Steve Reviews: Alice in Wonderland (1933)

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  • Опубліковано 5 сер 2023
  • Something a bit different this time round, as although not an animated piece, Alice in Wonderland 1933 holds so many dark and just pure nightmare fuel moments, that I just had to talk about it. Plus there are some interesting behind the scenes stories that really make this film interesting to talk about. So please enjoy!
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  • @am2382
    @am2382 9 місяців тому +2624

    Any movies or shows that's unintentionally creepy are scarier than some horror themed ones.

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 9 місяців тому +28

      My farts are better than Steve's farts.

    • @rainalystre1877
      @rainalystre1877 9 місяців тому +97

      I believe a lot of it comes with the fact that it isn’t labeled as horror. If we go into a movie, we expect the scares which unironically makes it less scary in comparison. In other movies or games where we don’t associate initially with horror- elements of horror popping up catches us more off guard. Like how Minecraft scares you with its caves- Minecraft doesn’t come off as horror, so when you go into the caves and hear the sounds, it comes off as more shocking- it grabs you more because you weren’t anticipating it.
      Anyways. Thanks for reading my word spiel. Have a good day!

    • @maro6160
      @maro6160 9 місяців тому

      ​@@p-__bro its not djlovesturbo go away

    • @avosmash2121
      @avosmash2121 9 місяців тому +32

      Indeed! Especially when it's things geared towards small kids and it was not only not labeled horror but it was never even MEANT to stylistically or narratively be moments of horror by the creators, yet somehow or other either with or without context some certain things give everyone the heebyjeebies.

    • @Sharknerd04
      @Sharknerd04 9 місяців тому +7

      Theres also Monster House.

  • @PetiteChevalAmie
    @PetiteChevalAmie 9 місяців тому +1244

    The turtle calling Alice a bitch part had me HOWLING 😂

  • @yourroyalchungusness
    @yourroyalchungusness 9 місяців тому +537

    That tossing the baby part made me have an urge to make "only 1930's kids can understand" joke

    • @Rickettson
      @Rickettson 9 місяців тому +19

      Dance magic Dance.

    • @rosykindbunny1313
      @rosykindbunny1313 9 місяців тому +17

      ​@@RickettsonAt least in that one Labyrinth scene they used a doll when they were tossing Toby

    • @jeans.5252
      @jeans.5252 9 місяців тому +14

      This baby scene also horrified me, as well as the horrible Duchess and her song. Thanks for telling us that it was not a baby!

    • @slowerthansound
      @slowerthansound 9 місяців тому +4

      The polo with flamingo's and gerbil's got me!

    • @stillhere1425
      @stillhere1425 9 місяців тому +2

      Billy Barty made a pretty cute baby. Usually when they used little people for children, they were post-adolescents with grotesquely mature features. Billy looks like a baby in this Wonderland really might. And I kind of like Alice-her actress goes through a lot of physical stuff without anything to do except react to horrible animatronic characters, but she doesn’t look bored. I don’t think the producers of this film put enough money into it. They shouldn’t have assumed that child audiences would just be delighted by the weirdness and clever, quick Lewis Carrol dialogue would captivated them, the way reading the books might. They

  • @bridgetmadden5716
    @bridgetmadden5716 8 місяців тому +106

    Fun fact about the Mock Turtle: "mock turtle" was a soup that was supposed to taste like turtle soup but in reality was made with cow heads, which is why the mock turtle hear looks like it had a cow head

  • @dovahkiin6488
    @dovahkiin6488 9 місяців тому +1072

    Fun fact: I've recently learned that they originally were gonna put in the Eyepot in the Disney animation. Though they deemed it too creepy for kids so they scrapped it.

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 9 місяців тому +14

      My farts are better than Steve's farts.

    • @peety0792
      @peety0792 9 місяців тому +63

      Whelp, just in case the Disney animation didn't have enough lost characters I had to find out about another one 💀

    • @crushedcan5378
      @crushedcan5378 9 місяців тому +33

      @@p-__ no not really his farts have a better consistency to them

    • @uggranpops8442
      @uggranpops8442 9 місяців тому +25

      Eyepot?

    • @dory_the_dork
      @dory_the_dork 9 місяців тому +32

      That made an appearance in Alice the Madness Returns video game.

  • @pimpin8216
    @pimpin8216 9 місяців тому +1015

    Little did they realize this movie would be responsible for 50 percent of the creepy pasta thumbnails for years to come 🤣

  • @LordCrate-du8zm
    @LordCrate-du8zm 9 місяців тому +492

    Modern horror could never compare to some guys in the 1930's *accidentally* creating something THIS TERRIFYING.

  • @jacobhake342
    @jacobhake342 9 місяців тому +220

    To be fair, this is the single most faithful adaptation to the book I've ever seen.

    • @13thcentury
      @13thcentury 9 місяців тому +13

      Especially the Hatter.

    • @sugarpea4484
      @sugarpea4484 9 місяців тому +23

      I was thinking the same thing. Even listening to him describe that watching the movie is like jumping from scene to scene without a real plot. That's how I felt reading the book

    • @michaelarrowood4315
      @michaelarrowood4315 8 місяців тому +14

      Exactly. It wasn't like the books had any plot or coherence. This is a pretty faithful adaptation for sure!

    • @leemargalit1453
      @leemargalit1453 6 місяців тому +9

      I mean, it was a literal dream. It's a little girl's dream. Dreams usually aren't very linear or logical. I think the less coherent the Alice adaptation, the better.

    • @paradiselost9946
      @paradiselost9946 5 місяців тому +1

      i love it. every part. my only lament through all the years is it was only b&w.
      always been the one i use as the base, the reference. still my favourite.
      oh. yeah. this is the one i saw first and the one im most familiar with...

  • @LORDOFDORKNESS42
    @LORDOFDORKNESS42 9 місяців тому +739

    You should also check out the Jan Svankmajer version from 1988. 'Alice.'
    Some of the most disturbing and yet best made stop motion puppetry I've ever seen. Like, The Caterpillar alone is... a trip and a half. And its all narrated by Alice as if she's reading the book.

