Imagine if they'd just waited a couple of months. The reception would've been so much better. They've now lost a bunch of people and hype they will never get back. Such a weird choice to release when they did.
Great update, let's hope the improvements continue at this level. If the game released in early access in this state things would have been a lot different I think, but better late than never
people complaining about graphics in a video game to judge it shouldnt be allowed to play it at all... things looking pretty over quality is a classic gen Z move :D
Im gonna be honest with ya: not really. Unless you already enjoyed how the units felt and how the overall gameplay felt you will still be disappointed like me. My issues with the game are that the units are boring and unimaginative and the designs of the races are as well.
We'll see if these changes help a lot but I think there are some more fundamental problems with their unit balance. Dogs were clearly doing too much damage and they cut that but I think their real problem is that their HP is also far too high for their cost and that hasn't been changed. Exos and Hornets are still going to be problems. They made splitting Brutes better but the Brutes themselves still can't fill any role properly and need some drastic change. They took a step in the right direction with Argents but they're still a relatively tanky cheap fast long-ranged unit that does solid damage even when out of energy and hits air, they have no real weaknesses and the Kri still aren't much of an alternative or complement to them, I think Argents are still going to be spammed. I think they're actually close to working well, though, if they balanced them more around being amazing at everything when they have energy but terrible when they run out and this meant they had to be stuck to power banks like glue and massing too many of them would overload your energy generation capacity, that'd be asymmetric and novel and it'd limit their spammability and make them compete against casters for energy later in the game. Giving them fast out-of-combat energy regeneration independent of the cascade field or base power level kind of ruins that though.
Idk, but there’s barely any content being made for this game. There’s a few hundred people playing it. It’s dead on twitch. Perusing the few stormgate UA-cam options comment sections looks like there’s more people hate watching than enjoying the game. It really feels doa by all accounts. I don’t see the company making it to a 1.0 release which for someone like me who finds the game….ok, kinda sends the whole experience into a defeated spiraling loop. These kind of games require investment, do I want to invest my time into a dead project? Idk if I do, it’s fickle but that’s how the mind works I suppose.
@@Frodonsake24 He said he didn't see it making it to a 1.0 based on the discourse surrounding game, lack of players, and the fact that he moderatley likes it. He also values his time and isn't willing to invest it into a game that looks dead on arrival. He never said he knows for a fact this game will never make it to 1.0. Are you a clown? Come on now.
don't invest your time in an unfinished product if you don't want to, the way they've gone about early access has been far from ideal but i really do think most interested people are just sitting back and waiting, i know i am, and you can too!
Think of it this way. You hire a famous and very skilled street painter to paint you an art work. They explain what it is they envision then get to work. A crowed of unartistic admirers flock around the painting. A short while into their work, you (who knows almost nothing of the process painting), tell the artist that their painting is a complete disaster. You are enraged that you payed good money for such a terrible painting. The crowed start to scoff at the painting and throw very disrespectful comments at the artist. The artist assures everyone that the painting is unfinished. But the doubtful crowed doesn’t listen. The artist finishes the first sketch, and picks a smaller paintbrush. They start to add texture and shading, and the crowed is suddenly surprised by how good it looks 🤦♂️
@@TheRyanshamowski I understand and I asked for, you know, arguments about that. But what was I thinking, it's internet. It's full of people who don't know what they're talking about and yet are yapping. Also I'm wondering why these hater keep coming back to any Stormgate video they see just. Gaming community, especially when it comes to competitive games, is just full of insecured, toxic, haters. Gamers, wow.
Just one request. Can you put title stormgate 0.1 on the thumnail of the new videos in this channel from today? It is kinda confusing when watching sg play video
im glad to see the game improving. I really want this to be the next big thing in the rts world. still it's a high bar when I tried it, it didn't feel like the next gen. ill try again on release for me the snappiness and the pathing need to be better than sc2. if I don't enjoy the moment to moment more than what's already out, why play
Armies of Exigo was a game released 20 years ago, at the time it wasn't received well because they said it was to similiar too Starcraft 1, a tired formula that was passé. Meanwhile we have Age of Empires:DE, just an iteration on Age of Empires 2 with better graphics, modernized control, pathfinding and faction traits that make sense and work inside a larger E-sport centric eco-system. It is just a quarter of a century worth of improvements baked into a game. Stormgate is depressingly bad, it is a lesser hybrid version of Warcraft 3 and Starcraft 2 and to succeed in this space you need.
Froast Giant should have some Artosis and Tasteless and other SC2 people as Consultants/ambassadors. That is your only chance. The fact that you didn't have any major names endorsing and consultant the build of this game makes no sense at all.
