You say you didn't do this and that yet you claim you were so drugged out that when you murdered and dismembered Angel you couldn't remember that. Yet you remember everything else pretty clearly.
He doesn't need to do some "research". I've seen more than 1 video Of Michael Alig stating he was so drugged out at that time he can't remember alot of stuff including the murder. It's pretty convenient he can remember things that make him look bad and then say it's not true. Facts are facts.
no, he's got it right on the money. The only research that needs to be done is on your end. Read ALL the information out there and you will learn that Michael did not do this in self defense. He killed Angel and then took all his drugs and money and split among the three of them. Yes the three of them. YOU probably didn't even know there were three people there besides Angel. 18,000 dollars and 8 bundles of dope. He knew what he was doing.
I could careless about the tea, drano or coffee table. I'm more disturbed by the fact that you chopped another human being up. There are infact millions of addicts who don't murder and dismember other people. You also referencing to Transformations all snarky just makes you come off as a whiny little self entitled school boy. Why they let you out of prison I'll never know. My heart goes out to Angels family and friends. Rest in Peace.
You may be right. But I feel like Michael just has a really bubbly personality and tries to always come off happy. I'm sure he hasn't always been happy considering how his life has gone. I always question why he killed someone and then followed that by dismembering the body, but I think honestly he was just not in his right mind. I think the drugs had him so wound up in his own little world that when he killed angel he was like "oh no I can't get caught because I need drugs" and so he just did what he thought he had to do to cover it up. He did say it was a relief when the cops arrested him though. This is just one way to view it though. Honestly, either way its so wrong. I think Michael has to know that. But honestly maybe he is just a self absorbed psychopath. There's no way to truly know what he thinks.
I respect your caring and sympathetic spirit byt there are literally millions upon millions of drug addicts that go through life without chopping another human being up. The things that where done to Angel to kill him are so disturbing and frightening and then to dissmember him! yikes. Either way my heart goes out to everyone who loved Angel. He's the REAL victim in all of this and I think people sometimes lose sight of that because of thrJames/Michael Chronicles and their larger than life personalities.
I just wish that both of them would just TELL THE TRUTH, no matter how unglamorous or "boring" the truth is. I am referring to BOTH Michael Alig, and to James St. James. They both know the truth of what happened during their lives, and experiences, and I would just like to know that truth, without all of the bullshit.
Would love to see more of the Nelson Sullivan videos. Must of seen everyone at least twice. So ahead of his time. His last video on July 3 89 is so haunting. A fine southern gentleman had the sense to capture an amazing time in history. Rest easy my friend. You still live among your fans.
Nelson Sullivan is one person I had really have loved to have met ❗❤❤ He was so smart to document the Club Kids, the nightlife and even them going out to eat late nights. There truly needs to be a true story edited from all of his videos. He was a wonderful and kind southern gentleman.
I can't even count how many times I have watched all of the videos. I still can't quite understand my fascination with Nelson or his videos. I really wish I had known Nelson, he seemed like such a gentleman as well as a gentle man. Just out of the blue one day I will start thinking about him and I find myself going through the videos again. I find it so interesting that Michael Musto is still relevant today.
He speaks of these events like he's talking about a camping trip with friends. I don't expect him to self-flagellate every second of every day, but everything out of this convicted killer's mouth seems like self-righteous narcissism. He has not expressed one shred of honest remorse about what he did, and his profiting from his notoriety. Had he not been sent to prison, Michael Alig would either be dead or a has-been junkie no one cares about or talks about. I understand my opinion doesn't matter to most people, and I am fine with that. But Michael, if you truly are remorseful for what you did, you should be sharing part of everything you make with the Melendez family. As "fabulous" as you thought you were in another life, the majority of people who know who you are now would have no clue who you were if you didn't commit this horrible crime. You ruined a family, and that family has a right to be compensated for anything your notoriety has netted you. I am not assuming that you are making bank, but even if it's a dime they deserve at least a nickel of it. He has been forthcoming on a lot of things and does not shy away from the conversation, which is great. I just don't think the full weight of what he did, or how it affected others has sunk in yet and part of him still lives in the delusional fantasy world he created for himself 20+ years ago. Start a college fund or scholarship program in Angel's name. He was into acting/directing so maybe donate profits to a local acting workshop. I think the best way to show you are remorseful is to keep the name of the person whose life you ruined alive.
@@edgarallenpwned3538 you're disgusting. The man was murdered and dismembered by this sick man Alig, whether he was a drug dealer or not he didn't deserve to have his life taken by this sick man and then having his body mutilated. Like what is wrong with your brain/moral compass.
@@toastyreviews420 his family members in Colombia were also involved with drugs and sadly most of his family members are dead, but am sure you knew that
In Shockumentary, there is video of Alig in his apartment with the red hair and a huge gash on his neck - after they killed Angel. There are several people who say he, did in fact, have a party while Angel was in their bathroom. It's always been a part of the record but here again, everyone is lying but Michael?
I also had to think of that video snippet when he talked about it. But maybe it was not a party out of Michael's perception but just a night of friends randomly coming over and hanging out. That's at least what it looked like to me, and I think that was a pretty common thing to do for them back then. I guess if they would've thrown a party it would've been a crazy mess and not like what we see in that footage.
It's been awhile since I have seen Shockumentary but Gitsie also says there was a party - she was there. Friends over... it looked pretty packed to me. It was definitely more than a couple friends. In any case, he was also on film smiling about how he killed Angel because he was a clingon or a wannabe (can't remember the specific ad hominem). It was truly disturbing and while I would like to believe Michael has changed and has served his time - I mean it's totally possible it was self-defense but, Michael doesn't make it easy for me to believe him when his story is always changing. I guess you could argue that it's been a long time ago and it's hard to remember everything but this guy has been lying for so long that I'm not sure he really even knows the truth at this point. Watching these videos he's doing now has pretty much confirmed that he is back to drinking and likely doing drugs again. Some of these videos, he looked absolutely hammered. I don't know about his friends but I think they should be a bit concerned. If it's drugs that "set him off" as he claims, then beware.
*THAT’S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY!* I’m like dude there’s literally footage of you with red hair in that documentary clearly at a party. I was waiting for him to say “Yeah we may have gone to a party but it wasn’t a party at *_our_* house” or something but he never did. I feel like he’s either trying to dispel rumors on a technicality or he’s straight up lying/misremembering.
@damselcausingdistress 81 Um no. There is indeed footage of him in the documentary when he’s at a party after he murdered Angel and dyed his hair. It’s 100% him and it’s footage from a home camera, not some well lit dramatization.
This is exactly like the actual Limelight documentary where Michael Lord is explaining how he went to London and discovered "Rave" and brought it back to Manhattan using my actual video footage from Energy. I went on three London tours in 1989. In 1990, I brought Lenny Dee which was his first, and my fourth. Lenny came back with me twice, before Michael Lord, which would actually mark my SEVENTH trip before his first. Now doesn't that S T I N K. Pee-ew!!!!!!!!!!!
