Who was Actually the Smartest Jedi in the Clone Wars? - The Definitive Guide to Rahm Kota

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  • @romancapulus5577
    @romancapulus5577 2 роки тому +574

    The Jedi: “A free army given to us by a mysterious benefactor? Sweet!”
    Kota: “You guys are idiots.”

    • @revanius2213
      @revanius2213 2 роки тому +35

      To be fair would you distrust Rex or Fives?

    • @QixTheDS
      @QixTheDS 2 роки тому +96

      @@revanius2213 That’s an unfair question. We only know they’re trustworthy because of spending years with them and seeing their actions. Up front, the clone army is woefully untrustworthy and Kota is correct.

    • @laisphinto6372
      @laisphinto6372 2 роки тому +36

      i trust a real citizen who volunteers any day over a lab Experiment created to be loyal as hell but isnt that ,highly likely going to gobnuts or Something . the experience with clones is mostly droidlike,highly unstable and creepy. sure the kaminoans with pinky promise say that their clones are "perfect" but they are salesmen

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  2 роки тому +28

      Kota knew!!! 😂

    • @maxxor-overworldhero6730
      @maxxor-overworldhero6730 2 роки тому +22

      I think what's worse is that the Council knew something was blatantly suspicious about the army as a whole, yet still decided to work with them.
      If anything, if they all did what Kota did and worked with militias, while the Republic specifically used the Clones, that would've had a fundamentally different effect.

  • @JediAcolyte94
    @JediAcolyte94 2 роки тому +579

    Rahm Kota was a vastly underrated Jedi. The fact that the guy never got a solo novel or comic detailing his time in the Clone Wars or appearing in TCW for an episode or two is not only a missed opportunity but a crime on the writers.

    • @lordkraven8817
      @lordkraven8817 2 роки тому +55

      I always wanted to see kota in an episode of the clone wars he and his militia are very cool

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 2 роки тому +31

      True, although technically he's not Canon given his time is spent only in the non-canon games.
      Still, definitely could've canonized him. Perhaps he meets one Clone or a few who took their chips out like our Main Clone group, and those may be the only ones he trusts and respects.
      Seeing him actually make contact and conversation with a Clone would've been great

    • @NighTMare-gv8gz
      @NighTMare-gv8gz 2 роки тому +17

      Remember that The Force Unleashed was introduced during the final phases of the EU era, so they probably just didn’t have time to give him more attention.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 2 роки тому +6

      Not to mention whatever he did from the end of TFU all the way to the end of the Galactic Civil War.

    • @JediAcolyte94
      @JediAcolyte94 2 роки тому +23

      @@NighTMare-gv8gz Outside of the Force Unleashed Kota's only other appearence is in Battlefront: Elite Squadrons. Considering the fact that both Force Unleashed and TCW came out at the same time there is no excuse for Filoni and the other writers to not have the Jedi game characters barring Shaak Ti to make an appearance.

  • @MatthewChenault
    @MatthewChenault 2 роки тому +101

    Clone fans: *Angry screeching.*
    Rahm Kota: “It looks like we angered the locals.”

  • @alwaysplotting2096
    @alwaysplotting2096 2 роки тому +98

    The Jedi: Let's fight the Sith alongside this army that conveniently showed up right when we needed it.
    Rahm Kota: Are you blind?!

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  2 роки тому +20

      The Jedi: Yes

    • @alwaysplotting2096
      @alwaysplotting2096 2 роки тому +12

      @@geetslys Kota: Fools. You won't catch me taking a lightsaber to the face.

    • @michaelangelomaimone3181
      @michaelangelomaimone3181 2 роки тому +13

      Which is ironic given how his fight with Galen Marek went

    • @andreaskaniclides5167
      @andreaskaniclides5167 2 роки тому +14

      "Are you blind?!"
      I read that quote in orson krennic's voice, and don't know why.

    • @condedooku9750
      @condedooku9750 2 роки тому +5

      @@andreaskaniclides5167
      "Deploy the garrison!"

  • @logandickerson5628
    @logandickerson5628 2 роки тому +184

    I like to think its because of his discipline that he was allowed to be trained, as dicipline is key to staving of the dark side.

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  2 роки тому +23

      Yeah, I gotta agree.

    • @samuelebincoletto637
      @samuelebincoletto637 2 роки тому +21

      That actually make sense, it would explain very well why they did this excetpion with him.

    • @dhaburuk6494
      @dhaburuk6494 2 роки тому +12

      I was wondering how to put into words what could have given the Jedi any faith in him, and you've said it already. Well put.

  • @304Kid
    @304Kid 2 роки тому +9

    I love the fact Kota's overall mindset of the Jedi was "we are peacekeepers and should be proactive, not reactive".

  • @inquisitorgarza312
    @inquisitorgarza312 2 роки тому +150

    Kota ironically could have been what Jedi should have been doing, helping outer rim worlds build up militias to defend themselves against any threat that could pose a threat to their home.

    • @Chaotic_Jackal
      @Chaotic_Jackal 2 роки тому +20

      To be fair they did still do that as we see on worlds like Onderon, Christophsis, and Mon Cala during the Clone Wars tv show.

    • @adfdasdfadfadsfareae
      @adfdasdfadfadsfareae 2 роки тому +2

      So that's why he's got the Founding Fathers' haircut.

    • @rexlumontad5644
      @rexlumontad5644 2 роки тому +2

      @@Chaotic_Jackal They use Clone troopers' blasters

    • @delta2372
      @delta2372 2 роки тому +1

      The republic should have kept a military but ya know rusan reformation

    • @alejandroelluxray5298
      @alejandroelluxray5298 Рік тому +1

      ​@@rexlumontad5644 Those weapons were manufactured by Blast-Tech, so basically anyone could buy a stock of DC-15s to use on militia groups

  • @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
    @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 роки тому +177

    It's impressive how Rahm Kota's men were so loyal to him, they would willingly betray the Empire and risk their lives for their general. It reminds me of how a good chunk of the Republic Navy decided that their loyalties lied with Revan and Malek, not the republic during the Jedi Civil War.