No one is gonna link their name with Stormgate, after FGS spend 40mil to create a game which is played by a handful of players. And their greedy monitisation
Graphics weren't much a problem. No RTS with prosper if it has too much dust or long lasting explosion animations. People want to see what is going on and take control. If we want eye candies we will go and watch movies or just in game cinematics on youtube. The 12 units at start are too much for new players. Do they need to build 6 buildings and keep 6 on the mine or ??? Too many variability, too much micro requirement for startup. It's like telling players go pro or go home. Having one side with unit ranks (gain xp) while others not, is very hard to balance, not to mention the ones without ranks always feel like they are having a handicap. The demons need better art direction and more diversity (most of them feel like a variety of the imp), the celestials feel half done, only the vanguard feel fully done. What is a spell, what an ability? What is dispellable, do all factions have a fair access to dispell/spell/ability? I love that they keep imroving, so I hope they will continue to listen to feedback, this game still has a great potential, they should keep it open for modding, at least add that option later if not imediatelly.
From a beginner prospective ,this game is currently not begginer friendly at all ,seems it's catered for players with actual experience with rts and not new players wanting to try rts
I'll tell you why this game is not suitable to do early access. This game was supposed to be an "improved" Blend of both Warcraft and StarCraft. StarCraft 2, despite its flaws managed to bring a ton of new blood into the franchise because they actually finish the game (campaign wise/ladder). Graphic look unique and the sound is awesome. Now imagine having an expectation like that and release inferior product in every possible way? The dissapointment is real. They should have stick to beta and release the game the way they intended, not doing janky early access bullshit.
when you kill kri they need to die die, like disappear and not block your path, i cant describe how frustrating it is to have a kri accidentally block your path and it gets worst by the games mediocre pathing. other than that im happy they slowly going the right direction
In 1 month... I feel like nothing much changed... I know I get hate for this but... Game is not ready, it's still unbaked cake, everything will take a LOT time to fix but this update gave us as I feel it, only few graphics few better ways And Amara changed but nothing other changed :(
barely any new content, yea there is a new coop hero but he's only playable up to lv5. you need the ultimate season pack or something like that to fully level him up. there is also some new graphical upgrades that i really like like amara for example. her new model design is WAY, WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY much more better than her previous look. the lighting also is very good, sadly there is only so much work to be done for this game. im going to wait until this game is more bloated with content, the campaign is more better, and more graphical upgrades are made to the game.
This era of gaming is ridiculous. I am not coming back from patch to patch to see if they have miraculously revived their game. Produce something worth playing, finish it THEN sell it. Imagine Baldur's Gate 3 if they dropped their first playable build 3 years in rather then going through the whole 6 years of development. Early access and modern game development strategies are a joke.
diffrent issues for diffrent games, bg3 was high quality and performance from first public session, just buggy and incomplete. So people saw that and liked it enough to stick around obviously. SG is.. not comparable. None cares. It needs a full marketing campaign all over again. So I agree with OP
The game looks a lot better. However, the Hero still looks crap. I think they should scrap the entire hero-thing if this is the best they come up with and focus on 1v1. as much as I love multiplayer and hero types, I would do a huge refund for those that bought it. The story has no base, it was created RTS first, story later.
Maybe later…but I still think the factions look so visually bland…even if it’s a tad more vibrant. Also the campaign and its writing. Because man it’s bad.
Frost Giant read all these comments... they are 90% all negative... you guys majorly fucked up. DO better. Stop taking donations if this is what you are going to deliver. The game isn't balanced. There are so many issues with game design and so much more. All the SC2 guys tried it for a few weeks and that was it. Good luck getting them to try it again.
Terran, protoss, zerg. Once again why not just play starcraft2? If you want something new. Just play in the custom tab. It literally has close to the same amount of players to stormgate rn
Saw, updates and went to check it out, sat in queue for five minutes. So basically dead game, which is sad, but it is deserved. The developers ignored initial feedback and told everyone they were wrong and only admitted that the consumers were right after they stopped showing up.
Let me turn this into an analogy. You hire a famous and very skilled street painter to paint you an art work. They explain what it is they envision then get to work. A crowed of unartistic admirers flock around the painting. A short while into their work, you (who knows almost nothing of the process painting), tell the artist that their painting is a complete disaster. You are enraged that you payed good money for such a terrible painting. The crowed start to scoff at the painting and throw very disrespectful comments at the artist. The artist assures everyone that the painting is unfinished. But the doubtful crowed doesn’t listen. The artist finishes the first sketch, and picks a smaller paintbrush. They start to add texture and shading, and the crowed is suddenly surprised by how good it looks 🤦♂️
Except paintings are done as they paint. If an artist makes a house which is part of a picture, it is already done and sold as is. A bad analogy. And even in this analogy, customer is a king. Artist's job is to appease tastes of his customer in which he had failed.
