Watching other videos this is not a mountain bike though it has the word mountain and it’s title, so this was a pretty good video though it didn’t describe that it really is not a mountain bike another video mention that this is not for mountain trails but good old fashion neighborhood bike riding and maybe some hills but it is not a mountain bike whichVideos of shown it’s not for rough riding but it is very nice for neighborhood riding slide hills and smooth roads
I am sold according to the comments, what I've gathered is ,it's not a mountain bike as advertised, but it's decent for casual or street which is exactly what I need. And you just can't beat that price. So,thanks fot all the comments from this community, really helped with my decision making,cheers.
Cheap e bikes that work are a threat to the big guys that sell more expensive e bikes. This guy obviously is trying to make this bike look very bad so that you buy his much more expensive e bike from his company or some other that he has ties with. I have this Walmart bike and mine works and rides great.
Yeah I got mine for Christmas and I ride it to work everyday which is about 10 miles back and forth and been riding fine for me. I would never ride it on trails tho lol. Plus the brakes are so bad did you get disk brakes eventually?
We have a couple of these. I put on better forks, a suspension seat post and Shimano MT200 hydraulic brakes on them. We just ride them on mild trails and rail trails. I wouldn't hammer on it like I do my mountain bike. We have slightly over 1000 miles on them so far and no problems. We've enjoyed them immensely.
My partner and I each bought one of these bikes, and while I agree that it shouldn't be marketed as a mountain bike, it is certainly the best bike for a beginner to e-bikes in general. Yes, there are a few issues but when I consider the price difference between this and a "proper" e-bike, I have no regrets in purchasing the thing. I have been satisfied with its performance as long as I don't do any of the extreme biking tasks that you do. All in all, your review is accurate(especially about the chain falling off every now and then)
I guess this bike will give you so many problems that it will make you hyper. I guess it's like any other Walmart bicycle that it's probably okay for very light use, like riding to a neighbor's house or sometimes like that but I'm sure that is not for any kind of rough terrain nor long distances.
It's not practical, safe, reliable and good quality. I am not trying to be rude but might as well throw that money away. The battery is cheap which makes them very susceptible to exploding.. It is worth it to spend 3 to 5 times more.
@@GreenSlug420 for that, I bought my ebike from Steve's bike shop which is a local bicycle shop. It costed $2k but so far, its lasted me for almost a year without problems. It looks like with all the problems that a Hyper ebike would give you, it will really make you very hyper.
We have a couple of these. I put on better forks, a suspension seat post and Shimano MT200 hydraulic brakes on them. We just ride them on mild trails and rail trails. I wouldn't hammer on it like I do my mountain bike. We have slightly over 1000 miles on them so far and no problems. We've enjoyed them immensely.
Such a good video dude! At $400 I wasn't expecting a lot but man, I'm surprised at how fast it fell apart. Good point about taking off the "Mountain” and just marketing it as a commuter bike.
This guy has his head up somewhere. I just bought the cruiser version, and am really happy with it. Why does he think that a $400 bike would be perfect out of the box, when you have to assemble it yourself? Kyle, I made it a few seconds in and gave up, if you're a bike guy you know how ridiculously easy V brakes are to setup. Stop being a gate-keeper. These bikes are decent for the money. I've been riding bikes for 40 years. This is my first venture into E bikes, it's cheap. Don't buy a Hyundai and whine it doesn't perform like a Ferrari...
A 36 volt lithium powered bike with a brushless hub motor weighing in at 48 pounds for $400. Ten years ago, A 24 volt sealed lead acid powered bike with a brushed motor weighing in at 70 pounds (Ezip Trailz) ran you $500. It's nice to see how far along technology has progressed. This bike is a great deal for $400 for someone who will take it the same places the majority of us will go, which is the sidewalks and side roads. If the batteries are of any sort of decent quality and the bike isn't thrashed, a person could see a lot of use out of this value oriented machine.
I think 1/100 people will take it offroad. 99/100 people just want the cheapest ebicycle on market to ride (considerably alot faster than walking, without looking like a clown on small 14" wheels) on flat roads to work due to the ever increasing living cost .
Good info. I’m looking at maybe still getting this bike because at Walmart it says you can get 4 year warranty for $50. It says it covers to motor for the whole 4 years. Seeing what your thoughts are.
Yeah, rear hub motors are dangerous on any kind of trails. They're meant for paved, city commutes. Even a $2500 bike with a powerful 1500w rear hub motor is also horrible for trails due to the delays. You want a mid drive for that since the torque sensor is much more sensitive and will work with you over the poor cadence sensor.
The review rocks. I saw a 500+ assist bike for sale and knowing they cost over 1500. I thought the price came down was getting ready to buy one then watched the many reviews and none of them were positive. So your views really help. Thanks. STYC.
I bought this bike because the area I live in has a lot of hills and i was just peddling a regular mountain bike. Most of the time I had to get off and push up a hill. This bike was perfect for what I needed it for. And I have nothing negative to say about it and I chose this bike because I didn’t want to pay 800 or 1200 for a different model. So just riding around town this bike is definitely what I needed
I think your comparing apples to oranges. Good entry bike for light trails. Cadence sensing as you know is pretty standard on hub driven brushless motors vs torque sensing in the high end bikes. Also, you should mention customer service behind brands. Hyper founded by ex pro BMXER has excellent service and parts are available and shipped within a week vs high end brands that don’t provide the extent of parts or sevice. Just food for thought
Appreciate the info Michelle. I can't speak to Hypers customer service, but I don't doubt what you say. They do make really good BMX bikes. I wasn't trying to compare this bike to say a $10,000 E-Bike as there is clearly no comparison, but if I were to spend $400 for a first mountain bike this bike would not be on my shopping list.
