This year Florida passed legislation making E-Bikes the same thing as a regular bicycle. No permit or special license required. Legal to go on any road, trail, or path designated for regular bikes, including non-motorized vehicle routes.
In reality law enforcement will probably never bother you,unless you are grossly violating the laws or you get in a serious accident,so ride safe and keep the rubber side down. Great video,very informative.
My local grocery stores are slightly down hill from me. When I'm loaded with groceries, my nearly 70 yr old behind has a little difficulty getting up the inclines. Adding pedal assist means I now maintain a regular speed. I'm better balanced, safer. I only turn it on when going up hill, so my battery lasts a very long time.
Law enforcement won't bother you if you obey laws and rules of the road and wear a helmet in other words don't be a dick ! That just pisses motorists off and pressure politicians for more laws, be safe and responsible and nobody will care .😁
I went to a council meeting dealing with the new (at the time) federal bicycle law and how it will relate to bicycle and walking trails in the area. None of the council members had ever been on those trails. They wanted to ban e-bikes from use on those trails. Because none of them had ever been on those trails they never experienced Roadies on expensive road bikes riding in groups riding a lot faster than 20 mph. I explained it was doubtful they would ride at maximum speed as that depletes the battery faster than just cruising at typical manual bicycle speed's. I then let them see a video of a group of Roadies riding past at high speed on a popular section of the trail everyone would recognize. The result was the posting of 15 mph speed limits on the trails and no longer worrying about e-bikes on the trails.
They allow cars on the highway that can do 200 miles an hour and don’t out law them but want to outlaw e-bikes because they go faster than a pedal bike. You don’t have to use all that speed all the time, but it is nice when you need it.
@@allgoo1990 I really don't see your point here. You may be right about family outings, but you are totally not right about anything else. He specifically stated that he showed the council a group of riders that were going past pedestrians at most dangerous speeds. More than likely even faster than an ebike could. He also stated that the council concluded that posting a speed limit of 15 Mph would help this dangerous situation. Of course, being Americans, they won't give a shit and ignore that posted limit anyway. What would be really funny to see is, the government putting up a netting system that would pop up in front of anything going faster than 15 Mph. I would even pay to see something like that. LMAO "There are powered bicycles passing them at 30 mph (ALL THE TIME, I'd say more than half are e-bikes, many of them without pedaling, E-mopeds)). Do you think that's safe?" I'd say safer than 40+ Mph done by bicycle riders. It doesn't matter if you are Pedalling, motoring, coasting, or whatever. It doesn't change the fact that either way it will really injure someone the same way. You need to stop badgering a person for a legitimate comment. Probably the most legitimate and relative comment on here. Also, have you ever seen a policeman on a bicycle trail at all? If your answer is "yes", you are lying.
@@allgoo1990 Are you kidding me right now? You are calling me dumb? I see no relevance on being dumb. It's obvious that you didn't read my comment thoroughly. I said nothing dumb? WTF does a golf cart on the freeway go to do with anything I said. "Have you ever seen an E-bike going at 30 mph passing right next to 5 yr old going 10mph? Who will be responsible if he or she hit the kid and kill the kid? If you still don't see the point you are hopelessly dumb.". This also has no relevance at all in what I said. "There's a place for E-bike, not on the bicycle trail. You still don't get it?". Again, WTF does this have to do with what I said? "True or false? Paul Reeder is dumb." And I guess this makes you smart? All of your statements about me being dumb, just shows how dumb you are. Sorry. Might I suggest you go back and re-read what I said. Maybe this time your dumbass can interpret it the right way. I am so sorry dude, but you make no sense whatsoever.
When I was 13 in the ‘60s my buddies +I rode 50cc mopeds and Briggs+Stratten 2.5hp motors on diy tube frames. No license, No traffic. It was 🤩 fun, no hassles
my grandfather used to cruise Britain without a care in the world in the 60s on a 90cc engine strapped onto a pushbike. no hassle or bother from anybody and the roads were empty.
Why? You do realize that you are a danger to others? You may be concerned about others safety and ride responsibly but many don't care about anything but themselves. Based on experience, bicycle riders, as a class, are the worst when it comes to "me, me, me". I enjoy riding a bicycle, but I never forget that I am less visible than other vehicles and I try not to do anything stupid.
It's okay to peacefully protest with violence and destruction but don't let us catch you riding an ebike unless you first beg us for permission and we decide to grant it. Oh, and it'll cost ya.
@@williampennjr.4448 You know, before we 'allowed' the government to take over 'health' care, we never had the country shut down... not with avian flue, polio, or even ebolla. Businesses kept on going, restaurants served food, etc. Little mom-n-pop shops are closed, but big places like Walmart, Home depot, etc are allowed to stay open, even though they held 300+ people (each with a "chance" of infecting someone) but a place that was lucky enough to hold 15 couldn't stay open, with the lower statistics of infection. Sure... seems right to me.... NOT. As my parents used to say 'Sure you can trust the Government... ask ANY Native American'. We are Apache.
It's not ebikes per say most these laws have been on the books since pre 50s power assisted bicycle where viable before the car was.. Just they took gasoline
Is that 750w nominal or peak? It’s so crazy we have power laws for bikes, but there are no power laws for cars. Just stick to speed laws and let us ride any power motor we want.
It's government. It's supposed to be convoluted and overbearing, otherwise they wouldn't feel powerful. I think it's reasonable that any e-bike that goes over 20 MPH (32 km/h) must be insured for liability and the rider must have a driver's license of any kind. Other than that, who gives a fuck about the details. I live in Canada and the e-bike laws are a pain in the ass, and only allow you to have slow, anemic e-bikes. It sucks, and nobody that builds them gives a shit about the laws--except the cops, who will make your life living hell over it.
because classifying an electric MOTORCYCLE as a bicycle is wrong. Cars PAY taxes for roads and bridges, your bicycle does not. no one is stopping you from going faster you just need a license plate AND you need to meet safety crash requirements which your bicycle clearly does not.
@@devilsoffspring5519 No to Driver's license requirements. It's one of the saving graces for people like me, who cannot pass driving tests due to a strange anxiety disorder when it comes to driving cars, but yet I'm adept when it comes to motorcycles (private land driven so far). Sadly you can't just get a motorcycle-only license, so I'm relegated to ebikes. Thank God they exist, small sliver of liberty left.
@@KineticSymphony Where do you live? Several states including Florida do allow for a motorcycle only license but I wasn't aware that some states (or countries) didn't allow such a thing.
The ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act), supercedes any state law, if you are disabled, you don't need to disclose your disability to police. You cannot drive on a freeway, or breakdown lane of a highway, but driving to a store is completely legal (the definition of electrical walking aid is extremely vague)
Thanks! I am a retired TIG welder, and want to make myself a comfortable e assisted bike to ride since I'm too sick to pedal my own MASH themed bike anymore. Thanks for letting me know this so I have an idea of what my motor limits are and I dont go ham on that part.
@@toddkratzer7953 ok but...I'm already not allowed to hit people while just walking...they shouldn't give a fuck about e bikes they keep people from driving which is way more dangerous and bad for everyone. OH NO HES GOING FAST ON A BIKE OOOOOO
literally BIKES! Where did personal freedom go? Bikes aren't like cars where someone could easily seriously hurt or kill someone else. If you do something reckless on a bike you hurt yourself mostly. Anything else is best handled by current laws as if a citizen did any other form of damage to anyone or anything. Only thing these absolutely ridiculous and almost arbitrary laws do is discourage biking, connecting with people, getting exercise, being with nature, do harm to people who cannot afford vehicles or have committed some mistake that prevents them from driving, support pollution, support congestion, support road degradation, entrap students/young people, etc. etc. etc. and for what grand goal?? Seriously?
I ride a peddle assist e-bike and I live in AZ. I ride on national and state forests trails A LOT. Happened to stop and chat with some officials with the State forest District. They were riding regular mtb's. They mentioned to me that it is illegal to ride my e bike on state forest trails. They said they felt the reason e bikes have been banned is because of ignorance of the law makers; that they make uninformed decisions. She suggested we (mtb ers) work to educate. She concluded our chat with the words, "If you ride responsibly and with care, you will be okay. Enjoy the rest of your ride." By the way, I did not know they were with the Forest District till the end of our discussion.
Give me a break!!!! The place to go is to the DMV web site for your state. Here in CA, the DMV.CA.GOV specifically states the max legal wattage is 750W and the max speed is 28 mph. I don't even consider bike trail rules, --- no cop is going to stop anyone on a bike (except perhaps at the beach, like Newport Beach or Manhattan) and verify the class, etc. --- unless they're being reckless, and on a bike trail at crowded Newport Beach or Manhattan, you'd absolutely be reckless to ride over 20 mph (but I swear some rollerbladers do go over 20 mph). On the street, if you ever were stopped, the cop might look for some sticker, but again, only if you're speeding (pretty difficult on an ebike), and first, they won't stop you unless you violate something other than ebike laws -- like running a stop sign, red light, not wearing a helmet (YES, it's the law in CA even on a regular bike - if you're on a public street). Of course you can ride without a helmet around your trailer park all you want, but I'd recommend not crashing.....and best of all - you don't have to buy auto insurance and get a license plate and pay yearly registration fees with an ebike. But you do with a gas powered scooter........even if you're parked, or not going over 20 mph.....
