The Flawed Case of Charles Erickson
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- In 2001 what happened to journalist Kent Heitholt remained unsolved. However, Charles Erickson couldn’t remember what he did that night, and two years later Charles Erickson had a dream, which would incriminate both him and his friend Ryan Ferguson who were out that night.
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Again, this is why you NEVER sit through an interrogation without an attorney present.
I agree with you but… some people think that it shows a guilty conscience. Or they are just ignorant of their rights. But yeah definitely if you think there is any chance you might be guilty. Lawyer up.
Even if you ARE innocent, you still don't talk without a lawyer
@@thepsychonaut6395 💯 agree though it never ceases to amaze me that detectives aren't aware of the fact that innocent people hear of wrongful convictions, & well, watch stories like this one, to know that even though they're innocent, it's best to cover their *ss & ask for an attorney. Therefore, in the eye of the detective, that just makes the person look more guilty, & in cases like this, can make a bad cop get tunnel vision, essentially stop any legitimate investigation, & merely make the evidence fit their assumed conclusion that the person is guilty. Only adding to the case log of The Innocent Project.
I commend a prosecutor or cop when they are man/woman enough to not only recognize a mistake in convicting an innocent person, but taking the rightful & necessary steps to correct the injustice. Unfortunately though, this is rare. & more often then not, prosecutors & cops, DA's, what have you, double down on their mistake, furthering the injustice through illegal, or at the very least, immoral actions to cover up their error & actively work to keep a knowingly innocent person locked up.
Incomprehensible, though tragically too common.
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Exactly. Be aware if LAZY Cops. None will go the extra mile......scary!!!!
They didn’t want justice, they wanted a conviction by any means necessary.
There’s a big difference between the justice system and the legal system..
They wanted to meet their quota
😭😭😭
So many innocent people in prison for that very reason.
It’s disturbing as hell… stuff of nightmares, that is..
Imagine going to prison because your friend had a bad dream
Right? In all of the stories covered on this channel I think that part is the most baffling and rage-inducing, can't even imagine being in Ryan's position after the sentencing there. His entire life gone over literally nothing other than being friends with a moron, sure he got released later but in that moment it must have taken an insane amount of control not to rip Chuck's arm off and beat him with it.
Ikr! Reminds me of a crazy girlfriend I once had who was mad at me because she had a dream that I banged her sister and her best friend. Like, WTF? Lol
that dream cost him 10 years of his life only to come out with 11 million dollars..
It sounds like something out of a Dumb and Dumber movie. More like one friend is dumb, and the other is not. The not dumb guy gets screwed because of one crazy dream. Wtf man.
@@damionmurray1765 I literally came to the comment section to write the exact same thing.
Hey Mike! I am from Missouri and have family in Columbia and surrounding areas. This case was heartbreaking (and still is honestly) unfortunately, the corruption and lies by the authorities as well as their infringement on our Constitutional rights is all too common. Thanks for telling this truth! (And for all that you share! ❤️
The real murderer is like "whattt!? I cant beieve im getting away this easy! Who are Those guys?"
Lol he did really commit the perfect crime when some jackass admits to it 😂
This comment is severely underrated
Totally
I think Michael did it the guy who said saw him last
"He strangled him with his hands?"
"No try again"
"A shirt?"
"No try again"
"A bungie cord or a rope?"
"No try again"
"I don't know then..."
"Could it have been a belt?"
"Oh, I guess so?"
"We got him boys!"
-Great detective work.
Multiple choice next time?
That officer should serve some time in jail IMO.
It’s literally Ned Flanders conducting the interrogation. I lost it at “hind end”.
I can just imagine him going home and talking to his wife that night:
“Golly, Beth… I had to be a bad man today. The gee-diddley-Jesus surely didn’t look down on this sorry servant today with a smile.”
His wife- in a Minnesota accent:
“I like when you’re bad. Why don’t ya get my hind-end in trouble.”
Speaks volumes doesn’t it?
Haha even police chief Wiggum could have done a better job that that incompetent moron.
Unbelievable and scary that such incompetence exists in the police force.
It’s strange that a police man would tell a suspect how someone was murdered when the crime was still under investigation. It’s like the suspect was spoon-feed the details so the case could be closed.
Yep because that's what happened. He spoon fed the boy the details so he could close the case.
And he wouldn't be the first.
Literally the exact opposite of protocol.. usually they hold back the evidence, let you lock yourself into a story, then reveal that you're lying. And at that point you are screwed.
This seems to be the opposite. They tell you the evidence, let you meander through your story, then correct what you got wrong. And at THAT point your friend is screwed! Weird PD.
@@TrineDaely Nor the last.
same thing that happened in the steven avery case. but UPDATE Charles Erickson was paroles January 2023!! but needs this erased and needs to get paid for all the time he has lost. n9body gets paroles this soon convicted of murder but ppl know he is innocent.
The cop in the interview is THE stereotypical cop. Officers like him are why cops have a bad rep.
Oh yeah and the ones that kill people u know
It’s like he learned “how to cop” from bad cop shows. He’s feeding him information about the crime that he didn’t know before.
