Right! Because as a Ford fanboy those Tesla fanboys are Hell! I don't know who's worse, Tesla fanboys, Apple Fanboys or Samsungs? Seriously they are some of the most vicious.
@@twany442 It's a result of media putting false stories trying to destroy Tesla especially in the early days. Ultimately I think that galvanized the fan base. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet tried for years to bring Tesla down with short selling plays in the stock market, Bill having indirect ownership of MS NBC.
@@steveseeger No thhe media isn't in trying to destroy Tesla. The fan boys are doing it on their own. They are vicious with high elements of smugness and they are intolerable. I can't even enjoy something Ford has done even if it doesn't consist of an EV and yet the Tesla's Fanboys are still on spewing hate. So no you're absolutely wrong.
One important thing Doug failed to mention is that the Mustang Mach-E currently qualifies for the $7,500 federal tax credit where the Tesla vehicles don’t. Technically the Mach-E GT costs much less than the model Y.
This is a pretty big omission. He actually says the Mach-E is slightly cheaper than the Y when driving the car but I think he accidentally misspoke (correctly) around the 15:00 mark. With the tax credit, this car should get an extra pt in that Doug Score
Good point. Although if the tax credit bill passes that all changes anyway (and prices are changing all the time too), so in a few months who knows.... And you can't even get a Model Y Long Range until well into next year anyway so it's almost impossible to really forecast.
Ya well How much does it cost to replace a Battery? And Why does our government think they can Build electric Cars and demand them. When they can't even Get 1 chip.. and that cripples the entire auto industry for almost 2 years now
Doug: "I won't talk about the normal quirks because I already reviewed a Mach-e, only the GT specific ones" Also Doug: spends five minutes talking about those goddamned door handles again.
@@agnez1739 ayyyy @youtube can you please do something about all these god damned spam porn comments? Or at least let it link to some real porn, all it is is computer viruses lol
Can you blame them though? You have to understand what type of people will be buyng theese cars and what people would buy an actual mustang. Just imagine a random girl with a kid coming up to you while you are getting out of a 2015 mustang sayng "hey, i have a mustang too!" And showing you this thing. Its infuriating because it doesnt actually represent what a mustang has always been known as, and while the car itself might not be bad, it's still not what the badge claims. Any other name could have made this a really well recieved SUV from the car community and they went ahead and did this as a marketing trick, wich car people logically took as an insult to the legacy of the mustang.
@@Ferrari255GTO"it doesnt actually represent what a mustang has always been known as" - who decides again what a Mustang is and what not? "it's still not what the badge claims" - who decides again what a Mustang is and what not? right. Ford does and not haters like you😊 "its not a real mustang 😡😢🥺" LIKE JUST STFU. Its a Mustang. PERIODT. FACTS dont CARE aboy ya FEELINGS :)
Please someone get Doug in a Rivian. I really want to hear his honest opinions on it and I'm sad that such a huge number of other UA-camrs who don't normally do cars got the chance before him.
problem with the rivian is that its going to be a fucking hundred grand before you get it HALF decently equipped... regardless of EV rebates its impractically expensive... its flat out cheaper to eat the cost of 22mpg in my 2020 ram with a hemi than pay the extra cost for the EV but cheaper fuel (electric per mile vs gas per mile) and thats not even taking into account the STUPIDDDDD parts of owning an EV like the fact the charge will be drastically shorter in winter and you have to plan long distance vacations around charging spots
@@HarryMollyNut yeah right ...people with half his channel and no staff make 800k-2 million a month just from adsense and at least double that from sponsorships ....youtube is a huge cash cow don't be fooled ....and his channel can get much bigger than it already is
Didn't he say he prefers minimal badging for performance versions ? I swear to god he used to praise old performance cars for their subtle badging..but now its a con ? 😜
@@Chrisb8s LOL! Yeah! Or a tail pipe speaker programmed to sound any way you want at any speed-cuz i really don't like the idea of silent vehicles at *ANY* speed... Mine would sound like a Tie Fighter....AAAARRRHHHHHWWWHH!
For anyone who doesn't understand why handling matters more that tenths of a second in acceleration I challenge you to take a test ride in a 160-ish hp Miata.
Eh... People who don't understand why handling matters, quite frankly, aren't car enthusiasts and they don't care about cars. They want a status symbol, another way to boast about the silly numbers game the car world has become. "My car does 0-60 in XX seconds, my car does the quarter mile in XX seconds, and my car fits my massive cock too!" And of course, they never EVER enjoy the car's handling capabilities or characteristics, they drive it from point A to B and that's it. If they drive a miata, they're gonna complain that it's too small, too slow, and/or not worth the price. They don't care, they just want to use them as transportation with the added bonus of fashion or flaunting wealth.
@@njoythedrive For sure, that’s honestly what I dislike about muscle cars here in the US. Realistically, they’re mostly driven by people who know nothing about cars in general. They just know they like Mustangs or Chargers because it has a big v8 and that alone equals performance. A Challenger Hellcat or Raptor in the hands of a normal person isn’t a performance car any more than a Camry or base model RAM is, yet that’s mostly who’s buying them, in my area at least.
@@njoythedrive you have to take into consideration that not everyone wants good handling because some people live in areas where they don’t have good driving roads. Some people just want straight line acceleration because they’ll use that more than good handling.
@@user-xw4vg1vy5e Well, the RS is plastered with badges and the GT only has what.. 4 of them? I guess he's saying he expected more indication that he's driving the performance model. Maybe a rear wing, side scoops, hood scoops, etc. Same with the Teslas. It's hard for the untrained eye to tell when a performance version is rolling by.
My friend recently let me drive his new Mach-E. Never mind all the other quirks and features, my absolute favourite is the fact that you can program it to emit a V8 rumble under acceleration. It's hilariously useless, but I wouldn't turn it off.
When i picked up a a set of 1yo winter tires the owner just recently bought a standard Mach 1. I got the opportunity to have a seat. Inside it's the typical American interior with the huge display in the middle and a rather surprisingly tiny instrument screen in front of the driver. The door "handle" even though odd looking is actually very practical. I also thought it would be much bigger which really surprised me. 😮
They should have just called it the Mach E, and Mach E GT. That way when the inevitable electric ACTUAL Mustang happens, it can be the Mustang Mach E Way to go Ford. Cant wait to see you butcher the E Mustang name given you already used the best possible one for it.
I said the same thing about the Mitsubishi Eclipse. Cars are dying man, but some cool cars are coming about at the same time. But yeah the ever changing car market is kinda worrying at times. Kinda like how the new Porsche is a Taycon Turbo S. But it's electric. No turbo in sight.
He forgot to mention body panel fitment, while I'm no fan of Ford, I do have to say I'm sure the panel gaps are even while those tesla gaps are... we'll call them "getting better."
He also forgot to mention the most important aspect of electric cars. Charging. Tesla is so far ahead of everyone in charging station it’s a joke. Doug travels far distances and doesn’t even mention this, must not have experienced the tragedy of charging a Mach E on a road trip.
@@robob221 Depends on the country. Here in Germany there are less Tesla Charging Station than the ones that work for all other electric cars. So the infrastucture regarding charging stations is coming along very well here in Germany & Tesla doesn't have the best charging network anymore. The Argument regarding Charging Stations seems to be mostly coming from the US and especially the UK where finding a Tesla Charging Station seems to be very easy while not so much for other electric cars. But it definitely is not the case here in Germany. Which is probably also why i keep seeing more and more Audi, Mercedes, VW, Opel, BMW electric cars week by week, but of course also a lot of Teslas, but they definitely aren't the "most common electric car" you see here in Germany
@@robob221 I experienced the Mach E charging "tragedy" at least 5 times this summer on extended road trips and I am alive to talk about it. Spoiler alert - it was flawless other than having to find a slightly altered route through West Virginia. Charging isn't that different from a Tesla. -Especially for as infrequent most people need to charge away from home. If you live in an apartment, different story. Buy a Tesla (still depends on where you live though - my area has more non-Tesla super charging locations that Super Chargers). If you are able to install a Lvl 2 charger at home, charging should be similar and I advise people to consider other pro/cons first. Might be odd that Doug didnt mention it but also refreshing because it's not as big of a factor as Tesla owners want everyone to believe. PS - I don't hate Tesla (wanted one until the competition started catching up) but the cult is boring.
@@Vinrx7 I'm kind of considering one. I told my girlfriend I would be referring to it as a Mach E. And that the word Mustanf wouldn't be used at all to describe the car. She agreed. Although, I could probably live with the top level non GT. I just can't see spending $20k for a .5 in 0-60. I'd rather have the extra range.