@@kwasfx Have You seen the video My friend? Pathfinding? Hotkey modifiers? Balance? Every opinion is respected, but if You are going to write from ignorance, You make yourself look ridiculous.
@@Richard-ln6ot Welcome changes right, but if we're being honest here, overall the gameplay is still pretty bad like he said The TTK is still too high, especially with lower resource gathering (+4 luminite), and doubled cost of early game units. Even Warcraft 3 has +10 gold with higher TTK And like Day9 said, the unit gameplay doesn't have exciting "spiky" moments that you'll even see in high TTK games like Warcraft 3. We still have units like the atlas that are genuinely very unfun to play The sound design is still very bad, the campaign is still abysmal, UI / tooltips are still bad, and the models are still uninspired (except for amara and maloc) With that said the terrain in this map is beautiful, but I don't see this game being fun to play for a few more updates.
@@Richard-ln6ot then why are there still less than 400 players after the patch? you know why? NO ONE CARES FOR A DEAD GAME. DEVS ASKING FOR SO MUCH MONEY WHEN THEY ARE DELIVERING A VERY BAD GAME!
The Celestial's design is awful. That race needs to be 100% deleted and try again. So bad. FG do better. You have 20+ Million dollars and this is what you give us?
sometimes you just need feedback. They were trying mobile/fortnite-ish style because it's "popular". Now they have some actual feedback and they are ready to change their artdirection, which is very promising. Also you can try to make your own game, just to see that 80% of your creative decisions also gonna be trash
@@mrsato7508 But because the game came out too raw, it received a lot of hate and criticism. Many people have experienced disappointment, and will have to prove that SG is a really good game. Was it worth it?
The copium about the "'Mara" redesign really makes me laugh. You replaced a 1/10 character with a 5/10 character, that also looks like a Fortnite / Overwatch character, when the real issue from the start was that she was not original or likeable in any way. They just copied Sc2, and I assume also Warcraft (but I've never played any of those game so idk). Like, the story writers tried to make everything as stereotypical and unoriginal as possible. Why not try something new? Why not try to do an inverse of the Kerrigan arc? It's just so tiring.
This patch shows this is not the case at all. It isn't even nearly too late for them to make a comeback. Also note, they've removed some of the ways they were gonna make money, like delaying campaign chapters to polish up the experience more, and removing warchest from the roadmap entirely. This means they're probably doing ok on funding.
@@finrodfel06 not too late? 400 to 500 players at max online for a multiplayer game? it is not too late? they have been digging their graves from the start by saying they will develop a SC2 WC3 successor worth playing for because they are X Blizz devs but what they are showing that they are not the part of the Good Old Blizz Devs.
this game is dead on arrival, similar to Concord, a generic game in the genre without offering anything substantially different than the millions of similar games _"Concord cost $400 million to make; originally refered to as “Future of PlayStation”"_ haha and this game was refered to as the future of RTS
If u comment it means that y have been following the Game for a few months. Therefore You should know the 3 vs 3. I would like to know in which other RTS has this been done?
@@Richard-ln6ot wow ya 3v3 is very new? hahaha ur joking right? they prio 3v3 on a 400 max player online multiplayer game HAHAHAHAHHAAHHA WHAT A JOKE DEVELOPERS THEY ARE FULL OF JOKERS saying they are X Blizz devs well we are now seeing how bad they are! WC3 and SC2 are famous you know why? because they have a great story to tell. even casual players who has 30 APM can enjoy the campaign and the story and be invested in the game. i did not like WC3 reforge but i still bought it just to play the campaign again and maybe in the next few years play it again because iam invested. i Paid for SC2 Campaigns because i was invested in it. i never played rank RTS before but i played most of them from AoE, AoE2, AoE3, AoE4, SC1 SC2, WC3. AoM. being invested into a game is very important especially if you need to spent a lot of time learn it but with what they are showing nah dude lets be real here they cant keep paying steam just to run this game on steam servers with how little the player base they will be bankrupt before this game see a full release.
@@likom9813 I played the same modes like You for many years, really maaaaany years. So the problem is your perspective and your fanaticism, is not ours. But My question is, if u don't like the game, and this is a channel of SG, why are u here my friend? Do u like torture? O your life is so miserable that you throw hate at a Game that is in EA and is indie?
