Buying a used BMW 5 series F10/F11 - 2010-2017, Common Issues, Buying advice / guide

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  • @differentcarreview-dcr
    @differentcarreview-dcr  7 років тому +24

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    • @Sequel7
      @Sequel7 6 років тому

      i own this car, havent had any of those problems

    • @ahmedsaciid9295
      @ahmedsaciid9295 6 років тому

      different car review hi, I’ve got a problem with my Bmw f10 2012 model, basically every other day I have to refill up the water coolant tank and is something I never used to do before, so I went to the garage to get it checked and they said that there isn’t any Water leaking sign through the pipes or anything like that so they told me to just to change the water coolant tank, so I’ve changed the water coolant tank but bear in mind it wasent a brand new I bought it of another Bmw the same model as mine which means it was used, and I didn’t think that would cause any problems but still I’m still having the same problem, what would you recommend me? Do you think is best to go to Bmw dealer and buy a brand new water coolant tank?

    • @Conservator.
      @Conservator. 5 років тому

      Ahmed Saciid Hi,
      I’m just curious what the cause of the problem was. Would you share that with us?
      Tx in advance!
      I very much doubt that if you exchange any non-leaking part that that would have helpt. If there’s no leakage visible on the outside (did they use trace fluid?) than it must have leaked on the inside 😬. But you should have noticed that I think.

    • @stojanstojke3626
      @stojanstojke3626 4 роки тому

      BMW 525d has 6cylinders n57d30a motor f10 2010 Just saying and it runs like New still :)

    • @ultra_ek
      @ultra_ek 4 роки тому

      any opinion on the 535i GT models? Would they be closer to the 5 in terms of reliability or the 7 series (F01) as it shares the same platform? thx

  • @dawoodkashif4482
    @dawoodkashif4482 6 років тому +504

    I can’t believe that this car is almost 9 years old! Still so beautiful!

    • @abdullahhamadeh
      @abdullahhamadeh 5 років тому +57

      looks better than newer models tbh

    • @InLovee
      @InLovee 5 років тому +7

      Currently have a2010 march 525d 3.0 and cant complain at all

    •  5 років тому +1

      Really it does

    • @InLovee
      @InLovee 5 років тому

      Timing chain +parts its about 1400£

    • @lehoo6798
      @lehoo6798 4 роки тому

      @@InLovee in Bmw service?

  • @morphedrenegade
    @morphedrenegade 7 років тому +210

    Finally I review worth watching. Pros and cons is what I was after. The issues mentioned will greatly help when I purchase 2011 onwards 535D sport.

    • @iysisrose
      @iysisrose 7 років тому +3

      Me too, Did U get it yet ?, I might get a 2011 this week.

    • @morphedrenegade
      @morphedrenegade 7 років тому +6

      IYSISNASIR
      not yet still searching I particularly want 2012 535D black in n out sports seats paddle shifts wide sat nav xenon vision package varibale damper control Msport basically fully loaded. average price is £19k+ for 2012 under 80k miles FSH. fingers crossed.

    • @iysisrose
      @iysisrose 7 років тому +3

      NIce... Im looking at the 435i Grand Coup 2015. Choices...

    • @AlastorTheNPDemon
      @AlastorTheNPDemon 7 років тому +1

      Pros and Cons is the only way to go as far as reviews go. Add loaded language and facts become opinions.

    • @SagaAcademica
      @SagaAcademica 7 років тому +3

      He told basics, you would find out even more if you just sign up with local bmw forum.

  • @keithmhlanga9786
    @keithmhlanga9786 5 років тому +67

    Spot on, I have a friend who is a BMW technician and he once gave me almost all the information/details mentioned in this video.

    • @Alex-jp3ek
      @Alex-jp3ek 3 роки тому

      So does the 528i also have air suspension? Because I’m indecisive on either this bmw or a E350 sport Benz. What’s your thoughts ?

    • @fireblade8905
      @fireblade8905 3 роки тому

      @@Alex-jp3ek what did you get?

    • @Alex-jp3ek
      @Alex-jp3ek 3 роки тому

      @@fireblade8905 I ended up getting the E350 Benz
      I own a C280 for 4+ years they never steered me wrong (Benz’s) 🤷🏻‍♂️👍🏽

  • @ssucharith
    @ssucharith 4 роки тому +34

    Each time I buy a car you’re the only video I watch.

  • @Bamsebrakar2011
    @Bamsebrakar2011 2 роки тому +39

    I was very pleased with my own 2011 520d Touring, which I had from 2013-2021. It had the sport automatic, the fantastic comfort seats and adaptive drive. Over my ownership, the main issues were broken front springs (a real hassle to replace due) and rear air springs (easy to replace). I went through a couple of sets of brake discs and pads front and rear, which is normal wear. I had to replace some electrical connectors to the electric handbrake actuator (which was because I removed it wrongly), but that was a small job. I also experienced water seeping in through the rear door inner linings (glue dries up), which apparently happens to a lot of these cars. But all in all, I had a lot of good motoring from this car, which did not once let me down over the course of nearly 8 years. And somewhat surprisingly, I found it relatively easy to work on it myself.

    • @JohnnyWZ
      @JohnnyWZ Рік тому

      Hi bro,can you please tell me approximately yearly how much will maintenance cost to have this car? I can afford max 3k€ but don't know will be enough. Also i have in plan 530d.

    • @mmmm-lz2fr
      @mmmm-lz2fr 8 місяців тому

      They have oil consumption?

  • @davidcox8838
    @davidcox8838 4 роки тому +14

    My F10 is nine years old and I love it! Still fast and comfortable. I've looked at newer cars but there is nothing better in my price range.