Jose De La Luz ...... No man....you re not. I actually believed him and his "transformation story" after I saw the very 1st interview he gave right after released from prison. Now, seeing this episode, right after I saw the one he explains arrested in Bronx-story, I dont belive ANYTHING that comes out of his mouth. Michael Michael..... you re 50....I m 40.... also an addict BTW (without dealing dope or having trouble with the law EVER).....never hurt anyone (but myself), lost my parents way to early and so on and so on.... And I hate myself basicly.....at the same time I rooted for U, wishing you all the best. But guess what..... I DO have a talent and I m not stupid..... Being a musician and actor, I have to tell you dude; your acting (lying and bullshiting people around you, and your friends) is for shit!!!! I can see through you, just like 80% of people watching and commenting this. And you re high as fuck BTW, both here AND in "Bronx episode"...especially that one. Last time I m watching or listening to your crap. You spoiled little 50 year old mamas boy.
damselcausingdistress 81 Because for Michael, someone died (by his hand BTW), isnt enough for him to stop messing around with tha law and drugs. Especially drugs considering his very addictive personality. Trust me...I m not the one who wants this to get worse... not for him or anyone else. But it really looks like that MA doesnt want or dont know how to start make things better.... FOR HIMSELF, not for me or anyone else. Yes, the man died. That is true. But watching and listening to our little protagonist here... I really dont have a feeling that HE HIMSELF wants to stop this whole mess getting worse. Remember; this is coming from a guy who also has a history of abusing HC drugs....and a person who usually have much more empathy for people like Michael. But having said that; I just think he doesnt give a flying fuck about ANYTHING bad he ever caused to his family, friends, people who trusted and respected him and so on..... I hope you get what I m trying to point out.
so James at James added a few bit in,like tea and crumpets... you killed someone. who cares about the rest. trying to correct petty things like that when it all results in the taking of someone's life. how can someone be so high that they don't know what happened when they killed someone but then they remember all these tiny details clearly after years passed. I wonder if any of this makes Angels family feel better...
Lara Miller; I m pretty sure that nobody in Angels family is watching or reading anything related to this whole story.... No movies, no documentaries, no Peews, no YT clips or comment sections....nothing.
I do believe these monsters could murder a nursery full of newborn babies and feel absolutely NOTHING. OUT OF TOUCH WITH EVERYTHING INCLUDING THEMSELVES
Yes Draino can be injected with a hypodermic, all you have to do is mix it with water. Michael seems almost flippant when he talks about the biggest event in his life. He comes across like a sociopath because does not seem to express any emotion about the murder.
If you watch any clips of Michael back on Geraldo to the Nelson tapes etc his emotions do not work like everyone else's. Freeze also helped with the Murder of Angel people forget that.
@@neynay8730 It's crazy because Freeze helped, but people don't bring it up as much as Michael, because Freeze showed remorse. I think if Michael had any remorse, it could have been a different outcome than what he ultimately ended his life with. Karma is something to fear!
no i disagree dramatic implies some worth or quality aligs life was just wasted there was no worth or quality in his life his life was just a wasteland
@Colt 45 I get that he did an awful thing but why all the vitriol? His story is a sad one and obviously he had some very good and horribly bad qualities. Just curious if you have additional insight?
I mean obviously there will be lies from all sides, and of course any story will be embellished or remebered incorrectly if multiple parties recount it, but I feel inclined to believe James over Michael just cause of Michael's reputation within the community. He's sort of renowned for being a liar, I mean sure things could be different but hey it's just turned into this massive story that people can't associate as reality anymore.
Yes but James is known to be lying too, in the sense of throwing things out of proportion just to make things more interesting and to personally gain whatever from it (attention or whatever). Which doesn't make him a more trustable person either. I do believe Ernie over any of those 2 though, and when watching more Pee-ew episodes about James and what happened back then, you can see Ernie comfirming things or even making statements about it.
scalpelli Fair point, and I do agree, but this was my first video watching this guy's content, so I haven't been able to come to a believed conclusion in regards to this guy's opinion. Will have to take more of a look, but he does seem more straight forward, at least - in the impression I get of him.
Michael Alig talking about the murder he committed while on heroin.....does 17 yrs in prison for it.....then died of a heroin overdose Christmas day 2020. Life definitely has it's revenge!!
I think a lot of people forget that he didn't actually kill Angel, Freez is the one who hit him on the head. In my humble opinion, I don't think it was premeditated murder. Freez saw Angel on top of Alig and in his panic he hit him. The lashes or on the back of his Angel's head. Everyone saw the gash on the back of Alig's neck. It very well seems like it was a self-defense type situation. I don't think people realize how drugs distort the mind, he called his mother in a panic asking what he should do, he did what he had to do because they were beyond the point of turning themselves in. I truly think he felt guilt and was telling everyone cause he couldn't bear to look at his peers, when Angel's brother talked to him he looked to the ground. the guy felt guilt he was put in an awful situation. You guys think just because he threw absurd parties and watched scary movies that he was fantasizing about killing Angel. Go off.
I respect you, Michael, and the Club Kids movement is so important in so many ways that don't get recognised because they're overshadowed by the scandalous aspects of it. But I'm really disturbed by the casual, almost comical, manner in which you discuss Angel's death. I understand it's important for you to make peace with what happened. You've served your time, and you seem to be in a good place, so for that, I applaud you and wish you well. I'm not saying you shouldn't be addressing the subject with a ten foot pole, but I'm saying to possibly show a little more tact when you bring it up? Perhaps show that it's not something that makes you cackle or smirk? Perhaps think of Angel's family and friends who possibly had a more difficult time getting over his death than you did? Just a thought. I'm not trolling, nor am I hating. Just something that has bothered me for a while.
I just dont understand how you can say what you did, yet respect the guy. Michael Alig frankly wasnt worthy of respect if what you said is true, which I think it is.
Another fabrication in the book is the Christina pulled Warhol's wig off at the book signing. It was not a drag queen. It was a real girl that worked as a waitress at that worked at El Teddy's Internacional
Dude paid his dues to society. He owed no one nothing. The guy who was murdered sold heroin and god knows what else. So he chose the life and everything that comes with it
Hey Michael in the shockumentary it showed you poured draino in angel's mouth and taped it shut is that true or was there no draino involved could you respond thank you.
Freeze, the accomplice to the murder, actually put it in his official statement to the police that Michael "either injected him with drano or poured it down his throat" so it was involved, apparently they were just too drugged out to remember exactly how.
Just walk away , take your 2nd Chance at freedom and go help the elderly, the needy . Don’t look back, that’s how you help those you hurt. You disappear
That was one thing that always bothered me...that Michael's cat supposedly died of neglect. It doesn't take much to keep a cat alive- a $2 box of cat food and water will keep a cat alive for a week. If he supposedly passed away due to an unknown poisoning or exposure to a sickly rat, then I can breath a little easier. Yeah, I know angel lost his life too...and Michael did his time for that. But it would be another tragedy if he let a cat starve to death while being a dope field.