    • @NextMiyazaki
      @NextMiyazaki 9 місяців тому +28

      I watched it, that….definitely was not what I was expecting the caterpillar to look like 😂

    • @LORDOFDORKNESS42
      @LORDOFDORKNESS42 9 місяців тому +38

      @@NextMiyazaki The complete lack of background music was something I found myself genuinely intrigued by.
      Very odd choice, but it gives the entire THING happening at you this... distressingly real quality to it. Like you're watching Alice's fever dream through a magic window as it happens.

    • @saku577
      @saku577 9 місяців тому +19

      On that note, Svankmaier's "Jabberwocky" is also an absolutely beautiful nightmare.

    • @LORDOFDORKNESS42
      @LORDOFDORKNESS42 9 місяців тому +4

      @@saku577 Haven't seen that one. Thanks for the recommendation!

    • @bellac2924
      @bellac2924 9 місяців тому +10

      Yeh! I actually though that was the Alice film he was gonna talk in this video, he should definitely see the 1988 one!

  • @ryanleikness3414
    @ryanleikness3414 9 місяців тому +280

    Fun fact: speaking of 1939, Disney was attempting to make Alice in Wonderland, but Walt Disney scrapped it until 1951 due to how disturbing the characters were designed, including how the ending sequence of Alice waking up after the Queen drops a guillotine device on her.
    Plus the Chesire Cat is quite disturbing.

    • @Samwise_Ass
      @Samwise_Ass 9 місяців тому +4

      You're right, I just looked up what he liked, Jesus

    • @JesterOfLemmings
      @JesterOfLemmings 6 місяців тому +2

      Have a link to some'a this?

  • @eggalytheegg5567
    @eggalytheegg5567 9 місяців тому +37

    the funniest thing about it is everything that was pointed out was directly from the book. i saw the film and it was almost exactly the book. even the creepy costumes just seemed inspired by the original illustrations.

  • @blue_sea404
    @blue_sea404 9 місяців тому +110

    I actually appreciate how almost all the characters in the movie are actual characters in the books. Like the white knight, the red and white queens, the mock turtle, the lady with the crying baby, humpty dumpty, even the story of the little oysters were in the books. As creepy as they may be, they were real.

  • @insufferableanarchist
    @insufferableanarchist 9 місяців тому +464

    Oh god, i remember finding this when i was younger and absolutely fell in love with it because the characters matched exactly what i imagined when i read the original untranslated book

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 9 місяців тому +2

      My farts are better than Steve's farts.

    • @TIGERLOVER1
      @TIGERLOVER1 9 місяців тому +12

      ​@@p-__ ...Uh...Okay?

    • @juliamavroidi8601
      @juliamavroidi8601 9 місяців тому +27

      They're pretty much exact replikas of the Tenniel illustrations

    • @ArtisticAspie962
      @ArtisticAspie962 9 місяців тому +10

      @@p-__
      Prove it, spammer! >:)

    • @darius8939
      @darius8939 9 місяців тому +6

      Well they are looking very similar to the art of the book who looks really creepy a lot of the time

  • @SammyPfoten95
    @SammyPfoten95 9 місяців тому +384

    You can clearly see the amount of inspiration Walt Disney took from this movie for the character designs

    • @geoffreyrichards6079
      @geoffreyrichards6079 9 місяців тому +86

      To be fair, they’re both heavily based on the original book illustrations by John Tenniel.

    • @Nick-ty9us
      @Nick-ty9us 9 місяців тому +23

      Disney made the characters cuter to make them less creepy

    • @tamarrajames3590
      @tamarrajames3590 8 місяців тому +3

      @@geoffreyrichards6079The 1931 version adhered slavishly to the Tenniel illustrations, pretty amazing in fact…especially the lobsters.🖤🇨🇦

    • @Nick-ty9us
      @Nick-ty9us 3 місяці тому +2

      Although Disney made the characters have more of a cute design

  • @stackflow343
    @stackflow343 9 місяців тому +60

    I love the SFX of older films like this. They were extremely limited so the creativity even if disturbing is off the charts

  • @vincentoconnor5640
    @vincentoconnor5640 9 місяців тому +47

    If you've read the original illustrated Alice in wonderland book, the charcter designs from this movie are actually really similar to the illustrations in the book.

  • @manteiga6522
    @manteiga6522 9 місяців тому +255

    Being able to see the actor's real mouth inside of Humpty Dumpty has the same vibes as seeing the endoskeleton teeth from the animatronics' mouths in FNAF, which only makes the scene even more terrifying

    • @Alondro77
      @Alondro77 9 місяців тому +4

      True Internet lies: Tite Kubo was inspired to make Hollows with the double mouths after watching the scene with Humpty.

    • @redjirachi1
      @redjirachi1 9 місяців тому +8

      "Was that the bite of '27?!"

    • @syndrette
      @syndrette 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@redjirachi1good heavens, was that the chomp of 1927

    • @tamarrajames3590
      @tamarrajames3590 8 місяців тому +1

      The visible mouth inside the pudding was more jarring than Humpty Dumpty as far as I’m concerned. It was more clearly defined and constant, like the pudding ate someone.🖤🇨🇦

    • @jordantatata155
      @jordantatata155 6 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂 fnaf is the cheapest immature laziest excuse for horror ive seen 😂😂 if that scares ya good luck in life 😂😂😂

  • @poweroffriendship2.0
    @poweroffriendship2.0 9 місяців тому +305

    Humpty Dumpty in Alice in Wonderland 1933 is unnerving with that hollow eyes, which made the Kinder Joy's Humpty Dumpty looked like Sesame Street.
    Also, there's a Czech adaptation of Alice in Wonderland, which not only reached into the uncanny valley, but it's also impressive for its stop-motion animation.

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 9 місяців тому +1

      My farts are better than Steve's farts.

    • @ashessakura7518
      @ashessakura7518 9 місяців тому +8

      Oh god it does looks like the Kinder Joy egg!

    • @alecfoisy58
      @alecfoisy58 9 місяців тому +6

      Kinder. Yebol shakey. Me unscrabbly. Choco doobie!

