Hi Micah. I can not thank you enough for literally changing my whole family's lives. We live at the bottom of the biggest hill in North London. The turning point for me was a "bike ride" - we pushed our bikes to the top of the hill - my 10 year old son got tired and we came back - some bike ride! I then discover and followed this video - using the brilliant idea of using hoverboard batteries but using hub motors instead. I used a 36V 250W front wheel hub motor for my first bike (a scrap bike project with my son) and then 36V 350W rear wheel hub motors on the bikes for the rest of my family. I packed the controller and battery inside a saddle bag and hid the wiring. We now cycle all the time. My son and I have just finished a 30 mile bike ride through the heart of London city (I just carried a couple of spare hoverboard batteries in my backpack - we get about 15 miles from 1 36V 5Ah hoverboard battery). I have electric bikes for ALL of my family for much less than my friend paid for his 1 electric bike). I would love to share some pictures if that is possible, could you please let me know how I can do that. Thanks so so much again. Mat
Thank you for all the help. I bike 20-22 miles a day for work and I'm using a 6 speed regular bicycle. Really can't afford much so this is looking promising.
Same I've been doing 16 miles a day for the passed month bc my truck broke down & been looking around for a kit its humbled me but up hill is what gets me good luck to ya
I've been building the motorized bikes for years and now I'm going to start doing electric bikes. Thanks for the info this looks like a great way to start.
Darren Cousins I think these comments are a bit unfair as I believe he’s demonstrated on other videos how to build an e-bike with kits, so it probably wasn’t necessary to show the whole build
@@xray364 an accurate title would have been "Finding parts online for a super cheap $183 eBike" if he included shipping into the cost. its stupid not too. its part of the cost. regardless of his other videos he the only thing he's "making" in this video is a list of parts. unless he adds a "Part: 1 finding parts" to the end of his current title and changes 182 to 183 (if that includes shipping) its going to get flak for being misleading. you might as well round that 80 something cents up to the nearest dollar.
The motor is where I always end up in "decision paralysis". So many options, so many configurations. Never wanting to make the wrong decision, I end up not getting one at all.
Yes, that is what this video is basically centralized around, and why it's such a good video. Also, there is always something in kits that are just not quite right. It's why I want to learn more about individual parts. And that is why this whole channel is great. Teaches me loads.
I came from ZERO knowledge to enough to pull the trigger on one kit. My bike is far from ordinary, the frame is an alien but is a awesome bike i bought it in 2000 at sams club for 75$ MOTIVE is the brand, never needed a tuneup or anything. Now that i had to take a part to install this kit, i see how well made this bike is. The worries you have to have is: pick your size of motor. I picked the 48v1000v hub, because i could not find a 48v500w with a good price. Second, the opening of the rear forks, usually is 5"1/4".Third: very important is the twist or thumb throttle, i opted for twist and my bike has a twist shift already, cant use it, i should opt for thumb, thumb throttle goes with every bike. Forth: your battery has to provide for your motor, i am building a 48v16A for this motor but. In the mean time i ma using a 36v8Ah battery that i found on the junkyard. And it works i was able to hit 28m/h but it hiccups a lot when i open the full throttle At once. I am very hand building and modifying stuff. If you are little handy, you will be fine.
User Comment: It is great to see that there are more options than getting a brand new electric bike. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience on the subject.Reply: Hi there! I completely agree with you. It's amazing to see the variety of options available in the e-bike market. Speaking of new projects, I recently came across a fascinating one called the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 eBike. It's a revolutionary bike that can be used both outdoors and indoors, and it has a unique feature where it can be charged in indoor mode! Super convenient, right? I'm really intrigued by its brushedless 750W motor and the fact that it offers an impressive top speed of 20mph. Definitely worth checking out! Keep exploring and sharing your thoughts, and happy riding!
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Who would have thought that this video would be very timely consider that the US is going into a depression. I love a smart guy that can come up with an effective plan and do things for himself then pat himself on the back and share his ideas with the world. In my book this is a fantastic guy. If he can make his own fire even better.
Guess there are some people not aware of what has been going on around the world since the end of January. There is a pandemic and its source is China. Most if not all of the parts have been sourced from China, why do you think there is no follow-up video. Come people, THINK!
I’m 73 year old woman, mechanically inclined with tinker experience. I’d love one of your books one the bike builds. This would be a super project for me.
I've worked as a mountain bike mechanic and at various bike shops in the Utah/Colorado area for many years now. That being said, these ebike conversion kits destroy bikes very quickly. People bring them in all the time to get repairs done and the damage is always very extensive and expensive. My recommendation if you do install these kits is do not cheap out on the bike you install them on. The higher quality the bike is, the more abuse the frame and components can take without causing permanent damage to them. And less damage means a more reliable, longer lasting build. With bikes, you definitely get what you pay for.
I want to say thank you because I've been trying to build one for my my brother who cannot drive and I'm getting tired of taking him to so I've been building the secret thank you
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Years ago when I built a weed whacker bike, the add for sale drew parents who were wanting to buy for their children. E bikes are a big hit with me today and your video is decent and helpful. Thank you.
When I first started your video, I wondered why anyone would want a hub motor. I was personally glad to see you go with a chain stylemotor because that's what electric motorcycles have.
Pretty neat, I did mine on the cheap, but not this cheap, my motor kit was $171.00 and my battery with charger & mount was $242.00, but my motor is 1000W and Battery is 48V 14AH for 1000W and I get a nice LED display.
Hey Micah, with the goal of buying on the cheap, but avoiding the chain motor pitfalls you came across, I brought a Voilamart 750w/1000w 48v rear hub motor kit ($241 through my PayPal credit account--no interest if paid off in 6 months)including shipping, taxes & 2 year warranty)with controller, thumb throttle, PAS, brake throttle kill, LCD, etc. Received it just a few days after I bought it, surprisingly. Mounted the tube and tire, but waiting til I get the battery(from China -which could take 2-3 weeks)to put it in on the bike. The battery, 48v 20ah cost me $138 +$30 shipping + $10 2 year warranty Also bought a headlight/horn, a bike lock for about $12, rain cover for $6, a rear rack for which I surmise I'll be mounting my battery, a couple of torque arms for rear hub. I paid $20 for the huffy bike All in all I'm in for about $500ish, which I'm good with considering the size of motor(have to keep it set on 750w to be street legal), the range and the extras. Thanks for all your guidance through your videos. Btw, I couldn't buy from aliexpress to save my life. I gave up on them. Something about populating their purchase info on their website is terribly wrong! I tried for 30 minutes to buy a mirror and then had to let go and move on.