Its a great option as a bike for the non biking spouse to keep up with you on your gravel bike. Add $15 disc brake upgrade to back as it is a simple bolt on procedure. But front fork and wheel is not disk ready. If it lasts maybe change out front fork and wheel to disc setup. But not worth throwing another $150 at it. Its always great fun when the wife rides on your draft in a head wind then laughs at you when she passes you going up hill.
Jin Pak Would you be kind enough to let me know the particulars on the rear disc? The wheels are not true, so the brakes had to be dialed back. ( making them less effective.
@@kevinmontgomery1383 the rear wheel hub can accept disc rotor and the frame has mounts for rear disc breaks. But the front fork and front wheel hub does not have mounts. Rear is as simple as buying a set off of ebay or Amazon and installing them. In your case get a spoke tool off Amazon and try that first. It's cheap and keeping wheel true is very important. Lots of videos explaing how to do that. Note any cable disk brakes will work using existing cables. The bike comes with electronic motor cutoff on the break levers so leaving that alone and getting a set of cheap breaks off Amazon will be best. The upgrade to disc break has marginal gains. Good enough to easily stop the bike with only rear breaks on flats but most of the power in breaking comes from front..The brake line is not compressionless cable housing and wires so it will still feel mushy or spongy.
@@kevinmontgomery1383 rujoi bike disc brake kit www.amazon.com/dp/B07TW7H3GX/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_3in9FbJDNC00G?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 Is the set I got to attempt and rear install. Too much work to use adapter and get new front hub so I only did rear. For just the rear www.amazon.com/dp/B07SYB2SJ8/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_zmn9FbRB21Q2N .
I bought mine and for my first Ebike it is pretty dope honestly I'm not trippin but now I see those wheels they well with the hub motor built in and you just add that and throttle kit. Probably my next purchase
You're attempting to ride this MTB like a BMX bike. Can you explain the difference between a BMX and MTB bicycle? Just because they look alike, doesn't mean they should be ridden alike. ;-) For your next trick, I bet you take Touring bikes down Downhill courses.
I would agree it isn't a trail bike and why I stated it shouldn't be marketed as such. Don't know if you follow trends in mountain biking, but nearly every major bike company is producing electric mtb's and they are quite popular.
This was a fun review! I enjoyed the short time I rode it. If I had some extra cash to just throw around I'd buy it just to screw around in my neighborhood or on the greenway. I'm keeping my same cheesy joke: I'll take the chain off and call it the Layz-E-Bike!
O think this is an excellent opportunity to make a Frankenbike with your rusting top of range 26, with nice rims, brakes, forks and groupset and larger handlebar nice tyres... All the stuff everybody's have lying around ond the basement... And it could be a headturner and really fun to ride... And by the way a wrap on the frame!! Think about it!!
That would be a fun project. I considered keeping it and doing such a project, but I don't have any old 26" stuff anymore, and I definitely didn't want to dump more money into this thing lol.
This guy is a bike snob. I have had this bike for 2 years and it's great. It does need a few small upgrades and I'd recommend a new fork but other than that the battery lasts a long time. It's fast, well-built and very fun to ride. It's not for a pro but rather someone that enjoys hitting some trails from time to time (like most of us here). For a few hundred bucks you can make this a totally awesome bike. This dude should have upgraded the bike and told ya'll how to make it better, instead of just bitching about it.
Bike snob? Nah...I ride plenty of affordable bikes. I said in the video that the battery life was impressive, and that it was fun to ride on pavement. My intent behind this video was to save consumers from buying this bike thinking that it's an actual "mountain bike", and make an entertaining video. I feel like upgrading this bike would be a hassle and a waste of money. It didn't fit me, it has outdated standards that make it difficult to source parts, and by the time you do upgrade it...you've probably invested too much into it. Just my opinion. I'm happy you like yours, and feel free to make your own review about it.
Reminds me of the time I took my “off road” package rental to the top of Mauna Kea and back down the “do not go this way unless you have an off road vehicle” trail. We wrecked it. Hard. It was pretty funny actually. And no, we paid for it (well, our insurance did) despite pictures of the “off road” graphics we took. Point: you can break ANYTHING if you don’t understand it’s limits. You took a 400$ Walmart bike on a trail that would thrash most $2000 stock “real” MTB’s (I know this because the reviews of THOSE laugh harder than you at their “capability”…. Some people are just never happy unless it’ll navigate Everest). So congrats. What’s next? Going to take a submarine from a happy meal down the Mariana Trench? Gosh. I wonder what’ll happen???? For 400$ show us an ALTERNATIVE. Let alone a viable one. I bet $400 is around what you spend on a pedal. A single one…. Before you tackle the trails, and that’s awesome, but it’s not the purpose of this bike. I think it’s far more funny you didn’t realize that…
My Walmart e-bikes broke in the first months while biking uphill. Something snapped and although the battery was full and the bike could be ridden by peddling the pedal assist was lost. No one could fix it but it was still under the. Allstate warranty.
Quite frankly, I question any e-bike that doesn't have disc brakes. I would question the chance of wet brakes while doing 20mph as a scary thought on any e-bike.
My friend managed to changed the electronics for 100 and it works fantastic, stock battery is plenty for 30 mph. I think it would make a great budget frame+battery combo.