I don’t know some ppl may not agree yes killing someone is a sin no matter what but I just think in some way the three of them were victims of the drugs bc shit actually happens when people are not in their five senses and have a clear mind perfect example. I’m not justifying Michael and freeze but they all have fault angel for feeding that addiction, Freeze for actual being the one who’s killed him by hitting him with the hammer and Michael for contributing to chopping the body with freeze. The three of them had choices as a person and each of them decided to live that way. I understand the family point of view of angel bc no matter what angel will not come back. Also it’s obvious that Michael had a a conscious and couldn’t live with the guilt. Now he has served his time in jail which lost almost two decades of his life and probably never be completely happy
I'm so glad you clarified about spike. That was the only thing that made my stomach turn...because I realized how blown up everything else was. Thank you, michael.
He murdered then dismembered someone and his main excuse has been that he was on drugs. he is currently one drugs again. As such, he should be considered a danger to society.
I would have preferred it if it were just you in the video, Michael. I'm not a fan of people almost constantly being interrupted whilst speaking is all. Thank you for sharing the truths though :)
Michael now works at Rumpus Room in NYC organizing some of their weekly parties. Ernie has been working on his UA-cam show FlouncyTV and he will publish a book about nightclubbing in 2016 in December. Both Michael and Ernie are working on bringing the Peeew! back.
Hey Michael and Ernie. I've only recently started researching the Club Kids and your story in particular Michael. Im a media student and Im doing my dissertation on the movie Party Monster, I'm not really analyzing the film from a story standpoint because my course has mainly been about the actually filmography but these videos offer an AMAZING insight into what really happened and give me so much to write about. I really just wanted to thank you for actually speaking about what happened so honestly and differentiating the truth from the fiction. I think you've more than served your time and from your other videos i can clearly see you're remorseful and I hope you dont take this the wrong way but you have steered me well away from drugs. good luck to you.
+Martin I am a audio-visual production student and I wanted to write about the Club kids and differences between the movie and the book but I can`t find Disco bloodbath online and I can`t buy it from my country :( Wish you luck with dissertation :) Btw I couldn`t agree more about Michael, he is such a sweetheart :)
Steven Roby If I may throw in a comment on this; OK, what he did was HC brutal shit, nobody is denying that.... but he did serve 17 years or so, and while inside, he was beaten, raped, suffering HC heavy heroin withdrawl and what not. I say that maybe he deserves a 2nd chance and freedom instead of "rotting in jail forever"......BUT; as far as calling him "sweetheart" and seeing him as being so remorseful and so on... (looking at you two; Bilja 13 & Martin).... I really think that your empathy and fascination with M Alig are little to heavy....or to strong.... I belive your attentions are pure and honest, but dont be naive...... ppl like him in general shouldnt be admired so much, and dont deserve to be a subject of numerous dissertations, analyses, conversations, movies, books, docs, etc..... Those are exactly the things that glorifies him, and feeds him and his egoistic sociopathic personallity.... which he has 100%...no doubt.!!!! Wheater he 'll ever or never commite another crime. He s 50+ years old, he is smart, experienced, he has manipulative personality to a degree and so on.... Therefore, dont buy this fresh out of prison new found good persona he is selling.... He may be changed to a degree.... but in his core he will always be what he is..... just like all of us. And new, young, upcoming enthusiastic ppl like you are perfect for supplying him with what his persona needs to survive at this point. No offence to anybody, PEACE!!!! (sry for my poor english, it is my 2nd language)....
Michael you aged beautifully. I support you and hope you are Still well. As a recovering opiate addict myself I know how it felt to be around people and thinking what you were doing was the norm.
How do you talk about this so nonchalantly like you did not chop up a human being. The fact that you only got 17 years for that is disgusting. You're talking and acting like it was no big deal and you're actually proud of it. You don't seem to have any remorse or taking any responsibility for the horrific thing that you did
Hey kittens, I think the topics that you talk about are so fascinating. I have an absolute obsession with all things club kids so these videos really excite me. Having said that, I think you should have a bit more structure around what you're discussing, cause some of the videos sometimes come across as a lot of mindless chatter with not as much substance as they could. No hate, but something to think about when you making videos :)
Micheal. Does it really matter if you had actually confessed to James or not?? You did do it, yes. That's all that matters _ I find you interesting as others do still I'm sure, but don't lose the real focus! Much ❤
I'm sorry to read the comments you're getting. you did your time, you really don't deserve to have to keep hearing all this judgement from inexperienced people behind a computer screen. they want a scapegoat for the shadow in themselves, and they can't even see what they're doing. your past does not define you. there's so much more to you in this life than that. take care
Isn't Disco Bloodbath meant to be a novel? Or a novelisation? O I don't know... I always preferred the title "Disco Bloodbath" to "Party Monster" although movie companies like to make statements like "MACAULAY CULKIN IS THE PARTY MONSTER!" and that kind of crap
@@greg7656 I just checked the Amazon listing and it seems you're right. In which case I think it's a bit irresponsible of James St James to have said the things he said in print.
Last month he was busted smoking meth. I don't he cares about the crime he committed. He has no true remorse, and is back to being a dangerous junkie. I wonder how long until he ends up back in prison?
My childhood friend (neighborhood friend) bludgeoned his parents with a framing hammer and did throw a party while his parents' bodies were underneath a pile of furniture in the master bedroom. I was there, and I've been around enough fucked up shit to know when something is off, and there were bits of blood that were still in the baseboards of the walls in the hallway that he didn't quite clean up too well because he was high off his ass...I know what death smells like and I smelled death. I immediately left cause fuck that. I'm no angel and I've done some fucked up things while high or drunk, but I've never murdered anyone...granted, I know fellow people in recovery who have, and it's a sensitive subject with them. I just hope you feel remorse and forgive yourself eventually, because that's a pain I've only had a microdose of and it was bad enough. Just....man...don't capitalize on it...sheesh. Someone died. It's serious, and I think you know that. I was also under the impression that he attacked you and you fought back. Oh, and sorry for throwin' shade on your other video--I just had a reaction. Desmond actually seems pretty cool, I just have my worries about kids, y'know? I love it when people explore, but I also worry about people's motives and dysfunctions (not like I don't have plenty heh) and I worry about him getting put in a bad situation. Anyway, I'm rambling. Stay fabulous.
Unfortunately my dog got into some rat poison my dad put out. By the time we knew he was sick and got him to the vet it was too late. So yes it can for sure kill your pets.
I'm sorry but ur wrong I have a family member who was actually shot with Drano and it ate her from the inside out I had to identify her by her clothes because her body was black and had so much oozing from the Drano we were not allowed to physically see her remains so sorry to prove u wrong but also not say that's what u did I believe u poured it on him as u said I mean who would admit something like that of it weren't true ,I just wanted to correct the Drano in a syringe statement!
pizzagate - james alefantis shared his release from prison on FB. They are friends. Then I saw an old clip of this guy stating he sexualy likes boys from age 10 to 16. Another dot of info added to pizzagate.
Just for the record you can draw up Drano in a hypodermic needle. You would have to use the same needle that people use to draw up testosterone and oil. When testosterone is in a little bottle it's with sesame seed oil or some other type of oil that makes it very very thick but if you use an IM needle which is enormous you can draw it up and then injected into your butt. So if it can do that it can certainly draw up Liquid Drano.