@@Richard-ln6ot indie? do you even know who is backing this game ? tencent is backing this game up which is one of the greediest company there is. this game is not run by indie developers that is having a hard time because of no funding dude wake fcking up. iam here because this game and the devs of this game has such big mouths before the game even release to alpha but what is happening now? they cant even prov them self by having atleast a decent game
@@Richard-ln6ot hahaha indie? do you even know what is the meaning of indie? here let me show you: "An indie developer is a person who is working on its own projects without being backed by investors or venture capital" and how can this game be indie? when one of the greediest company in the world of gaming is backing this development. at least do some research before you talk about being indie because they are clearly not indie. Reason why iam here? because devs of this game has very big mouths when the game was not on alpha yet we are X blizz devs and we are making the successor to SC2. the delulu of these devs is through the roof. Stormgate is ASKING FANS for investment into Frost Giant Equity - Grubby watch this video so you will know that this game is not indie
I like You comment my friend. But i have a question and maybe You can answer me. If this channel is from SG and u don't like the Game. Why are You here? I never understood that logic.
This game is going nowhere. With all the censorship in game and in discord and less than 500 players a day it's a joke to think this is going to be anything more than a scam that hurts the RTS market.
you don't even know what a scam is bro chill out. This is version 0.1. So many developer DREAM of such visibility at this stage of their development. Games are not created out of magic, it requires a lot of time and work.
@@Frodonsake24 they have all the visibility but why are there only 400 players online? and it is pretty much a scam millions of dollars are lost every month to develop this game and what are we see? version 0.1 on almost 3 years of development? they already have so much feedback from the beta of the game but they did not fix anything before releasing to early access you know why? because they are out of money and they need more funding when they already said the game will be funded until release? and that is not a scam for you? the delulu is through the roof.
@@likom9813 this is not a scam. Understand what a scam is, seriously. It might be a failure (which we don't know yet) but a scam ? No. At no point were you scam. If you're too stupid not to understand what you were getting into it's not their fault. Try to use them if you think it's a scam, theyll be laughing at you. Now you clearly don't understand how complex development is, how this market works, but yet you have plenty of things to say. Now if you hate that game so much, what are you even doing here ? Also how do you know they ran out of money? Any source about your nonsense ? 3 years of dev, especially giving they started with very few people, is pretty normal. Dude you don't even understand what you're talking about. You don't.
This update has been great. So glad about them making sabers more viable, and the game looks great
sabers more viable? ☠️
@@somaloll hell yeah dude try them out, super fun
The lighting change is a dramatic improvement
This comment is funnier if you read it as sarcasm. As if the lighting was something that people were complaining about.
@@EricNapoli-z3dseems like they were. Alongside all the other stuff 😂
Insane updates.... Love it so much
Looks so much better
Imagine if they'd just waited a couple of months. The reception would've been so much better. They've now lost a bunch of people and hype they will never get back. Such a weird choice to release when they did.
People just don’t understand what Beta means 😒
@@charliepeterson1745 It means testing stuff. It doesn't mean "we're still working on core mechanics and lighting". That would be alpha.
@@charliepeterson1745 beta is a game that is ready.
I won't blame FG for expecting ppl to be smarter and not playing around the monke LCD.
Great update, let's hope the improvements continue at this level. If the game released in early access in this state things would have been a lot different I think, but better late than never
Looks a lot better might neeed to check it out again
nice to see more update
The visuals went from comically unacceptable to okay. However since this is on Unreal Engine, it has forced TAA which is essentially a blur filter.
You can turn AA off completely.
people complaining about graphics in a video game to judge it shouldnt be allowed to play it at all... things looking pretty over quality is a classic gen Z move :D
@iceweasel2199 who said i play it?
Stormgate was a great investiment on a good new RTS engine. Maybe someone will make a good game on it.
Anyone else getting motion sick by that weird camera movement smoothing?
It's trash. lol
Was ready to write off this game as a whole, but this patch does so much good that I'm hopeful again.
Give it a year or two. Right now it's literally unplayable.
Friends buffs is so good.
Finally, time to download.
It is really worth to get back to Stormgate!
I'll wait yet for another update, they are on the right track though
No and yes. No cuz its not enough but yes ti show the devs they get us back of they keep going
Im gonna be honest with ya: not really. Unless you already enjoyed how the units felt and how the overall gameplay felt you will still be disappointed like me. My issues with the game are that the units are boring and unimaginative and the designs of the races are as well.
We'll see if these changes help a lot but I think there are some more fundamental problems with their unit balance. Dogs were clearly doing too much damage and they cut that but I think their real problem is that their HP is also far too high for their cost and that hasn't been changed. Exos and Hornets are still going to be problems. They made splitting Brutes better but the Brutes themselves still can't fill any role properly and need some drastic change.
