Have u seen that jenny jones episode about the gay guy who had a crush on a straight guy and the straight guy ended up murdering the gay guy & ultimately got the show cancelled?
Princess Botanical was actually hated and low-key bullied by other club kids, much like Angel. I remember on Motherboard around 2002, a bunch of Club Kids were were reminiscing about the 90s and their Geraldo appearances. One of them were like “Holy crap REMEMBER PRINCESS BOTANICAL!? What a tacky piece of crap she was??” which fed into a bunch of others chiming in on how she was “just a wannabe” “didn’t belong and shouldn’t have been allowed” was “too tacky” and “too fat”- which led into a story about a club kids fashion show where princess botanical took the runway wearing coffee cans as platforms and the coffee cans bent and collapsed and she fell face first in a pile of garlands and shame. “Total garbage- glad she didn’t stick around the scene too long” they said. Meanwhile- she seems hella sweet, shy, curious about new things and excited about getting to express herself creatively. I don’t get the hate I was reading. And really that just goes to show that the club kids were NOT really as lovely, cool and accepting of all and any freaks as they claimed. They could definitely be snooty and judgemental (SOME not all)
Every scene is like this and certainly is for the so called "elite!"... You have a group of outcasts, supposedly about being ones self and free expression, wherein reality said group is the most judgemental, catty and narrow-minded.. They are the exact mirror of what they rebel against!.. It's a part of human nature to pair of into cliques as humans, we're very tribal in nature!..I speak solely from what I've experienced and observed and aren't passing judgment, just stating the facts!.
You know what the im glad to hear it. I HOPE that hate chased her away and I can almost guarantee she lives a normal life and contributes to society. Half of these people are in their 50s and STILL putting on parties for 10 people and places like the VA it’s really sad
i read that article and its pure high school bitchery. whoever wrote that was a bitter person and it shows. i adore her look and I hope shes doing well now.
That breaks my heart because she was prob someone who didn’t fit in where was from, loveddd the queers, loved fashion & art and she had to end up meeting mean ass people. I pray that she is thriving. That’s so messed up, she doesnt deserve that hate.
@melly mel Astro was an experience. Better i think to not live and share a 1 bedroom. Loves me, OCD so decides what of my things are to trash, keep & where to put. Unilaterally decides we are monogamous couple, won't leave and I can't make him by nyc housing law, can't evict him due to covid, so finally I get order of protection. Also drinks 6-10 tall boy 22 oz cans malt liquor/day
Wow! I don't think there's another club kid video out there with as many clear and close-up shots of Angel. Really nice to see him looking happy and R.I.P. of course❤️
KIds are gullible , you buy crap everyday , because you think this is good for you , and you do not even blame the seller and publicists who use all the tricks in the box to sell it to you . Teenagers are the easiest people to influence , you can make them do anything you want as long as you make them believe this is in their best interest . Buy drugs, it's cool, buy drugs, people will love you and want to be with you, buy drugs or you'll be an outcast and will have no social life, try drugs and all your problems will go away , especially your teenage existentialist crisis , do drugs and you will be the talk of the town and the most popular person around . No Hugger , this is MOST CERTAINLY NOT a consensual agreement , this is one person influencing another one into doing something under false pretexts and made believe hopes . This is selling an illusion that will eventually destroy the life of the person using the drugs and make the one selling them only richer . Ask yourself the question, why do people buy something, that is an absolute poison for their system . Would go buy some rat poison and eat it ? LSD and heroin are worse than rat poison . So i am not buying one piece of the consensual agreement , argument . And you should know better than that yourself, unless you are a teenager . He sold something that he knows is going to fuck up the life of the people buying it , and yet had no scruples selling it and didn't feel bad for a second for what he was doing as long as he makes a buck out of it . I would call that the very definition of evil. This is exactly what rich nations do to third world nation on daily basis , and the third world nations buy it because they are told that this is in their best interest , in order to get a share of the big cake , when in the end, this is just the hand of the farmer feeding the animals until they are big enough to be taken to the slaughter house, Until the last minute the animal believes it is being taken care of and loves the farmer . This is exactly the same thing .
Most teenager live under a rock, and I do not blame anybody but the dealers . So called danger ? You make it sound as if the danger part of those drugs was unsubstantiated . How old are you Hugger ? Rat poison can make you euphoric if you take it in small quantity , that's why i chose that example . And tree hugger, do not give me a lecture on the medical use of drug , i am both an MD and a Vet and have been working for the UN treating people and animals for the past 15 years . So, tree hugger let's say that when you have three PhD in the medical field (the third one being neuroscience and biology, so you imagine easily how well aware i am of the effect of drugs on the system and their medical use) . then and only then, can you give me a lecture, because right now , you are not telling me anything i haven't studied already 20 years ago . "It's only when you start abusing drugs that things could go south, " yes i am also very well aware of that (is that your professional medical opinion ? And this is precisely why drugs administrated in a medical environment (hospital, clinic , home by actual docs, which are the only places and way drugs should be used) are so highly supervised , because of their addictive properties . What exactly do you mean by "that's fully on you" ? Also before we further this discussion , as i feel very awkward talking to a tree hugger , i would appreciate to know your name just the first name is enough and also your age and profession , just to figure out who i am discussing with. You understand of course . I am Kyllian , born in Arizona , raised mostly in Europe (borading school in Switzerland) , part Icelandic (father) part British (mother) , i gave up my american citizenship a long time ag. , As i said i'm a Vet and an MD though i mostly work as a vet today (at my partner and I's clinic) and for the WAP which is a branch of the UN based in London , I am 43 years old , living bith in Zurich Switzerland where our clinic is, and London , married to another vet, a japanese man, and father of three adopted teens . How about yourself ?
I’ve had Party Monster on dvd since 2006. I randomly bought it when I saw Macaulay culkin on the cover and it’s in my top 10 fave movies of all time. WHO else loved this movie??! Seth Green is absolutely phenomenal in this! He’s unrecognizable and I think the only time you see his true acting chops.
SAME! Macaulay Culkin and Seth Green killed it in that movie! If you haven’t read James St. James’ memoir titled ‘Disco Bloodbath: A Fabulous but True Tale of Murder in Clubland’, I highly recommend it! (I believe the book was actually retitled ‘Party Monster’ after the movie was released in 2003)
Yesss!!! If you haven't seen the documentary "Glory Daze", that is another must see. I love that they actually got a lot of the top club kids, as adults, to reminisce about their time in the 90s and it also talks about Angel's murder, following Michael's release from prison. I often wonder if they ever thought about making another, since Michael's passing. Also, if you love Party Monster the movie, and haven't seen it, Party Monster The Shockumentary, is something you definitely have to watch. I actually found it, in its entirety, here on youtube. It's about an hour long and it is interesting. After seeing it, I now realize where a lot of scenes from the movie came from. I don't care what anyone says, I think Macaulay and Seth, nailed their roles! If you don't know, there are also little scenes in the movie that were taken right from the Shockumentary and have some of the real club kids. Ernie Glam and Richie Rich are the 2 that stand out the most off the top of my head. Anyway, you should check them out!
@@manda_musings8459 Party Monster the Shockumentary is actually here on UA-cam. I think I have it on one of my playlists but not sure if it's public or private. I found it on here though. Then the other one, "Glory Daze the Life and Times of Michael Alig", I know is on Prime Video, but I think only for rent or purchase. I'll have to do some digging and see if I can find it free anywhere. I know some one uploaded it on UA-cam a while back but I think its since been removed.
@@angel-gu8co What Face Book, Instagram? There is nothing now. One night, I walked into the Tunnel Nigh Club and it was like walking into a living cartoon.