So I’ve watched all the Nelson Sullivan videos. I have watched all the documentaries. I love you Ernie, my Chicano big brother from Califas. But you clearly just blindly back up your friend this episode and now in 2023, it’s so clear EVERYONE else was actually right about him. I dreamt of moving to NYC from the East Side of San Jose as a young Queer kid in the late 80s. I’m so glad I didn’t!
Sometimes you need to stand by a friend even if they've done something horrible. He helped me a lot when we were young, and I repaid him when he got out of prison by helping him. My debt is paid and I don't need to back him up any more.
THE LAST MYTH ( gitsie to blame too). Gitsie mentions in the shockumantary that 'the box- with angels body in it' sat in your living room for over a week and she and others that came to the apartment ,sat beside it not knowing.
Michael Alig I believe you michael, its WOW thats to blame for all this. They made out like you were celebrating after angel disappeared, CUT to real life footage of you with flamin red hair and huge cut on ur neck, CUT to gitsie saying the above. THANKS for setting the record straight michael, much love x
2 sides to every story and I have to say Michael we can never justify or excuse the events and the actions of the night but I know drugs being an addict for 15 yrs and finally getting sober I know what dark roads drugs take u I love u I get what u where trying to create with the club kids and for that I thank u ❤️
I'm glad you're all recovered now; you're such a big inspiration and responsible of a lot of the underground/drag culture we have right now. I wished your story was something everyone learned from, but it doesn't seem to happen. I hope you take all your experience and rename to teach the new generations that being a club kid or part of a subculture is all about being yourself, about creativity and self-expression, and when drugs are involved, you're doing nothing but destroying all of that. Best wishes x
the parts in the ovie where the cat was fed rugs was the point I lost the connection, the empathy and when draino was injected was the second blow which caused a major disconnect to seeying the patymonster as humane. It's very harsh "lies" to tell about someone. I am glad to hear it's not true and believe you MIchael, you seem genuine. It's a sad history to have dramatized.
You say you didn't do this and that yet you claim you were so drugged out that when you murdered and dismembered Angel you couldn't remember that. Yet you remember everything else pretty clearly.
Good Point roundandround. Very selective memory.
He doesn't need to do some "research". I've seen more than 1 video Of Michael Alig stating he was so drugged out at that time he can't remember alot of stuff including the murder. It's pretty convenient he can remember things that make him look bad and then say it's not true. Facts are facts.
no, he's got it right on the money. The only research that needs to be done is on your end. Read ALL the information out there and you will learn that Michael did not do this in self defense. He killed Angel and then took all his drugs and money and split among the three of them. Yes the three of them. YOU probably didn't even know there were three people there besides Angel. 18,000 dollars and 8 bundles of dope. He knew what he was doing.
He’s saying it’s physically impossible. Just because he doesn’t remember doesn’t mean aliens may have come down and chopped up Angel’s body.
@@firstnamelastname6193 GOD! WOW! You OBVIOUSLY were there, cool kid!
I could careless about the tea, drano or coffee table. I'm more disturbed by the fact that you chopped another human being up. There are infact millions of addicts who don't murder and dismember other people. You also referencing to Transformations all snarky just makes you come off as a whiny little self entitled school boy. Why they let you out of prison I'll never know. My heart goes out to Angels family and friends. Rest in Peace.
shannons rule as well as your comment
The chopping up is unforgiving. How do you hang out with someone who chopped another person up?
Exactly
You may be right. But I feel like Michael just has a really bubbly personality and tries to always come off happy. I'm sure he hasn't always been happy considering how his life has gone. I always question why he killed someone and then followed that by dismembering the body, but I think honestly he was just not in his right mind. I think the drugs had him so wound up in his own little world that when he killed angel he was like "oh no I can't get caught because I need drugs" and so he just did what he thought he had to do to cover it up. He did say it was a relief when the cops arrested him though. This is just one way to view it though. Honestly, either way its so wrong. I think Michael has to know that. But honestly maybe he is just a self absorbed psychopath. There's no way to truly know what he thinks.
I respect your caring and sympathetic spirit byt there are literally millions upon millions of drug addicts that go through life without chopping another human being up. The things that where done to Angel to kill him are so disturbing and frightening and then to dissmember him! yikes.
Either way my heart goes out to everyone who loved Angel. He's the REAL victim in all of this and I think people sometimes lose sight of that because of thrJames/Michael Chronicles and their larger than life personalities.
I just wish that both of them would just TELL THE TRUTH, no matter how unglamorous or "boring" the truth is. I am referring to BOTH Michael Alig, and to James St. James. They both know the truth of what happened during their lives, and experiences, and I would just like to know that truth, without all of the bullshit.
Would love to see more of the Nelson Sullivan videos. Must of seen everyone at least twice. So ahead of his time. His last video on July 3 89 is so haunting. A fine southern gentleman had the sense to capture an amazing time in history. Rest easy my friend. You still live among your fans.
Nelson Sullivan is one person I had really have loved to have met ❗❤❤
He was so smart to document the Club Kids, the nightlife and even them going out to eat late nights.
There truly needs to be a true story edited from all of his videos. He was a wonderful and kind southern gentleman.
❤️
I can't even count how many times I have watched all of the videos. I still can't quite understand my fascination with Nelson or his videos. I really wish I had known Nelson, he seemed like such a gentleman as well as a gentle man. Just out of the blue one day I will start thinking about him and I find myself going through the videos again. I find it so interesting that Michael Musto is still relevant today.
But he didn't really know Michael....I love his videos, but how is he relevant to this video?
what did he mean by saying it was his last day to not be running?
He speaks of these events like he's talking about a camping trip with friends. I don't expect him to self-flagellate every second of every day, but everything out of this convicted killer's mouth seems like self-righteous narcissism. He has not expressed one shred of honest remorse about what he did, and his profiting from his notoriety. Had he not been sent to prison, Michael Alig would either be dead or a has-been junkie no one cares about or talks about.
I understand my opinion doesn't matter to most people, and I am fine with that. But Michael, if you truly are remorseful for what you did, you should be sharing part of everything you make with the Melendez family. As "fabulous" as you thought you were in another life, the majority of people who know who you are now would have no clue who you were if you didn't commit this horrible crime. You ruined a family, and that family has a right to be compensated for anything your notoriety has netted you. I am not assuming that you are making bank, but even if it's a dime they deserve at least a nickel of it.
He has been forthcoming on a lot of things and does not shy away from the conversation, which is great. I just don't think the full weight of what he did, or how it affected others has sunk in yet and part of him still lives in the delusional fantasy world he created for himself 20+ years ago.
Start a college fund or scholarship program in Angel's name. He was into acting/directing so maybe donate profits to a local acting workshop. I think the best way to show you are remorseful is to keep the name of the person whose life you ruined alive.
You're right your opinion don't matter
His opinion does matter. Alig is just another aging queen making money off his CRIME, MURDER.
@@wendyjohnston1943 And yours does? Seriously, shut up. His or her opinion is every bit as valid as anyone elses, ESPECIALLY yours.
