so does that guitar flip at 15:04 - jesus christ man. i miss this so much. whenever i need to readjust my testosterone levels i come back to this video.
@@xavierquiles3037 I agree. Musically much better. I prefer the newer albums to bless the martyr. but there is no doubt that live, back in the day, this energy could not be beat. i mean this is goes beyond music, this is performance art.
@nickrandles1102 I just wanted to say I think it's really cool that you saw Whitechapel in the og days. Sorry the dude above tried to act like it wasn't as cool as it was
I'm so intrigued by how this scene emerged at a time when nu-metal was the popular thing. I envy the fact that these kids went in such a different musical (and cultural) direction, while I was still wearing jncos and listening to Korn and Linkin Park. Fortunately, I discovered Norma Jean by 2004, and it dramatically changed my musical perspective for the better.
@@artdamages there’s probably some truth to that, but I’d associate them with being creative in their execution. I think I was taking aim at a lot of bands that used the breakdown as more of a grove section, which seems different than NJ.
God I wish I could go back and introduce myself to the scene all over again. The first decade of the 21st century is the golden era of contemporary metal/hardcore in my opinion. Bands like Norma Jean, Between the Buried and Me, August Burns Red, Parkway Drive, Unearth, Bury your Dead, Comeback Kid, As I Lay Dying, etc were bumping hard in my Mazda in the mid 2000's
We were the last off grid generation watching the new world being built around us, plugging everyone into it. Now everyone is a jellyfish being pushed around by the current thing.
0:26 I Used to Hate Cell Phones But Now I Hate Car Accidents 5:48 An Act of My Own Volition (Luti-Kriss) 10:46 The Shotgun Message 13:57 The Human Face, Divine 19:35 Face:Face 24:27 Memphis Will Be Laid To Waste 31:09 The "Anni Hilat" Ion (Luti-Kriss)
This video is a treasure. they hadn't even released bless the martyr and kiss the child yet (x It's so early 2000's underground metal. & they go so fucking nuts. literally everything i hoped early norma jean was like :P crazy nostalgia watching this.
This video shows exactly what the scene was like during the early 00's. The amazing part is that instead of paying 50$ -100$ dollars worth tickets and being so far away in the crowd, you could be right in front of the most amazing band. I miss these days.
Norma Jean: Mom can you drive me to the local Church hall for my show tonight? Mom: Sure honey, anything fun going on tonight? Norma Jean: Oh nothing mom, just improving on every band that ever came before us and re-envisioning and constructing an entire new genre of music that will stand the test of time for the next 50 years. Mom: Sounds good sugar!
I think this is more post-hardcore. While I think metal core was something of the late 80s and early to mid nineties - originally heavy hardcore from the NYC scene. @@friendlyfire782
@@DavidParket-g1h in my opinion its neither, this is what everyone called "screamo" back then. i'd hear grind-core, throw-down, beat-down used often too. its a mixture of these. this band is super unique, particularly this album. i agree its post-hardcore music essentially though.
22 years later and i still get chills watching these dudes do what they love. I just wish we could have gotten pretty soon somethings gonna happen live on tape somewhere
Botch, Coalece and Norma Jean, even Norma Jean (Lutakriss) was playing like this in the 90's, granted Norma Jean was 99 but they caught the tail end of it and took it to the next level. I grew up one town over from Douglasville and saw them so many times before their albums and before the name change, even played quite a few local shows with them on the bill. We all knew they were going to be huge and still proud of the mark they left of the entire scene worldwide.
Pure gold footage right here. I've already downloaded it and backed it on multiple HDDs just in case this source video gets removed one day. Don't worry, it's going right back online as soon as I notice. Thank you to the original camera operator. Perfect video
Their album before this under the band name Luti-Kriss was really good. I got into this ruckus music in 98’ with ZAO, and the same guy showed me Bless The Martyr in 02’ and I still like that album, but haven’t heard it in maybe a decade. I will probably listen to both those albums..
