TFS: Working with Titanium & How to Build a Catch Can
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2017
- A double feature episode! Its all about working with titanium and building a custom oil catch can as simplified as Justin the Fabricator can deliver.
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Please don't change... I watched another 'fabrication' channel until recently where it became a blog, then we started going on family vacations with this person and so on... Your skilful, excellent at your videos and they are all about fabrication. Please don't change!
If I ever decide that I want to share my personal life and make video blogs, I'll start another channel for that haha. Thanks for watching!
@@TheFabricatorSeries while plasma cutting titanium, can I shield it with argon?
dude, ive learned more from this guy in 4 youtube vids than i have in 4 days on youtube. hes not completely monotone, hes informative, i can understand and follow him...how do u guys not have more subs!?
Adi Adi Not sure. Maybe some more shares will do...? This channel isn't even 3 years old yet haha. It takes a while to build up subs and viewers and such on specific content. Thanks for watching!
The Fabrication Series hell yea, im prly never gonna be working with titanium or 1000 dollar catch cans but at least i know the purge process you guys talked about in a different video and the whole keepin Ti clean and working carefully w it
Just stumbled on to your show yesterday... SOOO stoked! Your videos are motivating!! I love it that you work out of a simple garage. Thank you for making these videos.
Thanks for watching!
You are only one of the few people i think its worth sitting thru an ad for, hopefully with all the incredible info you put out you get compensated good. I still refer people to the bending videos and they are blown away how someone actually can teach worth a shit these days and come away actually with some good usefull skill. Keep up the incredible work and vids man and awsome new setup also.
I really appreciate that. I'm far from being a UA-cam millionaire haha, but what I do get helps to make better vids.
The oxidation of titanium will form micro fractures that might grow into large cracks if exposed to stress and vibrations. That's why the shield gas is so much more important than on other materials. The coloration at @4:05 is probably no big deal in this application as said but try avoid it if possible and especially around mounting brackets and such that will be exposed to a lot of stress. Try to weld it against a piece of stainless steel and you'll see how fragile it is for impurities, make sure you wear googles ;)
I saw some pipes/craters, increase the slope down to let it cool down slowly and keep moving a little bit so the heat doesn't build up when you stop adding filler.
Ordered the Ticon starter kit on Thursday evening (Irish Time) It arrived in Dublin.ie on Monday morning 9:00 am by DHL. Awesome service
honestly this has to be the best fabrication channel on youtube. I don't know shit about fabbing, but I feel like this videos do a awesome job at informing me and all the spec knowledge I need. Great work!
Just takes info and practice (and a ton of dedication) to do great fab work. The info is where I can help. The rest is on you. Thanks for watching!
I might just have to swing by your shop one of these days. Im not that far. Im from southern Utah and I'm in vegas all the time. Thanks for your time and the awesome videos!
So much information in such a small time period is fantastic, love your videos.
Thanks for watching!
Amazing work as always. Thanks for sharing your expertise with us.
Thanks for watching!
My new favorite show
thanks man
this has to be your best informational video yet
I'm going with "best thus far".... I can top it haha. Thanks for watching!
Love your videos so informative and well done!! Thanks for doing them.
Thanks for watching!
Lots of good information, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Hey man for those just beginning a welding program (Fortis) how would you recommend best approaching Automotive Performance shops in regards to entry level welding positions?
I live in the Metro-Atlanta area and
awesome video. never worked with it but gives me motivation to give it a go
Awesome! Good luck! It's pretty simple stuff at the end of the day. Just takes some extra care and prep.
I have a question, you welded the internal parts to the can, what kept the color or any distortion from showing itself on the outside of the can from that welding? thanks
Can you post a link to your next vid in the description please
Also how much would the materials cost to build the same one at home?
Great info on titanium Thanks
One of my favourite videos on this channel. Cant wait till i get a job so i can get a welder and start fabricating parts!
Right on. Thanks!
The Fabrication Series would I need a MIG welder to get started or could I use a cheap arc welder?