Absolutely! I stayed home once in middle school and was watching Jenny Jones when my cousin on my dads side (we didn’t see them much) popped up in the audience with a 2 foot Mohawk dyed bright green. She spoke in the audience. The show was about runaways. It was wild
@@cuppachar201 I didn’t take it as such. They come out on drugs, parading around in outfits that make the circus look mild, and this man who is actually passionate about real journalism is being told by his producers he has to have an hour long conversation with the bunch. He’s probably beside himself trying to figure out what the hell to talk about when they have no real aim, or focus in life, and 90% of the population - his viewers- (especially in the 90’s)- couldn’t relate to a single bit of their degenerate lifestyles. It degraded his journalistic integrity. If I had worked my ass off to get where he was I’d be saying “What is this world coming to” too. Even now in 2020 with the freak parades on display everywhere (likely thanks to shows like this) this is painful to watch.
Did anyone notice Alig correcting the female audience member telling her it’s “asking” not “axing” and “axing is what an ax murderer does” damn he’d know
Why would nit be foreshadowing@@ddl4374 unless there was an axe someplace in the story? There's no axe. Maybe because the audience member butchered the English language, that's foreshadowing, too?
"44:16 the closing shot is wordless Angel winking at us B-) " . . . . Bravo T S , i had not seen your comment until after i'd made the same observation a year later. Michael's death got me reading wikipedia and even "buying into " his roommate/co-defendant's account of taking a hammer to Angel's head while Angel was throttling Michael's neck and threatening to snap it if Michael didn't pay off an old drug debt . . . presumably the financial pressure had been invigorated by Angel having been dismissed from the club where he worked and sold drugs because authorities were charging the club owner for condoning drug sales at his establishment. people + drugs + law enforcement creates quite the snake eating its own tail ! ;-)
Seriously , look at its face he looks like he's put on drag makeup before... oh wow here's an idea let's turn out a straight man on television ,yay... the only problem is that's not a straight man... TV people
@@jeffreybrandes881 Yes. Its amazing how people will claim to be your friend when all the while they really don't like you. 😔 It took me a while but I began to see that with the friends that I had from my childhood. I finally gave up on those fake friendships.
@@jeffreybrandes881 Heroin dealers kill people too. If you want to be a drug dealer you have to expect an environment that's not friendly and it's not rare that they get killed. I'm not saying I agree with his murder, but making him the good guy seems weird. I would never sell heroin in my life, because it makes people die and ruin their lives, and no one who is capable of selling it is not a good person.
@divina6 Oh no he wasn't talking about Marilyn Manson who by the way, wasn't even a Goth, he was Rivethead/Shock Rocker (the industrial scene of the 1990s, that was mainstream at the time while Goth was underground) but the comment you were replying to, he was talking about Charles Manson and his crazy cult.
williamgatesenson By your comment, it’s pretty obvious that you’re projecting your actions onto others. Sad. Though like you said, it’s ok. It’s ok, because it is so blatant to others as to what you are doing.
Wow. Angel in the thumbnail. What balls of Alig to have brought his dealer on the show. How creepy that the murderer and his victim are sharing the stage at all like this. So morbidly fascinating
Why does it show 'balls" and why would you think Alig chose who was on the show? Did he choose the lesbian/tranny preggo act? No, those people were not in the scene. PRODUCERS choose who will be on the show and chose a guy with giant red wings. Angel wasn't just Michael's dealer, he was the primary dealer within the club scene unless you count Lord Michael (Google Wu Tang Clan, no relation to Alig) who was funneling all the X.
I googled club kids a few days ago after I saw a cool "my best club kid look" tiktok wondering what they were. Now I'm watching this video with a glamorous, mysterious, 90s nightlife kingpin - like a cult leader in many ways - surrounded by his loyal and equally glamorous club kids. At his peak he was probably one of the coolest people on the planet, a leader in the NYC nightlife, creating a movement, and leaving a mark on the fashion world forever. It's all so fascinating and compelling I've caught myself momentarily forgetting that he fell into addiction then brutally murdered his friend and dismembered the body. And here in this video is the kingpin, the victim, and the very 1994 Geraldo rushing through the audience member's answers as if he's being told each answer can only be 4 seconds long then he has to make a stupid underhanded joke at their expense then rush on to his next victim. What the fuck bro this is probably a top 5 all time video find for me. 90s daytime TV true crime fever dream eleganza, 5/5 stars. RIP Angel, my heart goes out to his family.
You forgot RIP Michael. It takes two to tango, and that's coming from someone who actually knew both of them and was part of the scene. So RIP Angel and RIP Alig.
Every generation thinks they're the first to do everything wild, but its just a form of immaturity without it even being realised. Some may be a bit different, but basically its kids being kids in their ways during certain ages in life. Eventually, everyone grows up or changes and if they don't its often not a pretty sight to see or sad. Theres a reason people mature and become responsible and don't act like they're 18 to 21 forever.
lets not forget Angel was a heroin dealer amongst other not so angelic hobbies. He didn't deserve to die of course, but he insisted on being in that circle and used drugs to leverage his way in as a poser. I make the point as the reality of the situation seems to be convoluted with so many comments painting Alig as unprovoked and Angel not voluntarily participating in a dangerous way of living.
I watched this when it first aired on TV. I knew Michael, Earl, Angel, Ritchie and Keoki. I miss them so much. RIP to Michael and Angel. And any others who may have passed that I don't know about, or didn't know.
@@ThatFilmisGnarly SO NOT TRUE!!!! Maybe here or there, but well dressed and it was never proven or a fact that he did the hammer! Watched that loser's movie?
Just tried to Google Rachel Fisk to see her modeling career and nothing showed up . . . Yet if I look up most of these Club Kids I find countless photos of them in the clubs. So, who really was getting booked?
yeah. this made me think of his mother and the weird look she had, maybe being "too okay" with his drug use etc has left him in total disarray. idk if it was "good faith" or in their dynamic he simply held all the power. you gotta be a strong woman to have a son like this, he seems to have a very VERY strong personality who can be made even more difficult to deal with when you throw drugs into the mix. she probably had no saying at all. but seeing this dynamic too makes it even more weird and interesting
Its called HEROIN. Which he was obtaining from Angel. Prior to all this, heroin had no place in the club scene. None. We were strictly coke, Ketamine (you're welcome) and X. Once heroin came on like an invasive species, it was a matter of time until junkie type sheet happened. And it did.
Michael’s not just “hangin out” with an 11 year old kid. His mother lets him do drag and he happens to be inspired by the club kid era of drag. Desmond appeared on Michael and Ernie’s UA-cam show a couple of times and they just talked about fashion and inspiration. His mother was present the entire time. (I’m not saying Michael was right for murdering Angel, but that doesn’t make him a total creep pedophile who likes to hang out with kids. He’s simply just passing the fashion torch down.)
He's likely exhausted from entertaining thousands of club goers a few hours beforehand, and working a full day in the office before that. He might even be high, since Angel was dealing him heroin at this time. But go ahead, call it "loving darkness".
@@duffman102 you are just assuming things about a person you don't even know. We didn't get Joan Rivers here in Holland. We got the trash shows and that's what I based my comment on. I forgive you for trying to look like you are better then me.
He was a great interviewer in the beginning. Geraldo would expose the government and botched police work. He spoke about serial killer Jeffery Dahmer and gave insider information about a white man who visited Dahmer on several occasions while he was actively killing Black men. He spoke about the Challenger accident and how the astronauts were left in the ocean for hours when they were probably ALIVE. This video seems silly but Michael Alig has been convicted of murder and has been released. Now Michael Alig has been seen with a child Desmond Is Amazing a little boy who decided to dress in trans style because his mother liked Ruepaul. The little boy Desmond has been seen in strip clubs taking off a little and getting paid by gay men. He imitated snorting ketamine and has acted confused on film. He told his mother that he was afraid of being murdered. It's sad actually. A little boy wanting attention by his MOTHER is now being paraded as a voice of transchildren.
We used to beg our parents for those amazing shoes growing up! We would see them in the stores around Baltimore City where I am from and still live. I was born in 1985 so I only got to watch and admire them! Before the internet we had to actually dig and research the people and subcultures we were interested in! #AstroEarl always and still has some of the best outfits!