    • @damiendonaghy1638
      @damiendonaghy1638 4 роки тому +3

      I just bought a 2011 520d with 65000 for £7895 i sooooo love this car egr valve went but the dealer sorted it under warranty

  • @smiIingman
    @smiIingman 2 місяці тому +4

    With how many common and *expensive* faults the 5 series has, it's probably not a bad idea to look at one with more miles/km on it with a rich service history with most common faults already fixed rather than getting a low miler and then paying thousands to fix the upcoming problems.

  • @4syth
    @4syth 5 років тому +47

    I love my E39, I wouldn’t have an E60, but I could definitely see myself in a F10 535i, 550i or M5.

    • @fernee909
      @fernee909 4 роки тому

      4syth I have a 2011 550i . Great car . Not a daily commuter it’s a v8 so just weekends

    • @andre5282
      @andre5282 3 роки тому

      @@fernee909 hows the maintenance? any major issues?

    • @fernee909
      @fernee909 3 роки тому

      @@andre5282 had head gasket and coolant hose replaced . And as preventive measure was to get the valve stem sealed. It’s something the f10 550i is known for .

    • @andre5282
      @andre5282 3 роки тому

      fernee909 ah okay I just bought one 73k miles

    • @Belij19
      @Belij19 3 роки тому

      I had e61 and No, don't buy if you want to save some money, because it is a money pit.

  • @nicholaswood3063
    @nicholaswood3063 5 років тому +13

    Just bought one. 3 years old, under 20k miles. Wonderful car

  • @3142ish
    @3142ish 4 роки тому +13

    Nice review and very accurate. I have a 5 year old F11 with 90k miles on it. It’s a brilliant car, but multimedia system crashes every few hours when it’s cold, and I have had to replace the air suspension bags (the latter I did myself with Arnott replacements for £300). Apart from that I’ve had a coolant leak (£100 fix from an independent). Changed to normal tyres as run flats are rubbish. Apart from that I love it, very comfortable, quiet and even my 520d has some grunt left when fully loaded with adults, luggage and a bike rack. Just don’t assume that you have to get it serviced by BMW, as they are ridiculously expensive, and will always in my experience, try to charge you to replace half worn parts early- seriously oil, filters and brakes are an easy job at home, and use an independent for nearly everything else!

    • @cgm7454
      @cgm7454 3 роки тому

      Has the upkeep been expensive

  • @adamredmond6255
    @adamredmond6255 6 років тому +5

    I purchased a 2014 535D about a year ago, and love this car...I have had no issues at all, it has all the packages except lane change. I changed the Tires because run flats ride bad. Car is in excellent shape, took it to the dealer and they said the same, just riding and having fun. I also purchased the extended warranty just in case. Zooming with a smile baby!

    • @ZgemboBiH
      @ZgemboBiH 3 роки тому +2

      do you still drive it? How much km has it? I had just tried one 525d, 2014 188000 km. It was good. But can not decide.

    • @adamredmond6255
      @adamredmond6255 3 роки тому +3

      @@ZgemboBiH Yes I still drive it, and still love driving it. Still haven't had any issues so I'm very pleased with it!

    • @3Ftheblessing
      @3Ftheblessing 2 роки тому

      What kind of tires did you end up buying?

    • @hurfdurfy8167
      @hurfdurfy8167 Рік тому +2

      @@adamredmond6255Any chance you're still driving this? I've been having a very difficult time deciding between the 535i or 535d. I really am considering swapping to diesel, but I'm really unsure.

    • @mihneacireasa4613
      @mihneacireasa4613 28 днів тому

      @@hurfdurfy8167 the n55 is a nice engine but the n57 is almost as powerful, a lot more torquey and you get much better mpg.

  • @robertogle233
    @robertogle233 7 років тому +10

    Excellent video and spot on with my impressions on the e39 (owned 5) and e60 (skipped). Just got a great F10 535i after passing on a couple 550i's due to the valve stem seal issue. So glad i did. This car is amazing!

  • @saimk4239
    @saimk4239 4 роки тому +5

    i had a 520d from Feb 2011, i had the car for 3 years and put 80000 km on it, without it causing me any problems, so i would recommend getting a well kept one

  • @jrichieander6832
    @jrichieander6832 4 роки тому +4

    I bought a 2011 528xi and I feel in love with it I can’t believe I got it under 10k very well cared for car no smoker and none of the unnecessary extras just enough to keep me comfortable great review

    • @ameykarade9432
      @ameykarade9432 3 роки тому

      I am looking for a similar model. What's the miles put on your car and has it given may troubles so far??

    • @jrichieander6832
      @jrichieander6832 3 роки тому

      @@ameykarade9432 it’s a great car had to replace the drive side cv joint after 10 months found the part brand new online for $140 another $125 for the install ...still not engine lights everything still working fine

    • @aran5647
      @aran5647 3 роки тому

      Have you had any timing chain issues so far?

    • @jrichieander6832
      @jrichieander6832 3 роки тому

      @@aran5647 not a single engine issue it’s the cv joints that’s one of the weakest points on the car

  • @alimian9985
    @alimian9985 4 роки тому +15

    Got my 2011 535i 3 months ago and LOVE IT!! Previous owners kept in it wonderful condition and past the torch to me. Some things i wanted to add was: I got some things programmed into my car (digital speedometer, close mirrors, trunk and windows with fob and much more) and now my trunk has problems closing in severe cold whether or when I leave my car for a couple days in cold weather. Besides that, its perfect!
    ALSO FOR NEW BMW OWNERS, DO NOT GO TO BMW FOR MAINTENANCE CHECKUPS, WORK OR REPAIRS! THEY WILL BLOW UR POCKETS!

  • @Rick12499
    @Rick12499 2 роки тому +6

    My 2016 535d is a monster......No problems or issues at the 65000 mile mark. Third diesel car I've owned and this one is a keeper. Great review!

    • @wolfxman69
      @wolfxman69 Рік тому +2

      I’m thinking of getting a 2014 BMW 535d with 80K for $17K…worth the investment?