Charlie MIG is more widely used, but you can't do Titanium.
The Fabrication Series so could I weld steel for that of roll bars, or tube chassis reinforcement with a stick welder? or would it be worth it to save another hundred and just buy a cheapo MIG?
DUDE! How did you clone yourself? If I could do that I would get twice as much nothing done at once!
Awesome catch can & video!
How to avoid oxidation on fully enclosed tubing that can't be backpurged? Does it just come down to super tight fit up and heat input?
Great vid, thank you.
Dude your channel! It's amazing! Would love to see a same format video on carbon fiber!
I'll see what I can do. Ihave some CF work coming up. If I have the time in the schedule to shoot it I will.
best intro ever! great job!
Thanks!
Why do you want to make sure the titanium stays cool while cutting, but do heat it up after to get the blue color? Or heat it up before welding so you get the blue pipes with silver welds.
The best part is I used motor cycle exhaust cleaner and it removed the color off my sons Titanium exhaust tip, need I say how upset he was that it F'ed it up. So at the time I didn't know about heating it so I use Coke a Cola & electrolysis to re-color the exhaust tip back to a new color that he liked even better than the factory finish.
Great videos on your channel!
IDEALLY you should weld in a flooded weld chamber for titanium as this will insure not contamination during welding.
Scrap metal? Titanium? Are you related to the Koch Brothers?
Could you talk about the various titanium filler types?
John
Great Video Thanks for the info!
Thanks for watching!
I want to make a catch can with my everlast welder. Working with titanium would be cool too but not much use for that myself.
So which grade is being used here? Cp1 or 6AL-4V?
Great job !
Thanks!
No
Mounting brackets though?
Love the intro!
Thanks!
I checked out Ticon, I was pretty keen to have a go at welding Ti as I have never done that. The sample pack is an awesome idea, but the $50 postage charge to Australia, on the $20 sample pack, means I don't think I will be buying from them. Great for all of you USA guys though.
Send them an email. They usually work with international buyers to help ease the postage charge. They're really cool about it.
The Fabrication Series cheers, will do!
Great videos, as always,
I have a question, I'm looking for high quality hoses for oil coolant etc. where can one purchase metric performance pluming ? (AN fitting and hoses are easy to find) do they exist ?
thanks
G1itzik You could go with Earls. They have pretty much all the hoses and fittings you can think of.
I love that you have to clarify this shit lawl. Follow your wps for your job specifically.
I know you didn't show us your design on the inside of the can for patent pending reasons but can you tell me what goes inside it? Like just a baffle or is there some stainless mesh? Want to build and aluminum one for my k series but don't know if I should put mesh or not?
Try not to over complicate it. A baffle can be anything from mesh, perforated metal, dividers made from sheet metal, or anything you use for it. Some people chose to use a chambered design while others stuff their cans with steel wool or similar. Its all up to the person designing it. Just don't over complicate it. You only need to contain the liquid and release the gas. Simple science.
Have you ever tried back purging with other shielding gases? I've heard of using a cheaper gas for the back side as long as it's not a active gas.
I haven't. I know there are a lot of talks about saving money by switching gasses, but I don't bother.
wow... great channel... so informative, not just building things or bolting things. nothing like ericthecarguys who will show us how to bolt his new roll cage he just been giving by X retailer ? try to make him something he can bolt somewhere then youll skyrocket in subs! im so glad i found you
Maybe I'll reach out to him some day. Thanks for watching!
great information brother.
Thanks!
Very useful, thank you for the video.
How are you tig welding without gloves and not getting shocked?
hey brother insane work your doing!! all the new videos are so cool
but i was thinkig whuld you do some custom things like that can and some stuff for my 1000whp sti???? i,ll ofcorse pay
I can, but unfortunately I dont have the time between welding classes and video production. You'd be waiting for months and months.
I saw video about engine cover vent build, i saw this video, but why you need it how it works?