They are also the reason why guilty people walk free
Detective Plaid Shirt & Sweater Vest? Oy!!
What are you talking about? Officers like him comprise the majority
This is so sad. Charles had a good heart. He didn’t even know if he did it, but was honest with police bc he felt guilty. It’s scary to think about how many other naive people have been manipulated into thinking that they are murderers.
Especially with manipulative and lazy police and detectives.
Yeah thats really investigation techniques gone wrong
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. problem is they can get higher ranked by getting a confession thats why they try everything to get this
I recommend to watch the netflix series "Confesion tapes" A lot of people confes stuff even when they didnt do it.
After hours in an interrogation, especially based around something you dont remember, it can feel easy to go along with the narrative the detectives are taking you- once you agree, you have just supplied prosecutors with exhibit 1. Even if not agreed to, it can be hard for people to believe anyone would ever confess to something they did not do, but it does happen, like alot, and the fact that he roped someone else into it is scary. An admission is not as bullet proof as people believe, but good luck convincing a jury who is going to determine guilty until convinced otherwise
Note to self: avoid telling random 'friends' about dreams which involve me committing heinous acts of wanton debauchery and/or murder.
Mike! I hope 'Netflix' commissions you to make a few seasons of these crime vignettes. As always, thanks for the excellent content.
Keith Devlin is that you Norm Macdonald?
Word.
Agreed! Also, your Turdy turd like 😂🖤
@@britneysbritannia4790 Hahaha. Thanks Britney! Next stop, TREE hundred and TURDY~TREE!!
@@keithdevlin1 right on, 😂 got to love him! 🖤
Oh my goodness! The smile on Ryan's face when he was set free🤗
Holy crap I remember this. I was actually questioned about this murder case because I resembled the sketch. Apparently someone I was in college with called the police and said I looked like the sketch. They did a full blown investigation on me. Luckily I was on the phone with my girlfriend at the time, and they pulled my phone records to verify. It was crazy!
Damn. Lucky to have been on the phone especially with these shady cops!
I think someone's at your door...
That guy is an idiot
Wow scary shit 🥵
Holy schnikey!
Ryan is a real one for trying to help Charles, but damn Charles fucked up by not believing him when he told him they didn’t have nothing to do with it
Yeah I would never forgive him for screwing my life for 10 years just because he had a bad dream
@@secretunknown253 he got 11 million that way too. Life is fucked up and in this case it was a honest mistake.
@@ganiniii I’ll make sure to never be your friend lol
@@ganiniii I agree. It was an honest mistake. This man was paranoid and thinking that he did something. He thought he killed someone and felt bad about it. And he made up partially for that mistake by making sure he took back what he said about Ryan and he has 11 million dollars for it
@@ganiniii 11 million is worth 10 fucking years of your life?
Don’t ever, ever, never, EVER talk to police. No matter the situation, saying anything in the context of a police “interview” other than “I’d like to speak to my lawyer” is the worst thing a person, (even an “innocent“ person) could do. The system is set up so that this legally can NOT and will not ever help you.
Exactly!
Yes, always ask for (demand) a lawyer and say nothing else until you get consul
I quote "CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU IN A COURT OF LAW" yea too many laws on the books you could easily implicate yourself without knowing it.
if you are not a suspect it might be wise to answer simple questions that may help, but you should educate yourself with videos by Jim Cant Swim and others so that you recognize when they are trying to manipulate/suggest you are guilty of something. at that point you politely you say "i am innocent, so this line of questioning is making me a little uncomfortable, please let me speak with a lawyer and i will be glad to help you further". the point being you want to be helpful if possible. immediately trying to lawyer up over basic questions (when you are not a suspect) might raise suspicion
Lenora your tipp will spare some murderers imprisonments as well. You know that, right? Some of them got already away with it and some other will, because they didn’t say a word and lawyered up, thanks to people like you and your kind. there are a lot of criminals and they are looking & watching these kind of videos and learning how to perfect their crimes and then to get away with it.
This is terribly sad for innocent people who are locked away for life.
I wanna call the station even though this is old but this detective was a fucking piece of shit and it boils my blood.
Charles was a moron that apparently wanted to go to jail and screw with an active investigation. the only innocent person was his friend who got dragged into this.
@@TonyaB005 What does that have to do with anything I said? Time to put down the crack sweety.
@@TonyaB005 ROFL. You replied to me with a dumb comment and I called you out to be the moron that you are. How is that Harassment? Go find your safe space.
Ryan’s father is the hero in this story. The love in that man’s eyes is next level💕
Talk about “leading”. Horrible interviewers. Was hard to watch. 😩🤬
It is SO painful watching the lazy ass cops that do this in these vids. You can tell they really don't care if the right person goes away or not. They just want to shut the case and get everyone off their backs.
@@EllaJaneBinks I agree to many cops are corrupt and are basically bullies with badges I've had horrible experiences with cops when I was in high-school someone literally made up a lie about me and a cop harassed and threatened me when I never broke any rules when it was proven the kid lied the cop still talked shit that's just a short summary they did much worse one of the many reasons I don't trust police i respect the law just not all the people enforcing it. Sorry for the rant.
