Alig got high on his own supply, believing that he was "too good" for a normal job and hoping that his "celebrity" would support him and allow him to coast through life. Sadly, that was not the case. I know all the players, Michaels problem is that he never grew up.
I mean yeah?! No shit lol! He earned a living in the same way from the time he was a teenager to the moment he went into prison. He had the red carpet rolled out as soon as he was released- everyone wanted him to be involved in different projects that had been waiting for his release. It was already predetermined & he did what anyone would naturally do. He actually tried to make a real effort to work & make an honest living which can't be said for the majority of felons who spent almost 20 years in federal prison.
I think he had a conscience. But it was a different world. He was lost and the people there for him were the last people he needed to be around. He should've gone away quietly; stayed sober and rebuilt his life. You can't leverage his kind of fame..
I'm met him at this club in Manhattan in like 2018. We briefly met, and he gave me very nice compliments, but he was definitely high on something. I remember telling my friend after I met him, " he should've NEVER moved back to NYC, he's just gonna get back into drugs again". And he we are....
@@jenniferburton7044ok, at first I thought that could go either way. But I think that queen took Ketamine, and I bet that would make the time fly in prison. He was the worst
I know he had a hard life and was a drug addict but he was objectively a bad person and a murderer, his art was just recreations of other people's more popular designs and an obvious sign of his ongoing obsession with Warhol. Video is great but I hate how people are so forgiving of someone that made the choice to not only violently murder someone but toss them out like garbage.
Thanks, He was definitely in a losing battle with his demons. I don’t know how many of his former club kids really forgave him, aside from the ones who believed that Robert Riggs, was actually the killer. It’s hard to say, for sure. But I know many of them just used him to get publicity and to make money. There was a few very shady characters in that group and Alig may have been the shadiest of them
His depiction in Party Monster was so incredibly toned down to how loud, obnoxious, and gregarious he was in real life. I remember the Club Kids entourage when they came to Dallas and spent months in our rave culture. They were like Killer Clowns from Outer Space. Lookup any of their appearances on talk shows. How could he be irritated by his depiction in Party Monster? Even his death proves he had No self control and didn't listen to James St. James top rule, not to ever touch Heroin. Michael was very obviously Bi Polar. His mania and subsequent Crashes were the bane of his existence. That mixed with the drugs were a powder keg
Gay men are very often depressed and addicted to narcotics. I read that alot of them view their own gayness as a deficit, and when they realize the men they have to date share the same “deficit” as them, they struggle with that. This breeds bitterness and s3xual frustration and many turn to booze, group orgies and addiction to cope. Very sad.
Oh yeah, it was Michael Alig that interviewed Desmond the "drag kid," with a massive painting behind him with the word, "Rohypnol." How weird to have two grown men on either side a kid, interviewing him, and the kid looking doped up, in front of that painting.
Omfg. Desmond was not, "doped up"...why doesn't anyone talk about Desi being on the spectrum, and drag helped him out with so much? The guys (The Peeew hosts), helped him with exposure to the dragcon type world, leading to meeting RuPaul, leading to being on Vogue twice etc...His mother was well-aware what she was doing to help her son's career and he is a happy well-adjusted kid...even outside the bullying he received at school for his identity. Michael's paintings were all over that set/apartment. It really says a great deal about the perverted masses that that is where they jumped with the whole interview. Very sad people are so bigoted they see crime everywhere. Except when someone like, Corey Feldman, says "Hey, these specific people abused me and other kids"...then, no one listens...but we must protect the children!
Wow a paroled murderer claims his good name was slandered. Boo hoo. When’s Angel Melenendez’s family’s parole? They are living a life sentence of grief.
Wow..a drug dealer having a tragic end??? Poor innocent victim 🙄I mean after all drug dealing is a victimless crime that doesn’t affect entire families and communities. Profiting off the misery of others, and you meet a miserable end. I am shocked.
A man was killed like trash,and to glamorize the killer is a sociopathic in itself. James St. James was an opportunist who used Alig for profit and Alig didn't have enough sense to know because Alig was a sociopathic narcissist. However, the guilt took its toll and Alig died of heroin overdose in 2020.
I personally think James is just as much a sociopath as Michael was....that's why there were so competitive & why they were always up each others asses. They were both jealous of each other. They were toxic together. James used him in the end.