@@steveawesome9538 I'm also considering this (Mach E). I'm debating on if I want to spend the extra money on the GT. I would want to get it before the end of the year so I dont miss out on the federal rebate. The rebate amount might go down or be completely gone by 2022 so I would need to find a dealership with these in stock. Turns out there is one by my house that has the GT. Not sure if they allow test drives but I'll have to make a decision quick.
@@Vinrx7 go find a dealership that has one. Ask them to hold it, find your way to the dealership. If you like it, buy it and drive it home. By the time you get home you'll be an expert on how to charge it. Road trip! Might be a lot of fun knowing you'll have to stop and take a break every few hours to charge the car and maybe look around at stuff.
Bruh Ford Should Not Call This a Mustang They Should’ve Called This The Ford Edge Ev Why Call This a Mustang Edit: the amount of Tesla fanboys and the Ford fanboys are fighting in the comments lol
It's simple. They used it to get people's attention. They know it's absurd but it gets people like you talking about their new SUV. It's practically free advertising.
It's the massive hypocrisy in our government. And guaranteed some politicians are being paid off to allow these massive tablets in cars. "ItS tHe FuTuRe!" No. No it is not.
@@stupidvideos1449 continue to prioritize looking at screens over watching the road and you may not live long enough to have some dumb kid call you an old man.
@@mardochejulien9840 I remember consoles use to kisy be teenage boys arguing in middle school. And phones? Well... actually I can imagine that. But is there really a community to phones? Like it's hard to imagine a phone "enthusiast"
Best and most honest review........I drove both and thought the same thing.......accelerating from driving speeds was better to me with the Mach E GT but both cars were great......after the shock of this being Mustang .....as a person who owned a 1969 428 Cobra Jet.......it did not disappoint because honestly it accelerated much better than that car. Most "spot" races happen from 40 to 50 mph on and instant torque is one hell of a thing......miss that grunt and noise of my Cobra Jet.....440 Coronet......454 Chevelle.....and 455 GS......but that Mustang and Tesla would blow their doors off.....quietly....LOL
Actually that’s exactly why. Think about it they want you off your phone so they give you a screen that helps you stay off your phone it’s better to look at a car screen then a phone screen.
16:12 YESSSSS THANK YOU DOUG I’ve been a car enthusiast since middle school and hate hearing people say that one car is better than another only because it’s quicker at 0-60.
@@TESLAenjoyer But... It's not. As Doug mentions, the Mach E GT is a better driving car, even if not as quick. It is more familiar to people leaving conventional ICE sports cars behind, and it has arguably much better looks.
Yeah, and even then, numbers aren't everything. I can have fun in both my WRX STI and my Geo Metro. They're completely different cars and I have entirely different kinds of fun in them, but I still enjoy both of them in their own ways. (My Metro can out-stop most vehicles and it's on really old 145-width tires, so it amazes me each time that it does.)
He's right. I used to own a Prius before a Tesla. I've always been attracted to high-tech, futuristic cars. And for a time the Prius was the highest-tech car you could get.
So true and everything Doug said is correct. I love my M3, but the service and other experience is just the worst in the industry and I will switch to another EV as the competitors catch up.
I wish the Tesla charging network factored into Doug’s reviews, it’s what makes having an ev viable for any sort of long distance trip. The alternatives are currently garbage.
Not a fan of the wheels. I guess I’d pony up for the performance package for the far more attractive wheels, even sharper handling, and same acceleration as the model y performance. I suspect it will be the Doug score champion in this segment
@@royb5014 I could care less about the badging and the wheels are just nit picking. I was referring to Doug’s dislike of the wheels and I rather agree. I’ll leave snarky comments to mustang fans who find it a sacrilege to label a small electric suv with a mustang gt badge.
Doug, I'm a big fan of you, EVs, Mustangs, but I don't wanna call this a Mustang. If Ford just made the Mustang an electric fastback, it would've been great
yeah it completely undersells the mustang concept as a whole. Big mistake by Ford to ruin its legendary product, by turning it into a big boat SUV. Tskk tssk
Who thinks in like a year or two, they should release a full “wagon” version. Square off that back end. I’d be way way more interested as a full SUV/Crossover wagon.
This so called mustang nor what you are explaining should be called a mustang. However they are both pretty awesome ideas....Don't understand why they felt the need to call it the mustang, obviously people are interested in fast electric cars with cargo space regardless if it has a familiar name it's not the freakin 50s guys there's this thing called the internet.
@@alansmith2693 Yea for a quick fix....i.e. things people can afford to impulse buy or news. Most folks can't afford to impulse buy a car but I guess now a days plenty do regardless. I would think it will repel the majority of their mustang fan base to include the target market that they once went for. I would say cars like the Camaro are going to get a bit of a bump in sales thanks to this move. To me it doesn't make since, I'm a purest when it comes to cars, and many of the mustang target market for the last 56 years are as well. I.e. the manual transmission crowd. Like I said cool idea as far as the car itself is concerned, horrible marketing idea and really not needed. There is a huge market for EVs already, no need to be controversial about it. Just my opinion. I know for me if I want a mustang ill just buy any generation but this one and if I want an EV this new "mustang" won't be in the running thanks to this ridiculous marketing technique. Call me petty if you want but I'll throw money at a tesla before this thing just out of spite and I'm a Ford fan boy. I have owned and enjoyed 2 F-250s, 1 expedition, 1 focus, 1 F-150 and 2 mustangs. Guess I'm not there target market anymore just like many former mustang owners.
That temp peg on the back door is also to keep you from accidentally smashing your fingers in the door since they are asking you to reach in to open it.
They really should have named this to the Thunderbird line, or maybe even bring back the Torino line, since those were more luxury/family oriented, also having the electric ford lightning with the electric ford thunderbird just makes sense
Its really simple , it has nothing to do with car people. MUSTANG is the only brand name known worldwide that they could use to draw attention. They are doing same thing with BRONCO brand, spinning it off as a sub brand that means cool off road vehicles.
The latest has the same electronic pop-out flush design. God it is a breathtaking redesign/update (even with the new flush handles - unnecessarily complicated, but still beautiful).
That is likely to change within 2 months though. Depending on how the new rules regarding made in the USA turn out, the (made in Mexico) Mach-E might even end up with lower incentives than the Tesla.
The GT may not be eligible for US tax credits if the proposed Congressional changes take place in 2022: they include a potential cap of $55k MSRP (or even less; some have suggested $40k) for tax credits. And as of now, it's $7500 credit, not $10k credit, anyway.
The other thing that has been noticed at some Ford Dealerships is that they added 20k over MSRP I can only imagine they are trying to put customers off or trying to make money due to lack of maintenance being needed.
@@prashantkompella5372 only a few states offer rebates, and some of those are pretty restrictive... Massachusetts is now capped at $40k or $50k MSRP...
@@TESLAenjoyer not really, it's just easier to hit a button which is always in same place. But we get it, it's cheaper to have a screen, and for some size of that screen is now most important thing while buying a car.
@@TESLAenjoyer that’s not boomer mentality. Having respect for analog controls such as actual switches/buttons/and ESPECIALLY gauges is a matter of preference and opinion. Your “Gen Z” cohort should REALLY consider having respect for your elders & even for yourselves. By far the softest generation I’ve ever seen or heard of. You guys have no concept of reality and the reality y’all want is purely strange.
@@DrewHolli are you sure about that? From my experience most apple users mind their own business. Most of toxic comments come from Android users, who can’t fathom someone preferring an iPhone, at least on twitter.
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 oh really? What states? I thought the $7500 was for any state but each OEM only gets a certain number of cars sold with the rebate. Tesla has gone over but Ford hasn't
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 These are new, so there's no data on depreciation yet. Being a Ford does not mean it automatically tanks in value. Some Ford models have strong resale value, they are not all equal.
I could not agree with you more Doug on the Tesla fanboy's lack of understanding of overall vehicle dynamics and seeing 0 - 60 acceleration as the only benchmark!
Better looking, and cheaper than every Tesla! When I see a Tesla on the road its like cool whatever, when I see a Mach-E I always have to point it out, just absolutely future looking!! So cool!!
It's a car, so that's one checkbox. It's got a plenty of muscle, so that's another. Define musclecar for us. Do you mean rear wheel drive? Do you mean a coupe? Do you mean 2 seater? I'd argue that a "classic American muscle car" is a specific type of vehicle: RWD, live axles, all the torque and not much horsepower, can't turn for shit etc. But that "musclecar" alone is just a powerful vehicle, I've seen the M3 referred to as a muscle car. I've seen the Model 3 repeatedly called the greatest muscle car every made.
