Steve Reviews: Alice 1988
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2023
- Since reviewing Alice in Wonderland from 1933, people had been sending all sorts of recommendations of other dark takes on the property. One I saw particarly a lot for was Alice 1988. A much darker take on the story which provides plenty of creepy and disturbing moments, and of course, it uses stop motion...
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Burton's version should have been like this. His Hansel & Gretel short film had some creepy and bizarre choices in it.
I've think he'll do a Review on Hoodwinked Too! Hood Vs. Evil (2011)
Tim Burton from the 80s and 90s definitely would've done that.
Good ol' Tim Burton.
Why do so many hate him?
Alice Madness Returns feels more Tim Burton than Tim Burton's Alice In Wonderland.
There was probably a lot of studio meddling.
This was legit one of my favourite versions of Alice growing up. Having lived in a small rural town as a kid, I understand and relate to the scarcety of toys and the fun in using objects aroud you (yes, even dead animals) as dolls and puppets. Also the house in which the story takes place reminds me a lot of my great grandma's house. Super big and confusing and fun in the eyes of a child with a lot of empty rooms, in disrepair and filled with all sorts of strange farm tools and sharp objects from a bygone era and previous occupants that you never even got to meet. I remember for example playing with someone's old baby teeth (probably my mum's or my aunts') and and old coin in an improvised dollhouse I made with wooden scraps, carboard and a horseshoe. Those were the days lmfao. I swear you haven't know the fear of death unless you've played rough with village kids.
That was such an interesting comment. Although a bit sad to read. I also grew up in a small semi-rural town and spent a lot of time with my friends withough the parental supervision but I fortunately don't recall any "creepy" "toys". The only creepy thing was a goat pelt and some goat horns which were just there at a sandlot near the house, but fortunately we didn't play with it although it looked interesting it us. Probably there were some adult neighbours around who would shout at us for using such things in our games.
Once a friend of mine shared her recollection of how they played with the dried bones of some animals as kids and I was started by that because
A) that was an option? Some did kids perceive such material as potential toys?
B) what a creepy comcept.
Thank you for prviding me with some thought provoking stuff , it's really interesting thing to meditate on. It's really interesting to try to remember what was our attitude to this sort of things when we were kids.
Never saw this growing up as a kid but I can definitely relate to your comment and it's why I loved this movie so much from the moment I found it. The set of the story also reminds me of my grandmothers house from when I was a kid lol. She was a bit of a horder and had a large property with lots of old decrepit buildings filled with old weird stuff and there were chickens running wild everywhere. As a kid I would explore the old rooms and sheds and overgrown parts of the property and the whole experience was uncannily similar to Alice's adventures in this movie, it was a dark and kinda dangerous adventure filled with old stuff weird toys and dead animals but I look back on those memories very fondly and feel sorry for kids that never got to experience such adventures.
All these creepy Alice movies are reminding me of a short film I watched for an art class entitled "Jabberwocky" (also by Jan Svankmajer). It's more based on the Poem by Lewis Carrol than Alice in Wonderland itself, but it's still very within the spirit of it, and I remember it actually being honestly kind of unnerving.
Svankmajer is legendary as a filmmaker and an animator. He's also unapologetically creepy.
There are a lot of Eastern European stop motion films that draw back to the countries' puppet entertainment traditions (which are also more likely to scare kids than entertain them).
Because of the specialty of the school, we passed him primarily as an artist. After graduating, I began to learn more about his work in animation.
While I haven't played it myself (or even seen a full playthrough of it, in all honesty) I think it would be fair to say that original American McGee's Alice and it's following sequel Alice: Madness Returns nails the idea of Wonderland being more of a dream world in Alice's head, combined with darker aspects such as trauma.
Yeah, we can't turn cartoon review channel into a gaming channel... can we?
Me and my step sister constantly replay these games off and on. They are so good and messed up.
Madness returns is pretty good
@@justincase5002 eh both are animation technically XD
Alice madness returns is my favourite game (/gen) and it’s an absolute masterpiece with the way it plays with the concept of trauma and a nightmare/dream world. I would have loved to have seen how the 3rd came was before it was cancelled
Disturbing imagery can often fly under a family friendly rating, because there's so much in this world that can be deeply unsettling, without ever invoking the use of blood, gore, violence, or other things we typically look for when deciding on a rating for something.
