14 Things You Should Never Do On Your E Bike | EMTB Mistakes
Вставка
- Опубліковано 4 чер 2024
- There are loads of things that you should be doing on your E Bike, but here are 14 things you should never do. Not doing these things will help your EMTB stay fresh for longer and keep you safe on all of your epic rides!
Subscribe to EMBN: embn.me/subscribenow
Pick up official EMBN merch: embn.me/xG
Follow us on Instagram or Facebook! @emountainbikenetwork
Sign up to the EMBN newsletter: embn.me/newsletter
Please submit your content to our uploader: upload.embn.com/ we love to check out what you have been up to and may feature it on the show!
Have you made any of these mistakes?
Watch more on EMBN...
📹 embn.me/OffGridCharging
📹 embn.me/misconceptions
If you'd like to contribute captions and video info in your language, here's the link 👍 embn.me/xF
🎵 Music - licensed by Epidemic Sound
A Mist Of Lies (Instrumental Version) - Sven Karlsson
As Real As It Gets - Matt Large
#EMBN #EMTB #MountainBiking #eBiking #MountainBike #MTB #BikeLife #Cycling #Ebike
The Electric Mountain Bike Network (EMBN) is the world’s leading electric mountain bike (eMTB) channel and community.
Dedicated to igniting your passion for eMTBs, EMBN delivers weekly original content to inspire you to take your riding further, faster - and with more fun.
Whether you live to conquer the techiest terrain - both up and down; to access and explore the beautiful backcountry; or simply to pack as much fun as you can into the precious riding time you have, EMBN is dedicated to covering eMTB from every angle.
From inspiring you to go electric - helping you understand what you need, where and how to ride to get the best from your eMTB experience, and more - through showcasing and exploring the latest, most innovative tech, empowering and entertaining features, to skills videos that help you progress and can tackle ever-more adventurous terrain, and much, much more.
Every week we bring you informative and entertaining videos on…
- The know-how…
- The skills…
- The tech…
- The inspiration…
...to go faster and explore more!
EMBN is mountain biking… fully charged: helping you go faster, further, and with more adventures than ever before.
Join the EMBN community:
Facebook:
Instagram: embn.me/instagram
Twitter: embn.me/embntwitter
Thanks to our sponsors:
Specialized: embn.me/specialized
Haibike: embn.me/haibike
Canyon: embn.me/canyon
Ergon: embn.me/ergon
Maxxis: embn.me/maxxis
Park Tool: embn.me/parktool
Garmin: embn.me/garmin
Muc-Off - embn.me/MucOff
Mavic Wheels: gmbn.eu/Mavic - Спорт
Have you made any of these mistakes?
Definitely made the mistake once of working on the drivetrain with power on, almost took a couple fingers off. Never made that mistake again.
Tbh just the one about overtaking people on road bikes. Yes they caught me back up when I stopped but it took them a fair while. Still it was fun. I made sure I said hi as I went past them. Not sure if that made them think I was any less of a nob, or more of a nob? 🤷🏻♂️😊
Keep up the great work team EMBN 😊👍🏻
Thanks for the tips, no brainers. Riding a Giant Hard-tail in the South Island of NZ, 500w battery. Just done the Lake Ohau ride last weekend. Beautiful scenery and no-one else there.
Koan show ‘em p
I think you should clarify the time after a full charge but, with the charger still connected, it takes for the bms within the battery to balance all the individual cells.
I'm 57 y.o. and got my first e bike about a month ago. I am so happy with it I feel like a kid again, but cooler. I commute to work and back daily and pleasure ride on and off road. I feel like a new and different man. I love it.
(26" fat tire dual suspension e mountain bike)
How much did you spend on yours i am curious
I'm 60 and just got mine...I feel the same way! Amazing fun! To Patrick, spent about 5K USD on mine (Bakcou) and am really glad I did...the purchase and customer service has been way over the top)
@@patrickronquillo4548 it was originally 1299.00 but it went on clearance with only 2 left of that model and I got it for 600.00 plus tax with free delivery from Amazon. I still ride every day. I upgraded tires and tubes to anti puncture ones for off road and snow. I had to replace my brake pads at 900 miles. I now have over 2,000 miles on her and she's still going strong.