@@Kevin-hp5fk 2 doors, can be coupe, targe or convertible, rwd and V8. The live rear axle, cant turn and no hp can be argued. Who tf wants to drive a car that drives like shit
@@Kevin-hp5fk that's one of the problems with the word "muscle car" it makes no sense in reality and it almost seems to be more related to body style and afiliation to something related to a muscle car (i didnt express myself like i would want, but it's the closest i can get) rather than some actual specific stuff. From what i heard around, aparently BMW's dont count because they are too "luxury centric". Either way the problem is that this thing is an SUV, and i dont think that it fits within the pattern of muscle cars. A non american muscle car would be the australian Holden UTE's aparently. I dont think anyone has an actual proper definition for muscle car tbh. Also it's no wonder why everyone is pissed about this thing being named mustang, it has no proper relation with what any mustang has been.
I'm still not understanding the hate on this car, if you're really that caught up over the name i'll be the one to tell you thats not a good enough reason lol.
What do you love and how would you like it wildly misrepresented for marketing purposes? Maybe a corvette minivan? Or perhaps a Wrangler sedan? If not, may I interest you in a V12 Tesla that gets 6mpg? It's not the car, it's branding it a Mustang.
@@curtbalch2321 Branding it as a Mustang makes sense. The original Mustang was supposed to be a cheap, sporty car for the masses, and the Mach-E still fits that description.
I am a car guy and I own a model three performance. I had several performance gas cars prior to this one. Your review was 100% honest, and the overwhelming majority of Tesla owners are pretentious Elon worshipers that are not car people. I would love a gauge cluster in my car. I think Tesla makes the absolute best daily driving car, but for a fun weekend car no thanks
Whatever else you can say about Tesla, they have forced all the other car companies to innovate. I doubt this car would exist in this form if it didn't have to compete with Tesla.
You forgot one MAJOR plus for the Mach-E, you can get it serviced without having to travel out of town to do it. I think that's a big selling point here because one of the main reasons I havent bought a Tesla is the closest "dealership" or service center is 3 hours away from me.
@@DoughnutsInspace I agree and I don't blame Tesla for the lack of infrastructure. Regardless of who is at fault though, it's still an issue. As far as sending techs to you, well I haven't heard great things about that process either. I'm not opposed to Tesla, I am a fan of Elon and of the tech that Tesla provides, I just think they come up short in this department.
@@xraycat82 Yes they do but the whole program doesn't exactly have great reviews from those who have had to use it. People like simplicity and for reasons (some out of Elon's control) this process is not simple. That's all I was trying to say. People are already nervous enough of about the switch to electric.
One thing you didn’t mention in your comparison: charging networks I don’t know if you’ve had experience with the various charging networks but the Supercharging network is way ahead of everything else, especially terms of ease of use.
This is the second reason I went with the model y performance over this. First was not having to deal with dealerships trying to mark these up as well as other junk they try to pull.
True but 1) not really a factor for daily/weekend driving, which is 90% of 90% of drivers' use case for a car of this type; and 2) the charging network operators Ford has in its network have been closing the gap on Tesla pretty rapidly over the last year or two, and at least where I live (mid-Atlantic) the Ford network is entirely adequate. Throw in the fact that Tesla's excellent destination charger network can be used by other cars with a relatively inexpensive adapter and the difference, while real, has less impact on real-world practicality for most owners than Tesla fanbois would have one believe. If course this dependent on one's particular use case and the particulars of the networks where one lives, so YMMV (literally).
Ford plug and charge functionality thru its app has been pretty seamless in the months we've had our Mach-E. I've only used it three times (little enough to have a lot of the free kWhs they give you remaining) but each time it's been a completely seamless plug and charge experience for me. Again, I guess it depends on where you are. There's no doubt that the fact Tesla owns its network is an advantage in terms of their quality control but I personally have no complaints.
Absolutely. As an aspiring EV owner in the midwest, there is no other option other than tesla. REALLY want a Rivian R1t, but it's just not practical here.
The supercharging network only matters on roadtrips and every day the supercharger network on electrify america is built out more and more. Tesla’s biggest strength is the battery technology advantages rather than the superficial advantage of the “better built out charging network” which is being eroded every day. Don’t get me started in rhe build quality of an traditional car company with 20-30 years minimum in car production compared to Tesla who are still working out the small issues in auto production.
As always, a great video. I might just add on the pros/cons for Mustang v. Tesla, Ford is a car company making electric cars. Tesla is a technology company making electric cars. I think we have to acknowledge that Mustang is going to be better built, and as Doug indicated, service is going to have to be easier down the road with the Ford.
@@AP13P Tesla's are notoriously poorly built. The interior of a Model 3 is directly comparable with a Ford Fusion, and that's not saying much. It's honestly pretty sad when Ford's have better fit and finish than cars priced 3 times as much. Tesla's are cool from a novelty standpoint, but they're struggling horribly with fit and finish.
@@OhPhuckYou I purchased two model Y's, and both had perfect build qualities. I was ready to cancel my deliveries if I found anything, and boy did I check. You will need a better argument as things have improved a lot. You only see the negative, people don't talk about the positive as much. I've owned over 20 cars, and so far the Tesla's have needed zero maintenance. Can't say that for most other cars I've owned. Everything else is subjective so to each their own.
Yeah I kind of agree there, but the Ford C-Max never sold well and was basically a compliance vehicle. Ford was smart for naming this one "Mustang" from a marketing standpoint. Sales for these are showing that it paid off.
It's actually a brilliant move. People need motivation to buy a new product. They wouldn't buy a new EV from Ford if it had a brand new name with no history.
@Paul S I see what you mean with Dodge (although both the Charger and Challenger are the best selling models in their tiny segments, which is still pretty impressive on its own since they still sell in fairly large retail numbers and not just mostly fleet, and also given their old age as you mentioned)... but the Edge and Ecosport are the only mediocre/poor-selling models that Ford sells now. They pretty much own the fleet/commercial market with the Transit variants, and virtually every other SUV/CUV they sell now has either been a sales success (Explorer, Escape) or sales hit (Maverick, Bronco/Sport, Mach-E) in recent years. The Expedition is still mid-pack sales-wise and the Ford GT supercar not included. I will say that it's pretty pathetic that Ford bowed out of the sedan market entirely though, as if admitting defeat when Toyota and Honda can still confidently move hefty amounts of Camry's and Accords annually without resorting to many fleet sales.
Tesla’s EPA range numbers are overly optimistic. Ford’s range numbers are more realistic. In reality the model Y performance and the Mach e GT get about the same real-world range. Doug should be comparing real-world ranges. Doing anything else risks creating unrealistic expectations or doing some manufacturers a disservice.
Doug, It would be very helpful if you did a side by side real world test of these two vehicles - Mach e GT and Model Y performance. Basing your comparison on the manufacturers specs is a starting point but most of us would really like to know what these vehicles are do in the real world. Especially in this case, when it is pretty well known that Tesla tends to be very optimistic in its numbers, and Ford has decided it is better to understate the capability. (They learned from some previous experiences.)
I'm a little bit surprised you don't mention the Supercharger network as a key feature of Teslas over the competition. Is that not the case anymore in the US??
2019 Doug loves how subtle the 2003 Audi RS6s exterior styling is. 2021 Doug thinks the Mustang Mach E GTs exterior styling is to subtle. Bro...bro....make up your mind bro.
I love everything about it except that it's a mustang crossover. I hope Lincoln will make a performance and luxury oriented crossover. That will interest me alot more more.
I think it's one attractive car and much better than that marshmallow looking Tesla Model Y. You want to talk about questionable after a late night of drinking there you have it.
I wonder if Doug Jr. enjoys the bedtime stories from car owner's manuals.
I do
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In his Lightning McQueen PJs
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It's weird how you can get a "Mustang" with no exhausts and a Camry with "quad exhausts".
Haha, so true
True
Its not true quads. Both outer exhausts are fake.
Mustang was originally a family car
Out of the 4 exhaust outlets on the Camry, only two are functional.
I wish Ford would offer this in a nice caramel color. Then I could drive around in my Ford caramel Mach-E auto.
Dad, please stop
Clever. Very clever
Nice! +8 dad points.
brilliant
Funny!
Doug upsetting Tesla owners, Prius owners and Mustang owners at the same time. Absolute legend
It's even funnier when you find out that Doug used to own a Prius.
"it drives like a mustang"
50% of people: wow, thats impressive
other 50% of people: those poor crowds wont even hear it coming now
Pretty sure my neighbours heard me laugh!!
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Doug in this video is offending both Mustang fanboys and Tesla fanboys.
