Or maybe I simply can't fly any better 😁 But the Egyptians had to lose, if that gunshot was a little more precise, I would have done that scene again 😁
@@Audfile Egyptians were supposed to get shot down because that's what happened in reality. My videos are not like GS or GR. GR make 'reenactments' but then often they have little to do with what actually happened. As for GS, I sometimes watch his videos but they tend to get boring. It's always the same thing, this plane versus that plane. No context or reason. I try to make videos as close as possible to actual historic events.
It's a really nice design, the French know about these things 😁 However, this mod by VSN is not their best work. F-104 and F-80 external models are comparable to commercial modules. Mirage III isn't. But, it's still quite good.
Thanks for bringing back this historical event, by doing so you are paying tribute to both side who paid the ultimate sacrifice to their respective cause and principles. GREAT JOB, thanks very much again.
I appreciate the support. I do try to give a balanced approach to the history of military aviation. Of course, that doesn't sit well with some people, but my target audience are really people like you.
Nice ! you might also be interested in doing some content on the Mansourah air battle 1973 or the many small-scale air battles during the attrition war 1967-1971
Thanks for the comment. I've been suggested this battle already. Probably will do it someday but I can't tell you exactly when. It's a relatively complex dogfight, not the easiest thing to reenact.
@@showtime112 thanks for your efforts man it's amazing. I understand it's a mammoth effort, this battle having been the biggest airbattle in jet aircraft history by that time. I have some resources in Arabic about the attrition war air battles. If I find something in English I'll send it to you.
The MiG-19s was able to reach great heights of up to 19.5 km in height, and that very ability to rise to great heights was used in Vietnam during US airstrikes.When American planes are fired from above something like the Me-163
Besides the fact there isn't one Google reference to it going that high... "a specialist high-altitude version of the Mig-19, the Mig-19SV, which entered limited production. This had more powerful engines and was lightened, with seatback armour and one of the guns removed, while flap settings were adjusted to give greater lift at higher altitudes and a new pressure suit was introduced. These changes increased the aircraft's ceiling from 57,400 ft to 60,700 ft. Perhaps you are confused on metric conversions. F-4 has twice the thrust. Mig-19 slower then then the Mig-21 and less maneuverable then the Mig-17. There were no MiG-19 aces. You are welcome to go to battle in a Mig-19 while I do vertical loops around you deciding when to shoot you down.
@@TurboMountTV yes but loaded f-4 in bomber stock is an easy target will hardly be able to maneuver The Vietnams shot down an F-4 with a MiG-19 on May 10, 1972 when they shot down f-4D . The MiG-19 also shot down an F-4B on April 14, 1967 On June 26, 1967, another F-4C was shot down by a MiG-19 by an American aircraft while the Vietnamese claim to have shot down 7 F-4 phantoms throughout the war. Also the MiG-19 may not, but it is approximate with the maneuver up to the MiG-17. The MiG-19 was also used not only to fight F-4s but also other American fighters at the time.Eventually the MiG-19 and its Chinese replica F-6 as part of the air force succeeded in helping and preventing the Americans from having complete air superiority over North Vietnam.
Hurghada is not on the Sinai peninsula.... It is on the red sea border east of egyptian main land. Hutghada has never been abandonned by the egyptians and was never under Israels control allthough it was out of order in 1967.
A other great 👍 Historical Video simply great as always. 👏Love the Six Day War one’s. You got a beautiful Mirage III C mod that adds up to the real feeling of this mission Never saw that IAF Mirage mod. 🤷♂️During the Six Day War there where also Pilots from the Pakistani Air Force flying for the Egypt Air Force and other Arab countries taking part in this war and I even read some Russian Instructors where flying for the EAF. 💁♂️
Thanks! This Israeli skin for the Mirage III appeared recently and encouraged me to try a Six Day War video, something I've wanted to do for a long time. All sorts of things were happening then. There were even British mercenary pilots flying Hunters for the Iraqis!
@@showtime112 It's new to me that the British mercenary pilots flew the Iraqis Hawker Hunters. And since those guys where mercenary pilots they didn't belong to the official British RAF. By the time of the Six Day War, in 1967, Iraqi Hunters - were flown by East German, Polish, Libyan and Pakistani pilots. I know for sure that British mercenary pilots flew the Royal Saudi Air Force BAC Lightnings starting by August 1967 but the Six Day War was already over by then. The Saudis had barely enough personnel to run existing RSAF units and nobody qualified to fly and operate the British fighters.
@@LockOnNow Actually, I made a little mistake. The fact about British mercenary pilots is from the 1973. war. It is mentioned in Osprey Combat Aircraft 44. Pilot Robert Conner was flying a recon mission for Iraqi Air Force but was shot down by Syrian air defense. The book also says that Iraqis lost more planes in that war to their Syrian allies than to the Israelis!
I've just noticed this reply from you. It was in the 'held for review' folder. YT will sometimes do it to comments that contain links. I actually own that book, read it a couple of times. And when we get Phantom in DCS, I will sure be reenacting it 😁
Just after 6 years in 1973 war the Egyptian made a great victory using mig 21 on mansura you should do another video for that I am fllowing you from Egypt and i like your video
@@showtime112 yes that's right this is the hugest aircraft in the last century it was in 14 Oct 1973 above Mansoura city Israeli air forces losts more than seven fighters between f4 , skyhawks, and mirage Just search for and u will get more information about this day Good luck 👍
@@arip9234 17 Israelis shot down vs 6 Egyptians (3 from running out of fuel and 3 actually shot down) Especially when they were 62 MiGs vs 160 assorted Israeli planes.
