TFS: TIG Simple - Get A Grip - 8 Ways to Hold a TIG Torch
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- TIG Simple is a new Series in which Justin the Fabricator takes all of the beginner TIG welding woes experienced by new welders and shows you how to work around them. This new series is created based on working experience with beginner or novice TIG welders here at the shop during one of our TIG welding classes.
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I’m learning stuff from you I didn’t even learn from Welding school so I thank you for your knowledge and willingness to share it with people. 👍🏻
All great grips, but what about those that have a thumb control?
Is there a recommendation for this?
I use a thumb wheel at work. The torch lays on my index and middle fingers and I rotate the wheel with my thumb. I'm usually welding someone else's fit-up so it's easier to adjust the heat for me. I usually have a Tig finger on my pinky and ring finger to stay worry free of the heat
For those just starting to watch TFS.
Great content and massive amounts of information to start learning with.
Just damn does he talk fast which means you have to rewind a ton.
And rewatch the same video many MANY times.
Quick tip.
Open the UA-cam options for the video and run it at a 75% playback speed. You can actually follow what he is saying and doing. And quit surprisingly at 75% he speaks like a normal person at a normal speed.
Funny as but saved me having to rewatch the same video over and over again.
Game changer lol thanks
Thanks for the tips, my teacher only gave us a demo on two grips. I've been struggling not to contaminant my spike every bead or two, I'm gonna try some of these grips out.
Thank you for all your work on putting these vids together
I usually go with the jerker grip. I appreciate you not displaying that technique. Thanks for the class. Always progressing.
Best tip I've found is to always keep a light grip on the torch and always keep the tungsten well prepped. After that and getting comfortable with feeding the filler rod, it comes much more easily. A tig finger also really helps.
Good tips. There will be many more in the TIG Simple series as I go through virtually every portion of beginner TIG welding. Thanks for watching!
awesome cant wait. Been following for over a year
Thanks for making them! Do you plan to go in depth with tig welding aluminum and other materials? Mine always seem to come out grainy with 4043 but I do better with 5356
christians131 It's in the plans.
As for the tungsten if ur ever welding and all of the sudden stuff aint working right. Like if ur doing scratch start and it wont light or u cant get the arc all the way down in the root and getting a cresent shape. Ur past due for a sharpening lol. And itll feel like a whole new machine 😂😂
Are there torches on the market with a proper trigger button? You know not such a bulky contraption like seen at 8:46
I would like to see a video of how grip the torch with the amp control wheel, switch, band, etc on it. So far everybody is always showing pedal control
As a 2nd year Apprentice Boilermaker this really helps thanks so much 😊
after stick welding for 45 years i still grab it like a stick welder
which grip is best, the one you need at the particular moment.. :-)
Exactly
I usually always end up at "dip the tip" grip though.
But the advantage is that I am not limited to choose out of the various mixtures of tungstens, I polloute my own as I weld. 😂
Seriously, a big torch with a ridiculously heavy cable might not the best for starting out, but that's what I have...
I have a problem, my tig torch that came with my miller max star 161 has a loose grip that slides off frequently and turns whenever I hold it due to the hose twisting and idk what to do about it. I have to choke up like a pencil on the neck where the body turns into the torch head. My hand cramps from holding it so tightly
I use the "combat knife in the teeth" grip. It gets a little hot occasionally, but it also allows me to taste the weld for efficacy.
Outstanding, I was struggling with the theory on "Walking the Cup".. meaning, I couldn't do it, or 3 minutes into trying to maintain a steady go, I would feel like I just left the gym after a 20 sets of 20 rep's of 200 lbs of curls, just exhausted with my noodle arms. I just fired things up to test this position to walk the cup... WOW!!! Thank you, I had given up on that method, and just thought it was something I couldn't do, until now!!! I need some table time with this now, but it is actually easy, now that it feels comfortable... Again, Thank you, Dru...