The elevator scene is Alice descending through her subconscious- I suppose the original rabbit hole scene was, too, but this struck me particularly because the elevator is a visualization technique often used in self- hypnosis.
Quite apart from the taxidermy animals, this version of Alice's subconscious preoccupation with death and violence goes deep. Eggs hatch skulls, skipping life entirely. Food that is supposed to be sweet and nourishing has been filled with sharp tacks. The smaller details really fill out the world more completely than the more obvious ones.
I didn’t know this many versions of Alice existed.💀
Me too
Me neither
similar to pinocchio, little mermaid, cinderella, and so on; old stories turned public property, so anyone could make movies out of them
@@Konani_the_unicorn_queen The Jungle Book and Tarzan had films that weren't made by Disney too
I recall watching one Alice story, but she's an adult and in a love triangle between the Mad Hatter and the Prince(Queen's son). Though my memory of it is foggy.
If you want another adaptation of Alice, I recommend the Ametican McGee games
True that yo! Shame we'll never get an ending though...
We'll all have to come up with our own endings.
I still remember the horrific takes on some of the characters including The Duchess becoming some kind of Cannibal who feeds on the flesh of Mad women the Mad Hatter became some kind of organic mechanical abomination who even used his two dearest friends the March Hare and Dormouse as guinea pigs and of course the queen of hearts became some kind of demon like creature
Good game series though. Would be unreal in VR.
@@mjh8216why though? Both of these games are finished and have some of ending. Do we really need Alice's story to be dragged out till she dies?
My dad gave me this film on VHS when I was a kid and I watched it all the time, even though I found parts of it pretty scary. This movie is probably why I became so interested in taxidermy and animal bones.
It’s not a movie or show, but there’s a creepy game called American McGee’s Alice, and it’s sequel Alice: Madness Returns. It plays more like an action game, but embraces the creepy and darker undertones of the story
That's one of the best games ever honestly
I LOVE THOSE GAMES!!!! The second one is my favorite
@@viktoriaf.1191 yeah, Madness Returns looks really fun
@@viktoriaf.1191i love the atmosphere of the first one a bit more, its darker and depressing. Just bought the second game on steam so i’ll replay that one too.
I knew that the 1933 version of Alice in Wonderland was scary I didn't know that there was a version that was even MORE terrifying
The Wonderland which also mixed with nightmare
If you actually watch Svankmeyer's Alice, the most terrifying thing that can ever happen to you afterwards is just to hear the phrase "...said Alice!" one more goddamn time!!!
The next one you HAVE to walk about is the 1999 Hallmark one. That one also has terrifying Jim Henson Creature Shop effects, and long awkward yet unsettling scenes that made me feel uncomfortable as a kid. Also, Whoopi Goldberg is the Cheshire Cat.
I remember that one! I watched it with a friend when I was 7 or 8, and it creeped me out!
That one had quite the line-up, including Christopher Lloyd, Ben Kingsley and Peter Ustinov.
Really strange to me that people found it creepy I find it to be very charming, but I guess there are people who get distress from actors in bizarre theater makeup sometimes, for me I think it does not hold a candle to the Jan Svanmajer one demonstrated here in terms of creepy factor. But I do love how faithful to the book that version tries to be while also adding a bit of a moral about Alice having faith in herself when she has to sing in front of her guests toward the end.
I think the fact that this one uses real taxidermied animals as stop motion puppets makes this all the more unsettling yet interesting
There is no way the creator didn't want to scar some kids with this absolute nightmare fuel.
As a bit of a horror fan I enjoy it but man, this is an intense film considering it wasn't meant to be in the horror genre, as far as we know at least
Tbh this is very normal way of making a movie for Jan švankmajer and yes Its one of the more creepy ones but Its not scaring at all to us czechs Its acceptable
@@tekken.universal2343 That's so great to know, thanks for sharing your experience with it! It's so interesting how one thing can be viewed so differently depending where you are in the world.
One thing I can definitely say about this film that I do think most will feel similarly on is how well done it it, truly a film people worked very hard on and is deserving of recognition
@@tekken.universal2343 I guess us Czechs are just built different lmao
fr we need to get our rating system fixed
As a horror fan myself I can't help but freaking shiver every time I take a look at this damn rabbit, it's THAT creepy for me.
I'm glad that you reviewed a film from Czech Republic. In our neighbor country they have alot of other animated projects with some dark elements and some are even more for adults like Malá z rybárny( darker reteling of The Little Mermaid).