I have read the California law several times and never found any statement of "no throttle" in the text of the law. It states that class I and III ebikes must be pedaled to provide power. So if the controls require pedaling to enable the throttle this meets the law and still allows a throttle on class I and III ebikes.
That's because the laws are not lost those are codes and statues and they can change without notice from second to second so good luck trying to understand those you never will but they are not laws and you do not have to obey them unless you're a Slave they are codes and statues which are not laws
@@ProspectorTripp I am not a last name, first name I am not at all caps name I am not a sir and I'm not a mr. I am a man and I will correct anybody who says otherwise because if you say nothing you accept that title of slave
@@ProspectorTripp it's crazy in 35 and just knowing now what it's like to be a man I couldn't believe my ears actually having Sheriffs know that I am a man and a treat you as a man you never must fear and practice what you believe it's not for everybody but you start getting a ticket for $100 when you get a ticket for $1,000 and then you get a ticket for 1200 the extortion will never stop if you pay the first ticket they know you'll pay the next you truly will be a Slave or you can be free
Thank you for educating me about the different classes of ebikes. I live in Idaho and have a SurRon and a SONDORS XS. I ride the SurRon more. I bought the XS to get a little more exercise. My only complaint about the XS is the throttle is an on/off switch. No gentle ramp up. And denial of any issue from customer service. This is my third SONDORS ebike. Never had any issues before and I’m a stockholder in both the ebike company and his electric car company so I don’t want to trash SONDORS on line but am really disappointed in customer service. Thanks for letting me rant(gently).
And I found under the American disability act, under OPDMDs, it states that any disabled person may use their OPDMD on any government or private land opened to the public. OPDMDs are electric wheel chairs, electric 3 wheelers, Segway, scooters, EBIKES and any future invention to assist the disabled with mobility.. OPDMD = OTHER POWER DRIVEN MOBILITY DEVICE.. I'm 65 years old with a motorcycle endorsement, 50 years experience. I carry proof of my disability from SSA on my phone and a paper copy in my wallet. I also carry a combination of personal and property liability insurance at 500K. In Florida there are two towns with Ebike bans, which make no exception f9r the disabled, therfore violating the Federal American Disability Act. I have sent emails to both towns explaining this and that they need to include in the ebike bans an exclusion for the disabled to avoid potential law suits ..
Any time the government (federal or local) gets involved in anything you can pretty much count on it going to hell pretty quickly. The same thing is taking place with camera drones. If they can figure out a way to generate revenue out of it they'll milk it for all they can get out of it.
I have a class 1 emtb. I ride it anywhere bikes are allowed. If a regular bike is allowed but no ebikes, then I ignore that as I would any other law that makes no sense. My road bikes both go over 30mph, so technically illegal. Another thing to ignore :)
Imagine if car laws were like this. "You aren't allowed to buy a car unless it has less than 50 horsepower and if it goes over 50, it requires a clutch and a sticker on your car that says it has a clutch."
Great video. Sounds like the manufacture and sell of e-bikes is going to get much trickier to avoid lawsuits from the government and consumers when they get injured at higher speed.
In my younger days I used to time trial and my best time over 25 miles was 1 hour, leg power alone, that was up and down hill as well. Now add 750W to that! And no I didn't weigh 170lb= 77 kg, I was 65kg. You could probably break 30 minutes maybe, if the battery has the endurance. Now imagine downhill in a sprint if you have the gearing for it and 80+ mph is conceivable. That may seem ridiculous but I personally took my bike out past 65, it was a very long steep hill. Make it a prone three wheeler with a fairing and you'd have a rocket. It'd be quite conceivable to cruise constantly on the flat at 70+.
I just bought an ebike for the freedom and to save a trip or 2 locally a week in my car.Hopefully dims leave them alone--you would think folks would be happy that this is catching on.I even plan on getting a solar powered power source to charge it up.
"California" and "law" don't belong in the same sentence anymore. Might be a good idea if you relocated your business elsewhere like everyone else. You can't prosper in california anymore.
California is the most prosperous state in the nation and its GNP exceeds that of many countries. If you content living in a trailer park in some god forsaken red state that's your problem.
@@hwirtwirt4500 saying the state that has by far the most people is the most prosperous is like saying the person with the most money is the richest. Well duh. I grew up in Orange County but moved to Florida several years ago and it was the best thing I ever did. People are evacuating CA to my state in droves, my next door neighbor moved here from Huntington Beach 2 years ago and the one across the street just arrived from San Diego last month. We have no state income tax, no violent protests and no homeless camps and both Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos both just set up humungous rocket operations down the street from me. Cali is dying and it deserves to fail.
@@ChatGPT1111 All the facts I listed are true, your personal experience is just anecdotal and doesn't change the facts. If you're happy in Florida that's great. I live there for a couple years working as a civilian contractor on Eglin AFB and enjoyed my time there but wouldn't go back except for a winter get away.
@@hwirtwirt4500 your facts have basic flaws. Go look up the word anecdotal. And GNP is only used at the ‘National’ level and you’re quoting a state. GDP (Domestic) product is most effective and only then based on a per person basis which puts CA behind NY, Alaska and even North Dakota. Eglin, in the panhandle, is the absolute worst place to judge Florida. You don’t have one city in the top 10 up there. I live in a suburb of 30,000 that has zero, nada, nilch trailer parks let alone trailers and the larger city nearby has at least a 100:1 ratio of houses to trailers, so that’s a lot of evidence to the contrary. We actually have almost completed our high speed rail system, are massively gaining transplant population and are widening all our interstates. So if we go by what we see on TV and say trailer parks, then I could use that ‘logic’ and say everyone in a blue state lives in a tent, which come to think of it, they do.
@@ChatGPT1111 Use google and become enlightened, sad that you can't figure that out on your own. California has more productivity and generates more capital than all other states and many countries.
I think the laws are most likely only intended to be enforced if people on ebikes become a problem anyways. I imagine it's mostly so there's a legal leg to stand on if someone is being dangerous or inconsiderate on a super powerful ebike. For example, there's a mixed use walking/biking lane at a college near me, and someone going 40 mph on an ebike would be a major safety concern. You could either have a speed limit and use radar to enforce it, or you could just make it illegal to ride an ebike that can go 40 mph on the trail.
The equivalent of California's "moped" category is "low speed motorcycle" in some states, doesn't require pedaling. Here in Wyoming, you can get a restricted motorcycle endorsement, I think, that is limited to this category (and is generally easier to qualify for).
I wish this was the case the stupid amendment that was placed now states the authorized officer of that land so the BLM regional office manager is the one that either allows them or not garbage. Bend OR is where this is happening now just an FYI. Sucks bad even class 1 can’t go on any trails.
I want to modify a 4-wheeled surrey bike to have 2 rear hub motors. Will I need to register it as a motor vehicle with a VIN number? What wattage can I use if it has 4 wheels?
Excellent explanation on the ebike laws, Thanks! Oklahoma goes to 1000W and 30MPH, Otherwise, pretty much the same except, All ebike riders must have a drivers license! So, no-one under 16 can legally ride any ebike. Here in Oklahoma it's a $500 fine to violate any of the very stringent e-bike laws. I'm going to look into e-moped laws tomorrow. 1st edit 10/1/22, Section 11-805.2 - Operation of Electric-Assisted Bicycles Notwithstanding any other provision of law, operators of electric-assisted bicycles, as defined in Section 1-104 of this title, shall: 1. Possess a Class A, B, C or D license, but shall be exempt from a motorcycle endorsement; 2. Not be subject to motor vehicle liability insurance requirements only as they pertain to the operation of electric-assisted bicycles; 3. Be authorized to operate an electric-assisted bicycle wherever bicycles are authorized to be operated; 4. Be prohibited from operating an electric-assisted bicycle wherever bicycles are prohibited from operating; and 5. Wear a properly fitted and fastened bicycle helmet which meets the standards of the American National Standards Institute or the Snell Memorial Foundation Standards for protective headgear for use in bicycling, provided such operator is eighteen (18) years of age or less. (no helmets for adults) Section 1-104 - Bicycle, Electric-Assisted Bicycle, and Motorized Bicycle A. A bicycle is a device upon which any person or persons may ride, propelled solely by human power.... B. An electric-assisted bicycle is any bicycle with: 1. Two or three wheels; and 2. Fully operative pedals for human propulsion and equipped with an electric motor: a. with a power output not to exceed one thousand (1,000) watts, b. incapable of propelling the device at a speed of more than thirty (30) miles per hour on level ground, and c. incapable of further increasing the speed of the device when human power alone is used to propel the device at a speed of thirty (30) miles per hour or more. An electric-assisted bicycle shall meet the requirements of the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards as set forth in federal regulations and shall operate in such a manner that the electric motor disengages or ceases to function when the brakes are applied.
The reason the law on stickers requires the wattage is for multi-drive bikes. I have a Rad Runner first generation, it's a class 2. If I put a front wheel drive conversation kit on it and make it a 2 wheel drive, it would be legally a motorcycle at over 1000W. If I had a 250W bike and put a 250W second drive it could still be a class 1. It's so an officer on scene can do the math if he has to.