And I love it. Keep up!
Right! Because as a Ford fanboy those Tesla fanboys are Hell! I don't know who's worse, Tesla fanboys, Apple Fanboys or Samsungs? Seriously they are some of the most vicious.
@@twany442 Agreed. As someone who is a fanboy of neither, the Ford fanboys are FAR more tolerable than the Tesla fanboys.
@@twany442 It's a result of media putting false stories trying to destroy Tesla especially in the early days. Ultimately I think that galvanized the fan base. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet tried for years to bring Tesla down with short selling plays in the stock market, Bill having indirect ownership of MS NBC.
@@steveseeger No thhe media isn't in trying to destroy Tesla. The fan boys are doing it on their own. They are vicious with high elements of smugness and they are intolerable. I can't even enjoy something Ford has done even if it doesn't consist of an EV and yet the Tesla's Fanboys are still on spewing hate. So no you're absolutely wrong.
Much better than a boring POS Tesla with poor quality control
Something about the Tesla people coming from Priuses for some reason was hilarious but incredibly accurate
Glad I’m not the only one that found that humorous.
Leave Prius owners alone XD.
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Yep. Spot on.
One important thing Doug failed to mention is that the Mustang Mach-E currently qualifies for the $7,500 federal tax credit where the Tesla vehicles don’t. Technically the Mach-E GT costs much less than the model Y.
@@idk-gq3lh there is a limit to how many tax credits car companies can give… Tesla ran out a long time ago
This is a pretty big omission. He actually says the Mach-E is slightly cheaper than the Y when driving the car but I think he accidentally misspoke (correctly) around the 15:00 mark. With the tax credit, this car should get an extra pt in that Doug Score
Good point. Although if the tax credit bill passes that all changes anyway (and prices are changing all the time too), so in a few months who knows.... And you can't even get a Model Y Long Range until well into next year anyway so it's almost impossible to really forecast.
Ya well How much does it cost to replace a Battery? And Why does our government think they can Build electric Cars and demand them. When they can't even Get 1 chip.. and that cripples the entire auto industry for almost 2 years now
@@future.mortician It's called our Government wasting our dollars to Mandate we all drive electric cars and give up our freedom of choice
Doug: "I won't talk about the normal quirks because I already reviewed a Mach-e, only the GT specific ones"
Also Doug: spends five minutes talking about those goddamned door handles again.
Let him be
@@yahireduardosotogarcia9433 Why?
@@yahireduardosotogarcia9433 take a joke Joe
LOL
@@agnez1739 ayyyy @youtube can you please do something about all these god damned spam porn comments? Or at least let it link to some real porn, all it is is computer viruses lol
"It feels like a Mustang ".....Mustang people have left the chat...and are on the way to Doug's house to beat his @ss
Can you blame them though? You have to understand what type of people will be buyng theese cars and what people would buy an actual mustang. Just imagine a random girl with a kid coming up to you while you are getting out of a 2015 mustang sayng "hey, i have a mustang too!" And showing you this thing. Its infuriating because it doesnt actually represent what a mustang has always been known as, and while the car itself might not be bad, it's still not what the badge claims. Any other name could have made this a really well recieved SUV from the car community and they went ahead and did this as a marketing trick, wich car people logically took as an insult to the legacy of the mustang.
Mustang in name only. Same as the 1974-1978 mustang ii
@@Ferrari255GTO"it doesnt actually represent what a mustang has always been known as" - who decides again what a Mustang is and what not? "it's still not what the badge claims" - who decides again what a Mustang is and what not? right. Ford does and not haters like you😊 "its not a real mustang 😡😢🥺" LIKE JUST STFU. Its a Mustang. PERIODT. FACTS dont CARE aboy ya FEELINGS :)
@@zzygyy The Mustang 2 Cobra is my favorite Mustang. Small with a big V8 and looks amazing. (rare too)
Mustangs are already known as the jackass's entry level sports car. Combine that with a Tesla, you've compounded the issue tenfold.
Who else is looking forward to Dougcember?
Best month of the year!
@Funny what are you doing here?
I'm here
@@adnanabdillahghifari720 a Bot, I believe
@Funny 😂
Please someone get Doug in a Rivian. I really want to hear his honest opinions on it and I'm sad that such a huge number of other UA-camrs who don't normally do cars got the chance before him.
Doug already teased the Rivian review on his Instagram.
Its Because he only cares about cars n bids now, thats his cash cow. UA-cam is not that important anymore.
problem with the rivian is that its going to be a fucking hundred grand before you get it HALF decently equipped... regardless of EV rebates its impractically expensive... its flat out cheaper to eat the cost of 22mpg in my 2020 ram with a hemi than pay the extra cost for the EV but cheaper fuel (electric per mile vs gas per mile) and thats not even taking into account the STUPIDDDDD parts of owning an EV like the fact the charge will be drastically shorter in winter and you have to plan long distance vacations around charging spots
@@HarryMollyNut Doug said that he still values UA-cam. That's his business.
@@HarryMollyNut yeah right ...people with half his channel and no staff make 800k-2 million a month just from adsense and at least double that from sponsorships ....youtube is a huge cash cow don't be fooled ....and his channel can get much bigger than it already is
His hands travelled 10,000 miles in just this video alone 😳
🤓🫣
“I’d make the practical choice…”
- Owner of multiple Land Rovers
Owner of multiple Land Rovers... And an Aston Martin, Mercedes AMG, Dodge Viper, and Ford GT.
@@rotorhead5826 don't forget the rs2 too
TIL a hobbyist/collector is completely incapable of any sort of practicality.
“I’d make the practical choice…”
- man who drives 25k miles a year and opts for notoriously poor build quality and 5 week wait time for repairs
If he maintains them properly, of course
Nothing screams Muscle Car like a Soccer Mom SUV.
Exactly. Idk wtf Doug was thinking.
@Funny F off with your porn. Keep that in your search history.
@Jennifer
@Funny
Stop. We know some 50 year old dude is running those accounts.
That'll outgun all the actual muscle cars 🤷♂️
@@23sam42 so can a bugatti chiron but yet nobody cares
I prefer the sleeper look over gaudy badging, but those GT wheels are gawd awful!
And the first thing I noticed? Drum roll PLEASE...The ugly ass rims.
I prefer the classic Mustang look and configuration..
The other GT wheels look much better. Doug just happened to review the GT with the worst color/wheels
The rims give me Subaru crostek vibes
@@oliverg6643 u mean crosstrek?
Didn't he say he prefers minimal badging for performance versions ? I swear to god he used to praise old performance cars for their subtle badging..but now its a con ? 😜
sure but 1 badge stating its the performance version is not much i think he means like 2-3 but not like 5+
Its cause you can't even tell
It really could use a wide racing stripe in a contrasting color on the sides with the GT logo...and maybe one on the hood too.
@@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 maybe some fake scoops and a fake tailpipe
@@Chrisb8s LOL! Yeah! Or a tail pipe speaker programmed to sound any way you want at any speed-cuz i really don't like the idea of silent vehicles at *ANY* speed... Mine would sound like a Tie Fighter....AAAARRRHHHHHWWWHH!
For anyone who doesn't understand why handling matters more that tenths of a second in acceleration I challenge you to take a test ride in a 160-ish hp Miata.
Eh... People who don't understand why handling matters, quite frankly, aren't car enthusiasts and they don't care about cars. They want a status symbol, another way to boast about the silly numbers game the car world has become.
"My car does 0-60 in XX seconds, my car does the quarter mile in XX seconds, and my car fits my massive cock too!" And of course, they never EVER enjoy the car's handling capabilities or characteristics, they drive it from point A to B and that's it.
If they drive a miata, they're gonna complain that it's too small, too slow, and/or not worth the price. They don't care, they just want to use them as transportation with the added bonus of fashion or flaunting wealth.
@@njoythedrive Oh sure, they'll enjoy that 0-60 time, right into the back of another car or a light post in a parking lot trying to show it off
@@njoythedrive For sure, that’s honestly what I dislike about muscle cars here in the US. Realistically, they’re mostly driven by people who know nothing about cars in general. They just know they like Mustangs or Chargers because it has a big v8 and that alone equals performance. A Challenger Hellcat or Raptor in the hands of a normal person isn’t a performance car any more than a Camry or base model RAM is, yet that’s mostly who’s buying them, in my area at least.
@@njoythedrive you have to take into consideration that not everyone wants good handling because some people live in areas where they don’t have good driving roads. Some people just want straight line acceleration because they’ll use that more than good handling.
haha dodge demon go WHEEEEEE
Doug: Focus RS has too many badges!