Thank you for this. Through your channel and the Peew, I'd sort of kept up on Alig until around 2019. He even replied to one of my comments way back when. But I was clueless about the last year or so of his life. Now I know. It's hard to feel pity for him, but at the same time I know all too well what addiction can do to a person, so... I just hope the family of his victim have finally been able to find peace, as well as Michael.
I went to his Outrage parties and hung out with him one-on-one several times before things got too toxic for me and I quit that whole scene. He wasn't even that fun to be around because he was so neurotic about his "work," i.e. relentless self-promotion. When I heard the news that he'd fatally OD'd finally, I wasn't surprised, and I don't pity him at all because he sure as hell didn't give a shit about anyone else.
Alig was the bohemian equivalent of a jock who peaked in high school. His art was derivative. And being visibly high is cute when you’re 20 and in bad taste after you’re 30 😂
@@yumyumbumblebeeOne instance of his changing of the "counterculture" please,cheers bud. Imo his actions are why he is remembered not because of his "talent"...
Thank you for making this video. I did watch bits and pieces of the Pew channel but it always felt so lo-fi and grimy, I just didn't really get into most of it. I had no idea about the various controversies and missteps. You always have so much information to give us.
His story literally is what I cite as why I've never got into the drug scene. His partys were art and lit af. That being said, these comments are brutal.
yeah, they all look like shit ,those drugs did a number. Rupaul only looks good because he's had a dozen surgeries & wears drag makeup, lol. James looks like a crypt keeper now.
This was very well done, it reminded me how much I enjoyed your videos on the club kids. I'm sure I can speak for a lot of people that you have been missed.
Really enjoying this series! But, may I make a suggestion? Plz cover Angel Melendez's story more thoroughly! I have watched so much media in this case, and still, all that I know of him is that he sold drugs...and I know there is more there. I did hear that he and his brother immigrated to America from Columbia in the 1970's, and you know that there has to be an epic story about that. Any who, keep up the great work!
@@RetroRoomYT his brother may want you to get his story out there. I forget his name, but there are documentaries out there from when Angel went missing before he was found on the shores of Staten Island in a tv box from Macys where his family, specifically his brother, pleaded for his return or for information on him. That might be somewhere to start.
Hey Retro Room,I have been subbed to you since your literal beginning. Of course life has been going on,quite a few deaths,including my beloved only child,Jacob, forever 18.He was so young when I would watch ur channel daily.I used to comment alot.I gotta binge watch ur videos I missed.So happy you r still doing this.So proud,n this was another great video doll!
Thank you Kimberly, I’m sorry for your loss. It’s been a difficult few years Thank you for sticking with the channel and being one of the O G subscribers! ♥️
I don't know why but this is the first notification I've got from your channel in a long time. I now have lots of unseen videos to check out. So glad to see you are still going.
Thank you for sharing. From 1990 - 1994 I lived in a 30,000 sqf warehouse downtown Dallas (4404 Main Street/ 4404 Productions) and put on the biggest of DJ featured events. That's when I meet and got to know Michael. Avant-guard was his style and a 'gentle giant' he was. I evented Danger in Deep Space 03/27/1993 and flew down Michael, Ern Glam, Christopher Comp, Astro Earl, Waltpaper, Desi Monster and Eva Destruction... Dallas never recovered from when we next day (still up) I tour guided them to the Galleria Mall, Macy's, J.C Pennies... As Astro would say "awshit, we let'em have it!"
This was absolutely, without question, your best upload. It answered so many questions and closed so many holes in Michael’s story. Thank you. May Angel and Michael both rest in peace.
Imagine going to prison in the 90's, getting out in the 2010's and everyone's petitioning against you in a world dominated by social media...... that would be depressing. Even if you committed a heinous crime.
Lauding yet another narcissistic "creative" personality is just like any other. He was an attention seeking criminal. Why wasn't he incarcerated for life?