Interestingly enough, where I live in Canada, my ebike I bought 2 years ago would be California compliant. I made sure it was within the laws of the province I live in. It has to be 500w or less and can't have a top speed over 30 kmph (which is slightly under 20mph.) It also has to have working pedals; if it's not, then it's probably going to require a license. I don't think it's a problem, but mine can go a little bit faster: 32kmph or 20mph.
I'm in Canada my e-bike seem to go over 32km/h if set to the highest setting with pedelling I can reach 35 to 40 km depending on the surface on the road noticeable most when your on a fully charge battery but once the battery get low it go between 28 to 32
I have a class 3 Cheeta like the one behind you. The laws in my region (BC Canada) allows me to ride on multiuser trails and the public roads. Max road speed under the bikes own power is 32kph (20mph). The e-bike regulation reminds the reader they must adhere to the regular rules of the road like any other bike. Thanks for the informative video.
I lived in China for 3 years, owned a couple different model eScooters (no pedals, much faster than eBike) I ALMOST bought one here in the states (you can buy them online) when I got back but was paranoid about laws... so I bought a Radwagon 4 instead. It arrived last night, will be assembled today.
Do you have any information on mobility scooters for people or person who use Walmart type scooter or the Lark electric scooters? Most scooters can go as fast as 7 to 11 MPH and have no turn signals or headlamp. Some models do have a night time headlamp. Mine has a 6 sided slow vehicle Orange device on my Segway and trike.
If I can modify my bike by installing a motor, batteries, and a throttle, it should be no one else's business unless I'm riding it on sidewalks or pedestrian pathways.
I guess the point is if someone does that with a monster motor capable of 70mph, then certain laws should apply. Here in North Carolina, they made mopeds and scooters (49cc and below) register and get a license plate and insurance. The theory being that if you use the roads, you should help pay for the roads upkeep.
Curious if there are any class and speed regulations on powered wheelchairs and mobility devices. I've got an old friction drive electric wheelchair that could probably use a dual 750 drive upgrade. Pedals could probably be added up front, do they need to actually connect to anything as long as your pedaling?
I never register my private property whether it is my shoes or my automobile. The only reason people do that shit is under duress and no one had cameras to document the law enforcement's crimes of involuntary servitude! Most people are so stupid and scared that they let other people tell them what to do with their own property like how dark or not their tint is! Tint being dark is not unlawful in fact it is repugnant legality and void of law!
@@Youhaverights6 Most people rather pay the $200 then get harassed. simple two sentences I am a man. who claims I Wrong? how did my license plate not being on the car injure you or cause harm to you??? NO victim NO CASE unless you volunteer. Jail is voluntary just like taxes however if you don't pay your taxes you will go to jail
One quibble. The California law does not ban throttles. They just can't provide assist power on Class 1 & 3 unless you're peddling. They can be used to determine the amount of assist. E-Bikes, like bicycles are supposed to obey the following rules of the road. Ride only on the far right side of the road not more than 2 wide. Can use left turn lanes to turn left. Must signal all turns and lane changes. You can use hand signals. Must obey all traffic signals and stop signs. Cannot cross a street in a cross walk unless walking your bike. Must obey one way signs unless walking your bike. I have only seen these enforced very rarely but they can be.
Damn! Do I need to hire a lawyer before I ride my bike? There are so many other problems in this country, yet we have to regulate electric bikes. I'm not mad at you, I'm just mad that our country has come to this. Just found your class 4 stickers...gonna get some!
Here in Alabama I ride my ebike everywhere. Never been stopped by a cop. Have seen a lot of bikes with gas motors riding in cites. I don't thank the cops here give a crap.
I think the laws are most likely only intended to be enforced if people on ebikes become a problem. I imagine it's mostly so there's a legal leg to stand on if someone is being dangerous or inconsiderate on a super powerful ebike. For example, there's a mixed use walking/biking lane at a college near me, and someone going 40 mph on an ebike would be a major safety concern. You could either have a speed limit and use radar to enforce it, or you could just make it illegal to ride an ebike that can go 40 mph on the trail.
I live near Los Angeles. The reality is, California ebike laws are so complicated and convoluted that most people including the police do not know the difference between the classes. To most people an ebike is an ebike. The end result is that class 3 and modified class 2 bikes are being used on bike paths more and more often as electric motorcycles. Rad and Juiced now sell ebikes that resemble those old school gas minibikes. Except they have pedals which technically make them ebikes. But the seat position and frame geometry make efficient pedaling pretty impractical. The promo videos for these machines do not show much pedaling at all.
I believe mounting a launcher is not permissible but perhaps try emptying the contents of the container over your body, ignite with an approved source of flame and run towards your target. Please let us know how this works out.
🤔14:16 look closer they should have a vin#. Both of my bikes do. I have two bikes one is your Standard mountain bike (has a vin#) and the second one is a gas powered bike (it has a vin#). It should be on the frame both of mine are under the pedals.
I’m putting a 750watt motor on my Belize three wheel in the back where the rack goes also I have a throttle so what do I do I’m almost done with it except for the final wire
Yeah they ain't going to give me any shit in Philadelphia we got people riding around in groups of hundreds riding quads and dirt bikes owning the streets...
@@Windowlesswhitevan my brother, Nephew and I ride motorized bike at nearly 40mph. We are completely ignored by the police, because we wear our helmets. That really seems to be the thing they look out for.
I live out in Nebraska(aka farm country) and nobody cares(as long as you are not under the influence of substances), because there are no Ebikes out here in the Boonies as of yet(ordering mine soon)...
I notice 10 speeds pass me all the time on my class 2 Ebike. When my battery dies it’s like the drive wheel is not free wheeling. Rosarita to Ensenada Mexico after the two hills, one nick named the wall; 40+ mph were obtained on the slight downhill. I guess if you crash on a 10 speed. It won’t be as bad as an Ebike crash.
I go to Michigan once in awhile were Class1 is only allowed on bike paths. I have a DIY which I can program my throttle not to work and adjust my mph to 20 with only PAS, I wonder if it is legal HWEN I can make tose adjustments before I ride on a bike path? I did make a sticker classifying my DIY 750w as a Class 1 - in case I go to Michigan and ride.
All things considered, I think we can rest assured that wearing a helmet if you are going over 28 MPH (pedaling or not) will afford safety from the law and perhaps, to your head.
Fortunately I live in New Hampshire, where class two and three ebike laws are light years ahead of other states. They’re basically considered regular bicycles on multi use paths and roads, and require no registration or fees. Helmets are not required over the age of 16, however I choose to wear one myself. Where in neighboring Massachusetts, their ebike laws are draconian to say the least. Class two ebikes are on the same level as mopeds, requiring a drivers license, annual registration fees, and helmet for all ages. They are also prohibited from multi use paths, trails, and state parks. For a state that brags how progressive they are, green energy transportation is made expensive, difficult, and over regulated. Living on the border of the two states I have no desire to cross into Massachusetts anytime soon. I’m a bit disappointed the federal government hasn’t eased restrictions on national parks and forests, and developed nationwide reasonable ebike laws which would more encourage clean daily commutes back and forth to work, school, or everyday errands.
I don't understand why the complexity. Just put up a speed limit and keep your vehicle under that speed. Can you imagine if we used the same e-bike logic for cars? My Mustang can exceed 15mph, but I would not be able to drive it on my neighborhood street since the speed limit is 15mph. Oh, but let's have a law that provides an exception like it is okay to drive your 6 cylinder car, but not 8.
I'm looking into this a bit late. Want an ebike for taking from road into hard to reach lakes, streams, and ponds. The comment about Alaska has me writing this. I went to Fairbanks last year, there was a dirt bike and side-by-side in the McDonald's parking lot, and an ATV (quad bike) in the Safeway parking lot next to the McDonald's. I was staying in a hotel and the Safeway was where I was shopping. The cashier rides the ATV to work as his daily. I also saw a 450-500cc dirt bike flying down the sidewalk next to the highway, it was going faster than me and I was going 70mph. I don't think Alaska has too many vehicle laws.
I used to ride my Specialized hard rock sport at up to and over 30 mph with just peddling and up to 50 mph down gravel road hills, so the laws seem a little ridiculous for a electric bike that won't even do 30 mph. It'd be like taxing Lance Armstrong for being in really good shape.
Yes, nice presentation. It is complex to the point of insensibility (or nonsensibility?) In any case, the logic and intent of the regulations is difficult to follow.
I’ve got a hillclimber front wheel with a push button throttle on a kick bike. No pedals. Sweet stand up ride,up to 15 mph . I do assist kick it up hills. A dream to ride for my 145 pounds. I even have a bike trailer to haul some stuff. The motors rated up to 300 pounds,and the trailers rated for a hundred. It’s hard to see where it fits into the pedal ,pedal free,one two three classes . That I don’t see being enforced,because nobody know how a child protective seats suppose to go yet. Each bike comes with the assurance,you can ride it. On another thought,that’s a sweet bike you have. Is it under three grand? Mine was 750 and two years later bought another one and the trailer for 850. Now I got a beautiful outing for two,solar charged for up to forty miles. Slicing air with sunshine
Great info! I appreciate it because I will be riding my new Cheetah all around the country. By the way, the Cheetah is FANTASTIC! It is the most comfortable bicycle I've ever had and it grabs attention like crazy! Such a great addition to your lineup! Thanks Kyle!