@@wendyjohnston1943 eek! U r nasty.
Angel doesn't deserve this. Angel was a human being. RIP.
Agree 100%
Drug dealer hanger on loser. Sure
@@edgarallenpwned3538 you're disgusting. The man was murdered and dismembered by this sick man Alig, whether he was a drug dealer or not he didn't deserve to have his life taken by this sick man and then having his body mutilated. Like what is wrong with your brain/moral compass.
@DaniRida people that aren't bags of sjit lol
@@edgarallenpwned3538 And Alig wasn’t?
He got his too. Just not so brutal, unfortunately
Imagine your murderer (who's free!) talking about you in this light......... wow
Imagine being angles family and seeing this......
He spent almost 2 decades in jail STFU
@@drinkingpoolwater lol no .
@@toastyreviews420 his family members in Colombia were also involved with drugs and sadly most of his family members are dead, but am sure you knew that
Imagine Caring About Something That Doesn’t Affect You… Betrayal Is Betrayal
In Shockumentary, there is video of Alig in his apartment with the red hair and a huge gash on his neck - after they killed Angel. There are several people who say he, did in fact, have a party while Angel was in their bathroom. It's always been a part of the record but here again, everyone is lying but Michael?
I also had to think of that video snippet when he talked about it. But maybe it was not a party out of Michael's perception but just a night of friends randomly coming over and hanging out. That's at least what it looked like to me, and I think that was a pretty common thing to do for them back then. I guess if they would've thrown a party it would've been a crazy mess and not like what we see in that footage.
It's been awhile since I have seen Shockumentary but Gitsie also says there was a party - she was there. Friends over... it looked pretty packed to me. It was definitely more than a couple friends.
In any case, he was also on film smiling about how he killed Angel because he was a clingon or a wannabe (can't remember the specific ad hominem). It was truly disturbing and while I would like to believe Michael has changed and has served his time - I mean it's totally possible it was self-defense but, Michael doesn't make it easy for me to believe him when his story is always changing.
I guess you could argue that it's been a long time ago and it's hard to remember everything but this guy has been lying for so long that I'm not sure he really even knows the truth at this point. Watching these videos he's doing now has pretty much confirmed that he is back to drinking and likely doing drugs again. Some of these videos, he looked absolutely hammered. I don't know about his friends but I think they should be a bit concerned. If it's drugs that "set him off" as he claims, then beware.
*THAT’S WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY!* I’m like dude there’s literally footage of you with red hair in that documentary clearly at a party. I was waiting for him to say “Yeah we may have gone to a party but it wasn’t a party at *_our_* house” or something but he never did. I feel like he’s either trying to dispel rumors on a technicality or he’s straight up lying/misremembering.
@damselcausingdistress 81 Um no. There is indeed footage of him in the documentary when he’s at a party after he murdered Angel and dyed his hair. It’s 100% him and it’s footage from a home camera, not some well lit dramatization.
This is exactly like the actual Limelight documentary where Michael Lord is explaining how he went to London and discovered "Rave" and brought it back to Manhattan using my actual video footage from Energy. I went on three London tours in 1989. In 1990, I brought Lenny Dee which was his first, and my fourth. Lenny came back with me twice, before Michael Lord, which would actually mark my SEVENTH trip before his first. Now doesn't that S T I N K. Pee-ew!!!!!!!!!!!
Frankie Bones thank God u appear. you know I love ya xo
Frankie Bones u da man Frankie b!!!!!!!!
Never stop fam!!!
Frankie Bones everybody knows you're the Godfather of the American rave scene
Frankie Bones yeah, no one cares.
Fan girling over FRANKIE BONES🔥
I hope I'm not the only one that can tell Michael is lying ang his buddy knows it too.
Jose De La Luz That's exactly what I was thinking watching this.
Jose De La Luz
...... No man....you re not. I actually believed him and his "transformation story" after I saw the very 1st interview he gave right after released from prison. Now, seeing this episode, right after I saw the one he explains arrested in Bronx-story, I dont belive ANYTHING that comes out of his mouth. Michael Michael..... you re 50....I m 40.... also an addict BTW (without dealing dope or having trouble with the law EVER).....never hurt anyone (but myself), lost my parents way to early and so on and so on.... And I hate myself basicly.....at the same time I rooted for U, wishing you all the best. But guess what..... I DO have a talent and I m not stupid..... Being a musician and actor, I have to tell you dude; your acting (lying and bullshiting people around you, and your friends) is for shit!!!! I can see through you, just like 80% of people watching and commenting this. And you re high as fuck BTW, both here AND in "Bronx episode"...especially that one. Last time I m watching or listening to your crap. You spoiled little 50 year old mamas boy.
damselcausingdistress 81 Because for Michael, someone died (by his hand BTW), isnt enough for him to stop messing around with tha law and drugs. Especially drugs considering his very addictive personality. Trust me...I m not the one who wants this to get worse... not for him or anyone else. But it really looks like that MA doesnt want or dont know how to start make things better.... FOR HIMSELF, not for me or anyone else. Yes, the man died. That is true. But watching and listening to our little protagonist here... I really dont have a feeling that HE HIMSELF wants to stop this whole mess getting worse. Remember; this is coming from a guy who also has a history of abusing HC drugs....and a person who usually have much more empathy for people like Michael. But having said that; I just think he doesnt give a flying fuck about ANYTHING bad he ever caused to his family, friends, people who trusted and respected him and so on..... I hope you get what I m trying to point out.
@@sasahuzjak2249 he was just an addict with addict behaviors
@@marthaleyva9585 and a raging sociopath
This could be played in classes about abnormal psychology when discussing sociopaths. You killed and dismembered a human being remember?
Thank you, righht!
so James at James added a few bit in,like tea and crumpets... you killed someone. who cares about the rest.
trying to correct petty things like that when it all results in the taking of someone's life. how can someone be so high that they don't know what happened when they killed someone but then they remember all these tiny details clearly after years passed.
I wonder if any of this makes Angels family feel better...
Lara Miller; I m pretty sure that nobody in Angels family is watching or reading anything related to this whole story.... No movies, no documentaries, no Peews, no YT clips or comment sections....nothing.
Yep, he's horrific
This is descusting imagine your family member getting killed and this person talks about how it was done like it’s nothing
Lol you're more remorseful about the cat than angel.
Can’t believe he died on Christmas Eve a few days ago. The fucking irony.
@@ryanleone5805 that's not what irony means
Cats are better than drug dealers
I do believe these monsters could murder a nursery full of newborn babies and feel absolutely NOTHING. OUT OF TOUCH WITH EVERYTHING INCLUDING THEMSELVES
+rhymeandreasoning And end up blaming the babies.
TRUE
Yes Draino can be injected with a hypodermic, all you have to do is mix it with water. Michael seems almost flippant when he talks about the biggest event in his life. He comes across like a sociopath because does not seem to express any emotion about the murder.
If you watch any clips of Michael back on Geraldo to the Nelson tapes etc his emotions do not work like everyone else's. Freeze also helped with the Murder of Angel people forget that.