Lots of, probably even most, big box "mountain" bikes, both electric and entirely human powered, aren't. They're "mountain bike style" commuter bikes. Some of the Kent bikes even have warnings in the manual stating that they're not actually intended for mountain biking.
That looked traumatizing! 50 lb e-bike on shoddy shocks, 26" wheels and rim brakes? Talk about a recipe for disaster haha Awesome video, always entertaining. I personally vote for Pebble Punisher, really emphasizes its performance limitations :P
I agree with you. I spent 2k on an ebike and it has been awesome so far. My old mountain bike is an 2009 Alite 3000 and it has been great all these years for trails, light and good components and it is a 26 inch lol
So for someone that would be riding residential streets to work.. 4 mile round trip would you recommend it. Not wanting to break the bank. Just something to get me back and forth to work on good weather days
I considered that for sure. They actually make a 29" version of this bike for taller riders and it has disc brakes. I think it's $700, but that is a strong contender for such a video series.
Mixed feelings. You could probably make about the same video with a non-powered $150 Walmart mountain bike, which is what this is, only with a motor. I'd be a little a little cautious of any mountain bike at this price range, $400 really just begins to open the door to adequate mountain bikes - that's about the price of a pair of Rockshox Judy Gold forks without the rest of the bicycle. Having said that, the last time I was riding at a competitive level, Scott had still not discovered suspensions. The decades since then have not been especially kind, and I find the hills are getting steeper and the headwinds a little stronger. I'm also not going to see any jump in income soon unless social security has a massive overhaul. So this looks pretty intriguing for somebody to use on the street at an affordable price. I don't need an e-bike that can smoke the rear tire. Their city bike looks tempting, but our street maintenance is pretty lousy and mountain bike wheels seem to hold up better. I'd get this, put a couple of Continental 2" street tires and a decent rack on it and call it an urban assault vehicle. It would let me stay on a bike for another few years, and I could stop having to do dirty tricks to the grandkids bikes like deflating their tires and adjusting the brakes to rub so I can keep up...
it funny people for the last 2 years saying 26inch is dead for bikes but i still see mostly 26 inch everywhere more than most sizes lol! anly size i seen that seem too come close to it is 700c
I liked very much the comment and advise. Thank you, because I am definetly one of the cheap bike buyer, that you rescued my life and risk your life. Very funny and original mae. Good luck for the future and I will subscribe!!
Mountain bike these days just means it resembles mountain bikes lol. This is just a cheap ebike nothing more , at that money it's a good option for commuting, fit kits to bikes and the parts cost more than this bike..
The tires on the bike have to be upgraded And the suspension, excellent review and my apologies on the other comment I left . Its an ok beginner bike from very mild trails but better for the road
Great review! Awesome to see another San Antonian! Had just started riding again and broke my ankle. Can’t wait to get back on the trails…the easy ones. Lol Subscibed!
Stop with the reviewers testing a 400 dollar Walmart bicycle off-road. It's just called a mountain bike for tires and category. It's a suburban cruiser with 26in somewhat slightly mixed terrain tires. Use it for what it is.....not whet you want it to do
Cool video! You saved me some hassles and of course the $. You have a great narrating style. Also u r lucky to have those trails nearby (assuming it's nearby) I wish we had something like this in SD. (May be there is and I am not aware)
Hilarious video! Glad there's brave riders like you to take these insane risks so others don't have to. I just bought one of these to use as a winter work bike, so I'm not expecting much. I do like that this is a 26er, and a small-ish frame at that. I'm 5'7" so It works for me. (plus I still have a set of 26" winter tires around here to use) That said, I'm installing a disc brake on the rear before I even start to ride it. It has an IS disc mount on the frame and the rear hub takes a 6-bolt rotor. I'm planning on swapping out the steel crankset for a spare used alloy set I have sitting around. I was wondering if I could switch around the PAS sensor to the non-drive side while I do this?
Swapping PAS to the non-drive side works! Need to take the sensor out of its bracket and turn it around. (and follow the arrows for the magnet ring) Note, besides having a cheap steel crankset, it also has a weird bottom bracket. Cartridge on the drive side and cone & bearing ring on the non-drive side. (the sight of an old-school lock-ring on the non-drive cup had me worried) How weird is that? 86ed it along with the cranks.
Definitely not an off asphalt bike! It's a 250W street only bike that has an "off road look" to it. It should not see any dirt roads, much less big rocks, stumps, jumps, trails and the like! That's how I saw it b4 I purchased it and so far it's just fine for me @ 6'2 245lb. It is slightly small/underpowered but for the price I overlooked all that and knew that going into it. The motor takes a few seconds to kick in but once you know that you just start to pedal a few seconds b4 the uphill and it kicks in nicely. As long as you stick to the roads, don't jump it and treat it like a new born baby (with lots of babying and care) it will last long enough to get your 400 bucks out of it. At $800 regular price is a thumbs down for sure, @ $400 with these expectations I'm keeping it.
*IF YOU LOSE YOUR BATTERY KEY IT COST $15 TO REPLACE IT PLUS $10 FOR POSTAGE* If your chain comes off and ruins your pedal assist sensor it costs $15 and ten dollars to mail you another one. And goood luck to anyone who gets that little witch Erma who answers the phone at the helpline. She damn sure doesn't need a customer service job.
I need some advice. I am looking from a bike around $500 or $600. I put together a 2 stroke kit but my health problems won't really allow me to ride it let alone enjoy it. I am a vet with a heart condition so what would you recommend for me this around my price range?