    • @necfreon6259
      @necfreon6259 2 роки тому +9

      Or something like most Roman Empire era generals the term more loyal to generals then the empire was coined by that time

    • @patricianoftheplebs6015
      @patricianoftheplebs6015 2 роки тому +5

      All hail lord revan!
      All hail lord revan!
      All hail lord revan!

    • @fumarc4501
      @fumarc4501 Рік тому

      That’s an interesting comparison.

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 11 місяців тому

      ​@@necfreon6259
      True, although that also had its flaws

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 11 місяців тому +1

      I assumed it was cause they appreciated Revan aiding them, and having better plans than Republic High Command. Presumably I guess

  • @taudvore259
    @taudvore259 2 роки тому +38

    If during his youth Kota had somehow awakened himself to the Force, then Mace and the council might have thought that leaving him in a war zone would inevitably lead him to the Dark Side on his own. They probably thought better late than never to start training him in the ways of the Jedi, choosing the possibility that he could become a fallen Jedi over the certainty that he would become a dark warlord, like Ventress.

    • @kingslayers7
      @kingslayers7 Рік тому +2

      I thought the same thing and would probably be a good way of getting around the age requirement.

  • @CloneScavengerVulpin8389
    @CloneScavengerVulpin8389 2 роки тому +11

    Rahm kota: "we're at war and you want a quiet place to think."

  • @grandadmiralzaarin4962
    @grandadmiralzaarin4962 2 роки тому +44

    Kota is easily my favorite Jedi, followed closely by Katarn and Kenobi. The man was a Warrior, in fact he reminded me a lot of Lord Hoth. A gifted-if reckless- tactician, he was a brilliant Jedi, though unpopular for his unorthodoxy.

    • @laisphinto6372
      @laisphinto6372 2 роки тому +3

      a pain in the Empire ,that jedi is really hard to kill especially since his lightsaber and force abilities are the least of our concerns. Countless setbacks ,always evading our hammerblows ,strikes our weakest points and when reeinforcements arrive he already withdrew. His damage on the empire is too minor for the attention for grand admirals but the sectors he attacks are overwhelmed. If we only had someone who knew how we works what his strategies are...

    • @GyroGarrison
      @GyroGarrison 2 роки тому +2

      Chad of the republic.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 2 роки тому +134

    1:00 Mace Windu: "Anakin Skywalker shall not join the Jedi Order. He's too old."
    Also Mace Windu: *allows Rahm Kota to join despite he is already too old*

    • @yousef501st6
      @yousef501st6 2 роки тому +28

      That's what I was thinking like wow Mace talk about hypocrisy

    • @tomaskops7119
      @tomaskops7119 2 роки тому +11

      How long is Windu in council? Can be Cota accepted to training before Windu became member of council?

    • @shadowaussien7743
      @shadowaussien7743 2 роки тому +12

      Mace windu didn't want it to happen again, never make the same mistake twice.

    • @GyroGarrison
      @GyroGarrison 2 роки тому +4

      Mace wouldn't act on emotion. He sought that all the times that the republic recruited someone old, it more than not refuse to work out.

    • @zandi1603
      @zandi1603 2 роки тому +14

      @@yousef501st6 that man is the walking definition of hypocrisy, he was nearly everything that was wrong with the jedi order

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 2 роки тому +132

    Rahm Kota and his private militia were one of the strongest Rebel cells that opposed the Galactic Empire and they managed to capture Darth Vader at one time.

    • @neofulcrum5013
      @neofulcrum5013 2 роки тому +21

      Even met the clone son of his padawan

    • @necfreon6259
      @necfreon6259 2 роки тому

      @@neofulcrum5013 if you want to call a Sith assassin that Vader was perfectly willing to sacrifice for his own ends a padawan be my guest

    • @neofulcrum5013
      @neofulcrum5013 2 роки тому

      @@necfreon6259 I was talking about x2. You know. The one that becomes a Jedi? Helps renegade squadron? That X2.

    • @necfreon6259
      @necfreon6259 2 роки тому

      @@neofulcrum5013 ... right ( guess there can be clones of robots with a name like x2)

    • @JCHogg-ks3ec
      @JCHogg-ks3ec 2 роки тому

      @@necfreon6259 too bad there’s only one who was the clone of a Jedi.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 2 роки тому +99

    3:44 In another timeline, Rahm Kota wouldn't have been accepted into the Jedi Order but instead joined the Republic Military where he would have made them into the best fighting force in the galaxy just like the Republic Troopers in the past.

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 2 роки тому +9

      Or at least near the level of the Clones, so they wouldn't be the only ones giving the CIS hell on the battlefield

    • @hunterv9983
      @hunterv9983 2 роки тому +2

      Hopefully he was accepting of Jedi.

    • @mill2712
      @mill2712 2 роки тому +3

      You think it possible that though he was never officially taken as a jedi, some jedi may have found out he was force sensitive and trained him under his or her own initiative or perhaps he was trained later on in the galactic civil war.

    • @delta2372
      @delta2372 2 роки тому +4

      With the restrictions of rusan lifted I'm sure kota would have had a blast recruiting troops like in the old days against the mandalorians and sith.
      Depending on how many troops and ships he had under his command though when order 66 was given it's possible the galactic civil war would have started very early

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 2 роки тому +9

    0:16 When you bring your snacks to the classroom:

  • @neofulcrum5013
    @neofulcrum5013 2 роки тому +213

    I wish kota was canon again. I’d love a book on his adventures or comic with his militia. How they were formed, how they fought and how they interacted.