@@neynay8730 It's crazy because Freeze helped, but people don't bring it up as much as Michael, because Freeze showed remorse. I think if Michael had any remorse, it could have been a different outcome than what he ultimately ended his life with. Karma is something to fear!
depending on the gauge of the needle. i assume it could be
He never showed any remorse,at the end james st james was right,he was always insane and awful.
He is a total psychopath.
And now, deceased due to an overdose on Christmas day. As dramatic an end as it was dramatic a life.
no i disagree dramatic implies some worth or quality aligs life was just wasted there was no worth or quality in his life his life was just a wasteland
@@johnsmith-zh1bt Actually....yeah. You’re totally right.
@Colt 45 I get that he did an awful thing but why all the vitriol? His story is a sad one and obviously he had some very good and horribly bad qualities. Just curious if you have additional insight?
Good
That whole scene was a bunch of self centered vampires. Nothing worse than people who party that only care about themselves.
The dude on the left has Steve Buscemi eyes.. LOL
heyoka walker I think this could be the new bette davis eyes
heyoka walker Willem DaFoe mixed with Steve Buschemi
TOTALLY!
Aids
he's a pencil-thin mustache away from looking like John Waters
How do you know that a junkie is lying?...
...HIS MOUTH IS MOVING!!!
I mean obviously there will be lies from all sides, and of course any story will be embellished or remebered incorrectly if multiple parties recount it, but I feel inclined to believe James over Michael just cause of Michael's reputation within the community.
He's sort of renowned for being a liar, I mean sure things could be different but hey it's just turned into this massive story that people can't associate as reality anymore.
Yes but James is known to be lying too, in the sense of throwing things out of proportion just to make things more interesting and to personally gain whatever from it (attention or whatever). Which doesn't make him a more trustable person either. I do believe Ernie over any of those 2 though, and when watching more Pee-ew episodes about James and what happened back then, you can see Ernie comfirming things or even making statements about it.
scalpelli Fair point, and I do agree, but this was my first video watching this guy's content, so I haven't been able to come to a believed conclusion in regards to this guy's opinion.
Will have to take more of a look, but he does seem more straight forward, at least - in the impression I get of him.
@@DOOMGENERATION true
Michael Alig talking about the murder he committed while on heroin.....does 17 yrs in prison for it.....then died of a heroin overdose Christmas day 2020. Life definitely has it's revenge!!
Addiction is a deadly disease.
"No matter how fucked up on drugs I was, the cats were very important to me." Awwwwkwwwwwaaaaarrrrrrrdddddd....
I had to skip ahead..
So that’s why the rat snitched
If it’s awkward don’t watch. You obviously wanted to hear his side of it. Sounds like he’s holding his self accountable for his addiction
The body in the coffee table party is right out of Alfred Hitchcock’s “rope”
I find it strange how nobody needed to use the bathroom for a week! Definitely Pewee!!
I think a lot of people forget that he didn't actually kill Angel, Freez is the one who hit him on the head. In my humble opinion, I don't think it was premeditated murder. Freez saw Angel on top of Alig and in his panic he hit him. The lashes or on the back of his Angel's head. Everyone saw the gash on the back of Alig's neck. It very well seems like it was a self-defense type situation. I don't think people realize how drugs distort the mind, he called his mother in a panic asking what he should do, he did what he had to do because they were beyond the point of turning themselves in. I truly think he felt guilt and was telling everyone cause he couldn't bear to look at his peers, when Angel's brother talked to him he looked to the ground. the guy felt guilt he was put in an awful situation. You guys think just because he threw absurd parties and watched scary movies that he was fantasizing about killing Angel. Go off.
THAT'S RIGHT!!! GODDAMNIT!!!!
i have to smile cuz i feel the same way...say what u want about me doing horrific things to a human but do not say i harmed a cat...or any animal
I respect you, Michael, and the Club Kids movement is so important in so many ways that don't get recognised because they're overshadowed by the scandalous aspects of it. But I'm really disturbed by the casual, almost comical, manner in which you discuss Angel's death. I understand it's important for you to make peace with what happened. You've served your time, and you seem to be in a good place, so for that, I applaud you and wish you well. I'm not saying you shouldn't be addressing the subject with a ten foot pole, but I'm saying to possibly show a little more tact when you bring it up? Perhaps show that it's not something that makes you cackle or smirk? Perhaps think of Angel's family and friends who possibly had a more difficult time getting over his death than you did?
Just a thought. I'm not trolling, nor am I hating. Just something that has bothered me for a while.
I just dont understand how you can say what you did, yet respect the guy. Michael Alig frankly wasnt worthy of respect if what you said is true, which I think it is.
Another fabrication in the book is the Christina pulled Warhol's wig off at the book signing. It was not a drag queen. It was a real girl that worked as a waitress at that worked at El Teddy's Internacional
Absolutely horrific. Glad Alig is not here to seemingly glorify murdering his friend any more.
More concerned about Spike the cat and getting the story straight about James St James’ book than the actual act of murder? Yikes! 😳
Dude paid his dues to society. He owed no one nothing. The guy who was murdered sold heroin and god knows what else. So he chose the life and everything that comes with it
Yikes is right.
Hey Michael in the shockumentary it showed you poured draino in angel's mouth and taped it shut is that true or was there no draino involved could you respond thank you.
Freeze, the accomplice to the murder, actually put it in his official statement to the police that Michael "either injected him with drano or poured it down his throat" so it was involved, apparently they were just too drugged out to remember exactly how.
thank you for being so forthcoming. I really enjoy your channel.
Susan Dhifaoui i really enjoy these videos too. Humans are so crazy
Just walk away , take your 2nd Chance at freedom and go help the elderly, the needy . Don’t look back, that’s how you help those you hurt. You disappear
What's the song that gets played during the intermission in the middle of the video?
It's from Andrew Barrett Cox's Clubland musical about Michael Alig and the club kids. ua-cam.com/video/zhWPtWdprE4/v-deo.html
Nelson Sullivans video of the cake incident, is it on youtube?
I have seen it on the 5ninthavenueproject channel On UA-cam, sorry am on mobile device and cannot link
Oh cool thanks! I'll take a look : )
That was one thing that always bothered me...that Michael's cat supposedly died of neglect. It doesn't take much to keep a cat alive- a $2 box of cat food and water will keep a cat alive for a week. If he supposedly passed away due to an unknown poisoning or exposure to a sickly rat, then I can breath a little easier. Yeah, I know angel lost his life too...and Michael did his time for that. But it would be another tragedy if he let a cat starve to death while being a dope field.
@babybluex Who are you to decide who deserves to live and who not? God?
when you're high it's impossible to think clear enough to stick to your responsibilities.
Well not everyone is you.
I agree. I'm glad he clarified.