I can second this. Czechs have plenty of these films. He already reviewed two by Jiří Barta. (Krysař and Na Půdě)
Honestly if you went through Jan Švankmajer's filmography you could probably make a few more videos focusing on a few of the animated shorts he's made over the years. They are just as surreal as his Alice movie, if not more.
You know, when you said Alice was controlling the action, my immediate thought was that she's _literally_ controlling it - she's some sort of creepy Twilight Zone type psychic girl and is bringing these dead animal bits to life with her mental powers. I fear for her sister.
All the versions of Alice in wonderland really are weird. My favorite has to be the game one Alice madness returns.
The Alice games are a treat. They're the best.
Honestly i prefer the original game over the sequel, but the sequel does have one of my favourite stories in gaming. Though it's a much better experience if you've played the earlier game
@@Drengade true, honestly I would not mind a horror movie of Alice madness return with original and sequel.
Another scary/dark adaptation of the Alice story?? Let’s go!
Disney's Alice is what you watch when you want a good trip. Jan's Alice is what you watch when you just want a trip and don't mind it going bad.
The white rabbit hopping onto the desk with the skyline is really uncanny
This was my absolute favorite movie when I was a kid! There was a period of time when I was like 6-7 when I'd watch it every single day for weeks. I never found it scary, just fascinating, we had it on VHS and I wore that tape *out* haha
Alice in Wonderland 1988: Charming.
Alice in 1988: Frightening.
Charming, Frightening, charming, frightening
Considering the original book is public domain, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a Horror film that tried to be a complete body horror massacre
When I was in high school, a friend of a friend was in a band, and I went to a show of theirs once - I think it was in the basement of a church or something? Weird place to have a concert for a bunch of weird goth-adjacent teenagers. And they had clips from this film looping on a projector in the background of the music while we were all mostly sitting on the weird nubby carpeted church basement floor. It was one of the trippiest experiences that has stuck with me forever. That scene with the rat pounding stakes into Alice's skull in particular.
There was a BBC version that I remember watching once. It featured actual live action humans dressed as the animals. It's got a very cheap BBC TV in the 80s vibe to it but I found it quite charming.
The obsession with mouth extreme close-ups and creepy stop motion reminded me of another film when I saw this, and it turned out to be the same guy - Little Otik. Another interesting take on an old story.
I love this version of Alice. So, wonderfully twisted. The close ups of her saying "said the so-n-so" between every line of dialog did become a little much, though.
My favourite version of Alice is the Soviet Union's cartoon adaptation from the 80s. There are two mini-series about Wonderland and about the world in the mirror. This cartoon is surreal and captures the books' atmosphere quite well, in my opinion. I especially like "Through the looking glass" (White Knight's song is very beautiful and sad, it's better than the silly song from the book).
I highly recommend watching it with subtitles because voiceacting in these cartoons is amazing (I think I saw version with subtitles on UA-cam). In my opinion it's one of the best adaptations of stories about Alice (and also it's unlikely to give kids nightmares, a lot of people love this cartoon since childhood. But I have to admit, the visuals are darker than Disney's). The original titles of these cartoons are Алиса в стране чудес (1981) and Алиса в зазеркалье (1982)
Oh, and also, some uploads on UA-cam tend to cut out the endings songs that play in the end of each episode. That's sad, really, because they are very good. The song that plays during the credits of Through the Looking Glass is called Вот вы говорите. Very beautiful and melancholic, just like the cartoon itself.
I agree, that's my favourite thing too.
Thank you for taking a look at this masterpiece.
I never thought people would actually talk about this underrated film in this day and age.
This particular movie and the more famous Disney animated classic are my favorite takes on the story.
Damn Alice in wonderland franchise sure surprises me a lot
Jan Švankmajer is a brilliant animator. I feel like him and Henry Selik understand the core of what makes stop-motion animation such a wonderful medium. If you watch Švankmajer's other work, you'll see a lot of objects given animated life rather than just stop motion with designed puppets like other films in the genre. Stop-motion is a style that feels more real, you can visially touch the objects and know how they're meant to feel, because they are real objects moving, not drawings or 3D rendered designs. Your observation with the movie seeming to be Alice playing with the items in the attic as opposed to being all a dream affirms this notion. And probably why stop-motion is often used in kids media, to give it a simlar feel to a child playing with toys. Unfortunately it's that realness which often makes the medium so terrifying and uncanny.