Several I'm sure. When this scene first started it shocked many people. At the time the heaviest stuff most people had heard was nu metal, then these guys in girl pants and eye liner would get up on stage and tear the fucking house down not just with brutal sound but the performance was always violent chaotic insanity. I saw my first post hardcore show in 2003, blew my fucking mind. Started my first post hardcore band in 2004. At the time the scene only existed in the big city. Me and my band brought the scene to the suburbs. We would play shows a couple times a month at a local coffee shop and we would get a lot of comments like "You guys dress like sissies I was not expecting you to be so hard! That was fucking awesome!" cause at the time the metal fashion was ridiculously baggy pants lol. My band ended up local celebrities, we were featured in several local newspaper articles and by my senior year of high school, there were large groups of "emos" at every school in town. Funny how we got labeled emos but none of those kids were listening to emo. We were all listening to hardcore and metal core.
NJ is my all time favorite band, I love every album they've done. Cory Brandan is phenomenal! But I'd pay big money to see the OG lineup perform this exact set one day
Knights of Columbus in Arlington Heights - so many mindblowing shows there. This was like a year or two before I ever heard Norma Jean in highschool the next town over. Wonderful to see this on video. Wish I had known, I could've gone. If I had done my chores, lol.
I love that the pastor or whoever signed off on a punk band playing their raging noise in the basement was probably like "nah, they're good. Just working through doubt or whatever. Don't worry about it.". I'm not religious and this band helped get me over a dumb prejudice against Christians.
Absolutely awesome! Love this video and seeing it years later and still getting chills with this album and this lineup. Love these guys. Thank you thank you for this video footage!
I went to many shows that looked exactly like this growing up...but none of the bands ever became Norma Jean 😉 too cool. Didn’t even close with Memphis - this is early stuff!
Jake Hadlock first time I heard of this band was was nov 26th 2005 Atlanta with as I lay dying MADBALL and a life once lost🤘. I was in line and everyone trash talked this band.
i was 22 and on my second deployment which was to Macedonia with the army. that was only 15 yrs ago....wow, when did time shed its wings and grow a jetpack?
this video belongs in the library of congress
More valuable than anything else in there lol
Ohhhhh yeah
so does that guitar flip at 15:04 - jesus christ man. i miss this so much. whenever i need to readjust my testosterone levels i come back to this video.
I love the chad with the sideways hat what a classic
Amen brother!!!
just a wednesday night at the church
wheres all the booze and mosh pit?
Benjamin Jones Kid Cadets even!
Bingo happening upstairs
You know the priest upstairs was pissing his pants
😂😂😂
As a lyricist, Josh was so deep at a young age. Such a forward thinker and a blessing for this genre.
I miss this Norma jean
Everything about their newer stuff is so much more....musically better lol and they still have that crazy energy in their music.
In the time both these comments were made, Norma Jean changed their lineup again and became a different band.
@@wallboi7 facts!
@@wallboi7 it’s not even the same band. 0 original members. Sounds nothing like the original sound. They need to rename themselves.
@@xavierquiles3037 I agree. Musically much better. I prefer the newer albums to bless the martyr. but there is no doubt that live, back in the day, this energy could not be beat. i mean this is goes beyond music, this is performance art.
Those people had NO clue they were watching metal history being made. Damn.
That’s how I feel now after watching Whitechapel’s first early shows in my hometown. We just didn’t know how big they would get
@@nickrandles1102 That's super cool!! But, Whitechapel doesn't even come close to Norma Jean lol
@nickrandles1102 I just wanted to say I think it's really cool that you saw Whitechapel in the og days. Sorry the dude above tried to act like it wasn't as cool as it was
I'm so intrigued by how this scene emerged at a time when nu-metal was the popular thing. I envy the fact that these kids went in such a different musical (and cultural) direction, while I was still wearing jncos and listening to Korn and Linkin Park. Fortunately, I discovered Norma Jean by 2004, and it dramatically changed my musical perspective for the better.
Well they were a nu-metal band before. They were called Luti-Kriss back then thou.
This scene is just the continuation of what they were doing in the 90's
Norma Jean's old stuff definitely had a nu metal thing to it. It was more like Deftones nu metal not Linkin fart nu metal
I loved Norma Jean back then but Botch and Coalesce were already doing this in the late 90's. Norma Jean kept it going though.