Wow, this still leaves more questions than answers. Seems like Ernie Glam was one of very few real friends Michael had. I feel bad for Ernie and felt he was trying so hard and was confronted with things he shouldn't have. I used to watch their channel and just felt like Michael was going off the rails and suspected he had returned to his old self destructive behaviors, like when they went through his lunch box with the short straws etc. I'm sure enough people mooched to get something and threw him away, but he made it worse. Oh well, maybe he and everyone involved can have peace. Thanks for posting!!. ❤️❤️❤️
I think you are right, psychospacecadet Ernie and Rachel Cain were probably the only ones who were willing to give him a second chance. Unfortunately, Michaels demons got the better of him
@@RetroRoomYT Also, club kids: Whillyem Thrillwell, Megan Jett, and Natasha Komis of MTV fame...forgave him and tried to help the best they could to keep him alive and smiling. He got in with a bad dude the last year, that really pulled him down.
Actually, Michael had quite a few ~real~ friends, but bonding with other human beings didn't exactly come naturally to him. It's difficult to be friends with someone who has no empathy and a big, childish ego. For some reason, Ernie just never stopped making excuses for Michael like the rest of us did once we quit drinking the Kool-Aid.
@@mjreikiriot3302 Oh, please. Michael loved every minute of the drama and attention he got from both Jay (the "bad dude") and all of us who witnessed that shitshow. I was actually dumb enough at first to think I could somehow rescue him from that whole situation, but then I realized playing the battered wife was just another costume he enjoyed wearing, and in front of an audience.
@@user-kb8qw7dy4t Patterns are difficult to break, and I wasn't speaking of Jay (Jose), I was talking about the spoiled, Alceo, that stole 6 grand from him, kicked him out of his place all the time, and even put him back in jail in CT in Spring of 2020...which I had to bail him out of so he didn't die of COVID in some crappy podunk town. I can honestly say he cried more tears than the jaded hearts will ever believe. He enjoyed when people treated him well, but like many, he'd take bad attention over nothing. Growing up without healthy parents can do that.
So crazy... I remember when he got on Facebook and we had regular conversations until he wanted me to come to NY. He was getting very pushy and basically demanding that I come. It wasn't a scam artist, as we talked via FaceTime. I know that sounds unbelievable, but it's true. Random
World of Wonder also does RuPauls Drag Race, which will never not be crazy to me. It’s like the urban legend of Mr. Rogers being a former sniper. It’s just too disjointed
Michael alig lost no time trying to ingratiate himself back into the nyc gay community. Not surprising, most took a pass. He spent his last years trading sex and his declining charisma for housing and drugs
He actually was at the Glory Daze premier at the Players Theater on McDougal street in NYC, as was I. He didn't, however, participate in a Q and A after the screening with Michael Musto and Ramon Fernandez.
I don’t even see how. Some of his outfits looked awful and really dumb. Still intriguing he basically started himself a successful buisness just from partying. If he wasn’t stupid as a kid and bragging about his drug use and how the club allows it they would’ve lasted much longer also not killing someone and talking about it. He would’ve gotten away with it most likely. He wanted attention for it in some way. No one knows what actually happened in the murder to. They didn’t even recognize the guys race correctly by the time they found him. That’s how much luck he had getting away with it and the cops didn’t care at all until they needed to
Alig should have quietly faded into the background and got a regular job and tried to his enjoy his freedom instead of trying to keep all that fame going!
I love it. What an appropriate and thorough final installment to biography you've made on the Iife and legend that this man lived. I would have to say at this point especially you are the very final word in the cataloging and Documenting of Michael Alig's legacy.
You said "it was around this time that Alig learned that the sequel to party monster wouldn't be released until after his passing" Ima nees you to do better bc that don't make sense baby. Love this channel tho.
As all the Club Kids always said “life is too short just enjoy it ! He lived his party time at his age, unfortunately bad things happen, someone lost its life, he went to jail he paid his time. Went out and life wasn’t shining lights like the clubs. Well said now his in peace. Rip for both of them Alig and Angel.
But he did serve a 20 years sentence, he's never spoken about his crime lightly, certainly never about the victim in derogatory terms, and never boasted about the murder. Also, he did say he repented. What more could he have done?
You did a very good job of putting together the video. I imagine it took a lot of time. It's sad to see how badly things turned out in his life. I use to attend his parties between 1990-92 at Disco 2000 and The Building. If I'm not wrong, he wasn't a big mess on drugs. The music and underground culture was amazing to experience in the early nineties.