I wonder if anyone noticed that the longer the Club Kids thing went on the more extreme their behavior became. Everything they did oozed addiction, superficiality, and emptiness.
much like the club the guinness girls were a part of - “shining young people” or something. people who live in excess like that, lifestyles like that, are there for a reason. they have the right combination of charisma and narcissism to make any room THEIR room, any chair their throne, any audience charmed. unfortunately spontaneity like that requires constant combustion to stay alive which always leads to a huge mess in the end
lifestyles like these don't sustain very long...... while i acknowledge they're a huge part of lgbt history, i don't condone or glorify any of the shit they do besides dressing up. with hedonism as a central part of your life you're bound to crack soon
@@777jonesYounger generations don't realize that 1st Gen analog video in the 90's actually looked pretty good, but much of what is now passed around is sourced from consumer VHS recordings.
Ugh wow seeing the cut of Angel at 3:11 gave me goosebumps. Michael and all these people could have done something amazing with their lives, could have became club kid elders and taught new generations about fashion and support for the lgbtq, Michael and his friends had so much potential and instead a life was lost and many other lives ruined. I wish these kids with special talents never have to feel so rejected from society that they start using heavy drugs like they did. It's such a sad story
A crime occurred. Angel lost his life. Michael went to prison. But not sure why that makes the club kids story less amazing. It's sad, but doesn't erase the years of inspired creativity that this movement brought into the world. Were you there? Does not sound like you were. Angel was a good guy and my downstairs neighbor but hard drugs like heroin don't just affect users. Sometimes they affect the people selling the heroin.
man richie really wasnt a bad kid. he really wants to standup for him and his friends and hes trying to hammer that whole "self acceptance" message that wasnt so popular in the 80s.
These people talk so much about how they do what they do because they want to be "themselves" and be in a place where they all can love and accept each other blah blah blah. But at the end of the day they are mostly awful people who hurt each other. Everything they were doing was solely for the purpose of getting attention. All the goofy outfits/makeup wasn't them expressing themselves. It was just an abrasive act to get attention. If people reacted positively to them, they won. If they reacted negatively to them, they still won because now they get to fight back and pretend they are champions of the LGBTQ community. At the end of the day, it was just a bunch of dumb boring people who wanted attention, so they did what they had to do to get it. All they needed was a reaction from the people around them, and you people gave it to them.
funny how when the black girl went off on Tiny , Tiny made fun of her saying "it's Asking NOT axing " and then Michael is like axing is what an axe murderer does .
Damian Griego-Hernandez She was. These talk shows always had actors planted in the audience to ask certain questions or say certain things to be provocative.
At 19, I’d be embarrassed to tell anyone that baby daddy was 15. He can’t work. He can’t even drive. I’d love to know how that family turned out. Especially the kid…what a joke.
fernanda capaceta to be honest it had a lot to do with drug tho , things wouldn't have been as extreme as it was if they weren't completely roasted outta they're minds. I mean have you watched or read interviews, documentaries, ect ?
Idk about all of them but some of them are quite successful! Richie Rich for example has done multiple albums, movies and had one of the most successful brands of the 2000's with heatherette! He's still a designer although he's not that much in the spotlight these days.
1994: I was a hoodlum from Queens going to Limelight, Club USA, The Tunnel, Palladium, and the OG Sound Factory with my boys 2023: Deirdre from the panel on this show, is my closest friend. She has had, and continues to have an amazing career in modeling, fashion, and interior design.
SO GOOD TO SEE “ANGEL” AGAIN WITH HIS BEAUTIFUL BIG WINGS - BLAST FROM MY PAST - SO MANY NIGHTS IN THE TUNNEL... THE KENNY SHARF ROOM, LIMELIGHT, TWILO, THE ROARING 90’s WERE THE BEST!!!
the 90s in my world were very difernt and I wouldnt change a thing fucking damn glad I didn't grow up on east or west coast I'm ROCK n ROLL alternative heavy metal blues hip hop big cars big trucks horses boats open rivers open road no big tall bldgs
No he did not deserve to be murdered , but only because i am against dead penalty . But i am completely for the Talion law . If angel had the axe or a gun he might have killed michael . Junkies get killed on a daily basis by their dealers when they can 't pay and it never makes first page , and nobody gives a fuck about it, so when the junkie kills the dealer i really don't see how this should be a tragedy . I am neither a junkie nor a dealer . Don't get me wrong i am not a saint either , i did use drugs recreatively when i was young and stupid and i can even indulge in a spliff every now and then if i feel like it on holiday (but it is grown locally by friends who run a vegan organic farm and wouldn't hurt a fly) . But i have three kids , 3 teens and they get approached by dealers and because they are smart they report it to me . And one day they got approached by a scumbag who dared putting his hand on one of my daughter (and i just mean putting his filthy hands on her shoulder ) so i went to see where this happened to see whom she was approached by . (just for the record i have over 20 years of Krav Maga and Boxing behind me plus 5 years of L.I.N.E) . I found the guy (i don't rely on the police for this kind of shit, they won't move a fucking finger unless someone gets shot or raped ), this pile of shit of a man didn't owe me anything and i didn't owe him anything , and yet when i was holding his neck in my hands to give him a good scare about never fucking getting close to my daughters or anybody around here ever again , it is only common sense and basic decency toward another living thing that stopped be from snapping his neck and do the fucking neighborhood a favor . If i had been high on E or C or K or whatever Michael was high on that day , i think i could have made carpaccio of a dealer with an axe . But at the end of the day the drug business at its roots is one of the dirtiest and most disgusting business (after the animal trade) and is responsible for the death and exploitation , abuse, extortion , corruption and intimidation of millions of people around the world (and i am talking about the kids and teen like mine, or elderly, in third world nations who are used and exploited against their will for this business and treated like absolute crap when they are not shot the second they rebel or threaten to leave) . So i have neither any form of respect for dealers in our so called developed societies nor for the users of those drugs . Personally whether angel killed michael or michael killed angel i couldn't fucking care less , but i am never fucking gonna believe that the loss of a fucking dealer is a (forgive the pun) big deal . He was a piece of shit when he was alive , he is still a piece of shit now that he rots . If anything , his death probably spared the life of other teens or kids who , thanks to it, were never approached by him . So no he didn't deserve to die, but i am glad he did. That's called karma .
Every time someone talks about how it's not about drugs he immediately goes to someone with the "craziest" outfit and gets them to talk to get the audience to laugh or not believe there aren't drugs. It's quite frustrating
OLolaLola First of all, terms like "snowflake" or "triggered" are thrown around way too liberally, and are generally used by people who lack the ability to articulate a viewpoint. Also, you're implying that the op is being overly sensitive when the criticism was actually quite valid. Talk shows back in the 90's were consistently criticized for being overly sensationalized and manipulative in their presentation of topics. Geraldo was infamous for being one of the worst offenders.
3:05 Omg, Alig speaking of the bruises on his neck complete with close-ups by the camera, then the shot to Angel. What we are witnessing here, people, is a beautiful flowering of evil, in the most terrible way possible.
So happy we have the internet because this was my youth. I was sophomore in high school working at a music store and finally in 1996 I made my way into the last bits of this and the goth scene. It was a fun expressive time. I made it out many didn't. Crazy to see angel alive right here though. Wow!!!!!!!!!!! Sad and intriguing.
I wrote to Michael when he was in prison. He used to write back, but never really had much to say, except about his book he was writing. We did have a laugh about Peter Gations and Michael Alig(s) names creating Allegations .
It's crazy that this moment is frozen in time. . A murderer and victim on the same show. . .intense
Drug dealers are no victims. They’re indirectly responsible for other people’s deaths.
I mean he wont be a victim until the day it happens. They're still prolly normal here
Have u seen that jenny jones episode about the gay guy who had a crush on a straight guy and the straight guy ended up murdering the gay guy & ultimately got the show cancelled?
@@NANotApplicable Yes, I remember that.
Frozen in history is correct, and extremely somber.