@@bluedogviking that sounds terrible!! I personally have never had the cops do anything like that to me but I have heard some really terrible stories about them doing it. Also there is plenty of video evidence that shows how corrupt they can be at times. There are good and bad everywhere but it's just so sad that there seem to be so many bad ones in a job role that requires people to really want to see proper justice done. Not just put away whoever is easiest ):
@@bluedogviking I'm with ya on that, went thru a sketchy situation myself while I was in college. My appartment was broken into while I was out of town, my neighbor heard and called the cops. Who actually got there in time to catch the guys. I rushed back, and when I got there my place was crawling with cops.... who were tossing my appartment and wouldn't let me in. When I asked what the deal, a detective told me they were looking to see what was missing, as if they had any clue what I had before the robbery. In reality they were searching my place because they found a box with rolling papers and bong, and nothing else.... which was hidden and not found or taken by robbers, but by the cops. Then the detective tried to flip the whole thing on me and say it was all drug related my fault, like I was some big time dope dealer cause I had papers. So Anyways I went from victim whose place was smashed in and cleaned out, to the criminal at blame in 2 sec flat. Det started threatening to charge me with possession of "paraphernalia" and other charges.... I said like what, cause all he had was the paraphernalia. He just kept on and tried to convince me I was screwed if I didnt, and get this, wear a wire and try to purchase drugs! Told him no way, and he said I'll give you a week to think it over and contact you for an answer. If I didn't agree, I would be fully charged. He called a week later, during finals week. By this time I was already pissed all my stuff got jacked, I hadn't gotten anything back even tho they caught the guys minutes after the ran from my apartment and I told the det I ain't got time for this... I'm in the middle of finals and hell no I ain't wearing no wire! So you can kiss my ass and charge me with whatever he had(which was nothing) or leave me alone. Never heard from him again. But my thoughts were, these other poor kids probably fall for this bs all the time or these sorry detectives wouldn't even try to push this crap, and that sucks! Btw, still never got any of my property back. Know the law, know your rights, and definitely know a bs misdemeanor charge of paraphernalia is the stupidest thing any detective could ever hold over anyone to get them to snitch, lol!
David James, I was pissed! Raising his voice like that. REVOLTING!
Moral of the story: do not talk to the police during an interrogation without a lawyer present.
EXACTLY!! Someone (Ryan, maybe?) needs to put this on a t-shirt, coffee mugs, bumper stickers......just mass-market it on everything. This story is so crazy & scary as hell!!!! The moral of this story is 2-fold!! NEVER talk to the police w/out an attorney present & NEVER mix your cocaine w/ Adderall 😳😜!! Who knew it could make you confess to a murder you & your friend NEVER committed??!!😱😱😱
As a mother of 3 teenage boys this is horrifying!!!!!!!
SHAME on all the adults that ruined these boys lives. Kids are stupid and depend on adults to HELP them. This hurt my heart so much I just googled the kid (now adult) to see if there was a defense fund and found out he was paroled 1/9/2023. My gosh. 20 years lost. 💔
Witness: They were college-age kids.
Sketch artist: *draws a nine-year-old*
Sketch artist: Nailed it.
Lmao!!🤣👍
Lol I was thinking that sketch looked exactly like me when I was a kid
One thing about those sketches is there meant to be somewhat ambiguous. This is intentional.
Right, I thought is was a cartoon version! Did they get a boardwalk caricature artist to come in that day cus the normal sketch artist was out?!
@@victoriacervantes9239 they do a mix between caricature and photo realism. The reason why is to exaggerate features that would immediately identify the suspect/victim.
Always. ALWAYS have an attorney present when talking to the Police. Guilt or innocence is irrelevant. Investigators are always like water down a hill,the path of least resistance. A twisted cop and/or bent prosecutor and you are screwed.
I would like to see charles get a proper psych evaluation. He is building a story in his mind based on a dream, and influence from others. Kinda like how a schizophrenic builds their delusions.
I see a lot of other comments calling him dumb, but there has to be more to it than stupidity. He truly believed what he was told.
Yeah, I've been wondering myself he's very vulnerable and highly suggestible. I think that's why his friend Ryan hasn't given up on him.
By the way he speaks.. I would not consider him dumb.. delusional, maybe, but that might be due to some stress or other factors that occured in his life at that time. He clearly did not do it although he believes he did, that's crazy to me. It's so weird.
He has behaviors that are concerning, and you may have hit the nail on the head.
Whatever it is, he needs an evaluation, at least see a psychologist, an expert who can recognize what's going on with him.
Anyway, a cruel manipulator like the interviewing detective may have the ability to get to the kid's weaknesses, and just play him like a piano ...
He is easily manipulated
i honestly thought he was on the spectrum...