    • @rimantas893
      @rimantas893 Рік тому +2

      @@wolfxman69 no. Engines is faulty, another one costs 5000 euros plus price for replacement. Big issues with crankshafts, timing chains, turbos, active steering, active suspension. 535d was biggest mistake in my life(car cost then 23k.). Now driving G30 2d b47, love it.

    • @rimantas893
      @rimantas893 Рік тому

      @@wolfxman69 But 80k KILOMETERS is okay, everything was started falling apart after 190k. kilometers and 220k. after big investements, engine just broke down (broken crankshaft).

  • @KNKLHEAD
    @KNKLHEAD 5 років тому +4

    I have a Black 2004 E60 525i. LOVE this car. Looks like new. I have 140,000 and getting the hard downshift. Going to spend $300 on Solenoid replacement and Mechatronic sleeve, hoping it fixes it. It rides as well as any new car I've driven. Looking at it in the parking lot -- it still outclasses most cars!

  • @Snupi2800
    @Snupi2800 7 років тому +5

    My 2011 F11 520d has really only had a technical problem with both rear suspension bellows. Both were changed under warranty, however. My only real disappointment is with paint blistering on the original 17 inch rims (236 style). They have been used as winter wheels and clearly cannot take road salt, even though they have been regularly washed and waxed. I am now changing them for original 327 style wheels.

  • @smithjohn2416
    @smithjohn2416 2 роки тому +6

    Started to look into these cars. I'm looking for a nice and comfortable used "German" cruiser. This one seems to fit the bill quite well, but there's a few engine options to choose from. Not sure which one I should really be looking at

    • @rayaany.4069
      @rayaany.4069 2 роки тому +2

      Get one after 2015. Ones before have a timing chain issue

    • @syamillim3332
      @syamillim3332 Рік тому +1

      ​@@rayaany.4069 Thanks for the advised

  • @m.j.6812
    @m.j.6812 5 років тому

    Bought yesterday, and will pick up on saturday. 528i 3.0 258hp. Test drive was amazing. And this car has a power!!!

  • @pappadappacarhauler757
    @pappadappacarhauler757 3 роки тому +1

    I bought a used f10 with 113,000 miles on it. Two owners. now its at 123,000 and so far only minor issues. turbo boost solenoid, oil pan gasket leak, rubber faring below windshield. Other than that normal oil change and spark plug change. And a gradual transmission fluid change. shes a beast with average sports cars. 535i m sport. I agree that this f10 is almost timeless and beautiful in appearance. I paid cash and bought a good warranty.

  • @hkc2003
    @hkc2003 5 років тому +13

    I’ve owned an early production (2010) model year 2011 535xi for nearly 8 years. The car has 99k miles and has been free of problems save one that I believe is common. The trunk release goes out on a lot of these cars leaving you w/o access. In my case the car was rear ended literally the day after failing and was repaired as a part of sheet metal repair. The run flat tires on the car are a disaster. They bend rims AND they are worthless when flat...I know. A friend sold these cars (BMW) for 7 years saying the tires were the most common complaint and that factory reps ignored concerns saying they were here to stay. All that said it has been a very comfortable and well performing car. Hope this helps if you’re considering one.

    • @nateharmes9900
      @nateharmes9900 5 років тому +3

      It does, thank you. People are too harsh on the reliability of these.

    • @Conservator.
      @Conservator. 5 років тому

      hkc2003
      What size tires are on the car?
      I have 17” on my E60. Drives excellent with run flats. However on normal tires at high speed (150km/h 90M/h) the becomes unstable. My tyrecenter confirmed that the car really needs run flats.

    • @joeokonski3679
      @joeokonski3679 2 роки тому

      I got a 2011 535xi with 49k miles on it, really rides great.. I’d like to see if regular tires are better riding than the run flat

  • @KRISTIANFIGUEROA123
    @KRISTIANFIGUEROA123 5 років тому +12

    My favorite car review channel. I actually feel like I learned something after every video. Not like these adhd kid videos out there

  • @tomweyts
    @tomweyts Рік тому +3

    thank you for this video! i'm looking into buying a 520D Touring with the Msport package from September/2011 so the timing chain should not be a problem , love the look of these 5 series models , my dad also drives an F10 530D , had it for 6 -7 years now without any issue , so pretty relaible cars

    • @agod5742
      @agod5742 Місяць тому

      Are they reliable bro?

  • @mustafamalik4122
    @mustafamalik4122 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the advice! Going to see a 2011 525d tomorrow so this information will help thanks👍🏽

  • @Thighbolster
    @Thighbolster 7 років тому +9

    I replaced the OEM continental contiprocontact run flat tires that came with my 528 F10 with BridgestonePOTENZA RE960AS POLE POSITION RFT and not only did the harsh ride quality of the continentals go away, but also the car's straight line traction and handling improved greatly. Try these bridgestone tire if you want to improve your ride quality while not sacrificing the convenience of having run flats on your car. I will not recommend the Bridgestone driveguard run flat tires however. I found that, while it provided improved ride comfort, it had little to no road feedback for the car.

    • @bilany2003
      @bilany2003 2 роки тому

      i have 530i F10 and its harsh i removed the runflat continental and kind of better but not that much

  • @chadhaire1711
    @chadhaire1711 7 років тому +192

    Bunch of double talk here. There is only ONE WAY to buy a BMW: You find one that just got off the 3 year or 4 year lease, buy it for half what it cost new, and make sure it has the factory extended warranty for 6 years or 100,000 miles. When the warranty starts to expire you get rid of it and get another.......FUN DRIVING, LOW COST, and while plenty of repair bills, BMW pays for them not you! Buying a German car without warranty is a bad idea....the lesson will be very costly..........end of story......

    • @lankale8765
      @lankale8765 6 років тому +1

      Quick q - do you buy the warranty from any dealerhsip? or simply just call BMW?