@@WillAlleymouth i love when ppl know their knowledge lol big thumbz up.. u can still kinda hear it in their sound in this album!
One of the best bands ever in modern heavy music.
Evan Merkle definitely dude, i cant listen to much of the newer bands. this is where it's at
TAYLØR PREVØST Too many breakdown bands, as I like to call em
No question. A cut above most everyone else.
@@flynnjaman honestly this band were one of the first “breakdown bands” afaik
@@artdamages there’s probably some truth to that, but I’d associate them with being creative in their execution. I think I was taking aim at a lot of bands that used the breakdown as more of a grove section, which seems different than NJ.
God I wish I could go back and introduce myself to the scene all over again.
The first decade of the 21st century is the golden era of contemporary metal/hardcore in my opinion.
Bands like Norma Jean, Between the Buried and Me, August Burns Red, Parkway Drive, Unearth, Bury your Dead, Comeback Kid, As I Lay Dying, etc were bumping hard in my Mazda in the mid 2000's
Robert Hill Norma Jean, 90s metalcore, ans MySpace grind are the peaks imo
Had Mazda 626 bumping this through Dayton Ohio use to love driving through the hood people looking at me crazy in my 20s good old days
I was doing the same in a Mazda Protege5 my dude.
And still the true fathers ZAO are left out once again...sad that more don't know about Zao...Norma knew who they were for sure!!
We were the last off grid generation watching the new world being built around us, plugging everyone into it. Now everyone is a jellyfish being pushed around by the current thing.
0:26 I Used to Hate Cell Phones But Now I Hate Car Accidents
5:48 An Act of My Own Volition (Luti-Kriss)
10:46 The Shotgun Message
13:57 The Human Face, Divine
19:35 Face:Face
24:27 Memphis Will Be Laid To Waste
31:09 The "Anni Hilat" Ion (Luti-Kriss)
Legend
Still one of the heaviest records ever written
I couldn't agree more. Simply and to the point. Just heavy as fuck.
And the distortion on the vocals is just perfect with the recording sound.
God bless the martyr and the dude that recorded this
I think Adam D from Killswitch produced & engineered it. 🐸🤓🤘✌️
Amen
Man... this is when they were a force of nature. This is some kind of next level that so many artists never achieve.
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
haeY
This video is a treasure. they hadn't even released bless the martyr and kiss the child yet (x It's so early 2000's underground metal. & they go so fucking nuts. literally everything i hoped early norma jean was like :P crazy nostalgia watching this.
This is my first time ever seeing this band after hearing their name a few times. holy shit this is insane
truly insane...they're so good tho...they get better and better the more you listen too
now THIS is the Norma Jean i remember and love..i saw them live in cleveland in 2002 at the agora... changed my freaking life.
This video shows exactly what the scene was like during the early 00's. The amazing part is that instead of paying 50$ -100$ dollars worth tickets and being so far away in the crowd, you could be right in front of the most amazing band. I miss these days.
My brother, if you were a 90's kids then why do you put the $ behind the number like a gen z zombie?
Most local shows literally still look like this 😂
Norma Jean: Mom can you drive me to the local Church hall for my show tonight?
Mom: Sure honey, anything fun going on tonight?
Norma Jean: Oh nothing mom, just improving on every band that ever came before us and re-envisioning and constructing an entire new genre of music that will stand the test of time for the next 50 years.
Mom: Sounds good sugar!
Bra glad you listening to this just about a week ago ... what an expose
They didn’t invent a new genre but they were definitely badass
@@billjim334one could argue they were a precursor to all the other metal core bands
@@taylerthompson7559 for sure.
I remember growing up going to shows like this. Amazing bands playing in churches, basements, VFWs.... so glad I have those memories
When my child is born this gonna be the first thing I show them
Lol
We could still be this genuine.
The crowd looks like they have no idea they're in the midst of legends
Early 2000s legend metalcore. You're cool!!