My Totem Victor 2.0 (class 2) will accelerate up to 22 mph but after a few seconds it drops to ~ 19.7, is that because of a speed limiter? I live in the US where class 2s are limited to 20mph
If you have an electric bike that goes over 35 mph,. You will be charged and you will get either life in prison or the death sentence, for riding your bike without the proper permit..
Interesting and quite different from rules in Denmark. We have two classes of e-bikes: 1. Regular E-bike. 250W motor max. Assist mode ONLY. Topspeed 25kph (15.6mph) 2. Speed-pedelec 250w motor max. Assist mode only. Topspeed 45kph (28mph) Must have front and rear lights on all times. Must wear helmet. Must have insurance. (if you hit a pedestrian, regular bike or regular e-bike, responsibility will automatically fall on you) Both types of bikes can of course drive faster, just not with motor assist. However I have yet to see any e-bike be pulled over by the police to check for anything, which is kinda sad. There are plenty of people riding around on obviously tuned e-bikes (+30mph) on bike paths in a city with tens of thousands of bike riders and it's just not safe. There was recently a case about a e-bike doing 70kph (+43mph) in a city, which is insane. Some people forget they only have bicycle brakes on their bike.
They should be allowed on the road, not on bike trails. Why,, because a heavy E -bike is gonna do more damage to a kid riding his regular peddle bike on a tight bike trail. Mark my words , accidents will go up on bike trails and theres gonna be serious injuries and deaths also.. I can see an older person driving it responsibly to go up hills and commute, but young kids gonna abuse the speeed. I already seen a kid go off course on one going fast, nearly hit a tree and people sitting on the bench off to the side.. Good luck
Boy, do I have mixed feelings about this video. The clarification is great. Providing a tool for bureaucrats to refer to when planning new restrictions , taxes, regulations is not, so, good. This could be all a 'busybody political advisor' needs to feed to a 'less than well meaning politician' to develop a new platform to "exploit". There is just enough information in your seemingly accurate, well done, video to create a 'marketable controversy' for media or political gain. I don't see this being a favor to your industry especially in California. That's just my observation after more than 50 years in this world. (I am a class 3 ebike owner not on the west coast) For all you potential naysayers I shouldn't need to point out what has happened to the Model Aircraft hobby and Drones in the last few years thanks to the exact same reasons.
so what if you have front and rear 750 or 1000W motors 2 independent systems with 2 throttles which class is it? is the wattage added for collective output or looked independently because all we are doing is doubling the torque not the speed. controllers can be programmed to control the speed.
Thank you for helping me to decide that I will buy a scooter long before I ever will an ebike , when I was growing up we all had bike with lawn mower engines and back then police usually would like that a kid could build something on our own ingenuity and back then we respected the police not resist them .
The pedal bikes are often going as fast as ebikes so what's the problem? If ebikes go faster than 28 they go out on the roads and then they should have a few more mph available to keep up with the flow of traffic for safety readons.
Do you know? I'm disabled (unable to pedal) I put a 735 watt wheelchair motor/gearbox on a fat tire bike. It drives 27 mph. Where do I fit in? Does ADA help?
Great video! Thanks to you I now know that Ohio slightly edges out California in being e-bike friendly, with no throttle verbiage in the law about e-bikes. Woo hoo.
i just bought 1 from Walmart with 4yr accident warranty but it came ina box but it says 85% together but it dont look like i need to just do 15% so any suggestions?? i live in cali
I've been harassed two times of one of my gas 4 stoke motorized bikes. No citations yet. But one time was a little rough, on the side of the road for a half hour two officers, Frisk me twice search my bag, ran my driver's license. And we played 10,000 questions. Why this why that blah blah blah, Till I started looking at them like there are a bunch of crackheads. Then they me go, and told me not to come back to their town. I go back once in awhile.
@@DragnesiNH ever since that happened I ride mostly in Maine now. I live on the border. Maine is so chill about that kind of stuff police officers don't even give me a second look. New Hampshire they love to harass people on bicycles even once without Motors.
@@marcs4091 that's because they are looking for cash to confiscate (rob). The cops have a set amount they have to bring in and they all fish certain roads for drivers with cash.
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Which Class of Ebike Do You Have?
I have a monday motorbike. I ride it on the lakefront and street.
A multi-kilowatt hot rod with ghost pedaling capability that so far hasn't bothered the police in my area. 👍
@@Zen-mp9fd Sounds fun
@@whoaitstiger Ohh sneaky
I don't have class stickers on my bikes.
This year Florida passed legislation making E-Bikes the same thing as a regular bicycle. No permit or special license required. Legal to go on any road, trail, or path designated for regular bikes, including non-motorized vehicle routes.
Thanks for that, because I also live in Florida and was curious about that.
THanks for the info! I live in FL and am considering an ebike.
Any links to this Florida law?
Until somebody gets killed by one
@@kennethcheesbrough6855 You're a joy to be around, no doubt.
In reality law enforcement will probably never bother you,unless you are grossly violating the laws or you get in a serious accident,so ride safe and keep the rubber side down. Great video,very informative.
I have a 40mph throttle only ebike and the only cops that bothered me did so to compliment me.
@@archive8080 same most of the time they ask me where I got it 😂
We've seen tickets for nothing for scooters in Vancouver. So the VPD are lame
As I always say, only break one law at a time!
I have seen basically drunk drivers on the road, and the police just drive right next to them doing nothing
My local grocery stores are slightly down hill from me. When I'm loaded with groceries, my nearly 70 yr old behind has a little difficulty getting up the inclines. Adding pedal assist means I now maintain a regular speed. I'm better balanced, safer. I only turn it on when going up hill, so my battery lasts a very long time.
So glad your E-bike experience is working out for you :D
The literal ideal scenario for an E-Bike here, folks
Law enforcement won't bother you if you obey laws and rules of the road and wear a helmet in other words don't be a dick ! That just pisses motorists off and pressure politicians for more laws, be safe and responsible and nobody will care .😁
I’m 77 and in bad shape and I ride an over powered bike because I often haul near my weight in groceries or supplies up a two mile hill.
I went to a council meeting dealing with the new (at the time) federal bicycle law and how it will relate to bicycle and walking trails in the area. None of the council members had ever been on those trails. They wanted to ban e-bikes from use on those trails. Because none of them had ever been on those trails they never experienced Roadies on expensive road bikes riding in groups riding a lot faster than 20 mph. I explained it was doubtful they would ride at maximum speed as that depletes the battery faster than just cruising at typical manual bicycle speed's. I then let them see a video of a group of Roadies riding past at high speed on a popular section of the trail everyone would recognize. The result was the posting of 15 mph speed limits on the trails and no longer worrying about e-bikes on the trails.
We don’t fairly vote or bargain with the Gestapo.
They allow cars on the highway that can do 200 miles an hour and don’t out law them but want to outlaw e-bikes because they go faster than a pedal bike. You don’t have to use all that speed all the time, but it is nice when you need it.
They do whatever they want and then they do it in the name of safety and imaginary dangers so they can pass things without the vote of the people.
@@allgoo1990 I really don't see your point here. You may be right about family outings, but you are totally not right about anything else. He specifically stated that he showed the council a group of riders that were going past pedestrians at most dangerous speeds. More than likely even faster than an ebike could. He also stated that the council concluded that posting a speed limit of 15 Mph would help this dangerous situation. Of course, being Americans, they won't give a shit and ignore that posted limit anyway. What would be really funny to see is, the government putting up a netting system that would pop up in front of anything going faster than 15 Mph. I would even pay to see something like that. LMAO
"There are powered bicycles passing them at 30 mph (ALL THE TIME, I'd say more than half are e-bikes, many of them without pedaling, E-mopeds)).
Do you think that's safe?"
I'd say safer than 40+ Mph done by bicycle riders. It doesn't matter if you are Pedalling, motoring, coasting, or whatever. It doesn't change the fact that either way it will really injure someone the same way. You need to stop badgering a person for a legitimate comment. Probably the most legitimate and relative comment on here.
Also, have you ever seen a policeman on a bicycle trail at all? If your answer is "yes", you are lying.
@@allgoo1990 Are you kidding me right now? You are calling me dumb? I see no relevance on being dumb. It's obvious that you didn't read my comment thoroughly. I said nothing dumb? WTF does a golf cart on the freeway go to do with anything I said.
"Have you ever seen an E-bike going at 30 mph passing right next to 5 yr old going 10mph?
Who will be responsible if he or she hit the kid and kill the kid?
If you still don't see the point you are hopelessly dumb.". This also has no relevance at all in what I said.
"There's a place for E-bike, not on the bicycle trail.
You still don't get it?". Again, WTF does this have to do with what I said?
"True or false?
Paul Reeder is dumb." And I guess this makes you smart? All of your statements about me being dumb, just shows how dumb you are. Sorry.
Might I suggest you go back and re-read what I said. Maybe this time your dumbass can interpret it the right way. I am so sorry dude, but you make no sense whatsoever.