    • @ricardodavis4730
      @ricardodavis4730 9 місяців тому +7

      Jan Svankmajer's Alice. 1985.
      Steve should cover that one too!

    • @SaintCharlos
      @SaintCharlos 9 місяців тому +3

      @@ricardodavis4730 There are three adaptations of Alice in Wonderland which are my favorite ones:
      Malice in Wonderland (1983 short)
      Jan Svanmajer's Alice (1988)
      American McGee's Alice duology (2000 and 2011)

  • @christianmarshal6117
    @christianmarshal6117 9 місяців тому +56

    I don’t know why so many people immediately assume the story is about a girl having an acid trip. People often take things to literally. It’s a story about a girl who finds herself in a whole new world, nothing like the one she’s a familiar with. People around her act so strangely and expecting different things from her then she’s used too. She goes on a journey of wonder, discovery and even self discovery-
    Caterpillar: Who are you?
    Alice: I hardly think I know sir just at present- at least I know who I was when I got up this morning, but I think I must’ve changed several times since then.
    At the end of the scene in which these words are traded, the caterpillar turns into a butterfly.
    Sometimes she notices herself growing at a startling rate outgrowing things she used to fixate on, (the little door) and yet she can also feel like she’s no more then 3 inches tall.
    Alice in Wonderland isn’t a story of a girl’s acid trip it’s an analogy for a girl transitioning from childhood into adulthood.
    ETA: Also “acid trips” are caused by LSD. LSD was first synthesized in the 1930’s. Alice in Wonderland was written 67 years, (if not more) earlier. So how could he be writing about the effects of a drug that didn’t even exist yet?

    • @Spectra651
      @Spectra651 9 місяців тому +17

      This is so true. Like I get *why* people jump to "Oh, clearly it's about a girl trippin' balls," because that's the easiest, most obvious joke to make, but it's so played out by this point and wasn't all that funny to begin with. But that's with anything weird or unusually creative, people immediately asking what the people who made it were on.
      Also, I have to ask some of these people... have you *never* had a dream before? Like ever? Our subconsciouses are wild, crazy places, and most people have weird, nonsensical dreams all the time *without* the aid of drugs, so why chalk Alice's odd experiences up to anything other than that? I mean the book outright *says* it was all her dream. It's not a *big* deal, but it is a bitt annoying when anything not horribly, boringly vanilla is immediately assumed to have been birthed through acid or some other psychedelic, as if people don't have this thing called imagination or creativity.

    • @caucasoidape8838
      @caucasoidape8838 9 місяців тому +1

      Everyone being mad, is a satire of society's bullshit.

    • @lightborn9071
      @lightborn9071 9 місяців тому +1

      Well then American Mcgee is completely twisting the story around and back.

    • @rachellee.9389
      @rachellee.9389 9 місяців тому +2

      The acid trip theory was started in 1967 by Jefferson Airplane when Grace Slick sang about it in White Rabbit. Each era has its own theory about where dreams come from.

    • @LordSenile
      @LordSenile 9 місяців тому +1

      " story about a girl who finds herself in a whole new world, nothing like the one she’s a familiar with. People around her act so strangely and expecting different things from her then she’s used too. She goes on a journey of wonder, discovery and even self discovery-"
      Which is also a very good description of an acid trip...

  • @ronaldwilliamson7963
    @ronaldwilliamson7963 9 місяців тому +28

    It's actually pretty faithful to the books. It's hard to take the illustrator's pictures and convert them to live action,

  • @martonszentkiralyi2251
    @martonszentkiralyi2251 9 місяців тому +254

    This definitely inspired American mcgee in creating his twisted version of Alice

    • @MrPwner911
      @MrPwner911 9 місяців тому +23

      I was actually to say that, especially seeing the duchess, the resemblance is pretty identical.

    • @davidstenow5055
      @davidstenow5055 9 місяців тому +24

      @@MrPwner911well, both are very much based on the original illustrations from the book, which in turn was based on the 16th century painting The Ugly Duchess.

    • @nathanblevins9870
      @nathanblevins9870 9 місяців тому

      Now that a good series then the Tim burton movie.

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite 9 місяців тому

      @@davidstenow5055: Yes. The real person's nickname was "Taschenmaul" which is German for pocket mouth (of an animal).

  • @SweetClaraBell
    @SweetClaraBell 9 місяців тому +84

    I had to pause to double check on seeing his name in the credits, turns out that terrifying Mock Turtle was a very early role for Cary Grant of all people! I know everyone has to start somewhere, but it's pretty wild that the guy who would go on to be one of the biggest leading men of his era in Hollywood did this bit of weirdness.

    • @matermacej3579
      @matermacej3579 9 місяців тому +13

      Gary Cooper was in this too!

    • @alyhoffman2643
      @alyhoffman2643 9 місяців тому +11

      @@matermacej3579 And Edward Everett Horton AKA the Narrator of Fractured Fairytales on Rocky and Bullwinkle, too! He was The Mad Hatter.

    • @thecraigster8888
      @thecraigster8888 9 місяців тому +4

      This movie was produced during the days when the Hollywood studios ran everything with an iron fist. All these actors were under contract and had little say in what roles they played. Having bigger stars along with a lot of character actors in these cameos was one of the selling points of the film. It was pretty unique hearing the voices of all those well known actors coming from those crazy costumes.

    • @grantous67
      @grantous67 9 місяців тому

      I was kinda shocked there was no mention of Cary Grant

    • @DirkGently1972
      @DirkGently1972 9 місяців тому

      Wasn’t just my imagination then!

  • @almi6666
    @almi6666 9 місяців тому +18

    It would also be worth mentioning that Humpty Dumpty was played by W.C.Fields, the White Knight by Gary Copper and the crying Mock Turtle by Cary Grant.

    • @marktracy1721
      @marktracy1721 9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah
      I saw it when I was staying home from highschool in the 70s
      Thought it was OK

  • @aquatarkus2022
    @aquatarkus2022 9 місяців тому +11

    I've always loved the '33 version. The surreal look and tone fits perfectly with the story. It is supposed to be unsettling. And Charlotte Henry was gorgeous.