PTW
18Vs
I think this is more post-hardcore. While I think metal core was something of the late 80s and early to mid nineties - originally heavy hardcore from the NYC scene. @@friendlyfire782
@@DavidParket-g1h mathcore my friend
@@DavidParket-g1h in my opinion its neither, this is what everyone called "screamo" back then. i'd hear grind-core, throw-down, beat-down used often too. its a mixture of these. this band is super unique, particularly this album. i agree its post-hardcore music essentially though.
@@Anthony-kp7sf whatever it is youre right about the grindcore part
22 years later and i still get chills watching these dudes do what they love. I just wish we could have gotten pretty soon somethings gonna happen live on tape somewhere
MISSED THIS ERA OF MUSIC FOR THE ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST!!!
*my Jesus Christ is not a fashion.... Fading away.*
They don’t make music like this anymore I love me some old school Norma Jean. 🙏 dear God how I wish I was there in person.
Oh God knows this ages so good in the next 10 years of metalcore.
Botch, Coalece and Norma Jean, even Norma Jean (Lutakriss) was playing like this in the 90's, granted Norma Jean was 99 but they caught the tail end of it and took it to the next level.
I grew up one town over from Douglasville and saw them so many times before their albums and before the name change, even played quite a few local shows with them on the bill.
We all knew they were going to be huge and still proud of the mark they left of the entire scene worldwide.
This stuff is pure gold, old school Norma Jean. Thanks man.
Pure gold footage right here. I've already downloaded it and backed it on multiple HDDs just in case this source video gets removed one day. Don't worry, it's going right back online as soon as I notice. Thank you to the original camera operator. Perfect video
This is gold. I miss playing church halls. Reminds me of old Scott Shows in Baltimore!
I’m from Overlea East Baltimore but lived in Bel Air through my teen years. Do you remember XLooking ForwardX?
Scott from Kobra Klutch? I was there. 🤘
Kobra klutch shows m.d
“Church books Christian band for youth group event”
Hahahaha right?!?!
The video title MUST be changed to this.
15:05 i have watched that flip 100s of times at this point lmao
Their album before this under the band name Luti-Kriss was really good. I got into this ruckus music in 98’ with ZAO, and the same guy showed me Bless The Martyr in 02’ and I still like that album, but haven’t heard it in maybe a decade. I will probably listen to both those albums..
Prime Norma Jean I feel like 15 all over again watching this. Same feels as yesterday’s..
I would have to imagine at least ONE person in the audience was NOT expecting this at alllllll....
Several I'm sure. When this scene first started it shocked many people. At the time the heaviest stuff most people had heard was nu metal, then these guys in girl pants and eye liner would get up on stage and tear the fucking house down not just with brutal sound but the performance was always violent chaotic insanity.
I saw my first post hardcore show in 2003, blew my fucking mind. Started my first post hardcore band in 2004. At the time the scene only existed in the big city. Me and my band brought the scene to the suburbs. We would play shows a couple times a month at a local coffee shop and we would get a lot of comments like "You guys dress like sissies I was not expecting you to be so hard! That was fucking awesome!" cause at the time the metal fashion was ridiculously baggy pants lol. My band ended up local celebrities, we were featured in several local newspaper articles and by my senior year of high school, there were large groups of "emos" at every school in town. Funny how we got labeled emos but none of those kids were listening to emo. We were all listening to hardcore and metal core.
@@ooooswain you have any music out i wanna listen
NJ is my all time favorite band, I love every album they've done. Cory Brandan is phenomenal! But I'd pay big money to see the OG lineup perform this exact set one day
Little did they know they were watching one of the Godfathers of breakdowns and modern metal as we know it today.
Legends!! These kids will have always remembered this moment (one way or another😂). This original group is legendary to this day.
Face to face. Simply awesome
Scogin, one of the avengers!
Furnace Fest just completed it's last run and I'm being served this in my recommended. Life is great sometimes.
Knights of Columbus in Arlington Heights - so many mindblowing shows there. This was like a year or two before I ever heard Norma Jean in highschool the next town over. Wonderful to see this on video. Wish I had known, I could've gone. If I had done my chores, lol.
Nearly every weekend in Northern MD during the early 2000’s So much fun.
I am SHOCKED no one's head fell off thier neck in this one.
better than the Norma Jean of today
hahaha I was there and I look ridiculous. love it.