    • @gabrieldeoliveira5277
      @gabrieldeoliveira5277 2 роки тому +11

      For a true fan, cannon is everything that is good and/or was made with Lucas's blessing

    • @laisphinto6372
      @laisphinto6372 2 роки тому +4

      are just nonclone soldiers in general. The clone wars wasnt all clones and it makes a LOT more of sense to have doubt ,why they are fighting ,betrayal ,etc.

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  2 роки тому +14

      Yeah, it would be awesome if he was cannon!

    • @GyroGarrison
      @GyroGarrison 2 роки тому +7

      Doesn't matter if he's canon or not by Disney's standards. He's a Chad and Lucas created him, so he's truly canon.

    • @menschgebliebenerlidlhemdt4473
      @menschgebliebenerlidlhemdt4473 2 роки тому

      Expanded Universe is the Real Canon. Disney is shit.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 2 роки тому +26

    7:05 It would have been interesting if Rahm Kota had met and interacted with Anakin Skywalker during the Clone Wars as both of them were too old to join the Jedi Order yet managed to get in anyway respectively.

  • @Karlos1234ify
    @Karlos1234ify 2 роки тому +7

    Kota: I hate clones.
    Tarkin: Really, same here!
    Pong Krell: I too, dislike clones.

    • @laisphinto6372
      @laisphinto6372 2 роки тому

      every other jedi besides TCW jedi kiddie rework: not exactly hate but they arent through the force you know more like apathy

  • @masteroftheassassins
    @masteroftheassassins 2 роки тому +84

    Nice to know Master Rahm Kota is getting more attention and respect. And I don’t care what anyone says. He will always be one of the founders of the Rebel Alliance to me

    • @geetslys
      @geetslys  2 роки тому +13

      YESSS. He definitely will be for me too.

    • @alejandroelluxray5298
      @alejandroelluxray5298 Рік тому +1

      He is one on my headcannon, but I filter out anything regarding the most absurd stuff of The Force Unleashed

  • @jeremyleonjonas7657
    @jeremyleonjonas7657 2 роки тому +14

    The most likely reason for Kota being trained is that he had developed rudimentary foece abilities as a child soldier (as was the case with e.g. Darth Bane) and the council didn't want hin to run around unsupervised.

  • @nathanchildress9372
    @nathanchildress9372 2 роки тому +26

    I love kota he is a great character, I'm glad he hasn't been brought into disney cannon they would wreck his character.

  • @justjoking5841
    @justjoking5841 2 роки тому +20

    Just finished reading TFU novel. It is definitely much better than the game story wise. Galen is powered down quite a bit but still strong if a little lucky. Tweak his story a little bit and you'll get a canon worthy character (which isn't saying much)

  • @jameskosusnik1102
    @jameskosusnik1102 2 роки тому +119

    Can we please talk about the powerhouse in the force that is Vaylin of the royal family of zakuul. She was so strong in the force she moved objects while SHE WAS INSIDE THE WOMB.

    • @badatminecraft3698
      @badatminecraft3698 2 роки тому +17

      That, and Valkorian/ Vitiate/ Tenebrae. Dude cheats death like it's going out of style

    • @amanzeihedioha
      @amanzeihedioha 2 роки тому +1

      Huh????

    • @brennan1703
      @brennan1703 2 роки тому +12

      @@amanzeihedioha Old republic lore, Vaylins dad was the sith emperor, who made palpatines look like Mr Rogers

    • @AskMia411
      @AskMia411 2 роки тому +1

      Oof, I thought a baby kicking was bad…

  • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
    @GreenBlueWalkthrough 2 роки тому +10

    The main issues with Kota lore can be fixed by having Mace find him during the clone wars as a sagent and taking him back as way to bolseter Jedi forces and as a secert weapon like Star killer.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 2 роки тому +5

    6:31 Rahm and Galen doing the Spider-Men Pointing at Kanan and Ezra doing the same.

  • @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478
    @galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478 2 роки тому +12

    The Jedi Council with an 18 year old man: Well, we can bend the rules a little for this one.
    The Jedi Council with a nine year old boy: He is too old, send him away.

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish 2 роки тому +11

    Kita was fun, and really Starkiller would have been fun as just an inquisitor. It's a shame the weirdness about powerlevel led so many to overlook it.

    • @javierlopez9789
      @javierlopez9789 19 днів тому

      No the inquisitors are just stormtroopers with lightsabers

  • @mamstarstorm
    @mamstarstorm 2 роки тому +6

    Ah Rahm Kota finally is being given a video at last. Soon you got to bring an extensive video on the legend himself.....you know his name.

  • @neonbatteries4389
    @neonbatteries4389 2 роки тому +6

    Rahm Kota was playing 4D chess without even knowing

  • @MandoMTL
    @MandoMTL 2 роки тому +4

    I never heard of this badass before. Thank you.

  • @Im-Not-a-Dog
    @Im-Not-a-Dog 2 роки тому +7

    The Council when Qui-Gon wants to train a 9 year old, ex-slave, droid mechanic and pod racer to be a Jedi: "Hes too old and has seen too much. It would be dangerous."
    The Council when Windu wants to train an 18 year old, ex-child soldier and war veteran to be a Jedi: "Sounds good!"

  • @colorgreen8728
    @colorgreen8728 2 роки тому +11

    I’ve always loved kota, he’s always been so intriguing to me, and as I love the clones he was right to not trust them not through their own will do he may have been biased against them which just ain’t ok, but he was right lol

  • @Garmagic2yFhenrakh9
    @Garmagic2yFhenrakh9 2 роки тому +8

    Windu when having to admit a...
    9-year-old Anakin: "Nah, he's too old"
    18-year-old Kota: "Sure, welcome to the order"

  • @Lego-Joe-1
    @Lego-Joe-1 2 роки тому +6

    Mace Windu- 8-year-old Anakin is too old to be trained!
    Also, Mace Windu- 18-year-old Rohm Kota needs to be trained at once.