I was in a police interrogation room many times as a young man and if any cop had me pinned in a corner talking at me like that I would have assaulted them to get them to back off (and taken the beating and extra charge that would result. I've had beatings from them for less) that is nothing but intimidation and bullying. Thankfully I mended my ways after a couple of shortish prison terms and got on with life. This poor bloke should never have even been in that room.
That kid's audition in the beginning was the perfect explanation to how this whole situation happened.
It caught me off guard and made me laugh so hard.
My husband was in law enforcement for 30 years. He always says. Don’t talk to the po po without a lawyer. Ever
Why anyone in America would speak to the cops without a lawyer present is beyond my understanding.
I'm from Missouri and I remember when all of this was going on. Ryan's father fight with everything he had for his son's innocence. This really was and still is a sad situation. I can't believe how crooked police, prosecutors and judges can be.
11:32 if a cop ever ever interrupts me in an interrogation room by saying "now listen" , i will repeat " you better listen, when i want to talk to a lawyer" Next question of mine would be "am i detained, or am i free to go?" period. no matter how often he tries to interrupt me.
Imagine how different this "Detectives" attitude and behaviour would have been if there was a lawyer present in the room 🤷♂️💀
That kid saying "you-, you-, y- you, you-.." trips me out every time.. It makes me feel like I'm slowly melting into another dimension (it would sound even better with gradually-added, intense echo, distortion, and Hell-noises)..
I'm in tears over that kid. He's a whole state of mind that I know WELL 😂
AGREE!!
Who is that kid? that was hilarious.
Bruh I just feel bad for him he’s going through so many stages of confusion he’s probably nervous asf
There's a rap song called mellow yellow by dumbfounded that uses it as a sample. Enjoy.
Kathleen is a literal angel sent to earth..thank GOD for this woman. We just need to clone her a few million times.
Yeah, now she’s thrown away all her efforts by taking Steven Avery’s case 🤢🤮
You tryna buy 4 million packs of smokes a day?
@@frankie1012
Who’s Steven Avery?
@@frankie1012 why tho? honest question, i haven't seen the second part of the docu series or heard anything lately. did he really do it?
@@barbaraseymour3437 he is a guy framed for murder so the State did not have to pay him millions from the prior case they set him up for and he was proven to be innocent.
Scary knowing there's many, many more cops with no business in that profession. Oh, GED, 18 yrs old, ego, testosterone overload, aggressive attitude, no record? You're hired! Take this gun & viewpoint you're above everyone & everything & don't forget, have fun out there
Ryan is an amazing person... Still wanting to help him even tho he basically destroyed his life (unintentionally, but still).
I'm not going to say I'd volunteer to prison for 7 years or whatever it was for 11 million, but I think many people would. In any case not sure Ryan would say his life was ruined
Ryan is guilty as all hell.
@@opieutt9038 why do you think that?
@@opieutt9038 as guilty as you are limited
I feel so sorry for Charles. So tormented from drugs and mental health issues to then be vulnerable and manipulated into believing something that wasn't even true by the professionals that used and abused that.
Charles: "I don't know what else to do..."
Me: CALL A LAWYER, SHUT UP!
This can easily be explained by some sort of intrusive/obssesional thoughts like in ocd. He blacked out, woke up hungover, and felt like shit and got noided he did something terrible. He probably fried some receptors and saw that event and boom, his brain just ran with it. It happens often, and it happens to me. You can also tell there's a bit of hypochondriac anxiety where he says he woke up feeling psychotic. Most people don't even realize they are psychotic, and if it was his first break due to all the drugs, it is likely he would have had another during those two years. This is so sad.
Yep and it's especially exacerbated by using speed.
Insightful comment
Yes! I have OCD myself and have experienced this. I think it's a part of OCD that people aren't always aware is a symptom-- the obsession over whether or not you did something, the inability to trust yourself and your own memory/logic. It can be as simple as "Did I lock the door?" and needing to check it over and over. Or there's people who see a hit and run on the news and think "I went that way. Did I hit that person?" and obsess to the point of checking every inch of their car and even needing to drive out to the scene of the crime, sometimes multiple times. This kept popping into my head while watching this case.
Hyperchondriacal anxiety, definitely a result of the cocaine and adderall. Constricts the blood vessels and makes you very temperamental and easily swayed emotionally. Then introduce alcohol to the mix and black outs happen very quickly where more drinking occurs without realization and relative ease. Abusing drugs is bad kids....
This, man. My best friend, when he got too fucked up, always felt guilty. To be fair, he has embarrassed himself while drunk before, but it's like his mind is conditioned to feel guilty before he even knows what he did.
A good example: he called up an old friend while blacked out and apologized for some minor dispute. Woke up the next morning, and was convinced for days on end he had caused some major damage to their relationship even when seeing the texts from afterward. Of course, he did nothing wrong, but I really think some people have this mentality where even if they save 10 children from a burning building, if they were drunk, well they must have caused the fire lol.
It's sad really and probably has to do with an addicts mindset. It's just so sad the kid in the video had this happen all because of misplaced guilt.
That prosecutor deserves to spend the time they spent in prison added together in some horrible facility full of the people he got convicted, that would be fun to watch.