It would be cool to have a ebike build - junk yard edition, where you repurpose things like an electric chainsaw and some laptops to make a fraken-ebike!
This was very nice of you to make this video. So many have lost jobs and cannot afford more. Bikes will see a comeback, and will be thankful for this!🙂
I like the budget focus here. Im looking for a Solid KIT in the $200 to $300 range. Something Higher performance and can compete with a standard 250w-500w ebike. A Middle Ground solution. Sometimes , paying a few bucks more can tremendously improve the final results.
Thank you for your work on the video. I have been struggling to find a way to build a kit on the cheap to see if an electric bike can fill the 2nd vehicle gap without investing a ton of money initially.
In 2018 I made my first e-bike. Nothing fancy, just under 200 euro, bicycle included. The hub motor wasn't mounted on the rim, so I had to use spare parts from an old bike I had. Tip: spokes from a 20' wheel work in a 26' rim and 250w geared hub motor. I bought the 18650 cells new from aliexpress, as the bms and the charger. From 70 euro I got a nice custom-shaped 36v 10ah pack. Also I had a bag laying around, so no money here. The bike itself was a 1990 high-end mountain bike. A little bit worn out, so it cost me only 30 euro. Keep in mind that I'm a student, and I still need a cheap transport. I ride it daily, and works like a charm. I'd say it was a good investment.
@@MinecraftManSteav Speed: On road, only motor, I get 25kmh (about 15mph). Add 25% when pedalling. Off road, even pedalling, can not go over 25k. I have to say that I live in a place where there are few strips of flat land. Maybe you could get better results. I usually get 50km(30m) in one charge. But as before, add 25% when pedalling and substract 25% going off road.
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My hub drive cost breakdown ---- 1000w 48v hub motor and controller $170, lipo batteries $140, other parts and stuff like connectors and torque arm $100. Total of just over $400. I have over 1400 miles on it, still works like new even through mud and rain.
basically, the motor bolts onto the back of the frame. the black triangular section is the mount, that attaches to the frame itself, then you attach the motor to that. this is a slightly different kit, but it installs in a very similar way: ua-cam.com/video/C5ZD4mQwyz8/v-deo.html
You can purchase a 26" brushless hub 36v 500 watt wheel off Ebay for $200. A 12.5ah 36v lithium battery pack for $230. That's awesome performance and will run reliably for years. I've built quite a few and they'll run 20 mph
I've been looking at making a motorcycle battery (for starting and lights, not for powering it) - nice to watch videos of someone talking from experience, giving sources of items that work, rather than from theory and speculation. Thanks
I have built an Ebike using the L-faster kit. It is really pretty simple but you do want to make sure you get the correct bike for this kit. I had to modify the motor bracket to fit the bike i wanted to use but wasn't that big of a problem if you can weld. I don't know about other kits but the left hand freewheel sprocket from L-faster will fall apart if you install it as packaged. They use a freewheel sprocket the is intended to be used on a right hand drive motor but just flip it around. The problem is that it has left handed treads so when the sprocket freewheels it will actually unscrew the retaining ring for the freewheel bearing. This is simple to fix with epoxy. I used some to connect the retaining ring to the motor adapter and it has worked very well. I have well over 300 miles on this bike with no issues. I have never had another Ebike so i can't do a comparison but i love the on i have.
I got basically the same motor and controller kit for $139 CDN and a 36V 20ah lion battery wit charger for about $100 CDN. As warned you need some basic fabrication skills to get the "Universal" motor mount fitting correctly but nothing too crazy. I installed on my wife's old bike and it works great. This was a pretty cool project to get into an ebike on the cheap. For serious riding you probably want to spend the extra cash and go with a wheel hub or crank motor.
I can't wait to see what your end result is going to be for your e-bike. I'm glad somebody took the time to find a cheaper solution for the e-bike that I can use.
And I've done the exact same thing for an electric ATV. I was going for 6 36v packs for 26.4ah but only 4 work so 17.6ah I got an extra heavy duty 36v controller and it's running a 24v geared motor. I don't run it for long periods but I do use it around my property pulling my wagon doing yardwork, but I've recently rebuilt a schwinn scooter and took the controller and battery and now that scooter pops wheelies and does over 20mph
Really great channel. Learning loads for upcoming build plus giving me the confidence to do it. Aiming for mid range build, but the principles all apply. Good work!
Micah, we budget builders on ES have been using these for a while. I use the scooter packs in 72V configuration for my Cyclone. But, I've also built a budget ebike for a friend for $150 without motor with 4X of these packs and a bike ($15 used). Its a good entry level bike with a 36V 500W hub motor. That being said, I would pay the $130 for 36V500W with var PAS hub motor, 3x batteries for $90 for a total of $220 then maybe $10 in materials. The PAS is key to ebikes I think. ALSO, I've worked with these packs, they are Chinese domestic cells and low grade at it; DO NOT DRAW 10A from the PACK. You will ruin the pack. I would do 5A max so 10A in your 2X configuration so180-360W. I've put 5k miles on the packs but when I literally maxed them out trying to get 50mph on my 72V Cyclone; they took serious dumps. Love to see this budget bike in action. See my build thread on this in my channel about the budget ebike if you like ^___^
Hi Micah, You actually talked me into making the leap. First we bought an inexpensive bike. Then we used your links and bought all the parts. We chose a 250 watt motor, etc. We had to tweak the motor mount to fit our bike. Then, it all went together. Rack over the back wheel to hold the battery pack and motor controller. It works. But after we spool up, the power shuts off. Thought maybe it was the b.m.s., so we put four battery pack in parallel. Each pack is 10s2p. No change. Tried a second controller. No change. Can you point me to a resource for troubleshooting this? Thanks for the video and keep up the great content. Dave
I might have it solved. 24v motor kit. 36v battery modules. You may want to caution noobs (like me) that multiple choices are present at most of the links and care must be exercised to get voltage matched components.