  • @TheWarmachine375
    @TheWarmachine375 2 роки тому +4

    1:07 Sounds like Cadia and Krieg rolled into one world in a nutshell.

  • @marshalllatta2073
    @marshalllatta2073 2 роки тому +13

    I will love to see this smart jedi in the clone wars even his own army was so cool to fight against the empire

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 2 роки тому +12

    If Rahm Kota is to be canonized, the Siege of Onderon during the Outer Rim Sieges would be the right moment where he and his militia should be.

  • @wristofkings
    @wristofkings 2 роки тому +5

    Even though he was the invention of a game that sits in a weird corner of canon and is a bit inconsistent with the Jedi lore, Rahm Kota was easily one of the best characters in Legends and shows a road not taken. If only more characters were as perceptive and distrusting as he was, the Jedi Order and maybe even the Republic might have survived. While an okay character in the context of Rebels, Kanan Jarrus was nothing but Disney's pale imitation of Kota.

  • @tristankawatsuma8962
    @tristankawatsuma8962 2 роки тому +47

    Okay, the dude gets a major point by the fact that in Legends his choices not only allowed him to survive, but basically created an early Rebel Alliance cell which got experience in war during the Clone Wars. I wouldn’t be surprised if his cell in legends was one of the most successful. Heck, they may have even had minimal casualties thanks to their experience and unique leadership in the form of a Jedi General. However I wonder what his personal opinions of the clones are. His basis for not leading clones was because he didn’t trust them. Now this doesn’t say anything about him looking down on them like Imperials as the circumstances of the clones clearly would raise eyebrows. A Jedi made the order for the clones in secret and just happened to be killed the same year which was also the year when the first Sith remerged and killed a Jedi? And the first generation of clones just happen to be ready only a few years after the CIS is created and just when it’s revealed they have a droid army. Suspicion is completely justified. However the fact that he doesn’t have a single clone in his unit does suggest his personal opinions of clones aren’t good. Sure, he doesn’t trust him but the fact he doesn’t have at least one trooper in his unit? And the fact that he doesn’t trust the clones, but does nothing on the matter? After all it was Fives who actually discovered the chips and their true purpose and it was thanks to him that the Jedi looked further into the army’s origins, though they still made some wrong moves. Overall, I be wrong to not praise the Jedi for surviving Order 66 because of his wits and for how he basically created a Rebel Cell years before the Empire was created. However as a clone lover, I question if his feelings about the clones were really as professional as Legends claims or if he didn’t see them as people worthy of respect. This would end up putting one of the most heroic Jedi and Rebel leaders in a bit of a mindset like Imperials such as Tarkin and Rampart, though thankfully this would be the only ideological similarity between Kota and the Imperials.

    • @Chaotic_Jackal
      @Chaotic_Jackal 2 роки тому +7

      If I recall correctly Proxy mentions during his briefing on Kota in the Force Unleashed that he thought the clones inferior to regular men and woman in both tactical reasoning (it’s an army of one guy so no diversity of thought or ability to think of unique solutions to problems) and motivation (people with a stake in the war would naturally fight harder and more viciously then any vat grown Clone to protect their homes and loved ones.) Also it’s worth keeping in mind that this was back in Legends before the The Clone Wars show humanized the Clone troopers. Prior to that they where largely just stoic figures fought and died under the Jedi on mass with very little time or thought given to them or their personalities.

    • @rexlumontad5644
      @rexlumontad5644 2 роки тому +2

      @@Chaotic_Jackal What a wasted opportunity to bring Kota into The Clone Wars show where he gets to know the Clones' personalities and beliefs despite sharing the same face of Jango Fett.

    • @tristankawatsuma8962
      @tristankawatsuma8962 2 роки тому +3

      @@Chaotic_Jackal True. Only special forces clones in Legends had development before Canon came around. And when the unit was likely first formed, it was still in the early months of the war as everyone was getting used to the idea of the Republic having Jedi Generals again as well as a new clone army. Honestly I say it was around the Battle of Christophsis that the majority of the clones were inspired by the Jedi to stand out in their own ways such as painting their armor and taking names, though there were a few exceptions before it became an unofficial general rule in the army such as Cut, Slick, Rex, Cody, and the Domino Squad. Honestly if the Jedi Order did one thing right about the clones, it was making sure one of their own was watching over them in training. Guys like the Domino Squad would otherwise be terminated and the building of relations between clones and Jedi probably wouldn't go as well. Though I still wonder why they chose Shaak Ti. Surely there were several other options as good as her and why devote a Jedi Master to the homefront in a massive galaxy-wide war? Not saying it was a bad decision, I'm just wondering how they reached it. I know Geetsly already did a video on individual Jedi moralities including Shaak Ti, but it would be nice to see him do a video explaining why she was the one sent to Kamino during the war. Anyways, while I feel Kota might have some darker reasons not to like clones, the current reasons Legends presented certainly do make sense, especially under the circumstances. Still, I bet his opinion on the clones just grew lower when the price of their creation drained money from the civilian sector. Actually if anything, I wonder if Kota's perspective on the clones is the type most citizens had of them: Simply living machines with no real stake in the war.

    • @spiritpyros
      @spiritpyros 2 роки тому +1

      So quick note you have to remember rahm kota was written prior to the plot point of the inhibitor chips existence. At that point in time the clones reason for betraying the Jedi upon the issuing of order 66 was purely due to loyalty to the republic over any loyalty to the Jedi there was no microchip involved in it . So rahm kota's distrust of the clones was proven right mainly because of their loyalties. If the inhibitor chip plot point was included in the canon of the force unleashed then it would have been pretty interesting to have rahm meet with a clone that had no inhibitor chip though

  • @starkilr101
    @starkilr101 2 роки тому +4

    I miss Kota. He was a hardass and a likable one

  • @xdj2a2
    @xdj2a2 2 роки тому +58

    What if General Kota was at the Battle of Umbra with his recruited militia instead of Anakin ( and later his replacement who shall not be named ) and the 501st?