When I was 13 in the ‘60s my buddies +I rode 50cc mopeds and Briggs+Stratten 2.5hp motors on diy tube frames. No license, No traffic. It was 🤩 fun, no hassles
my grandfather used to cruise Britain without a care in the world in the 60s on a 90cc engine strapped onto a pushbike. no hassle or bother from anybody and the roads were empty.
Mice
Great info. I have a Class 3 and am restricted from most bike paths. In my opinion, they should set speed limits instead restricting class 3.
And the Karen police can enforce the limit?
@@macbook802 LOL
Brandon will come after you if he thinks he can get money from your fines.
Why? You do realize that you are a danger to others? You may be concerned about others safety and ride responsibly but many don't care about anything but themselves. Based on experience, bicycle riders, as a class, are the worst when it comes to "me, me, me". I enjoy riding a bicycle, but I never forget that I am less visible than other vehicles and I try not to do anything stupid.
Just do it this is the land of the free home of the brave go file a complaint and get it changed , just peddle it
Does the government have anything else more important to do rather than bothering eBike owners and manufacturers? My gosh!
It's okay to peacefully protest with violence and destruction but don't let us catch you riding an ebike unless you first beg us for permission and we decide to grant it.
Oh, and it'll cost ya.
Yeah. It's not like there's a pandemic, immigration problem and astronomical healthcare costs going on.
@@williampennjr.4448 You know, before we 'allowed' the government to take over 'health' care, we never had the country shut down... not with avian flue, polio, or even ebolla. Businesses kept on going, restaurants served food, etc. Little mom-n-pop shops are closed, but big places like Walmart, Home depot, etc are allowed to stay open, even though they held 300+ people (each with a "chance" of infecting someone) but a place that was lucky enough to hold 15 couldn't stay open, with the lower statistics of infection. Sure... seems right to me.... NOT. As my parents used to say 'Sure you can trust the Government... ask ANY Native American'. We are Apache.
Oh they do they just not doing what they should be
It's not ebikes per say most these laws have been on the books since pre 50s power assisted bicycle where viable before the car was..
Just they took gasoline
Is that 750w nominal or peak?
It’s so crazy we have power laws for bikes, but there are no power laws for cars. Just stick to speed laws and let us ride any power motor we want.
AMEN!!!!
It's government. It's supposed to be convoluted and overbearing, otherwise they wouldn't feel powerful.
I think it's reasonable that any e-bike that goes over 20 MPH (32 km/h) must be insured for liability and the rider must have a driver's license of any kind. Other than that, who gives a fuck about the details.
I live in Canada and the e-bike laws are a pain in the ass, and only allow you to have slow, anemic e-bikes. It sucks, and nobody that builds them gives a shit about the laws--except the cops, who will make your life living hell over it.
because classifying an electric MOTORCYCLE as a bicycle is wrong. Cars PAY taxes for roads and bridges, your bicycle does not.
no one is stopping you from going faster you just need a license plate AND you need to meet safety crash requirements which your bicycle clearly does not.
@@devilsoffspring5519 No to Driver's license requirements. It's one of the saving graces for people like me, who cannot pass driving tests due to a strange anxiety disorder when it comes to driving cars, but yet I'm adept when it comes to motorcycles (private land driven so far). Sadly you can't just get a motorcycle-only license, so I'm relegated to ebikes. Thank God they exist, small sliver of liberty left.
@@KineticSymphony Where do you live? Several states including Florida do allow for a motorcycle only license but I wasn't aware that some states (or countries) didn't allow such a thing.
The ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act), supercedes any state law, if you are disabled, you don't need to disclose your disability to police. You cannot drive on a freeway, or breakdown lane of a highway, but driving to a store is completely legal (the definition of electrical walking aid is extremely vague)
Who in the hell will enforce any of these laws, with people being beaten in the streets?
California apparently lmao XD
Yep pretty much so :(
Cantaffordia will
Karen will be there to enforce!
Tickets make them money!
Great break down of each class! Thanks for taking the time to make this video and educate us on the lesser known details of the classes.
Thanks!
Thanks! I am a retired TIG welder, and want to make myself a comfortable e assisted bike to ride since I'm too sick to pedal my own MASH themed bike anymore. Thanks for letting me know this so I have an idea of what my motor limits are and I dont go ham on that part.
Nice decision! Just remember to get yourself an nta helmet like xnito since cpsc helmets don't protect you on ebikes
Never knew their was such a thing. I swear a bunch of people jump to do something and here comes big brother with rules regulations.
Yaaaah pretty much sadly
There
E-bike riders need to respect other people who are walking or have a regular bike and the rules and laws pertain to that.
@@toddkratzer7953 ok but...I'm already not allowed to hit people while just walking...they shouldn't give a fuck about e bikes they keep people from driving which is way more dangerous and bad for everyone. OH NO HES GOING FAST ON A BIKE OOOOOO
literally BIKES!
Where did personal freedom go? Bikes aren't like cars where someone could easily seriously hurt or kill someone else.
If you do something reckless on a bike you hurt yourself mostly. Anything else is best handled by current laws as if a citizen did any other form of damage to anyone or anything.
Only thing these absolutely ridiculous and almost arbitrary laws do is discourage biking, connecting with people, getting exercise, being with nature, do harm to people who cannot afford vehicles or have committed some mistake that prevents them from driving, support pollution, support congestion, support road degradation, entrap students/young people, etc. etc. etc.
and for what grand goal?? Seriously?
I ride a peddle assist e-bike and I live in AZ. I ride on national and state forests trails A LOT. Happened to stop and chat with some officials with the State forest District. They were riding regular mtb's. They mentioned to me that it is illegal to ride my e bike on state forest trails. They said they felt the reason e bikes have been banned is because of ignorance of the law makers; that they make uninformed decisions. She suggested we (mtb ers) work to educate. She concluded our chat with the words, "If you ride responsibly and with care, you will be okay. Enjoy the rest of your ride." By the way, I did not know they were with the Forest District till the end of our discussion.
Give me a break!!!! The place to go is to the DMV web site for your state. Here in CA, the DMV.CA.GOV specifically states the max legal wattage is 750W and the max speed is 28 mph. I don't even consider bike trail rules, --- no cop is going to stop anyone on a bike (except perhaps at the beach, like Newport Beach or Manhattan) and verify the class, etc. --- unless they're being reckless, and on a bike trail at crowded Newport Beach or Manhattan, you'd absolutely be reckless to ride over 20 mph (but I swear some rollerbladers do go over 20 mph). On the street, if you ever were stopped, the cop might look for some sticker, but again, only if you're speeding (pretty difficult on an ebike), and first, they won't stop you unless you violate something other than ebike laws -- like running a stop sign, red light, not wearing a helmet (YES, it's the law in CA even on a regular bike - if you're on a public street). Of course you can ride without a helmet around your trailer park all you want, but I'd recommend not crashing.....and best of all - you don't have to buy auto insurance and get a license plate and pay yearly registration fees with an ebike. But you do with a gas powered scooter........even if you're parked, or not going over 20 mph.....
I have read the California law several times and never found any statement of "no throttle" in the text of the law. It states that class I and III ebikes must be pedaled to provide power. So if the controls require pedaling to enable the throttle this meets the law and still allows a throttle on class I and III ebikes.
Don’t worry about insane e-anything laws.. cops have important work to do.
Riding a bike is pretty low on their law enforcement agenda
That's because the laws are not lost those are codes and statues and they can change without notice from second to second so good luck trying to understand those you never will but they are not laws and you do not have to obey them unless you're a Slave they are codes and statues which are not laws
PooChY DoG amen
@@ProspectorTripp I am not a last name, first name I am not at all caps name I am not a sir and I'm not a mr. I am a man and I will correct anybody who says otherwise because if you say nothing you accept that title of slave
@@ProspectorTripp it's crazy in 35 and just knowing now what it's like to be a man I couldn't believe my ears actually having Sheriffs know that I am a man and a treat you as a man you never must fear and practice what you believe it's not for everybody but you start getting a ticket for $100 when you get a ticket for $1,000 and then you get a ticket for 1200 the extortion will never stop if you pay the first ticket they know you'll pay the next you truly will be a Slave or you can be free
Can I get a licence plate and insurance for a fast ebike like a Surron?
I'm working on a video about that. Usually no, but.... there may be a solution to that. 😉
Thank you for educating me about the different classes of ebikes. I live in Idaho and have a SurRon and a SONDORS XS. I ride the SurRon more. I bought the XS to get a little more exercise. My only complaint about the XS is the throttle is an on/off switch. No gentle ramp up. And denial of any issue from customer service. This is my third SONDORS ebike. Never had any issues before and I’m a stockholder in both the ebike company and his electric car company so I don’t want to trash SONDORS on line but am really disappointed in customer service.
Thanks for letting me rant(gently).
And I found under the American disability act, under OPDMDs, it states that any disabled person may use their OPDMD on any government or private land opened to the public. OPDMDs are electric wheel chairs, electric 3 wheelers, Segway, scooters,
EBIKES and any future invention to assist the disabled with mobility..
OPDMD = OTHER POWER DRIVEN MOBILITY DEVICE..
I'm 65 years old with a motorcycle endorsement, 50 years experience. I carry proof of my disability from SSA on my phone and a paper copy in my wallet. I also carry a combination of personal and property liability insurance at 500K.