He's a judge now. How fkt up is that?
I was just going to say that. Its very scary knowing Kevin Crane is a judge here in Columbia!
@@pamingles2753 We need to summon the equalizer for some sweet sweet street justice. Set the timer to fifty hours. That's how long it takes to die from a torn off ballsack hemmorage
@Jojo Biscuit wa thank you, I do have a keen eye for the better things in life. When it comes to castration, I do have a preference for the forced at gun point, self inflicted type using blunt rocks, but I must say the quicker, one hand grab with a swift straight downward pull has it's appeal, you do get to grab him by the balls, but what if he has a tiny yet firm sack full of tought nerves, or if the sack bears but tiny pea sized gonads, you won't get a firm grip on that, you lose the handle effect, and might get into two or ever tbree attempt territory, which is just not as cathartic as ripping it neatly off in one go, left with a tiny purse of man leather in your hand for you to contemplate, as the summer wind blows gently against your yet intact manhood (that's why you go naked under a whool kilt for this).
No but for real though, I would never to this.
A hot panini maker would do the job much cleaner. I'd watch that. Everybody would watch that.
Happy for Ryan. But still really sad for Kent Heitholt. Who murdered Kent? Need justice for Kent.
first time ever that i’ve skipped past the interrogation clip(s)... dude was pissing me off
same
I was cursing the man. Absolutely infuriating when he got in Charles' face.
It’s as if the interrogator was angry at the kid for something that had nothing to do with the murder. Maybe for being a kid.. maybe the interrogator has a son.. maybe he’s transferring that anger onto Charles. Just maybe
Same
Hey Mike thanks for bringing this case to the publics attention, maybe you will have a part in freeing Ryan, Can’t think of a better deed, Howdy from Australia👍🏝
Biggest lesson I've learned from watching literally anything on the judicial system is never willingly speak to the police and always ask for a lawyer haha but this guy being so guilty even when he's innocent is painful to watch... Like imagine that level of anxiety... Jesus
So, I've had super vivid, horrifying dreams that have been difficult to separate from reality. I think the same thing happened to Charles, and knowing he couldn't recall the events from that night, he was terrified he did something horrible.
Well yours was either real or you also have a major drug problem and need to cut back. Because that is not normal even for people that use drugs. Otherwise you wouldn't see any drugs outside of prison. Everyone on drugs would confess to something and be in prison not common at all. If he was the type to of done it in this situation, he would not also be the good type to randomly confess. Specially not a couple years later.
@@michaelkabler9276
Since when is having vivid dreams exclusively linked to using drugs? It's not. 100% sober dreams, still vivid, still terrifying at times.
Your reply makes no sense, so I wonder if you've got the wrong person?
@@bubbles0216 I just meant that not knowing the dreams are not real within a short time is not normal. Yes for a vary short time after the dream it seems real. But shortly After waking up we end up figuring out it was just a dream. Not days or years later. I mean this guy used way way too many drugs for way to long obviously. So reality is blurred for him much much longer. Maybe forever if he don't stop using drugs and get everything strait in his head. That would take more than a year to do I'm sure.
Why is that interview room bile green?! That cop clearly thinks he's the epitome of all interrogation techniques. You can't give your suspect a cheat sheet to crime deets AND then threaten your suspect when he doesn't give the right answer
Hahaha the colour of that room made my lazy ass eyes wake up I can tell ya! Whooft, it's intense!
Kylee - - I think that's some kind of tint from the camera. Idk if that's the right way to describe it, but I think the room isn't actually that color. The shade of green goes over their bodies and clothes too it looks like
Charles obviously has pure OCD. People suffering from pure OCD often convince themselves that they are impure, immoral and have a huge fear that they could or have have committed crimes they never had anything to do with.
He gets in the mans personal space like a bully. That's harrasment and borderline assault.
It's actually a technique interrogators use to try and intimidate the suspect....start far away, move closer and closer to them until they are right in their face, making the person feel so uncomfortable they are likely to confess. I used to watch interrogations and never realised just how calculated every move is, like having the good cop/bad cop scenario when interviewing. I just used to think one must have a nicer personality, but they are assigned those roles before they even go in.
This a constant and well know tactic that interrogators do.
That's a gestapo tactic. They get taught how to do it. Just a tiny glimpse into how vile the system really is.
Here’s a question. Is it better for every guilty person to be caught, prosecuted, and convicted, or for no innocent person to ever be wrongfully convicted?
Just when I think "Hey where is my That Chapter episode!" I blink and it appears.
I have been going back to re watch eps that I had forgotten... Mike! This was 3 years ago and you hadn't changed a tad mate!
By far my most fav channel for years!.... New murder case solved in Australia, only 120 ks from where I live. Google Ballarat murder... I am sure you will be covering it soon. A son of a ex Aussie Rules player... WEIRD!
"Tell me what I want to hear" THIS IS NEVER WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SAY!!!
YOU NEVER USE SUGGESTION IN THIS MANNER!!!
*flips a table!*
I'm glad that Charles is in the dog training program. The prosecuter & police should serve same time as Charles.