At the end of the 1950s, reflecting both the threat of possible invasion by the Soviet Union and the realities of nuclear warfare, Swiss military doctrine changed to that of a dynamic (mobile) defense that included missions for the Swiss Air Force outside of its territory, in order to defeat standoff attacks and nuclear threats, including the possibility of defensive employment of air-delivered nuclear weapons. However the inability to field an air force of sufficient capability to carry out such missions led to a return of traditional doctrine. Production of the Mirage IIIS developed into a scandal. Although the Air Force staff wanted to acquire the best available aircraft on the market, neither it nor the Federal Council had issued performance specifications. The concept of mobile defense had replaced static defense, such as the Réduit strategy of World War II, as the doctrine of the Swiss Armed Forces. The new doctrine required greater numbers of long-range aircraft and tanks in order to combat Soviet troops before they arrived near the Swiss border. The committee on aircraft procurement, which consisted of two military officers and an engineer who was employed by the army, originally proposed "at least 100 Mirages" to be employed in a multi-role capacity. The parliament first authorized approximately 871 million Swiss francs to build 100 Mirage IIIS under license. But this procurement was soon crushed under massive budget overruns and the government asked for an additional CHF 576 million. The cost overruns were the result of fitting U.S. electronics to the French platform, installing hardpoints for moving the aircraft inside of the caverns by cranes, structural reinforcements for jet-assisted takeoffs, and other extras to improve the off-the-shelf Mirage IIIC.[24] The wish to procure the Mirage IIIS was also boosted by the possibility that the Swiss could acquire aircraft-delivered nuclear weapons, either from France or by producing them themselves.[25] However, another major reason for rising costs was the need to develop a separate variant for the photo-reconnaissance mission when the underwing pods caused too great a performance penalty. The differences between the IIIS and the IIIRS (as the reconnaissance version was designated) resulted in only 36 Mirage IIIS fighters and 18 IIIRS reconnaissance aircraft actually built by the Federal Aircraft Factory at Emmen. Twelve were allocated to a reconnaissance squadron, three to a training group and the rest to two fighter squadrons. It was found that such a small number was insufficient to provide the multi-role capacity deemed essential for the new doctrine. The Mirage IIIS went into service in 1967, and the IIIRS in 1969.[26] The lack of financial oversight and the apparent ease with which Federal Councillor Paul Chaudet and Chief of the General Staff Jakob Annasohn chose the Mirage (at the time, the world's fastest jet fighter) led, for the first time in Swiss history, to the formation of a parliamentary fact-finding commission.[27][28] As a result, parliamentary oversight on military procurements was improved and the military was given the organizational and professional structures to avoid such budget overruns. One Air Force officer had to retire, and Annasohn himself retired voluntarily in the end of 1964, followed by Chaudet who stepped down in 1966 Söihäfeli u Söidecheli
The MIrage III is a mod made by VSN. It's been around since November I believe. They make cool mods such as F-104, F-105 and F-80. They all use FC3 cockpits and basic flight model but are very useful for AI assets. Thank you for your comment!
Mirages radar had very limited look-down/shoot-down capability because they were designed as high altitude light interceptors against soviet strategic bombers.. Definetely they were not designed as fighter-bombers.. French air-to-air missiles were unreliable.. The Delta-wing design acts as huge air-brake so in close dogfight the french planes loose a lot of energy.. It is obvious that Arab pilots had no significant training and no intelligence against Israeli Air Force tactics.. The egyptian MiGs were heavily downgraded also..
"The egyptian MiGs were heavily downgraded also", stop repeating Russian cope. Arab Mig-19s were not monkey models, Soviet pilot training was just lacking.
Just because something is not a direct threat to you, it doesn't mean it's not a threat to your fellow soldiers. Let's say you are a fighter pilot, you intercept an enemy transport aircraft full of enemy paratroopers on their way to capture one of your air bases. But you say, nah, it's not a fair fight and I'm gonna let them live. So, they land, capture the airbase and kill a whole bunch of your countrymen in the process. And then you fly back to your home base and tell this story to your CO. In a non-democratic regime. Your are getting the firing squad, no doubt about it.
The bywords for the IAF as far as I’m concerned is meticulous planning and relentless training,it wasn’t just the preemptive strike against the main Arab airforces but the IAF ground crews were able to refuel and rearm their aircraft in record time with the precision of a F1 pit crew….more than doubling the effectiveness of the IAF….
First of all dude in dis time that wasn't egy flag + I'm really like ur videos keep it up 2- u should make a videos about Almansora air combat when our ,EAF defeated IAF so bad + first blitz to EAF. On sinai I likes this video but u,ve to show da other side of egyptian victory Love u bro keep it up❤️
I've been warned that the flag is not correct. I didn't have any other Egyptian skin, unfortunately. I will try to cover some more topics concerning Egyptian Air Force in the future. Thanks for your comment!
Pozdrav druze, letenje i price koje objavljujes, samo mogu da kazem NEMAM RECI! Svaka cast, i samo drzi kurs koji si zauzeo po poletanju! P.S. - I jedna zanimljivost sto se tice ovog sukoba. Tadasnja Jugoslavija je prvi put uzela ucesce u mirovnim misijama pod okriljem UN! Moj deka je bio na Sinaju 1961. godine. Pokusacu da nadjem i neke slike, pa ako uspem saljem ti! Pozdrav! 😃
Hvala na komentaru! Nastavljamo i dalje u istom tonu 😉 To sa UN misijom mi zvuči poznato, mislim da su bili raspoređeni na Sinaju pa je Egipat tražio da se maknu. Pošalji slike ako nađeš.
Grate video!!!! Love the Era and I love that you show history from the Arab side too. May I aks you about the Greyhound? What mod is it in? And are you using the VSN Mirage III Mod as AI? Thanks!!!
Thank you! I also think this is a really fascinating period. I try to do videos from different sides. Sometimes, it is dictated by available assets in DCS. The Greyhound comes from the Military Aircraft Mod. There are seven more aircraft in it such as B-2 or C-5 Galaxy. Here, it is supposed to be Noratlas but Greyhound has some resemblance. I improvised the skin, deleted USN marking and placed some IDF instead so it's not particularly correct.
Yes, stock skins are scarce. However, the community has made some good ones such as this Egyptian, Syrian, Vietnamese, Pakistani, Chinese.... all those who used MiG-19 in combat
I would love to. However, the main strike force were F-4 Phantoms. Right now, we only have them as AI planes. Phantom is supposedly being developed and we might have it in two years or so. Once that happens, I won't be flying anything else 😁 Thank you for your comment!
@@freakyrims1527 Yes, but F-4s came in 1969. Before that, Mirage III was the best fighter plane in IDF/AF. And even after that, F-4 was often used as a fighter/bomber and Mirage III as a pure fighter. Thanks for your comments!
I have the same Osprey book but can't find the passage you refer to. What page is it on? FWIW the Egyptian pilots did much better than our mostly pro-Israel Western accounts admit, and that Osprey volume helps to correct the record. The Israelis did have the edge, of course, but it was by no means the lopsided turkey shoot that some people (including some commenters on here) seem to think. Anyway, great video - thanks!
Thank you for your comment! This event is described on pages 15 and 16. It's lacking in details so I had to fill in the blanks and details in this video are my vision on how it might have happened. This book significantly changed my view of the events, I can say.
If you can get your hands on it, I highly recommend the “Arab MiGs” series authored by Tom Cooper, David Nicolle, and a number of other co-authors and contributors. That series is worth its weight in gold.
The war was lopsided, 450 aircraft loses vs 45 , 40 000 Arabs vs 1000 Israeli losses, in a conflict that lasted only 6 days. Your comment is just Indian cope, the result of the conflict speaks for itself.
Mirage ΙΙΙ became Mirage V everywhere to French Arms Customer's. Mirage V were refused to be sold to Israelis. Israelis stole the blueprint to Mirage V and built the IAI Nesher. Israeli Variant of Mirage V. Mirage V became IAI Nesher in Israeli Air Force.
That is an utter nonsense propaganda story. MIRAGE V was developed by Dassault upon isreali request for a simpler, cheaper less sophisticated version of Mirage III. Faced with embargo after the 1967 war US bought and paid for Mirage V to be delivered to Isreal clandestinely in knocked down kits to be fast assembled in isreal. There Mirage V kits were transported to isreal by Sea in secret by France where they were assembled with assistance by French technicians. Isreal floated the story of stealing blue prints and manufacturing them in Isreal. Even if isreal had stolen the plans it lacked the industrial base to manufacturers all the components, engines. Electronics........ in such a short time and field them.. The upgrad to Kafir were done in isreal with US, French assistance and installation J79 engines. China is constantly accused of copying and stealing plans but when Isreal dose it (on a false story) they are heroes, what double standards.......
