Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro Honest Review
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
- Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro review vs BMW F 850 GS.
Contents:
00:00 No perfect balance
00:39 Tiger 900 Rally vs GT
02:10 Weight
02:32 Ground clearance
02:48 Colors
03:26 Tiger 900 Rally vs BMW F 850 GS
03:47 Price and packages
05:38 Navigation
06:12 Sockets
06:48 Cruise control
06:58 Suspension adjustment
07:25 Clutch
08:46 Consumption
09:56 Engine
11:52 Vibrations
12:43 Hot engine?
13:07 Riding modes
13:50 Windscreen
14:29 Mirrors
14:35 Ergonomics
18:51 Wide tank
19:12 Hand guard and levers
19:43 Display
20:54 Seat and width
23:50 Off-road tricks
24:24 Brakes
25:38 Suspension
29:00 Results
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would love to see an update to this review with the 2024 update! Love your vids, keep it up :)
Thank you for your review.
Your review has been very helpful to me.
Wow good job on this very in depth review !
I'm hard pressed to think of something you overlooked. Lol. Very thorough.
Very interesting review. Helpful in many ways, confusing in others. Here's mine. I love my 2023 Tiger 900 Rally Pro. All the pros you mentioned. I hate the "control panel display" in it's user interface. I hate the gas mileage I get which is, maybe 43/MPG and gives me 150 miles or so per tank. I heard all about the vibration but to me it's fine. Overall I love it and am very very happy with it.
Bruh I literally see your comments everywhere lmao I must be going down the same route you did, even firearm related content
LOL. really? :LIke what others? You ride? Tiger 900 ? Hunt? Paraglide? I notice your photo on your profile is the Hong Kong Harbor. I used to live in HK and know HK very well and been there many many times @@donut3110
Never had a vibration problem with my Tiger 900 GT Pro brilliant bike IMO.
GT versions don't really have much of vibrations. I tested 2023 GT Pro, and this week tested 2024 Rally Pro, and after 15min break tested 2024 GT Pro.
2024 GT Pro, no real vibrations. Very smooth.
2023 GT Pro, in higher RPMs one can find some, but really not a problem.
However, 2024 Rally Pro does have some vibrations. For example, the Rally Pro version had accessory foot-peg, thus no rubber inserts. After 1.5h ride, my left foot was tingling. Left hand wasn't tingling, but was about to start too.
I also tested both models at 60, 65, 70, 75, 80 mph in 6th gear on cruise control. Simply touch handlebars with fingers. There's a very clear difference between GT and Pro models. The same was noticed by some other reviewers as well.
I also think that 2023 GT Pro vibrates less than 2024 Rally Pro. However, 2024 don't have any vibrations in the seat anymore due to new seat. But that seat now is less comfortable sadly.
@@PovilasPanavasNicely said 👏
I think the crash bars are adding vibrations to the bike because it’s more rigid with the crash bars.
Add Teflon washers might help that issue.
Great detailed review
I just recently purchased a 1200 Rally Explorer. Love the bike so far. It’s a beast.
Read the manual and you'll see the that the suspension must be adjusted for offroad to chane the geometry of the bike and to make the suspension more compliant to suite offroad riding.
I broke those cheap hand guards on day 1. Replaced them with steel ones.
Very good point about the vibrations, it is being often skipped with other review where for me, this is a big issue. I don't know how that can crate engine that will vibrate so much above 5k rpm.
I liked a lot when you explained the sitting position i details. The knees ect
There is a preload adjuster on the front forks specifically to rake the bike out for off-road. This adjustment is not fitted to the GT range. The idea is you do not touch it on-road and it is only to give this bike an off-road rake. Triumph recommend for off road you also dump the rear preload completely, absolute minimum so along with adding front preload the bike now has an off road geometry. You totally missed this, as do all reviewers.
Preload works on the Triumph just like it does on other bikes. According to you, the preload on a motorcycle with one small rider without load should be adjusted in the same way as when riding with a passenger and panniers. Plus, "off-road" can be called a huge number of situations with different speed ranges. If it were that easy, hardenduro bikes wouldn't have adjustments.
@@adv-moto your first sentence, yes and no. From a mechanical perspective yes, off course but in this specific instance on this specific bike they are using preload in a completely different way to alter the geometry for off road. This is specifically to rake it out.