Princess Botanical was actually hated and low-key bullied by other club kids, much like Angel. I remember on Motherboard around 2002, a bunch of Club Kids were were reminiscing about the 90s and their Geraldo appearances. One of them were like “Holy crap REMEMBER PRINCESS BOTANICAL!? What a tacky piece of crap she was??” which fed into a bunch of others chiming in on how she was “just a wannabe” “didn’t belong and shouldn’t have been allowed” was “too tacky” and “too fat”- which led into a story about a club kids fashion show where princess botanical took the runway wearing coffee cans as platforms and the coffee cans bent and collapsed and she fell face first in a pile of garlands and shame. “Total garbage- glad she didn’t stick around the scene too long” they said.
Meanwhile- she seems hella sweet, shy, curious about new things and excited about getting to express herself creatively. I don’t get the hate I was reading. And really that just goes to show that the club kids were NOT really as lovely, cool and accepting of all and any freaks as they claimed. They could definitely be snooty and judgemental (SOME not all)
Every scene is like this and certainly is for the so called "elite!"... You have a group of outcasts, supposedly about being ones self and free expression, wherein reality said group is the most judgemental, catty and narrow-minded.. They are the exact mirror of what they rebel against!.. It's a part of human nature to pair of into cliques as humans, we're very tribal in nature!..I speak solely from what I've experienced and observed and aren't passing judgment, just stating the facts!.
Just like the mansion family.
You know what the im glad to hear it. I HOPE that hate chased her away and I can almost guarantee she lives a normal life and contributes to society. Half of these people are in their 50s and STILL putting on parties for 10 people and places like the VA it’s really sad
i read that article and its pure high school bitchery. whoever wrote that was a bitter person and it shows. i adore her look and I hope shes doing well now.
That breaks my heart because she was prob someone who didn’t fit in where was from, loveddd the queers, loved fashion & art and she had to end up meeting mean ass people. I pray that she is thriving. That’s so messed up, she doesnt deserve that hate.
Geraldo is low key a fan he keeps bringing these guys on his show
@Matt Stevenson you're not wrong
Well, he is in the industry, I’m sure behind closed doors, he is a big fan and does the same.
For ratings only
Ratings
@@mini_worx yup freaks do bring in the views
Geraldo is so pissed he was too old too join the club kids.
Michael Alig? Richie Rich? Kevin? Is there anyone on that panel that Macauly Culkin hasn't played?
Bahahaha, RIGHT!
Haha true true!!
Lmao wow so true!
LOL
All I know is that Geraldo was the obvious product of supremacist programming of small minded people!
"I'm tired of being a Human being... it's really exhausting" WOOORRRDDD
Was exhausting having Astro in my apartment for months.
@Roger Com wtf?
@melly mel Astro was an experience. Better i think to not live and share a 1 bedroom. Loves me, OCD so decides what of my things are to trash, keep & where to put. Unilaterally decides we are monogamous couple, won't leave and I can't make him by nyc housing law, can't evict him due to covid, so finally I get order of protection.
Also drinks 6-10 tall boy 22 oz cans malt liquor/day
@@stuartnewman7068 you know him too?! JC!
Relatable
can we just appreciate richie rich saying "it's very 90s" in the 90s lmao
No
No
he was in the future already
Most underrated comment here
This definitely deserves a Where Are they Now
Wow! I don't think there's another club kid video out there with as many clear and close-up shots of Angel. Really nice to see him looking happy and R.I.P. of course❤️
Agreed!
if you think that drug dealing is not evil then you are the one with the problem here .
Not a real argument ? Because you think "I don't see someone drug dealing as evil. " is argumentative ?
KIds are gullible , you buy crap everyday , because you think this is good for you , and you do not even blame the seller and publicists who use all the tricks in the box to sell it to you . Teenagers are the easiest people to influence , you can make them do anything you want as long as you make them believe this is in their best interest . Buy drugs, it's cool, buy drugs, people will love you and want to be with you, buy drugs or you'll be an outcast and will have no social life, try drugs and all your problems will go away , especially your teenage existentialist crisis , do drugs and you will be the talk of the town and the most popular person around . No Hugger , this is MOST CERTAINLY NOT a consensual agreement , this is one person influencing another one into doing something under false pretexts and made believe hopes . This is selling an illusion that will eventually destroy the life of the person using the drugs and make the one selling them only richer . Ask yourself the question, why do people buy something, that is an absolute poison for their system . Would go buy some rat poison and eat it ? LSD and heroin are worse than rat poison . So i am not buying one piece of the consensual agreement , argument . And you should know better than that yourself, unless you are a teenager .
He sold something that he knows is going to fuck up the life of the people buying it , and yet had no scruples selling it and didn't feel bad for a second for what he was doing as long as he makes a buck out of it . I would call that the very definition of evil. This is exactly what rich nations do to third world nation on daily basis , and the third world nations buy it because they are told that this is in their best interest , in order to get a share of the big cake , when in the end, this is just the hand of the farmer feeding the animals until they are big enough to be taken to the slaughter house, Until the last minute the animal believes it is being taken care of and loves the farmer . This is exactly the same thing .
Most teenager live under a rock, and I do not blame anybody but the dealers . So called danger ? You make it sound as if the danger part of those drugs was unsubstantiated . How old are you Hugger ?
Rat poison can make you euphoric if you take it in small quantity , that's why i chose that example . And tree hugger, do not give me a lecture on the medical use of drug , i am both an MD and a Vet and have been working for the UN treating people and animals for the past 15 years . So, tree hugger let's say that when you have three PhD in the medical field (the third one being neuroscience and biology, so you imagine easily how well aware i am of the effect of drugs on the system and their medical use) . then and only then, can you give me a lecture, because right now , you are not telling me anything i haven't studied already 20 years ago .
"It's only when you start abusing drugs that things could go south, " yes i am also very well aware of that (is that your professional medical opinion ? And this is precisely why drugs administrated in a medical environment (hospital, clinic , home by actual docs, which are the only places and way drugs should be used) are so highly supervised , because of their addictive properties .
What exactly do you mean by "that's fully on you" ?
Also before we further this discussion , as i feel very awkward talking to a tree hugger , i would appreciate to know your name just the first name is enough and also your age and profession , just to figure out who i am discussing with. You understand of course . I am Kyllian , born in Arizona , raised mostly in Europe (borading school in Switzerland) , part Icelandic (father) part British (mother) , i gave up my american citizenship a long time ag. , As i said i'm a Vet and an MD though i mostly work as a vet today (at my partner and I's clinic) and for the WAP which is a branch of the UN based in London , I am 43 years old , living bith in Zurich Switzerland where our clinic is, and London , married to another vet, a japanese man, and father of three adopted teens .
How about yourself ?
Geraldo is obsessed with club kids
No doubt he got a chubby having the pretty boys so close.
listen up kids. Geraldo was one of the original trolls
Gerardo is a closeted gay man
Ikr
Michael is the most normal looking dude up there
I’ve had Party Monster on dvd since 2006. I randomly bought it when I saw Macaulay culkin on the cover and it’s in my top 10 fave movies of all time. WHO else loved this movie??! Seth Green is absolutely phenomenal in this! He’s unrecognizable and I think the only time you see his true acting chops.
SAME! Macaulay Culkin and Seth Green killed it in that movie! If you haven’t read James St. James’ memoir titled ‘Disco Bloodbath: A Fabulous but True Tale of Murder in Clubland’, I highly recommend it! (I believe the book was actually retitled ‘Party Monster’ after the movie was released in 2003)
Yesss!!! If you haven't seen the documentary "Glory Daze", that is another must see. I love that they actually got a lot of the top club kids, as adults, to reminisce about their time in the 90s and it also talks about Angel's murder, following Michael's release from prison. I often wonder if they ever thought about making another, since Michael's passing. Also, if you love Party Monster the movie, and haven't seen it, Party Monster The Shockumentary, is something you definitely have to watch. I actually found it, in its entirety, here on youtube. It's about an hour long and it is interesting. After seeing it, I now realize where a lot of scenes from the movie came from. I don't care what anyone says, I think Macaulay and Seth, nailed their roles! If you don't know, there are also little scenes in the movie that were taken right from the Shockumentary and have some of the real club kids. Ernie Glam and Richie Rich are the 2 that stand out the most off the top of my head. Anyway, you should check them out!