The prosecuter is now a judge, he's such a pos
What can be done to free this guy, when logic common sense, physics, the law & the evidence all show it was not him, does the American local & state government knowingly just leave an innocent person in prison? Is this because these authorities don’t want to have a possibility of a compensation settlement?
I loved going to the States but in the past few years it just seems like a very unstable, unsafe place to go to. When you think this is happening to their citizens, Americans, people the authorities have a legal responsibility to protect & serve. I hate to think about how they could treat tourists and people they don’t have to protect or they don’t feel they have to take care of.
Charles threw Ryan under the bus, even though prosecution coached him in doing so.
Ryan is released, rewarded $11 million dollars, and suddenly Charles says he's innocent.
I believe both are innocent, but man Charles did his buddy wrong.
What? Did u watch the video u ducking moron?
Mike, you do really well to get these videos out in such a timely manner and to such a high standard. I'd imagine there's a lot of time goes into getting these out. Keep up the good work ya dorty shite in a bucket.
Tends to be Irish travellers tho. I love Mike tho, he does a great job with the channel.
This is a scary story and there's something seriously wrong with Charles.
As an alcoholic i will say after passing out we have ver very vivid dreams that has nothing to do with us. All it takes is us hearing/see or thinking what could've and it blurs into reality when we wake..
Imagine you are the responsible friend taking care of your blackout drunk friend, only to be convicted of murder due to a DREAM your blackout drunk friend had. Last time I party with that friend.
This is why one should NEVER talk to police without an attorney present.
That little boy is me trying to tell any story ever. I'm a visual person. I need to write shit down. Leave me alone! 😭
Missing: police and prosecution's integrity
Also missing: Charles's brain
My first clue that something was amiss when Charles was being interrogated was the fact that the interrogator kept clearing his throat. I’m certainly not an expert but my gut feeling was that he was ready and willing to say and do anything just to stamp closed on this case. Throat clearing to me is a sign of “I’m actually going to screw you even if I don’t think you were involved, so bend over.”
Kathleen Zelder is a warrior. She works tirelessly to get the innocents released. Worth a Google.
Steven and Brendan are still in.
@chrissie1066
So that people can look her up, it's Kathleen Zellner, not Zelder. :-)
Update: Charles Erickson was released from prison in January, 2023
Its stunning how stupid some cops/detectives are. They had to escort him to the scene of the crime because he had no idea where it happened... That might clue you into something.
@thatchapter will you do a video on the unsolved murder of JoAnn Romain Matouk from Michigan? It's been over ten years since her body was discovered. My aunt was friends with her. It would mean alot to us and JoAnn family if you did a video on her. It would be an interesting case for you to look into. Thanks.
The prosecutor is now a judge. Hope that makes yall feel better
This sums up the American legal system better than anything else. Corrupt DA sends 2 innocent people to prison (and probably more), through gross prosecutorial misconduct, and is then given a judgeship. 🤮
Yep, make a known liar a Judge. I pray for anyone that ever goes in front of him.
Jesus.
Omg how did that happen. He should be fired
I'm so disgusted with a "justice" system that would turn a blind eye to injustice just to perpetuate an illusion that they never make mistakes.
This is the very thing our justice system is theoretically designed to prevent. It is not designed to put away guilty people but rather to keep the innocent free. This is a bigger tragedy than having 100 murderers go free. When being questioned about a crime, if you are innocent or don’t know what’s happening the only word that should ever leave your mouth is lawyer.
It’s so sad. Charles really seemed logical from the start. Accepted that he may have done it, told the interrogation that he doesn’t know much but it could be him. Responding reasonably to everything thrown at him and because this investigation was flawed, he’s sent away and so is his friend. Charles seems so innocent and honest about everything. Heartbreaking to know that he’s locked up despite all the evidence for him to be free.
@asdf jkll When you are unsure of something and your response is "I'm unsure", that's illogical? The argument for stupidity is valid though.
@Bubbles Bedlam
Have you never had an extremely realistic nightmare?
Shit *feels* real.
When you add being led to the answer, I'd argue it's more of morality/guilt/strong imagination that explains it - far more than stupidity.
Stupidity is having fingerprints/DNA not matching the people targeted by the "investigation" but still pursuing those whose fingerprints and DNA don't match the crime scene. Stupidity is having phone records for the time-frame of the crime disproving (or at least not supporting) the involvement of the people alleged to be involved, and still pushing to convict.
(Tangent) I can also personally attest to the fact that Columbia police would rather prosecute potential drug crimes over attempted homicide (~2011-2012). A loved one of mine (15 years old) was very nearly murdered, and they asked about weed instead of trying to investigate the person (19 years old, a stranger) we KNEW had nearly killed them by giving them a TBI/brain bleed that caused slurred speech and memory loss (couldn't remember who family members were for days), and I'm convinced the only reason they survived was because my dad literally saw them on the side of the road as he was driving, saw the perpetrator fleeing, and stopped to check out the situation. Dad thought it was a trash bag, but it was our loved one. I don't think loved one would be alive if my dad had not driven by within seconds/a minute of the attack.