How many times I have to turn the pre load? I turn and turn but there is no end
@@dommotos The manual tells you. There are 16 or as many as 18 "clicks" I think.
Thank you for going over the vibration issue at highway speeds. Not on my wishlist anymore.
I own the 2020 Rally Pro and just rode it from NYC to Orlando and back, most of the time cruising between 80 - 85 mph. Yes, there is some vibration, but not enough to distract or bother me at all. I found it to be a comfortable, relaxing and enjoyable ride. Everyone is different when it comes to how sensitive they are to vibrations, so I recommend taking one on a test drive. I love the bike and do not regret the purchase at all. Although I have to say my only real disappointment has been that the My Tiger system for directions on the TFT sucks and isn't worth using or investing in - the navigation portion supposedly is from Google, but it is NOT google maps and the information in the app seems outdated and inaccurate (no exit numbers for most highways and incorrect exit names, street names, etc.) just use google or apple maps and mount your phone on the handlebars.
owns the 2021 Rally Pro and has now driven 6,000 miles.
The steering wheel vibrates at an average of 85 to 95 miles
This probably gives some cause to the 21-inch tires.
My solution was to use the Barkbuster handle guard and the weight of the handle to offset some of it, and now I'm having a lot of fun. The Tiger 900 Rally Pro is certainly a very good option for the same price range.
Try a test drive.
Did you ever testride one? Its all about what you expect and experienced before....I had a single cylinder for the last couple of years, literally everything now feels smooth for me....i ordered the tiger 900 rally pro and i think the vibrations are a joke and nothing to complain about (just my opinion from the testride). And also i want to mention: fuel consumption of 5.2ltrs is not realistic.
In Germany there is a website called "spritmonitor" where you can have a look on other peoples fuel consumption....there are people driving the tiger900 rally pro with 4 liters....
@@hantabox why does your bike have a steering wheel 😂😂
@@nardoman Why would you NOT just use a Phone App? . I used one on my KLR for over 10 yrs with no issues...... I have no need for all that FORCED ON YOU TECH....... Just more aggravation I don't need .......
Вот и обзоры на английский перевелись! Расти канал, расти😁
Да пока весь вопрос с переводчиком. Я-то хоть каждый день могу переводы выпускать и как раз время появилось, чтобы этим заниматься.
Great review. I rode a Rally Pro in the States in August and was very taken with it vs my Africa Twin Adventure Sport DCT ES. Lighter and more nimble yet much more planted even with it’s 50:50 on/off road tyres. Tall for my short legs but doable all the same. Great riding position and that engine which will pull top at under 2,000 rpm without complaint. I don’t like the fashion driven crank which tries to emulate a V twin with nonsense about more torque. It’s lost the turbine smooth power delivery of a 120 degree triple. Not a deal breaker all the same. It’s giving away 200cc to the Honda yet felt much livelier not least due to the reduced weight. I would venture off road on the Tiger and never on the ATAS. Quite probably my next bike.
Tall for your short Legs yet you own an Africa Twin ? AHAHAHA With their seats in their Low position on Both Im on the balls of my feet... Tiger Vibration is a concern IF its annoying... I have yet to ride either one but Plan to this spring...
I agree with you. I am selling all my bikes and buying tiger
I like tiger but I can go off road with africa and I am afraid of tiger because it is not robust
I've just replaced my 2016 Africa twin with a 2022 rally pro. The tiger is lighter and far more manageable off road. I'm about to find out how it compares on a European tour.
Nonsens i have no viberation that consern me at 125 km/h a litte it is but i find it good and i drive a Rally Pro 2022 model so the viberations is bull it is almost nothing to worrie about.
You make a point about compression ratio. Without knowing the cam timing it’s not a useful measure. What matters is the torque/power outputs across the rev range which is the best comparison. My friend’s Tiger Rally is very economical ridden smoothly plus he had a DNK Tuneworks remap plus the same on his Speedmaster. The Speedmaster managed a staggering 3.4 litres per 100km over a 650 mile trip mixing freeways/back roads and keeping up with the Tiger. Amazing what can be done.
Great review, thank you. I have a street triple (it's perfect) and want to buy the tiger 900 too. It has everything you could want but like others I'm put off by the vibration issues. I'm sure Triumph will try to fix it... maybe the next version.