@@jentemp1 oh man YES I’m looking into those for sure! Is the first one you mentioned online?
@@oreospeedwagon3708 awesome thanks!
@@manda_musings8459 Party Monster the Shockumentary is actually here on UA-cam. I think I have it on one of my playlists but not sure if it's public or private. I found it on here though. Then the other one, "Glory Daze the Life and Times of Michael Alig", I know is on Prime Video, but I think only for rent or purchase. I'll have to do some digging and see if I can find it free anywhere. I know some one uploaded it on UA-cam a while back but I think its since been removed.
Who’s here after Michael’s overdose?
only because I had forgotten the fuckery that was party monster from many years ago and I look forward to forgetting all about that asshole again.
I just came to see Angel. Looking fucking stunning as always.
@@phr33k44 pfft hardly. Looks like a moron.
Me!! Along the way, I discover Desmond is Amazing. He was a 10 y/o club kid that Micheal Alig was promoting. Odd!
Finally!!!!!!!!
Seeing Michael and Angel together on the same show is sick and errie at the same time!
Alig was a psychopath
Why ? Did something happen btween the 2 of them?
L T Michael killed angel
@@Star-zf8bp 😯😯 NOOOO i cant believe it. Whyyyyyyyy
Bc Angel attacked him in his own home and Freeze hit angel over the head to get him off Michael.
from this point of view the 90s look like another universe
it was
you just aren't aware of the stuff going on now
It was.
It looks like 2022. For today, it’s not weird at all which is so weird.
@@angel-gu8co What Face Book, Instagram? There is nothing now. One night, I walked into the Tunnel Nigh Club and it was like walking into a living cartoon.
This mom seems so supportive over her daughters.. I grew up as a teen in era.. it wasn’t that easy coming out as trans or gay.
Such an absolutely UNHINGED era of daytime television 😂
Absolutely! I stayed home once in middle school and was watching Jenny Jones when my cousin on my dads side (we didn’t see them much) popped up in the audience with a 2 foot Mohawk dyed bright green. She spoke in the audience. The show was about runaways. It was wild
talk shows were a mess back in the 90s
@@ydennek856 such a mess!
@@ydennek856they were the best
Watching Geraldo get beat by Nahtzi lowr7ders and Nahtzi lowr7ders getting beaten by Black Panthers was the best
Sad that Michael Alig is free and Angel is dead
I know alot of drug dealers that are still alive and murderers that are dead if that makes u feel better..
YES! It disgust me! I am very much against Plea deals, especially for Murder & Torture!!!!
live by the sword. die by the sword.
It's disturbing! He should be in prison for life!
@@icecreamcowboyz9466 Lmao, truuuth.
Geraldo is the UA-cam comment section of the 90s...
The Scientist Werewolf he's very mild compared to his first club kid interview , he was an incredible asshole in the first one.
The 'what is the world coming to' conments reek of condenscending homophobia and general stickuphisassness
@@cuppachar201 It's no wonder you never hear from him anynore
@@cuppachar201 I didn’t take it as such. They come out on drugs, parading around in outfits that make the circus look mild, and this man who is actually passionate about real journalism is being told by his producers he has to have an hour long conversation with the bunch. He’s probably beside himself trying to figure out what the hell to talk about when they have no real aim, or focus in life, and 90% of the population - his viewers- (especially in the 90’s)- couldn’t relate to a single bit of their degenerate lifestyles. It degraded his journalistic integrity. If I had worked my ass off to get where he was I’d be saying “What is this world coming to” too. Even now in 2020 with the freak parades on display everywhere (likely thanks to shows like this) this is painful to watch.
LMFAO
Did anyone notice Alig correcting the female audience member telling her it’s “asking” not “axing” and “axing is what an ax murderer does” damn he’d know
Yes..horrifying foreshadowing... makes me nauseous..
Probably because it was always part of his fantasy
Why would nit be foreshadowing@@ddl4374 unless there was an axe someplace in the story? There's no axe. Maybe because the audience member butchered the English language, that's foreshadowing, too?
the kids were so defensive about the drug aspect but their "leader" actually dismembered someone for heroin
nooo he dismembered him waaaaaaay after that
ON heroin not FOR heroin
Angel the Coke Dealer.. rip!
Angel was the last image of the show, winking goodbye.
😯
"44:16 the closing shot is wordless Angel winking at us B-) " . . . . Bravo T S , i had not seen your comment until after i'd made the same observation a year later. Michael's death got me reading wikipedia and even "buying into " his roommate/co-defendant's account of taking a hammer to Angel's head while Angel was throttling Michael's neck and threatening to snap it if Michael didn't pay off an old drug debt . . . presumably the financial pressure had been invigorated by Angel having been dismissed from the club where he worked and sold drugs because authorities were charging the club owner for condoning drug sales at his establishment. people + drugs + law enforcement creates quite the snake eating its own tail ! ;-)
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jesus I didn't watch until the very end, YOU'RE RIGHT 😮 that's so bizarre....
richie rich looks like cynthia (angelicas doll) from rugrats in this video lolll
Oyster Smiling 😂 yes he does
Richie Rich is a Famous & rich designer and in the record biz!
Or does Cynthia look like Richie Rich??
#facts
@cristal 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣💀⚰️🪦
Geraldo is just much a freak as them. He was on the island as well.
This whole thing is just centered around geraldo's secret gayness
Right🤔😂😂
'secret gayness' LMAO
I got that same vibe less than a minute into the video 🤣🤣🤣
Because its true
It’s not a secret. 😂👸🏾
Michael Alig was probably camoflaging his actual bruises and track marks.
yup
He wasn't using heroin yet here💁♀️
damselcausingdistress 81 sure. That’s why he brought his dealer with him to the show 🙄
Edgar Allen Pwned um Angel wasn’t Michaels personal dealer and only his dealer. They all hung out together prior to the murder.
Leslie Sauceman his track marks are on his forehead? I don’t see make up on his /rolled up sleeves\
that guy who had the makeover looked like he was having an absolute blast
His wife however, do not. He did looks like he might enjoy some Cross dressing. He looks fabulous like the others.
i'm guessing his marriage didn't last too long after this
MartianTacos his wife was like seriously lol
Seriously , look at its face he looks like he's put on drag makeup before... oh wow here's an idea let's turn out a straight man on television ,yay... the only problem is that's not a straight man... TV people
He probably burned out. Trashy lifestyle.
Angel was adorable 💕 it's 😔 so sad that he was taken away too soon.
Taken away by his "friend." What a pity.
@@jeffreybrandes881 Yes. Its amazing how people will claim to be your friend when all the while they really don't like you. 😔 It took me a while but I began to see that with the friends that I had from my childhood. I finally gave up on those fake friendships.
@@jeffreybrandes881 Why does everyone forget he was a heroin dealer? :D
@@thatsnotmyname7462 He may have been a dealer, but murder is muuder.
@@jeffreybrandes881 Heroin dealers kill people too. If you want to be a drug dealer you have to expect an environment that's not friendly and it's not rare that they get killed. I'm not saying I agree with his murder, but making him the good guy seems weird. I would never sell heroin in my life, because it makes people die and ruin their lives, and no one who is capable of selling it is not a good person.
Sort of ironic that Richie Rich went on to become a celebrated clothing designer and nobody knows who the hell Rachel Fisk is.
She was still correct
Richie is giving me Cynthia (of Rugrats) realness! 😂😂😂
Isn't it ironic that Angel is in there with his two murderers?
Sarah F. Clark where’s freeze??
How is that ironic? They were all “friends” why wouldn’t he be there?
Which one is Angel?
