves you and the spoons ' 40 plus years ago was just so ahead of its time. and they were awesome live. i wish they would play live now
music for the "hunt".
Wish it didn't have those effects, but great footage nonetheless.
This is like a Chicago blues mixed with a swamp boogie woogie type feel
This is brilliant stuff, love to see artists at work. Excessive potted-plant staging and over-egged 70s video production aside. Just film the artists guys 🙄.
totally George Harrison influenced....who knew? Well...I didn't. So good!!
LOOK AT PHIL SUDDENLY STOPPING
Wow
Prog rock from Enz
Fuck yeah!
Almost prog rock here
Could do without the screen effects but wow great footage of the original guys =)
Eh, it is what it is. This kind of nonsense was common in the 70s. You can't be too surprised to see it with highly theatrical bands like early early Genesis and Split Enz. It would have almost been more surprising if this stuff wasn't on it. I'll take what I can get. Until fairly recently for me Split Enz's music started with "I Got You". Had no idea they were once this artsy-fartsy, and I mean that in the most complimentary way. Swear I hear a mellotron, which is catnip to this Genesis and King Crimson fan.
It sure is what it is Nick. Brilliant!
Ya, you betcha, @@TheBlueskyson.
Nick Webb - Mellotron Catnip 😻 Indeed
Nice mellotron during the last half of Time For A Change
Where did you find this?!!! And have you any more early Split Enz footage?
+Nathan Dee It was on rage a few weeks ago.
You "AGAIN"..I heard from one of your mates that Phil Judd unfriended you on Facebook and as a friend..
Nathan Beehag you have a mutual connection to Donald Trump..you both live in the nuthouse..
Nathan your mother Tracy Beehag said you were the worst problem child that was .. behaviour always was the issue..get your head together matey..give up the smokes..baa haa..also get those medication pills from ya DR..
You silly fool Nathan..FOOL
Let's just watch the band. We don't need special effects here.
Stranger than fiction :shit just got real
Video effects = early CGI
9:46 Yeah @philjuddOFFICIAL That IS the look
you should amend the title to "Stranger than fiction / Time for a change". its 2 songs.
I hear Pink Floyd in this..
Shades of Floyd.
Not shades of Floyd.Shades of Genesis
@@patrickhoulihan7210 Dude stop refuting everyoneit does have shades of Floyd piper at the gates of dawn Animals umaguma etc .. Yes and Genesis
Nathan Dee.. real name Nathan Beehag.. he has caused Phillip Judd more problems with the pop father thingy control stuff and also internet and Facebook pranks problems for years..finally Phillip Judd removed Nathan from his contacts and he is doing ok..
Bittersweet. A record of serious musicians performing serious music before Noel Crombie made their public image a laughing stock.
Loved Crombie on stage, pantomime counterpoint to the band. Excellent spoon player as well