The correct 36v motor and controller solved most of the "cutting out" problems. It still cuts out if I accelerate hard from a stop. If I baby it up to speed it works. I ordered a 1000w 36v controller. I plan to use it to overvolt the 24v motor to see if I can bump the top end. It should be about 360w instead of the 250w it is spec'ed for along with higher rpm. Hoping I don't burn out the motor. If I do, I still have the 36v motor...
Thanks! I'm disabled and miss riding my bike but I'm afraid of not being able to get back home if I start feeling bad I'd like an adjunct motor for short rides. Ty!
Excellent video presentations Sir. Now, I’m 73 and living on a fixed income, but I’d really like to give this DIY ebike building a chance. Live close to a Play Again Sports, but they want an arm and a leg for a beat up old bicycle. Will check Craigslist. Keep up the great work, although you appear to be having so much fun.
my first ebike i bought a second hand hub wheel(36v 250w) for 50 euro a controller and throttle for 30 euro and i made the batterie from salvaged makita battery 18650 cells(free) 44v 12Ah charger and battery managment system for about 20 euro. thats a total of 100 euro,top speed 33kmph. by now its got at least 2000km on the odometer.
for those who are thinking about building this kit for your bike realize that you're buying a super cheap build over budget build. basically, the stage where you wished you spent the extra cash and time to buy better stuff instead of cheaping out and buying bottom tier stuff. I'm not talking about a huge cash increase I'm only talking about $50 to at least $100 more invested and you get a superior e-bike instead of a meh bike. first is the motor, hub motors are the most common for diy e bike they run anywhere from $150 to $200 the most common brand here on youtube from what I've seen is voilamart you can get a 1000w motor for about $156.99 on eBay, there's a kid on youtube that goes by eli's workshop that got this hub motor to go 40mph but he overvolted it by quite a lot and he probably only weighed 100 pounds at least. normally motors like this typically get around 20mph or 35 kph which in some areas is the most you can legally do in a e-bike and some areas limit by the watts and or voltage so be aware of the laws in your area. batteries are kind of tricky if you wanted new batteries I would go with lipos for 48volt you would need around $200 and for 36volt around $150 and they would perform a lot better than the balance board batteries. the next route would be to source 18650s from ebay or another source most of the good cells that you would want are around $0.50 to $1 for a 2200mah cell and a decent amp drain. you can even use this guys kit on vruzend.com to put it together the v1.6 kit cost $34.99 and holds 52 cells and the v2.1 kit cost $39.99 and holds 30 cells the difference is the v1.6 was very snug on the cell making it hard to make and take apart and the v2.1 he said to have fixed these things and of course v1.6 holds more than v2.1. I built my 13s 7p (52volt) about 14-15000mah battery for about $150 in total with the bms and it fits into the small ammo case you see everywhere, cheapest at harbor freight if on sale it's like $3. so for about $300-$350 and a little elbow grease you can get a quality e-bike for at least 1/4 the cost of a commercial one and would arguably perform the same if not better. if you really can't spend the money or are just really cheap look on craigslist or offerup(seems to be more popular app in my area to post things) I bought a hub motor for like $40 and if you're really lucky I got a sondors ebike(it said it was sonders but it seems they dont make this version anymore on the website) for $50 because the guy left the bike outside and the hub motor rusted up and he didn't know what was wrong with it, took maybe 30mins to fix/scrape all the rust out and bam a working e-bike aluminum frame, lcd, trigger shifter, dual disc brake. So remember if you really don't have money there are other ways to get parts and if you were really that desperate you would be trying, waiting, and searching every nook and cranny anyways so why rush it when you there will be a bargain on your next project in the near future. if you're just doing this on a whim and just want a ebike you're really looking in the wrong place. diy is very much a hobby that you need to invest in to get proper results you need tools, equipment and most importantly time that normal people cant invest into one project. Take it from me who started out with just the cheapest 3d printer(anet a8) and went on to make e-longboards moved on to e-bikes and now to e-scooters which imo is the better of the 3 because of size, control, and portability and e-scooters are very popular now to get into and was probably the one I should've started out with. If you want to get into e-scooters the razr electric scooter is the best and by far the most widely available since they've been making them for years. the first scooters i got were 2 e300 for $40 although they were in terrible condition but it got me started and now it runs with very little modification like a quality scooter with good torque and speed. these things are cheap I probably have like 10 e300 in the shed, because they're so cheap as the last group of scooters i bought, were 3 brand new e300 for $20 because he kept it for so long his wife forced him to get rid of it and he didn't know how to fix it and all they needed were new batteries. opportunities await you if you want to buy anything for diy or other purposes. I've regularly gotten items that were worth 10 or maybe even 20 times more on the open market so just wait and see how far your money will stretch with just a little time and patience.
thank you micah could you please recommend for me E-Bike i work in distribution newspaper so i need not so fast bike i need cheap one could you help me for that pls thank you again
Hey, man, I stumbled upon your channel recently and i like it! I am doing an e-bike project myself, and i ordered almost the same old-school kit like you chose in this video (only with a bit more motor power - 450W). I think it would be very useful info if you’d put the max speed with that motor, and more importantly, the range with that battery when making the next video... Thanks! Cheers :)
Using a car to get around town is like using a 30lbs sledgehammer to hang a small picture. Cars are best suited for long distance driving. Scooters and ebikes are the shit. No more registration, insurance, expensive maintenance, brakes, tires, taxed gas price and so much more.
I converted to recumbents and now, recumbent trikes. Just from this video and a look at your video titles I can see you are a wealth of info in an area I am interested in. I ALMOST sold a old Specialized Mnt Bike. Now I'm going to use it to have some hobby fun and do an intro to DIY EVO project with your info! Since it's winter I'll wait to see your build. Thanks....subscribed!