Best purchase I ever made.
It's a RockShark mountain bike. Fat tire 4"x26
Exactly....me too
58 and I'm getting my 1st bike since 1990 today 😎 yes an e bike too
Why am I watching this I don’t even have an e bike
But you will!
Dreams come true
I don't have one either, but Ive been saving 5 dollars a day for the last 4 months. I'm getting there
Best thing I ever did I got the yt base 29er.
Why am I reading this? I don't even care.
Amongst other bikes, I also own an illegal (30 mph) mid drive bike, I have been cycling all my life and am now 70, here are some of my tips: ALWAYS drive in full turbo mode . ALWAYS overtake MAMILS at every opportunity. Smoke a pipe while passing them, ask politely if this is the right way to (wherever) whilst using your pipe to gesture and point. Thank them, then speed off ahead. Wear big boots and heavy tweeds, show your grey/balding head to all.
Fuck ‘em, I’ve earned this.
LOL
Bad ass. What kinda bike do you ride gramps?
Haha! Fooking brilliant!
@@ODgreenery Not the bike It’s the shit in his pipe you need to be asking!!
Jon White, also known as a Legend27
Usually the cassette and chain ring last way longer than the chain. I use three chains and change them way earlier than neccessary. So I can use the cassette and chain ring longer. Saves money and the environment.
Exactly! I've never replaced my cassette just because I was replacing a chain.
I look for a treebranch if I´m riding in a forest and get at puncture. It´s great if you could find a branch level with your head or slightly higher. Just hang the bike with the saddle over the branch. It´s like having a workstand out in nature, it has helped me a few times...
Just like a rack at a park!
@@Wolleiballa1 doesn't everybody just double their handcuffs in that case ❔
I just flip the bike upside down. I have a thick microfiber towel I put under the bars and seat.
Great idea for those of you who are *strong* enough to lift your ebike that high. LOL, I am a 71 year old female, if I had to change a tire, I would turn the bike over and put padding under the bars and seat.
Another helpful tip is to remove your battery before transporting on a bike rack
Just bought my first eMTB, and while some of your tips seems obvious I wouldn't have thought of them without your video so Thank You.
Thanks for this! Lots of good tips, but the last item alone made watching the video worthwhile.
This was very informative. For the new riders, it puts them in an advanced minde-frame so that they feel competent. Thank You
I just bought one so these helpful hints are perfectly timed. Thank you.
Thanks for a heads up on the Strava Privacy Zones. Been cropping all my rides without knowing its existence.
Great tips dude! The wife's new EEB should be turning up today so this was perfectly timed 👍🤘
"if you want to avoid scuffing up your bike, just prop it up on a bunch of rocks"
But .. the rocks were under the rubber grips 👍🏻
Good advice but I would add two things leave the battery half an hour after a ride before charging and don't store below 5c or charge at those temps found out the hard way about that,same goes for extreme heat 45c and above,don't believe me then check on what the manufacturers say.
Number 1 tip what not to do should be.
"Don't speak to me as you pass me struggling uphill on my analog bike 😔"
Lol
May I offer you a tow? ;) Not really. My smile would be from joy that I can continue to ride now that I can no longer provide all the pedal power myself and from my admiration that you can and you do.
Just laugh
The power electronics to drive the motor is also mainly analog.
1:33 No no an no! A charger needs to be connected for sometimes even a few days to balance the cells. I've had batteries that were so far out of balance that it took a full week to rebalance it. Also unplugging the charger the moment its done charging is a great way to actually get a unbalanced battery pack.
A bms works by measuring the lowest and highest charged cells. then it puts a load on the high cells (with resistors and mosfets) until the voltage drops to the lowest cell's voltage. Then it charges everything back up again. This takes time (days and in some causes even weeks) and only works when the charger is plugged in.
This does not apply to every bike / battery pack.