    • @DaSurfr
      @DaSurfr 6 років тому +47

      OR, you can learn to turn a wrench and save yourself up to 70% in the cost of ownership, which is what I do...

    • @fisephalnoxt
      @fisephalnoxt 6 років тому

      what model year?

    • @Agent77X
      @Agent77X 5 років тому +10

      Dante I. BMW are very hard to work because you have to strip away a lot of stuff to gain access to the gasket or hose to replace. Plus the way the fittings are position you need specialized tools to take them off. A normal valve gasket leak takes 2 hours on a Japanese brand, on the BMW N55 engine same job takes 9-12 hours to do!

    • @myownruin187
      @myownruin187 5 років тому

      Thank you..

  • @chevyboa8950
    @chevyboa8950 5 років тому +6

    I love my 2012 535i. She just hit 70,000 miles around New Year’s Day.

    • @fabiant.1140
      @fabiant.1140 3 роки тому

      Do you still have it?

    • @chevyboa8950
      @chevyboa8950 3 роки тому

      @@fabiant.1140 Totaled 😢

    • @fabiant.1140
      @fabiant.1140 3 роки тому

      @@chevyboa8950 oh shit...

    • @chevyboa8950
      @chevyboa8950 3 роки тому

      @@fabiant.1140 lol it’s crazy you asked. Shit was kinda recent too smh. About to get a 540i now though ✅

    • @fabiant.1140
      @fabiant.1140 3 роки тому

      @@chevyboa8950 sounds good. wish you good luck!

  • @wolfxman69
    @wolfxman69 Рік тому +1

    One of the best BMW reviews out there ! Thank you ! I was deciding between 2014 Mercedes Benz CLA 250 or 2014 BMW 535d about same price $17K with both at 80K miles…any suggestions?!

  • @lolitapitpong3826
    @lolitapitpong3826 Рік тому +1

    I bought a 2014 f10 520d with 150k miles with new timing chain. Had no issues after 10k miles

  • @vincomens
    @vincomens 3 роки тому +4

    Have a 2014 535d.m w/ sport package. Great looking car. Fuel efficient. Repairs are expensive. But drives solid. Wouldn’t have it any other way.

    • @jankoakovic3564
      @jankoakovic3564 9 місяців тому +1

      How many miles do you have and what problems did you have?

    • @CartanSubalgebra
      @CartanSubalgebra 6 місяців тому

      How is it going after 2 years? :)

    • @vincomens
      @vincomens 6 місяців тому +1

      Car is at 112k miles. I’ve had it since 25k miles (2017). Warranty expired at 60k miles. In the last 2 years I had to replace the motor mounts and EGR valve. About 2.5k USD in repairs. But otherwise, still running good for the time being.

  • @ElmerAlmonte
    @ElmerAlmonte 4 роки тому +1

    I bought a 535xi 2011 with 92,000 miles in August 2019. I replaced the water pump 3 months after I bought it. It runs like new now has 102,000 miles!

    • @danielmatuska795
      @danielmatuska795 4 роки тому

      Yes,I repalced water pump on my 535 ar about 100,000 miles. Also the washer reservoir.

  • @jameswan670
    @jameswan670 Рік тому +1

    Need to correct some information
    N52 : Vanos defect, Valvetronic defect
    N20 : Timing chain defect which manufactured from 2012~2015
    N47/57 : Timing chain defect which manufactured from 2011~2015

  • @TheDonod
    @TheDonod 3 роки тому +3

    Youre a good dude! Thank you for the video, just got my self a beautieful 520D 2012 And i don't think ive been as happy with a car for a while!

    • @ogvintage1587
      @ogvintage1587 3 роки тому

      Looking myself right some 5series 2012 or better... found this channel very informative... How do u like the car?

    • @TheDonod
      @TheDonod 3 роки тому

      @@ogvintage1587 It's amazing, tasman green and looks and sounds like a beast, as a 2.0l its not the most powerful out there but you dont have to be affraid of getting runover on highways. ITS A BEAST! :D

    • @NilsHedstrom
      @NilsHedstrom 2 роки тому

      Awesome! I'm hopefully gonna buy a 2012 520D soon enough, are you still happy with it? Any problems so far?:)

    • @TheDonod
      @TheDonod 2 роки тому +1

      @@NilsHedstrom For me it's been awesome. It's snowy here in finland atm so i just pretty much pot sportmode on and all of the other restrictions and have a ton of fun in the parkinlots. Just be careful what you buy and from whom. Some people like to sell shitty beat up cars. Merry christmas too! :)

    • @NilsHedstrom
      @NilsHedstrom 2 роки тому

      @@TheDonod Hey awesome, I'm from your neighbour Sweden!:D Yeah thanks for the tip, certainly will test drive it and see how it feels and looks before buying. Don't know lot about buying cars since it's my first own car but at least I have researched a lot abut this engine! Might even buy of a dealership with warranty if I find a decent deal.

  • @moehussein9338
    @moehussein9338 7 років тому +7

    E60 design is what???!! man E60 is one of the sexiest 5 series ever made , and own E60 and F10 designs .. interior on the f10 is unmatched... both great cars

    • @factos832
      @factos832 2 місяці тому

      While the E60 is an amazing sexy lady, the F10 is a wonderful gentleman (i agree unmatched interior from a W212 owner)

  • @mmarmrcz6770
    @mmarmrcz6770 7 років тому +29

    I have a 2011 550i (M sport) 6 speed manual. In silver, like in your video @ 6:18. With custom exhaust and a few other goodies, including Dinan stage 2. The engine was making a ticking sound and the BMW dealer said I needed a new engine, there was metal shavings in the oil pan. With these expensive cars (BMWs) get the warranty. I have a brand new engine, 4.4L shipped from Germany and installed by BMW dealer in NY. The warranty covered almost $18k for engine/parts and labor. I have just over 40,000 miles on the chassis/body, the car looks brand new. No other problems or complains. Over a thousand miles on the new engine now and she purrs like a lion. ...It's true (as per video), early models had fuel injector problems. No other problems or complains so far. The platinum warranty is a MUST! in my opinion and a peace of mind.