They took a step in the right direction with Argents but they're still a relatively tanky cheap fast long-ranged unit that does solid damage even when out of energy and hits air, they have no real weaknesses and the Kri still aren't much of an alternative or complement to them, I think Argents are still going to be spammed. I think they're actually close to working well, though, if they balanced them more around being amazing at everything when they have energy but terrible when they run out and this meant they had to be stuck to power banks like glue and massing too many of them would overload your energy generation capacity, that'd be asymmetric and novel and it'd limit their spammability and make them compete against casters for energy later in the game. Giving them fast out-of-combat energy regeneration independent of the cascade field or base power level kind of ruins that though.
People don't realize that balance, at this stage of game development, is not their main focus.
Idk, but there’s barely any content being made for this game. There’s a few hundred people playing it. It’s dead on twitch. Perusing the few stormgate UA-cam options comment sections looks like there’s more people hate watching than enjoying the game. It really feels doa by all accounts. I don’t see the company making it to a 1.0 release which for someone like me who finds the game….ok, kinda sends the whole experience into a defeated spiraling loop. These kind of games require investment, do I want to invest my time into a dead project? Idk if I do, it’s fickle but that’s how the mind works I suppose.
How could you know if they're gonna make it to 1.0. are you secretly part of FG ? Are you a director ? Come on now.
@@Frodonsake24 He said he didn't see it making it to a 1.0 based on the discourse surrounding game, lack of players, and the fact that he moderatley likes it. He also values his time and isn't willing to invest it into a game that looks dead on arrival. He never said he knows for a fact this game will never make it to 1.0. Are you a clown? Come on now.
don't invest your time in an unfinished product if you don't want to, the way they've gone about early access has been far from ideal but i really do think most interested people are just sitting back and waiting, i know i am, and you can too!
Think of it this way. You hire a famous and very skilled street painter to paint you an art work. They explain what it is they envision then get to work. A crowed of unartistic admirers flock around the painting. A short while into their work, you (who knows almost nothing of the process painting), tell the artist that their painting is a complete disaster. You are enraged that you payed good money for such a terrible painting. The crowed start to scoff at the painting and throw very disrespectful comments at the artist. The artist assures everyone that the painting is unfinished. But the doubtful crowed doesn’t listen. The artist finishes the first sketch, and picks a smaller paintbrush. They start to add texture and shading, and the crowed is suddenly surprised by how good it looks 🤦♂️
@@TheRyanshamowski I understand and I asked for, you know, arguments about that. But what was I thinking, it's internet. It's full of people who don't know what they're talking about and yet are yapping. Also I'm wondering why these hater keep coming back to any Stormgate video they see just. Gaming community, especially when it comes to competitive games, is just full of insecured, toxic, haters. Gamers, wow.
Just one request. Can you put title stormgate 0.1 on the thumnail of the new videos in this channel from today? It is kinda confusing when watching sg play video
best sg channel
Great video
time to kill is just way too long for me to enjoy the game right now, hope it changes and I'd give it another go!
*YAAAAAAAAWN*
im glad to see the game improving. I really want this to be the next big thing in the rts world. still it's a high bar when I tried it, it didn't feel like the next gen. ill try again on release for me the snappiness and the pathing need to be better than sc2. if I don't enjoy the moment to moment more than what's already out, why play
More like this update🙏
Best update ever. It is sad that I have to used lower setting in order to play the game.
Armies of Exigo was a game released 20 years ago, at the time it wasn't received well because they said it was to similiar too Starcraft 1, a tired formula that was passé.
Meanwhile we have Age of Empires:DE, just an iteration on Age of Empires 2 with better graphics, modernized control, pathfinding and faction traits that make sense and work inside a larger E-sport centric eco-system. It is just a quarter of a century worth of improvements baked into a game.
Stormgate is depressingly bad, it is a lesser hybrid version of Warcraft 3 and Starcraft 2 and to succeed in this space you need.
it does looks better
update makes fps issues way worse.
good changes, unit abuse/neglect looks like its fixed
Yes but why does the background screen on the menu look bad?
Stormgate is canon in StarCraft its just another cycle
I don't imagine a channel named 'Stormgate Central' is going to be unbiased in a video titled "Is it worth a revisit?"
Froast Giant should have some Artosis and Tasteless and other SC2 people as Consultants/ambassadors. That is your only chance. The fact that you didn't have any major names endorsing and consultant the build of this game makes no sense at all.
No one is gonna link their name with Stormgate, after FGS spend 40mil to create a game which is played by a handful of players. And their greedy monitisation
Looks better, obvious good work on the patch. But nobody cares or players.
Graphics weren't much a problem.