In Florida there are two towns with Ebike bans, which make no exception f9r the disabled, therfore violating the Federal American Disability Act.
I have sent emails to both towns explaining this and that they need to include in the ebike bans an exclusion for the disabled to avoid potential law suits ..
I’m old enough to remember when America was a free country.
Yup 2010 was the good old days for sure/
Are you on of those idiots that think lawlessness equals freedom?
supershroom164 dumb as dirt they are my friend.. class 123? Morons!
I’m building a Class 8500!
Freedom baby!
✌️PT
You were never free my friend. Your perception of reality years ago was more limited!
@@supershroom164 yes
Any time the government (federal or local) gets involved in anything you can pretty much count on it going to hell pretty quickly. The same thing is taking place with camera drones. If they can figure out a way to generate revenue out of it they'll milk it for all they can get out of it.
The federal and state governments have been regulating motor vehicles for over a century, brush up on your history.
yes, the "drone" regulations are even worse than ebikes
Once they sniff money exchanging hands without their getting a piece of it, the government heisters rack their brains figuring how to participate.
@@hwirtwirt4500 ??? ok....
@@hwirtwirt4500 so they've been turning the auto industry to shit for over a decade. What you said literally doesn't prove anything.
I have a class 1 emtb. I ride it anywhere bikes are allowed. If a regular bike is allowed but no ebikes, then I ignore that as I would any other law that makes no sense. My road bikes both go over 30mph, so technically illegal. Another thing to ignore :)
Imagine if car laws were like this.
"You aren't allowed to buy a car unless it has less than 50 horsepower and if it goes over 50, it requires a clutch and a sticker on your car that says it has a clutch."
28 mph is almost exactly 45 km/h, the speed limit on European speed pedelecs. I doubt that that is a coincidence.
Pedelecs? Wasn't that a Superman villain 🤔
Leave it to a bureaucrat to come up with a convoluted law written in such a way.
Great video. Sounds like the manufacture and sell of e-bikes is going to get much trickier to avoid lawsuits from the government and consumers when they get injured at higher speed.
In my younger days I used to time trial and my best time over 25 miles was 1 hour, leg power alone, that was up and down hill as well. Now add 750W to that! And no I didn't weigh 170lb= 77 kg, I was 65kg. You could probably break 30 minutes maybe, if the battery has the endurance. Now imagine downhill in a sprint if you have the gearing for it and 80+ mph is conceivable. That may seem ridiculous but I personally took my bike out past 65, it was a very long steep hill. Make it a prone three wheeler with a fairing and you'd have a rocket. It'd be quite conceivable to cruise constantly on the flat at 70+.
I just bought an ebike for the freedom and to save a trip or 2 locally a week in my car.Hopefully dims leave them alone--you would think folks would be happy that this is catching on.I even plan on getting a solar powered power source to charge it up.
They will just find ways to make it illegal, ticket you, c9nfiscate it and put you in jail. That's what they do with evrrything..
@@thothheartmaat2833 Its liberals doing it and i keep away from them or their cities.
"California" and "law" don't belong in the same sentence anymore. Might be a good idea if you relocated your business elsewhere like everyone else. You can't prosper in california anymore.
California is the most prosperous state in the nation and its GNP exceeds that of many countries. If you content living in a trailer park in some god forsaken red state that's your problem.
@@hwirtwirt4500 saying the state that has by far the most people is the most prosperous is like saying the person with the most money is the richest. Well duh. I grew up in Orange County but moved to Florida several years ago and it was the best thing I ever did. People are evacuating CA to my state in droves, my next door neighbor moved here from Huntington Beach 2 years ago and the one across the street just arrived from San Diego last month. We have no state income tax, no violent protests and no homeless camps and both Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos both just set up humungous rocket operations down the street from me. Cali is dying and it deserves to fail.
@@ChatGPT1111 All the facts I listed are true, your personal experience is just anecdotal and doesn't change the facts. If you're happy in Florida that's great. I live there for a couple years working as a civilian contractor on Eglin AFB and enjoyed my time there but wouldn't go back except for a winter get away.
@@hwirtwirt4500 your facts have basic flaws. Go look up the word anecdotal. And GNP is only used at the ‘National’ level and you’re quoting a state. GDP (Domestic) product is most effective and only then based on a per person basis which puts CA behind NY, Alaska and even North Dakota. Eglin, in the panhandle, is the absolute worst place to judge Florida. You don’t have one city in the top 10 up there. I live in a suburb of 30,000 that has zero, nada, nilch trailer parks let alone trailers and the larger city nearby has at least a 100:1 ratio of houses to trailers, so that’s a lot of evidence to the contrary. We actually have almost completed our high speed rail system, are massively gaining transplant population and are widening all our interstates. So if we go by what we see on TV and say trailer parks, then I could use that ‘logic’ and say everyone in a blue state lives in a tent, which come to think of it, they do.
@@ChatGPT1111 Use google and become enlightened, sad that you can't figure that out on your own. California has more productivity and generates more capital than all other states and many countries.
I like this guy, but a really don't give a f--- about the law. It goes fast and looks like a bike, and Florida cops don't give a s--t.
They really don't care in Maine, you see four wheelers, going right down the middle of 202 doing the speed limit in a 50 mile an hour Zone.
Amen..
Hallelujah brudda
I live in Florida should get mine this week been waiting a month
You do understand that you have the option to watch another video if you don't care or like this guy, right?
I think the laws are most likely only intended to be enforced if people on ebikes become a problem anyways. I imagine it's mostly so there's a legal leg to stand on if someone is being dangerous or inconsiderate on a super powerful ebike. For example, there's a mixed use walking/biking lane at a college near me, and someone going 40 mph on an ebike would be a major safety concern. You could either have a speed limit and use radar to enforce it, or you could just make it illegal to ride an ebike that can go 40 mph on the trail.
The Ariel rider "Kepler" (which I just ordered, but won't be available
The equivalent of California's "moped" category is "low speed motorcycle" in some states, doesn't require pedaling. Here in Wyoming, you can get a restricted motorcycle endorsement, I think, that is limited to this category (and is generally easier to qualify for).
That is why ,rather than modifying my Ebike,I've chosen to carry in my wallet, several different stickers, at any given time ...😎
My rule of thumb...just don't get caught.
Starting on 12/02/2020, we can ride e-bike in trails in Federal parks where regular bicycles are already allowed -- including class-1/2/3.
I wish this was the case the stupid amendment that was placed now states the authorized officer of that land so the BLM regional office manager is the one that either allows them or not garbage. Bend OR is where this is happening now just an FYI. Sucks bad even class 1 can’t go on any trails.
I have a Class 2. This video was extremely helpful. Thank you!
I want to modify a 4-wheeled surrey bike to have 2 rear hub motors. Will I need to register it as a motor vehicle with a VIN number? What wattage can I use if it has 4 wheels?
Excellent explanation on the ebike laws, Thanks! Oklahoma goes to 1000W and 30MPH, Otherwise, pretty much the same except, All ebike riders must have a drivers license! So, no-one under 16 can legally ride any ebike.
Here in Oklahoma it's a $500 fine to violate any of the very stringent e-bike laws. I'm going to look into e-moped laws tomorrow. 1st edit 10/1/22, Section 11-805.2 - Operation of Electric-Assisted Bicycles
Notwithstanding any other provision of law, operators of electric-assisted bicycles, as defined in Section 1-104 of this title, shall:
1. Possess a Class A, B, C or D license, but shall be exempt from a motorcycle endorsement;
2. Not be subject to motor vehicle liability insurance requirements only as they pertain to the operation of electric-assisted bicycles;
3. Be authorized to operate an electric-assisted bicycle wherever bicycles are authorized to be operated;
4. Be prohibited from operating an electric-assisted bicycle wherever bicycles are prohibited from operating; and
5. Wear a properly fitted and fastened bicycle helmet which meets the standards of the American National Standards Institute or the Snell Memorial Foundation Standards for protective headgear for use in bicycling, provided such operator is eighteen (18) years of age or less. (no helmets for adults)
Section 1-104 - Bicycle, Electric-Assisted Bicycle, and Motorized Bicycle
A. A bicycle is a device upon which any person or persons may ride, propelled solely by human power....
B. An electric-assisted bicycle is any bicycle with:
1. Two or three wheels; and
2. Fully operative pedals for human propulsion and equipped with an electric motor:
a. with a power output not to exceed one thousand (1,000) watts,
b. incapable of propelling the device at a speed of more than thirty (30) miles per hour on level ground, and
c. incapable of further increasing the speed of the device when human power alone is used to propel the device at a speed of thirty (30) miles per hour or more.
An electric-assisted bicycle shall meet the requirements of the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards as set forth in federal regulations and shall operate in such a manner that the electric motor disengages or ceases to function when the brakes are applied.
Laws in Oklahoma are vague and hard to find! Doubtful cops know these laws at all...
Mine (that I built) has a throttle and 1KW, I don't have to pedal if I don't want to and there is no speedometer, so class would that be?
Ok so following the federal laws, as a larger person who weighs roughly twice the 175lbs, I should be able to use two 750w motors an go 40mph. Right?