    • @reaperking7748
      @reaperking7748 2 роки тому +16

      That's a good question. Tbh I think Kota would be distrustful of the 501'st Leigon, but at the same time he wouldn't purposely try to put Rex and his men in deadly situations. In fact I feel that Kota would do everything he could within reason to win the battle as quick as possible just to get himself out of that situation. But then again I'm probably just grasping at straws

    • @xdj2a2
      @xdj2a2 2 роки тому +21

      @@reaperking7748 your not that far off actually it would make sense for Kota's character he would be down in the fight with the clones like Anakin, while not trusting them at all, but still not to the point of sending the clones to die like Krell, Kota is that middle ground between chill leader and aggressive leader.

    • @rexlumontad5644
      @rexlumontad5644 2 роки тому +13

      @@xdj2a2 And Kota would side with the Clones against Krell who turned out to be a traitor, working out a plan to capture him and execute it well.

    • @reaperking7748
      @reaperking7748 2 роки тому +10

      @@xdj2a2 Plus if Kota's men were to go with him then maybe the battle of Umbara would have ended quicker than it did with just the 501st and the 212th doing all the fighting on the ground

    • @xdj2a2
      @xdj2a2 2 роки тому +2

      @@rexlumontad5644 Kota would probably enjoy that.🤣

  • @tux75
    @tux75 2 роки тому +35

    I feel like Disney got their ideas for Kanan Jarrus from Rahm Kota

    • @lafayettemclaren5195
      @lafayettemclaren5195 2 роки тому +20

      Kanan and Ezra feel like really really budget Rahm and Galen

    • @indianajones4321
      @indianajones4321 2 роки тому +8

      Yeah a lot of their story arcs are similar

    • @TheWarmachine375
      @TheWarmachine375 2 роки тому +3

      @@lafayettemclaren5195 6:30 Same energy

    • @Starwars-Fanboy
      @Starwars-Fanboy 2 роки тому +3

      Kanan reminds me of Ferus Olin a tad. I dont see him being like Kota aside from being blind.

    • @Strixae
      @Strixae 2 роки тому +5

      @@lafayettemclaren5195 I think they hold up as their own characters. Kanan is one of the best examples of what the Jedi should be and an underrated character

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 2 роки тому +6

    The Jedi Order: Yo dudes Kamino and the Clone Army are pretty chill
    Kota: Bruh what!

  • @ianmckee4726
    @ianmckee4726 2 роки тому +2

    Id imagine the order decided to train Kota because the only other good option would be too kill him. Just leaving him on the planet to potentially to dark isnt much of an option, espically if Mace realized he was open to Jedi training.

  • @davidkish1854
    @davidkish1854 2 роки тому +4

    In my mind Koda is 100% cannon and will always have a place in starwars only a shame disney didn't take advantage of such an incredibly written character and gave him even more depth

  • @drakejohnson5386
    @drakejohnson5386 2 роки тому +6

    I think that the Jedi order pre-clone wars should have done was to have a set of assignments that the order could have sent Jedi on to act like pressure valve. Windu enjoyed combat, but channeled that passion into creating a new lightsaber form. If there could have been a way for experienced Jedi, like Windu, to take Jedi who were close to the dark side, to more secret or aggressive missions. They may have not lost so many Jedi to the dark side. The key would be to have them teamed up with someone who understands their feelings, like Windu and I must imagine Plo koon as well. That way they can learn to see the light side as the answer to all their frustrations. Obi-wan never dealt with/struggled with the feeling like you need to do something. Where you are going to be obsessed about something until you can make some progress. I think that is 1 reason that Anikin fell.
    That and the force itself knew that the clone wars Jedi were as bad as the sith when it came to following the will of the force, so they needed to be eliminated

  • @Alec11_43
    @Alec11_43 2 роки тому +10

    I guess It would be interesting to see a video on Rahm Kota’s apprentice Falon Grey, as well as his clones X1 and X2 which to this day I’m still trying to wrap my head around since it isn’t really explained/explored how those two were exactly made by the kaminoans despite healthy/stable force-sensitive clones being a rarity; doesn’t help that all 3 of them only had one appearance in a PSP/DS game.

    • @Chaotic_Jackal
      @Chaotic_Jackal 2 роки тому +2

      Force Sensitive clones where actually rather common in Legends with the Empire even cloning an entire platoon of dark Jedi Stormtroopers at one point,

    • @Alec11_43
      @Alec11_43 2 роки тому +4

      @@Chaotic_Jackal I know, it’s just that the other examples made a bit more of an effort to show how hard it was to make them successfully. That’s expecting a lot out of a single PSP/DS game, but still.

  • @bipolingdaco1607
    @bipolingdaco1607 2 роки тому +3

    7:35 omg now that I see how built different kota is I can no longer fathom how starkiller won that duel lmao

  • @SquirrelASMR
    @SquirrelASMR 2 роки тому +5

    Mace to Anakin: no the little boy will not be trained, he's too young.... take a seat young skywalker
    Mace to this 18 year old guy: I found this old ass man, we gonna train him... take a stand, old guy

  • @albertlamar5938
    @albertlamar5938 2 роки тому +6

    Awesome character, and well presented. I felt like I was listening to your BRAVED channel about total battlefield beasts.
    On a related matter, if Yoda trained Kota, since he was accepted out of age-sequence, why didn't Yoda do the same for Anakin, half the age of Kota upon acceptance?

  • @gabrieldeoliveira5277
    @gabrieldeoliveira5277 2 роки тому +3

    One of the best star wars games if not arguably the best one, to play as a sith, making a sacrifice and renouncing the sith in the end. Best than the recent games for sure, the only ones I can think that can compete are the kotors.

  • @minicle426
    @minicle426 2 роки тому +6

    Master Aqinos. The open-minded Jedi who founded the Iron Knights.