@@xX_Gravity_Xx It is supposed to be flyable, I think. But I could never make any of those mods flyable, just AI. Those that use some FC3 cockpits. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
Thanks! This is the P version (in DCS). I'm not sure if Arab 19's carried missiles. I can't remember them being mentioned. But they sure had the guns :) The event description doesn't give the details but I think it might have happened something like this.
@@showtime112 Aj na našem balkanskom ćemo. Verzija kojom si leteo je nosila rakete ali to tek kasnijih godina. Ne znam da li su i Arapima davali rakete...
@@savamomirovic4439 Ja mislim da 1967. još nisu nosili rakete. U Ospreyevoj knjizi ima profil egipatskog MiG-a 19 sa raketama ali iz 1969. Znam recimo da Vijetnamci na devetnaesticama nisu imali tu mogućnost do 1974. tako da su se tokom rata oslanjali isključivo na topove.
@@showtime112 Da ali te prve sovjetske su bile neefikasne. Čitao sam da su vijetnamci pre birali MiG-19 ili MiG-17 zbog pouzdanosti u odnosu na MiG-21 a razlog su te rakete.
@@savamomirovic4439 Da, kopije ranih verzija Sidewindera. Neki duhoviti ljudi su govorili da je kod njihove upotrebe za obaranje bila potrebna puna suradnja mete 😁
@@showtime112 , my point is based on a version by a Pakistani pilot on a youtube channel that quoted him as having said that. Pakistan has a long history of flying mirages so this point carries some weight. However, Mig 19 is a much inferior fighter jet. I would like to watch the accounts of dogfights between Mirage III and Mig 21.
Just a bit of information. During the 1967 six day war, half of Egypt's army was fighting in Yemen. 75,000 men at the time. The best troups were in Yemen. It was an Israeli victory but for some strange reason the fact only 70,000 men, mostly younger trainees were in Egypt is never mentioned. Food for thought. Just be in the know and informed. What seemed like an incredible victory for Israel when put in its proper perspective was quite different.
لم يحصل اشتباك بين الميك/ ١٩ والميراج في حرب/ ١٩٦٧ بل حصل قتال بين الميراج و الميك/٢١ وقد استفادت إسرائيل من المعلومات التي حصلت عليها قبل الحرب من خلال التدريب على طائرة الميك/٢١ التي هرب بها الطيار العراقي ( منير روفا) إلى إسرائيل قبل الحرب ٠٠٠وقدمت لهم معلومات ثمينه استفاد الإسرائيليون منها لاحقا٠٠٠ منير روفا٠٠٠متزوج من أخت زوجة المناضل طارق عزيز٠٠٠ اعز واثمن صديق للمرحوم صدام حتى وفاته٠٠!!!
Why are you people always so confident with your misinformation? During the 6 day war the Arab militaries definitely operated MIG-19s, plus Su-7s, MIG-17s and even some hawker hunters. They didn't only operate MIG-21s.
The French cut off supplies of Mirage parts to Israel at this time and warned Australia not to do so as well. Australia was also unwilling to use Mirages modified for the ground attack role in Vietnam supposedly because France would have objected.
Mirage III is a flyable mod. Although, at this point I had some problems with it and could only use is as AI. That's why I repeated the airfield strike scene in one of future videos and I believe it's much better there. I quite agree with your wishes :)
Thanks! Here's the forum link with all of VSN mods. It's a bit hard to find, if you just google 'dcs world mirage iii mod' you won't find it. forums.eagle.ru/topic/147247-vsn-flyable-aircraft-mods/
Maybe I miss something, but the escort function of the Mirage III, was totally unefective. Any reason why?. It was due to the egiptyans split to attack the escorts and the tranports at the same time?
No escort can always protect perfectly under any circumstance. Things depend on the tactics, situational awareness and so on. The exact details are unclear but the most likely explanation is that two Egyptian MiGs kept them busy (and sacrificed themselves) to give the others a chance.
I really don't think so. In 1967. Israel had a variety of jets, some of them quite outdated. Egypt had MiG-21, pretty modern and comparable to Mirage III. MiG-19 was comparable to Israeli Super Mystere, MiG-17 to Mystere IV while Ouragan was more obsolete than all the Egyptian fighters.
Heck of a nose on that jet.I don't know how that thing even flies.heck of a fight Showtime.I know that jet was hard to maneuver. God bless and keep fighting. Keep the videos coming I enjoy looking at them.I can watch for hours
I actually did several videos on the 1973 war, you can find them on my channel. However, it's such a large topic that I will certainly go back to it every now and then. Especially if ED releases the Phantom module that they've been announcing for a while. Thanks for the comment!
I was thinking about doing one of those MiG-21 vs F-104 clashes and I probably will. There's no Pakistani skin for the F-104 but maybe I can do something that's not completely horrible 😁
@@showtime112PAF pilot abdus Sattar Alvi who shot down first Israeli Mirage 3 by flying Syrian MIG 21 in 67 Arab Israeli war.... ua-cam.com/video/6oVquFoD3sY/v-deo.html
This makes me wonder... While it is not OK to shoot at ejected crew members from an aircraft... What if those are actually paratroopers? They are going to pose a threat on the ground. 🤔
I'm not a lawyer but I believe thst once a soldier is no longer capable of offensive actions, he mustn't be targeted. A paratrooper in a plane or a helicopter is similar to an infantryman in an APC. Once he gets to his destination, he can fight. An ejected pilot can't fight anymore. He may have a sidearm but that is a defensive weapon.
This is not a historical reconstruction. The claims of the parties involved notwithstanding, Israeli air force never operated the Grumman C.2 Greyhound, shown here. The Israeli air force transport planes of the era were the Nord Noratlas and the C-47 Skytrain (DC 3).
Nobody ever said that Israeli Air Force operated Greyhounds. You are obviously not a DCS player so let me explain what it is. DCS World is the most complex and most realistic military flight simulation ever available commercially. It features many aircraft and other ground and naval assets from WWII to present day. But does it have every single model ever built? Not even remotely. So, for doing reenactments such as this one, you need to make some compromises such as using a more or less similar asset instead of the one you don't have. The only thing you can do unless you are a large production company with millions of dollars available. And if you know someone who does such videos with 100% accuracy, please let me know because I would love to watch that!
@@jonlang2781 And so it does. With some compromises caused by technical impossibility to be 100% accurate. But as I said, when you find content similar to this one but flawless, please let me know!
This shows the jets made by China for Pakistan on the same DNA was surely lethal pg-f6 which was mlu and then carried light capability radar and was able to fire aim9 or sparrow
It wasn't necessarily an easy trap. In this case, there were Israeli paratroopers about to take an Egyptian airfield. The lead element took on four Mirages so that the second element could shoot down the transport planes. It was a sacrifice. In vain though, because Egyptian ground troops retreated from the air base anyway. As for missing, perhaps they weren't missing much in reality. Also, shooting with that gyro sight is a lot harder than it seems :)
Do you mean, where is it happening geographically? Or can you download it? First case, over the Red Sea and Sinai Peninsula. Second case, I haven't made a full playable mission, rather individual pieces that I put together into a video.