  • @silashurd3597
    @silashurd3597 9 місяців тому +126

    Wow, I’ve never seen this version of the Alice and Wonderland story before. This shall be interesting.

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 9 місяців тому

      My farts are better than Steve's farts.

    • @nebraskawaters8791
      @nebraskawaters8791 9 місяців тому +3

      Yeah, its a more faithful adaptation of the original story. John Solo has a very interesting video about it.

    • @-YaeMiko-
      @-YaeMiko- 3 місяці тому

      I feel the same way
      I really love all kinds of old things like old cartoons or doll movies, I don't really think it's creepy at all, it was just different back then the costumes were more elaborate to design and certain views and ideas were just different a funny figure for children looked just different, the fashion for certain character models is still constantly changing nowadays.

  • @OlyChickenGuy
    @OlyChickenGuy 9 місяців тому +61

    I just recently read both the original Alice in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass, and this seems... disturbingly accurate...

    • @michaelszczys8316
      @michaelszczys8316 8 місяців тому +1

      Don't forget they were written by an avid hallucinogenic drug user.

    • @AoiKaboyashi
      @AoiKaboyashi 4 місяці тому

      @@michaelszczys8316 there was an account that Carroll did use drogas BUT thats not the reason every thing is all weird and such its for entertainment for ONE FRIGGEN CHILD and also the birth of literary nonsense writing...

    • @michaelszczys8316
      @michaelszczys8316 4 місяці тому

      @@AoiKaboyashi I'm sure he was already a creative wild imagination but sure some hallucinogenics helped.

  • @58christiansful
    @58christiansful 9 місяців тому +19

    The nightmarish creatures actually resemble the original John Tenniel illustrations for the Alice books.

  • @cheshirepat30
    @cheshirepat30 9 місяців тому +8

    The books were criticisms of British society at the time. She didn’t react wildly because it was a metaphor for the real world. The books were brutal: “Beat your baby when he sneezes, he only does it because he knows it teases!”

  • @devilz_teaparty775
    @devilz_teaparty775 9 місяців тому +55

    Hey steve! Heres an amazing film i highly recommend you cheak out, or even reveiw.
    The film is called "Jack and the coo coo clock heart" i wont give any big details about it, but it involves blood, death, creepy imagery, abandonment, and amazing story telling and animations.
    This film is one of my personal favorites, and i believe it could be one of yours too!

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 9 місяців тому

      My farts are better than Steve's farts.

  • @finiffox9945
    @finiffox9945 9 місяців тому +35

    Fun fact: The Fish with the speech impediment is played by Roscoe Ates, who also played in another disturbing film called freaks from 1932. It was directed by Tod Browning, the man who directed Dracula.

    • @Nick-ty9us
      @Nick-ty9us 9 місяців тому +2

      Roscoe went on to be in Maverik in the late 1950s does not stutter in that show

    • @rosykindbunny1313
      @rosykindbunny1313 9 місяців тому +1

      I honestly forgot that film existed. I only knew about it because I was reading a biography about Violet and Daisy Hilton, and apparently they were the conjoined twins in that movie. Honestly it sounds very unhinged and I kinda wanna see it.

    • @kathrynjones1367
      @kathrynjones1367 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@rosykindbunny1313I've seen it on DVD. All the performers were from real sideshows, which made the film very controversial when it was made and still is today, though for different reasons. Conjoined twins, the living skeleton (super skinny man who weighed 58 lbs), many actors with dwarfism, "pinheads" (people with microencephaly), Johnny Eck the half-boy, Prince Randian the limbless man (who can still roll and light his own cigarette), armless girl, bearded lady, and koo koo the bird girl are all characters in the movie.

    • @rosykindbunny1313
      @rosykindbunny1313 9 місяців тому +1

      @@kathrynjones1367 Wow, that still sounds like an interesting watch

    • @kathrynjones1367
      @kathrynjones1367 9 місяців тому +1

      @@rosykindbunny1313 yes, it's definitely worth watching! I was just mentioning the controversy because its a big issue for people.

  • @aidanoneill3730
    @aidanoneill3730 9 місяців тому +8

    As I was watching the credits I was able to briefly catch the names of Gary Cooper, Cary Grant, and W. C. Fields. Three of the biggest actors of that era. Pleasant surprise seeing their names on there.

  • @dysnomia-anarchia
    @dysnomia-anarchia 9 місяців тому +13

    This is actually the definitive Alice in Wonderland film.
    The Disney cartoon version is considered mostly just consumer dribble and pablum by real Alice in Wonderland fans.

  • @mikekomarinski
    @mikekomarinski 9 місяців тому +46

    This adaptation of Alice in Wonderland makes the American Mcgee games look like Spyro the Dragon by comparison.😲😱

    • @lightborn9071
      @lightborn9071 9 місяців тому +1

      I think they took inspiration from the movie😂

    • @lightborn9071
      @lightborn9071 9 місяців тому

      @@caitlyncarvalho7637 I think Alice in wonderland has always been more about the mental and psychological state of people. So I think their disproportions wouldn't bother them that much, really.
      But a more physical depiction with focus on issues as descripted by you sounds really interesting. I would certainly consider them human, because Alice is seeing them as 'human' people even if they are most unrealistic creatures.

    • @lightborn9071
      @lightborn9071 9 місяців тому

      @@caitlyncarvalho7637 What I mean is that all characters are a fraction of Alices fantasy. An experience or an idea that seems very odd for her, like a tortoise soup with beef instead. It's more about Alices mind.
      About the plot from disneys movie, that one was inspired by Amercian Mcgee in wich Alices mind (and thus Wonderland) is invaded by heavy traumata and she has to find away out of her misery and fight back. The two games have a LOT to tell and I really recommend checking them out.
      The anatomy of the movie characters wasn't that much metaphorical to me tho. The hatters eyes indicate when he goes extra insane, the queen with her hats to compensate her headsize. It doesn't really carry a deeper meaning.