  • @captainkiwi77
    @captainkiwi77 2 роки тому +3

    “Threw a wrench in canon” that’s putting it lightly. And I mean that’s the exact reason people love it, it’s such a ridiculous, hyper star wars, big boom, super smart rebel general Jedi, major story... just a wild affair, though in my opinion, that’s also why it should remain not canon, and just a fun side story, a What if, if you will

    • @laisphinto6372
      @laisphinto6372 2 роки тому

      thats force unleashed in general ,i dont consider it cannon without making some massive reworks but its fine at least it takes the rule of cool approach of lore breaking.

  • @demi-femme4821
    @demi-femme4821 2 роки тому +5

    Mace Windu about Rahm Kota, 18-year old man who had been a soldier since he was 10: "We're happy to welcome you into the Jedi Order : )."
    Mace Windu about Anakin, who was 9 and was worried about his enslaved mother: "hE'S tOo oLd. wE CAnNOt AcCEpT hIm."

  • @jacobtietjen2099
    @jacobtietjen2099 2 роки тому +5

    God Rahm Kota is so cool. I wish we could get him back in canon.

  • @bamboozle23k
    @bamboozle23k 2 роки тому +3

    Would have Def been qui gon if it wasn't for his death. The man literally took it as an offence when a princess that he was rescuing called him a cunning warrior, despite her also calling him a coward, which he ofc did not mind. He did not see the jedi order as most of his fellow jedi did, he saw it the way it was supposed to be seen.

  • @captainseabass874
    @captainseabass874 2 роки тому +1

    Another great underrated Jedi, for all his legends importance, Master K’Kruhk needs some love.

  • @Stay-xb9id
    @Stay-xb9id 2 роки тому +16

    Clones Less creative, yes true. Recruits have actually live life and learned things through being raised. Information and understanding through the generation's. People in general, the economy,politics the clones know nothing of.

  • @astra3310
    @astra3310 2 роки тому +3

    Maybe they took him in as a way to see if early intervention in troubled force sensitives could potentially help curb a path to the Dark Side back towards the Light Side of the Force? Tempering the internal horror before it led the boy to discover what he could do in the worst backdrop possible.
    Yes young force sensitives are awakened to their potential by older, trained force sensitives (Jedi and possibly Sith) in the modern galactic age, but SURELY it can’t be impossible for a Force Sensitive to tap into their innate potential without it being unlocked by another Force Sensitive? If it was only possible to be open to the Force by being awakened by an older person who in turn had to be awakened as a youngling, then the Force could NEVER have been discovered by any species.

  • @theelectricgamer9889
    @theelectricgamer9889 2 роки тому +1

    Kota “Why does no one else see that the clones are clearly suspicious!?”

  • @davidtucker9498
    @davidtucker9498 2 роки тому +3

    At this point, I'm pretty sure 95% of ALL Jedi were "too old" to begin their training, and the Jedi just said that to keep trainees in line by making them feel like they were getting a rare exception to the rule...

  • @rexrivers2220
    @rexrivers2220 2 роки тому +3

    I wish this dude became canon and was part of SWR

  • @kingbooomer9231
    @kingbooomer9231 2 роки тому +25

    I feel Kota could most definitely still be canonized by altering his backstory a bit and even aiding Saw Gurerra’s Partisans in the background before “mysteriously” going MIA around 3BBY. Then it could lead to Starkiller (albiet weaker in canon) to be in the canon as well with a more background role

    • @VerdantJedi
      @VerdantJedi 2 роки тому +4

      That's what I was thinking! In my free time, I'm trying to see if I can come with a new timeline that perfectly combines certain elements of the current cannon and the EU, retain the iconic characters like Kyle Katarn, Mara Jade, Ahsoka Tano and of course Rahm kota and Starkiller, while fixing all the discrepancies of the EU so as to not use the sequel trilogy timeline at all... I'm trying to master some graphic and animation skills so that I may one day be able to tell that story in that format...

    • @VerdantJedi
      @VerdantJedi 2 роки тому +8

      Wait... I just figured out how to make Kota work.
      Mace recruiting him at 18 certainly doesn't fit into the canon tapestry, considering Anakin almost got rejected at age 9. The canon of George's 6 films must be adhered to, always...
      So give Kota a traditional Jedi background where he was inducted as a small child like any other jedi, then throw him into 2 of the clone wars story arcs, particularly where the clone's inhibitor chip malfunctioned and the Onderon conflict where we first saw Saw Guerera. This will develop his character towards the Kota that we all know in the force unleashed.
      1. For the inhibitor chip incident, Kota will witness the death of his padawan, Falon Grey at the hands of a defective clone. This will stir him to question his existing suspicions of the clone army and decides not to work alongside clones.
      2. Kota resolving the conflict at Onderon, would not only gained him an alliance with Saw, but an opportunity to recruit his own personal militia that would become the precursor of the rebel army, leading towards the force unleashed storyline.

    • @kaimagnus5760
      @kaimagnus5760 2 роки тому +5

      A way to properly canonize Starkiller is simply making him a Sith Assassin in the same way Sidius train Maul. With Vader planning to make him his Apprentice after overthrowing Sidius.
      Star Killer then proceeds to follow the same path until he joins up with Kota's forces in the Rebel Allience.