@@kafkaseyebrows That was the dumbest thing ive heard all day. Thank you for that precious tidbit
I don’t know some ppl may not agree yes killing someone is a sin no matter what but I just think in some way the three of them were victims of the drugs bc shit actually happens when people are not in their five senses and have a clear mind perfect example. I’m not justifying Michael and freeze but they all have fault angel for feeding that addiction, Freeze for actual being the one who’s killed him by hitting him with the hammer and Michael for contributing to chopping the body with freeze. The three of them had choices as a person and each of them decided to live that way. I understand the family point of view of angel bc no matter what angel will not come back. Also it’s obvious that Michael had a a conscious and couldn’t live with the guilt. Now he has served his time in jail which lost almost two decades of his life and probably never be completely happy
“I can’t even look at a picture of spike right now, it’s too painful.” Bruh you literally chopped up your friend! Wtf 😂
I'm so glad you clarified about spike. That was the only thing that made my stomach turn...because I realized how blown up everything else was. Thank you, michael.
So glad that is not true.
Michael is painful to listen to, always stuttering and re-wording everything, he can't say one sentence without chopping it up. So annoying
soulshaker205 then Don't. Watch. His. Videos. Jesus people..
LOL... The expression on Ernies face throughout this video is priceless.
There is an age Limit to this behaviour, after a certain age, you just look OLD and weird, pretending to be 18 again....,.......
You should of never left prison.
What do you guys think about James alafantis? He gave Michael a shout out. Do you know him Michael?
i really wish u guys make a commentary video on ur vintage 80's and 90's films
The 1980s films were Nelson Sullivan's who died in 1989. Polar opposite, classy, caring human being.
ITS A MEMOIR! JAMES IS ALLOWED CREATIVE LICENSE. Why you were realised from jail i'll never know. You're disturbing, and a public threat.
He's not threatening to anyone.
He murdered then dismembered someone and his main excuse has been that he was on drugs. he is currently one drugs again. As such, he should be considered a danger to society.
@@angelamiller2577 👀
@@onlyplayaseattacoswiththei9433 Lol
Forgive if you can, move on if you cant because I forgive.
sociopath: a mental health disorder characterized by disregard for other people, but some regard for cats
Exhibits A & B ^^
Will you please do a full video talking about Christina Superstar
You can watch vids with christina on Nelson's videos.
I would have preferred it if it were just you in the video, Michael. I'm not a fan of people almost constantly being interrupted whilst speaking is all.
Thank you for sharing the truths though :)
I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU ARE NOT DOING LIFE IN PRISON !!!! OMG !!! I COULDN'T LIVE WITH MYSELF IF I DID WHAT YOU DID TO ANGEL !! R.I.P ANGEL ❤🥀🕯
I'm glad you obviously don't have the intelligence to be a lawyer 😆😂
Ernie Glam seems uninterested and sinister.
Ernie glam certainly does not seem sinister to me at all!! Ernie glam seems obviously uncomfortable with Michael Alig!!!!
I was able to get Drano into a needle however getting it out was the issue..
Just watched Club Daze on Netflix and ended up here somehow.... after everything you've done, the CAT bothers you?????? The F-ing CAT?!? 🙀
are you really 50? you look so young
I know he passed by ironic 4 years ago he has an interview somewhere else saying he did it
Where are you now Michael & Ernie?
Michael now works at Rumpus Room in NYC organizing some of their weekly parties. Ernie has been working on his UA-cam show FlouncyTV and he will publish a book about nightclubbing in 2016 in December. Both Michael and Ernie are working on bringing the Peeew! back.
bring the Peeew back!
Hey Michael and Ernie. I've only recently started researching the Club Kids and your story in particular Michael. Im a media student and Im doing my dissertation on the movie Party Monster, I'm not really analyzing the film from a story standpoint because my course has mainly been about the actually filmography but these videos offer an AMAZING insight into what really happened and give me so much to write about. I really just wanted to thank you for actually speaking about what happened so honestly and differentiating the truth from the fiction. I think you've more than served your time and from your other videos i can clearly see you're remorseful and I hope you dont take this the wrong way but you have steered me well away from drugs. good luck to you.
+Martin I am a audio-visual production student and I wanted to write about the Club kids and differences between the movie and the book but I can`t find Disco bloodbath online and I can`t buy it from my country :( Wish you luck with dissertation :)
Btw I couldn`t agree more about Michael, he is such a sweetheart :)
+Bilja Vicious The book is now called Party Monster. Disco Bloodbath is out of print but they still sell the book as Party Monster.
Martin you are a complete moron he killed another human being cut him into pieces he should rot in jail forever are you fucking mad in the head???
Steven Roby If I may throw in a comment on this; OK, what he did was HC brutal shit, nobody is denying that.... but he did serve 17 years or so, and while inside, he was beaten, raped, suffering HC heavy heroin withdrawl and what not. I say that maybe he deserves a 2nd chance and freedom instead of "rotting in jail forever"......BUT; as far as calling him "sweetheart" and seeing him as being so remorseful and so on... (looking at you two; Bilja 13 & Martin).... I really think that your empathy and fascination with M Alig are little to heavy....or to strong.... I belive your attentions are pure and honest, but dont be naive...... ppl like him in general shouldnt be admired so much, and dont deserve to be a subject of numerous dissertations, analyses, conversations, movies, books, docs, etc..... Those are exactly the things that glorifies him, and feeds him and his egoistic sociopathic personallity.... which he has 100%...no doubt.!!!! Wheater he 'll ever or never commite another crime. He s 50+ years old, he is smart, experienced, he has manipulative personality to a degree and so on.... Therefore, dont buy this fresh out of prison new found good persona he is selling.... He may be changed to a degree.... but in his core he will always be what he is..... just like all of us. And new, young, upcoming enthusiastic ppl like you are perfect for supplying him with what his persona needs to survive at this point. No offence to anybody, PEACE!!!! (sry for my poor english, it is my 2nd language)....
Animals over people any day...
❤
This is the best show online, thanks for all of the amazing episodes guys!
Michael you aged beautifully. I support you and hope you are Still well. As a recovering opiate addict myself I know how it felt to be around people and thinking what you were doing was the norm.
Why can’t you put draining into a hypodermic needle? If it’s too thick to suck up, just remove plunger and pour in. Really!!
Alig was a tortured soul forced to live 54 years of life on Earth. When he died, he really was at peace with himself and the world.
I thought he was alive
He was a monster
that cat was so cute I love Spike
He was adorable. Poor thing.
How do you talk about this so nonchalantly like you did not chop up a human being. The fact that you only got 17 years for that is disgusting. You're talking and acting like it was no big deal and you're actually proud of it. You don't seem to have any remorse or taking any responsibility for the horrific thing that you did
A means of coping - also a window into someone morally disconnected.
Hey kittens, I think the topics that you talk about are so fascinating. I have an absolute obsession with all things club kids so these videos really excite me. Having said that, I think you should have a bit more structure around what you're discussing, cause some of the videos sometimes come across as a lot of mindless chatter with not as much substance as they could. No hate, but something to think about when you making videos :)
Michael, have you ever tried to reach out to Angel's family or have they ever contacted you on social media?
Micheal. Does it really matter if you had actually confessed to James or not??
You did do it, yes. That's all that matters
_ I find you interesting as others do still I'm sure, but don't lose the real focus!
Much ❤
all that matters is that he said he did it? What about his life, and what about his family? What kind of human being are you
Who's the annoying sidekick?