@@alphaphotoandvideo At 1:35
@@nywvblue he was so young😪
it's so sad how invasive and rude they are to the transgender girl. it must've not been easy to be herself back then. at least she has a great family
stay in your bubble and never have kids bro. you'd be a toxic parent for anyone who tries to think for themselves and questions society
How did I not know that alig and Angel appeared together on the same national stage. I really was shocked when I saw Angel.
Alig wrecked the club kid era like manson wrecked the hippy scene.
Alig created the Club Kids. The scene died when Alig went to prison for chopping his friends body up and dumping it into the Hudson...
Manson wrecked nothing. He was a great man who was a scapegoat
This comment makes no sense
@@marcfioretti7430 lmao you're a nut job.
@divina6 Oh no he wasn't talking about Marilyn Manson who by the way, wasn't even a Goth, he was Rivethead/Shock Rocker (the industrial scene of the 1990s, that was mainstream at the time while Goth was underground) but the comment you were replying to, he was talking about Charles Manson and his crazy cult.
With no sarcasm meant at all- I would love to know what happened to Tiny and her baby and family. I hope they are all happy and doing well!
I was trying to find Tiny IG my damn self. I have a feeling he living his life as a man now.
they probably arent
chinafakeeggs No, it isn't. If the person getting the 15 year old girl pregnant was 18 or older, then yeah, but Tiny was also underage.
williamgatesenson By your comment, it’s pretty obvious that you’re projecting your actions onto others. Sad. Though like you said, it’s ok. It’s ok, because it is so blatant to others as to what you are doing.
@The Joy of Painting with Raven Williams I do
Wow. Angel in the thumbnail. What balls of Alig to have brought his dealer on the show. How creepy that the murderer and his victim are sharing the stage at all like this. So morbidly fascinating
which one is the drug dealer?
The guy in the red wings watch party monsters with Seth green and Macaulay Culkin not dead on but it's the basics
Why does it show 'balls" and why would you think Alig chose who was on the show? Did he choose the lesbian/tranny preggo act? No, those people were not in the scene. PRODUCERS choose who will be on the show and chose a guy with giant red wings. Angel wasn't just Michael's dealer, he was the primary dealer within the club scene unless you count Lord Michael (Google Wu Tang Clan, no relation to Alig) who was funneling all the X.
That computer programmer was having a blast as queen of the night
Sure looked like it!
Haha Geraldo keeps speaking Spanish to that lady even though she's answering in English.
he's the fakest hispanic ever...his racist, self hating ass.
he fought nazis hes cool
Geraldo licks nazi's assholes.
Lmao right??
hperkins757 right? Why lol
guy in pink flower bra started i woke up like this. beyonce wasnt even relevant then.
Beyonce got her inspiration from them.
If you are talking about Miss Understood, he is turned his business into a massive money maker!!!
cause i woke up like this was a saying loooooooong before beyonce
Beyonce was barely born then lol
She still isn't.
I googled club kids a few days ago after I saw a cool "my best club kid look" tiktok wondering what they were. Now I'm watching this video with a glamorous, mysterious, 90s nightlife kingpin - like a cult leader in many ways - surrounded by his loyal and equally glamorous club kids. At his peak he was probably one of the coolest people on the planet, a leader in the NYC nightlife, creating a movement, and leaving a mark on the fashion world forever. It's all so fascinating and compelling I've caught myself momentarily forgetting that he fell into addiction then brutally murdered his friend and dismembered the body.
And here in this video is the kingpin, the victim, and the very 1994 Geraldo rushing through the audience member's answers as if he's being told each answer can only be 4 seconds long then he has to make a stupid underhanded joke at their expense then rush on to his next victim.
What the fuck bro this is probably a top 5 all time video find for me. 90s daytime TV true crime fever dream eleganza, 5/5 stars. RIP Angel, my heart goes out to his family.
Ele-Gaannnnzzaaaaa
Watching Geraldo get his giant tribal honker bashed in was the best
You forgot RIP Michael. It takes two to tango, and that's coming from someone who actually knew both of them and was part of the scene. So RIP Angel and RIP Alig.
You can’t denied that they influence pop culture totally
yes our own generation´s pop culture thanks
Who influences pop culture exactly?
They didn't.
Tiny is now Cardi B.
Bwahahaa
😂😂😂
Oh lord i died laughing
Underrated comment
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
21:17 "I woke up like this" omg I never knew this phrase was so old!
So many looks and phrases are vintage its hilarious:)
Every generation thinks they're the first to do everything wild, but its just a form of immaturity without it even being realised. Some may be a bit different, but basically its kids being kids in their ways during certain ages in life. Eventually, everyone grows up or changes and if they don't its often not a pretty sight to see or sad. Theres a reason people mature and become responsible and don't act like they're 18 to 21 forever.
You have to be kidding.....
lets not forget Angel was a heroin dealer amongst other not so angelic hobbies. He didn't deserve to die of course, but he insisted on being in that circle and used drugs to leverage his way in as a poser. I make the point as the reality of the situation seems to be convoluted with so many comments painting Alig as unprovoked and Angel not voluntarily participating in a dangerous way of living.
It’s crazy how weird the idea of club kids were to the 90s people. Lol fast forward to 2019 and people don’t even bat an eye.
Richie Rich said SHADY in 1994. Truly an Icon.
shady has been around since the ballroom years of the 80s, way beyond Drag race
Lmao shade has been around, please children look up ballroom, Paris is burning, the queen etc
A lot of what is common parlance now has been said in queer circles for decades, you normies are just catching up.
The ballroom scene had been saying it since the 70s….
@@Oxymoricwtf is ballroom
"I don't know... I don't know, but.. I don't know" - Princess Botanical
Omg she was like "you know like you know, I mean like, I mean like you know like"
Princess Botanical was a chick I dated. Such a sad lady, but fun.
@@DAVINOENTERPRISES that’s pretty fascinating! I was in awe with her
I really wish we can interview them now
crazy seeing michael and angel together.
lmao whyd he keep speaking spanish when she was answering in english...
No se
Tryin 2 show off
Ha
Lmao u sound racist
bcause some spanish ppl like to answer in english. Also, geraldo clearly doesnt speak spanish everyday
"Be an original because nobody likes a copy."
Kinda creepy that his face was the very last image on that show😱
I watched this when it first aired on TV. I knew Michael, Earl, Angel, Ritchie and Keoki. I miss them so much. RIP to Michael and Angel. And any others who may have passed that I don't know about, or didn't know.
weird!! geraldo asking michael about his bruises and the camera cutting to angel at 3:12
guilloponko I know it gave me chills
So fugging weird, I agree!
They knew they were going to sacrifice Angel!
That was awesome. The blood red wings are perfect.
Prissy Lissy 1:20 onwards is a good shot. He shows off his costume.
Angel's outfit is almost eerily prophetic
Freeze, thr dude who hit angel in the head with a hammer, used to dress like the devil. Spooky
@@ThatFilmisGnarly SO NOT TRUE!!!! Maybe here or there, but well dressed and it was never proven or a fact that he did the hammer! Watched that loser's movie?
@@robertocampano2089 he liked to dress in satanic imagery. This is fact.
forever80sblog.com/2017/06/13/what-happened-to-robert-freeze-riggs/
well it's the basic go to dress up
Not really. His name is Angel.
Tiny is now known as Jennifer Lopez
😆
Just tried to Google Rachel Fisk to see her modeling career and nothing showed up . . . Yet if I look up most of these Club Kids I find countless photos of them in the clubs. So, who really was getting booked?
Lol idk why she talked all that game like where is she now? She was pissing me off so much
You can really, really see the difference in Micheal from the 92 Geraldo interview and this 94 one.