If you see something in these videos that's not quite accurate, in most cases it is simply because it can't be. There's no simulation with every single aircraft, tank, ship and vehicles in every variant and su-variant. Approximation is the only option.
In that war a Pakistani pilot shot down mirage 3 with mig 19 and The Isreali pilot's Uniform was gifted to him 😂 Cause they were used to Egyptian Airforce. Amd when they faced the real boss They were shitting their pants
Yes, PAF pilot was Sattar alvi who shot down first Israeli Mirage 3 by flying Syrian MIG 21... Israeli pilot's name was capt Lutz. .. Ejected but died in the hospital... His uniform is still in PAF museum...
That was incredible! It was so authentic you even flew the Mig really crappy like a real Egyptian pilot!
Or maybe I simply can't fly any better 😁 But the Egyptians had to lose, if that gunshot was a little more precise, I would have done that scene again 😁
^^
@@showtime112 oh, I literally just assumed you were missing on purpose! It stood out starkly versus the Mirages who hit you like mako sharks.
@@showtime112 if you want pointers on how to not waste motion and how to really become a good gunner, watch Growling Sidewinder. He can fly.
@@Audfile Egyptians were supposed to get shot down because that's what happened in reality. My videos are not like GS or GR. GR make 'reenactments' but then often they have little to do with what actually happened. As for GS, I sometimes watch his videos but they tend to get boring. It's always the same thing, this plane versus that plane. No context or reason. I try to make videos as close as possible to actual historic events.
The Mirage 3 is so damn sexy
I'm sure most people would agree! :)
@@omerashraf9357 Doug Maxwell - Swinging With The Sultan. You can find in in UA-cam Audio library.
@@felix25ize Exactly the point of it :)
My country still uses it but the upgraded variants:)
@@showtime112 que juego es 🤔👍🇨🇱
The Mirage III always looks so gorgeous !
It's a really nice design, the French know about these things 😁 However, this mod by VSN is not their best work. F-104 and F-80 external models are comparable to commercial modules. Mirage III isn't. But, it's still quite good.
Now only a Super Etendard and I'm a happy man haha
@@loco141r3 Have you by any chance seen this:
www.lockonforum.de/community/thread/8284-super-etendard-sem/
@@showtime112 oh WoW !
Fascinating! reading about the encounters is one thing, visualizing them makes it so much better.
Thank you for your positive comment!
Israel's Air Force : the fastest demolition team in the world.Pin point destruction available 24/7.
Six Day War? Excellent choice!
Yes, I wanted to do it for a long time but I though there weren't enough resources. Some mods and skins emerged and there it is! 😊
@@showtime112 Do more of 1967 War!
@@fab_gaming106 Oh, I will! 😊
What about 6 10 1973 !!!
@@ismailhassan8574 Well, yeah! The 1973. War will certainly be revisited again in the future.
Thanks for bringing back this historical event, by doing so you are paying tribute to both side who paid the ultimate sacrifice to their respective cause and principles. GREAT JOB, thanks very much again.
I appreciate the support. I do try to give a balanced approach to the history of military aviation. Of course, that doesn't sit well with some people, but my target audience are really people like you.
Peace of history is now forever live with this reenactment. Thank you!
Thanks for the comment!
Piece?
Nice !
you might also be interested in doing some content on the Mansourah air battle 1973 or the many small-scale air battles during the attrition war 1967-1971
Thanks for the comment. I've been suggested this battle already. Probably will do it someday but I can't tell you exactly when. It's a relatively complex dogfight, not the easiest thing to reenact.
@@showtime112 thanks for your efforts man it's amazing.
I understand it's a mammoth effort, this battle having been the biggest airbattle in jet aircraft history by that time.
I have some resources in Arabic about the attrition war air battles. If I find something in English I'll send it to you.
@@mahmoodali5043 OK, thanks!
@@showtime112 The Mansourah Air battle for me too!
That's what I've been waiting for!
He who waits, sometimes waits a long time. An old Chinese proverb 😁😁😁
"Gunfight over the desert" Great stuff, thanks !
Thanks for the comment!
The MiG-19s was able to reach great heights of up to 19.5 km in height, and that very ability to rise to great heights was used in Vietnam during US airstrikes.When American planes are fired from above something like the Me-163
Thank you for sharing that information!
Mig-19 Service ceiling: 57,400 ft
F-4 Service ceiling: 60,000 ft
@@TurboMountTV MiG-19 versionS could be raised to a maximum height of 19 to 20 km
Besides the fact there isn't one Google reference to it going that high...
"a specialist high-altitude version of the Mig-19, the Mig-19SV, which entered limited production. This had more powerful engines and was lightened, with seatback armour and one of the guns removed, while flap settings were adjusted to give greater lift at higher altitudes and a new pressure suit was introduced. These changes increased the aircraft's ceiling from 57,400 ft to 60,700 ft.
Perhaps you are confused on metric conversions.
F-4 has twice the thrust.
Mig-19 slower then then the Mig-21 and less maneuverable then the Mig-17.
There were no MiG-19 aces.
You are welcome to go to battle in a Mig-19 while I do vertical loops around you deciding when to shoot you down.
@@TurboMountTV yes but loaded f-4 in bomber stock is an easy target will hardly be able to maneuver The Vietnams shot down an F-4 with a MiG-19 on May 10, 1972 when they shot down f-4D . The MiG-19 also shot down an F-4B on April 14, 1967 On June 26, 1967, another F-4C was shot down by a MiG-19 by an American aircraft while the Vietnamese claim to have shot down 7 F-4 phantoms throughout the war. Also the MiG-19 may not, but it is approximate with the maneuver up to the MiG-17. The MiG-19 was also used not only to fight F-4s but also other American fighters at the time.Eventually the MiG-19 and its Chinese replica F-6 as part of the air force succeeded in helping and preventing the Americans from having complete air superiority over North Vietnam.
Reminds me of this old game I use to play, Wings over Israel it had A4,Mirages, F4 Phantom, good game
Thanks for the comment!
Cierto, yo juego al Strike Fighters 2 en todas sus versiones y puedo confirmar que es un juegazo
Hurghada is not on the Sinai peninsula.... It is on the red sea border east of egyptian main land. Hutghada has never been abandonned by the egyptians and was never under Israels control allthough it was out of order in 1967.
Just found ur channel - and it’s sweeeet.
Thank you for commenting and joining! Hope you like other videos too!
Ona snimka s tla ispod drveta je skroz dobar detalj 😌
A da, treba svako malo dodati nešto novo :)
No more easy kills for you.
Love the Mirage. Definitely my next DCS plane.
Mesmerizing! I could not stop watching this video for even a second! 😮👍
Good to hear you liked it!