Thank you Guy, That must have been an amazing experience At Disco 2000! The research for the vid took several weeks, Your right, it was very sad to so see how badly things ended for him
It's really crazy cause he wasn't alone the night he OD. His mom has even stated that on her social media and in certain groups I'm in for him❤ The police were not called till a hr later and there was atleast 3 ppl there. Weirdly Keiko payed the landlord 40 dollars to go grab what he wanted. He now sells his stuff at his shows and gets donations in Aligs name🤬
This guy breaks my heart . A relic from my youth , and a fellow addict and artist. I feel like he expected a certain level of notoriety which was not fulfilled by his modest amount of success . I thought he was doing well, considering the lengthy prison sentence. Prison can be so detrimental mentally. Too much too soon. RIP .
@BCP 17 years in RIKER'S for manslaughter? I don't think so. Obviously, redemption is not a word you can wrap your head around. So, Freeze, the club kid that actually hit Angel to get him to STOP CHOKING my friend for money, did less time. The rich boy that was there did NO time. They railroaded him, and ignorant people like you, just keep mouthing.
@@mjreikiriot3302 michael paroled later for several reasons. He was infamous from the movie and documentary, he kept failing drug tests in prison and most importantly he admitted that he dismembered angel. They are lucky they didnt get 25 to life. I liked michael but im looking at this objectively.
Sad story all around. It was an entirely different world when he came out of prison, he was no longer a "kid" but a convicted murderer. Angel was dead and so much potential lost. If Michael had never picked up a drug, Angel would still be alive (hopefully) and who knows what Michael could have achieved. Drugs and Fame are a dangerous cocktail.
I fondly remember my days working with Michael and Ernie on The Pee-ew! Everybody has a past and yes he did something horrific, but he was a good friend to me and I will miss him❤️
“Everybody has a past”. Yes we do, but raise your hand if you murdered someone, then rolled them up in a rug and tossed them out with the garbage…. I’ll wait to see how many hands I get before I try to ‘normalize’ it like you attempt to do here. There’s a REASON why society shuns murder….
WOW this was an amazing video!A lot I didn't know But Very sad. I still feel bad for Angel and his family! Whats Crazy is Michael died the same day and way as my cousin OD but she was 23 😕. Hope your doing well and I am so happy to see your videos again 😘❤🧡💛💚💙💜💋💋💋
@@RetroRoomYT yea im doin pretty well. But your so right Holidays are very hard for many! So unfortunately if they dont OD some turn to suicide 💔🙏🏻 Glad to hear your doin well though!
This was a great video, and an emotional one. Thank you for making it. I know that he was a flawed human but I always had empathy for him. It seems to be a relief for many that he has passed. He won't be forgotten for good or for bad but he and his comtemporaries had a huge effect on pop culture and I salute them for it. I hope Ernie keeps up his creativity. I admire him more than most.
Why didn’t he move with his mum? Last I knew of, she was still alive. Also, this was a well done video minus the voice over music. I feel like your voice was the same amount of loud as the music. I need to hear your voice more. But you did a great job other than that! Thanks for your hard work in putting this together.
Background music makes this tough to listen to
Alig got high on his own supply, believing that he was "too good" for a normal job and hoping that his "celebrity" would support him and allow him to coast through life. Sadly, that was not the case. I know all the players, Michaels problem is that he never grew up.
Peter pan syndrome
I mean yeah?! No shit lol! He earned a living in the same way from the time he was a teenager to the moment he went into prison. He had the red carpet rolled out as soon as he was released- everyone wanted him to be involved in different projects that had been waiting for his release. It was already predetermined & he did what anyone would naturally do. He actually tried to make a real effort to work & make an honest living which can't be said for the majority of felons who spent almost 20 years in federal prison.
I think he had a conscience. But it was a different world. He was lost and the people there for him were the last people he needed to be around. He should've gone away quietly; stayed sober and rebuilt his life. You can't leverage his kind of fame..
well failure to grow up was one problem. Narcissistic sociopathy was another.
This is an oversimplification of a way bigger problem.
I'm met him at this club in Manhattan in like 2018. We briefly met, and he gave me very nice compliments, but he was definitely high on something. I remember telling my friend after I met him, " he should've NEVER moved back to NYC, he's just gonna get back into drugs again". And he we are....