I have fitted this conversion it took a while to get it sorted changed rear wheel to a disc brake and mounted a good quality rear sprocket onto the disc mounting messed around with a few gear ratios now I am happy after my last upgrade to a 450w motor the whole kit including lithium battery 15000 man cost less than 200 UK pounds
Good video. My search brought this vid up right at top and it was exactly what I was seeking informationally. Hence the title and keywords the creator used seem perfect and spot on in every way. No point in trying to mince words any way or another. Truth knows no regulations. Great video!
When is the update video coming out? I am pretty sure that I am not the only one that wants to see the updated video and the assembly of the diy electric bike
Thank you for covering this! I built an ebike on the cheap by using a rear hub motor kit, but used 4 SLA alarm batteries. I wish I had known about the hoverboard LiIon options - the SLA pack weighs 34 lbs!!!
Can’t wait to see the build! You forgot to mention the bike you’re going to use... don’t go putting a chain motor on a nice frame!! Walmart special... that’s what I did. My rear hubmotor kit was only like $120... pretty affordable option too!
Omg, I just discovered the diy ebike option and I've been burning my sleep cycles researching this stuff! WHEN IS THE FOLLOW UP!? Seriously though, this is really cool, can't wait for the next installment.
you know theres a thing the ancient ones called a lead acid battery. they deliver more ah. i myself dont really agree with lithium as every batteries that i had that were lithium either caught fire, exploded or just failed entirely. lead acid or slas may be old but you dont have to take time putting cells together and all you gottah do is wire them up. they can deliver more amps than lithium (unless you have abunch of lithium cells.) and are just safer and more predictable. so people who are watching this i would recommend using lead acids for your build. you may even catch a higher top speed with the increased amps.(edit) forgot to mention theyre the same price and sometimes even cheaper then the hoverboard batteries shown in the video!!
This isn´t a "Making a bike" video. There´s no build at all. It´s more like "searching for cheap stuff in Aliexpress so your broke ass can make a mediocre electric bike"
I have had the habit of doing things with mid to trailing edge Tec. Works fine lasts long time. Proven stuff is what makes the world go around so this is high on my list to do.
So, it's March now and the kit from AliExpress is STILL on its way. Ordered back in January. Took a whole month to ship due to Chinese New Year and the damn corona virus shutdown. Same with the battery. Hopefully yours will arrive soon so you can make your video on it Had to go with AliExpress - the Amazon ones don't ship to Australia and Amazon Australia don't stock it Also that battery seller does 10Ah e-scooter batteries for a similar cost of two of those smaller ones. Thinking of gradually buying 3-4 of them for parallel use as funding allows. Just buy one every so often to extend the range
Correct me if I am wrong but, wouldn't lithoum polymer be a better battery source then lithium ion. Doesn't it have more power and hold its charge longer? Assuming people know how to safetly handle poylmers.
Hi
Micah. I can not thank you enough for literally changing my whole family's lives. We live at the bottom of the biggest hill in North London. The turning point for me was a "bike ride" - we pushed our bikes to the top of the hill - my 10 year old son got tired and we came back - some bike ride! I then discover and followed this video - using the brilliant idea of using hoverboard batteries but using hub motors instead. I used a 36V 250W front wheel hub motor for my first bike (a scrap bike project with my son) and then 36V 350W rear wheel hub motors on the bikes for the rest of my family. I packed the controller and battery inside a saddle bag and hid the wiring. We now cycle all the time. My son and I have just finished a 30 mile bike ride through the heart of London city (I just carried a couple of spare hoverboard batteries in my backpack - we get about 15 miles from 1 36V 5Ah hoverboard battery). I have electric bikes for ALL of my family for much less than my friend paid for his 1 electric bike). I would love to share some pictures if that is possible, could you please let me know how I can do that. Thanks so so much again. Mat
Have you considered uploading a video about the bike or the process? Would be cool
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that's actually why you were born, your father didn't read the instructions on the condom and you happened @@Jimmydeletgeorg
@@Jimmydeletgeorg Alright!
Thank you for all the help. I bike 20-22 miles a day for work and I'm using a 6 speed regular bicycle. Really can't afford much so this is looking promising.
Same I've been doing 16 miles a day for the passed month bc my truck broke down & been looking around for a kit its humbled me but up hill is what gets me good luck to ya
You must have some real powerful calves after all this.
My legs stay sore I can't imagine 20-22 miles 16s alot 😭& really it's the thighs 😩 🦵
My car broke down and half my check goes to Lyft. so I'm looking the same I can't pay 10k for a shit car to drive 4.00 a gallon
@@shawnvilayvanh2944 keep pumping man you are the engine! You are a powerful force!!
I've been building the motorized bikes for years and now I'm going to start doing electric bikes. Thanks for the info this looks like a great way to start.
title is a bit misleading, "should be buying parts for a cheap electric bike" there was no making invovled
Yup, definitely Wrong Title....Bait and Switch.
Thankyou
We probably have to subscribe, or pay for the actual building of the E-bike, or we will have to buy the book
Darren Cousins I think these comments are a bit unfair as I believe he’s demonstrated on other videos how to build an e-bike with kits, so it probably wasn’t necessary to show the whole build
@@xray364 an accurate title would have been "Finding parts online for a super cheap $183 eBike" if he included shipping into the cost. its stupid not too. its part of the cost.
regardless of his other videos he the only thing he's "making" in this video is a list of parts.
unless he adds a "Part: 1 finding parts" to the end of his current title and changes 182 to 183 (if that includes shipping) its going to get flak for being misleading.
you might as well round that 80 something cents up to the nearest dollar.
The motor is where I always end up in "decision paralysis". So many options, so many configurations. Never wanting to make the wrong decision, I end up not getting one at all.
Colin Richardson just buy a decent quality kit, that way you don’t need to worry about integration or what works together.
Yes, that is what this video is basically centralized around, and why it's such a good video. Also, there is always something in kits that are just not quite right. It's why I want to learn more about individual parts. And that is why this whole channel is great. Teaches me loads.