Also Doug: I wish the Mach e GT had more badges
Yeah Doug is contradictory alot of the times, but I still love his reviews.
@@user-xw4vg1vy5e honestly, most entertaining. You can watch the entire review without getting bored
@@user-xw4vg1vy5e Well, the RS is plastered with badges and the GT only has what.. 4 of them? I guess he's saying he expected more indication that he's driving the performance model. Maybe a rear wing, side scoops, hood scoops, etc. Same with the Teslas. It's hard for the untrained eye to tell when a performance version is rolling by.
“the car doesn’t stand out as a GT”
>gets a generic white GT instead of the EXCLUSIVE Cyber Orange GT color
Saw one of those orange ones yesterday on the road and it was quite striking. Wheels look way better for sure.
It's not even a Mustang
@@Jay-jb2vr Should have been called the probe
My friend recently let me drive his new Mach-E. Never mind all the other quirks and features, my absolute favourite is the fact that you can program it to emit a V8 rumble under acceleration. It's hilariously useless, but I wouldn't turn it off.
Horrendous
@@reformedgarbage5415 just let people have their fun dude
@@aqua_whale I'm allowed to have my own opinion.
@@aqua_whale listening to a speaker isn't fun
When i picked up a a set of 1yo winter tires the owner just recently bought a standard Mach 1. I got the opportunity to have a seat. Inside it's the typical American interior with the huge display in the middle and a rather surprisingly tiny instrument screen in front of the driver. The door "handle" even though odd looking is actually very practical. I also thought it would be much bigger which really surprised me. 😮
Never thought "mustang" and "suv" would come together
Unfortunately we live in a sad world where it’s possible
And electric..
They should have just called it the Mach E, and Mach E GT. That way when the inevitable electric ACTUAL Mustang happens, it can be the Mustang Mach E
Way to go Ford. Cant wait to see you butcher the E Mustang name given you already used the best possible one for it.
I said the same thing about the Mitsubishi Eclipse. Cars are dying man, but some cool cars are coming about at the same time. But yeah the ever changing car market is kinda worrying at times. Kinda like how the new Porsche is a Taycon Turbo S. But it's electric. No turbo in sight.
@@agnez3877 wtf
Doug's thoughts on Tesla is just dead on.
He forgot to mention body panel fitment, while I'm no fan of Ford, I do have to say I'm sure the panel gaps are even while those tesla gaps are... we'll call them "getting better."
He also forgot to mention the most important aspect of electric cars. Charging. Tesla is so far ahead of everyone in charging station it’s a joke. Doug travels far distances and doesn’t even mention this, must not have experienced the tragedy of charging a Mach E on a road trip.
@@robob221 Depends on the country. Here in Germany there are less Tesla Charging Station than the ones that work for all other electric cars. So the infrastucture regarding charging stations is coming along very well here in Germany & Tesla doesn't have the best charging network anymore.
The Argument regarding Charging Stations seems to be mostly coming from the US and especially the UK where finding a Tesla Charging Station seems to be very easy while not so much for other electric cars. But it definitely is not the case here in Germany.
Which is probably also why i keep seeing more and more Audi, Mercedes, VW, Opel, BMW electric cars week by week, but of course also a lot of Teslas, but they definitely aren't the "most common electric car" you see here in Germany
@@robob221 I experienced the Mach E charging "tragedy" at least 5 times this summer on extended road trips and I am alive to talk about it. Spoiler alert - it was flawless other than having to find a slightly altered route through West Virginia. Charging isn't that different from a Tesla. -Especially for as infrequent most people need to charge away from home. If you live in an apartment, different story. Buy a Tesla (still depends on where you live though - my area has more non-Tesla super charging locations that Super Chargers). If you are able to install a Lvl 2 charger at home, charging should be similar and I advise people to consider other pro/cons first. Might be odd that Doug didnt mention it but also refreshing because it's not as big of a factor as Tesla owners want everyone to believe. PS - I don't hate Tesla (wanted one until the competition started catching up) but the cult is boring.
Agreed. Tesla people all come from A to B cars and think Tesla Performance is the end all be all lol
I'm sure Doug's gestures are getting more animated. Maybe he's holding his bladder.
when you drive too many italian cars you become italian
@@pinsantoni Demuro is an Italian last name. 🤔
@@oktosite_ 🤨
@@oktosite_ So that's why he talks with his hands so much hehe
he needs to ARTICULATE!
I wish Ford will revive the “Thunderbird” name for their first major electric car platform
😥 😥
That name would be more reasonable. Now they‘ve just discredited the Mustang name
Thunder is noisy. How about "Ford Stealth"? 😃
@@clasqm kind of an uninspiring name
@@clasqm i think dodge has that name
No, ruining the Mustang (and now lightning) name is way better.
Ford really had the balls to call this the GT 😂
Yes because it is
Still better than a Model Y Performance.
At least not as bad as Porsche with their Taycan Turbo.😂
I will wait and see if they dare to slap Shelby name into this.
@@neovenom9833 true 😂
This asks the all important question: if you can't hear a Mustang from three blocks away, is it really a Mustang?
If I owned it, I would probably refer to it as the Mach E instead of Mustang Mach E. I'm pretty sure most others will do the same.
You can still hear the sound of people screaming as it drives through a crowd
@@Vinrx7 I'm kind of considering one. I told my girlfriend I would be referring to it as a Mach E. And that the word Mustanf wouldn't be used at all to describe the car. She agreed.
Although, I could probably live with the top level non GT. I just can't see spending $20k for a .5 in 0-60. I'd rather have the extra range.
@@steveawesome9538 I'm also considering this (Mach E). I'm debating on if I want to spend the extra money on the GT. I would want to get it before the end of the year so I dont miss out on the federal rebate. The rebate amount might go down or be completely gone by 2022 so I would need to find a dealership with these in stock. Turns out there is one by my house that has the GT. Not sure if they allow test drives but I'll have to make a decision quick.
@@Vinrx7 go find a dealership that has one. Ask them to hold it, find your way to the dealership. If you like it, buy it and drive it home. By the time you get home you'll be an expert on how to charge it.
Road trip! Might be a lot of fun knowing you'll have to stop and take a break every few hours to charge the car and maybe look around at stuff.
Fun Fact: The ground clearance on this is lower than the V8 Mustang GT coupe.
Wait what why would they do that
@@byrdland5790 the batteries are under the car
These 2021 mustang Mach e gts are less than 35k now with 15k miles on them now
Bruh Ford Should Not Call This a Mustang They Should’ve Called This The Ford Edge Ev Why Call This a Mustang
Edit: the amount of Tesla fanboys and the Ford fanboys are fighting in the comments lol
Or just call it the Mach E, without the mustang name. They could have kept the styling without the horse.
@@neovenom9833 that's the right call. The performance #s earn "Mach", but it's no Mustang
It's simple. They used it to get people's attention. They know it's absurd but it gets people like you talking about their new SUV. It's practically free advertising.
@@growupcalvin not all advertising is good advertising.
@@growupcalvin and it works great. With another name it would get a fraction of the attention.
That interior is awful. I can't understand how using a phone whilst driving is dangerous, yet screwing a massive tablet to the dash is perfectly fine.
It's just plain shìt bro
It's the massive hypocrisy in our government. And guaranteed some politicians are being paid off to allow these massive tablets in cars. "ItS tHe FuTuRe!" No. No it is not.
Ok old man
@@stupidvideos1449 🤓
@@stupidvideos1449 continue to prioritize looking at screens over watching the road and you may not live long enough to have some dumb kid call you an old man.
Doug being afraid to say correct statements just shows how unnecessarily vitriolic people are about car opinions.
"Vitriolic" that's such a good word for it.
The car community is the most toxic community I've ever seen tbh.
@@baronvonjo1929 Then u don't know the phone and the gaming console community
@@mardochejulien9840 I remember consoles use to kisy be teenage boys arguing in middle school. And phones? Well... actually I can imagine that. But is there really a community to phones? Like it's hard to imagine a phone "enthusiast"
@@baronvonjo1929 Haha there is for phones. Don't tell me u hav never seen an android/Samsung person arguing with an apple person?!
Best and most honest review........I drove both and thought the same thing.......accelerating from driving speeds was better to me with the Mach E GT but both cars were great......after the shock of this being Mustang .....as a person who owned a 1969 428 Cobra Jet.......it did not disappoint because honestly it accelerated much better than that car.