Thank you. Vibrations are individual. For example, mega-popular BMW 1200 GS had strong vibrations at some revs, which does not prevent it from being a favorite adventure bike for many guys. The Tiger 900 vibrations are less annoying, for example. It is more interesting that the Tiger 800 was an icon of engine softness in its class, and now it is not.
@@adv-moto.. True enough I have a KLR hahahaha but it's where those Vibes show their face thats important.... Way down low in the Rev or way high I dont really care but if its at cruise speeds 55 to 75 MPH thats a bad place for them to live. I m o...... I have had the chance to ride one yet and Do plan to rent one for the day to see........ A new Bike Is in my future come spring..
Really appreciate the comprehensive nature of these reviews you're doing.
How does a Tiger 900 compare up against the 850GS if the BMW is 4000 Euros cheaper to buy. Would a suspension upgrade on the Beemer bring it closer to the Tiger's dynamics on and off road?
In Spain, the difference is only 2,000 € when compared to the 900 Rally and the 850 GS.
850 has a problem with the fact that it is a little worse on the little things - just for these 2000 euros.
For example, has a slightly smaller range. The brakes are a little worse, dynamics, windshield, seat, weight.
A significant pros of the BMW is that it does not have annoying vibes at some highway speeds. Plus, BMW have better warranty conditions and a wider dealer network.
It's about the same with restyling - it's quite difficult to buy pre-styling car for almost the same money and know that buttons and fabric are better on the new one. Nothing critical, both bikes play on the same field.
very VERY very good and complete review.
Although i normaly do not pay much attention to riders that do not wear protective gear (in this case...gloves.)
But still ...good work !
I've got a Tiger 800 2017 XCA. I love my bike. Want to change... that my second 🐅 Tiger 88000km so far on this one. But what you've said about the vibration, let me cold. I ride my 800 like a Sports bike some time... an it's very fun to rev the rpm. I ride up to 180kmh very easy.
Now, off-road riding: I go off-road riding often an I adapt myself to the low torque engine...keeping the rev at 5000rpm to sustain the torque adequate to my riding speed. TRIUMPH should keep the old firing ingtion. Well... seems that it would be a Ducati desert x.
Thanks
Do we know if the vibration issues have been addressed in the 2023 model?
Same
Love the review man . So if you were to pick the tiger 900 or 800? Why
The 900 is a huge improvement over the Tiger 800. Improved ergo, engine, suspension, brakes.
@@adv-moto but are the vibrations in the 900 so bad that the 800 is much better ?
@GhettoSuguru The 800 had a phenomenally non-vibrating engine, just that. And since 2024, the Tiger 900 with an anti-vibration handlebar mount. Plus, the 900 Rally now without panels over knees - actually, the review is a bit dated.
Underrated? It does not sell much in Europe right? In Brazil sells a lot
Big on words but short on facts...
Strongly advise U to review new version of japanese Yamaha Tracer 900GT + .. could be rival to this Tiger 900
I love Tracer 9, but this bike is sooo different. Simple: Tiger 900 GT is very-very versatile bike, ready for long journeys with passenger, ready for bad roads, easy trails, etc. Tracer 9 not so comfy for tall guys, not so comfy for passenger, not so comfy and can be dangerous for trail-riding, but it's very light and funny bike on twisty roads. More stiff and sporty than Tiger 900 GT (I mean suspension & geometry, not engine). It's like old sports-touring bikes like Honda VFR800F, but with much more comfort for rider. It's something like S1000XR, but 2 times cheaper (and not so powerful).
204mm front 219mm rear suspension travel on the F850GS. on the bmw site. The GSA gas more but that bike is as heavy as a r1200gs LC
On bmw-motorrad.de (F 850 GS Basic & Adv): 230 mm front / 215 mm rear
@@adv-moto we get this version in the UK the adv does have the longer suspension.
Best review of the Tiger 900 I've seen yet. Looks like an Africa Twin might be a better bike. Have you reviewed one?
I have ridden all types of Africa Twin, but there are no plans to do a review.
When comparing 2 bikes directly, Tiger 900 is more comfortable and feels smaller and lighter, although they are close in weight. This can be neglected.