I have a smart bluetooth BMS in my bike, it can balance even off charge. You can get over 4x lifespan by only charging the battery to 80% instead of 100%
Note: I have a big 1450Wh 112 cell 35E battery so 80% charge will give me plenty of range
Leaving your battery at 4.2v per cell for days will severely degrade its lifespan. If you have a cheapo BMS, then do ensure it's balanced but only do that occasionally by charging to 100% and use the bike as soon as its done balancing
@@TheAviation101 If you can balance off charge then yes go for it. But with most batterypacks (that dont show individual cell levels) you're taking a big gamble as you can brick your pack by getting it to far out of balance. I've seen it happen many times...
And those 4 times the lifespan is bullshit. If that were true every bms would cut off on 80%. And its not charging that kills the battery but heavy discharge and heating cycles.
@@FullFledged2010 It's true, look it up
Hundreds of research papers on the subject.
This is why many electric cars you see have good range, even over time as the battery degrades. The way it works is when you buy it brand new, they only charge to 80% and discharge to 20%. As the battery degrades, the firmware allows the battery to charge higher and discharge lower. Eventually, it will allow the battery to charge to 100% and discharge to 0% (~2.8v per cell in some cases)
Reason it's not done on ebikes is because the batteries are small and people need the range. For custom built ebikes like mine, you can buy special chargers which have a toggle switch to go between 80, 90 and 100% charging.
iOS and android phones have now incorporated smart charging. If you have a modern device and look in settings, you might find an option to enable smart charging. What this does is learns from your sleep pattern what time you wake up and modifies the charging routine accordingly. It will keep the battery at around 80% / 90% charge and charge the last 10% / 20% about 1 hour before you wake up. This is because having the battery at its full charge for long without discharging it will affect its lifespan
Working on the chain with the bike powered on is a MASSIVE no-no if you have a mid drive bike, but this also counts for hub-drives.
If you've got the thing running while you're down there, and you bump your pedals, that motor's coming to life and that bike could very easily trample you.
15 "And last (but by no means least) and the most important thing not to do, you should never ever forget to... "
Thanks chuck I’ll never forget
We find the biggest drive train issues are caused by lack of cleaning off old lubes .Another issues that arises often is when people clean bikes upside down and combing this with pad. Ware on hydraulic systems can and often does trap air in mostly the rear systems especially if not bled often enough .
Always enjoy your shows Chris ,thanks mate for the info
Lots of useful and important information! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Very useful video, I already do everything you suggest as they make perfect sense. Except the last point, don’t map to your front door, I would never have thought about it. Great tip, thanks.
Well done sir yes a plethora of information and I consider myself well informed yet again I overestimate my skills thank you
Thank you for sharing your obvious nuggets of experience.
Good info .. thanks for sharing your experience!
Thank you for this useful video, especially the battery information 👍
Good advice, thanks for sharing.
Thank you for sharing these tips, learned a lot :)
To add to provisions: an electrolyte tablet (e.g. High Five Zero) makes a huge difference if you have sweat a lot. There can be only so much water you can take, if you have streams or other non-contaminated water (farming chemicals, industry, etc.) then you can take a water filter e.g. a Saywer and top up your water sources.
Oh, shoot! I didn’t think about sharing my route that leads from and to my home! Great tip.
Great tips, Thank you!
LMAO at the roadie tip. So true, especially here in NYC in Central Park once you get to the Harlem Hills. It's always fun to pass them when there are a lot of hills, but after that, they will just blow past you. Even with my 25 MPH top speeds, they are the only type of bike that still manages to pass me, lol.
wow thats actually a list thats quite helpfull! thanks for that :)
Great tips Chris. 👍
Thanks EMBN, great advice. Had not thought about switching off power when meddling with a stuck chain out on a ride - that could go nasty as you say.
Glad it helped! 🤗
Really important safety tip. Nasty injuries.