    • @bradwhite5884
      @bradwhite5884 2 роки тому

      Maybe he would work with Saw for a few years before both would fall out from their ways, both be extreme but maybe Kota's influence my corrupted Saw's ideas, becoming more extreme then he is, which leads them spliting off, Kota could be one of the Fulcrums before Ahsoka takes over fully, I wonder what's Kota's opinions on the Clones and such, how he reacts to some of the Clone traitors like Slick and all, how he react to the Umbaran incident with a certain four armed Jedi, opinion on one of Anakin's clones killing a Jedi mid battle that caused Fives to go rogue and finding about the chips and all, also react to all the events the the episodes and meeting the Bad Batch, also some clones not following order 66 and the whole chip thing, so yeah

    • @bradwhite5884
      @bradwhite5884 2 роки тому +1

      @@kaimagnus5760 Yeah, I think make Starkiller a Sith Assassin or keep him as Vader's secret apprentice, also he should be above the ranks of the Inquisitors, like if the Inquisitors fail, they'll send Starkiller out to finish the job, also the Shadow guards be Canon as well as Shadow Troopers while both be assisted by Death Troopers from Rogue One, Shadow Troopers are their own class compare to the regular Storm Troopers, also Royal Commandos and Shadow Royal Commandos, as well as include some familiar faces in the Royal Guard ranks as well and other variants of the Royal guards and Shadow Troopers, so yeah

  • @themutualfriend5286
    @themutualfriend5286 2 роки тому +3

    Hands down one of my favourite jedi masters ever canon or otherwise.

  • @thetezz0001
    @thetezz0001 2 роки тому +3

    Love your content bro it's very interesting and high quality nice one

  • @Honor_and_Steel
    @Honor_and_Steel 2 роки тому +1

    My theory on why they trained him is that he was quite strong in the Force without knowing it and was in danger of falling to the dark side. They kept him close at hand in order to nip a potential problem in the bud. Their justification for breaking the age and emotional turmoil rules could be that it was a way to bring him inner peace and understanding of himself. Rather than have him as a weak enemy, they wanted to make him an ally.

  • @joshuawells835
    @joshuawells835 2 роки тому +1

    There's X2, a Force sensitive clone of Jedi Knight Falon Grey who took part in Order 66 and then became a Jedi. He would have been the protagonist of Battlefront III until it was cancelled and the plot reused for Battlefront Elite Squadron. Then there's Voolvif Monn, whose a voiceless character in Star Wars: Clone Wars.

  • @Cloofinder
    @Cloofinder 2 роки тому +3

    This would of been an awesome Arc in the Clone Wars series.

  • @morgoth6316
    @morgoth6316 2 роки тому +3

    Still can’t forgive him for stopping starkiller from killing the emperor only to get starkiller killed and then say that he’s one with the force..... really makes you wonder how Kota could be so dumb

  • @Warrior_Jedi
    @Warrior_Jedi 2 роки тому +5

    Why didn't we see anything detailing his Militia actions during the Clone Wars?
    Also a few years ago, some idiot commented about wanting to see Kota's Militia betray him for money.

    • @laisphinto6372
      @laisphinto6372 2 роки тому

      thats so dumb especially when they are loyal to him during order 66 . if they are even slightly interested in money they would be rich and they would be all slaughtered anyway .

    • @Warrior_Jedi
      @Warrior_Jedi 2 роки тому +4

      @@laisphinto6372 I know, the most annoying thing is that I can't remember what video it was and it was from 2 or 3 years ago. I've been trying to find it to respond.

  • @GyroGarrison
    @GyroGarrison 2 роки тому +4

    This dude is the ultimate Chad in the series.

  • @mr.mcnerdo
    @mr.mcnerdo 2 роки тому +1

    Kota was very lucky. I don’t know if that qualifies as smart, but that was a fantastic video, anyhow.

  • @EddieCorsis9398
    @EddieCorsis9398 2 роки тому +1

    Rahm Kota is my absolute favorite Jedi and I think he is the best Jedi of all time. His character development is great! From a proud general of the Republic, to an Rebel Commander, a broken man and at the end, a hero of the Rebelion.
    So I think that Rahm Kota is a underrated character and I think that he becames a Jedi. The reasons are simple, Rahm Kota was as child forced into a civil war. He last his entire family, was forced to fight as a child soldier... And in all this time he didn't fall to the dark side. We all actually know, that the most characters would and that's the point where Kota makes sense to became a Jedi at the age of eighteen. As a child soldier he must learnd that attachments in a war are really dangerous and so his only attachments based on respect for the soldiers who fight side by side with him. So as Mace Windu finds him I think he was actually a little bit sceptical of Kota. But this man has no attachments, he is really disciplined and he has combat experience. He goes through a bloody and moderous war without falling to the dark side.
    I know this is really speculative, but in my head Canon it makes in this way more sense

  • @PeteTemplar101
    @PeteTemplar101 2 роки тому +1

    I imagine his training must have been because his powers were already manifesting, the dangers of leaving him alone were likely greater then the risk of training him

  • @shanenolan8252
    @shanenolan8252 2 роки тому +3

    There were two force unleashed books as well

  • @mdbb4054
    @mdbb4054 2 роки тому +3

    Rahm Kota is my favorite Jedi by far. Thanks to Force Unleashed and his awesome lore.

  • @zexalbrony4799
    @zexalbrony4799 2 роки тому +6

    You could maybe tell the story of another Jedi who waged a war against the Empire, Dass Jennier.

    • @michaelandreipalon359
      @michaelandreipalon359 2 роки тому +3

      Ah, Dass Jennir. Wonder what happened to him after Dark Times' end?

    • @zexalbrony4799
      @zexalbrony4799 2 роки тому +4

      @@michaelandreipalon359 Well, I head cannoned that in the new Canon, the clone Legion that he commanded was Doom's unit that was reassigned to him after the deaths of Tip Lar and Tip Lee, and they all bonded and went to New Plympto where Dass survived Order 66 because Doom recalled what happened with Tup and used it to resist the order for a few seconds and warn Dass like Rex did. And then he saved Doom and got his chip out later so the pair could help the Nosaurians fight against the Empire, but then they all lose to the 501st when Vill shows up, but after saving what few Nnosaurains survived from slavery, and getting the chips out a few of Doom's Clones, Dass, Doom, Bomo, a few of Doon's Clones, Dass's personal Astromech, and the Medical Droids they used to get the chips out, all start roaming the galaxy fighting the Empire where ever they can.
      But that's just what I head cannon. LOL.