No RTS with prosper if it has too much dust or long lasting explosion animations.
People want to see what is going on and take control.
If we want eye candies we will go and watch movies or just in game cinematics on youtube.
The 12 units at start are too much for new players. Do they need to build 6 buildings and keep 6 on the mine or ??? Too many variability, too much micro requirement for startup. It's like telling players go pro or go home.
Having one side with unit ranks (gain xp) while others not, is very hard to balance, not to mention the ones without ranks always feel like they are having a handicap.
The demons need better art direction and more diversity (most of them feel like a variety of the imp), the celestials feel half done, only the vanguard feel fully done.
What is a spell, what an ability? What is dispellable, do all factions have a fair access to dispell/spell/ability?
I love that they keep imroving, so I hope they will continue to listen to feedback, this game still has a great potential, they should keep it open for modding, at least add that option later if not imediatelly.
From a beginner prospective ,this game is currently not begginer friendly at all ,seems it's catered for players with actual experience with rts and not new players wanting to try rts
I'll tell you why this game is not suitable to do early access. This game was supposed to be an "improved" Blend of both Warcraft and StarCraft. StarCraft 2, despite its flaws managed to bring a ton of new blood into the franchise because they actually finish the game (campaign wise/ladder). Graphic look unique and the sound is awesome. Now imagine having an expectation like that and release inferior product in every possible way? The dissapointment is real. They should have stick to beta and release the game the way they intended, not doing janky early access bullshit.
when you kill kri they need to die die, like disappear and not block your path, i cant describe how frustrating it is to have a kri accidentally block your path and it gets worst by the games mediocre pathing. other than that im happy they slowly going the right direction
In 1 month... I feel like nothing much changed...
I know I get hate for this but... Game is not ready, it's still unbaked cake, everything will take a LOT time to fix but this update gave us as I feel it, only few graphics few better ways
And Amara changed but nothing other changed :(
I tried to like it. But I don't think I ever will
barely any new content, yea there is a new coop hero but he's only playable up to lv5. you need the ultimate season pack or something like that to fully level him up.
there is also some new graphical upgrades that i really like like amara for example. her new model design is WAY, WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY much more better than her previous look. the lighting also is very good, sadly there is only so much work to be done for this game.
im going to wait until this game is more bloated with content, the campaign is more better, and more graphical upgrades are made to the game.
no exo nerfs, why do they want a dead ladder
This era of gaming is ridiculous. I am not coming back from patch to patch to see if they have miraculously revived their game. Produce something worth playing, finish it THEN sell it. Imagine Baldur's Gate 3 if they dropped their first playable build 3 years in rather then going through the whole 6 years of development. Early access and modern game development strategies are a joke.
BG3 did have early access? Supposedly it had a lot of bugs, though the reception overall was pretty positive.
Baldur's Gate 3 did exactly that, they released a buggy early access, then made the game good. What a terrible example to use, lmao.
FG dont have to earn money. so this is what happens.
BG3 did similarly. You played yourself, doomer.
diffrent issues for diffrent games, bg3 was high quality and performance from first public session, just buggy and incomplete. So people saw that and liked it enough to stick around obviously. SG is.. not comparable. None cares. It needs a full marketing campaign all over again. So I agree with OP
DOA.
The game looks a lot better. However, the Hero still looks crap. I think they should scrap the entire hero-thing if this is the best they come up with and focus on 1v1. as much as I love multiplayer and hero types, I would do a huge refund for those that bought it. The story has no base, it was created RTS first, story later.
Maybe later…but I still think the factions look so visually bland…even if it’s a tad more vibrant. Also the campaign and its writing. Because man it’s bad.
Frost Giant read all these comments... they are 90% all negative... you guys majorly fucked up. DO better. Stop taking donations if this is what you are going to deliver. The game isn't balanced. There are so many issues with game design and so much more. All the SC2 guys tried it for a few weeks and that was it. Good luck getting them to try it again.
hahaha they need it. search for their backers and you will understand all the idiotic microtransaction and a 20 to 60 USD DLCs.
Terran, protoss, zerg. Once again why not just play starcraft2? If you want something new. Just play in the custom tab. It literally has close to the same amount of players to stormgate rn
Short answer - no. Long answer - devs are so terrible, game has no chance.
And now Infernal is way OP... FG seems to have a hard time making a good game. Its cringe.
Saw, updates and went to check it out, sat in queue for five minutes. So basically dead game, which is sad, but it is deserved. The developers ignored initial feedback and told everyone they were wrong and only admitted that the consumers were right after they stopped showing up.
the delulu of these Devs just because they are " X BLIZZ DEVS" more like DEVS that created Overwatch 2 and WC3 reforge.