Cup walking is primarily a steel pipe welding technique, there are other materials and jobs where this method is 100% not acceptable, those being aluminum, anodized aluminum, polished stainless and sometimes exotics that are not going to be ground/polished, the ceramic cup leaves pecker tracks where the cup pivots, doing so on those materials I mentioned will many times result in termination.
I see your not using a protective mask. The fumes are hazardous you should use a mask and have proper ventilation. I hope you get regular lung checkups, please take care of your health, I really enjoy your videos and want you continue without harm.
Thanks for the information, very helpful. For a new Tig Welder.
Well I officially know I'm a full blown trigger gripper 😎
Right on!
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Great vid. Could you do a short video on "cable management" I find that the weight of the cable can make it really difficult to manipulate the torch. Over the shoulder? On your lap?
neopolythe That's on the list for this series.
Bravo, god learn to tig. i'am INDONESIA
Thanks! Do you use your dominant hand to hold the grip or to hold the filler rod?
Very late but you hold the torch in dominant hand, feed filler with other
yeah I'm a choker but pinky out and index under not over I'm doing 316 stainless 20-18 gauge for seafood lobster tanks and I hate cleaning up welds.....so more control the better the weld less I have to clean
I love the styling hair gel among all that welding equipment on amazon.
great little easter egg
I always did the propper grip because it was easier with my slight tremor. but I did t realize it was a actual grip, we didn't actually learn different grips which is a shame. Party because of covid.
I used the choker almost everyday to do 90% of my welding. I do a lot of thin sheet metal. I need the extreme stability and control the choker provides. Because it's sheet metal I can run a 12-inch bead without it getting hot.👍
First of all, love the videos. Also, I use kind of a combination of the Cigar and Pencil grips, which I have started calling a Pool grip. Since it's very similar to a Closed Finger Bridge that you would use on a Pool Cue, since I spread my Pinky and Ring fingers out to stabilize.
propper/pencil/cigar hybrid grip for me, sometimes choker if I can't prop- gun/handlebar grip at work (rolling style thumb trigger(not a fan))
good vid. a lot of neat ways. good to have this vid in my playlist for future reference. I don't do a lot of TIG. I want to get an Everlast... in Canada. haven't figured that one out yet. shipping is going to kill me. I will get one somehow. lol. good vid.
Thank you sensei
I noticed a lot of people hold the torch in their right hand. Should the torch be held in the dominant hand or the filler rod?
Basically, holding a TIG torch is grabbing it any way it feels good, and allows you to get a good weld.
Jerker grip lol
Definitely one I can't show on a clean channel haha
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Who is the manufacturer of the remote control at about 9:32 in the vid?
What nozzle setup do you have on that torch, it's super short and compact!
good question :)
That looks like standard gas lens and nozzle for 9 or 20 style torches. Without gas lens these torches are even smaller but gas coverage is not that good.
You can buy stubby gas lens kits on ebay or from, they're pretty great
Good😊
I don't use any of those grips. None of those grips are comfortable. None of those grips work good with walking the cup. I walk the cup as much as possible. When I use a tig finger, I hold on to the torch with my thumb and index finger, and use either my middle finger or my ring finger as the tig finger. You mention for those of us that don't use a foot pedal; I have never used a foot pedal and would never be able to. I always scratch start.
John Bergeson Nobody suggested these are the only grips to use haha. These are just the most common.
Offtopic Justin but get some cheap softbox and lighting for the intros so you dont have that dark appearance.. other than that you're doing it great, like a pro.. I dont miss a video.. learned a lot. thanks
My camera settings were off for some unknown reason. I have been fighting with lighting in my stdio and all kinds of stuff for the longest time only to realize my camera was shooting all wrong to begin with haha. Thanks for watching!
Have you tried a Euro style torch? I think it's more comfortable. Thanks
Michael Hodges I used one on a Fronius machine once. I was actually extremely comfortable using it. It felt very natural in my hand.
