TFS: Bender Upgrade! Rogue Fab M600!!
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- Опубліковано 25 тра 2017
- It takes an awful lot to get a professional Fabricator to switch from one brand to another. In fact, it takes a whole lot. As soon as the Rogue Fab Model 600 hit the doorstep of the shop, it was very clear why this bender would now be the go-to.
In this episode, Justin "the Fabricator" goes over the complete setup of the M600 and shows a couple of really fantastic features that his other bender simply doesn't have.
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This channes has grown so much, I remember the old manual bender videos, no change in quality of the content just more of it! Cudos sir
Great video! I've had their complete builder kit with all the dies for several years. Built a rock crawler cage as my first ever bending project with it. Love it for all the reasons you mentioned and more. For some reason a lot of Fabricators don't give it the respect it deserves.
That bender is sweet, I'll be adding it to my garage shortly, mainly because of this video and Justin's attitude about it. You seem to change my mind about a lot of stuff, bender, TIG machine, not drooling over a Dynasty anymore. Yeah you know what I want now!!! Thanks
Great, just great Justin! Now there is another tool that I can't live without. I'm telling my wife that this one is your fault.
Kenny Fowler Hate mail from the wives and girlfriends is all part of the career.... I can take it! Haha.
@TheFabricatorSeries I envy you for this. I wish I got fan hatemail.
Received mine in today! Will be welding and painting it this week. Your video makes the assembly look like a piece of cake
Justin - you had convinced me - just finished welding mine together last night - painting now.
Amazing videography and personality, man. Much appreciated!
Ive been debating whether or not to pull the trigger on this thing. Finally a great thorough review. Pulling the trigger. Love what you do keep it up.
Awesome! It's well worth it in my opinion. I love this bender.
This video just earned Rogue Fab some more cash. I'm sold on it. Putting it back in and giving it more of a bend sold me. People don't understand how hard that is to do with the other style benders. Thanks Justin.
Dirt Heretic 83 Right on! It's a purchase you won't regret. Thanks for watching!
The Fabrication Series also, this is Jake from Georgia, from your first Facebook group video!
Oh, right on! Cool to see you still around!
I can hear the "click" sound of perfect fit on everything you fab. Amazing knowledgment and I have learned a lot from you. Thank you from Brazil !
That's a really neat bender! Just had a look too and it's pretty well priced as well!
I'm gonna buy one of these literally right now. Tiggin her out looks like practice 🤟
This video has me re-thinking my up-coming bender purchase. . . Thanks for making this video; good stuff as always!!
You'll get far with either bender. You'll get farther with a Rogue. Just ask yourself how many machines you would like to buy...
Thanks for watching!
Glad I watched this before pulling the trigger on a JD2, well worth the cost
I got this rogue bender too and it is really nice, I'm happy to see this bender get more air time it deserves
Definitely a great machine to own!
The Fabrication Series where can I get a bucket seat chair like your sitting on
What does that jack hook up too ?
such high Quality work! love what you do and how you do it
I had already decided to get the Rogue 605 but this video definitely put the cherry on top of my decision. I may just step up to the 625!!
Great build video! Used this to build mine, while Joe is in Hawaii! lol...
Great bender, too!
Thanx Joe!!
Thanx Justin!!
so cool that you can get it broken down like that and weld it together yourself. That must give such an intimate understanding of the equipment
MacDonald RaceWorks It really does. It sounds kind of hoaky to "connect" with your bender, but I really feel I know it in and out after assembling it this way. i had a lot of fun welding it together. Plus - it saved some money.
i get you man. I can imagine how neat that must've been. Love that what sold you on it was the bottle opener and its "automation". can kick back and relax for a bit and let the tool do the work haha
Brilliant!! thanks for the idea
Awesome!! I've got the same bender in my shop.
Right on!
Great video brother!
Thanks for making this. Great vid and execution. It makes me want to buy one to build my own headers rather than buying pre-made.
Hodge-Podge Garage Right on. Thanks for watching.
Been a while, so may already have mentioned it, but rather than fiddle with the spacer washers, either weld them together to a 6" length of 1"x 1/8" strap or make up a one piece spacer with an extension.
The reason to to do this is it is MUCH easier to hold the extension while guiding the spacers into place - if you regularly change the dies, you will definitely appreciate the ease.