One comment from Henry Selik I remember reading said something along the lines of how he regrets the fluidity in the animation in his film "Coraline", because it was so smooth people mistook it for CGI. He said he wished it had more imperfections that removed the illusion, as to him comparing his animation to CGI is an insult to the stop-motion. His reaction to that comparison I think shows how deeply important it is to him and Švankmajer to show the animated characters as physical objects given life.
alice in wonderland was such a fever dream
It might seem like a small thing to focus on, but I appreciate that you actually do understand how Slavic names are pronounced. I'm used of people saying "I will completely butcher this name" and then not even attempt to pronounce it in it's native language, but it's very clear that you made an effort and it shows. Your pronounciation was not perfect, but close! Thank you for that (:
Here before it blows up Steve
My uncle is called Steve and I've spent more time watching you than I have hanging out with him
My uncle is called matthew and i can relate
I am an uncle and i don't spend time with my nephew at all
Whenever I see Steve's released a video, I stop what I'm doing and go to watch. Keep doing what you're doing Steve.
Aaww yeeeah, I cought a glimpse of this movie once at midnight in the transformation part and I loved it since then.
The stop motion is so freaky and crunchy
Ain't no way a Czech film got featured. I am so proud
You shouldn’t be.
I think he already did toys in the attic, goat story, and piped piper by jiri
Hey Steve. I've been wanting to recommend some films for you to check out, I don't know how often you take requests from comments, but I thought it was worth a shot.
The first one I'd recommend is The Little Prince, it's a french film based off of the novel of the same name. It has a lot of mature themes that adults would relate to more than The young target audience the film is aiming for. Plus it has scenes of stop motion that are absolutely breathtaking. Along with some darker moments, including a character's death. I think it's right up your alley.
Second recommendation is The Prince of Egypt. It's an early DreamWorks film that in my opinion is really underrated. The film recently gained some popularity among the movie reviewer community, but I think most people shy away from it because it's based off of a Bible story. But DreamWorks doesn't push a narrative in your face, they simply tell the story as is. The film does not shy away from dark and scary imagery, including a scene depicting the mass murder of Hebrew slaves children. I think you would enjoy this film. The animation is fantastic and the music is just as good. Thanks for reading! I hope you take my recommendations into consideration!
Oh my gosh, I adore The Little Prince movie! I genuinely think it's an amazing adaptation of the book- especially in its spirit. Like you said, the book is also strangely grown up despite being a children's book, and I agree that there are moments that are absolutely beautiful- both with the stop motion and the CGI
the Little Prince novel always has a special place in my hearth and I'm so glad that the movie did justice to it while managing to tell it's own story.
Oh lovely, was quite anticipating a review of this one after having seen the last.
I love the SyFy channel’s take on Alice in Wonderland. Every so often I rewatch “Alice” and enjoy it every time, especially their take on the Mad Hatter, White Rabbit, and the tea party.
This is probably my biggest inspiration as a stop motion artist. It's so creepy and unique it's hard not to love
I've recommended this film from the very first time you did a Czech stop motion review and I'm glad to see you got around to it.
Oh man! I’m so happy you did this video! I still have a place in my heart for this movie, as a kid and now.
I still remember finding this on Netflix (back when it was on the Wii) I thought it was weirdly creepy but somewhat beautiful and fascinating.
Nowadays, I love it when I can find stuff that fills in the craving I have for stories, visuals, or feelings as this movie gives.
I saw this film as a child and it disturbed me and my dreams for years. Only after internet came, I could find its name and maker and I was able to buy the DVD from a Korean webstore. Still one of the best movies I know!
This is weird to say, but I feel like you and @Saberspark will one day make a collab because of how similar your reviews are.
It’s very loosely an Alice story but Alice in Borderland (made by the same person who made the current Zom 100 anime) is an interesting premise basically taking a survival game approach and naming the characters off of Alice terminology. It kinda got overshadowed by Squid Game but I still enjoyed it. There was a short OVA of it but it only covers the first few episodes but the manga had a sequel.
I’m a huuuuuuuge AiW fan, and this is one of my favourite versions of the story.
So creative.
Watching this late at night did feel like a dream. It was hypnotising... and the story really makes sense if you consider dream logic. Nothing is really conclusive or narrative like in a dream.