To be fair, it's actually a pretty good road bike. Would be good for a casual cyclist or a commuter. Could go on some dirt paths as long as they're not too steep or bumpy. It's fatal flaw is the mountains!
I have a Trek Rail 7 to ride on real mountain bike trails, but I could save on tires when riding with my wife on paved surfaces on her electric bike. I can still ride an electric bike without paying for a real electric bike.
I have two bikes with cadence sensor , I agree it takes a second for a motor to shut off or start up after you stop or start pedaling , but that's something you begin to compensate after first couple of rides , but there's no way cadence sensors are death traps , and not everyone can afford $3000 mid drive torque sensor equipped motor , plus this bike is more for getting to and from work or casual riding. What this gentleman did was comparable to someone taking a Honda civic offroading
This is never an 'off road' bike. Its a typical urban commuter. Period. PAS control and 'off road' does not go as the power you need is not immediately available.
Yeah it's pretty cool for street riding. I did talk about that a bit in the video. If you are a bit taller, I would get the 29" wheel version for like $100 more I think. It also has disc brakes instead of rim brakes which is a nicer feature.
I love all your videos Kyle but man I loved this.... is it bad I still want to buy one 😂😂😂
Thank you Josh! Appreciate the support. I think it's perfectly healthy for you to still want this bike lol. Hope you're well man!
He says in the first 30 seconds of the video to not buy the bike he even repeats himself to not buy the bike
When people want for 400 bucks 4000 bike
Watching other videos this is not a mountain bike though it has the word mountain and it’s title, so this was a pretty good video though it didn’t describe that it really is not a mountain bike another video mention that this is not for mountain trails but good old fashion neighborhood bike riding and maybe some hills but it is not a mountain bike whichVideos of shown it’s not for rough riding but it is very nice for neighborhood riding slide hills and smooth roads
Looks like it’d be a nice commuter bike to work ya know like riding around neighborhoods helping ya get up small hills.
I am sold according to the comments, what I've gathered is ,it's not a mountain bike as advertised, but it's decent for casual or street which is exactly what I need. And you just can't beat that price.
So,thanks fot all the comments from this community, really helped with my decision making,cheers.
I got mine at Walmart. That model is now under $400, I paid $604 2 yrs ago
Use this bike for a touring bike or a commuter and it will last you for years
Cheap e bikes that work are a threat to the big guys that sell more expensive e bikes. This guy obviously is trying to make this bike look very bad so that you buy his much more expensive e bike from his company or some other that he has ties with. I have this Walmart bike and mine works and rides great.
Yeah I got mine for Christmas and I ride it to work everyday which is about 10 miles back and forth and been riding fine for me. I would never ride it on trails tho lol. Plus the brakes are so bad did you get disk brakes eventually?
Mine is great for two seasons in our city
We have a couple of these. I put on better forks, a suspension seat post and Shimano MT200 hydraulic brakes on them. We just ride them on mild trails and rail trails. I wouldn't hammer on it like I do my mountain bike. We have slightly over 1000 miles on them so far and no problems. We've enjoyed them immensely.
Well some people spend more just to ensure the battery isn’t gonna explode and for quality…
I use this bike as a normal bike and I love it, I still can do 35km in full assistance after 3 months
@THE HOAX OF BLACK VICTIMIZATION 2ND CHANNEL just assist however when you activate this mode it fly
Oh ya these go pretty damn good just on street , not too much invested either, my radster 1 scrambler Walmart model flys and is comfortable .
@damorafik you don’t find any problems with the bike on the road??
@@just_erick8372 absolutely nothing
It glides on streets
My partner and I each bought one of these bikes, and while I agree that it shouldn't be marketed as a mountain bike, it is certainly the best bike for a beginner to e-bikes in general. Yes, there are a few issues but when I consider the price difference between this and a "proper" e-bike, I have no regrets in purchasing the thing. I have been satisfied with its performance as long as I don't do any of the extreme biking tasks that you do. All in all, your review is accurate(especially about the chain falling off every now and then)
Thanks Eddie! This bike is a fantastic deal for street riding! Glad you're enjoying it!
Maybe call it mountain bike design looking (not to be used off road)
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I guess this bike will give you so many problems that it will make you hyper. I guess it's like any other Walmart bicycle that it's probably okay for very light use, like riding to a neighbor's house or sometimes like that but I'm sure that is not for any kind of rough terrain nor long distances.
It's not practical, safe, reliable and good quality. I am not trying to be rude but might as well throw that money away. The battery is cheap which makes them very susceptible to exploding.. It is worth it to spend 3 to 5 times more.
@@GreenSlug420 for that, I bought my ebike from Steve's bike shop which is a local bicycle shop. It costed $2k but so far, its lasted me for almost a year without problems. It looks like with all the problems that a Hyper ebike would give you, it will really make you very hyper.
We have a couple of these. I put on better forks, a suspension seat post and Shimano MT200 hydraulic brakes on them. We just ride them on mild trails and rail trails. I wouldn't hammer on it like I do my mountain bike. We have slightly over 1000 miles on them so far and no problems. We've enjoyed them immensely.
Such a good video dude! At $400 I wasn't expecting a lot but man, I'm surprised at how fast it fell apart. Good point about taking off the "Mountain” and just marketing it as a commuter bike.
Thanks dude. I'm sad it didn't last longer. I had big dreams of sending it on this bike, but now we'll never know.
I have been using one for 2 years and it is pretty good!