  • @cheyennesmith3365
    @cheyennesmith3365 9 місяців тому +28

    There’s actually speculation that Lewis Carol created the traditional Humpty Dumpty egg design. Since it’s the earliest known illustration of the nursery rhyme known.

    • @TeruteruBozusama
      @TeruteruBozusama 9 місяців тому +4

      The first to interpret him as an egg then? As the rhyme was actually about a little boy...

    • @paulwilson6357
      @paulwilson6357 9 місяців тому

      @@TeruteruBozusama I'm pretty sure it was actually the name of a cannon which got damaged and couldn't be repaired. I know it's not an egg though.

    • @robertagregory7177
      @robertagregory7177 9 місяців тому

      I have a facsimile reprint of Alice’s Adventures Under Ground - it’s the original hand written version with Lewis Carroll’s own illustrations and it is very interesting!

  • @PixiePrincess501
    @PixiePrincess501 9 місяців тому +13

    The Mock Turtle is actually depicted very similar to the original book's illustration: A turtle with a calf's head, hooves and tail. It turns out "mock turtle soup" was an actual thing, and it was made from veal. (Also, no, there's no such thing as a "mock turtle", just the soup.) Sir John Teniel, who illustrated the books basically made a hybrid based on the soup and it's name.

  • @erikgriffith8857
    @erikgriffith8857 9 місяців тому +13

    It's this movie that actually attracted me to the books. It's "creepiness" actually captures the true essence of Carroll's works. Furthermore, Alice's stoic response to falling down the rabbit hole and encountering all other manner of weirdness is accurate to the original text. This film gets it right; it's most of the subsequent milquetoast adaptations that get it wrong.

    • @michaelszczys8316
      @michaelszczys8316 8 місяців тому

      It's ' creepy ' because in 1933 they didn't have 1970s - 1980s special effects and costumes.
      They had to start somewhere.

    • @erikgriffith8857
      @erikgriffith8857 8 місяців тому +1

      Which is why it resonates for me. (Also note that I put the word, "creepiness," in quotation marks in the original post to indicate that the term could not be taken at face value; the "creepy" effect was not intended but was what resulted nevertheless. The fact that the film's producers tried to replicate Tenniel's original surreal illustrations (even for the human characters through use of outrageous prosthetics) makes the effects more convincing than the more juvenile approaches in later adaptations. @@michaelszczys8316

  • @FFSteF09
    @FFSteF09 9 місяців тому +31

    have you seen alice 1988? that one is creepy to watch! Alice is a 1988 surrealist dark fantasy film written and directed by Jan Švankmajer. Its original Czech title is Něco z Alenky, which means "Something from Alice"

  • @Nick_C1997
    @Nick_C1997 9 місяців тому +18

    Pretty much every adaptation of Alice in Wonderland uses elements from Through the Looking Glass, the original book was actually pretty short, so it would be very difficult to make a full adaptation of just that one alone, so they always add characters and moments from the sequel to make a full length film, which tends to make it impossible to make a film sequel

  • @justincase5002
    @justincase5002 9 місяців тому +5

    Things that amaze Steve, like the white queen turning into a sheep or drowning in soup, or the mock-turtle constantly crying and a pudding insulting alice - all those scenes are presented in the book.

  • @katjack2780
    @katjack2780 9 місяців тому +7

    I enjoy this film because it is very much based on Tenniel's illustrations, which frightened me when I was a child. I finally read the books when I was a teenager and really enjoyed them. My grandmother had an oversized book based on the movie with stills from it. When I saw that, I went on a search for the 1933 movie. I've only seen snippets of the sanitized Disney films and haven't yet seen an adaptation that satisfies me.
    The books are very episodic with Alice trying to apply logic to the fantastical characters she meets and the situations in which she finds herself. I don' t see how you can criticize the movie for reflecting the book.

  • @Ryder-a-Blaze
    @Ryder-a-Blaze 9 місяців тому +22

    6:09 I’m getting so much nostalgia to Steve’s old videos form this, nice to see him animating again.

  • @serenitythesiren5031
    @serenitythesiren5031 9 місяців тому +53

    Fun fact: apparently, the second world in Through The Looking-Glass (in the book) is *not* Wonderland? I found this really weird (it would have been a good chance to explain more about Wonderland, and it would have been harder to have to create a whole new world, which he did?)
    It is, instead, very creatively called 'Looking-glass world'.

    • @generalginx
      @generalginx 9 місяців тому +4

      This actually makes sense, considering Wonderland is a place Alice dreamed up, and most people don’t have the same dream twice. (It’s possible, but mostly trauma induced, and Alice doesn’t appear to have trauma or is described to have any) Her having another vivid dream in a totally different but similar place actually makes more sense than her having another dream in the same place

    • @amythetoon6535
      @amythetoon6535 9 місяців тому +1

      @@generalginx eh? i've had plenty of dreams that have taken place in the same location as previous dreams (and i mean places that have been completely made up in my dreams, not real or fictional places), and so does my mother (though her dream locations are different from mine, obviously)

    • @generalginx
      @generalginx 9 місяців тому

      @@amythetoon6535 I did say it was possible but it’s not really a very common thing is what I mean

    • @devinmorse9112
      @devinmorse9112 9 місяців тому

      Weirder still, the Mad Hatter and March Hare have doppelgangers in the Looking-Glass World called Hatta and Haigha, the White King's messengers.

    • @rachellee.9389
      @rachellee.9389 9 місяців тому

      Gee, no sequel like nowadays? Uh, one was down a rabbit hole and one was through a mirror.

  • @lindajanes5698
    @lindajanes5698 9 місяців тому +6

    I saw this movie in the 60's, On tv when I was 11 y.o. or so. It was a Great movie!! I loved it. The special effects were incredible. A great British film. I even named my cat, Dinah after Alice's cat. ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @michaelszczys8316
    @michaelszczys8316 8 місяців тому +6

    I never saw this version before. It looks like it was pretty elaborately done for 1933.
    People expect something from a few years into the advent of sound movies to have the costumes and special effects of Star Wars. This looks very well done.
    With W.C.Fields as Humpty Dumpty it must have cost a good amount.
    When Disney came out with Snow White the original full animated movie it must have been the most awesome thing on earth.