YES, Thank you so much for covering this! I was hoping you'd eventually get to it! Was great to hear your take on it :)
I discovered this years ago from Brows Held High and the white rabbit has always been a constant night terror I had through out high school. That moment where he just looks straight into the camera and clicks his teeth together has stayed with me for years.
my grandparents were in the museum where the props were on displayed. I remember seeing the weird frog and the queen card from a framed picture in the dining room. I always wondered why they looked so odd and creepy looking. now I know hehe.
Every time Steve makes a review on a czech movie, it warms my heart cus I get to see part of my culture (sometimes even childhood) represented in videos from one of my favourite youtubers
been waiting for you to stumble on this. I had this on a vhs in the late 90's
I was wondering when you were gonna cover this film! Honestly not the most nightmare inducing thing that Svankmajer has made, but one of my personal favorites. It's a type of uncanny horror that I don't think there's enough of. As you mention, there's almost no music and dialogue, with only artificial creaks and groans and clinking of glass for much of the film. At the start, you have no idea how much you'll wish for the sound of flowing water present there, because it's never heard from again. Even in the "down the rabbithole" sequence that's clearly shot outside, there's a complete absence of the sound of wind or birds or any natural ambient sounds. It's just footsteps and the creaks of the desk that serves as a rabbithole. It's kinda funny too, a lot of the animals are "real", but only in that they are very much real hides or bones or cow's tongues. All the natural life has been taken from them and they're being reanimated in a twisted, uncanny way. The horror of the utterly unnatural.
To say nothing of feeling like you're going to get tetanus just looking at some of the sets. Alice gets poked by a nail at one point, and by God, you really feel that.
It also occurs to me watching this that the film definitely falls into the category of liminality, as the kids are so fond of these days. The peeling, stained, undecorated walls, the lack of coherent furnishings, the seeming decayed state of the sets, they all feel unwelcoming. Somewhere you might vaguely remember being unsettled by as a child, an attic filled with dusty taxidermy and antique dolls. I never had such an attic myself, but I certainly remember being at many funky little museums that this film reminds me of. Neglected specimens in jars and yellowed animal hides, that kind of thing. It's all very visceral to the point where you might get a sense of the textures of objects. Svankmajer certainly emphasizes in talking about his work the importance of feeling the props with his owns hands, and that comes through with Alice.
Maybe the moral of the story is that you should appreciate the simple natural beauty of just stepping outside. And maybe don't play with taxidermy or around rusty nails. And maybe make sure your kid isn't neglected to the point of developing sociopathic tendencies.
About time you reviewed this
I remember renting this when I was about 18 at this really cool underground (figuratively and literally) video store. I picked it up in the "Strange and Unusual" aisle and had my eyes opened to the wide and wonderful world of Czech animation.
I swear your humorous timing gets better with every video. That "ahahaha... no." right at the start was just lovely.
Alice in wonderland? More like Alice in horror land
I remember tracking this movie down online in the early days of video streaming after I read about it in a magazine. This movie kinda gave me similar vibes to Phil Tippett's stop motion nightmare film "Mad God", though it isn't nearly as nightmarishly grotesque.
It's definitely more uncanny, however.
So glad you got to this one, I saw this movie in my childhood and it's one of the main reasons that stop-motion felt unsettling to me for a long time!
Oohh nice one Steve! 😃 I had a huge incline that you would review this version of Alice. Hats off to you mate! I'm going to enjoy watching this.
Omg. You took my suggestion! Thank you! This might be a Mandela Effect situation but I swear to God I saw this MUCH earlier than 1988...more like early 80s or late 70s. I have to think maybe it came out earlier but only won the award in 1988, maybe after having been misplaced in a serial killer's basement for the intervening years
It's awkward when the favorite movie you watch to go to sleep is being reviewed for how creepy it is. This is one of my favorite movies
0:43 thanks for taking my request to wtch that short. Pretty good video though I was expecting a more longer analysis
Hey have you ever watched Hoodwinked!
This film is a masterpiece
Dear Steve,
Always good to see a review from you. They make my day and I enjoy listening them whilst doing homework and my daily chores.
Anyway if you haven't already please look into "In this corner of the world"
It's a movie about a young lady living near Hiroshima in japan and gets pretty brutal.
Thanks again for the movie review!