Africa Twin has versions with DCT, so if you buy an everyday bike, Africa Twin wins only due to this advantage. A motorcycle with an automatic transmission is a fresh experience anyway - bikes are bought for emotions, for traffic jams it is a wonderful thing.
If you remove DCT, I like the Tiger - more balanced suspension (even Rally). Africa has too soft suspension and somewhere on the twisty roads it feels like you are riding an off-road motorcycle, not a road bike. The Tiger has a good balance, it is more pleasant on the pavement - even Rally. On GT version amazing suspension for pavement and light off-road.
@@adv-moto I suspected that. The AT is not known for its comfort. The one I rode, with DCT, had a snatchy throttle.
13000 50-50 miles on my TRP in Colorado. I regularly ride at freeway speeds and have never noticed the vibrations to be that noticeable. You're obviously a pretty sensitive guy. Maybe a Goldwing?
Maybe Tiger 800 or Tenere 700 without engine vibrations? :)
Sound a little like a computer... but Great review all the same, thanks 👍
How did you get 30kg difference between the GT and Rally? And how did you not notice how obviously wrong those figures must be?
Where did I say that?
@@adv-moto 02:25
@@adv-moto Maybe you meant 215, but I can't not hear 250.
Question, how is a 900cc a mid size bike ?
Why not? And, actually, Tiger is 888 cc.
Riding with no gloves, is it a button operation a problem?
Now wonder you have only 75k followers . 900 rally pro is the best bike
Do you know if vibration is the issue of Tiger 1200 also ?
I haven't ridden it yet, just sat in showroom - only available for a short test-ride in Spain, I'll wait until it's available for a few days. I have concerns about vibrations because the new 1200 uses the same "T-plane" system, but need to try. In any case, this is the first motorcycle on the priority list of new adventure-models. Although, to be honest, the king of the 1200 class - Multistrada V4, it is very difficult to compete with it in terms of comfort and dynamics, and in Ducati also a very soft engine.
@@adv-moto great ! Subscribed ! And waiting for some more info.
Why would I listen to the opinion of someone who doesn’t have the sense to wear gloves !
Some of the specs in those tables are off. For example the Norden 901 full. of fuel and fluids ready to ride isn't 222kg it's 214kg pretty much within a kilo of the 890 Adventure R. These are actual measured weights. So far I've not some across anyone actually weigh a Tiger yet. WTF is a squeeze clutch? Do you mean a cable clutch?
Ok. Oficial dry weight of Norder - 204 kg.
90% 19l tank * 0,75 of 95 RON = 12,825 kg.
@@adv-moto There in lies the problem. You can' take the weights from the KTM and Husky websites. If you remember the weight of the 890 Adventure according to KTM grew 7kg over the 790 Adventure. Yet when people actually put them on scales they were within 1kg of each other. Same with the Norden. It's all been filmed and documented.
How about a Tracer 9 ?
Tracer 9 only for perfect roads.
Big disappointment?!? You must be the first I´ve heard that from
Shocking to see a rider without gloves ...
Other reviewers completely disagree with you about vibratons. Some very knowledgeable. Strange. Should we trust you or them?
Some reviews agree with me.
www.motorcyclenews.com/bike-reviews/triumph/tiger-900-gt-pro/2020/ - for example, just search for the words "vibe". Owner reviews below.
i mentioned somewhere else here already: its all about your expectation and previos experiences. i rode a single cylinder the last couple of years and everything is smooth for me now... if you come from a 4 or 6 cyl. it might be more vibrations than u are used to. I try not to ride on highways with my bike cause its plain boring it wonbt be an issue for me. but i think there are a couple of solutions from the aftermarket
WHAT! No gloves??
Nice review, but that must be the stupidest designed dashboard, I could not look at that a whole day riding !!! Otherwise a good looking bike.
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I will get Africa Twin DCT.
Too many commercials ... WOW ... REALLY!
For some reason most adventure bikes look like a cartoon bird in the front. They are either trying too hard with the designs or they don’t know how to design good looking bikes.
V strom 1050de?
Mostly a BS review??? Vibration? How can you say a twin is smoother, sorry you made you’re decisions before riding
Why you say
Engine made in China? It's not.
All current mid-size BMW engines made by Loncin in China only.
Triumph is just overated. Way too expensive than it should be. Consumes a lot of fuel, engine si not smooth.
I liked a lot when you explained the sitting position i details. The knees ect