I came from ZERO knowledge to enough to pull the trigger on one kit. My bike is far from ordinary, the frame is an alien but is a awesome bike i bought it in 2000 at sams club for 75$ MOTIVE is the brand, never needed a tuneup or anything. Now that i had to take a part to install this kit, i see how well made this bike is. The worries you have to have is: pick your size of motor. I picked the 48v1000v hub, because i could not find a 48v500w with a good price. Second, the opening of the rear forks, usually is 5"1/4".Third: very important is the twist or thumb throttle, i opted for twist and my bike has a twist shift already, cant use it, i should opt for thumb, thumb throttle goes with every bike. Forth: your battery has to provide for your motor, i am building a 48v16A for this motor but. In the mean time i ma using a 36v8Ah battery that i found on the junkyard. And it works i was able to hit 28m/h but it hiccups a lot when i open the full throttle At once. I am very hand building and modifying stuff. If you are little handy, you will be fine.
Just buy a real electric bike dude
@@reggiecorey4573 But I don't want an electric bike, I want an electric motor for other projects.
It is great to see that there are more options than getting a brand new electric bike. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience on the subject.
User Comment: It is great to see that there are more options than getting a brand new electric bike. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience on the subject.Reply: Hi there! I completely agree with you. It's amazing to see the variety of options available in the e-bike market. Speaking of new projects, I recently came across a fascinating one called the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 eBike. It's a revolutionary bike that can be used both outdoors and indoors, and it has a unique feature where it can be charged in indoor mode! Super convenient, right? I'm really intrigued by its brushedless 750W motor and the fact that it offers an impressive top speed of 20mph. Definitely worth checking out! Keep exploring and sharing your thoughts, and happy riding!
Finally a project that i can invest in :D
And Hassan, we want to see your investment grade bike! 🚲 👍
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Save yourself hassle buy a 36v 500w rear hub kit £150 off amazon and 2 hoverboard batteries £100 and enjoy
He released an update video and it doesn't work
@@d0wnl0ad really ?
Who would have thought that this video would be very timely consider that the US is going into a depression. I love a smart guy that can come up with an effective plan and do things for himself then pat himself on the back and share his ideas with the world. In my book this is a fantastic guy. If he can make his own fire even better.
When is the update coming out?!?!?!? We want to see the bike and it’s performance!
Same. When?
Same here
Guess there are some people not aware of what has been going on around the world since the end of January. There is a pandemic and its source is China. Most if not all of the parts have been sourced from China, why do you think there is no follow-up video. Come people, THINK!
@@Hoggdoc1946 Fair point however my products from China are still coming and mostly quicker.. Quicker than Amazon.
Yes! promises... promises...
I’m 73 year old woman, mechanically inclined with tinker experience. I’d love one of your books one the bike builds. This would be a super project for me.
When are you going to put it together? I am anxiously waiting. Thanks for all you do.
Same
He finally posted the update, dont do it!
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I've worked as a mountain bike mechanic and at various bike shops in the Utah/Colorado area for many years now. That being said, these ebike conversion kits destroy bikes very quickly. People bring them in all the time to get repairs done and the damage is always very extensive and expensive. My recommendation if you do install these kits is do not cheap out on the bike you install them on. The higher quality the bike is, the more abuse the frame and components can take without causing permanent damage to them. And less damage means a more reliable, longer lasting build. With bikes, you definitely get what you pay for.
On level ground you should be alright right?
I want to say thank you because I've been trying to build one for my my brother who cannot drive and I'm getting tired of taking him to so I've been building the secret thank you
Alivia Vaughn is this bike for Sheldon cooper?
Nice sister don't want to leave your brother with no wheels.caring person
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Years ago when I built a weed whacker bike, the add for sale drew parents who were wanting to buy for their children. E bikes are a big hit with me today and your video is decent and helpful. Thank you.
When I first started your video, I wondered why anyone would want a hub motor. I was personally glad to see you go with a chain stylemotor because that's what electric motorcycles have.
What happened to the follow up video for the actual build?
Look forward to seeing you actually build it!
I would like to see the video of the bike put together but this was pretty informative on buying the park
You could see the grin on his face as he accepts the fact that he's actually "splurging" on a $1.21... 😂🤣
Did you ever make the "building it" video? I was scrolling through your library and didn't see any titles that looked like the follow up.
Pretty neat, I did mine on the cheap, but not this cheap, my motor kit was $171.00 and my battery with charger & mount was $242.00, but my motor is 1000W and Battery is 48V 14AH for 1000W and I get a nice LED display.
Hey Micah, with the goal of buying on the cheap, but avoiding the chain motor pitfalls you came across, I brought a Voilamart 750w/1000w 48v rear hub motor kit ($241 through my PayPal credit account--no interest if paid off in 6 months)including shipping, taxes & 2 year warranty)with controller, thumb throttle, PAS, brake throttle kill, LCD, etc. Received it just a few days after I bought it, surprisingly. Mounted the tube and tire, but waiting til I get the battery(from China -which could take 2-3 weeks)to put it in on the bike.
The battery, 48v 20ah cost me $138 +$30 shipping + $10 2 year warranty
Also bought a headlight/horn, a bike lock for about $12, rain cover for $6, a rear rack for which I surmise I'll be mounting my battery, a couple of torque arms for rear hub.
I paid $20 for the huffy bike
All in all I'm in for about $500ish, which I'm good with considering the size of motor(have to keep it set on 750w to be street legal), the range and the extras.
Thanks for all your guidance through your videos.
Btw, I couldn't buy from aliexpress to save my life. I gave up on them. Something about populating their purchase info on their website is terribly wrong! I tried for 30 minutes to buy a mirror and then had to let go and move on.
Btw, bought everything through ebay.
It would be cool to have a ebike build - junk yard edition, where you repurpose things like an electric chainsaw and some laptops to make a fraken-ebike!
This was very nice of you to make this video. So many have lost jobs and cannot afford more. Bikes will see a comeback, and will be thankful for this!🙂
I am looking forward to seeing how well this bike performs.
I like the budget focus here. Im looking for a Solid KIT in the $200 to $300 range. Something Higher performance and can compete with a standard 250w-500w ebike. A Middle Ground solution. Sometimes , paying a few bucks more can tremendously improve the final results.
Thank you for your work on the video. I have been struggling to find a way to build a kit on the cheap to see if an electric bike can fill the 2nd vehicle gap without investing a ton of money initially.
Did they end up making the actual build video?
for real though, if those hoverboard packs have 20 cells in them, that's about $1.61 per cell. pretty smoking deal...