Most "spot" races happen from 40 to 50 mph on and instant torque is one hell of a thing......miss that grunt and noise of my Cobra Jet.....440 Coronet......454 Chevelle.....and 455 GS......but that Mustang and Tesla would blow their doors off.....quietly....LOL
yeah i love that theyre fast but i can only see myself buying an EV as a daily. for my fun, fast, weekend car im going gas guzzling v8 every time😂
Boomers killed the housing market so we killed the Mustang
I love how is illegal to use your phone while driving but every new car has 1-2 full size tablets stuck to the dashboard
Not to mention so many simple 1-button tasks are buried inside of menus within menus.
@@joelness kind of counterproductive don’t you think?
Actually that’s exactly why. Think about it they want you off your phone so they give you a screen that helps you stay off your phone it’s better to look at a car screen then a phone screen.
@@dasa5023 its not really better to look at a car screen
@@megajoe811 over your phone absolutely it is
16:12 YESSSSS THANK YOU DOUG I’ve been a car enthusiast since middle school and hate hearing people say that one car is better than another only because it’s quicker at 0-60.
The only problem is that Tesla model Y is better in every single way 😂
@@TESLAenjoyer But... It's not.
As Doug mentions, the Mach E GT is a better driving car, even if not as quick. It is more familiar to people leaving conventional ICE sports cars behind, and it has arguably much better looks.
@@TESLAenjoyer in what way ? The quality of tesla is garbage
Yeah, and even then, numbers aren't everything. I can have fun in both my WRX STI and my Geo Metro. They're completely different cars and I have entirely different kinds of fun in them, but I still enjoy both of them in their own ways.
(My Metro can out-stop most vehicles and it's on really old 145-width tires, so it amazes me each time that it does.)
@Catholic Firefighter An electric car will never work as a penis enlarger as they sound like vacuum cleaners at best.
I love how he insulted Tesla drivers as people coming from Priuses. He’s right. I drive a Tesla and the dweebs that drive it are incessant.
prius is a great car too
Relatively successful dweebs. The best of all dweebs. Or are they the worst? I don't know
He's right. I used to own a Prius before a Tesla. I've always been attracted to high-tech, futuristic cars. And for a time the Prius was the highest-tech car you could get.
So true and everything Doug said is correct. I love my M3, but the service and other experience is just the worst in the industry and I will switch to another EV as the competitors catch up.
@@b1uezea1ot you are calling your 🐸 vacuum cleaner M3?
Stop it man
Doug casually cleaning his snicker finger smudge off the rear door when closing the door……. Very smooth, Doug. Very smooth.
Time stamp?
Unpopular opinion ppl myself included would’ve like this car if it didn’t have a mustang badge
That is a popular opinion
people like you don’t buy new cars
I wish the Tesla charging network factored into Doug’s reviews, it’s what makes having an ev viable for any sort of long distance trip. The alternatives are currently garbage.
@@hcim1809 he has a Koenigsegg Jesko pfp a new car also he's got a point the badge pisses me off would've been dope if it was called the Mach-E only
@Illunworth I would it's a good car I won't deny it
Not a fan of the wheels. I guess I’d pony up for the performance package for the far more attractive wheels, even sharper handling, and same acceleration as the model y performance. I suspect it will be the Doug score champion in this segment
Agree with you on the wheels, although I’ve heard you can take the black plastic pieces off, just haven’t seen what it looks like without them.
It's an SUV with a Mustang GT badge, and your issue is the wheels?
Car culture dieing right before our eyes.
@@royb5014 yup.
@@royb5014 I could care less about the badging and the wheels are just nit picking. I was referring to Doug’s dislike of the wheels and I rather agree. I’ll leave snarky comments to mustang fans who find it a sacrilege to label a small electric suv with a mustang gt badge.
It looks like it has wheels that belong on an Alpha Romero
I have 3 Teslas. Great, great cars. But the service absolutely SUCKS. Great point to consider.
Doug, I'm a big fan of you, EVs, Mustangs, but I don't wanna call this a Mustang. If Ford just made the Mustang an electric fastback, it would've been great
yeah it completely undersells the mustang concept as a whole. Big mistake by Ford to ruin its legendary product, by turning it into a big boat SUV. Tskk tssk
An electric fastback would definitely sell too.
@Scroto T Baggins Painfully true.
I don't like this car but I like Doug's reviews.
Same
Agreed
"The 2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E GT Is an Electric Muscle Car"
Mustang Lithium: "And I took that personally."
Lol Mach 1 is joke
The Mach-E is not a Mustang.
@@HeyBigChriss It literally, objectively, is though 🤔 Just not a mustang you like
@@HeyBigChriss ok petrol boomer
@@MichaelSmith-fq5yr it’s not a mustang, it’s a good electric SUV. A mustang is a muscle CAR. It will never be a crossover SUV
Who thinks in like a year or two, they should release a full “wagon” version. Square off that back end. I’d be way way more interested as a full SUV/Crossover wagon.
But then they couldn’t really call it a mustang, wouldn’t retain any of the features
@@extremeencounter7458 it never did, lol
This so called mustang nor what you are explaining should be called a mustang. However they are both pretty awesome ideas....Don't understand why they felt the need to call it the mustang, obviously people are interested in fast electric cars with cargo space regardless if it has a familiar name it's not the freakin 50s guys there's this thing called the internet.
@@nateplissken3019 Controversy sells dude. If they called it a Ford Fairlane, no one would've taken notice.
@@alansmith2693 Yea for a quick fix....i.e. things people can afford to impulse buy or news. Most folks can't afford to impulse buy a car but I guess now a days plenty do regardless. I would think it will repel the majority of their mustang fan base to include the target market that they once went for. I would say cars like the Camaro are going to get a bit of a bump in sales thanks to this move. To me it doesn't make since, I'm a purest when it comes to cars, and many of the mustang target market for the last 56 years are as well. I.e. the manual transmission crowd. Like I said cool idea as far as the car itself is concerned, horrible marketing idea and really not needed. There is a huge market for EVs already, no need to be controversial about it. Just my opinion. I know for me if I want a mustang ill just buy any generation but this one and if I want an EV this new "mustang" won't be in the running thanks to this ridiculous marketing technique. Call me petty if you want but I'll throw money at a tesla before this thing just out of spite and I'm a Ford fan boy. I have owned and enjoyed 2 F-250s, 1 expedition, 1 focus, 1 F-150 and 2 mustangs. Guess I'm not there target market anymore just like many former mustang owners.
I bet Doug moans when he plugs in a hybrid.
Most Hybrids don't even have the option to plug them in... Plugin Hybrids do, but they're in the minority of Hybrids.
Ford should have called it the Model T GT to make Tesla annoyed
Or just call it a edge
Tesla doesn't care what 10 years behind companies do.
I dont think elon could be bothered by this thing at all
@@ziggs123 only 10? You a ford fan boy lol?
@@draxxsklounst6595 Oh I'll bet Elon will be watching this.
That temp peg on the back door is also to keep you from accidentally smashing your fingers in the door since they are asking you to reach in to open it.
I think that's ultimately the point, honestly can't believe Doug didn't mention it at all.
They really should have named this to the Thunderbird line, or maybe even bring back the Torino line, since those were more luxury/family oriented, also having the electric ford lightning with the electric ford thunderbird just makes sense
It's nice looking but I don't get the name?weird
Its really simple , it has nothing to do with car people. MUSTANG is the only brand name known worldwide that they could use to draw attention. They are doing same thing with BRONCO brand, spinning it off as a sub brand that means cool off road vehicles.
The Speed Racer Edition?
Should have been called the Ford Grand Mach-E.
It needed a new name. NO legacy Ford name fits, except maybe E-conoline. 😉
Why did door handles have to get ... so unnecessarily complicated? The aerodynamic drag is equivalent to carrying around ... a can of soda!
I'm thinking it was to eliminate the problems that Tesla has of freezing shut in cold weather
And I won’t even mention Tesla’s complicated design... and others... including the latest Range Rover.
@@kellingtonlink956 the new Range Rover looks excellent!
What’s complicated about it 🙃🙃?
Did you guys realize the "grill" is indented so it's just catching air it's not smooth front
The latest has the same electronic pop-out flush design. God it is a breathtaking redesign/update (even with the new flush handles - unnecessarily complicated, but still beautiful).
The biggest difference that Doug did not mention is that on MME one is still eligible for a USD 10K rebate, for a Model Y it is a BIG No.
That is likely to change within 2 months though. Depending on how the new rules regarding made in the USA turn out, the (made in Mexico) Mach-E might even end up with lower incentives than the Tesla.
The GT may not be eligible for US tax credits if the proposed Congressional changes take place in 2022: they include a potential cap of $55k MSRP (or even less; some have suggested $40k) for tax credits. And as of now, it's $7500 credit, not $10k credit, anyway.