Can u drive it in normal mode assistance mode and full electric mode???
@@kingcubing3944do you still have it man? How is it? Thanks!
@@en_vyIt’s great! Be careful with it as it is a cheap bike, but if you use it as intended it’ll last a lifetime!
Yes!!!! I love Walmart bike reviews! Thank you. Thumbs up for the algorithm
Awesome! Appreciate the thumbs up and comment.
This guy has his head up somewhere. I just bought the cruiser version, and am really happy with it. Why does he think that a $400 bike would be perfect out of the box, when you have to assemble it yourself? Kyle, I made it a few seconds in and gave up, if you're a bike guy you know how ridiculously easy V brakes are to setup. Stop being a gate-keeper. These bikes are decent for the money. I've been riding bikes for 40 years. This is my first venture into E bikes, it's cheap. Don't buy a Hyundai and whine it doesn't perform like a Ferrari...
Bro, my search is over. You sold me on it 👊👌
Kyle: Bike, is your assist ever gonna kick in?
Bike: Hold my chain guard.
Lol!
I will say this. They did a very good job hideing the battery inside the bike frame.
I have to agree with you! If it didn't say electric all over it, you'd almost mistake it for an analog bike.
A 36 volt lithium powered bike with a brushless hub motor weighing in at 48 pounds for $400.
Ten years ago, A 24 volt sealed lead acid powered bike with a brushed motor weighing in at 70 pounds (Ezip Trailz) ran you $500.
It's nice to see how far along technology has progressed. This bike is a great deal for $400 for someone who will take it the same places the majority of us will go, which is the sidewalks and side roads. If the batteries are of any sort of decent quality and the bike isn't thrashed, a person could see a lot of use out of this value oriented machine.
I think 1/100 people will take it offroad. 99/100 people just want the cheapest ebicycle on market to ride (considerably alot faster than walking, without looking like a clown on small 14" wheels) on flat roads to work due to the ever increasing living cost .
now I want that bike 🤣🤣 Awesome review 🤙as always, sick edit 🤘
Good info. I’m looking at maybe still getting this bike because at Walmart it says you can get 4 year warranty for $50. It says it covers to motor for the whole 4 years. Seeing what your thoughts are.
I have now watched this video twice. I think I laughed even harder the second time. So great!!!
lol thanks so much Aaron! I had fun making this video!
Yeah, rear hub motors are dangerous on any kind of trails. They're meant for paved, city commutes. Even a $2500 bike with a powerful 1500w rear hub motor is also horrible for trails due to the delays. You want a mid drive for that since the torque sensor is much more sensitive and will work with you over the poor cadence sensor.
The review rocks. I saw a 500+ assist bike for sale and knowing they cost over 1500. I thought the price came down was getting ready to buy one then watched the many reviews and none of them were positive. So your views really help.
Thanks. STYC.
I bought this bike because the area I live in has a lot of hills and i was just peddling a regular mountain bike. Most of the time I had to get off and push up a hill. This bike was perfect for what I needed it for. And I have nothing negative to say about it and I chose this bike because I didn’t want to pay 800 or 1200 for a different model. So just riding around town this bike is definitely what I needed
I think your comparing apples to oranges. Good entry bike for light trails. Cadence sensing as you know is pretty standard on hub driven brushless motors vs torque sensing in the high end bikes. Also, you should mention customer service behind brands. Hyper founded by ex pro BMXER has excellent service and parts are available and shipped within a week vs high end brands that don’t provide the extent of parts or sevice. Just food for thought
Appreciate the info Michelle. I can't speak to Hypers customer service, but I don't doubt what you say. They do make really good BMX bikes. I wasn't trying to compare this bike to say a $10,000 E-Bike as there is clearly no comparison, but if I were to spend $400 for a first mountain bike this bike would not be on my shopping list.
I purchase this I don’t go off road so I think it’s pretty decent for the price since I just ride on the road
Yeah same here i ride it on the back roads and it runs fine
Great idea as a commuter bike. I might still be worried about the motor failing and I’d be huffing my way home with a 48 lb bike to pedal.
It sucked when I broke it cause I had to pedal it like 5 miles back to my car. I am curious how long this bike would last in normal street conditions.
"You asked for assist and that's what your going to get" - Says the e-bike lol
Its a great option as a bike for the non biking spouse to keep up with you on your gravel bike. Add $15 disc brake upgrade to back as it is a simple bolt on procedure. But front fork and wheel is not disk ready. If it lasts maybe change out front fork and wheel to disc setup. But not worth throwing another $150 at it.
Its always great fun when the wife rides on your draft in a head wind then laughs at you when she passes you going up hill.
Jin Pak Would you be kind enough to let me know the particulars on the rear disc? The wheels are not true, so the brakes had to be dialed back. ( making them less effective.
@@kevinmontgomery1383 the rear wheel hub can accept disc rotor and the frame has mounts for rear disc breaks. But the front fork and front wheel hub does not have mounts. Rear is as simple as buying a set off of ebay or Amazon and installing them.
In your case get a spoke tool off Amazon and try that first. It's cheap and keeping wheel true is very important. Lots of videos explaing how to do that.
Note any cable disk brakes will work using existing cables. The bike comes with electronic motor cutoff on the break levers so leaving that alone and getting a set of cheap breaks off Amazon will be best.
The upgrade to disc break has marginal gains. Good enough to easily stop the bike with only rear breaks on flats but most of the power in breaking comes from front..The brake line is not compressionless cable housing and wires so it will still feel mushy or spongy.