We The People Right? He's annoying! All the original club kids were annoying!
+The Pee-ew :P U rock, Ernie!!
I'm sorry to read the comments you're getting. you did your time, you really don't deserve to have to keep hearing all this judgement from inexperienced people behind a computer screen. they want a scapegoat for the shadow in themselves, and they can't even see what they're doing. your past does not define you. there's so much more to you in this life than that. take care
I think I’d rather have a needle of drain O rather the it be poured into my mouth and duct taped
Isn't Disco Bloodbath meant to be a novel? Or a novelisation? O I don't know... I always preferred the title "Disco Bloodbath" to "Party Monster" although movie companies like to make statements like "MACAULAY CULKIN IS THE PARTY MONSTER!" and that kind of crap
no, it was a memoir by James St. James. Not a novel
@@greg7656 I just checked the Amazon listing and it seems you're right. In which case I think it's a bit irresponsible of James St James to have said the things he said in print.
thank u explaining about kitty
Last month he was busted smoking meth. I don't he cares about the crime he committed. He has no true remorse, and is back to being a dangerous junkie. I wonder how long until he ends up back in prison?
I like how this guy puts out a video and it blows up and gets almost instanteously downvoted, justice!
My childhood friend (neighborhood friend) bludgeoned his parents with a framing hammer and did throw a party while his parents' bodies were underneath a pile of furniture in the master bedroom. I was there, and I've been around enough fucked up shit to know when something is off, and there were bits of blood that were still in the baseboards of the walls in the hallway that he didn't quite clean up too well because he was high off his ass...I know what death smells like and I smelled death. I immediately left cause fuck that. I'm no angel and I've done some fucked up things while high or drunk, but I've never murdered anyone...granted, I know fellow people in recovery who have, and it's a sensitive subject with them. I just hope you feel remorse and forgive yourself eventually, because that's a pain I've only had a microdose of and it was bad enough. Just....man...don't capitalize on it...sheesh. Someone died. It's serious, and I think you know that. I was also under the impression that he attacked you and you fought back.
Oh, and sorry for throwin' shade on your other video--I just had a reaction. Desmond actually seems pretty cool, I just have my worries about kids, y'know? I love it when people explore, but I also worry about people's motives and dysfunctions (not like I don't have plenty heh) and I worry about him getting put in a bad situation.
Anyway, I'm rambling. Stay fabulous.
Omg I remember that case crazy that u were there omg 😳
Heard about that case so horrifying
HOLY SHIT I SAW THIS ON THAT CHAPTER LOL LMAO HE REALLY DID DO THAT LOL
That wasn't really tearing to shreds anything LOL
James was on ur "podcast" i highly doubt u talked about any of this
Former vet tech here: rat poison won’t kill a cat or dog. That’s in the movies. Make’em a bit sick? Sure. Most don’t even need a vet visit.
Unfortunately my dog got into some rat poison my dad put out. By the time we knew he was sick and got him to the vet it was too late. So yes it can for sure kill your pets.
I am a vet tech. It can kill your cat or dog.
I'm sorry but ur wrong I have a family member who was actually shot with Drano and it ate her from the inside out I had to identify her by her clothes because her body was black and had so much oozing from the Drano we were not allowed to physically see her remains so sorry to prove u wrong but also not say that's what u did I believe u poured it on him as u said I mean who would admit something like that of it weren't true ,I just wanted to correct the Drano in a syringe statement!
You should be thanking him
Cat probably saw someone normal and it scared him to death...wasn't used to it! Lolll
I would distance myself from this now if I were you; and just reinvent. It isn't salvagible..
I wonder if James st James ever talked about Michael's death? Curious it flew deep under the radar.
James and I had an hour conversation about Michael's death on his Night Fever podcast on World of Wonder Presents.
pizzagate - james alefantis shared his release from prison on FB. They are friends. Then I saw an old clip of this guy stating he sexualy likes boys from age 10 to 16. Another dot of info added to pizzagate.
16 or 17... quote it truthfully... said this inhis early 20s
He saw an opportunity for $$ and ran with it.
Just for the record you can draw up Drano in a hypodermic needle. You would have to use the same needle that people use to draw up testosterone and oil. When testosterone is in a little bottle it's with sesame seed oil or some other type of oil that makes it very very thick but if you use an IM needle which is enormous you can draw it up and then injected into your butt. So if it can do that it can certainly draw up Liquid Drano.
and you think they just happened to have one of those around? They were junkies, they used standard junkie needles
This makes my skin crawl.
Play in Bliss Angel Melendez
what's the video where Cristina goes nuts.
Alig " friend " used him for every thing he was worth he shoulId have said no we will not address anything of the past
James never thought you would return to New York.....hense he left,when you might be returning!
" But still...no hard feelings...Merry Christmas! "
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E ROLL
So I’ve watched all the Nelson Sullivan videos. I have watched all the documentaries. I love you Ernie, my Chicano big brother from Califas. But you clearly just blindly back up your friend this episode and now in 2023, it’s so clear EVERYONE else was actually right about him. I dreamt of moving to NYC from the East Side of San Jose as a young Queer kid in the late 80s. I’m so glad I didn’t!
Sometimes you need to stand by a friend even if they've done something horrible. He helped me a lot when we were young, and I repaid him when he got out of prison by helping him. My debt is paid and I don't need to back him up any more.
THE LAST MYTH ( gitsie to blame too). Gitsie mentions in the shockumantary that 'the box- with angels body in it' sat in your living room for over a week and she and others that came to the apartment ,sat beside it not knowing.
This is true. The box did sit there. But there were no parties, there was no table cloth draped over the top for parties with drinks and snacks!
Michael Alig I believe you michael, its WOW thats to blame for all this. They made out like you were celebrating after angel disappeared, CUT to real life footage of you with flamin red hair and huge cut on ur neck, CUT to gitsie saying the above. THANKS for setting the record straight michael, much love x
Michael Alig umm we did party near the box, not on the box but near it, and it did stink!
The last one is semi-true, wasn’t there bloodbath themed parties at the Tunnel/Limelight before the arrest?
Yes.. So it seems the gore and drugs did not mix
2 sides to every story and I have to say Michael we can never justify or excuse the events and the actions of the night but I know drugs being an addict for 15 yrs and finally getting sober I know what dark roads drugs take u I love u I get what u where trying to create with the club kids and for that I thank u ❤️
I'm glad you're all recovered now; you're such a big inspiration and responsible of a lot of the underground/drag culture we have right now.
I wished your story was something everyone learned from, but it doesn't seem to happen. I hope you take all your experience and rename to teach the new generations that being a club kid or part of a subculture is all about being yourself, about creativity and self-expression, and when drugs are involved, you're doing nothing but destroying all of that.
Best wishes x
Dude he killled a man are u so dumb to idolatrize this dude?
the parts in the ovie where the cat was fed rugs was the point I lost the connection, the empathy and when draino was injected was the second blow which caused a major disconnect to seeying the patymonster as humane. It's very harsh "lies" to tell about someone. I am glad to hear it's not true and believe you MIchael, you seem genuine. It's a sad history to have dramatized.