Wow I just went back to that video for that reason and yes U CAN SEE IF U KNOW U CAN SEE IT
yeah. this made me think of his mother and the weird look she had, maybe being "too okay" with his drug use etc has left him in total disarray. idk if it was "good faith" or in their dynamic he simply held all the power. you gotta be a strong woman to have a son like this, he seems to have a very VERY strong personality who can be made even more difficult to deal with when you throw drugs into the mix. she probably had no saying at all. but seeing this dynamic too makes it even more weird and interesting
Its called HEROIN. Which he was obtaining from Angel. Prior to all this, heroin had no place in the club scene. None. We were strictly coke, Ketamine (you're welcome) and X. Once heroin came on like an invasive species, it was a matter of time until junkie type sheet happened. And it did.
Michael is out of prison hanging out with Desmond is Amazing, an 11 year old drag kid. That’s scary.
Tieia Middleton Desmond’s mom was a fan of Michael I believe
Michael’s not just “hangin out” with an 11 year old kid. His mother lets him do drag and he happens to be inspired by the club kid era of drag. Desmond appeared on Michael and Ernie’s UA-cam show a couple of times and they just talked about fashion and inspiration. His mother was present the entire time. (I’m not saying Michael was right for murdering Angel, but that doesn’t make him a total creep pedophile who likes to hang out with kids. He’s simply just passing the fashion torch down.)
Michael is merely trying to be relevant again (that is, if he ever was), and it's not working. It's creepy.
Hey liberals accept that so deal with it
changolini people used to just accept slavery but it didn’t make it right
Michael Alig is so low vibrating. He loves darkness.
@@austins.2495 basically.
He's a murderer
Michael Alig is dead now from a drug overdose. I'm guessing he's probably not in a good place but I can't judge.
He was a Party monster.
He's likely exhausted from entertaining thousands of club goers a few hours beforehand, and working a full day in the office before that. He might even be high, since Angel was dealing him heroin at this time. But go ahead, call it "loving darkness".
I love club kids..
Its art to me!
If you consider GARBAGE ART
Watched alig deteriorate from eccentric into masochistic and snide...geraldo just casually watching the darkness take over
Rachel wanted to talk for like 5 minutes straight but wouldn't let anyone else talk for more than 30 seconds
The 15 and 19 year olds baby is now 25!
"The cutting edge of love held in the Lorena Bobbit room"
I see the club kids like Dad jokes
I wonder if that computer programmer ended up coming out later in life.
Thank you so much for uploading this footage :)
Geraldo “Accident victim drug addict”
I laughed so loud at that! What a time!
He didn’t know how prophetic that was 😅😁
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT RU PAUL WOULD BE A MILLIONAIRE NOW !! SHE WAS VERY YOUNG AT THIS POINT !!
How in the hell did he have his own show? Such horrible interviewer
I feel from his lack of humanity and blatant large amount of bigotry, he should be imprisoned (that has happened to people of difference).
that was the 90 style of interviewing.
@@autolightlanguagechrystall9632 no it wasn't...look at Joan Rivers. It was the 90's bigot style of interviewing. And you were just gullible...
@@duffman102 you are just assuming things about a person you don't even know. We didn't get Joan Rivers here in Holland. We got the trash shows and that's what I based my comment on. I forgive you for trying to look like you are better then me.
He was a great interviewer in the beginning. Geraldo would expose the government and botched police work. He spoke about serial killer Jeffery Dahmer and gave insider information about a white man who visited Dahmer on several occasions while he was actively killing Black men. He spoke about the Challenger accident and how the astronauts were left in the ocean for hours when they were probably ALIVE. This video seems silly but Michael Alig has been convicted of murder and has been released. Now Michael Alig has been seen with a child Desmond Is Amazing a little boy who decided to dress in trans style because his mother liked Ruepaul. The little boy Desmond has been seen in strip clubs taking off a little and getting paid by gay men. He imitated snorting ketamine and has acted confused on film. He told his mother that he was afraid of being murdered. It's sad actually. A little boy wanting attention by his MOTHER is now being paraded as a voice of transchildren.
It's weird to see Angel there knowing what a horrible death he suffered at the hands of Alig and his friend. Very tragic and sick.
He wanted to wear wings all the time. Sometimes we should be careful. Straight up
We used to beg our parents for those amazing shoes growing up! We would see them in the stores around Baltimore City where I am from and still live. I was born in 1985 so I only got to watch and admire them! Before the internet we had to actually dig and research the people and subcultures we were interested in! #AstroEarl always and still has some of the best outfits!
85 baby here also!!! Aug 20th!!
Omg😬😑
I wonder if anyone noticed that the longer the Club Kids thing went on the more extreme their behavior became. Everything they did oozed addiction, superficiality, and emptiness.
Whatever you say.
much like the club the guinness girls were a part of - “shining young people” or something. people who live in excess like that, lifestyles like that, are there for a reason. they have the right combination of charisma and narcissism to make any room THEIR room, any chair their throne, any audience charmed. unfortunately spontaneity like that requires constant combustion to stay alive which always leads to a huge mess in the end
lifestyles like these don't sustain very long...... while i acknowledge they're a huge part of lgbt history, i don't condone or glorify any of the shit they do besides dressing up. with hedonism as a central part of your life you're bound to crack soon
Great video quality for a 1994 recording.
Haha what. This looks like a VHS copy. Around half the resolution or 25% of what the broadcast tape had. 1994 wasn’t that long ago, you know...
@@777jonesYounger generations don't realize that 1st Gen analog video in the 90's actually looked pretty good, but much of what is now passed around is sourced from consumer VHS recordings.
Who's here after Michael Alig's death? 😳
Ugh wow seeing the cut of Angel at 3:11 gave me goosebumps. Michael and all these people could have done something amazing with their lives, could have became club kid elders and taught new generations about fashion and support for the lgbtq, Michael and his friends had so much potential and instead a life was lost and many other lives ruined. I wish these kids with special talents never have to feel so rejected from society that they start using heavy drugs like they did. It's such a sad story
A crime occurred. Angel lost his life. Michael went to prison. But not sure why that makes the club kids story less amazing. It's sad, but doesn't erase the years of inspired creativity that this movement brought into the world. Were you there? Does not sound like you were. Angel was a good guy and my downstairs neighbor but hard drugs like heroin don't just affect users. Sometimes they affect the people selling the heroin.
Richie Rich is actually very successful
from the 90's to 92 to 94 geraldo Michaels looks get worse...you can see the downhill spiral. Even in his maner and comments. More abrasive.
@Estrella Felina he doesn't tho... Just because some wannabe Alex Jones said it, doesn't mean it's true...
Estrella Felina oh , it was on the internet so it must be factual...
man richie really wasnt a bad kid. he really wants to standup for him and his friends and hes trying to hammer that whole "self acceptance" message that wasnt so popular in the 80s.
@Estrella Felina you have schizophrenia. The devil doesn't exist.
I WILL LOVE #RichieRich until the end of time!
These people talk so much about how they do what they do because they want to be "themselves" and be in a place where they all can love and accept each other blah blah blah. But at the end of the day they are mostly awful people who hurt each other. Everything they were doing was solely for the purpose of getting attention. All the goofy outfits/makeup wasn't them expressing themselves. It was just an abrasive act to get attention. If people reacted positively to them, they won. If they reacted negatively to them, they still won because now they get to fight back and pretend they are champions of the LGBTQ community. At the end of the day, it was just a bunch of dumb boring people who wanted attention, so they did what they had to do to get it. All they needed was a reaction from the people around them, and you people gave it to them.
@@JasonEllingsworth i guess that was the point tho
"trying to _hammer"_ might have been an unfortunate choice of words... 🤔 🤷♂️
I remember this show... I was 20, unemployed.. nice and toasted. generation Xer...
Haha Same lol
if this is 94 I was 24 worked partied did what I wanted
bar scene
house party
no shit like this
Michael and Geraldo are the only ones with bad vibes
funny how when the black girl went off on Tiny , Tiny made fun of her saying "it's Asking NOT axing " and then Michael is like axing is what an axe murderer does .
that girl was a phobic MESS
Lirielle / foamia Seriously! "Man, woman, well man.." Jesus, that was so horrible!
disgraceful, got her five seconds of fame...
creepy that Michael was gonna be 'axing' Angel later on, he probably had tendencies of killing with his vocabulary
Damian Griego-Hernandez She was. These talk shows always had actors planted in the audience to ask certain questions or say certain things to be provocative.