The other thing that has been noticed at some Ford Dealerships is that they added 20k over MSRP I can only imagine they are trying to put customers off or trying to make money due to lack of maintenance being needed.
@@cbatiau2528 You are forgetting the credit offered by different States.
@@prashantkompella5372 only a few states offer rebates, and some of those are pretty restrictive... Massachusetts is now capped at $40k or $50k MSRP...
I like buttons. not a single do-everything touch pad.
Boomer mentality
@@TESLAenjoyer not really, it's just easier to hit a button which is always in same place. But we get it, it's cheaper to have a screen, and for some size of that screen is now most important thing while buying a car.
@@TESLAenjoyer that’s not boomer mentality. Having respect for analog controls such as actual switches/buttons/and ESPECIALLY gauges is a matter of preference and opinion. Your “Gen Z” cohort should REALLY consider having respect for your elders & even for yourselves. By far the softest generation I’ve ever seen or heard of. You guys have no concept of reality and the reality y’all want is purely strange.
@@FLINTmitten810 “Softest generation” ironic.
Good for you.
$60k is “relatively affordable”these days. LOL. I think Doug is $40k too high.
Electric cars are for yuppie folk with too much money and too little brain cells
That Model 3/Y screen is the single largest reason we opted to purchase a Model S. The Model S is more like a car than the 3/Y. Nice review Doug.
I am 100% sure that if people who buy an extra $50k to spend on a car they'd also buy a Model S over the 3/Y for the same reason.
I’m glad Doug decided to address the die hard Tesla fans. I like Tesla too but most people act is if they’re this perfect brand🤷🏽♂️
Tesla's are the apples equivalent in the car world 🙄
@@DrewHolli their software is good. But the build quality of Teslas simply is not there yet. Apple has quality from top to bottom.
@@DrewHolli are you sure about that? From my experience most apple users mind their own business. Most of toxic comments come from Android users, who can’t fathom someone preferring an iPhone, at least on twitter.
@@adam69_ as an Android user, I agree.
@@adam69_ android better
They should have called this SUV a Ford escape instead of a mustang nobody would hate it
THANK YOU
It's honestly a great car, they just couldn't have picked a worse name if they tried.
I'm not sure if I'd call it a car, I'm not sure if I'd call it an SUV.... All I know, is it's sure as heck not a Mustang
Isn't the GT much cheaper than the Y with the federal tax credit?
Only assuming you actually qualify for the full 7500 which most people wont.
Something Doug didn't mention- the Mach E still qualifies for a $7500 tax credit. Telsas do not which makes this significantly cheaper
I rather pay extra and have a Model Y over this garbage
Not all states. Plus look at Tesla's insane good resale value. And ford's depreciation rate. And last but not least. No Supercharging capabilities.
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 oh really? What states? I thought the $7500 was for any state but each OEM only gets a certain number of cars sold with the rebate. Tesla has gone over but Ford hasn't
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@@ismaelcarrillo3956 These are new, so there's no data on depreciation yet. Being a Ford does not mean it automatically tanks in value. Some Ford models have strong resale value, they are not all equal.
I could not agree with you more Doug on the Tesla fanboy's lack of understanding of overall vehicle dynamics and seeing 0 - 60 acceleration as the only benchmark!
Tesla DESTROY tracks as well it’s not just 0-60 more 3 OWNS pikes peak. And other Tesla have killed on Nuremberg ring
@@zandercerlong7238 ah I see the Tesla fanboys are here already
@@yungboicontigo9278 @Zander Cerlong You're both clueless, and it's amusing. lol
@@joriuschuwa its not about being a fanboy he literally made a complete false statement, teslas can go round a track extremely well.
@@zandercerlong7238 the Tesla that “owned” pikes peak was highly modded…
Better looking, and cheaper than every Tesla! When I see a Tesla on the road its like cool whatever, when I see a Mach-E I always have to point it out, just absolutely future looking!! So cool!!
Call me crazy but calling this a muscle car is quite the stretch imo
Right. No v8, not a muscle car
It's a car, so that's one checkbox. It's got a plenty of muscle, so that's another. Define musclecar for us. Do you mean rear wheel drive? Do you mean a coupe? Do you mean 2 seater?
I'd argue that a "classic American muscle car" is a specific type of vehicle: RWD, live axles, all the torque and not much horsepower, can't turn for shit etc. But that "musclecar" alone is just a powerful vehicle, I've seen the M3 referred to as a muscle car. I've seen the Model 3 repeatedly called the greatest muscle car every made.
@@Kevin-hp5fk if a car doesn't have rumbling engine and muscular look, it's not a muscle car. Tesla is gae.
@@Kevin-hp5fk 2 doors, can be coupe, targe or convertible, rwd and V8. The live rear axle, cant turn and no hp can be argued. Who tf wants to drive a car that drives like shit
@@Kevin-hp5fk that's one of the problems with the word "muscle car" it makes no sense in reality and it almost seems to be more related to body style and afiliation to something related to a muscle car (i didnt express myself like i would want, but it's the closest i can get) rather than some actual specific stuff. From what i heard around, aparently BMW's dont count because they are too "luxury centric". Either way the problem is that this thing is an SUV, and i dont think that it fits within the pattern of muscle cars. A non american muscle car would be the australian Holden UTE's aparently. I dont think anyone has an actual proper definition for muscle car tbh. Also it's no wonder why everyone is pissed about this thing being named mustang, it has no proper relation with what any mustang has been.
I'm still not understanding the hate on this car, if you're really that caught up over the name i'll be the one to tell you thats not a good enough reason lol.
What do you love and how would you like it wildly misrepresented for marketing purposes?
Maybe a corvette minivan?
Or perhaps a Wrangler sedan?
If not, may I interest you in a V12 Tesla that gets 6mpg?
It's not the car, it's branding it a Mustang.
@Funny good point
@Funny you spelled "Let's" wrong...
Mustang is more than a name, it's a legacy.
@@curtbalch2321 Branding it as a Mustang makes sense. The original Mustang was supposed to be a cheap, sporty car for the masses, and the Mach-E still fits that description.
Doug: "but...Tesla PEOPLE..." oooo yay here we go let me get my popcorn.
Wondering if you changed your mind on the self driving feature of the Mach e vs the y given the latest update where lane changing is now available
I am a car guy and I own a model three performance. I had several performance gas cars prior to this one. Your review was 100% honest, and the overwhelming majority of Tesla owners are pretentious Elon worshipers that are not car people. I would love a gauge cluster in my car. I think Tesla makes the absolute best daily driving car, but for a fun weekend car no thanks
What a great and honest comment.
I think that the Model S would be a fun weekend car, but no other Tesla would qualify...
@@cbatiau2528 If you can afford a second car just for weekends, why wouldn't you buy a real sportscar?
@@agnez3877 damn girl how thirsty are you?
Doug is proud of being a fairly tall adult
Almost comes across as if you're short, you're not even considered an 'adult' in his mind.
Oh, nice! Looks like Doug is reviewing the new WRX next.
it's an Outback
@@vladvulcan he was joking.
@@vladvulcan The joke just flew over your head 😂😂
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Outback Wilderness Edition
Go for GTPE model. For just a few thousand dollars more you get 3.5 sec 0-60. Those 0.3 sec will change your life. 😂😂😂
Whatever else you can say about Tesla, they have forced all the other car companies to innovate. I doubt this car would exist in this form if it didn't have to compete with Tesla.
I'd be happier if this car did not exist at all. They turned the mustang into a crossover for fuck sake!
You forgot one MAJOR plus for the Mach-E, you can get it serviced without having to travel out of town to do it. I think that's a big selling point here because one of the main reasons I havent bought a Tesla is the closest "dealership" or service center is 3 hours away from me.
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Don’t they send techs to your house when they don’t have a local repair centre?
You can book a Tesla Service Tech to go your house/work. You can thank the dealership unions for Teslas not being allowed to sell in all states.
@@DoughnutsInspace I agree and I don't blame Tesla for the lack of infrastructure. Regardless of who is at fault though, it's still an issue. As far as sending techs to you, well I haven't heard great things about that process either. I'm not opposed to Tesla, I am a fan of Elon and of the tech that Tesla provides, I just think they come up short in this department.
@@xraycat82 Yes they do but the whole program doesn't exactly have great reviews from those who have had to use it. People like simplicity and for reasons (some out of Elon's control) this process is not simple. That's all I was trying to say. People are already nervous enough of about the switch to electric.