The reason the law on stickers requires the wattage is for multi-drive bikes. I have a Rad Runner first generation, it's a class 2. If I put a front wheel drive conversation kit on it and make it a 2 wheel drive, it would be legally a motorcycle at over 1000W. If I had a 250W bike and put a 250W second drive it could still be a class 1. It's so an officer on scene can do the math if he has to.
Interestingly enough, where I live in Canada, my ebike I bought 2 years ago would be California compliant. I made sure it was within the laws of the province I live in. It has to be 500w or less and can't have a top speed over 30 kmph (which is slightly under 20mph.) It also has to have working pedals; if it's not, then it's probably going to require a license. I don't think it's a problem, but mine can go a little bit faster: 32kmph or 20mph.
I'm in Canada my e-bike seem to go over 32km/h if set to the highest setting with pedelling I can reach 35 to 40 km depending on the surface on the road noticeable most when your on a fully charge battery but once the battery get low it go between 28 to 32
I have a class 3 Cheeta like the one behind you. The laws in my region (BC Canada) allows me to ride on multiuser trails and the public roads. Max road speed under the bikes own power is 32kph (20mph). The e-bike regulation reminds the reader they must adhere to the regular rules of the road like any other bike. Thanks for the informative video.
Thanks for watching!
That way we can still get run over by cars.. good deal..
I lived in China for 3 years, owned a couple different model eScooters (no pedals, much faster than eBike) I ALMOST bought one here in the states (you can buy them online) when I got back but was paranoid about laws... so I bought a Radwagon 4 instead. It arrived last night, will be assembled today.
Do you have any information on mobility scooters for people or person who use Walmart type scooter or the Lark electric scooters? Most scooters can go as fast as 7 to 11 MPH and have no turn signals or headlamp. Some models do have a night time headlamp. Mine has a 6 sided slow vehicle Orange device on my Segway and trike.
It makes sense that a motorized bicycle that can exceed the speed limit (25mph) should have a speedometer.
Does anybody know if i limit my sur ron too 20 mph and 750 watts would it be considerd class two?
If I can modify my bike by installing a motor, batteries, and a throttle, it should be no one else's business unless I'm riding it on sidewalks or pedestrian pathways.
I guess the point is if someone does that with a monster motor capable of 70mph, then certain laws should apply. Here in North Carolina, they made mopeds and scooters (49cc and below) register and get a license plate and insurance. The theory being that if you use the roads, you should help pay for the roads upkeep.
@@jasona8964 License plates and insurance for a bicycle you're stupid never happing.
Curious if there are any class and speed regulations on powered wheelchairs and mobility devices. I've got an old friction drive electric wheelchair that could probably use a dual 750 drive upgrade. Pedals could probably be added up front, do they need to actually connect to anything as long as your pedaling?
thank God i live in Puerto Rico no law's on ebikes just obey basic street laws ☺
Woah! Laws are different everywhere for sure.
Yep
At least you can legally ride as fast as you want to when your fleeing all the muggers
@@mapquestHs 😂
Jaja, dale papi
What classification is the onyx RCR electric bike at seeing how it is capable of achieving 60 mph with a 1200 watt electric hub motor?
Its just cpnsidered illegal but nobody really cares as long as you dont do dumb shit on the roads
I guarantee you you would have to have a smog test to an electric bike in California
Just don't breathe and you'll pass with flying colors.
PooChY DoG , what about “Classical Gas”. Ha ha 😄
I never register my private property whether it is my shoes or my automobile. The only reason people do that shit is under duress and no one had cameras to document the law enforcement's crimes of involuntary servitude! Most people are so stupid and scared that they let other people tell them what to do with their own property like how dark or not their tint is! Tint being dark is not unlawful in fact it is repugnant legality and void of law!
@@Youhaverights6 Most people rather pay the $200 then get harassed. simple two sentences I am a man. who claims I Wrong? how did my license plate not being on the car injure you or cause harm to you??? NO victim NO CASE unless you volunteer. Jail is voluntary just like taxes however if you don't pay your taxes you will go to jail
@@Youhaverights6
Love the name but if you're not registering your vehicle where you live then where you live you must be the only vehicle.
One quibble. The California law does not ban throttles. They just can't provide assist power on Class 1 & 3 unless you're peddling. They can be used to determine the amount of assist. E-Bikes, like bicycles are supposed to obey the following rules of the road. Ride only on the far right side of the road not more than 2 wide. Can use left turn lanes to turn left. Must signal all turns and lane changes. You can use hand signals. Must obey all traffic signals and stop signs. Cannot cross a street in a cross walk unless walking your bike. Must obey one way signs unless walking your bike. I have only seen these enforced very rarely but they can be.
Damn! Do I need to hire a lawyer before I ride my bike? There are so many other problems in this country, yet we have to regulate electric bikes. I'm not mad at you, I'm just mad that our country has come to this. Just found your class 4 stickers...gonna get some!
Here in Alabama I ride my ebike everywhere. Never been stopped by a cop. Have seen a lot of bikes with gas motors riding in cites. I don't thank the cops here give a crap.
I think the laws are most likely only intended to be enforced if people on ebikes become a problem. I imagine it's mostly so there's a legal leg to stand on if someone is being dangerous or inconsiderate on a super powerful ebike. For example, there's a mixed use walking/biking lane at a college near me, and someone going 40 mph on an ebike would be a major safety concern. You could either have a speed limit and use radar to enforce it, or you could just make it illegal to ride an ebike that can go 40 mph on the trail.
@@popholmes5825
Too busy chasing them Duke Boys
@@popholmes5825 gas bikes pay road tax
@@popholmes5825 yea and ebikes are technically illegal in Alabama. Just one those things not being enforceed
This is from 2 years ago can you update it?
I like the static f104 star fighter in the background
I live near Los Angeles. The reality is, California ebike laws are so complicated and convoluted that most people including the police do not know the difference between the classes. To most people an ebike is an ebike. The end result is that class 3 and modified class 2 bikes are being used on bike paths more and more often as electric motorcycles. Rad and Juiced now sell ebikes that resemble those old school gas minibikes. Except they have pedals which technically make them ebikes. But the seat position and frame geometry make efficient pedaling pretty impractical. The promo videos for these machines do not show much pedaling at all.
under federal law a pedaled bicycle CAN NOT be restricted by displacement wattage speed or subject to state regulations.🍻
in maryland and DC the sign i see on trails that say "no motorized vehicle allowed" does this include my ebike?
Do i need to follow the ebike laws during a "peaceful" protest? Which reminds me, can I mount a molotov cocktail launcher on my ebike?
baaahahhhaahh Trump 2020 !!
Stalin approves
I believe mounting a launcher is not permissible but perhaps try emptying the contents of the container over your body, ignite with an approved source of flame and run towards your target. Please let us know how this works out.
If you live in NY or LA. it's reccommended.
It's amazing how this totally unrelated topic can elicit the most moronic comments, you're an embarrassment to America.
🤔14:16 look closer they should have a vin#. Both of my bikes do. I have two bikes one is your Standard mountain bike (has a vin#) and the second one is a gas powered bike (it has a vin#).
It should be on the frame both of mine are under the pedals.
It depends on the Police Officer, and what kind of mood they are in. They're all legal once you take them above 20 miles an hour.
You said that won't they are all legal up to 19.9. All gas are illegal by epa standards, they do not have smog control.
I’m putting a 750watt motor on my Belize three wheel in the back where the rack goes also I have a throttle so what do I do I’m almost done with it except for the final wire
I dot really care about the law.
I live in England and I always fly on the road more than 35+ mhp
Smart man... me either and I live here in America .. but for some dumb ass law that I didn't consent telling how fast I could go is obsurd...
Yeah they ain't going to give me any shit in Philadelphia we got people riding around in groups of hundreds riding quads and dirt bikes owning the streets...
@@Windowlesswhitevan my brother, Nephew and I ride motorized bike at nearly 40mph. We are completely ignored by the police, because we wear our helmets. That really seems to be the thing they look out for.
I live out in Nebraska(aka farm country) and nobody cares(as long as you are not under the influence of substances), because there are no Ebikes out here in the Boonies as of yet(ordering mine soon)...
Thought limit was 15.5 mph in 🇬🇧 😆
I have an old chromed out lowrider bicycle, is it possible to use a bafeng or bosch center motor assist with it? Thank you!
Dude on my regular pedal bike I usually go about 35 mph. Is that even legal? My bike has no gas or electric motor just pedals.
Prob might have to get ur legs registered to only go under 28mph
@@RandomVidz9_ lol🤣
I notice 10 speeds pass me all the time on my class 2 Ebike. When my battery dies it’s like the drive wheel is not free wheeling. Rosarita to Ensenada Mexico after the two hills, one nick named the wall; 40+ mph were obtained on the slight downhill. I guess if you crash on a 10 speed. It won’t be as bad as an Ebike crash.
Omg I've been looking for a vid like this. Ty for the education.
I go to Michigan once in awhile were Class1 is only allowed on bike paths. I have a DIY which I can program my throttle not to work and adjust my mph to 20 with only PAS, I wonder if it is legal HWEN I can make tose adjustments before I ride on a bike path? I did make a sticker classifying my DIY 750w as a Class 1 - in case I go to Michigan and ride.