@@kevinmontgomery1383 rujoi bike disc brake kit
www.amazon.com/dp/B07TW7H3GX/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_3in9FbJDNC00G?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Is the set I got to attempt and rear install. Too much work to use adapter and get new front hub so I only did rear.
For just the rear www.amazon.com/dp/B07SYB2SJ8/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_zmn9FbRB21Q2N
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@@NotARealChef You are the Man! Thanks.
@@NotARealChef Ok Thanks again. Is there an electric connector so that you can pull the rear wheel to install?
More than what I would expect from the price, a nice trail bike for city trails.
me and my friend both have a Walmart e-bikes on year number two and they're still working great 😊
That's awesome! Glad to hear they are working for you both!
I bought mine and for my first Ebike it is pretty dope honestly
I'm not trippin but now I see those wheels they well with the hub motor built in and you just add that and throttle kit. Probably my next purchase
Considering the first mountain bikes were rigid…I think this bike is easily considered a mtn bike.
This video was epic and loved your brutal honesty. I would buy it for a street cruiser or beach bike where we live.
Glad you enjoyed it! For the street it would be a fun bike!
You're attempting to ride this MTB like a BMX bike. Can you explain the difference between a BMX and MTB bicycle? Just because they look alike, doesn't mean they should be ridden alike. ;-) For your next trick, I bet you take Touring bikes down Downhill courses.
It's not a trail bike. it's for people who want an ebike to ride on the street and want knobby tires. Why would you want an ebike for trails?
I would agree it isn't a trail bike and why I stated it shouldn't be marketed as such. Don't know if you follow trends in mountain biking, but nearly every major bike company is producing electric mtb's and they are quite popular.
I really enjoyed your SERIOUS humour, & thank you for reviewing,"the pebble punisher" be safe🤠
Thanks so much Timothy!
That was a hilarious review!!!
Thanks so much!
I am glad you beat one up and was honest about it.. Mind is going to be for city driving store and work :)
Thanks Jason! It was a lot of fun on the city streets and think you'll really enjoy it!
This was a fun review! I enjoyed the short time I rode it. If I had some extra cash to just throw around I'd buy it just to screw around in my neighborhood or on the greenway. I'm keeping my same cheesy joke: I'll take the chain off and call it the Layz-E-Bike!
Thanks. It was fun while it lasted. I'm sure you can buy this one gently used for Black Friday at a deep discount!
Get
--cheap narrow-wide chainring
--wide bars
--a decent used fork
she's golden
Thanks dude im going to buy one
O think this is an excellent opportunity to make a Frankenbike with your rusting top of range 26, with nice rims, brakes, forks and groupset and larger handlebar nice tyres... All the stuff everybody's have lying around ond the basement... And it could be a headturner and really fun to ride... And by the way a wrap on the frame!! Think about it!!
That would be a fun project. I considered keeping it and doing such a project, but I don't have any old 26" stuff anymore, and I definitely didn't want to dump more money into this thing lol.
This guy is a bike snob. I have had this bike for 2 years and it's great. It does need a few small upgrades and I'd recommend a new fork but other than that the battery lasts a long time. It's fast, well-built and very fun to ride. It's not for a pro but rather someone that enjoys hitting some trails from time to time (like most of us here). For a few hundred bucks you can make this a totally awesome bike. This dude should have upgraded the bike and told ya'll how to make it better, instead of just bitching about it.
Bike snob? Nah...I ride plenty of affordable bikes. I said in the video that the battery life was impressive, and that it was fun to ride on pavement. My intent behind this video was to save consumers from buying this bike thinking that it's an actual "mountain bike", and make an entertaining video. I feel like upgrading this bike would be a hassle and a waste of money. It didn't fit me, it has outdated standards that make it difficult to source parts, and by the time you do upgrade it...you've probably invested too much into it. Just my opinion. I'm happy you like yours, and feel free to make your own review about it.
@@CobraKyle can you recommend any other ebikes in the 5-600 price range?
Entitled POV for $400. I bought the Schwinn version as a spare and everyone loves it. It's top notch for the price point.
Those trails were insane, no wonder the why budget ebike wouldn’t hold up. I’d say it’s more of a cruise on the sidewalk bike
It's all about perspective. Those were all green/blue trails where I live. This bike is pretty great for the streets!
Reminds me of the time I took my “off road” package rental to the top of Mauna Kea and back down the “do not go this way unless you have an off road vehicle” trail.
We wrecked it. Hard. It was pretty funny actually. And no, we paid for it (well, our insurance did) despite pictures of the “off road” graphics we took.
Point: you can break ANYTHING if you don’t understand it’s limits.
You took a 400$ Walmart bike on a trail that would thrash most $2000 stock “real” MTB’s (I know this because the reviews of THOSE laugh harder than you at their “capability”…. Some people are just never happy unless it’ll navigate Everest).
So congrats. What’s next? Going to take a submarine from a happy meal down the Mariana Trench?
Gosh. I wonder what’ll happen????
For 400$ show us an ALTERNATIVE. Let alone a viable one. I bet $400 is around what you spend on a pedal. A single one…. Before you tackle the trails, and that’s awesome, but it’s not the purpose of this bike.
I think it’s far more funny you didn’t realize that…
upgraed the fork and put on disc breaks rear and front. then the bike should be pretty good
Hyper actually has a 29" version with disc brakes for $700. I have a feeling that one would be pretty rad to upgrade.