You can buy them for £1.20p each.
For anyone looking for the followup, it's called "Do NOT buy this $103 electric bike conversion kit"
In 2018 I made my first e-bike. Nothing fancy, just under 200 euro, bicycle included. The hub motor wasn't mounted on the rim, so I had to use spare parts from an old bike I had. Tip: spokes from a 20' wheel work in a 26' rim and 250w geared hub motor. I bought the 18650 cells new from aliexpress, as the bms and the charger. From 70 euro I got a nice custom-shaped 36v 10ah pack.
Also I had a bag laying around, so no money here. The bike itself was a 1990 high-end mountain bike. A little bit worn out, so it cost me only 30 euro.
Keep in mind that I'm a student, and I still need a cheap transport. I ride it daily, and works like a charm. I'd say it was a good investment.
What's speed and range like?
@@MinecraftManSteav Speed:
On road, only motor, I get 25kmh (about 15mph). Add 25% when pedalling. Off road, even pedalling, can not go over 25k. I have to say that I live in a place where there are few strips of flat land. Maybe you could get better results.
I usually get 50km(30m) in one charge. But as before, add 25% when pedalling and substract 25% going off road.
I bought a 72V 3000W rated BLDC kit for a pitbike for only 200€. Putting that in a pit bike with selfmade Li-ion battery. Thanks for helpful videos!
Might consider this, I live in Da Nang, Vietnam, beautiful city to ride bikes.
sure, go ahead.
These my1016z2 250W 24V kits are available in India for about Rs 7000 (100 USD), I am using one for past 6 months, works perfectly.
We have cheap 250w/350w conversion kit, free the contact if you want to know more: sales03@ncyclebike or Whatsapp: +86 13328189703. Ncyclebike in China: www.ncyclebike.en.alibaba.com
I hope you dont have any hills
My hub drive cost breakdown ---- 1000w 48v hub motor and controller $170, lipo batteries $140, other parts and stuff like connectors and torque arm $100. Total of just over $400. I have over 1400 miles on it, still works like new even through mud and rain.
When are u publishing how to mount it its been 1 month I m waiting. I m sorry i m looking to buy it just need your approval sir.
basically, the motor bolts onto the back of the frame. the black triangular section is the mount, that attaches to the frame itself, then you attach the motor to that.
this is a slightly different kit, but it installs in a very similar way: ua-cam.com/video/C5ZD4mQwyz8/v-deo.html
I'm thinking because this is below his usual type of build.
You can purchase a 26" brushless hub 36v 500 watt wheel off Ebay for $200. A 12.5ah 36v lithium battery pack for $230. That's awesome performance and will run reliably for years. I've built quite a few and they'll run 20 mph
You're looking a lot better Micah.
amazing what a blurry background does ;-)
UA-cam: you know you could put mid roll ads in you’re video right? It’s 12:03
Ebike School: Mid roll ads? I barley know her
Looking forward to seeing the build on these parts, and maybe a short performance review.
hahahah i just saw it lmao he hated it
the motor woulnt line up
I've been looking at making a motorcycle battery (for starting and lights, not for powering it) - nice to watch videos of someone talking from experience, giving sources of items that work, rather than from theory and speculation. Thanks
Did you build it?
Anxiously waiting for the results!
Yes and me.
I have built an Ebike using the L-faster kit. It is really pretty simple but you do want to make sure you get the correct bike for this kit. I had to modify the motor bracket to fit the bike i wanted to use but wasn't that big of a problem if you can weld. I don't know about other kits but the left hand freewheel sprocket from L-faster will fall apart if you install it as packaged. They use a freewheel sprocket the is intended to be used on a right hand drive motor but just flip it around. The problem is that it has left handed treads so when the sprocket freewheels it will actually unscrew the retaining ring for the freewheel bearing. This is simple to fix with epoxy. I used some to connect the retaining ring to the motor adapter and it has worked very well. I have well over 300 miles on this bike with no issues. I have never had another Ebike so i can't do a comparison but i love the on i have.
wow, good project! always love seeing the budget end of things, lets me know whats possible in a pinch
I never even considered an ebike. I saw a suggestion on FB travel trailer page. Great content
Thanks, this is the price point that I would consider trying an e-bike. I look forward to seeing how the build comes out.
I got basically the same motor and controller kit for $139 CDN and a 36V 20ah lion battery wit charger for about $100 CDN. As warned you need some basic fabrication skills to get the "Universal" motor mount fitting correctly but nothing too crazy. I installed on my wife's old bike and it works great. This was a pretty cool project to get into an ebike on the cheap. For serious riding you probably want to spend the extra cash and go with a wheel hub or crank motor.
Important question: Is this Motor waterproof?
... Yes... a very most vitally important quest-ion !!! ...
You might make it waterproof with carefully selected lubricant and water repellant.
It can be waterproof, this is Vicky from Ncyclebike in China, if want to know more, please feel free to contact : sales03@ncyclebike.com
NO! of course not. Dummy
was there ever a follow up to this?
I might try this! I want an ebike, but I don't want to spend $2k CDN on one yet. Thanks for the info!
Been toying with the idea for a hot second. Thanks for giving me a starting point.
Legend says he never got the parts.
And they still float through the nether to this day!
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Just read your book this week on diy lithium batteries. Could not put it down until I finished it. ...amazing.
looking foreward to the video with a sincere thank you."Michael"
This is so cute
I can't wait to see what your end result is going to be for your e-bike. I'm glad somebody took the time to find a cheaper solution for the e-bike that I can use.
Connecting batteries like that literally detonates them, its stupidly irresponsible to say to just hook em up
Ebay has good deals as well, this chain kit goes around $90 and 500w brushless hub kit for $135
I am so glad someone finally did this, tysm
@@nc3826 lol
And I've done the exact same thing for an electric ATV. I was going for 6 36v packs for 26.4ah but only 4 work so 17.6ah I got an extra heavy duty 36v controller and it's running a 24v geared motor. I don't run it for long periods but I do use it around my property pulling my wagon doing yardwork, but I've recently rebuilt a schwinn scooter and took the controller and battery and now that scooter pops wheelies and does over 20mph
Really great channel. Learning loads for upcoming build plus giving me the confidence to do it. Aiming for mid range build, but the principles all apply. Good work!