-Rosemary
I love your videos, thanks to you I discovered a lot of incredible movies ! I remember watching all of your videos back to back last year
This has to be the same director that did Toys in the Attic. That stop motion style is Unmistakable.
I'm a czechian, if you can say it that way, and i mainly saw old czech pre communistic fall of 1989 to be whimsical and charming. To prohaps hide how drearie it was.
But now knowing that this piece of cinema exists, it has made me relize there was a underground scene of this kind of media that never, to this day, hasn't been talked about at all. It's strange to relize it....
this director is the same guy that did the short "Food" (1993) you've probably seen memes of it but all of his work is very surreal and seems to have a deeper meaning to most of it. highly recommend.
I seen a recommendation for this on your previous Alice video and found it on YT for free. I had a blast watching it, I love creepy stuff. Especially the old school movies like this
1:05 Close! It's "SVAHNK-mayer". As a Czech, he's a bit of a hometown hero to us. 💜
I watched this as a child, but kind of forgot about it. I could only remember bits of it & ended up thinking I must have dreamt the bits I remembered. It wasn't until a couple of years ago I stumbled across it........ This movie wasn't a fever dream after all.
We all fell down the rabbit hole with this one.
The Aliceverse is truly mesmerizing
I remember watching a cartoon version which might have been by Hanna-Barbera. It was modified slightly with the caterpillar being played by Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble as well as the Humpty Dumpty being put in jail because he’s a ‘bad egg’ 😏
This was nightmarish, but also very addicting to watch for the sound design and stopmotion.
Hey I know this isn't really the kinda thing you would normally review but I really wanna see you talk about killer klowns from outer space. I feel like the wacky nature and sometimes horrific moments could be a slight fit for your channel. But anyway great video dude keep it up ❤️🖤❤️
0:43 Hey, I recognize that animation!
I forgot the name of it, but it was a really trippy animation from the mid-80s.
It's "Malice in wonderland", a animated short from 1982, directed and animated entirely by Vince Collins. A very surreal and psychedelic animation with very bizarre/disturbing imagery. I personally love how fluid the animation and transitions are.
I honestly thought you were about to start talking about the TV miniseries that also aired in the 80s, since that one had some genuinely terrifying moments...particularly the times when the Jabberwock showed up out of nowhere to terrorize Alice. Then I actually did some looking, and found out it was released in 1985, not 1988. I'm wondering if it didn't air on TV again after the first time, considering that while I remember watching it and being scared half to death by the Jabberwock (which was always accompanied by all the lights in the scene going out, and a whole host of other spooky effects), I don't recall being 4 when I saw it, and I don't remember watching it on VHS.
This version appears to be at once nightmare fuel unleaded _and_ just the sort of thing that would both fascinate and mildly horrify me now, but would probably have had me sleeping with the lights on as a kid. Particularly the deranged looking White Rabbit, and the sock-puppet Caterpillar with its creepy denture-teeth. Interesting to see in passing, but wow, this is weird even by my standards.
Seeing all the comments, we should petition Steve to review the story of American McGee's Alice in Wonderland series. Sure it's a game series, but still holds a core narrative to gawk at.
I would love to see him review that game as well. It's more like a Tim Burton Alice in wonderland than the actual Tim Burton's Alice in wonderland...
@@teddybearkiller5271 Couldn't have said it better!
OMG! I'm SO HAPPY you finally doing this movie! It's my favorite visual version of Alice! Actually nevermind it's my favorite movie ever. Nice!
Nevermind. I didn't like the "joke" about dahmer and generally forcing the "horror" aspect to it way too much.
these recent videos have reminded me of an alice in wonderland film i used to watch. it was the made for TV version from 1999. apparently to this day it's the last film to adapt the original books.
i watched the disney version on vhs a lot more but this one holds a really... weird place in the back of my mind.
it's not the creepiest thing out there but it's weird, as most alice films tend to be, and it's extremely charming.
not to mention for a made for TV production it's really high quality, like... they got jim henson's creature shop in for the practical effects and puppets, and MULTIPLE well known actors like Whoopi Goldberg, Christopher Lloyd, and Gene Wilder.
Kids are perfectly capable of play acting creepy or disturbing things. I did
Hello, as someone from Czech republic ........ yeah, we have quite a lot of unsettling child movies/fairytales. But over the years we began making less scary ones. Even though I was born in 2004 they still replayed some of these scary films on TV and I was fucking disgusted and scared of some as a child.