Thats a very long response to explain. I'll probably have to make another vid on it. It basically allows the crank case to breathe more which increases efficiency and keeps the oils and junk out of the engine. It's mostly for performance, but will also benefit a stock car.
Yay I can't wait to build my own lol
Right on!
Do you have problems with the oxide reaction once the cup has passed over the weld
Great channel
Only if the metal is still above the reactive temperature. The trick is to weld within a zone or range of the gas coverage. Anything outside of that range will oxidize the titanium.
Are you left handed?
What Tungstens do you use? 2% lanth?
I almost always use E3/hybrid tungsten (purple)
what blade did you use on your bandsaw? how did you not squish the tubing? i've been looking at machining a holder die so it doesnt squish.
elijahcbr 600
I use a giant bandsaw at work for on MarC300, 4340, EN30B ANN, T1 down to 6061, and so on. The tubing isn't squished due to feed speed and blade pressure. Turn the blade pressure down and run feed speed up.
Thanks for the reply. Im cutting .035 and if u put even 1ftlb of pressure on the vice to hold it, it squishes. I threw some round wood in my lathe today so i can shove it inside. We'll see how it works out.
It will squish a little but will definitely spring back once you remove it. Cutting a slug for the inside will help as well, but the best thing to do with Ti is to feed very slowly and let the saw do the work (not your muscles). If you feed too fast, the blade will get trashed and it will likely grab and spin the Ti which will be costly if it gets deformed.
Thanks for replying. I found some 5 round wood couch feet at home depot and ran a bolt and nut through the middle. Then lathed then down to fit inside perfect. My horizontal bandsaw cut the pies up pretty easy. Takes about 10 min per cut but thats cool cause i can watch fabricator vids while its cutting. lol
elijahcbr 600 Right on.
is that a special lense for the bbw?
Nope. It's the whole package that comes out of the box.
was that cp1 you used ?
Yes.
why is it that titanium valve spring retainers chip and crack if there stronger then the oem steel retainers? some are said to be checked on and or replaced after 40,000 miles where oem steel can outlive the life of the car!
That's all based on the grade of the titanium. Some are more brittle than others. The term "strength" is applied to the yield strength of titanium vs any other metal. Most titanium grades have a yield strength of over 100,000 PSI whereas A36 mild steel is only 36,000 PSI. Engine parts made from titanium are subject to more vibration in a more harsh environment which is not the best for titanium. I personally don't use many titanium parts because there is little significant gain.
No baffle system in catch can?
There is. I just don't show it publicly because it is proprietary.
How do you cut ti sheets that are too thick to use tin snips on? Obviously i mean without a press brake or any other expensive bit of kit, and leaving you with a piece of metal that you can clean enough for a full strenght weld. How does it react to plasma cutting?
If it is too thick to cut with snips, it usually gets sent out to the shear or done on CNC. While it is possible to cut with snips, it is actually difficult to maintain because Ti is so dense. The metal I cut in the vid was 1mm thick but cuts like 2mm metal with snips. Plasma will cut just fine but special shielding should be used to avoid contamination. Compressed air and oxygen will cause the titanium to react when cutting. You should use compressed nitrogen to cut with plasma or laser.
Thank you. I don't know much about cnc plasma and laser cutting aside from knowing how to send things out to be cut. You mean running nitrogen instead of compressed air to the plasma torch? If so, do you know pressure and flow such a rig would need?
makirompe If you don't have a machine to cut, all you really need to know is how to send a file out. I do it all the time.
Compressed air will contaminate the titanium so you need to substitute compressed air for a shielding gas (most commonly nitrogen) which is also used for the cut (pressure to blow metal away). Every plasma system is different on required pressure as well as the thickness and type of the metal.