Princess Botanikle taught me that there is no limit to the amount of "I mean" and "like" a human being can say.
Like, I know, right
Bruh you could tell she was like depressed or something. She looked slumped
@@pparalaxx3014 she seems so shy, too. They were kind of picking on her.
@@SunBunz it’s called cognitive dissonance
My ex girlfriend
i'm creeped out by the woman who's with tiny... isn't that getting with a minor???
Did it say how old the woman was.?
@@JNB520 19
It's child abuse. That kid is 15 🤮
At 19, I’d be embarrassed to tell anyone that baby daddy was 15. He can’t work. He can’t even drive. I’d love to know how that family turned out. Especially the kid…what a joke.
Alig dismembered a man and was treated like a celeb after being released from prison.
An OD couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
I remember watching this the day it aired. Time flies. I was 14 then.
So u are 39 now?
I was 23 days
I’m short pressed For a name wish we could’ve switched spots, I wish I could’ve lived through this time. I’m 16🤣
i was 17 and was doing my own thing i didn't give a shit about anyone else life but mine lol.. i was hardly home to watch TV
J F 38. I’ll be 39 in August.
I hate it how they mention the drugs, sex, and scandals when that goes on in EVERY club!!
PREACH
fernanda capaceta to be honest it had a lot to do with drug tho , things wouldn't have been as extreme as it was if they weren't completely roasted outta they're minds. I mean have you watched or read interviews, documentaries, ect ?
Why should it not be mentioned?.. DRUGS took over and RUINED EVERYTHING !
@@ddl4374 And killed a bunch of them!
To angel: wishing you are flying in peace and bliss. I miss your smile .
Where are the club kids now? How old is the baby? There should be an update.
Idk about all of them but some of them are quite successful! Richie Rich for example has done multiple albums, movies and had one of the most successful brands of the 2000's with heatherette! He's still a designer although he's not that much in the spotlight these days.
Computer guy's marriage is a sham. Lol
7:00 "Do they [your parents] fertilize your face?"
Dude....
1994: I was a hoodlum from Queens going to Limelight, Club USA, The Tunnel, Palladium, and the OG Sound Factory with my boys
2023: Deirdre from the panel on this show, is my closest friend. She has had, and continues to have an amazing career in modeling, fashion, and interior design.
Thanks for the update. Hope all is well & Happy New Year🎉
Happy New Year!! @@LaPetite510
Did she ever get the surgery? Her baby is grown now !
SO GOOD TO SEE “ANGEL” AGAIN WITH HIS BEAUTIFUL BIG WINGS - BLAST FROM MY PAST - SO MANY NIGHTS IN THE TUNNEL... THE KENNY SHARF ROOM, LIMELIGHT, TWILO, THE ROARING 90’s WERE THE BEST!!!
the 90s in my world were very difernt and I wouldnt change a thing fucking damn glad I didn't grow up on east or west coast
I'm ROCK n ROLL
alternative
heavy metal
blues
hip hop
big cars big trucks
horses
boats open rivers open road no big tall bldgs
RIP Angel 💔💔💔💔
He was a fucking drug dealer
+ drug dealers don't deserve to rest in peace? bitchplease
Morgan Olfursson so he deserved to be murdered????
No he did not deserve to be murdered , but only because i am against dead penalty . But i am completely for the Talion law . If angel had the axe or a gun he might have killed michael . Junkies get killed on a daily basis by their dealers when they can 't pay and it never makes first page , and nobody gives a fuck about it, so when the junkie kills the dealer i really don't see how this should be a tragedy . I am neither a junkie nor a dealer . Don't get me wrong i am not a saint either , i did use drugs recreatively when i was young and stupid and i can even indulge in a spliff every now and then if i feel like it on holiday (but it is grown locally by friends who run a vegan organic farm and wouldn't hurt a fly) . But i have three kids , 3 teens and they get approached by dealers and because they are smart they report it to me . And one day they got approached by a scumbag who dared putting his hand on one of my daughter (and i just mean putting his filthy hands on her shoulder ) so i went to see where this happened to see whom she was approached by . (just for the record i have over 20 years of Krav Maga and Boxing behind me plus 5 years of L.I.N.E) . I found the guy (i don't rely on the police for this kind of shit, they won't move a fucking finger unless someone gets shot or raped ), this pile of shit of a man didn't owe me anything and i didn't owe him anything , and yet when i was holding his neck in my hands to give him a good scare about never fucking getting close to my daughters or anybody around here ever again , it is only common sense and basic decency toward another living thing that stopped be from snapping his neck and do the fucking neighborhood a favor . If i had been high on E or C or K or whatever Michael was high on that day , i think i could have made carpaccio of a dealer with an axe . But at the end of the day the drug business at its roots is one of the dirtiest and most disgusting business (after the animal trade) and is responsible for the death and exploitation , abuse, extortion , corruption and intimidation of millions of people around the world (and i am talking about the kids and teen like mine, or elderly, in third world nations who are used and exploited against their will for this business and treated like absolute crap when they are not shot the second they rebel or threaten to leave) . So i have neither any form of respect for dealers in our so called developed societies nor for the users of those drugs . Personally whether angel killed michael or michael killed angel i couldn't fucking care less , but i am never fucking gonna believe that the loss of a fucking dealer is a (forgive the pun) big deal . He was a piece of shit when he was alive , he is still a piece of shit now that he rots . If anything , his death probably spared the life of other teens or kids who , thanks to it, were never approached by him .
So no he didn't deserve to die, but i am glad he did. That's called karma .
He deserves to rest in piss .
Every time someone talks about how it's not about drugs he immediately goes to someone with the "craziest" outfit and gets them to talk to get the audience to laugh or not believe there aren't drugs. It's quite frustrating
OLolaLola First of all, terms like "snowflake" or "triggered" are thrown around way too liberally, and are generally used by people who lack the ability to articulate a viewpoint. Also, you're implying that the op is being overly sensitive when the criticism was actually quite valid. Talk shows back in the 90's were consistently criticized for being overly sensationalized and manipulative in their presentation of topics. Geraldo was infamous for being one of the worst offenders.
Hali Marlow lets be honest tho it's 85% about the drugs the rest is music and dancing .
@@Digital_Ghost_ - They always tried to manipulate the guests. Anything for ratings.
Digital Ghost you are so wonderfully spoken (written). So true.
@@Digital_Ghost_ geraldo was the main catalyst for the 'satanic panic' in those days. The guy is a tool.
3:05 Omg, Alig speaking of the bruises on his neck complete with close-ups by the camera, then the shot to Angel. What we are witnessing here, people, is a beautiful flowering of evil, in the most terrible way possible.
Wow 😮
44:16 the closing shot is wordless Angel winking at us B-)
I didn't notice until you pointed that out. I hope it's symbolic of him being ok and at peace 🙏💖
@@charlotte_stevens me too 😢😢
So happy we have the internet because this was my youth. I was sophomore in high school working at a music store and finally in 1996 I made my way into the last bits of this and the goth scene. It was a fun expressive time. I made it out many didn't.
Crazy to see angel alive right here though. Wow!!!!!!!!!!! Sad and intriguing.
So sad
GOOD TO SEE ANGEL WITH HIS WINGS ON!!! Seeing him put a smile on my face and in my heart (Michael Alig not so much)
I remember all this. I was a junior in high school. We use to do raves but this kinda slowed things down. R.I.P Angel.
Awww,,Is that the real Angel.....
kym rhymer yes. :(
kym rhymer yes :(
It was so different in 89, things got so crazy after that.
I wrote to Michael when he was in prison. He used to write back, but never really had much to say, except about his book he was writing. We did have a laugh about Peter Gations and Michael Alig(s) names creating Allegations .
I feel old. I recognize more than half of these people
I'd love to know what they're all up to now. A then-and-now show would be great.