    • @fisephalnoxt
      @fisephalnoxt 7 років тому

      The warranty covered everything?

    • @OverSoft
      @OverSoft 7 років тому +4

      Yeah, the 50i engine (N63 engine) (especially before the LCI update) is a unreliable piece of crap, most early F10's already have a replacement engine and they still crap out on occasion. In the US they had a recall (but they didn't call it that, they called it the "customer care package" to avoid bad press), but in the rest of the world, you're basically screwed if anything goes wrong on the engine.
      If you're in the market for a 550i, definitely avoid all pre-2014 F10's and make sure it has an N63TU engine (which is the updated one). Otherwise, go for a 35i or an M5 (which second hand might cost only 20% more than the 50i).

    • @SagaAcademica
      @SagaAcademica 7 років тому

      x50i is the worst engine by far. In europe every car got new engine before 60k miles. Nice to hear you get all in warranty.

    • @mavricxx
      @mavricxx 7 років тому

      OverSoft -How can you check what engine the vehicle you're trying to but has at the dealer?

    • @OverSoft
      @OverSoft 7 років тому

      NutNbutSpeed If it's around 400hp, then it's the old one. If it has around 450hp, then it's the new one.

  • @jozefsnopek352
    @jozefsnopek352 4 роки тому +4

    I have 525xd - currently it has 241k km, so far, apart from maintenance, I had to change high pressure turbo, Kardan clutch, dust covers for the rear shock absorbers and both front homokinetic joints.
    I have no coolant or oil leaks, but one can hear a wushing sound from the timing chain at 1500 rpm - bmw service told me it is not a big deal.
    All and all it's a good car, but if you go for bi-turbo Borg Warner set-up - expect problems with the high-pressure turbo without warning.

    • @RidingWithGerdas
      @RidingWithGerdas 4 роки тому +1

      It's not bi it's twin turbos ;)

    • @jozefsnopek352
      @jozefsnopek352 4 роки тому

      @@RidingWithGerdas hmm 525d actually has two turbos, old 520d had one twinscroll turbo.

    • @RidingWithGerdas
      @RidingWithGerdas 4 роки тому +1

      @@jozefsnopek352 I know, you wrote your 525d had bi-turbo, but it's a twin turbo, sequential :) bi-turbo is parrarel turbos if I am not mistaken

    • @jozefsnopek352
      @jozefsnopek352 4 роки тому +1

      @@RidingWithGerdas Bi-turbo means just that there are 2 turbos, doesn't matter if they are sequential or not. Same as tri-turbo and quad-turbo. Twin-turbo=Bi-turbo...en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin-turbo

    • @RidingWithGerdas
      @RidingWithGerdas 4 роки тому +1

      @@jozefsnopek352 ok good, but it's still a twin turbo :D

  • @MrWoodii
    @MrWoodii 4 роки тому

    This video was a god send when I was looking at F10 5-Series'. I bought a 2013 535D. It's been great so far.

    • @differentcarreview-dcr
      @differentcarreview-dcr  4 роки тому +1

      make sure that your EGR cooler is/was replaced / checked by the dealer since the old part can cause in some cases fire! there is a recall for this

    • @MrWoodii
      @MrWoodii 2 роки тому

      @@differentcarreview-dcr Yes, it was. However BMW have just issued a second recall for the EGR valve cooler. (September 2022).

  • @muzammilhussain9667
    @muzammilhussain9667 7 років тому +17

    I recommend you also mention the torque figures of the engine, especially for the diesel engines which are known for their high torque output... Also the 530d in India has 258hp and 560Nm of torque @ 1500 rpm!....pulls like a train, pinning you back into the seat !
    Very informative video btw👍🏻

  • @BobMahal
    @BobMahal 5 років тому +2

    Not a detailed assessment. The weak spot of the F10 reliability are suspension components and its ability to warp brake discs pretty easily. Also there was an engine upgrade to the 530d which improved performance to 258 bhp and emissions/economy from the 2012 model year.

  • @withstyle7816
    @withstyle7816 6 років тому +4

    Great video I really like you change the commendations this is how it should be done and this is how the Gearbox manufacturer recommends it. At max 90k km. Its by far no lifetime oil as bmw tells. Also Differential oil should be changed every 100k

  • @dannywidjaja3643
    @dannywidjaja3643 7 років тому +3

    The automatic gearbox cannot be fixed , it only can be replaced with and it's very expensive . So Pay attention to it

  • @renepersson2446
    @renepersson2446 Рік тому +1

    What about the 528i 6cylinder with 258hp? 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Unplugged704
    @Unplugged704 2 роки тому +2

    Nice video!
    Looking at 2011 535i, one owner with 50K. All service done at BMW. Asking $18K.
    Good deal?

  • @NilsHedstrom
    @NilsHedstrom 3 роки тому

    Really into buying an 520d or i, thanks so much for this video! So much helpfull info so i now know exactly what to look for when if i buy one.

  • @veritasjustice7878
    @veritasjustice7878 5 років тому +2

    On the 535i with the N55 engine, check the oil filter housing gasket for leaks. It’s right above the serpentine belt and with cause it to disintegrate. When the belt breaks there’s a high likelihood of in being ingested by the engine which turns into a $22,000 USD repair estimate from the dealer...

  • @drleighmj
    @drleighmj 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the timing chain update. This killed my last 520d 2010 model. Might consider a 2016 model again.

    • @mirofin
      @mirofin 3 роки тому

      Just keep the 2010 and save up for a G30

  • @D4LM4R
    @D4LM4R 7 років тому +11

    thanks for the video. it's very useful

  • @rokomakarska
    @rokomakarska 4 роки тому +4

    Thanks for the video!
    I have a 2014 F11 520d and (like you mentioned) the air springs had to be changed after 16000 km. The flywheel on the clutch (manual gearbox) is also worn out. Everything else works fine.