Nice review! I'm sold due to the bottle opener!
This is one awesome machine. I only do small things, from 1/16 to 1/2" and only very few larger things. I do this all with some hand tools but somehow that seems impossible after seeing this.
I now need a miniature version of this machine :-D
After looking at tons of benders, i saw you do an actual good review on this one and i bought it lol. Now to weld it together and figure out how to use it!
Danner Coburn Awesome. It's a great bender.
Awesome video great machine
Awesome vid! Thanks!!!
great video. looks effective and sleek
It's an awesome machine! Thanks for watching!
Hey great video and I like the green screen style. Keep the videos coming.
Nice endorsement. Hope roque appreciates you and this video. Your rad. Been watching and learning from you for years now. Thx
i do like the clamp setup. no im thinking i could likely make that type of setup for my protools bender.... do you think it would make it just as easy to toss back in and add to a bend?
This looks like a great design. However, is seems like there is a limit to your offsets since the slack end of the tube is pulled in between the upright supports. Have you had any issues with that?
Now that you've lived with the RF bender for awhile now, is there anything that you'd do differently? Have you upgraded anything?
Ok the clamps I can see the benefit but i see it being a pain to set up too..and the extra throw would be nice but not all that much of an inconvenience. I don't know if I'm sold over the jd2.
Great review...
you sold me on getting 1
I have a jd2 model 3 and do a lot of 1.75 roll cage work and want to upgrade to a hydraulic.... Been debating on selling it and buying the rogue because of the vertical die instead of my horizontal..saves space while working! Although I'm not sold the framework looks kinda thin for what it is... All my framework is like 1" thick....
What size compressor do you use? What is the Gallo and air specs? I saw a dirt every day video using the hf ram and it was slow, yours seems just as fast as your manual jd2
As a turbo E36 owner Id love to see some vids of what you are doing with the Dakar top mount you got there!
alec cogen That car has come and gone. I just did a radiator tuck, IC piping job, and mounted the intercooler. No time for vid work but I did post pics on my Instagram.
Hey. Just wanted to know how do your magnets not disturb the arc from the torch. When I use them, my arc flame just deflects towards the magnets.
By the way, like the videos, very informative .
I’ve been seeing other uses with flatting and snake belly problems. Have you had any of the like problems?
Probably a stupid question, what is it called when you tack without filler rod.
I’d like to do some research on it cause I see some people tack like that and others use the filler rod.
Thanks!!
Yo bro I like ur show i was tell my friends about u because u show is interesting i am form Guyana south America
Justin, Another Great vid! Do you know of any companies that sell similar build it yourself thin wall tubing benders for exhaust tubing? I wasn't sure if the Thin Wall Attachment for the MD600 was for that particular purpose when looking at the Rogue Fab site.
The only thing that bends exhaust tubing is an exhaust tubing bender (aka "compression bender") or a mandrel bender. I've seen some of what the thin wall attachment from Rogue will do, but of course you're limited on OD size.
@@TheFabricatorSeries I had not visited their site for 2 years but Cyber Monday I was tempted to upgrade to a Mandrel bending setup they have. Will do manifold primary size pipe but its a serious investment.
now show us some projects made and measuring for bends please
Take my money!
Could you bend exhaust tubing with this? So you don't have to buy Pre-Bend Mandrel J Kits?
Wonder why he didn't reply to you.
When you bent to 92.5 deg in one stroke did you still end up with a 90 after springback?
I admire your videos and your knowledge. You were my first approach to tube bending.
I was about to purchase Model 32 (very similar to Model3) as the one in your other videos. But now I see you changed to Rogue Fab. What limitations on Model 3 make you change? thanks !
The M3 only does so much. When I outgrew it I had to learn a new machine and pay for it (which is time consuming and annoying). With the Rogue I simply buy an attachment or tool to make it solve a problem. Same machine - new function.
Can this bend aluminum intake tubing to Roll cages and exhaust? Anyone?
I know is an old video but can you a make a how to bend series with this machine exclusively . Thanks in advance
Why does the temp difference during manufacturing determine the difference between millscale and not?
Referencing HREW/CREW mandrel tube.
the page won't load on my phone want to see how much Cost the same bender as you show to us I want one
Weird. Seems to be working on my end. It may be a random SNAFU or the traffic is very high right now. You can always call them (503) 389-5413
What kinda tube are you bending?
is that the 1.75 6 clr die?
i just welded mine together and about to test it out so really glad to see this video.