Another tip (from experience) - dont use degreaser / wd40 on the motor as it can get into the bearings and cause premature failure
This timer trick might actually backfire if you use the type of timer you showed in the video. If you set it for 4hours it will charge for 4 and charge for 4 every next day until you unplug. So a smart charger that would charge battery and switch off would be pluged in and restarted every day.
you could simply set a timer on your phone which reminds you to unplug it
Rocking the silver fox Chris, you could be the world's first to back flip fully silver foxed up in the near future 👍🤞
Put poly bags over your disks. Fully wrap it. Extra 10 seconds, so you can be a little careless with spray lubes or cleaners on the drivetrain.
Don't drink all your water.
Keep a tiny bit of water in your bottle for ride home. There's sometimes an insect that gets stuck in the back of your dry throat on the way home. That little drop of water. Is a lifesaver.
I use dog shit bags.
Lifestraw in Swat box.
Don't use grease/oil in spray ;) if possible - choose one in "oridinary" bottles with point tip
Aerosoles are more expensive and splits droplets on all area.
@@CurvedSlightly Me too,after ruining two sets of pads
A LED bar on my battery cover is first covered with a condom. Perfect to keep things dry. Never again in blindness, with battery or cover at night, always have a spare light, the woods can be pitch black. A hand picked toolbox and repair kits are essential! :) Love the small tools compared to a MC, easy to just have what you need on the go :)
if you fall try even it out, never try to think you can with 1 hand stop 100kg going Just 10mph even, i did, 2 fingers had the bones on the outside of the skin. I was so afraid for the bike and gear tried on auto to save things from damage, but serioisly falling properly is key, and hard on a new 5K bike feels sick but they are made to be handled a little ruff, we also just try even the weight out, roll or what ever :)
The plug timer featured on your ‘under a tenner’ previous vid was one of the best cheap things I’ve bought. I got a saddle stem bag with zip ties, puncture kit, multi tool, wheel magnet and micro bike pump all because of this too 👍
Doesn’t the bag hit when you lower the dropper post?
I carry inexpensive computer mouse pads (3) to pad contact points when bike is upside down. The pads are light and roll up into a small space.
Great video! Straight to the point.
Very good info. Thanks.
Very informative especially for new buyers like me, I purchased an Aventon Sinch from SWFL Golf Carts and its a great bike with plenty of perks
Glad it was helpful!
Great video, some good points. Im new to ebikes, just bought a Cube Kathmandu pro for touring. Thank you
These are some great tips, thanks for posting.
The Strava tip is a good one, even on my car GPS I don't have "Home" set to where I actually live.
Strava thing is a no brainer, not saving home on Maps is a bit paranoid
@@RLSteffler Car was broken into a few weeks ago, and the GPS was stolen (along with everything else in the car). If our keys had been taken, there would have been a clear link and access back to our front door. Obviously, YMMV...
Somehow I don't think the scumbag would have been using the home location to return our stuff.
Just put in the address of someone you don't like.
@@aaronsmyth7943 now that's thinking 😂
@@Mark-gd5vr my home address is set at a pub half a mile away
I take it was a choice between an ebike or a new kitchen 😂 good choice !!
Great info, thanks!!
I agree with everything you said and well said. I would suggest to use a bike computer that can upload to strava when you get home. Be blessed
You do not always need to change your chain and cassette / chainring together . Thats BS! EMBN
1000 miles on mine but pure laziness on my part.
fucking bull shit in this video... if you go to a shop to do this your looking at a few hundred at least to do this... maybe even a grand... just not needed...
We was always told you don’t put a new chain on worn parts on our motocross bikes but I’m sure you can get away with it on a mtb.
@@joski9030 you dont just replace parts. you mic out the parts and determine if they have stretch or play in them. then replace as needed. the world has gotten lazy and everything from automotive to computers just get whole sets of brand new parts thrown at them and its contributing to the massive waste in the world and costing consumers more money than needed
Fantastic advise...all of it !