What everlast machine is thay
THHHHHANKS!
excellent. thanks for taking the time to do this Justin !
Thanks for watching!
Why do you call the pieces of steel, coupons, is it an industry term?
Ever see a discount coupon in a newspaper??
If I bring my own machine etc how much would you charge me for the tig steel and aluminum class?
Bringing your own machine doesn't change the price because we're still using our consumables, gas, power, metal, and staff. The only reason to bring your machine is if we do not have the same one here (which we probably do). If you'd like to send an email or call to discuss, we're always available.
@@TheFabricatorSeries I just got my Miller 220 yesterday and wow tig is way more difficult than I could have imagined. But like you say in your videos practice practice practice. Already getting some decent results but only in ideal conditions and then once stuff gets too hot it goes sideways real quick.
Choker grip Haha
Your vids are super informative. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
i like how you said everything! i will personally fly out to where your at to know everything! been doing it since you been peeing the bed. please show me how to put a root bead in sch 10 pipe!
Chad Jones Listen to the words I spoke instead of your assumptions. I referenced the topic of the class. You will walk out knowing everything we are presenting in the class in reference to the topic. There are thousands of topics.
I'm not a pipe welder. I never have been. I don't plan to be. I also don't offer classes or expert references for pipe welding. I don't plan to either. The closest thing I do for pipe work is using pipe to build turbo manifolds and the procedure is not like pipe work.
I recommend you attend one of our classes to learn what you don't already know. I just request that you listen to what the other instructors and I say when you attend.
Thanks for watching!
@@TheFabricatorSeries Haha... gets what he gets! Didn't really like you at first but in all actuality you present well, make it fun to watch and always include the "why" in the topics. Great work!
I use the chocker mainly, but it gets so hot
Sure does. I mostly use it for fine tack welds or small beads. Thanks for watching!
Does most welders hold the touch with the dominant hand or the wire?
Whichever feels comfortable. I suggest starting with your torch in the dominant hand, but some people feel more comfortable the other way.
hey man is Eastwood tig 200 a good first welder?
Keion Rajcoomar I do not recommend it.
NOPE. Another chinese machine just like Mr tigs junkbox too.
the hardest thing I found learning tig is amperage. too hot hard to keep foot at the right setting aet.
There is no cookie cutter setting for amperage since it works in conjunction with travel speed. I'll be getting into this in great detail in the TIG Simple Series.
Yes, please do
+ 1000
what would be your recommendation for a first tig machine?
Zackary Zerr Buy a transformer non inverter type. It will force you to learn how to tig weld. Those fancy settings and programs make it easier but also take the skill out of it
I bought a lincoln square wave tig 200 last year and I love it.
I'll get into the machines very soon in the TIG Simple Series. There is a lot to consider which I really can't get into (and make it make sense) in just a couple lines of text.
I bet your local argon supplier loves it too. lol Insane postflow.
worldtraveler you ain't kidding lol. It's 17 sec at 200amp though. Most welding I do is like 130amp and below so the post flow isn't too bad
I just bought an Everlast 200dv my first machine, I love it..
Right on!
👍
Thanks for watching!
I know another one. Antizombie greep. Torch must be hot enough, then you're grabbing its hose like a 1.5-2 meters from the torch and starting to rotate it above your head like a crazy. And there's another one -- most powerful. All the same but you must rotate above your head a whole machine.
Thank you for super detailed explanation. I am just starting and only able to hold my torch with a choker grip. It’s a wp-26 with a trigger and molded body so it’s probably closer to a shovel handle in thickness. Should I just go ahead and get a thinner torch and save this one for heavier materials? I am not working on anything thicker than 1/8 steel.
Doesnt hear crickets
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only hear crickets
All jokes aside, I love your videos, keep them coming!
Makes me wonder if I could have gotten away with not mentioning them. Thanks for watching!
Get a grip-ha!