This one is 1.75/6
Hope you enjoy yours as I do mine. Thanks for watching!
The Fabrication Series
Will it bend exhaust pipe without kinking
Would you buy this again or a JD2?
So its been a few years now would you still buy this and do you still use it?
Could you please tell me what you are welding with? Looks like a Miller Syncrowave 210??
could you do a review? Im looking to buy a tig and would love some feedback and suggestions from someone with so much talent!
Ken Walter That is the Miller Diversion 180. It's been a great welder for the past 5 years that I've owned it. I just upgraded to an Everlast PowerTIG 255EXT and I have an Alpha TIG 200X. Im in love with the Everlast since i started using it. I'll have reviews coming up soon.
Shame so expensive to have shipped as sure could use one of these. One little thing I have done was to true up my magnetic clamps on the milling machine. I was surprised just how a little bit out can throw a job miles out!
Andrew Wilson Shipping cost is a bummer, but worth it in the end for such a great tool. It's definitely a worth while investment. I think I'll throw my magnets on the mill today. That's a great idea.
Andrew Wilson I never thought of running my mag squares on the mill! Thank you for the idea.
Hey have you ever had any experience with jd2's model 54 bender with the rotary indexer? I've been wanting to pull the trigger on a bender but haven't been swayed enough to buy one. I've always liked the 54 but this m600 looks like a great option also. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I have never used the JD2 M54. I did check some features and capabilities of the M54 as well as watch the demo vid. I took into consideration the capabilities and price of the base model M54 vs the M600 and I would suggest that the M600 would be better in the end. You can completely tool up the M600 to run electric/hydraulic for less than the base price of the M54 and it will deliver the same (possibly more) capability in less work space. The footprint of a machine is very important to me since I like having a lot of space. The M600 can roll away into a small corner or space when not in use. it also requires less area to operate.
That's the best unbiased opinion I can give. I hope it helps.
The Fabrication Series like always great points. I appreciate the feed back
I am looking to buy this bender or a JD2 model 32 used. Anybody have one they want to sell? Jim.
Is it harder to bend tubes vertically instead of horizontal like the JD Squared?
you can put this on its side no problem
great hairdoo
I just bought this off your review my only question is if I paint it how do recommend or how do you protect the metal I didn’t know if it would throw things off. If that makes sense?
Josh Zortman Just spray it with a good enamel. Something like industrial machinery paint should hold up well. You could send it out for powder coating as well.
I like the Rustoleum "Hammered" series of enamel - painting mine brown now - green would nice as well - would look like '50s lab equipment!
Awesome video. BTW, your Facebook link is broken. Might want to fix that.
I've just bought the model 32 from jd2 what's your thoughts on it? Great vids by the way
danny alner I've been able to use one a couple times since a few friends have one. It's about the same as my Model 3 (just more capacity). You'll eventually find the same as I did that it will show it's limits.
The Fabrication Series thanks for the reply I'm new to the tube bending game so hopefully it will be a good starting tool I've been finding your vids really helpful in understanding what I've got to do can't wait to do my first bends next week
danny alner No problem. Good luck!
Looks likes he styles his hair with bender lube.
Looks like it would struggle to bends close together and either 90 or 180 from each other.
nice video! starting a buggy project Soon and a bender is definitely a must. any suggestions on diy laser cutting or plasma cutting for metal plate parts? also I'd suggest getting better lighting for your green screen. you need a better key light! look into Quaser tubes from Quasar labs, they are affordable and we use them in the movie industry all the time.
I always outsource my cutting. You can find a lot of quality work for cheap. I'll upgrade my studio lights eventually. I have to respect my budget right now haha.
The Fabrication Series just a suggestion. I feel like if you upgraded your lights and made that part better you'd have more subs which translates to more ad revenue. anyway just a suggestion.
All a work in progress.