Nope
Runs bad for a f2p which have to be played by ten thousands to make it maybe profitable.
Where the fuck did the nerf the dmg of the celestials AOE storm ability ?!?!?!?! a cooldown it will still be like the most op shit inagme
This is the state they should released the EA at
Let me turn this into an analogy. You hire a famous and very skilled street painter to paint you an art work. They explain what it is they envision then get to work. A crowed of unartistic admirers flock around the painting. A short while into their work, you (who knows almost nothing of the process painting), tell the artist that their painting is a complete disaster. You are enraged that you payed good money for such a terrible painting. The crowed start to scoff at the painting and throw very disrespectful comments at the artist. The artist assures everyone that the painting is unfinished. But the doubtful crowed doesn’t listen. The artist finishes the first sketch, and picks a smaller paintbrush. They start to add texture and shading, and the crowed is suddenly surprised by how good it looks 🤦♂️
Ikr, ppl shit on the game then act shocked that things are unfolding as they should.
Except paintings are done as they paint. If an artist makes a house which is part of a picture, it is already done and sold as is. A bad analogy.
And even in this analogy, customer is a king. Artist's job is to appease tastes of his customer in which he had failed.
New textures don’t fix bad gameplay. Next patch maybe.. 😑
@@kwasfx Have You seen the video My friend? Pathfinding? Hotkey modifiers? Balance? Every opinion is respected, but if You are going to write from ignorance, You make yourself look ridiculous.
@@Richard-ln6ot Welcome changes right, but if we're being honest here, overall the gameplay is still pretty bad like he said
The TTK is still too high, especially with lower resource gathering (+4 luminite), and doubled cost of early game units. Even Warcraft 3 has +10 gold with higher TTK
And like Day9 said, the unit gameplay doesn't have exciting "spiky" moments that you'll even see in high TTK games like Warcraft 3. We still have units like the atlas that are genuinely very unfun to play
The sound design is still very bad, the campaign is still abysmal, UI / tooltips are still bad, and the models are still uninspired (except for amara and maloc)
With that said the terrain in this map is beautiful, but I don't see this game being fun to play for a few more updates.
@@Richard-ln6othot keys are changeable only by columns. Can’t change individual command card. Pathing is ass
@@Richard-ln6ot then why are there still less than 400 players after the patch? you know why? NO ONE CARES FOR A DEAD GAME. DEVS ASKING FOR SO MUCH MONEY WHEN THEY ARE DELIVERING A VERY BAD GAME!
The Celestial's design is awful. That race needs to be 100% deleted and try again. So bad. FG do better. You have 20+ Million dollars and this is what you give us?
It's fine.
more like 40+ mill not just 20. and btw it is all gone and now they need new funding.
The graphics update is great, everyone agrees with that. But was it really that difficult to make the graphics like this RIGHT AWAY?
Yes
@@COD8player4life So there was no need to rush into shared open access
sometimes you just need feedback. They were trying mobile/fortnite-ish style because it's "popular". Now they have some actual feedback and they are ready to change their artdirection, which is very promising. Also you can try to make your own game, just to see that 80% of your creative decisions also gonna be trash
@@mrsato7508 But because the game came out too raw, it received a lot of hate and criticism. Many people have experienced disappointment, and will have to prove that SG is a really good game. Was it worth it?
@@mrsato7508they never made fornite mobile graphics. They had unfinished place holder assets so they had some models to test gameplay with.
The copium about the "'Mara" redesign really makes me laugh. You replaced a 1/10 character with a 5/10 character, that also looks like a Fortnite / Overwatch character, when the real issue from the start was that she was not original or likeable in any way. They just copied Sc2, and I assume also Warcraft (but I've never played any of those game so idk). Like, the story writers tried to make everything as stereotypical and unoriginal as possible. Why not try something new? Why not try to do an inverse of the Kerrigan arc? It's just so tiring.
Oh boy. You have a lot of catching up to do. Warcraft 3 is an absolute RTS classic. Think of your gamer cred!
@@REgamesplayer I hate the warcraft aesthetic.
@@EricNapoli-z3d What about Stormgate's aesthetic?
@@REgamesplayer Worse
A revisit? wait 2 years
The funding hasn't been used with much respect at all.
This patch shows this is not the case at all. It isn't even nearly too late for them to make a comeback. Also note, they've removed some of the ways they were gonna make money, like delaying campaign chapters to polish up the experience more, and removing warchest from the roadmap entirely. This means they're probably doing ok on funding.
How dare they release an incomplete game in early access, right??
What are you talking about ? You didn't understand the purpose of the crowd founding...