The "stupid" person you're referencing is actually a victim. Full stop. The end.
Who has a dream tho and admits to killing someone? He ruined his own life
I’m still confused on this case. His watch and keys were gone -indicating a burglary. Whose belt was used? The killer was interrupted. Who were the two kids? Why didn’t they come forward? I don’t think this was Boyd and it seems like this could be solved…
12:47 A beautiful example of why I don’t respect authority, and don’t expect my children to. Overused and abused…
This is a prime example of law enforcement, and officials abusing their power with-in the system. If a witness, or "potential" suspect makes a false statement, or even could be tricked, and persuaded into believing things happened a certain way, and it's revealed to be un-true they could be charged with obstruction of justice, lying under-oath etc.. But when a cop or official does the same thing it's called "part of their job" This divide has become a norm and t's disgusting. In this case they interrogated to get the response they wanted to hear. They didn't care who paid for the crime as long as they got the merit for "finding" who was "responsible" I believe Erikson is innocent and this should be petitioned to help him get a retrial and re-open this case to actually solve it correctly. They took a vulnerable, scared man who came in on his own free-will and tore him apart. Injustices like this happen EVERYDAY this is a HUGE problem in our society. Abuse of power. and Hidden Agendas.
That cop should go to prison for such incompetence
The Cops should.
...And the prosecutors.
really makes me laugh. you to question a police officer and you go over to them they say back off my personal space. yet so many times i watch these interviews in these interrogation rooms and they are nearly sat on the persons lap so in your face. what’s good for one is good for the other.
There is an awesome documentary about this case called The Dream Killer, it focuses more on Ryan Ferguson’s side of the story.
That sketch literally doesn’t even look like him lol he had to still be high 😂
The story is for anyone who ever wondered why it’s a bad idea to talk to the police even when innocent
imagine having a friend so shit that he gets you wrongfully imprisoned for a decade
Hahaha that's basically what happened. The friend should have stfu
When you're having an anxiety attack so you emergency watch That Chapter
That's crazy that the first cop has not been jailed as well as the prosecutor.
I've had dreams after a night of heavy drinking where I had to ask if they were real or a dream. It's clear he didn't have the actual information about the murder, didn't know what type of weapon was used, didn't leave behind any evidence. These were planted thoughts. Bottom line.
This story was made into the documentary “Dream/Killer” which can be seen on Netflix
So good. That father never gave up on his son.
Thanks for this comment. I need a new Netflix show
Thanks for posting that. I’m going to watch that next
Yeah real good
It was so good too. What an incredible father.
Roughly $4,200 per day for each day they stole from him?
All in all, he'd probably still prefer it just never happened.
I wonder how much of that 11 million went to lawyers?
At least 1/4 of that goes to the lawyers
Probably about 30% but he’d still be a multimillionaire
Don't forget lawyer fees and I wonder if they consider that taxable income too? that $11m dollar figure would come down REAL fast.
@Dani Stark uh... You're wrong.
Cop won’t get a chance to sputter and bark ignorantly in my face. “I want a lawyer “. Period.
I don't understand why you would lie and say you committed a murder if you didn't and throw away your life. Is he mentally ill? All because some detective started yelling at him in an interrogation room? Let the guy yell at you - who cares if you are innocent. Get a lawyer ASAP.
I agree with you 100%%!!!!
It seems to me Charles must be a little dimwitted. I can't imagine a dream or police manipulation convincing me that I did something which I did not.
It is crazily easy to implant memories in regular people. All it takes is a bit of emotional manipulation. We all like to believe we’re smart enough to avoid being fooled like that, but it’s not about intelligence. It seems that in this case, the guy had tendencies toward paranoia, making it even easier for the cop to gaslight him.
i wouldn't say dimwitted, i think there's actually something there and i'm not even sure he was fit to stand trial
@@tallgrasslanestitches6635 no it's not, it only happens to idiots, and it seems you are one of them... Moron
He already had some feeling that he was involved, told his friend who assured him that they werent there but he kinda became consumed by it & then that dream convicted him, so it was easy to sway him after that. Or shall i say, help him him fill the missing gaps.
He firmly believed himself to be very much guilty at that point.
Shouldn't have lied against his friend though.
@@sufiankhan1 That's not true. I have frequent dissociative episodes due to PTSD that result in memory loss. I sometimes rely on others to tell me what happened, which makes it *extremely* easy for someone to implant memories. He was blackout drunk, he lost memory and was already paranoid he had something to do with it. That makes it extremely easy to manipulate someone into believing they did something that they didn't actually do.
I never saw an investigator who kept talking more than the suspect!!! The guy never completed a full sentence!
"I don't know why he's from Dublin" 😂😂
In the words of Nick Rekieta: "KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT AND GET A LAWYER"
All my respect for ryan for trying still to help his friend charles who is necessarily the reason he was sent to prison in the first place. I hope they manage a retrial or appeal the sentence.
This is another case that proves the importance of asking for a lawyer during police interrogation.