  • @pastelstarchild4833
    @pastelstarchild4833 9 місяців тому +30

    Only 20 seconds in and I already recognize that song! I grew up on that Alice in Wonderland movie! I used to watch it all the time, along with the Disney version. I’m so happy someone else knows what it is! THANKS STEVE!!❤️

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 9 місяців тому

      My farts are better than Steve's farts.

    • @pastelstarchild4833
      @pastelstarchild4833 9 місяців тому

      @@orlandocorry2929 the opening song to the Classic Fables version of Alice in Wonderland. From Digiview Entertainment

    • @pastelstarchild4833
      @pastelstarchild4833 9 місяців тому

      Oh they left oof. Well here’s the link for anyone who wants it

  • @McForkCoverup2005
    @McForkCoverup2005 9 місяців тому +16

    13:29: That shot of the giant scary shadow-like crow was also used in the music video for Queens "Under Pressure". I've never seen this movie before, but I recognized that shot instantly when it happened.

    • @louiejimbroski8802
      @louiejimbroski8802 9 місяців тому

      link?

    • @McForkCoverup2005
      @McForkCoverup2005 9 місяців тому

      @@louiejimbroski8802 Just search for Queen Under Pressure in the search bar. That is how easy that is to find.

    • @abnormallynormal2491
      @abnormallynormal2491 9 місяців тому

      ​​@@louiejimbroski8802ua-cam.com/video/a01QQZyl-_I/v-deo.html
      At around 2:32 in the music video
      This was a huge revelation to me once OP pointed it out pff

  • @stevecarissimo4007
    @stevecarissimo4007 9 місяців тому +5

    I have a copy of 1917 Alice in Wonderland ….it’s only 45 min long yet it is a nice peek into early film…I love Charlotte Henry’s performance and the supporting cast……realize that if we didn’t have these early films…there wouldn’t be the special effects that we are amazed by today. These are classics in their own right….❤

  • @nicholasburns7970
    @nicholasburns7970 9 місяців тому +4

    To be fair this is a lot closer to the feeling of the books than any subsequent adaptations.

  • @mikesantillanmx5530
    @mikesantillanmx5530 9 місяців тому +18

    The new animated inserts are fun, it's a nice addition to the channel. I never heard about this film before, it's interesting that it includes much of the creepines, violence and characters from the books that most adaptations ignore. Thanks for talk about it!

  • @tylers1996
    @tylers1996 9 місяців тому +10

    One interesting thing I discovered is that Charlotte Henry (who played Alice) was already 19 when this movie came out. Pulled off playing a little girl weirdly well.

    • @Nick-ty9us
      @Nick-ty9us 9 місяців тому

      So we basically have an almost 20 year old playing a 12 year old girl

    • @tylers1996
      @tylers1996 9 місяців тому

      @@Nick-ty9us That is correct

    • @Nick-ty9us
      @Nick-ty9us 9 місяців тому

      @@tylers1996 why did the studio chose Charlotte even though she was not 12 instead she was almost in her 20s

    • @tylers1996
      @tylers1996 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Nick-ty9us Apparently they auditioned almost 7000 actresses for the role of Alice so I guess they felt she fit the role the best out of all. Plus being 19 it also meant the studio didn’t have to worry about child labour laws which I’m guessing might have been a factor too. Like Steve mentions Paramount was on the verge of bankruptcy so they probably just wanted this out the door without much fuss.

  • @springray2323
    @springray2323 9 місяців тому +4

    I’ve never seen this movie but what you’ve shown seems very faithful to both books. That trippy ending scene is straight from the ending to Through the Looking Glass. It looks like this movie at least tried to be faithful and the characters look really similar to the illustrations in the books. One problem with movies based on these books is that the books themselves don’t really have a narrative and that doesn’t always translate so great to the screen.

  • @rickelliott3683
    @rickelliott3683 9 місяців тому +8

    Obviously the producer of this video didn't really understand this film. It was beautifully made. It is a great film with a great cast.

  • @matthewfranks2198
    @matthewfranks2198 9 місяців тому +12

    15:24, here’s a way to describe that scene. Flat out insane

  • @hhfggvogtthehy6451
    @hhfggvogtthehy6451 9 місяців тому +18

    This movie looks like an early creepy pasta.💀

  • @arih5069
    @arih5069 9 місяців тому +11

    10:06 This part always cracks me up

  • @diannes3804
    @diannes3804 9 місяців тому +2

    I remember seeing this on tv when I was a kid. I don’t remember being scared, just thinking it was the weirdest thing I’d ever seen. Never gave it another thought until I clicked on your video. What a trip!

  • @alphadragonwolfwarrior6373
    @alphadragonwolfwarrior6373 9 місяців тому +13

    Though not a film, American Mcgee's Alice has a very interesting take on Wonderland and how it connects to Alice. The soundtrack is incredible as well.

  • @jessehorn6180
    @jessehorn6180 9 місяців тому +34

    I always enjoy Disney’s version of Alice in Wonderland.

  • @harisono6378
    @harisono6378 9 місяців тому +5

    This was a classic, far better than any Burton crap, or Disney! The presenter of this review is a dope who doesn't seem to understand what a great movie is!

  • @jesseperrett3692
    @jesseperrett3692 9 місяців тому +4

    It won a special place in my heart. Drawn by Carey Grant as the Mock Turtle & W.C. Fields as Humpty Dumpty, it was very hard to find. When it's hard to find, it makes it more worth it. Good Luck!

  • @tmamone83
    @tmamone83 9 місяців тому +10

    You know what version of "Alice in Wonderland" I like? The 1960s BBC version where all the actors are in regular Victorian-era clothes, not costume. In fact, that's why most of the actors--including Peter Sellers, Peter Cook, Leo McKern, and John Gielgud--agreed to be in it: they didn't want to wear animal costumes.