Or they relaized the money makers dont mean shit when concurrent player base is sub 300.@finrodfel06
@@finrodfel06 not too late? 400 to 500 players at max online for a multiplayer game? it is not too late? they have been digging their graves from the start by saying they will develop a SC2 WC3 successor worth playing for because they are X Blizz devs but what they are showing that they are not the part of the Good Old Blizz Devs.
stop! game is already dead
Cope n seethe
this game is dead on arrival, similar to Concord, a generic game in the genre without offering anything substantially different than the millions of similar games
_"Concord cost $400 million to make; originally refered to as “Future of PlayStation”"_
haha and this game was refered to as the future of RTS
If u comment it means that y have been following the Game for a few months. Therefore You should know the 3 vs 3. I would like to know in which other RTS has this been done?
@@Richard-ln6ot wow ya 3v3 is very new? hahaha ur joking right? they prio 3v3 on a 400 max player online multiplayer game HAHAHAHAHHAAHHA WHAT A JOKE DEVELOPERS THEY ARE FULL OF JOKERS saying they are X Blizz devs well we are now seeing how bad they are! WC3 and SC2 are famous you know why? because they have a great story to tell. even casual players who has 30 APM can enjoy the campaign and the story and be invested in the game. i did not like WC3 reforge but i still bought it just to play the campaign again and maybe in the next few years play it again because iam invested. i Paid for SC2 Campaigns because i was invested in it. i never played rank RTS before but i played most of them from AoE, AoE2, AoE3, AoE4, SC1 SC2, WC3. AoM. being invested into a game is very important especially if you need to spent a lot of time learn it but with what they are showing nah dude lets be real here they cant keep paying steam just to run this game on steam servers with how little the player base they will be bankrupt before this game see a full release.
@@likom9813 I played the same modes like You for many years, really maaaaany years. So the problem is your perspective and your fanaticism, is not ours. But My question is, if u don't like the game, and this is a channel of SG, why are u here my friend? Do u like torture? O your life is so miserable that you throw hate at a Game that is in EA and is indie?
@@Richard-ln6ot indie? do you even know who is backing this game ? tencent is backing this game up which is one of the greediest company there is. this game is not run by indie developers that is having a hard time because of no funding dude wake fcking up. iam here because this game and the devs of this game has such big mouths before the game even release to alpha but what is happening now? they cant even prov them self by having atleast a decent game
@@Richard-ln6ot hahaha indie? do you even know what is the meaning of indie? here let me show you: "An indie developer is a person who is working on its own projects without being backed by investors or venture capital"
and how can this game be indie? when one of the greediest company in the world of gaming is backing this development. at least do some research before you talk about being indie because they are clearly not indie.
Reason why iam here? because devs of this game has very big mouths when the game was not on alpha yet we are X blizz devs and we are making the successor to SC2. the delulu of these devs is through the roof.
Stormgate is ASKING FANS for investment into Frost Giant Equity - Grubby watch this video so you will know that this game is not indie
Shit game dead game fam
ok fam don't really care about your opinion fam.
Fam.
@@Frodonsake24 lit
I like You comment my friend. But i have a question and maybe You can answer me. If this channel is from SG and u don't like the Game. Why are You here? I never understood that logic.
This game is going nowhere. With all the censorship in game and in discord and less than 500 players a day it's a joke to think this is going to be anything more than a scam that hurts the RTS market.
scam? mf its free, this is the first update they went in the right direction and people still doomposting
you don't even know what a scam is bro chill out. This is version 0.1. So many developer DREAM of such visibility at this stage of their development. Games are not created out of magic, it requires a lot of time and work.
They Ban people from talking trash... that is what online gaming is all about. unreal.
@@Frodonsake24 they have all the visibility but why are there only 400 players online? and it is pretty much a scam millions of dollars are lost every month to develop this game and what are we see? version 0.1 on almost 3 years of development? they already have so much feedback from the beta of the game but they did not fix anything before releasing to early access you know why? because they are out of money and they need more funding when they already said the game will be funded until release? and that is not a scam for you? the delulu is through the roof.
@@likom9813 this is not a scam. Understand what a scam is, seriously. It might be a failure (which we don't know yet) but a scam ? No. At no point were you scam. If you're too stupid not to understand what you were getting into it's not their fault. Try to use them if you think it's a scam, theyll be laughing at you. Now you clearly don't understand how complex development is, how this market works, but yet you have plenty of things to say. Now if you hate that game so much, what are you even doing here ?
Also how do you know they ran out of money? Any source about your nonsense ? 3 years of dev, especially giving they started with very few people, is pretty normal. Dude you don't even understand what you're talking about. You don't.