He's taking those years in prison a lot better than I would have. Damn the money.
This almost exclusively only happens in the USA. This is what you get when so much emphasis is put on getting a conviction, not on finding the truth. Elected DA's and sherriffs are an incredibly bad idea, and I think it's been proven that juries are not adequately knowledgeable to make a fair judgement.
There's a reason it's estimated that the USA has the highest number of innocent people in prison out of all western countries.
To be fair quite a few countries share similar issues to the US. Japan's courts are an example of this. They have a stupidly high prosecution rate - I think like 98% - so it's assumed if you get charged by the police your ass is going to prison. They will straight up let criminals go unpunished if they think the case isn't solid enough to convict; on the other side of the coin they won't hesitate to pressure innocent people into false confessions by threatening them with massive jail terms unless they take a deal. They've had a lot of people being declared innocent after spending decades in prison. One guy in particular was let out after he'd spent 45 years on death row and they'd kept him in solitary so long that his mind is completely broken. He barely understands what planet he's on; he was doing a press conference one time and in the middle of answering a question he just stood up and walked out mid-sentence. It's almost like he's got dementia. Japan doesn't tell their death row inmates when they are going to be executed in advance so you can wake up one day and be told you're getting executed that same day which probably doesn't help their mental health.
oh boy lemme tell you about my country brazil...
LOL this is so laughable. Law enforcement in America is extremely corrupt but there are plenty of very corrupt countries all over the world. You are delusional if you really believe this is exclusive to the USA.
Simply the fact that conviction rate is a measure of competence for police and prosecutors makes the „Land of the Free“‘s entire justice system a joke.
If I was Ryan I wouldn’t give a shyte about Charles
I am so thrilled to report that Charles Erickson was released from prison in January 2023! His attorney kept filing those writs and he was freed. It took 20 years but he's finally home.
wow, thank you for this update!
Darwinism wise, he kind of belongs there. His retarded behavior started this all
That's amazing. I've seen cases where DAs blame mentally ill people, but it gets really bizarre when they take out their friend too. Any word on the real killer?
That's great to hear. I knew all about Ryan being release back in 2011. I'm glad that they released Charles.
@@kristengottula9337 Charles Boyd more than likely.
Great News!!!!!!!!!!!!! On january 9 2023 Charles Erickson was released from prison after nearly 20 years! Now lets hope that they can bring the real killer to justice!!
🎉🎉🎉🎉
Now I’d like to give a friendly reminder - DO. NOT. TALK. TO. POLICE. WITHOUT. A. LAWYER!!! There is no law compelling you to talk.
Amen brother! Amen!
@Seymour Cox ok captian hyperbole. obviously you can talk to the cops for the majority of cases and not get fucked in the ass for it. but if you are being accused of something you didn't do or even something you are not sure if you did, DO NOT TALK LAWYER LAWYER LAWYER. especially if it's a murder charge
This is true but they don't exactly make it real obvious that it's totally fine for you to keep your mouth shut. And if you don't talk they tell at you. They use intimidation on kids like these who don't really understand the laws so they think they have to talk to them even when they are read their rights. Those Mirandas are always just breezed right thru without much of an explanation as to what it really means when it says you have the right to remain silent. People don't get it until it's too late even if they did nothing wrong. I both love and hate the police honestly.
yep, I learned this the hard way and I'll never forget it.
I don’t understand how people do.
So basically the police convinced him that he killed somebody because they couldn’t solve the case.
And the wild thing is that there is more evidence against Boyd, including motive.
Police fed Charles all the secret evidence they had. Then suddenly Charles remembered. The belt and the scene of the crime Charles didnt know at all. What shitty police "detectives". That's like rule 1 of truth finding.
*wouldn't solve the case. FTFY.
Exactly!!!
@@Werrf1, interesting, so they have since solved the case?
I would be so mad if my friend went wack and made us go to jail over a dream.
😄😄😄😄😄
lol, the point is he shouldn't be able to do that. It demonstrates the ineptitude of the cops.
He was probably really angry but now that he's free he's trying to help his buddy
Sheriden haha i know right! Thats what I was thinking I was getting pissed just listening to this story
Lol wat a dummy
Making someone believe they committed a crime and stealing decades of his life should be as much as a crime and give you years in prison and fees, dirty cops need to suffer consequences
ACAB!!
cops always use the your buddy is in the other room telling us everything bullshit its up to you to deny/no comment your way out guilty or not the cops will paint you into a corner and they dont care about anything other than getting someone
Back the Blue! Murica
@@theultimaterental you keep doing that, backing up the organization with all the power and authority. You lick them boots…
but they don’t back you.
They should get TWICE the time.
I don't know how that cop is living knowing he forced an innocent boy to confess to a murder by giving him all of the answers! he literally used him in the worst way.
I hate cases like these it boils my blood.
he is a cop, he is living just fine
he beat the hell
out of his wife and slept like a baby the past 20 years bet that lmao
Some people have Zero empathy for others. He just wanted to be credited for getting a Confession, even though he fed him info til he got it "right" with the officer