  • @nikot.9920
    @nikot.9920 2 роки тому +1

    Easily one of the most underrated Jedi ever, also in my Top 3. Love Rahm Kota. Wish he was cannon so he can get the highlights that he deserved

  • @Sawtooth44
    @Sawtooth44 2 роки тому +1

    Kota's greatest force power was actually Force Rule, a force power that despite its name allowed one to ignore rules making others see that nothing is wrong

  • @ramseydehalla8678
    @ramseydehalla8678 2 роки тому +1

    Idea for future video? How did the clones know not to be hostile towards anakin and later Did they know who dearth Vader was after order 66?

  • @justingary5322
    @justingary5322 2 роки тому +2

    Rham Kota was a SAVAGE JEDI MASTER having his own private militia apart from The Jedi Order and Temple so he must've been ready when Order 66 took place in his timeline that's why Darth Vader sent Galen Marek after him.

  • @ApatheticBeaver
    @ApatheticBeaver 2 роки тому +3

    Never knew you had a star wars channel, I always knew you as the front. Fantastic to see you! I always enjoy your video and community posts, you're always funny and keep me having a good day. Thank you so much man. I know this will probably get buried, but have a good day man :)

  • @rodgill9376
    @rodgill9376 2 роки тому +3

    Mace Windu: "Anakin is too old to be a Jedi He will not be trained!"
    Also Mace Windu: "Yo Kota, wanna be a Jedi?"
    Ah... once again, total hypocrites. No wonder they're seen as a joke.

  • @ZomboidMania
    @ZomboidMania 2 роки тому +1

    you forgot to mention that Kotor kinda knew Galen was full of shit when Galen said he wasn't apart of the Empire anymore, but anyways great video

  • @villgoir
    @villgoir 2 роки тому +2

    These are the best recruit for the Jedi order

  • @ericokonkwo7771
    @ericokonkwo7771 2 роки тому +2

    Imagine if Mace Windu survived the fall in episode 3 and went to find Yoda after his Evenly Draw Fight/Battle with Darth Sidious. They and Obi-Wan could plan a counterattack on Vader and Sidious possibly!

  • @bigjew9905
    @bigjew9905 2 роки тому +4

    my fellow semite rahm kota who we talkin ab right?

  • @NatalieE500
    @NatalieE500 Рік тому

    He also trained a padawan named Falon Grey. During a mission, Falon was injured and the pair landed on Kamino to get help. The Kaminoans healed Falon Grey, but they also took a sample of his DNA and created two clones of him- X1 and X2. Kota later found X2 on Dantooine living the life of farmer. He had thought that he sensed his former padawan’s presence. Unbeknownst to Kota, Grey had died years earlier. He was killed by X1!
    When he found out that X2 was merely a clone he was disappointed. He then lambasted X2 for “tending the land” while the galaxy suffered. X2 agreed to join him in the Rebel Alliance.

  • @nathanweast4397
    @nathanweast4397 Рік тому +1

    Mace Windu to Anakin: He's too old.
    Also Mace Windu: Here's an 18-year old veteran I plucked from the front lines of his civil war I kinda stopped. Let's make him a Jedi.

  • @jordanhendrix2619
    @jordanhendrix2619 2 роки тому +1

    He was also going to be in the original Battlefront 3, and ended up in Battlefront: Elite Squadron, in the same storyline.

  • @splatoonistproductions5345
    @splatoonistproductions5345 2 роки тому

    6:35 that is a sight I want to see canonised someday

  • @popcornfilms1
    @popcornfilms1 2 роки тому

    Loving the Forced Unleashed lore content getting more spotlight

  • @dabigork
    @dabigork 2 роки тому +4

    More then likely no one was going to say no to Mace

    • @TheWarmachine375
      @TheWarmachine375 2 роки тому +3

      If you and your Orks are in Star Wars universe, will you krump everyone in your way?

    • @dabigork
      @dabigork 2 роки тому +2

      @@TheWarmachine375 yeah wen get to it as we as a eye Palpi's Death Rok an we be bringing bak Maceyboy as Gork an Mork think he da best hummie spacey weird boy an dat Jar Jar git is on top of stomping is on da top thingie wit da words and gubbins on a bit wat da thing yeah list

  • @PotatoBullets115
    @PotatoBullets115 Рік тому

    I would love to see a reimagining of the whole Force Unleashed story, weaving it into a story that fits with the canon.

  • @MexicanBagpiper96
    @MexicanBagpiper96 Рік тому +1

    Realistically Rahm Kota had something very valuable most Jedi did not at the outbreak of the Clone Wars, actual military experience. I think that's why he made a better officer and tactician than most other Jedi. Coming into the Order he already had eight years of fighting experience, and probably one or two years of experience as a combat leader. Many people forget that while there were a few exceptions, the vast majority of the Jedi Order had no experience or training as military officers. They were a peacekeeping force. That's not the sa.e thing as a military.

  • @GKMasterYT
    @GKMasterYT 2 роки тому

    Great video!!

  • @bigchrisp6173
    @bigchrisp6173 2 роки тому

    Excellent breakdown

  • @KageAkarui
    @KageAkarui 2 роки тому

    You should do a video about how the rebel alliance first got organized in Legends originally before Force Unleashed creaked what I guess at the time could be considered a canon break. And also I think the prequels threw some wrenches in as well. I'm interested in hearing about the original depiction of the formation of the rebellion and then the changes that were made after the prequels to tie everything together.

  • @greyostrich4377
    @greyostrich4377 Рік тому

    They really need to make a comic of him or book as well as make him cannon. Hell he should make an appearance in a future Star Wars series

  • @Schaeffdog2014
    @Schaeffdog2014 2 роки тому

    Growing up before Disney take over until this painting🤯 6:30