As long as you're at less than the speed of light it's legal.
Breaking speed of sound over populated areas is illegal due to broken windows
Gravity -
It's the law
Have you got a video on the pros and cons of buying a new ebike vs. converting an existing bike?
All things considered, I think we can rest assured that wearing a helmet if you are going over 28 MPH (pedaling or not) will afford safety from the law and perhaps, to your head.
wearing a helmet at any speed is a safe idea when you're on a bike
@@kasuraga It's safer on a motorcycle that can exceed 100mph wearing protective gear than on a bicycle limited to 20 while wearing only your shorts.
So in class 2 and 3, what are the wattage and passenger weight restrictions in federal?
Fortunately I live in New Hampshire, where class two and three ebike laws are light years ahead of other states. They’re basically considered regular bicycles on multi use paths and roads, and require no registration or fees. Helmets are not required over the age of 16, however I choose to wear one myself. Where in neighboring Massachusetts, their ebike laws are draconian to say the least. Class two ebikes are on the same level as mopeds, requiring a drivers license, annual registration fees, and helmet for all ages. They are also prohibited from multi use paths, trails, and state parks. For a state that brags how progressive they are, green energy transportation is made expensive, difficult, and over regulated. Living on the border of the two states I have no desire to cross into Massachusetts anytime soon. I’m a bit disappointed the federal government hasn’t eased restrictions on national parks and forests, and developed nationwide reasonable ebike laws which would more encourage clean daily commutes back and forth to work, school, or everyday errands.
I also live in nh so u don't need a license or anything
I don't understand why the complexity. Just put up a speed limit and keep your vehicle under that speed. Can you imagine if we used the same e-bike logic for cars? My Mustang can exceed 15mph, but I would not be able to drive it on my neighborhood street since the speed limit is 15mph. Oh, but let's have a law that provides an exception like it is okay to drive your 6 cylinder car, but not 8.
As he rides away, without a helmet, on his Class 3 ebike! 😉
❤
I'm looking into this a bit late. Want an ebike for taking from road into hard to reach lakes, streams, and ponds.
The comment about Alaska has me writing this. I went to Fairbanks last year, there was a dirt bike and side-by-side in the McDonald's parking lot, and an ATV (quad bike) in the Safeway parking lot next to the McDonald's. I was staying in a hotel and the Safeway was where I was shopping. The cashier rides the ATV to work as his daily. I also saw a 450-500cc dirt bike flying down the sidewalk next to the highway, it was going faster than me and I was going 70mph. I don't think Alaska has too many vehicle laws.
Did you see the the Forest Service is taking comments on allowing e-bikes on bike trails through 10/26?
I really want the law makers who wrote this legislation to be forced to ride to and from work for a few years with a motor less than 750watts
Thank you for the video...Have a blessed day..
I used to ride my Specialized hard rock sport at up to and over 30 mph with just peddling and up to 50 mph down gravel road hills, so the laws seem a little ridiculous for a electric bike that won't even do 30 mph. It'd be like taxing Lance Armstrong for being in really good shape.
Very nice presentation of a complex issue. More complex than it should be. Thank you!
Agreed!
Yes, nice presentation. It is complex to the point of insensibility (or nonsensibility?) In any case, the logic and intent of the regulations is difficult to follow.
I’ve got a hillclimber front wheel with a push button throttle on a kick bike. No pedals. Sweet stand up ride,up to 15 mph . I do assist kick it up hills. A dream to ride for my 145 pounds. I even have a bike trailer to haul some stuff. The motors rated up to 300 pounds,and the trailers rated for a hundred. It’s hard to see where it fits into the pedal ,pedal free,one two three classes . That I don’t see being enforced,because nobody know how a child protective seats suppose to go yet. Each bike comes with the assurance,you can ride it. On another thought,that’s a sweet bike you have. Is it under three grand? Mine was 750 and two years later bought another one and the trailer for 850. Now I got a beautiful outing for two,solar charged for up to forty miles. Slicing air with sunshine
Great info! I appreciate it because I will be riding my new Cheetah all around the country. By the way, the Cheetah is FANTASTIC! It is the most comfortable bicycle I've ever had and it grabs attention like crazy! Such a great addition to your lineup! Thanks Kyle!
Yep.... love mine.... Got a Go Go Best ebike too... it's nice too
My Totem Victor 2.0 (class 2) will accelerate up to 22 mph but after a few seconds it drops to ~ 19.7, is that because of a speed limiter?
I live in the US where class 2s are limited to 20mph
If you have an electric bike that goes over 35 mph,. You will be charged and you will get either life in prison or the death sentence, for riding your bike without the proper permit..
Really?
@@imayummysteak8184 No, you won't.
Can anyone tell me what class a Razor Rambler 16 is? It's throttle only, no pedals, 350 Watts. Is it allowed on most trails in California?
Interesting and quite different from rules in Denmark.
We have two classes of e-bikes:
1. Regular E-bike.
250W motor max.
Assist mode ONLY.
Topspeed 25kph (15.6mph)
2. Speed-pedelec
250w motor max.
Assist mode only.
Topspeed 45kph (28mph)
Must have front and rear lights on all times.
Must wear helmet.
Must have insurance. (if you hit a pedestrian, regular bike or regular e-bike, responsibility will automatically fall on you)
Both types of bikes can of course drive faster, just not with motor assist.
However I have yet to see any e-bike be pulled over by the police to check for anything, which is kinda sad. There are plenty of people riding around on obviously tuned e-bikes (+30mph) on bike paths in a city with tens of thousands of bike riders and it's just not safe. There was recently a case about a e-bike doing 70kph (+43mph) in a city, which is insane. Some people forget they only have bicycle brakes on their bike.
EU e bike law sucks uk needs to change over to the USA e bike law fuck 250w it should be 750w for the UK and only 250w to 500w for e scooters
They should be allowed on the road, not on bike trails. Why,, because a heavy E -bike is gonna do more damage to a kid riding his regular peddle bike on a tight bike trail. Mark my words , accidents will go up on bike trails and theres gonna be serious injuries and deaths also.. I can see an older person driving it responsibly to go up hills and commute, but young kids gonna abuse the speeed. I already seen a kid go off course on one going fast, nearly hit a tree and people sitting on the bench off to the side.. Good luck
Boy, do I have mixed feelings about this video.
The clarification is great.
Providing a tool for bureaucrats to refer to when planning new restrictions , taxes, regulations is not, so, good.
This could be all a 'busybody political advisor' needs to feed to a 'less than well meaning politician' to develop a new platform to "exploit".
There is just enough information in your seemingly accurate, well done, video to create a 'marketable controversy' for media or political gain.
I don't see this being a favor to your industry especially in California.
That's just my observation after more than 50 years in this world.
(I am a class 3 ebike owner not on the west coast)
For all you potential naysayers I shouldn't need to point out what has happened to the Model Aircraft hobby and Drones in the last few years thanks to the exact same reasons.
In Florida, gas engine assist on bicycles are not legal because of something a few stupid people did.
Morons
so what if you have front and rear 750 or 1000W motors 2 independent systems with 2 throttles which class is it? is the wattage added for collective output or looked independently because all we are doing is doubling the torque not the speed. controllers can be programmed to control the speed.
Thank you for helping me to decide that I will buy a scooter long before I ever will an ebike , when I was growing up we all had bike with lawn mower engines and back then police usually would like that a kid could build something on our own ingenuity and back then we respected the police not resist them .
As a person who likes to build things myself, I find that frustrating.
The pedal bikes are often going as fast as ebikes so what's the problem? If ebikes go faster than 28 they go out on the roads and then they should have a few more mph available to keep up with the flow of traffic for safety readons.
Back then serve and protect was more than a slogan and catchphrase.
Do these laws also apply to electric unicycles?
What I learn is that my 1,500 w motor is illegal but atleast I have a class 2 sticker. ;)
No one knows it’s 1500 generally they don’t say on the motor so technically it can be a 500 watt
Do you know?
I'm disabled (unable to pedal)
I put a 735 watt wheelchair motor/gearbox on a fat tire bike.
It drives 27 mph.
Where do I fit in? Does ADA help?
Great video! Thanks to you I now know that Ohio slightly edges out California in being e-bike friendly, with no throttle verbiage in the law about e-bikes. Woo hoo.
i just bought 1 from Walmart with 4yr accident warranty but it came ina box but it says 85% together but it dont look like i need to just do 15% so any suggestions?? i live in cali
I've been harassed two times of one of my gas 4 stoke motorized bikes. No citations yet. But one time was a little rough, on the side of the road for a half hour two officers, Frisk me twice search my bag, ran my driver's license. And we played 10,000 questions. Why this why that blah blah blah, Till I started looking at them like there are a bunch of crackheads. Then they me go, and told me not to come back to their town. I go back once in awhile.
Sounds awfull. Where did this happen?
@@DragnesiNH ever since that happened I ride mostly in Maine now. I live on the border. Maine is so chill about that kind of stuff police officers don't even give me a second look. New Hampshire they love to harass people on bicycles even once without Motors.
@@marcs4091 that's because they are looking for cash to confiscate (rob). The cops have a set amount they have to bring in and they all fish certain roads for drivers with cash.