That's a nice bender. I used the same cylinder to adapt my own jd2 style manual bender. I use my in the vertical axis takes up about a square foot of floor space. I didn't put return springs on it. I will have to do this I like that. Reading the manual on that cylinder it specifies using it up right. I wonder how long it would last using it in the horizontal axis. Just a thought. At $650 to start its a bit pricey. With my cylinder and all parts with a 1.25" jd2 die Im in at $400 maybe
It will last just as long since all it needs is the oil to pick up. Being crafty is a great money saver, but do also consider the price of the additional materials you had to buy along with the bender and everything else. I won't challenge your claimed investment of "$400 maybe" but I really don't see how that is possible unless you bought used parts or found the biggest sale ever.
A new bender is $300 + $215 for the 90 degree die + $80 for the cylinder + shipping and additional materials for the stand you made to mount it (could be scrap or whatever). However you managed to stay around $400 is something I'd like to know. I'm sure my viewers do as well.
I made the frame of the bender from scrap modeled after the JD2 model 3. I bought the 1.25" 90 degree die 4.5" clr. I bought the cylinder. I bought a 36" piece of 2x3 .120 wall tubing. That I am using as the main frame. I bolted the frame of the bender to it at the top. I welded scrap 1.25" square tubing at the bottom for feet and mounted the cylinder on the bottom just above the feet. I bought various size hitch pins. Add it all up Im in for about $400. I can email pics of it if you like.
I had tried testing my cylinder in the horizontal position and it didn't really want to drive it. So I designed it to be up right.
Very cool. How much is everything?
weld together kit is $650 and assembled and painted is $900. you can also go crazy and get even heavier duty construction, powder coat, huge die sizes and roller pressure rollers and it will set you back $1,820
Head to ww.RogueFab.com for pricing. They make it really budget friendly and offer a lot of options depending on what you need.
I see you got the non HD version. the guy who owns rogue was an aroe space engineer.
Yup. I really don't do a ton of heavy bending. It's cool to think I need HD, but not necessary in my line of work. Thanks for watching!
Great video work. To sell me on it, please bend some 2.5" O.D. 1/4" wall aluminium alloy tube.
if you look on Rogue's site they bend some pretty knarley stuff.
This model only bends up to 2” OD ! :(
what's the best or easiest way to clean a welding magnet?
grumpybill I usually just wipe them off. I'm sure someone will say compressed air, but that's a really bad idea.
The Fabrication Series thanks.
The Fabrication Series why is blowing it off a bad idea?
Yes'm compressed air will get them clean and quick. I wear ear plugs and safety glasses. I wouldn't have an issue doing it without gloves.
Wholy shit I want that tool NOW😛
because of your first season video on tube bending I went with the jd2 just as you had to do some roll bar and strut brace fabricating. ive had it bolted to my shop floor for almost 1.5yr and it hasn't seen a single piece of tube. hopefully my other fabricating and financial commitments will end soon but until then she sits and waits. thanks for the great videos. if you have any dies for the jd2 you are trying to sell I would be interested.
James Todd Stop watching UA-cams and grab some RealTubes! haha. Hope you get to use your bender soon. It will eventually pay for itself.
you selling that oldie moldy bender? let me know!
San Man Nope. I'm keeping it until I tool up the Rogue.
How much cost please
So which bender is your favourite?
I really like the Rogue. The JD is a great machine, but the extra features and functions of the Rogue makes it much more enjoyable.
NO I WANTA SEE
Copy all the parts and have them cut, you can have benders for cheep. I did it basically got mine for free, just buy dies from them.
where is this at to buy?
www.roguefab.com/
I got this bender and maxed out a tube it went all the way to 190 then couldn't get the big die out I had to plasma cut my tube to wiggle it free
No dies will release past 180 degrees.
@@TheFabricatorSeries common sense should have stopped me but I was having fun lol sometimes you got to learn the hard way
decent
Thanks for watching!
But can it do 180° ? 😃
Jako1987 Yes
I have a question. Who is your hair dresser ?
Douglas Alan I don't have a hair dresser.
looks like a decent bender but for a couple hundred more you can get a jd2 model 4 hydraulic unit and not listen to a damn compressor all day lol
The Model 4 does not include the pump. The price is only for the bender and the cylinder. Pump options are either air over hydraulic ( like the Rogue) or electric. If you chose the electric pump, the price of the machine jumps to $2,040 plus shipping, plus the die(s), plus the stand. You'd be about $2,600 into a model 4 before you can even bend a one size of one tube. That's roughly 3 times the price of a Rogue M600. Just food for thought... I ran all the numbers before I got the Rogue.