    • @vojtik1234
      @vojtik1234 2 роки тому

      How much did the air springs change cost?

    • @rokomakarska
      @rokomakarska 2 роки тому

      @@vojtik1234 I paid 480 euros for the material.

    • @vojtik1234
      @vojtik1234 2 роки тому

      @@rokomakarska very good price! Thanks for the answer

  • @timothyjudsontaylorofficia9786
    @timothyjudsontaylorofficia9786 2 роки тому +2

    I bought a 2011 550i after much searching. Ive had it 6 years now, and still just LOVE the car. Doesnt drink excessive fluids, is decent on gas, killer infotainment, and ultimate cmfort in a 4 door cruiser. 2 doors is plenty now, so when I sell, probably grabbing a new m6 or Alfa Quad Giulia. Love the lines on both, and both cars are brutally fast. I have a Stelvio and its a blast to drive, but the bmw despite its advanced age is worlds better. 0-60 in 4.7 is plenty quick, and the top end comes soon!

  • @ilkermersinlioglu
    @ilkermersinlioglu 6 років тому +2

    I have 2011sept 520 diesel and i had to change the engine at 170Tkm because of many injectors were defect. There was no warning from board computer. I let check by BMW garage whether timing chain should be replaced, it costs 140€ and they gave me the car back and have not indicated the vibrations which was not normal. They are not so qualified. The truth is that Injectors should be tested every 100Tkm.

  • @simeonbairaktaris4092
    @simeonbairaktaris4092 4 роки тому +1

    me: *Buys used BMW 530d*
    *stumbles upon this video just 2 weeks after buying*
    "please don't say the car has too many issues, please"
    *watches video*
    Phew! Made the right choice to buy.
    Although, according to official instructions from BMW oil change happens every 30000 kms, and that's how the previous owner did them. Hope it didn't harm the engine too much, I'll definitely be doing them every 15000 kms.
    Plus the 530d is kind of the only estate car witch comes with a huge engine and a manual transmission.

    • @differentcarreview-dcr
      @differentcarreview-dcr  4 роки тому

      if your car is made between July 2012 and June 2015 then make sure your EGR cooler is replaced / checked since the old part can cause in some cases fire

    • @dior5189
      @dior5189 4 роки тому

      Have you had problems with your bmw so far ?

  • @MeesNaguMuiste
    @MeesNaguMuiste 3 роки тому +2

    F10 design is beautiful!

  • @kirwanjohn101
    @kirwanjohn101 6 років тому +2

    This is one of the most comprehensive and to the point reviews that I have heard in a long time, well done!

  • @jansz4452
    @jansz4452 3 роки тому +1

    A common issue is the m sport after 2014 cause the interior motion sensors are horrible which leads to the steering wheels being stolen.

  • @gomez4711
    @gomez4711 11 місяців тому

    1 thing I find missing is the details about the N20 engines faulty internal plastic timing chain guides, this is a major one (Class action lawsuit major) where the engines were blowing up around 76,000 to 79,000 miles when the plastic guides were giving way.

  • @timothygupton6661
    @timothygupton6661 4 роки тому +2

    Watch out for the oil filter housing gasket around 40k, and water pump every 60k (overheating indicators when temp is normal is your hint). If your A/C stops blowing cold, replace the blower motor and blower regulator. Also, leaks in rear window seals and headlights are a constant frustration. Don't be afraid to ditch the run-flat tires-you won't regret it! The ride is much smoother without them, cheaper too! Some mechanical inclination will go a long way in saving you money with this car. UA-cam videos are a HUGE help. Despite all this, I love my 2011 f10 535i M-Sport (MT6)!

  • @konstantinbaeter2736
    @konstantinbaeter2736 7 років тому +10

    530D has 245 or 258 hp depending on the year. not 225.
    greetz

    • @RidingWithGerdas
      @RidingWithGerdas 4 роки тому

      525d until 2011 was 3.0l d, maybe he meant that

  • @victorgrasscourt3382
    @victorgrasscourt3382 5 років тому +9

    I had a 2016 518d estate automatic on lease from a BMW dealer in Arras, France. I did not buy it when the lease ended as BMW simply wanted too much money for it. I specified comfort seats and they were not very comfortable. They lacked padding and the leather was hard. The standard seats are better The ride quality without Adaptive Suspension was harsh at slow speeds. I had 225/55 17 tyres, but lower profile tyres would make small bumps and road noise even more noticeable.
    I had problems with the coolant level dropping. This was an internal leak caused by the EGR valve and was subject to a worldwide recall. BMW France failed to notify me of this problem and recall, and I had to have the EGR valve replaced at Chandlers BMW at Hailsham, UK. It was also required that the EGR cooler be replaced as well as part of the recall. Once again BMW France failed to notify me of this recall. Problems with the EGR cooler could cause the car to catch fire. Good luck to the next owner!
    In the 90,000 kms I drove my car over three years I found it to be very fuel efficient, averaging between 40 to 48 miles per gallon on long distance driving. The 518d was very kind to tyres which lasted well and wore evenly. The 8 speed gearbox changed smoothly most of the time, but would get caught out at low speeds as it hesitated to select the right gear. On autoroutes and motorways the 5 series was tiring to drive as you constantly had to correct the steering to keep the car straight. The steering was dead and lifeless especially on long stretches of motorway, you couldn't relax for a moment in case the car drifted out of the lane.
    The main problem owning a BMW is the cost of servicing and repairs. €760 for the 2nd service is way too much. I knew if I kept my BMW I would have to put new front discs and pads on it, and maybe the rears too. The air suspension on the estate versions like mine will eventually require the air bags to be changed and that is around €900 each side at a French BMW dealer. Also I started to lose coolant again which was probably due to the new EGR valve now leaking.
    Be aware that the bonnet, front wings and doors are all made of aluminium on the F10/11 and are more vulnerable to denting plus harder to repair than steel
    I now own a Renault Talisman Initiale Paris edc 160 estate. It is loaded with features which would cost extra on a 5 series and it is more comfortable with abetter ride quality. In my opinion the Talisman is a superior car for the money.