Micah, we budget builders on ES have been using these for a while. I use the scooter packs in 72V configuration for my Cyclone. But, I've also built a budget ebike for a friend for $150 without motor with 4X of these packs and a bike ($15 used). Its a good entry level bike with a 36V 500W hub motor.
That being said, I would pay the $130 for 36V500W with var PAS hub motor, 3x batteries for $90 for a total of $220 then maybe $10 in materials. The PAS is key to ebikes I think. ALSO, I've worked with these packs, they are Chinese domestic cells and low grade at it; DO NOT DRAW 10A from the PACK. You will ruin the pack. I would do 5A max so 10A in your 2X configuration so180-360W. I've put 5k miles on the packs but when I literally maxed them out trying to get 50mph on my 72V Cyclone; they took serious dumps. Love to see this budget bike in action. See my build thread on this in my channel about the budget ebike if you like ^___^
Loved your DIY lithium ion batteries book and i really wanna read the DIY solar book.
Good job, friend
you're sounding like a aliexpress shopkeeper, they also say friend everytime they have a new customer.
Hi Micah,
You actually talked me into making the leap. First we bought an inexpensive bike. Then we used your links and bought all the parts. We chose a 250 watt motor, etc. We had to tweak the motor mount to fit our bike. Then, it all went together. Rack over the back wheel to hold the battery pack and motor controller.
It works. But after we spool up, the power shuts off. Thought maybe it was the b.m.s., so we put four battery pack in parallel. Each pack is 10s2p. No change. Tried a second controller. No change.
Can you point me to a resource for troubleshooting this?
Thanks for the video and keep up the great content.
Dave
I might have it solved. 24v motor kit. 36v battery modules. You may want to caution noobs (like me) that multiple choices are present at most of the links and care must be exercised to get voltage matched components.
The correct 36v motor and controller solved most of the "cutting out" problems. It still cuts out if I accelerate hard from a stop. If I baby it up to speed it works. I ordered a 1000w 36v controller. I plan to use it to overvolt the 24v motor to see if I can bump the top end. It should be about 360w instead of the 250w it is spec'ed for along with higher rpm. Hoping I don't burn out the motor. If I do, I still have the 36v motor...
this really satisfies my cheap-ass nature. Looking forward to seeing the build.
Thanks! I'm disabled and miss riding my bike but I'm afraid of not being able to get back home if I start feeling bad I'd like an adjunct motor for short rides. Ty!
Excellent video presentations Sir. Now, I’m 73 and living on a fixed income, but I’d really like to give this DIY ebike building a chance. Live close to a Play Again Sports, but they want an arm and a leg for a beat up old bicycle. Will check Craigslist. Keep up the great work, although you appear to be having so much fun.
my first ebike i bought a second hand hub wheel(36v 250w) for 50 euro a controller and throttle for 30 euro and i made the batterie from salvaged makita battery 18650 cells(free) 44v 12Ah charger and battery managment system for about 20 euro. thats a total of 100 euro,top speed 33kmph. by now its got at least 2000km on the odometer.
by now the motor is getting bad, the bearings really do not like the extra vibrations of the overvolting the motor.
I’m looking forward to seeing you put these parts together. A great concept.
for those who are thinking about building this kit for your bike realize that you're buying a super cheap build over budget build. basically, the stage where you wished you spent the extra cash and time to buy better stuff instead of cheaping out and buying bottom tier stuff. I'm not talking about a huge cash increase I'm only talking about $50 to at least $100 more invested and you get a superior e-bike instead of a meh bike.
first is the motor, hub motors are the most common for diy e bike they run anywhere from $150 to $200 the most common brand here on youtube from what I've seen is voilamart you can get a 1000w motor for about $156.99 on eBay, there's a kid on youtube that goes by eli's workshop that got this hub motor to go 40mph but he overvolted it by quite a lot and he probably only weighed 100 pounds at least. normally motors like this typically get around 20mph or 35 kph which in some areas is the most you can legally do in a e-bike and some areas limit by the watts and or voltage so be aware of the laws in your area.
batteries are kind of tricky if you wanted new batteries I would go with lipos for 48volt you would need around $200 and for 36volt around $150 and they would perform a lot better than the balance board batteries. the next route would be to source 18650s from ebay or another source most of the good cells that you would want are around $0.50 to $1 for a 2200mah cell and a decent amp drain. you can even use this guys kit on vruzend.com to put it together the v1.6 kit cost $34.99 and holds 52 cells and the v2.1 kit cost $39.99 and holds 30 cells the difference is the v1.6 was very snug on the cell making it hard to make and take apart and the v2.1 he said to have fixed these things and of course v1.6 holds more than v2.1. I built my 13s 7p (52volt) about 14-15000mah battery for about $150 in total with the bms and it fits into the small ammo case you see everywhere, cheapest at harbor freight if on sale it's like $3.
so for about $300-$350 and a little elbow grease you can get a quality e-bike for at least 1/4 the cost of a commercial one and would arguably perform the same if not better. if you really can't spend the money or are just really cheap look on craigslist or offerup(seems to be more popular app in my area to post things) I bought a hub motor for like $40 and if you're really lucky I got a sondors ebike(it said it was sonders but it seems they dont make this version anymore on the website) for $50 because the guy left the bike outside and the hub motor rusted up and he didn't know what was wrong with it, took maybe 30mins to fix/scrape all the rust out and bam a working e-bike aluminum frame, lcd, trigger shifter, dual disc brake. So remember if you really don't have money there are other ways to get parts and if you were really that desperate you would be trying, waiting, and searching every nook and cranny anyways so why rush it when you there will be a bargain on your next project in the near future.
if you're just doing this on a whim and just want a ebike you're really looking in the wrong place. diy is very much a hobby that you need to invest in to get proper results you need tools, equipment and most importantly time that normal people cant invest into one project. Take it from me who started out with just the cheapest 3d printer(anet a8) and went on to make e-longboards moved on to e-bikes and now to e-scooters which imo is the better of the 3 because of size, control, and portability and e-scooters are very popular now to get into and was probably the one I should've started out with.