You should try Fimfárum, its a collection of fairytales and it is kind of weird and unsettling. It is stop motion as well. There are demons, skeletons, ..... even some of the humans look ........ well unsettling. There is also sex, boobs, death and of course beer. I used to watch it as a kid and i even have it on DVD. My country is weird I know xD
Why tho most of them are creepy lookimg but not really scary or disgusting
Oh, I'm SO happy you decided to, ahem, Czech this version out.
You just unlocked such a deeply buried childhood memory, I don’t remember being scared of it, more like eerily entranced
7:00 Neco z Alenky's Alice doesn't strike me as the child version of a serial killer. She seems like a normal kid with an imagination unfettered by fears and stigmas that keep the average adult from imagining such things. As adults, we lose our innocence, so we police our own imaginations, shying away from anything too morbid, gross, grim, etc.
Alice, on the other hand, has probably never seen an animal or person die, or simply hasn't reached the phase of childhood development where she comprehends the full impact of death, so she sees nothing weird about playing with old taxidermy and cutting the heads off her dolls. This is basically what I remember my siblings and my self all doing at some point when we were kids.
I remember tearing apart baby dolls and trying to fix them later by stuffing them with toilet paper, pulling the heads off of Barbies and roleplaying little executions, catching geckos and playing with them while they tried to bite my fingers, and writing stories and making drawings that, in retrospect, would probably make a parent today freak out a little. We raised our own chickens for meat and eggs, and when it was time to peel the feet (IDK why, my mother never explained it, it's just what she learned to do on her grandmother's farm, so we did it too), my sister and I would actually play with them by pulling the tendons poking out at the end of the leg and making the feet grab at each other.
And yet, when I did accidentally kill a gecko by playing too roughly, I stole a ring box from my parents' bedroom and used it as a makeshift coffin to bury the little guy. It's probably still there in the dirt under my parents' rosebud tree, waiting for some confused landscaper or repair guy to find, LOL. I also felt bad every time I caused a gecko to lose its tail, too, even though I knew it would grow back.
I grew up to be a very non-violent adult with a passion for animal healthcare, and would sooner put myself in harm's way than harm another person. I can't even bring myself to humiliate those who cause me stress or harm; I just remove myself from their company and move on with my life. I still have a morbid imagination, but as an adult, I now have to consciously fight those morality blinders if I want to write or draw a horror-inspired piece. And I haven't committed a single homicide! :D
Ok the playing with the geckos while they try to bite your fingers is actually really cute.
@@Madmonkeman Look up the Mediterranean house gecko; they were my favorites and were everywhere where I grew up. Those were the ones I would catch, and when I wasn't trying to catch them, I was watching them snipe bugs on the porch and all the window screens at night.
@@StargazerSkyscraper They look cool
I took animation classes as a kid and my teacher really liked Jan Svankmajer because he is a very skilled animator and liked to show us his stuff so this is the version of Alice in Wonderland I grew up with. Needless to say I had some restless nights as a kid. 9/10 would rewatch
I remember watching this movie years ago. I'd convinced myself I'd imagined it. It played out like some fever dream that left me nauseous and viscerally uncomfortable in a very distinct way. No other movie has ever had this effect on me.
If you watched the movie three prince's you would know how does a real fever dream look like especially wit that ear ravaging noise when it gets to the mines/mountains
Saw this film in my early teenage years. Has the dubious honour of being the first film that made me think "what the fuck did i just watch?"
Stop motion is one of the most creative types of animation, and also the most nightmarish
He should review more adaptions of these fairy tale/old stories, i feel that's another good niche that fits with the channels creepy vibe.
I remember this being on Netflix for a short spell when I was five. I didn’t understand a single bit of it, and I remember being mildly mortified.
This is my favorite Alice in Wonderland bar-none, I watched your 1933 review just the other day and was thinking, you know he should cover this one.
Yay, finally! One of the weirdest versions I’ve seen of this subject! Been recommending this version for years now, so thank you for finally during it :-)
If you're interested, the director of this movie has plenty of shorts here on UA-cam. They're very similar in tone and style to this movie. I definitely recommend "The Last Trick" and "Dimensions of Dialogue".
It's nice that the creepier themes were supposed to be the director's concept of Alice's dream.
Yay!! Thanks for making this one, it sure was crazy