  • @rollingdice3679
    @rollingdice3679 9 місяців тому +15

    I love the more comical approach to your recent videos, keep it on

  • @LuisVazquez-hx3bk
    @LuisVazquez-hx3bk 9 місяців тому +4

    I remember the 1933 version. I think it is the best because all the story is about a dream of a young girl. The second part of the story was called "Alice through the looking glass". That was more like a nightmare.

  • @getnmyoven69
    @getnmyoven69 9 місяців тому +9

    14:11 tell ‘em to bring out the whole ocean

  • @thomasspongeconductor2222
    @thomasspongeconductor2222 9 місяців тому +7

    Say what you will, but these effects were massively ahead of their time, and they still hold up today, despite the creepiness.

  • @timrose9826
    @timrose9826 9 місяців тому +7

    I saw this in elementary school when I was a kid
    Strange and terrifying
    Loved it

  • @duranls1
    @duranls1 9 місяців тому +6

    Considering how the "small people" were treated in the past in several careers and jobs I am not surprised they didn't had a problem tossing him like that 9:10

  • @nathanblevins9870
    @nathanblevins9870 9 місяців тому +8

    8:45
    That surprisingly funny how one guy plays a frog to a cat for the Alice and wonderland books series.

  • @MaravillaInWonderland
    @MaravillaInWonderland 9 місяців тому +5

    Really appreciate you bringing attention to the original books, as well as more Alice in Wonderland film adaptations aside from the Disney ones, as they’re all wonderful in their own ways!! 💕💜💕
    I also really appreciate that you gave the 1988 Burbank Films adaptation some love, including the theme song!! That’s my favorite animated Alice in Wonderland adaptation of all time and it’s literally my childhood 😭😭💕💜💕 I honestly don’t know who I would be today without it

  • @Curtiz2008
    @Curtiz2008 9 місяців тому +6

    This was not made for kids, but for the dance of entire family. Even cartoons were intended for audiences including adults. Some examples were Fleischer's Snow White and Swing You Sinners, and Disney's The Mad Scientist.

    • @michaelszczys8316
      @michaelszczys8316 8 місяців тому

      Even the Flintstones were originally adult - based. They were sponsored by Winston cigarettes.

  • @Diablon76
    @Diablon76 9 місяців тому +1

    Something that would fit your channel perfectly would be Téléchat, a french kids show with puppets. It's EASILY the most cursed, unsettling and downright bizarre show I've ever seen, and a lot of it scared the fuck out of me, yet I couldn't stop watching it. It was like a parody of news, with weird events, fake commercials, nonsensical fake science, and a slew of other things that completely flew over my head as a kid. Then again I'm pretty sure sometimes it just didn't even try to make any sense whatsoever, and maybe that's why I was fascinated with it, despite never understanding anything.
    What I really remember were some of the visuals, characters straight out of a nightmare, and actually one of them looked eerily similar to the thumbnail of this video, he was an iron with a weird human face stretched and grafted onto it. Heck even one of the two main characters made me uneasy, a big anthropomorphic black cat wearing a suit, with a cast on his left arm (which he would open up and take various objects out of). Something about his dead eyes, idk.
    I'm not sure an english dub was ever made, but I think if you Google it you'll know why it comes to mind when I see other content you've covered on this channel lol

  • @jamesanthony8438
    @jamesanthony8438 9 місяців тому +3

    "Despite the novelty of having the characters look like pure nightmare fuel..."
    Or rather, as they did in the original illustrations by John Tenniel. =)
    While watching the bit about the Mock Turtle, I got hit with a riff by I think Mike Nelson (I can't remember whether it was from Mystery Science Theater or a RiffTrax): "Inside that costume... Sir Lawrence Olivier."
    Turns out it was actually Cary Grant from "Arsenic and Old Lace" (1941) and "The Bishop's Wife" (1947)
    Other great actors I hadn't noticed were:
    White Knight = Gary Cooper "Sergeant York" (1941), "High Noon" (1952)
    Humpty-Dumpty = W.C. Fields "The Bank Dick" (1940), "Never Give A Sucker an Even Break" (1941)
    Mad Hatter = Edward Everett Horton "The Bullwinkle Show" Fractured Fairy Tales narrator (1959)
    "Do I recommend checking this out? I mean, I guess if you're really curious just for the novelty of it..."
    And getting "curiouser and curiouser" as Alice would say. =)

  • @LadyEmu
    @LadyEmu 9 місяців тому +5

    Dearie me, I did the mistake of trying to eat while watching this and nearly choked more than once at the hilarious comments. You really outdid yourself on this one. Kudos galore!

  • @prince_p0ss
    @prince_p0ss 9 місяців тому +3

    Honestly the cow head on the mock turtle is so pretty and well done, the rest of its body is kind of horrific to look at but you can really tell how much effort they put into the costume as well as the other costumes

  • @qsnitch3342
    @qsnitch3342 9 місяців тому +23

    There is a really creepy version of Alice in Wonderland that's just called Alice. It was directed by Jan Švankmajer in 1988, and probably has the scariest imagery when it comes to Alice in Wonderland adaptations.

    • @brokenglassshimmerlikestar3407
      @brokenglassshimmerlikestar3407 9 місяців тому

      yeah it's wonderful. and this channel has done a review of it already

    • @qsnitch3342
      @qsnitch3342 9 місяців тому

      @@brokenglassshimmerlikestar3407 yes, I saw that the other day. I had written this comment a bit before that video came out, though.

  • @WigglePup
    @WigglePup 9 місяців тому +14

    As a long-time viewer, the quality of the videos are really going up. Nice work :D👍

  • @gabagooberooni
    @gabagooberooni 9 місяців тому +5

    I myself am actually a great fan of this version.
    Different to say the least, especially considering its arguably outdated effects,
    but I still find it charmingly fascinating in an odd sort of way.

  • @rabbitkinggod4602
    @rabbitkinggod4602 9 місяців тому +6

    15:44 somehow a child dies of a massive heart attack. Experts say she had the worst nightmare known to man.

  • @rudedolphin
    @rudedolphin 9 місяців тому +11

    your animated segments are entertaining as fuck dude, the "not roofied" thing made me pause because I laughed too hard. Has such a vintage charm to it lmao
    great video!