    • @miitrekoistinen231
      @miitrekoistinen231 4 роки тому +5

      Victor Grasscourt Renault talisman is a piece of shit car imo.

  • @thegamer4646
    @thegamer4646 6 місяців тому +2

    E39 is the best. Second is F10

  • @kelvynchin1968
    @kelvynchin1968 4 роки тому +1

    YOur reivews are so fantastic and fun to watch!! For my next car, I'm buying a 2014 used car. Which car would YOU get? The Audi A6 C7 2.0 TFSI, the BMW F10 520 or the Merc e200 7 G tronic?? Pleae help... I don't know which car to buy!!!!

  • @EndritBs
    @EndritBs 4 місяці тому

    I have same car.2015 525d with 2.0 engine.
    It has average 6.4L/100 km at 600 km trip I did.
    It has 189.000 kms in clock.
    Car is brilliant.But this engine I have is known to have failure with timing chain.

  • @stephencannon3140
    @stephencannon3140 3 роки тому

    Still not a fan of no coolant temp gauge but good to see they brought.back the cup holders,

    • @berniecoles2337
      @berniecoles2337 3 роки тому

      It’s on the dash to the right of the Rev counter on my 530d f11.

  • @chinaem360
    @chinaem360 3 роки тому

    Bought my frist bmw here in china ( im from brazil ) it is an 520i 2015 with 22.000 km and Im happy with it

  • @danmoney9932
    @danmoney9932 Рік тому

    As some of these approach or are over 10 years old the headlights are a massive problem. They let water in and fail at 1000+ GBP each. The repair is often not worth it.

  • @computerapple4
    @computerapple4 7 років тому +11

    thanks dude. i always try vids like these.

  • @markrayes2973
    @markrayes2973 4 роки тому

    When i got my BMW 2011 353i in 2012 (preowned with 12k miles) everyone warned me maintenance would be expensive.... to be "fair" a majority of the. family don't touch their cars instead mechanics handle it.... but I've maintained my baby and it's running smoothly.
    (i mean ive done most of the work myself and oil was the major saver $40 to 50 bucks for the oil and filter DYI vs +$150 at the dealer (think average was $180

  • @red58fury
    @red58fury 7 років тому +5

    I got a 2011 535i and i love it. Although at 60,000 miles it blew the oil cooler gasket. Im having a specialized german Mechanic shop replace it. I love BMW's service department but its always expensive hahaha. This is my second bimmer. Before the 5 i had a 2007 z4. My z4 was a nightmare since the previous owner had beat on it and put 90,000 miles on it.

    • @Sequel7
      @Sequel7 7 років тому +1

      TheRed58Fury1 sell it get the 2013 f10 528 and you will have no issues

    • @funnyyousaythat1279
      @funnyyousaythat1279 6 років тому

      how is the car doing since?

    • @Mitrofanvlad
      @Mitrofanvlad 6 років тому

      90000 miles is like nothing in Germany

  • @kr0pp
    @kr0pp 4 роки тому +1

    Attention to those who have or plan to have F11 touring or F07 GT! When the rear quickly drops after shutting the car off your air suspension bags need replacement! Do this ASAP because otherwise you will put too much pressure on your air suspension compressor and it will wear prematurely! Air bag replacement = cheap, air compressor replacement = expensive. I think it cost me just 150 euros per piece + replacement.

  • @johnnyzarrrriiizony07L
    @johnnyzarrrriiizony07L 7 років тому +9

    You forgot one diesel engine wich is : 525d (N57 3.0d) 204PS

    • @1MrErling
      @1MrErling 5 років тому +1

      Yes indeed. I got the f10 with diesel engine 525d (N57 3.0d)
      Love the car!

    • @AStick3Pedals
      @AStick3Pedals 4 роки тому

      Yes, he did forget to mention that the 525d was a 6 cylinder the first 2 years of production then it got replaced by a high output 4 cylinder as mentioned.

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks 3 роки тому +1

    Great video. Keep up the good work.

  • @Scandicguy81
    @Scandicguy81 6 років тому

    I owned all three of them: E39 (525i), E61 (535xi) and I am about to get rid of my F11 (520xd) soon. The sexiest is the E61 imho. Though my heart goes to the E39, kind of. The F11 was a leasing car and I was fortunate to order it from the factory. However it was not the most reliable...
    I think I got the EGR valve changed 3 Times under 120.000 km. That surprised me.

  • @SagaAcademica
    @SagaAcademica 7 років тому +1

    No dude, the timing chain in diesels is not any better and you should still get it replaced before 200.000 km. In fact, I would do this on G30 as well, just to be sure.

  • @salvadorvaldivia149
    @salvadorvaldivia149 4 роки тому +1

    I've been wanting to buy a 2012 550i but not sure if I'm gonna make a smart choice? Is that car have lots of problems?

  • @benjaminkarlsson7973
    @benjaminkarlsson7973 3 роки тому

    best car reviews on youtube

  • @tcshy1903
    @tcshy1903 5 років тому +3

    Watching these videos has convinced me to sell mine.

  • @simonwelsh5097
    @simonwelsh5097 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for the informative video on the F10.. You have shown me many things to pay attention to when I buy my 2nd hand Toy.

  • @jeffwestendorf6781
    @jeffwestendorf6781 Рік тому

    Don't forget the vanos issues that were supposed to be fixed by dealer ( ours was not, so got to drop appr. $3500) also the terrible drive by wire accelerator lag. Very irritating. We have a 2011 528i. Wish we'd have kept the 03 530i!