My Walmart e-bikes broke in the first months while biking uphill. Something snapped and although the battery was full and the bike could be ridden by peddling the pedal assist was lost. No one could fix it but it was still under the. Allstate warranty.
It's only made for pavement
Then they should probably call it the Hyper E-Ride Pavement Bike for good measure.
Review actually begins at 8:22.
Quite frankly, I question any e-bike that doesn't have disc brakes. I would question the chance of wet brakes while doing 20mph as a scary thought on any e-bike.
Yeah rim brakes on an E-bike is a terrifying idea.
My friend managed to changed the electronics for 100 and it works fantastic, stock battery is plenty for 30 mph. I think it would make a great budget frame+battery combo.
Now that would be super fun!
Lots of, probably even most, big box "mountain" bikes, both electric and entirely human powered, aren't.
They're "mountain bike style" commuter bikes.
Some of the Kent bikes even have warnings in the manual stating that they're not actually intended for mountain biking.
Great review on this bike, wish the wire didn't get cut, also love all your videos👍
Thanks Adam. I was hoping it would last longer too. The video could have been far more exciting if it lasted
That looked traumatizing! 50 lb e-bike on shoddy shocks, 26" wheels and rim brakes? Talk about a recipe for disaster haha Awesome video, always entertaining. I personally vote for Pebble Punisher, really emphasizes its performance limitations :P
lol it was horrifying! I hope Hyper sees this and legit changes the name to Pebble Punisher. I'll take that royalty deal lol
This has got to be the best review ever made 😄👍
did we just become ebike friends?
I agree with you. I spent 2k on an ebike and it has been awesome so far. My old mountain bike is an 2009 Alite 3000 and it has been great all these years for trails, light and good components and it is a 26 inch lol
I never comment on videos, but agree with Aaron Krause's comment. I watched this twice and my stomach is still hurting form laughing! Perfect.
I didn't laugh once tbh 🤷. Guess you're easily amused
So for someone that would be riding residential streets to work.. 4 mile round trip would you recommend it. Not wanting to break the bank. Just something to get me back and forth to work on good weather days
Kyle you should do the unthinkable and build this bike with some fancy parts. That would make for a weird, cool series!
I considered that for sure. They actually make a 29" version of this bike for taller riders and it has disc brakes. I think it's $700, but that is a strong contender for such a video series.
Mixed feelings. You could probably make about the same video with a non-powered $150 Walmart mountain bike, which is what this is, only with a motor. I'd be a little a little cautious of any mountain bike at this price range, $400 really just begins to open the door to adequate mountain bikes - that's about the price of a pair of Rockshox Judy Gold forks without the rest of the bicycle.
Having said that, the last time I was riding at a competitive level, Scott had still not discovered suspensions. The decades since then have not been especially kind, and I find the hills are getting steeper and the headwinds a little stronger. I'm also not going to see any jump in income soon unless social security has a massive overhaul.
So this looks pretty intriguing for somebody to use on the street at an affordable price. I don't need an e-bike that can smoke the rear tire. Their city bike looks tempting, but our street maintenance is pretty lousy and mountain bike wheels seem to hold up better. I'd get this, put a couple of Continental 2" street tires and a decent rack on it and call it an urban assault vehicle.
It would let me stay on a bike for another few years, and I could stop having to do dirty tricks to the grandkids bikes like deflating their tires and adjusting the brakes to rub so I can keep up...
Upgrade the fork, Derailleur, bars, stem and your good to go! 😂😂😂
lol that would be a good start. They do have a 29" version for $700 with disc brakes. That one might actually be worth upgrading.
OK but if you are only cruising around the neighborhood or on city streets to commute to work or school. Is it okay?
Pretty sweet bike- if it was 1980.
Right? All the outdated standards you can handle on one bike!
And you couldn't afford bike
it funny people for the last 2 years saying 26inch is dead for bikes but i still see mostly 26 inch everywhere more than most sizes lol!
anly size i seen that seem too come close to it is 700c
It says it is not for off road, night time riding, or rain, or wet conditions.
I liked very much the comment and advise. Thank you, because I am definetly one of the cheap bike buyer, that you rescued my life and risk your life. Very funny and original mae. Good luck for the future and I will subscribe!!
Thank you for preventing me from wasting my money! Seriously thank you!
Mountain bike these days just means it resembles mountain bikes lol.
This is just a cheap ebike nothing more , at that money it's a good option for commuting, fit kits to bikes and the parts cost more than this bike..
It seems like it just had a cheap chain guide it would have made a big difference. One step up fork and charge 50 bucks more.
The tires on the bike have to be upgraded And the suspension, excellent review and my apologies on the other comment I left . Its an ok beginner bike from very mild trails but better for the road
Great review! Awesome to see another San Antonian! Had just started riding again and broke my ankle. Can’t wait to get back on the trails…the easy ones. Lol Subscibed!
I think the spike compares to a lot of the $700 e-bikes
Pretty sure like almost all WalMart bikes, that one comes with a note that it is not intended for use as a mountain bike.
It came with a sticker not to "stunt" it or ride at night, but it's listed as a mountain bike, says it's for use on trails, so I reviewed it as such.
Stop with the reviewers testing a 400 dollar Walmart bicycle off-road. It's just called a mountain bike for tires and category. It's a suburban cruiser with 26in somewhat slightly mixed terrain tires. Use it for what it is.....not whet you want it to do
so if you don’t beat it up and just take it like walking trails and bike trails I think it would be a decent bike!!?
you know casual biking?