A other great 👍 Historical Video simply great as always. 👏Love the Six Day War one’s. You got a beautiful Mirage III C mod that adds up to the real feeling of this mission Never saw that IAF Mirage mod. 🤷♂️During the Six Day War there where also Pilots from the Pakistani Air Force flying for the Egypt Air Force and other Arab countries taking part in this war and I even read some Russian Instructors where flying for the EAF. 💁♂️
Thanks! This Israeli skin for the Mirage III appeared recently and encouraged me to try a Six Day War video, something I've wanted to do for a long time.
All sorts of things were happening then. There were even British mercenary pilots flying Hunters for the Iraqis!
@@showtime112 Since you like the F-4 Phantom check out the link below.
ospreypublishing.com/israeli-f-4-phantom-ii-aces
Israeli F-4 Phantom II Aces
@@showtime112 It's new to me that the British mercenary pilots flew the Iraqis Hawker Hunters. And since those guys where mercenary pilots they didn't belong to the official British RAF. By the time of the Six Day War, in 1967, Iraqi Hunters - were flown by East German, Polish, Libyan and Pakistani pilots. I know for sure that British mercenary pilots flew the Royal Saudi Air Force BAC Lightnings starting by August 1967 but the Six Day War was already over by then. The Saudis had barely enough personnel to run existing RSAF units and nobody qualified to fly and operate the British fighters.
@@LockOnNow Actually, I made a little mistake. The fact about British mercenary pilots is from the 1973. war. It is mentioned in Osprey Combat Aircraft 44. Pilot Robert Conner was flying a recon mission for Iraqi Air Force but was shot down by Syrian air defense. The book also says that Iraqis lost more planes in that war to their Syrian allies than to the Israelis!
I've just noticed this reply from you. It was in the 'held for review' folder. YT will sometimes do it to comments that contain links. I actually own that book, read it a couple of times. And when we get Phantom in DCS, I will sure be reenacting it 😁
Excellent as always. Very much enjoy your videos. Thank you!
Thanks a lot, your support is appreciated!
Just after 6 years in 1973 war the Egyptian made a great victory using mig 21 on mansura you should do another video for that
I am fllowing you from Egypt and i like your video
Thank you for the comment and your suggestion! That air battle is certainly very interesting, I'm putting it on my list for possible future videos!
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@@showtime112 yes that's right this is the hugest aircraft in the last century it was in 14 Oct 1973 above Mansoura city
Israeli air forces losts more than seven fighters between f4 , skyhawks, and mirage
Just search for and u will get more information about this day
Good luck 👍
Yea sure 2 Israeli F4’s downed (one by friendly fire) vs 5 Migs downed. Get your facts right and stop spreading nonsenses here.
@@arip9234 17 Israelis shot down vs 6 Egyptians (3 from running out of fuel and 3 actually shot down)
Especially when they were 62 MiGs vs 160 assorted Israeli planes.
At the end of the 1950s, reflecting both the threat of possible invasion by the Soviet Union and the realities of nuclear warfare, Swiss military doctrine changed to that of a dynamic (mobile) defense that included missions for the Swiss Air Force outside of its territory, in order to defeat standoff attacks and nuclear threats, including the possibility of defensive employment of air-delivered nuclear weapons. However the inability to field an air force of sufficient capability to carry out such missions led to a return of traditional doctrine.
Production of the Mirage IIIS developed into a scandal. Although the Air Force staff wanted to acquire the best available aircraft on the market, neither it nor the Federal Council had issued performance specifications. The concept of mobile defense had replaced static defense, such as the Réduit strategy of World War II, as the doctrine of the Swiss Armed Forces. The new doctrine required greater numbers of long-range aircraft and tanks in order to combat Soviet troops before they arrived near the Swiss border. The committee on aircraft procurement, which consisted of two military officers and an engineer who was employed by the army, originally proposed "at least 100 Mirages" to be employed in a multi-role capacity.
The parliament first authorized approximately 871 million Swiss francs to build 100 Mirage IIIS under license. But this procurement was soon crushed under massive budget overruns and the government asked for an additional CHF 576 million. The cost overruns were the result of fitting U.S. electronics to the French platform, installing hardpoints for moving the aircraft inside of the caverns by cranes, structural reinforcements for jet-assisted takeoffs, and other extras to improve the off-the-shelf Mirage IIIC.[24] The wish to procure the Mirage IIIS was also boosted by the possibility that the Swiss could acquire aircraft-delivered nuclear weapons, either from France or by producing them themselves.[25]
However, another major reason for rising costs was the need to develop a separate variant for the photo-reconnaissance mission when the underwing pods caused too great a performance penalty. The differences between the IIIS and the IIIRS (as the reconnaissance version was designated) resulted in only 36 Mirage IIIS fighters and 18 IIIRS reconnaissance aircraft actually built by the Federal Aircraft Factory at Emmen. Twelve were allocated to a reconnaissance squadron, three to a training group and the rest to two fighter squadrons. It was found that such a small number was insufficient to provide the multi-role capacity deemed essential for the new doctrine. The Mirage IIIS went into service in 1967, and the IIIRS in 1969.[26]
The lack of financial oversight and the apparent ease with which Federal Councillor Paul Chaudet and Chief of the General Staff Jakob Annasohn chose the Mirage (at the time, the world's fastest jet fighter) led, for the first time in Swiss history, to the formation of a parliamentary fact-finding commission.[27][28] As a result, parliamentary oversight on military procurements was improved and the military was given the organizational and professional structures to avoid such budget overruns. One Air Force officer had to retire, and Annasohn himself retired voluntarily in the end of 1964, followed by Chaudet who stepped down in 1966
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Thank you for this information relevant to the Mirage.
Thanks!
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Makes me pine for the days of Jane's IAF.
We can only hope to get some more of that era's assets in DCS.
You mean blue star?
כוכב כחול
When the hell did they get the mirage 3? All kinds of sexy old jets needed in the game
The MIrage III is a mod made by VSN. It's been around since November I believe. They make cool mods such as F-104, F-105 and F-80. They all use FC3 cockpits and basic flight model but are very useful for AI assets. Thank you for your comment!
Great video! Keep em coming!
Thanks. Sure will!
Nice narration!!
Thank you! I like to tell an interesting story.
As realistic as it can be. Good job👍🏻
Thanks for a positive comment!
Really enjoyed your content bro! Keep on it! Subbed
Thank you very much for your comment and subscription!
Mirages radar had very limited look-down/shoot-down capability because they were designed as high altitude light interceptors against soviet strategic bombers.. Definetely they were not designed as fighter-bombers.. French air-to-air missiles were unreliable.. The Delta-wing design acts as huge air-brake so in close dogfight the french planes loose a lot of energy.. It is obvious that Arab pilots had no significant training and no intelligence against Israeli Air Force tactics.. The egyptian MiGs were heavily downgraded also..
Thanks for contributing with additional info!
So is valid to say that isralies could react in a preetive manner to the approcahing enemies beacuse the radar. Correct?.
"The egyptian MiGs were heavily downgraded also", stop repeating Russian cope. Arab Mig-19s were not monkey models, Soviet pilot training was just lacking.