  • @tonidd2145
    @tonidd2145 3 роки тому +1

    On the 528i there s also the 3 l with 254 hp

  • @koksaltskenneth
    @koksaltskenneth 3 роки тому +2

    I personally had terrible experiences with the x35i (n55) and wouldn't recommend anyone opting for it.

    • @mfgunit
      @mfgunit 3 роки тому

      what happen? N55 should be way more reliable compared to n54. Still gets common oil leaks for valve cover, and oil housing.

  • @rahulpokarna533
    @rahulpokarna533 3 роки тому +1

    A very good review sir .

  • @terrificspokesman7416
    @terrificspokesman7416 10 місяців тому

    All N47 still generally have timing chain issues even after 2011.

  • @przemysawgrabowski3458
    @przemysawgrabowski3458 7 років тому +2

    Thanks man, very useful movie!

  • @esclassa
    @esclassa 6 років тому

    thank you, but i did opposite first i bought it after just one driving and quick look around and then i start checking. Love the car.

    • @dex1nHo
      @dex1nHo 4 роки тому

      u still have it?

  • @gerryhp10000
    @gerryhp10000 4 роки тому

    It's weird you're saying E60 has the the worst design, I think it's the best of them all, sporty and aggressive! However I'll be buying 520d from 2016 in September... Can't wait 😁

  • @斯溫克
    @斯溫克 Рік тому

    Im looking to buy an F11 525xd 2016 lci with m look and m pack inside , loaded car but 191k km on the clock so timing chain will be a great price reducer alao the gearbox oil and defenetly gonna plug a obd scanner to check for codes , thanks gor the video ❤

  • @monkibonbonki8846
    @monkibonbonki8846 7 років тому +133

    E60 bad design..What ? This is one of the most beautiful sedans ever made, i dont get what people are complaining about.

    • @differentcarreview-dcr
      @differentcarreview-dcr  7 років тому +29

      well, I personally like the design of the E60, but it's from that "controversal BMW design era" - E60, E65, E63
      lots of people who like the design of the E39 or F10 don't like the design of the E60, so this is why I mentioned it

    • @1r0n_does_Evony
      @1r0n_does_Evony 7 років тому +1

      Simeon Davchev i agree with you, love the shape of my e61!

    • @vladimirpopa8576
      @vladimirpopa8576 7 років тому +13

      Simeon Davchev Your opinion! Mine is that, the e60 doesn't have nothing to do with BMW neither inside the car nor outside it. F10 in terms of design is perfect, being a true icon and symbol of what BMW stands for!

    • @maryblackman7285
      @maryblackman7285 7 років тому +4

      Monki Bonbonki I had one and now have an f10 ...I still drool over the E60 when I see it....!!!!! these ppl don't know what they speak of

    • @ctchrisf
      @ctchrisf 7 років тому +2

      bangle butt, enough said
      that said I have e61

  • @lennertdebacker9604
    @lennertdebacker9604 5 років тому +1

    The crankshaft pully broke of on my F11 at 263 000 KM (2011 model, N57 525d), is this a known issue?
    The key keeps on opening my doors even if I don't touch the doorhandle...
    When I'm on a cold start, sometimes the engine will randomly shake once in a while (let's say you would feel 5 engine-shakes in 1 minute), as soon as I gas up, there is no issue...

  • @Pete762
    @Pete762 7 років тому +2

    Very good and informative review! I subscribed

  • @Captain-pi9tg
    @Captain-pi9tg 5 років тому +3

    I had a 2012 530d M Sport from new and experienced the following issues:-
    EGR valve recall
    Drivetrain malfunction
    Worn ball joints after 40k miles
    Worn suspension arms after 50k miles
    Sold at 60k
    BMW’s are not built like they used to be

    • @anbuhacker
      @anbuhacker 5 років тому

      Did the warranty covers them all?

    • @Captain-pi9tg
      @Captain-pi9tg 5 років тому +2

      @@anbuhacker The warrnty only covered the EGR recall all the others were down to inherent BMW quality issues and I look after all of my cars I dread to think how other owners will have experienced who use and abuse their cars !

  • @justdrive7551
    @justdrive7551 4 роки тому

    Not enough specific issues related to BMW is mentioned. Any of numbered problems can relate to any of cars in market.

  • @doubleL_S
    @doubleL_S Рік тому

    Amazing cars I have a 520d. 535d next.

  • @fedism
    @fedism 5 років тому

    A true youtube friend you are.

  • @KarlFrommer
    @KarlFrommer 4 роки тому +1

    Hello have the 4 Zylinder petrol engines not the Timing chain problem like 3 series and x3 since its the same n20 motor? Thank you

    • @aran5647
      @aran5647 3 роки тому

      They do lol. I really don't know why he didn't mention it for the 520i and 528i

  • @franklyn315
    @franklyn315 6 років тому +1

    awesome video, I am planning on getting a 2014/15 5 series soon and this helped me out a lot.
    thanks

    • @hal8238
      @hal8238 5 років тому

      did u buy one?

  • @mvpmatty8295
    @mvpmatty8295 6 років тому +1

    My 2013 535xi has 66k miles. Mint condition, should I change the transmission fluid for mainteance? Planning on keeping it forever. Never been changed before? Anybody? Thanks!!!

    • @KNKLHEAD
      @KNKLHEAD 5 років тому

      Just one point, I'd at least check the fluid level in the transmission.

  • @user-de7rz9tm9d
    @user-de7rz9tm9d 3 роки тому

    Hi, why do you recommend buying a 5 series petrol car from March 2011 and up? Are there any particular problems with early model petrol cars ?

  • @Zurkuleens
    @Zurkuleens 4 роки тому +2

    You forgot to mention N20 early production engines. ;)

  • @andrewparker3563
    @andrewparker3563 Рік тому

    Really useful, thank you!