Cool video! You saved me some hassles and of course the $. You have a great narrating style. Also u r lucky to have those trails nearby (assuming it's nearby) I wish we had something like this in SD. (May be there is and I am not aware)
I see a lot of people have them .They take the battery 🔋off .Because walmart don't want take the craps back and the battery make the bike heavy
Hilarious video! Glad there's brave riders like you to take these insane risks so others don't have to. I just bought one of these to use as a winter work bike, so I'm not expecting much. I do like that this is a 26er, and a small-ish frame at that. I'm 5'7" so It works for me. (plus I still have a set of 26" winter tires around here to use) That said, I'm installing a disc brake on the rear before I even start to ride it. It has an IS disc mount on the frame and the rear hub takes a 6-bolt rotor. I'm planning on swapping out the steel crankset for a spare used alloy set I have sitting around. I was wondering if I could switch around the PAS sensor to the non-drive side while I do this?
Swapping PAS to the non-drive side works! Need to take the sensor out of its bracket and turn it around. (and follow the arrows for the magnet ring) Note, besides having a cheap steel crankset, it also has a weird bottom bracket. Cartridge on the drive side and cone & bearing ring on the non-drive side. (the sight of an old-school lock-ring on the non-drive cup had me worried) How weird is that? 86ed it along with the cranks.
Definitely not an off asphalt bike! It's a 250W street only bike that has an "off road look" to it. It should not see any dirt roads, much less big rocks, stumps, jumps, trails and the like! That's how I saw it b4 I purchased it and so far it's just fine for me @ 6'2 245lb. It is slightly small/underpowered but for the price I overlooked all that and knew that going into it. The motor takes a few seconds to kick in but once you know that you just start to pedal a few seconds b4 the uphill and it kicks in nicely. As long as you stick to the roads, don't jump it and treat it like a new born baby (with lots of babying and care) it will last long enough to get your 400 bucks out of it. At $800 regular price is a thumbs down for sure, @ $400 with these expectations I'm keeping it.
Buy it and fix the chain guard. A good deal for four hundy.
Yeah this bike is super cool if you keep it on the pavement. Now the world knows its limits!
Mine broke first trip out today. Broke where the gears meet the motor. Luckily I could still get home on just the motor
I just got the black and blue one. Love your video very help full''
*IF YOU LOSE YOUR BATTERY KEY IT COST $15 TO REPLACE IT PLUS $10 FOR POSTAGE* If your chain comes off and ruins your pedal assist sensor it costs $15 and ten dollars to mail you another one. And goood luck to anyone who gets that little witch Erma who answers the phone at the helpline. She damn sure doesn't need a customer service job.
I need some advice. I am looking from a bike around $500 or $600. I put together a 2 stroke kit but my health problems won't really allow me to ride it let alone enjoy it. I am a vet with a heart condition so what would you recommend for me this around my price range?
This is equal parts hilarious and informative well done
Great vid man! I think @KevCentral put it best when he said these bikes in a "mountain bike style". Haha.
Thanks Brian! That's a much more accurate description of this thing.
It’s not a dirt bike lol or even a trail bike like yeah it says mountain bike but that’s just the style it’s mainly meant for cruising…
To be fair, it's actually a pretty good road bike. Would be good for a casual cyclist or a commuter. Could go on some dirt paths as long as they're not too steep or bumpy. It's fatal flaw is the mountains!
when he said "it sounds like a hellcat." I was sold lmao
i just tried one of these and idk bro.. i could barely feel any assistance happening unless i was going slow on level ground
All I can say you are very funny and true review I say you put this together very well amen 🙏🏽 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
It needs a front derailer or clutch, seems promising, but i wonder the longevity of that battery
Is it bad I'm kinda wanting to buy this as a cheap city commuter? Pricier options I fear theft
Thanks for sharing Kyle!
For sure! Thanks for watching!
MAybe a solid fork and panniers. Commuter?
Great video! The only thing I didn't like about it, is that I didn't find out about this before you!
lol thanks Robert! I think there is still plenty to say about this bike if you want to own this fine piece of bicycle technology.
@@CobraKyle I’ll take your word for it and wait for the E unicycle to come out. I’ll show you all the perfect wheel size!
DO NOT buy this bike! DO NOT buy this bike! it's the cheapest components you can put on a bike and the frame sucks. Just sayin...
I have a Trek Rail 7 to ride on real mountain bike trails, but I could save on tires when riding with my wife on paved surfaces on her electric bike. I can still ride an electric bike without paying for a real electric bike.
Cadence sensors on eMTBs are just a freakin’ death trap 😅
I have two bikes with cadence sensor , I agree it takes a second for a motor to shut off or start up after you stop or start pedaling , but that's something you begin to compensate after first couple of rides , but there's no way cadence sensors are death traps , and not everyone can afford $3000 mid drive torque sensor equipped motor , plus this bike is more for getting to and from work or casual riding. What this gentleman did was comparable to someone taking a Honda civic offroading
@@vicsaggu4508 you can actually get ebikes with torque sensors for under $2k these days, including e-road bikes that weigh like 33lbs
This is never an 'off road' bike. Its a typical urban commuter. Period. PAS control and 'off road' does not go as the power you need is not immediately available.
but is it good just to ride around time, no off road, for a first time ebiker?
Yeah it's pretty cool for street riding. I did talk about that a bit in the video. If you are a bit taller, I would get the 29" wheel version for like $100 more I think. It also has disc brakes instead of rim brakes which is a nicer feature.
Pls make a compilation of best mtb below 500 dollars