Cool car but doesnt deserve the name "mustang"
God these auto comment bots are out of control these days
A Mustang isn't a muscle car though. It's a pony car 😊
One thing you didn’t mention in your comparison: charging networks
I don’t know if you’ve had experience with the various charging networks but the Supercharging network is way ahead of everything else, especially terms of ease of use.
This is the second reason I went with the model y performance over this. First was not having to deal with dealerships trying to mark these up as well as other junk they try to pull.
True but 1) not really a factor for daily/weekend driving, which is 90% of 90% of drivers' use case for a car of this type; and 2) the charging network operators Ford has in its network have been closing the gap on Tesla pretty rapidly over the last year or two, and at least where I live (mid-Atlantic) the Ford network is entirely adequate. Throw in the fact that Tesla's excellent destination charger network can be used by other cars with a relatively inexpensive adapter and the difference, while real, has less impact on real-world practicality for most owners than Tesla fanbois would have one believe. If course this dependent on one's particular use case and the particulars of the networks where one lives, so YMMV (literally).
Ford plug and charge functionality thru its app has been pretty seamless in the months we've had our Mach-E. I've only used it three times (little enough to have a lot of the free kWhs they give you remaining) but each time it's been a completely seamless plug and charge experience for me. Again, I guess it depends on where you are. There's no doubt that the fact Tesla owns its network is an advantage in terms of their quality control but I personally have no complaints.
Absolutely. As an aspiring EV owner in the midwest, there is no other option other than tesla. REALLY want a Rivian R1t, but it's just not practical here.
The supercharging network only matters on roadtrips and every day the supercharger network on electrify america is built out more and more. Tesla’s biggest strength is the battery technology advantages rather than the superficial advantage of the “better built out charging network” which is being eroded every day. Don’t get me started in rhe build quality of an traditional car company with 20-30 years minimum in car production compared to Tesla who are still working out the small issues in auto production.
As always, a great video. I might just add on the pros/cons for Mustang v. Tesla, Ford is a car company making electric cars. Tesla is a technology company making electric cars. I think we have to acknowledge that Mustang is going to be better built, and as Doug indicated, service is going to have to be easier down the road with the Ford.
Except it's the opposite
Tesla is a technology company making lifestyle vehicles.
@@AP13P Tesla's are notoriously poorly built. The interior of a Model 3 is directly comparable with a Ford Fusion, and that's not saying much. It's honestly pretty sad when Ford's have better fit and finish than cars priced 3 times as much. Tesla's are cool from a novelty standpoint, but they're struggling horribly with fit and finish.
@@OhPhuckYou I purchased two model Y's, and both had perfect build qualities. I was ready to cancel my deliveries if I found anything, and boy did I check. You will need a better argument as things have improved a lot. You only see the negative, people don't talk about the positive as much. I've owned over 20 cars, and so far the Tesla's have needed zero maintenance. Can't say that for most other cars I've owned. Everything else is subjective so to each their own.
@@OhPhuckYou no they aren't, get out of 2018.
I love the branding attempt to hype it up by calling it a MUSTANG but come on this is the evolution of the Ford CMAX 😂😂😂
Yeah I kind of agree there, but the Ford C-Max never sold well and was basically a compliance vehicle. Ford was smart for naming this one "Mustang" from a marketing standpoint. Sales for these are showing that it paid off.
The c max was a better vehicle tho
It's actually a brilliant move. People need motivation to buy a new product. They wouldn't buy a new EV from Ford if it had a brand new name with no history.
@Paul S I see what you mean with Dodge (although both the Charger and Challenger are the best selling models in their tiny segments, which is still pretty impressive on its own since they still sell in fairly large retail numbers and not just mostly fleet, and also given their old age as you mentioned)... but the Edge and Ecosport are the only mediocre/poor-selling models that Ford sells now. They pretty much own the fleet/commercial market with the Transit variants, and virtually every other SUV/CUV they sell now has either been a sales success (Explorer, Escape) or sales hit (Maverick, Bronco/Sport, Mach-E) in recent years. The Expedition is still mid-pack sales-wise and the Ford GT supercar not included. I will say that it's pretty pathetic that Ford bowed out of the sedan market entirely though, as if admitting defeat when Toyota and Honda can still confidently move hefty amounts of Camry's and Accords annually without resorting to many fleet sales.
Love the Mach-E and will consider it to replace my Highlander Hybrid.
Still, not a Mustang.
-GT500 owner
In my opinion it doesn't make sense to call Mustang an electric... it's an offense!
Not offensive if its the SN550 Cobra Jet Electric.
Why the first mustang wasn’t even a v8.
@@bert1981 it wasn't powered by D cells either...... still combustion.
@@draxxsklounst6595 that true it was old fashioned primitive technology, it’s nice to see they are catching up
Honestly EV SUV's are a strange thing.
Their shape is less aerodynamic and heavier, which eats range potential.
but people love SUVs so market had no choice
Gotta start somewhere, the demand is endless for SUVs, if EVs want staying power, gotta tackle that sector.
Doug is about to cause some violence with that title
Tesla’s EPA range numbers are overly optimistic. Ford’s range numbers are more realistic. In reality the model Y performance and the Mach e GT get about the same real-world range. Doug should be comparing real-world ranges. Doing anything else risks creating unrealistic expectations or doing some manufacturers a disservice.
Doug, It would be very helpful if you did a side by side real world test of these two vehicles - Mach e GT and Model Y performance. Basing your comparison on the manufacturers specs is a starting point but most of us would really like to know what these vehicles are do in the real world. Especially in this case, when it is pretty well known that Tesla tends to be very optimistic in its numbers, and Ford has decided it is better to understate the capability. (They learned from some previous experiences.)
Doug's hand just wiped that yellow bird shit off the rear door.
😂😂😂😂
Doesn’t the GT performance also come with magnaride suspension and more aggressive seats?
Yes
I like what Doug's doing with his hands when he say caaars and bids
There's nothing muscle about that Doug. Put the crack pipe down.. SMH
Beautifully sculpted...looks way way better than tesla's offerings..AWESOME
I agree, Teslas look like eggs
I hate that ford called this Crossover SUV a Mustang. It's a good vehicle but it ain't a Mustang. Call it something else, Ford!
I'm a little bit surprised you don't mention the Supercharger network as a key feature of Teslas over the competition. Is that not the case anymore in the US??
As a mustang fan, I'd rather buy a Cayenne than this crap.
I don’t like this car but I like Doug’s reviews
No car enthusiast likes this car
@@HighSockDavid true
@zhazogol speed doesn’t matter another car will be made that is faster
The missing dash screen on the 3 and Y Tesla's definitely feels weird.
Eh, you get used to it after a few days. I’d definitely love one, that being said, but it’s not a huge issue in the grand scheme of things
2019 Doug loves how subtle the 2003 Audi RS6s exterior styling is. 2021 Doug thinks the Mustang Mach E GTs exterior styling is to subtle. Bro...bro....make up your mind bro.
NOT A MUSTANG or a muscle car! Just another electric SUV with excellent performance. It doesn't even meet the criteria for a muscle car.
Focus on fleshy human muscles. Not metal muscles.
I love everything about it except that it's a mustang crossover. I hope Lincoln will make a performance and luxury oriented crossover. That will interest me alot more more.
The Mustang have better build quality than Tesla & after customer service.
early 2000s gm products had better build quality than new teslas lol
I agree, and yet clueless sheep keep driving Tesla's stock price higher
My sisters old Geo Metro's build quality was like a Rolls Royce compared to teslas
Panel gaps like a mofo
That suv is the transgender of the automotive industry, it identifies itself as something is not
Eww transphobia.
@@metagross1512 I was expecting more comments from the snowflake generation
My question is ... Why are cars so ugly nowadays? 😶
When Lucid is coming up?? We want to see review on that one:)
Lucid is top 100 ugliest cars of all time.
@@witness1013 still better looking than the boring plain model S.
@@witness1013 then im 1000% sure that adore Mercedes EQ shit….
@@neovenom9833 to YOU. Anyhow, when Lucid doesn't exist 36 months, it won't matter
@@witness1013 what *specifically* don’t you like about it?
This car is a disgrace to the Mustang name.
It looks like the product of a Ford Edge going back to a Mustang’s place after a full night of heavy drinking and questionable decisions.
I think it's one attractive car and much better than that marshmallow looking Tesla Model Y.
You want to talk about questionable after a late night of drinking there you have it.
Yet another example of the old auto sales axiom: “There is an ass for every seat”.
16:40 mach-e literally sounds like an electric V8
Sounds pretty good actually
I heard that whine too, although I wouldn’t say it’s v8 sounding, maybe stock v6.
Really.
I think the sound is pumped through the speakers.