Really nice video, air combat are very realistic 👍
I'm happy to hear it, thank you!
The transport is a c2 known in the navy as a "cod carrier on delivery"
Yup, it is a stand-in for the Noratlas.
@Showtime112 yeah well its what ya got to work with and it works
Fantastic video 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Glad you liked it!
Damn, i don’t think I’d have the balls to shoot down a transport plane so mercilessly like that
Just because something is not a direct threat to you, it doesn't mean it's not a threat to your fellow soldiers. Let's say you are a fighter pilot, you intercept an enemy transport aircraft full of enemy paratroopers on their way to capture one of your air bases. But you say, nah, it's not a fair fight and I'm gonna let them live. So, they land, capture the airbase and kill a whole bunch of your countrymen in the process. And then you fly back to your home base and tell this story to your CO. In a non-democratic regime. Your are getting the firing squad, no doubt about it.
82ND AIRBORNE
A Paratroopers role is a tough gig...
Glad to see the Mirages get some Payback..
You could say that two MiG-19s sacrificed themselves to create an opportunity for the attack on transport planes.
@@showtime112
82ND AIRBORNE
Sacrificing the Two planes makes sense. Most...not all but most Paratroopers are Psycho Killers.
The bywords for the IAF as far as I’m concerned is meticulous planning and relentless training,it wasn’t just the preemptive strike against the main Arab airforces but the IAF ground crews were able to refuel and rearm their aircraft in record time with the precision of a F1 pit crew….more than doubling the effectiveness of the IAF….
They took their Air Force extremely seriously.
First of all dude in dis time that wasn't egy flag + I'm really like ur videos keep it up
2- u should make a videos about Almansora air combat when our ,EAF defeated IAF so bad + first blitz to EAF. On sinai
I likes this video but u,ve to show da other side of egyptian victory
Love u bro keep it up❤️
I've been warned that the flag is not correct. I didn't have any other Egyptian skin, unfortunately.
I will try to cover some more topics concerning Egyptian Air Force in the future.
Thanks for your comment!
@@showtime112 thx dude I appreciate that + I didn't read the other comments sorry for that 😅 keep it up wit non stop
I Was about to say that
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P.S. - I jedna zanimljivost sto se tice ovog sukoba. Tadasnja Jugoslavija je prvi put uzela ucesce u mirovnim misijama pod okriljem UN! Moj deka je bio na Sinaju 1961. godine. Pokusacu da nadjem i neke slike, pa ako uspem saljem ti!
Pozdrav! 😃
Hvala na komentaru! Nastavljamo i dalje u istom tonu 😉 To sa UN misijom mi zvuči poznato, mislim da su bili raspoređeni na Sinaju pa je Egipat tražio da se maknu. Pošalji slike ako nađeš.
82ND AIRBORNE
Damn...Those Paratroopers got wasted.
Grate video!!!! Love the Era and I love that you show history from the Arab side too.
May I aks you about the Greyhound? What mod is it in? And are you using the VSN Mirage III Mod as AI? Thanks!!!
Thank you! I also think this is a really fascinating period. I try to do videos from different sides. Sometimes, it is dictated by available assets in DCS.
The Greyhound comes from the Military Aircraft Mod. There are seven more aircraft in it such as B-2 or C-5 Galaxy. Here, it is supposed to be Noratlas but Greyhound has some resemblance. I improvised the skin, deleted USN marking and placed some IDF instead so it's not particularly correct.
And yes, the Mirage III is VSN mod.
It is nice that someone gives a stage for the handfull of arab air success. Its like the number of nobel prizes they got.
They took on an element of Israeli Mirages and LOST!
I wish we had more stock Mig 19 skins
Yes, stock skins are scarce. However, the community has made some good ones such as this Egyptian, Syrian, Vietnamese, Pakistani, Chinese.... all those who used MiG-19 in combat
Can you do the Attack on H3 during the Iran-Iraq War?
I would love to. However, the main strike force were F-4 Phantoms. Right now, we only have them as AI planes. Phantom is supposedly being developed and we might have it in two years or so. Once that happens, I won't be flying anything else 😁 Thank you for your comment!
@@showtime112 that's true,we had the votours as bombers,mirage as a multirole fighter and the f4e as fighters
@@freakyrims1527 Yes, but F-4s came in 1969. Before that, Mirage III was the best fighter plane in IDF/AF. And even after that, F-4 was often used as a fighter/bomber and Mirage III as a pure fighter.
Thanks for your comments!
I have the same Osprey book but can't find the passage you refer to. What page is it on? FWIW the Egyptian pilots did much better than our mostly pro-Israel Western accounts admit, and that Osprey volume helps to correct the record. The Israelis did have the edge, of course, but it was by no means the lopsided turkey shoot that some people (including some commenters on here) seem to think.
Anyway, great video - thanks!
Thank you for your comment! This event is described on pages 15 and 16. It's lacking in details so I had to fill in the blanks and details in this video are my vision on how it might have happened.
This book significantly changed my view of the events, I can say.
If you can get your hands on it, I highly recommend the “Arab MiGs” series authored by Tom Cooper, David Nicolle, and a number of other co-authors and contributors. That series is worth its weight in gold.
@@samy7013 Thanks for the tip
The war was lopsided, 450 aircraft loses vs 45 , 40 000 Arabs vs 1000 Israeli losses, in a conflict that lasted only 6 days. Your comment is just Indian cope, the result of the conflict speaks for itself.
Who wants to play Jane's IAF video game remastered... 💕
Mirage ΙΙΙ became Mirage V everywhere to French Arms Customer's.
Mirage V were refused to be sold to Israelis. Israelis stole the blueprint to Mirage V and built the IAI Nesher.
Israeli Variant of Mirage V.
Mirage V became IAI Nesher in Israeli Air Force.
That is an utter nonsense propaganda story. MIRAGE V was developed by Dassault upon isreali request for a simpler, cheaper less sophisticated version of Mirage III. Faced with embargo after the 1967 war US bought and paid for Mirage V to be delivered to Isreal clandestinely in knocked down kits to be fast assembled in isreal. There Mirage V kits were transported to isreal by Sea in secret by France where they were assembled with assistance by French technicians. Isreal floated the story of stealing blue prints and manufacturing them in Isreal. Even if isreal had stolen the plans it lacked the industrial base to manufacturers all the components, engines. Electronics........ in such a short time and field them.. The upgrad to Kafir were done in isreal with US, French assistance and installation J79 engines. China is constantly accused of copying and stealing plans but when Isreal dose it (on a false story) they are heroes, what double standards.......
Lesson to be learned: Don't leave your nice jets parked out in the open when your enemy is only a short flight away. Oh, and buy SAMs - a lot of SAMs.
Who would have thought of that 😁😁
Gotta love "preemptive strikes".
Others tried to copy it (Pakistan 1971, Iraq 1980). But nobody was nearly as effective as Israel in 1967.
@@showtime112 you forgot Germany in '39
I wasn't aware of a Mirage III/Kfir in the game
It was done by VSN. Thev've done some other mods too. For example F-104, which looks a lot better than the Mirage but it's still good to have it.