Learnt something there, cheers
Love it! Very durable and well made
My e-mtb is a CARGO e-mtb that I use for hunting and exploring off road. It is an E-CELLS Super Monarch Crown 2 wheel drive with 2 BAFANG 53 v, 750 watt motors, 2 Samsung batteries of 20 and 15 volts, dual suspension (RokShoks rear damper), dual crown fork, 2.3 mm thick brake rotors, 4 piston brakes, (nine!) levels of torque sensing assist, Front and Rear racks and fenders and much more all for $5,100. Compare that with the lack of features on a RAMBO Megatron selling for $7,299.
Leaving your pack on charge can only be recommended once every couple months for at least 5 ext a hours so the battery cells balance themselves, helping your battery healtier
Great advice and to the point.
the last advice is priceless !!! thanks
After cleaning and lubing my e bike, I always wipe the brake disc rotors with pre-paint panel wipe on a peace of paper towel, this will remove any grease or wax from the surface, and it won’t damage the paint work, you could use brake cleaner but don’t get it on the paint as it can damage it. Cheers mate good tips, 🇬🇧👍
methylated spirit on a cloth works too
You should never let your chain get to the point where you have to change the cassette and chain ring as well .
The secret is to just every now and then check chain for stretch and when the chain just gets to the point we're the 1mm indicator on tool for testing stretch falls in between link just fit a new chain,this will stop the chain from riding up out of the gullet and wearing the top of the teeth causing more wear.
You can follow this process for about four chains before you even need to replace the ring and cassette, and it will save you 100s of $$$$
Really useful - thanks
Last advice - I belive Strava has "privacy zone" set as default. You can change it a bit - but always is generated automatically/random centered
Now Strava lets you crop the beginning and the end of your trip.
Depending on your charger, you might be able to leave it plugged in indefinitely. Mine is 54.6V which will charge my 48V battery a little beyond the 53.0 max over time so you cannot leave it on that charger. I do, however, leave it plugged into my electronic CV/CC buck converter that I have set for a slightly lower voltage. But, another one of this reviewer's points was never to store a lithium battery at 100% for an extended period of time (and he's right), so when I said "indefinitely" I really just meant hours or days.
Thank you🙏🏼
finally the reason you need an e bike is to bring all that extra gear you need to take care of the bike
What extra gear?
Fucking melt..
For battery storage it's actually better to keep the battery between 20 and 80%, so to charge it at 100% and then let it sit is actually not good for it as well
Exactly, as said in the video.
As a new E-Bike rider I found this video spot on and probably learnt a few things.
Good tip with the timer on the charger
The timer trick is BRILLIANT!
Awesome advice dude.
A WORKSTAND is true for ALL bikes. Best tool for wrenching your own bike. I still use a folding portable Park Bike stand I bought almost 30 years ago. It's where I usually park the bike after every ride.
Thank you!
Some great tips !!
Excellent tips
GOOD VIDEO THANK U
Great tip on charge timer.
Here's a massive NO NO in this video. Charging your battery indoors AND at the foot of the stairs, your main escape route at night. Do not leave it on charge overnight, try not to charge it indoors but if you must then get youself a decent metal container to house it during charging, do not leave it charging unattended. There has been a massive increase in Lithium battery fires, some of them fatal. A runaway battery will burst into flames in seconds with an intensity you would not believe and you will not be able to extinguish it with water you can apply. It's hard enough for professional firefighters to extunguish them so you have no chance. Just get out, get everyone out and stay out.
Well done video
Great video.
Feeling a little guilty after this, but thanks all the same. Good info.
Brilliant video
That's a really good point about changing the privacy settings on Strava so people don't know where you live. Unfortunately I has a scroat follow me home and that same night, they broke into the garage and garden shed but didn't find my bike as it was locked up inside the house.
Interesting video full of tips and tricks. Unfortunately I scratched the glass of my Bosch Purion display while putting my eBike upside down. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️. Will it exist the replacement glass?
If there’s anyone behind me when I’m riding home I go around the block just to make sure they are not following me home. Call me paranoid, I don’t care, it’s my pride and joy and I don’t want it to be someone else’s the week after.
Data Analyst well yeah!