Whatever Jason. You know those were the best days of your life.
26:12 is the best part of the show.
this brings me back to 10th grade. 2002 was a great time
I loved youth group!
Once again the goat
I watch this video twice a month to help keep me strong lol. Cheers
Thank you for the upload
Takes me back....
why is nobody talking about his shoes
The music is more important thats why
mamityh real tawk
Ok, I’ll ask. What even are those??
Now this is taking me back many years, thanks for posting.
Thank you for this
pause at 0:35 is lethal
So glad I grew up while this was coming out. It transformed my musical tastes at the time. Love this video so much!
Lives were changed that night.
gracias por subir este video te quiero mucho
There used to be shows in churches all the time....i miss those days
This is so fucking raw. Holy shit.
I can hear the album man!!!!
I can hear studio.
I know I'd be okay being deaf..
Meanwhile at Youth Group.... :P
This is the norma jean I will always remember.
incledibly it sounds nice every instrument i cant believe it thanks men
I love that you found this footage
man I miss going to shows like this.
I love that the pastor or whoever signed off on a punk band playing their raging noise in the basement was probably like "nah, they're good. Just working through doubt or whatever. Don't worry about it.". I'm not religious and this band helped get me over a dumb prejudice against Christians.
Absolutely awesome! Love this video and seeing it years later and still getting chills with this album and this lineup. Love these guys. Thank you thank you for this video footage!
12:28 is me for the love of this band. Yeah!!!! Fuck youuuu...fuck meee.
This video is amazing!
Thank you so much for putting this up! Have been looking for it since 04. This is one of the reasons to make film
+Flynn Papandrea this is inspirational
this reminds me of the Obama Obama's zzzzzzz
Joseph Plexx what are you talking?
I don't know I don't even remember typing that lol 0_o
musta been god
I went to many shows that looked exactly like this growing up...but none of the bands ever became Norma Jean 😉 too cool. Didn’t even close with Memphis - this is early stuff!
Jake Hadlock first time I heard of this band was was nov 26th 2005 Atlanta with as I lay dying MADBALL and a life once lost🤘. I was in line and everyone trash talked this band.
What a moment in time
Memphis is GOAT. Norma is GOAT.True spirit of music and rockenergy.
Thank you for uploading this. This is incredible.
15 year later, massive respect to the dude who got this on his cell phone camera.
no way a cell phone cam from 02 could record this well
absolutely no way
Just a digital camera or handheld camcorder, I imagine. I used to take them to shows around this time.
Cell phone, lol - there's footage of like 5 different guys holding up mini-8 cams... that's probably how this was recorded.
No way in hell
they're tearing it the fuck apart!! good shit.
Best video ever
Floor shows are the BEST!!
The days of no SoundCloud. Get your ass out there and get noticed
And get noticed they absolutely did
God bless.
Looks like the Knights of Columbus hall in Arlington Heights. Great spot.
Back when he was rippin' that Orange Fernandes guitar. Damn this was prime NJ
Man that entire album is what dreams are made of.. These people have no idea what they are witnessing.
It’s crazy they were opening for Bleeding Through & in a church 😂 the 00’s were wild
"This is our second to last song" lol, how many singers have ever announced that!
God damn I love this band. Theyre SO FUCKING into it!!!
This one goes out to Super Mario Bros
Every band that played at an America legion tried to be like this band
Now I remember what made me start wearing my girlfriends jeans.
Holy shit is this at Arlington Heights KOC?
Yes it is!
The Shotgun Message live is just insane!!!
Best video on #Google
#1
The Crucifix in the back of the room is crazy! Hahaha
So many shows were in churches. I remember one with nuns selling hotdogs , snacks and sodas.
can't believe i was born the month of this video
Love it in the church fellowship hall
And this is called real NJ
i would give my soul to be there omg
what song is playing a 4:36?
“I Used to Hate Cell Phones but Now I Hate Car Accidents”
i was 22 and on my second deployment which was to Macedonia with the army. that was only 15 yrs ago....wow, when did time shed its wings and grow a jetpack?
weird flex but ok
@@hqbattery you're original
Looks like so much fun