@@showtime112 Is it in the Flyables pack?
@@xX_Gravity_Xx It is supposed to be flyable, I think. But I could never make any of those mods flyable, just AI. Those that use some FC3 cockpits. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong.
LOL the music
A comment for the algorithm
MiG-1
MiG-3
MiG-9
MiG-15
MiG-17
MiG-19
MiG-21
MiG-23
MiG-25
MiG-27
MiG-29
MiG-31
MiG-35
..probably late to the game; but its odd
Oh dude you are awesome 😎 🤞.... I'm going to keep to follow to your UA-cam channel
Thanks! I'm quite happy how this one turned out. Keep watching!
@@showtime112 I will
nice....
Old plane but gold 😀, and is that version of MiG-19 able to carry Atoll rockets? Great video!
Thanks! This is the P version (in DCS). I'm not sure if Arab 19's carried missiles. I can't remember them being mentioned. But they sure had the guns :) The event description doesn't give the details but I think it might have happened something like this.
@@showtime112 Aj na našem balkanskom ćemo. Verzija kojom si leteo je nosila rakete ali to tek kasnijih godina. Ne znam da li su i Arapima davali rakete...
@@savamomirovic4439 Ja mislim da 1967. još nisu nosili rakete. U Ospreyevoj knjizi ima profil egipatskog MiG-a 19 sa raketama ali iz 1969. Znam recimo da Vijetnamci na devetnaesticama nisu imali tu mogućnost do 1974. tako da su se tokom rata oslanjali isključivo na topove.
@@showtime112 Da ali te prve sovjetske su bile neefikasne. Čitao sam da su vijetnamci pre birali MiG-19 ili MiG-17 zbog pouzdanosti u odnosu na MiG-21 a razlog su te rakete.
@@savamomirovic4439 Da, kopije ranih verzija Sidewindera. Neki duhoviti ljudi su govorili da je kod njihove upotrebe za obaranje bila potrebna puna suradnja mete 😁
All very well and good, but where the hell were the Mirages when their charges were being attacked? Poor show, in an otherwise brilliant campaign.
Mirages III are not known for dog fights. They are more suitable for air to ground strikes.
Actually, they were extremely successful in air-to-air combat.
@@showtime112 , my point is based on a version by a Pakistani pilot on a youtube channel that quoted him as having said that. Pakistan has a long history of flying mirages so this point carries some weight. However, Mig 19 is a much inferior fighter jet. I would like to watch the accounts of dogfights between Mirage III and Mig 21.
Just a bit of information. During the 1967 six day war, half of Egypt's army was fighting in Yemen. 75,000 men at the time. The best troups were in Yemen. It was an Israeli victory but for some strange reason the fact only 70,000 men, mostly younger trainees were in Egypt is never mentioned. Food for thought. Just be in the know and informed. What seemed like an incredible victory for Israel when put in its proper perspective was quite different.
That's a little known fact. And quite likely influenced Israeli decision to go to war.
But still, they were very successful against Syria and Jordan.
The best troops were in Yemen? Whatever. One of the most stunning military victories of all time.
whatever toots your horn mo-hammed.
whats your excuse for 1973?
لم يحصل اشتباك بين الميك/ ١٩ والميراج في حرب/ ١٩٦٧ بل حصل
قتال بين الميراج و الميك/٢١ وقد استفادت إسرائيل من المعلومات التي حصلت عليها قبل الحرب من خلال التدريب على طائرة الميك/٢١ التي هرب بها الطيار العراقي ( منير روفا) إلى إسرائيل قبل الحرب ٠٠٠وقدمت لهم معلومات ثمينه استفاد الإسرائيليون منها لاحقا٠٠٠
منير روفا٠٠٠متزوج من أخت زوجة
المناضل طارق عزيز٠٠٠ اعز واثمن صديق للمرحوم صدام حتى وفاته٠٠!!!
Why are you people always so confident with your misinformation? During the 6 day war the Arab militaries definitely operated MIG-19s, plus Su-7s, MIG-17s and even some hawker hunters. They didn't only operate MIG-21s.
Actually when the Israelis got to the bases they climbed up from 100ft to 3000ft to start the bombing run.
The French cut off supplies of Mirage parts to Israel at this time and warned Australia not to do so as well. Australia was also unwilling to use Mirages modified for the ground attack role in Vietnam supposedly because France would have objected.
I didn't know that, thanks for contributing!
Is the mirage 111 a mod or is it AI only? cause I would seriously love an official release of the mirage 111, F111 and Hawker hunter
Mirage III is a flyable mod. Although, at this point I had some problems with it and could only use is as AI. That's why I repeated the airfield strike scene in one of future videos and I believe it's much better there.
I quite agree with your wishes :)
Hey there nice video, where can i find mirage iii mod ?
Thanks! Here's the forum link with all of VSN mods. It's a bit hard to find, if you just google 'dcs world mirage iii mod' you won't find it.
forums.eagle.ru/topic/147247-vsn-flyable-aircraft-mods/
@@showtime112 thanks man appreciated
Maybe I miss something, but the escort function of the Mirage III, was totally unefective. Any reason why?. It was due to the egiptyans split to attack the escorts and the tranports at the same time?
No escort can always protect perfectly under any circumstance. Things depend on the tactics, situational awareness and so on. The exact details are unclear but the most likely explanation is that two Egyptian MiGs kept them busy (and sacrificed themselves) to give the others a chance.
Did Egyptians really use mig-19p with radars in this battle?
No, they had the S variant but in DCS, we only have the P.
Israeli only had modern jets , if the egyptian air race could had also modern jets that was were amazing
I really don't think so. In 1967. Israel had a variety of jets, some of them quite outdated. Egypt had MiG-21, pretty modern and comparable to Mirage III. MiG-19 was comparable to Israeli Super Mystere, MiG-17 to Mystere IV while Ouragan was more obsolete than all the Egyptian fighters.
They also pressed the Fouga Magister into battle against ground targets.
Heck of a nose on that jet.I don't know how that thing even flies.heck of a fight Showtime.I know that jet was hard to maneuver. God bless and keep fighting. Keep the videos coming I enjoy looking at them.I can watch for hours
Well, MiG-19 probably wouldn't win any beauty contest 😁 Thank you very much for commenting and watching!
9:32 Grumman greyhound C2, israel uses Nord2501 Noratlas for paratroops
Yes, those were Noratleses historically. C-2 was the only thing available, perhaps not similar but not very different.
@@showtime112 only there was no noratlas shootdowns. one was bombed on the ground . an egyptian il-14 WAS downed .
@@nomadnametab This story is from the Egyptian side. As in many cases in modern aerial warfare, two sides don't really match.
the yom kipur if not only for idf if for the test of the world.
Off topic tema. Jesil možda bio na lets go flying meetingu u Zagrebu?
Nisam. Ti jesi? Zanimljivo?
Excelente video de guerra ✈️🇨🇱👍abrazos desde z🇨🇱✈️que juego 3s 😁😁
Thanks! Feel free to check out other videos too!