  • @Zach92743
    @Zach92743 9 місяців тому +9

    Another Interesting Alice in Wonderland Adaptation you Could talk about is ALICE (1988) by Jan Švankmajer. An Experimental Stop-Motion version of Alice in Wonderland.

  • @tripleee935
    @tripleee935 9 місяців тому +19

    A movie I came across recently, that I think would fit well on this channel is MirrorMask. Gave off Alice in Wonderland vibes... But the computerized animations were absolute nightmare fuel

  • @jyesucevitz
    @jyesucevitz 9 місяців тому +4

    04:01 i wanna see the bloopers of the cat giving Alice a few "skibbidy-papps" with those paws. which you know came after that cats cries of "put me the eff down." went unanswered.

  • @cornjobb
    @cornjobb 9 місяців тому +3

    this is a classic, and used to be on the tv in my childhood all the time. the fact that really big stars of the day were in it (like a lot of the versions of the story over the years) like gary cooper and wc fields makes it very watchable to me. the grotesque nature of the characters and costumes was very appropriate for kids at the time, since it mirrored the weird and fantastical halloween costumes of the day (before everything was licensed to hell and sanitized). also, in the 70's there were films with completely topless female actresses that were rated "G" (i assume that's what "U" means in the UK).

  • @trojanhorseLmao
    @trojanhorseLmao 9 місяців тому +5

    Humpty reminds me of that creepy chocolate egg ad

  • @tntkff9901
    @tntkff9901 9 місяців тому +9

    12:40 Jesus Christ! Looks like they were designed by Meat Canyon!

  • @ellenlinn7
    @ellenlinn7 8 місяців тому +2

    The Mock Turtle is played by Cary Grant- of course it was black and white- they didn't have color then! It's a brilliant movie! LOTS of other great cameos!

  • @pinkfeiry
    @pinkfeiry 9 місяців тому +4

    This movie is literally both books combined that's kinda impressive.

  • @vincenzobartone2539
    @vincenzobartone2539 9 місяців тому +3

    The song playing at 0:20 (which is from 1988 animated film) unlocked a childhood memory I had completely forgotten about until this moment. As I watched that film often

    • @7Dusty4Rusty1
      @7Dusty4Rusty1 7 місяців тому +1

      I grew up with Paramount 1933 version and Disney 1951 version

  • @MsKall
    @MsKall 9 місяців тому +4

    its so cute he is slowly using animated bits (probably by him)

  • @SatanRomps
    @SatanRomps 9 місяців тому +4

    So, not to be 'that guy' but Lewis Carroll wrote Alice in Wonderland as a protest piece to the "new math" that was being taught to kids in that day. Thats why theres so many numbers and math references. Its to show how life will turn upside-down and be all crazy or us and our kids if we adopt this "new math".

  • @EricBarryComedy1
    @EricBarryComedy1 9 місяців тому +1

    This narration does such a disservice to how amazing acid trips are, and how truly horrifying weed can be.

  • @JurassicReptile
    @JurassicReptile 9 місяців тому +5

    I love classic cinema like this. I'm a big fan of the Universal Monsters from around this time.
    its crazy that this ended up being weirder and creepier in areas

  • @ramirocaorlin4613
    @ramirocaorlin4613 9 місяців тому +10

    Have you watched the animated short "Malice in wonderland" (1984) by Vince Collins? It's a very bizarre take of the classic story with lots of surrealism and bizarrery. Hope you can review it in another vidoo along with the Jan Svankmajer version.

    • @p-__
      @p-__ 9 місяців тому

      My farts are better than Steve's farts.

  • @undeadladybug7723
    @undeadladybug7723 9 місяців тому +2

    I’ve seen old movies before, but this is by far the freakiest

  • @Vespyr_
    @Vespyr_ 5 місяців тому +1

    The creature effects here are waaaaay ahead of their time. Amazing makeup and costumes.

  • @rhoadrunner3281
    @rhoadrunner3281 9 місяців тому +4

    Steve have you ever thought of reviewing Pink Floyd’s the Wall? Probably some of my favorite animated segments of any film. Love your work man.

  • @alice5790
    @alice5790 9 місяців тому +4

    5:19 just a minor correction cus im also a prick 😭- the second book doesn't take her back to wonderland, it takes her to looking-glass land, a sort of weird third parallel universe

  • @JustinAnglinVA
    @JustinAnglinVA 9 місяців тому +5

    No joke, i honesty like the practical effects from this movie. There's creepy stuff sure, but some of this stuff looks so cool, and for the 30s, it looks really good. Specifically the shrinking effects, and even some of the big sets.

  • @GhostlyAngel
    @GhostlyAngel 9 місяців тому +3

    My favorite Alice in Wonderland was always the one from 1999. Imagine a Cheshire cat with Whoopi Goldberg's face and Gene Wilder singing a song about soup. It's crazy. Not to mention countless other stars

    • @aileenbordelon7884
      @aileenbordelon7884 8 місяців тому +1

      I loved that one growing up! I remember really liking it because it was more accurate to the book. The pig scene freaked me out tho 😵‍💫😂

    • @SteveCarras
      @SteveCarras 8 місяців тому

      NAPOLEON DYNAMITE'S (2004) Tina Majorino is Alice in that. Good TV GUIDE cover there.

  • @SammyWatsit
    @SammyWatsit 9 місяців тому +4

    Id recommend that everyone watches the 1999 version. Its an incredible movie and amazing take on alice in wonderland, its my childhood version and it has some insanely freaky parts and is the reason im interested in this genre today

    • @Account_Not_Applicable
      @Account_Not_Applicable 9 місяців тому +1

      That's the one with Tina Majorino as Alice, right? I loved that version as a kid! I prolly watched it more than the animated Disney version. They managed to make the character designs find a balance between realistic animals and humans with animal attributes. Pretty much every actor in it nailed their roles, and I always loved the touch that the party guests shown at the start would represent the characters in Wonderland. I don't know if many other adaptations have done that. I second this recommendation!