If you want to get into e-scooters the razr electric scooter is the best and by far the most widely available since they've been making them for years. the first scooters i got were 2 e300 for $40 although they were in terrible condition but it got me started and now it runs with very little modification like a quality scooter with good torque and speed. these things are cheap I probably have like 10 e300 in the shed, because they're so cheap as the last group of scooters i bought, were 3 brand new e300 for $20 because he kept it for so long his wife forced him to get rid of it and he didn't know how to fix it and all they needed were new batteries. opportunities await you if you want to buy anything for diy or other purposes. I've regularly gotten items that were worth 10 or maybe even 20 times more on the open market so just wait and see how far your money will stretch with just a little time and patience.
thank you
micah
could you please recommend for me E-Bike i work in distribution newspaper so i need not so fast bike i need cheap one could you help me for that pls
thank you again
I built 5 ebikes using cheap kits, but NOT the chain kit. One of them is a Tongsheng mid drive, but I love the hub kits just as much.
Hey, man, I stumbled upon your channel recently and i like it! I am doing an e-bike project myself, and i ordered almost the same old-school kit like you chose in this video (only with a bit more motor power - 450W). I think it would be very useful info if you’d put the max speed with that motor, and more importantly, the range with that battery when making the next video... Thanks! Cheers :)
Using a car to get around town is like using a 30lbs sledgehammer to hang a small picture. Cars are best suited for long distance driving. Scooters and ebikes are the shit. No more registration, insurance, expensive maintenance, brakes, tires, taxed gas price and so much more.
Take out a loan for a “Real McCoy”
I converted to recumbents and now, recumbent trikes. Just from this video and a look at your video titles I can see you are a wealth of info in an area I am interested in.
I ALMOST sold a old Specialized Mnt Bike. Now I'm going to use it to have some hobby fun and do an intro to DIY EVO project with your info! Since it's winter I'll wait to see your build. Thanks....subscribed!
cant afford connectors?
just solder everything
Yeah because a proper solder gun, resin, solder is way cheaper than a couple connectors lol
How about just electric tape it and pray;)
This is one cheap ebike conversion that I might really try to make. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and this kind of projects. Keep them coming!
I have fitted this conversion it took a while to get it sorted changed rear wheel to a disc brake and mounted a good quality rear sprocket onto the disc mounting messed around with a few gear ratios now I am happy after my last upgrade to a 450w motor the whole kit including lithium battery 15000 man cost less than 200 UK pounds
A lot of yada’s and blah blah’s ! But where is the bike?
Good video. My search brought this vid up right at top and it was exactly what I was seeking informationally.
Hence the title and keywords the creator used seem perfect and spot on in every way. No point in trying to mince words any way or another. Truth knows no regulations. Great video!
Looking forward to seeing this build! Thank you for your contributions! 🤓🙏
Thanks for info on batteries. Building a snow cart out of a old kayak. Cant wait!
One roll of red wire and painting it black. That's me as well 😂
Was this ever built?
I want to put lipstick on him....
Lol
When is the update video coming out? I am pretty sure that I am not the only one that wants to see the updated video and the assembly of the diy electric bike
Thank you for covering this! I built an ebike on the cheap by using a rear hub motor kit, but used 4 SLA alarm batteries. I wish I had known about the hoverboard LiIon options - the SLA pack weighs 34 lbs!!!
SLA's were a good option in the 1990's.
@@edwardfletcher7790 I upgraded to LiIon the following year, once I knew I was keeping the kit rather than buying a new ebike.
Can’t wait to see the build! You forgot to mention the bike you’re going to use... don’t go putting a chain motor on a nice frame!! Walmart special... that’s what I did. My rear hubmotor kit was only like $120... pretty affordable option too!
I build this exact kit last year for my bike and its great and it's affordable !
I've been trying to make a cheap ebike for a while now. This video is real helpful. Thanks
Omg, I just discovered the diy ebike option and I've been burning my sleep cycles researching this stuff! WHEN IS THE FOLLOW UP!? Seriously though, this is really cool, can't wait for the next installment.
Thankyou man, you're a true inspiration! Starting an ebike project myself in Zimbabwe, would love to engage with you one time.
SUPER excited to see how this turns out. Should be a great to compare this bike vs. the more expensive kits
you know theres a thing the ancient ones called a lead acid battery. they deliver more ah. i myself dont really agree with lithium as every batteries that i had that were lithium either caught fire, exploded or just failed entirely. lead acid or slas may be old but you dont have to take time putting cells together and all you gottah do is wire them up. they can deliver more amps than lithium (unless you have abunch of lithium cells.) and are just safer and more predictable. so people who are watching this i would recommend using lead acids for your build. you may even catch a higher top speed with the increased amps.(edit) forgot to mention theyre the same price and sometimes even cheaper then the hoverboard batteries shown in the video!!
This isn´t a "Making a bike" video. There´s no build at all. It´s more like "searching for cheap stuff in Aliexpress so your broke ass can make a mediocre electric bike"
Will you make an update?
I have had the habit of doing things with mid to trailing edge Tec. Works fine lasts long time.
Proven stuff is what makes the world go around so this is high on my list to do.
So, it's March now and the kit from AliExpress is STILL on its way. Ordered back in January. Took a whole month to ship due to Chinese New Year and the damn corona virus shutdown. Same with the battery. Hopefully yours will arrive soon so you can make your video on it
Had to go with AliExpress - the Amazon ones don't ship to Australia and Amazon Australia don't stock it
Also that battery seller does 10Ah e-scooter batteries for a similar cost of two of those smaller ones. Thinking of gradually buying 3-4 of them for parallel use as funding allows. Just buy one every so often to extend the range
My friend is really cheap and has his mind set on building his own ebike so I am fixing to pass this on to him, thanks 😊
By far the best DIY video I have ever seen. Thank you and God bless you and yours.
Correct me if I am wrong but, wouldn't lithoum polymer be a better battery source then lithium ion. Doesn't it have more power and hold its charge longer? Assuming people know how to safetly handle poylmers.
Thank you for putting out these Videos. I learned so much just watching.