Thats an accurate schematic for the mirage,greetings from israel :)
That's a very good skin job by author Aerojust.
Can you make a vid on the 1973 war
I actually did several videos on the 1973 war, you can find them on my channel. However, it's such a large topic that I will certainly go back to it every now and then. Especially if ED releases the Phantom module that they've been announcing for a while.
Thanks for the comment!
Can you do the IAF MiG-21 gun kill of a PAF F-104 at supersonic speed in 1971
I was thinking about doing one of those MiG-21 vs F-104 clashes and I probably will. There's no Pakistani skin for the F-104 but maybe I can do something that's not completely horrible 😁
Or maybe that one time a PAF f86 Sabre shot down an IAF Mig 21. Or that other time when a f104 shot it's missile right up the Indian AF mig 21.
@@zarakdurrani7584 Interesting suggestions. Do you have any sources you can recommend?
@@showtime112PAF pilot abdus Sattar Alvi who shot down first Israeli Mirage 3 by flying Syrian MIG 21 in 67 Arab Israeli war.... ua-cam.com/video/6oVquFoD3sY/v-deo.html
MIGのHUDが二重になってる。別々の情報を同時に表示する仕組みか？
There is nothing more satisfying then a gun kill.
Probably. And I suppose because it's the hardest one to achieve.
@@showtime112 That it is. When ever It is possible, I will try for a gun kill. Especially if it is P vs P. I have subscribed.
Sweet
Thank you!
This makes me wonder... While it is not OK to shoot at ejected crew members from an aircraft... What if those are actually paratroopers? They are going to pose a threat on the ground. 🤔
I'm not a lawyer but I believe thst once a soldier is no longer capable of offensive actions, he mustn't be targeted. A paratrooper in a plane or a helicopter is similar to an infantryman in an APC. Once he gets to his destination, he can fight. An ejected pilot can't fight anymore. He may have a sidearm but that is a defensive weapon.
This is not a historical reconstruction. The claims of the parties involved notwithstanding, Israeli air force never operated the Grumman C.2 Greyhound, shown here. The Israeli air force transport planes of the era were the Nord Noratlas and the C-47 Skytrain (DC 3).
Nobody ever said that Israeli Air Force operated Greyhounds. You are obviously not a DCS player so let me explain what it is. DCS World is the most complex and most realistic military flight simulation ever available commercially. It features many aircraft and other ground and naval assets from WWII to present day. But does it have every single model ever built? Not even remotely. So, for doing reenactments such as this one, you need to make some compromises such as using a more or less similar asset instead of the one you don't have. The only thing you can do unless you are a large production company with millions of dollars available.
And if you know someone who does such videos with 100% accuracy, please let me know because I would love to watch that!
@@showtime112 Sorry, the description above says that it revives scenes from history. So, i tought...
@@jonlang2781 And so it does. With some compromises caused by technical impossibility to be 100% accurate. But as I said, when you find content similar to this one but flawless, please let me know!
mirage-111 vs mig-17 deadly duo but sexy.
yes in this war PAF pilots operating syrian and Egyptian planes shotdown israeli aircrafts, most famously commander Lutz of IDFAF.
I think that was the next war. Or the one after the next, if you count the War of Attrition.
both sides used 30mm cannons
Russian pilots helped Egyptian AF as volonteers
Please fix that ADI. It looks like you're flying upside down.
It may look wrong but that's exactly what it looks on MiG-19. And even if it wasn't right, you can't just 'fix' a module in DCS World.
Me?I wasn't looking at the flight instruments,just looking for the target.
Wonder why the transports didn't hug the ground and jink the Migs? Too bad.
Maybe they did to some extent but it's hard to outmaneuver a fighter in a transport airplane.
This shows the jets made by China for Pakistan on the same DNA was surely lethal pg-f6 which was mlu and then carried light capability radar and was able to fire aim9 or sparrow
Oh, yeah. Fond memories of Wings Over Israel, cratering the runways and strafing the fuel tanks for good measure.
The mikoyan mig-19-farmer the supersónic fighter in the soviet air force.
Thanks for commenting!
How can i get those modules?
You mean MIrages? Here is the download link:
www.lockonforum.de/community/thread/8294-mirage-iii-c-s/?postID=85065#post85065
@@showtime112 thanks!
Why were Egyptian pilots so terrible? Missing shots, that shouldn’t have missed. Falling easy pray to traps.
It wasn't necessarily an easy trap. In this case, there were Israeli paratroopers about to take an Egyptian airfield. The lead element took on four Mirages so that the second element could shoot down the transport planes. It was a sacrifice. In vain though, because Egyptian ground troops retreated from the air base anyway.
As for missing, perhaps they weren't missing much in reality. Also, shooting with that gyro sight is a lot harder than it seems :)
The mirage was a some shooting down thoes Ming-19s great job.
It all depend on the quality of the pilot.pakistan mig 19 (f6 variant) score some impressive victory over the indian af.
نحنا كمصريين بالكم ان انتجنا سلاحنا بايدينا سوف تذهب ن الي الجحيمم
where is this mission or campaign??
Do you mean, where is it happening geographically? Or can you download it? First case, over the Red Sea and Sinai Peninsula. Second case, I haven't made a full playable mission, rather individual pieces that I put together into a video.
@@showtime112 OK. thank u. I want to play missions with migs.
Another mirage win! 💪🏻 🇫🇷
Pretty sure Israel didn't fly USN C-2A Greyhounds ;)
If you see something in these videos that's not quite accurate, in most cases it is simply because it can't be. There's no simulation with every single aircraft, tank, ship and vehicles in every variant and su-variant. Approximation is the only option.
In that war a Pakistani pilot shot down mirage 3 with
mig 19 and The Isreali pilot's Uniform was gifted to him 😂
Cause they were used to Egyptian Airforce.
Amd when they faced the real boss
They were shitting their pants
3 f4 phantom also , from ❤🇹🇷
Yes, PAF pilot was Sattar alvi who shot down first Israeli Mirage 3 by flying Syrian MIG 21... Israeli pilot's name was capt Lutz.
.. Ejected but died in the hospital... His uniform is still in PAF museum...
@@trollllllll4499 a total of 10 or 11 jets i recall were destroyed by paf
@@learn_networking1 i saw his interview on express i think
@@captainAOG Yes, it was on ARY.....
Hey please do a video about indian mig25 mach 2 high altitude recon flight over Pakistan in 1997
We don't have a very good model of MiG-25. It's AI controlled only and rather old. If someone produces a proper module someday.
@@showtime112 may be u can use a mig 31 for time being, it has similar profile
And also defection of victor belenko would be awesome to see
the six day war idf vs egipt. syria and jordan. mig+17-19-21 vs.mirage+111.
Essentially, yes.
Please start moving your excellent videos to "Rumble" please.
I'm not really familiar with that platform. What are its main advantages?
@@showtime112 None probably from your perspective. Forget I mentioned it. Love your historical re-enactments. Thank you.
@@christophercarson578 Thank you for watching and commenting! That means a lot!