Brilliant video. I did the belts on my Multistrada and the top left pulley is hard to mark, I must have been a tooth out and running rough so watched your video for any tips on timing and you gave me the ultimate eureka moment!! The cam pulleys have a T shape that as a pair point up and there it was, a tooth out. Thank you ever so much as I was in proper head scratch stressed mode. Top man 👌🏻👍🏻
Thanks Brad. Very informative. I'm doing some research in preparation for 848 ownership (tomorrow - yeehah). You don't know it but you are now my mechanic lol. I(Unless I can find Leigh Farrell's number :) ) I'll drop in next week. Cheers Mark
Great video thanks. I was reading the 821 motor belt change procedure according to the Ducati w/shop manual and it says/shows to use a camshaft lock tool to hold the camshaft and crankshaft (with another locking tool) relationship in time. Then the camshaft sprockets should be loosened on the three sprocket holding screws, so that the sprocket can move on the slotted holes. Once this is all arranged then the belt tension is adjusted. This makes good sense, since all tension influence from the camshafts etc. is removed from the belt. After the tension is set then one tightens the camshaft bolts up, removes the tools and all is done. This also allows for the timing to be perfectly reset each time and is also the method used for timing VW TDI engines. I don't see anyone using these camshaft locking tools though. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks a lot for all the effort in making these videos.
i talk about this in one of the 696 videos - ua-cam.com/video/GfAkys0uDp8/v-deo.html - about 2 minutes in. i don't do it that way, for reasons explained in the video.
Thanks alot for this video. I should have watched it before I did my Multistrada belts instead of a different one. I was very concerned I had the timing slightly out but looks like my T shaped markings are all pointing the tight way, pretty much. Think I have confidence to start the bike now. One question, do you think its critical to replace the tensioner nuts?
I have to do this too, plus a few more things. What order would you suggest I do everything? I'm prepping to change oil, oil filter, battery, cam belts, air filter, spark plugs, & tires. Is there anyway to cut out unnecessary steps.
spark plugs need to be out to rotate the engine, but the deepest you go is to get to the air filter pretty much. with all that it's probably due for a coolant change too, and you need all the front and air runners off to get to the radiator cap. it'll be fairly obvious once you get in there.
Hi, great video. Question regarding the base camshaft positioning. I am debating whether or not to get the camshaft center tool that apparently locks the cams in the correct positions prior to installing the belts. Do you know if I can VISUALLY set the camshaft center slots to point towards top of cylinder head at the Horizontal cylinder TDC? Or is there too much room for error? Thanks!
before you remove the belts, line up the dot on the timing shaft pulley with the slot on the primary drive cover and, with your eyes open, have a good look at where the cams are and how the slots on the ends sit, etc. it's really obvious. you can certainly use the slots. or make marks that make sense to you. just do whatever you need to do to not make a mess of it come belt refit time. i wouldn't bother with any tools, but if you're concerned, do whatever you need to.
@race5050r1 mate my method is use a degree wheel with the motor rotator. 1.Find horizontal TDC on pulley, zero your wheel to "TDC" 2.Strip first belt- horizontal. 3.Rotate Counterclockwise 270° 4. Vertical cylinder should be at TDC. 5. Strip/refit belt- vertical. 6. Take up slack in tensioner set to frequency/ torque 7. Rotate clockwise 270° 8. Fit belt- horizontal 9. Take up slack in tensioner, set tension value. Rotate again for vertical cylinder tension test, and your set, have a cuppa!
@@thediddly Thanks for the info. I have the motor completely disassembled. I’ll use degree wheel to find TDC’s. Motor is still all apart. Took several months to get my crankshaft repaired and re-ground. So once I find TDC’s I have to make sure camshafts are positioned correctly. How do I position camshafts besides visually making sure slots are pointing upward? Thx!
@@race5050R1 different options here. As a block, TDC can be found with a block mounted piston stop. Effectively stopping the piston prior to TDC dwell and using the degree wheel, stop the piston against the "strap" read the wheel, turn the other direction until the piston touches. Whatever reading you have, add the 2 values, then divide by 2 to get your TDC value. Doing it with the heads on is the same process. I made a spark plug stopper the other day on Instagram: @darius_to_the_maximus Now these all give you TDC, but remember, you need to find if it's TDC for ignition, or for exhaust! Very important as your timing could be 180 degrees off. I can't advise any further as i have never been that deep i a ducati
when the dot is pointing toward the front wheel, @ 3 o'clock, however you want to describe it. put something long and thin down the plug hole and feel the piston movement.
Superb. The info I need, no flannel, no jabber, just quick and as it is.
Thanx Brad , very informative and really helpful clip . This will be my second time changing belts on my 1200 .
Thank you so much !! Great and very illustrative video, starting tension my 888 belts tomorrow !! 👍🏾👍🏾
Brilliant video. I did the belts on my Multistrada and the top left pulley is hard to mark, I must have been a tooth out and running rough so watched your video for any tips on timing and you gave me the ultimate eureka moment!! The cam pulleys have a T shape that as a pair point up and there it was, a tooth out. Thank you ever so much as I was in proper head scratch stressed mode. Top man 👌🏻👍🏻
Glad it helped
Excellent info as usual bloke,appreciated by all im sure
Excellent instructive video. Shall be doing my 999 soon following your method.
Excellent video and detail.