Me too. The guys I usually go to, they use nitrogen, and inert gases mix(argon and helium I think judging from the green top of their bottles aside from the black nitrogen ones) both for laser and waterjet. They don't do plasma though. But that does not hold me from the desire of trying. If it wasn't out of curiosity we would still be in caves. I'll let you know if I succeed at something. Have you tried the vertical bandsaw? Given that you can use decent speeds and feeds and adequate coolant for less than instantaneous cuts. I know it's much more practical sending it out, but, for the sake of "science" we need a little sacrifice.
makirompe I have cut with plasma before. It's just not as fine/focused of a cut so plenty of kerf compensation needs to be considered.
I've never used my vertical bandsaw for cutting. I suppose I could try it one day. I'm sure it will work, but it will probably destroy the blade unless there is a really good cooling system (as good as flooding)
Does anyone know what is the best filler metal to use with titanium?
There is no "one filler fits all" with titanium like there is with other metals. The best filler is the correct filler. Everything shown in this vid was CP1 titanium which used CP1 filler rod.
Brilliant thanks for that, keep up these sort of videos big fan
Why can i hear delayed eco of your voice editing?
tungsten selection?
I typically use E3/Hybrid/purple tungsten.
Why didn't you introduce your twin earlier?
Because he sucks at fab. I run the show.
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@@TheFabricatorSeries that was great 🤣 awesome job!
How is it 3x stronger than steel but only 2x stronger than aluminum?
In compared to the same weight
Cant find this product for sale anywhere!
The Moto fixery The titanium catch cans are custom built upon order.
The Fabrication Series
Wwll obviously i didn't look in your closet to see if you had any in stock! You should put a link in the description to the company that makes them so that someone could either price one out, buy oune, or look over the design. I searched the company name you briefly mentioned but cant find much of anything. The only pictures i could find were from this video.
The Moto fixery Ticon Industries is the supplier of the titanium. Merrill Performance is an exclusive brand I own. There is no link to this product because it is custom built to order. If you'd like more info, you can email me on the website which the link is in the description.
titanium is strong but there are applications where it is a terrible choice in material such as knife/sword blade material
just so you are aware of it ... your video is getting cross channel feed back into the voice recording ... you can literally hear you echo with the delay and just down very low in the audible range ... either your audio cable needs to be replaced because its shielding is fubar or your power line needs a choke on it to better a UPS to clean up the power line ...
Where can i buy the original catchcan
I'm not sure what you mean by "original".
The original design of the catchcan you copied. The people who made it first, the guys you copied off. Geez
Bren Z I own the catch can design that I "copied" haha. Merrill Performance is the name of my companynthat produces the parts seen in this video, other videos, and on cars around the world. The only way to get it is to come to my shop and order one. In the future, I might release them on a production run. It's currently an exclusive brand and product.
Are you the guy selling custom titanium catchcans for well over $1000USD? 17:13
Fucken love your videos man. is it possible to use titanium for exhaust system?
Yes. I build titanium exhaust systems all the time but there are a handful of things that need to betaken into account when building one, and they are extremely expensive to fix if you do it wrong.
It certainly is... There are a few MC part companies that use titanium for their exhausts, I presume there are some people using it for car exhausts too. The cost would scale pretty badly though, so you are unlikely to see it often!
27:38 it looks like Homer Simpson
Such useful information interspersed with a shot of welding using bare hands next to a UVC emitting tig device. So sick of seeing professional welders inviting skin cancer.
Why build a catch can out of titanium? Because racecar bro
Exactly over kill ,aluminium or Stainless quite suitable topend racing weight wise maybe.
so where did you learn all this because you seem like you were taught by some old school mentors
My education is a combination of formal training and old school mentors (we used to call "old heads"). I'm pretty lucky to have met a few and even luckier to have the chance to hang over their shoulders.
youtube karens demand disclaimers for each video.
professional catch can >$1,000. WTF are you smoking
loligagger85 Do the math for a 100% titanium can that is not an empty shell. I'm not that far off haha. Real titanium products built with quality is not cheap.
nice rag know somebody that works at a hospital?
Many of my clients are in the medial field haha. They bring me rags all the time.
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There will be more giveaways in the future.
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