I do the same to many bike thefts going on at the moment
Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean nobody is watching / following you. A healthy dose of carefulness is never a bad thing
Paranoa will annoya
@@gordonwright85 they don't have to follow you mate.... absolutely definitely assume that every scally in the area has heard on the grapevine that there is an emtb association with iether a person or a house street estate town . wherever.....lick it up.....they already know it's there trust me.....
My 2 cents: I always leave the battery from 30-60% when not in use. then set the charge with a wi-fi switch directly from the phone
I just bought a used one the guy bought it for $1799.00 and put about another in accessories to it and upgrades I picked it up for he just wanted to get rid of it I rode it around it is wonderful. I'm so happy I got it up to 26 in the second
Loving my first Ebike 😃
Have you already planned your wedding ?
I hope you are using protection bud
Loving this video soo far
Jacob Rides so eager to comment. Pausing the video. Make the comment. Continues watching 😁
Did you ever finish the video?
Oh, I like the timer!
Hey mate, just in regards to point 4. The timer is a great idea, but you shouldn't leave the battery connected to a charger even if it is off, almost all chargers have a parasitic draw when connected and this will slowly drain your battery if left connected when not in use.
The timer physically breaks the connection. There is no way for electricity to pass through that timer
Bill Moron: Parasitic draw? 😆 Please quit making things up. This channel is to help educate others, not confuse them.
@@gustafandersson237 the timer connects the line side, not the load. Almost every charger I've tested has a few mA of flow through the charging circuitry even if disconnected from the wall. It's easier to test yourself with a multimeter rather than continue to insist I'm wrong :-)
@@BillMaryon a few mah/hr is nothing to be concerned about over the course of even several weeks.
While I agree that leaving a battery on charge for long periods after it is full is a bad idea, it's important to periodically leave it connected overnight because the bms (battery management system) in the battery needs time to balance all the cells. This often Occurs while the green 'full' light has switched on. The charger supply's just enough current to the battery to allow the bms to balance and this takes hours. This should be scheduled for once a month(ish).
I don't believe you.
@@baevere what don't you believe? Perhaps go and visit a site called 'endless sphere', where you will find plenty of good information on the upkeep of li ion batteries. Btw, I build my own and am confident in the knowledge gained over years.
I smell bull shit
@@Cookie.x.monsterr How is this so hard to understand? A bms works by measuring the lowest and highest cell. then it puts a load on the high cells (with resistors and mosfets) until the voltage drops to the lowest cell's voltage. Then it charges everything back up again. This takes time (days and in some causes even weeks) and only works when the charger is plugged in.
@@FullFledged2010 you should not leave charger in for weeks, thats is not safe, at all. battery are very dangerous when they catch alight, the fumes of them can permanently damage your organs, and trying to put out a battery is very hard.
Lithium batteries should be stored at 40% charge and in a cool place. Over discharging them is one of the worst things you can do, so try not to push them to shutdown. Also storing them with a full charge will shorten their overall lifespan.
I ran my battery until it stopped giving me power but it doesn't allow itself to run down completely and the screen still worked. If it did then the battery would die instantly.
Not sure this is true in 2023, pretty sure you should store fully charged nowadays
nothing like being guilty of the "leaving on charge" point while watching this video
Thank you for your advices. I always put on „where is“ on my Iphone. So, my wife can follow the ride. I am almost everytime alone on my rides.
I would say the high gear cogs that are easy to replace are the ones you need to focus on; they wear the most on any bike. I only use the other gears for hills.. high quality chains last a lot longer; name brands. Storage and charging firebags are $20 and probably worth it; remove the battery to charge in the bag; or bring the battery in the house to keep out of the cold or heat.
Just installed bbs01.
Motor worked on ground test before installing but motor won’t Run.
Bought two motors and the other does the same.
These videos are very helpful but I feel I’m missing something.
Any ideas?
The roadies never catch me in pure electric mode 🙃🤭 💨💨💨💨💨💨
whoa bro ura pro, tnx!
(replace the chain and cassette ar same time?)
i change chains after around 700-800km and did not change the cassette yet,
bike has been used for 4k and cassette is still in pretty good shape.