Great info mate
Thanks Brad. Very informative. I'm doing some research in preparation for 848 ownership (tomorrow - yeehah). You don't know it but you are now my mechanic lol. I(Unless I can find Leigh Farrell's number :) )
I'll drop in next week. Cheers Mark
Moral to the story, belt tension changes every revaluation.
Wild shit mate
I have a 2011 848 Evo. I took the belts off and forgot to to mark the pulleys. Gonna try your method here and hopefully it works
What iPhone app did you use for the frequency measurement? The apps I've tried to freeze the Hz long enough for me to see what it is.
n-track tuner or gates carbon drive.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Is the tension pulley torque 25Nm standard across all the testastratta engines? What brand belts do you use?
anything that is an m8 thread is 25nm. i am the australian distributor for california cycleworks products, so i usually use the exactfit belts.
@@bradthebikeboy Thought so! Thank you.
Great video thanks. I was reading the 821 motor belt change procedure according to the Ducati w/shop manual and it says/shows to use a camshaft lock tool to hold the camshaft and crankshaft (with another locking tool) relationship in time. Then the camshaft sprockets should be loosened on the three sprocket holding screws, so that the sprocket can move on the slotted holes. Once this is all arranged then the belt tension is adjusted. This makes good sense, since all tension influence from the camshafts etc. is removed from the belt. After the tension is set then one tightens the camshaft bolts up, removes the tools and all is done. This also allows for the timing to be perfectly reset each time and is also the method used for timing VW TDI engines. I don't see anyone using these camshaft locking tools though. What are your thoughts on this? Thanks a lot for all the effort in making these videos.
i talk about this in one of the 696 videos - ua-cam.com/video/GfAkys0uDp8/v-deo.html - about 2 minutes in. i don't do it that way, for reasons explained in the video.
Thanks alot for this video. I should have watched it before I did my Multistrada belts instead of a different one. I was very concerned I had the timing slightly out but looks like my T shaped markings are all pointing the tight way, pretty much. Think I have confidence to start the bike now. One question, do you think its critical to replace the tensioner nuts?
i would only replace the nuts if the hex is damaged, or won't torque (never seen that happen).
I have to do this too, plus a few more things. What order would you suggest I do everything? I'm prepping to change oil, oil filter, battery, cam belts, air filter, spark plugs, & tires. Is there anyway to cut out unnecessary steps.
spark plugs need to be out to rotate the engine, but the deepest you go is to get to the air filter pretty much. with all that it's probably due for a coolant change too, and you need all the front and air runners off to get to the radiator cap. it'll be fairly obvious once you get in there.
Well Good Tutorial, Need to ask is the belts change of a 2017 Diavel Gen 2 Testastretta Twin Spark are the Same procedure? (Not DVT) Tks
should be yes.
Nice video; this applies to a 2017 Monster 1200s also?
yes. can't think of anything different.
Hi, great video. Question regarding the base camshaft positioning. I am debating whether or not to get the camshaft center tool that apparently locks the cams in the correct positions prior to installing the belts. Do you know if I can VISUALLY set the camshaft center slots to point towards top of cylinder head at the Horizontal cylinder TDC? Or is there too much room for error? Thanks!
before you remove the belts, line up the dot on the timing shaft pulley with the slot on the primary drive cover and, with your eyes open, have a good look at where the cams are and how the slots on the ends sit, etc. it's really obvious. you can certainly use the slots. or make marks that make sense to you. just do whatever you need to do to not make a mess of it come belt refit time. i wouldn't bother with any tools, but if you're concerned, do whatever you need to.
@@bradthebikeboyThanks for the tips. I should be able to work it out then.
@race5050r1 mate my method is use a degree wheel with the motor rotator.
1.Find horizontal TDC on pulley, zero your wheel to "TDC"
2.Strip first belt- horizontal.
3.Rotate Counterclockwise 270°
4. Vertical cylinder should be at TDC.
5. Strip/refit belt- vertical.
6. Take up slack in tensioner set to frequency/ torque
7. Rotate clockwise 270°
8. Fit belt- horizontal
9. Take up slack in tensioner, set tension value.
Rotate again for vertical cylinder tension test, and your set, have a cuppa!
@@thediddly Thanks for the info. I have the motor completely disassembled. I’ll use degree wheel to find TDC’s. Motor is still all apart. Took several months to get my crankshaft repaired and re-ground. So once I find TDC’s I have to make sure camshafts are positioned correctly. How do I position camshafts besides visually making sure slots are pointing upward? Thx!
@@race5050R1 different options here.
As a block, TDC can be found with a block mounted piston stop. Effectively stopping the piston prior to TDC dwell and using the degree wheel, stop the piston against the "strap" read the wheel, turn the other direction until the piston touches. Whatever reading you have, add the 2 values, then divide by 2 to get your TDC value.
Doing it with the heads on is the same process. I made a spark plug stopper the other day on Instagram: @darius_to_the_maximus
Now these all give you TDC, but remember, you need to find if it's TDC for ignition, or for exhaust! Very important as your timing could be 180 degrees off. I can't advise any further as i have never been that deep i a ducati
Hello. How do you find the tdc of the vertical cylinder looking at the crankshaft pulley?
when the dot is pointing toward the front wheel, @ 3 o'clock, however you want to describe it. put something long and thin down the plug hole and feel the piston movement.
Hello,
Would you be kind to share the app name you use for Hz measurement?
Thank you.
n-track tuner, easy tension, gates carbondrive
ton tuto pour toi c'est Ok, mais un peu limite pour embarqué des novices la dedans, c'est limite.,