Lmfaoooooo “Get back into drugs” He NEVER stopped. He literally admitted to doing drugs nonstop in prison. That’s why he was in solitary for years.
Good it's called karma and natural selection. He honestly didn't deserve to ever breath free air again. He was a worthless murdering junkie
@@jenniferburton7044ok, at first I thought that could go either way. But I think that queen took Ketamine, and I bet that would make the time fly in prison. He was the worst
Always happens!
Like where tf else was he supposed to go 😂??
I know he had a hard life and was a drug addict but he was objectively a bad person and a murderer, his art was just recreations of other people's more popular designs and an obvious sign of his ongoing obsession with Warhol. Video is great but I hate how people are so forgiving of someone that made the choice to not only violently murder someone but toss them out like garbage.
Thanks,
He was definitely in a losing battle with his demons. I don’t know how many of his former club kids really forgave him, aside from the ones who believed that Robert Riggs, was actually the killer. It’s hard to say, for sure. But I know many of them just used him to get publicity and to make money. There was a few very shady characters in that group and Alig may have been the shadiest of them
He was a con artist.
Imagine defending a murderer lol. I bet you are cool with pedophilia too
"There are no bad people, there are just people who make bad choices." lol sorry no clue where I even heard that.
@@amyphillips1033 There absolutely are bad people, I've met some.
His depiction in Party Monster was so incredibly toned down to how loud, obnoxious, and gregarious he was in real life. I remember the Club Kids entourage when they came to Dallas and spent months in our rave culture. They were like Killer Clowns from Outer Space. Lookup any of their appearances on talk shows. How could he be irritated by his depiction in Party Monster? Even his death proves he had No self control and didn't listen to James St. James top rule, not to ever touch Heroin. Michael was very obviously Bi Polar. His mania and subsequent Crashes were the bane of his existence. That mixed with the drugs were a powder keg
Gay men are very often depressed and addicted to narcotics. I read that alot of them view their own gayness as a deficit, and when they realize the men they have to date share the same “deficit” as them, they struggle with that. This breeds bitterness and s3xual frustration and many turn to booze, group orgies and addiction to cope. Very sad.
Oh yeah, it was Michael Alig that interviewed Desmond the "drag kid," with a massive painting behind him with the word, "Rohypnol." How weird to have two grown men on either side a kid, interviewing him, and the kid looking doped up, in front of that painting.
Positively twisted !!!!!!!
G R O S S !!!!!!!!
"Ptoject x" says it all..
Yeah that disturbed the hell out of me.. Shame on Desmond's mother..
Omfg. Desmond was not, "doped up"...why doesn't anyone talk about Desi being on the spectrum, and drag helped him out with so much? The guys (The Peeew hosts), helped him with exposure to the dragcon type world, leading to meeting RuPaul, leading to being on Vogue twice etc...His mother was well-aware what she was doing to help her son's career and he is a happy well-adjusted kid...even outside the bullying he received at school for his identity. Michael's paintings were all over that set/apartment. It really says a great deal about the perverted masses that that is where they jumped with the whole interview. Very sad people are so bigoted they see crime everywhere. Except when someone like, Corey Feldman, says "Hey, these specific people abused me and other kids"...then, no one listens...but we must protect the children!
Wow a paroled murderer claims his good name was slandered. Boo hoo. When’s Angel Melenendez’s family’s parole? They are living a life sentence of grief.
Angel was a drug dealer not a saint.
Wow..a drug dealer having a tragic end??? Poor innocent victim 🙄I mean after all drug dealing is a victimless crime that doesn’t affect entire families and communities. Profiting off the misery of others, and you meet a miserable end. I am shocked.
He did the time. Get off your moral high horse.
@@clunkasjowls427that is true a drug dealer not a murder.. just bcuz he soled drugs it doesn’t mean he should be brutally killed.. my goodness
@@clunkasjowls427 Fasciste
A man was killed like trash,and to glamorize the killer is a sociopathic in itself. James St. James was an opportunist who used Alig for profit and Alig didn't have enough sense to know because Alig was a sociopathic narcissist. However, the guilt took its toll and Alig died of heroin overdose in 2020.
@@kevinharris3993 Agreed. I dont have much regard for St. James either.
This is accurate.
I personally think James is just as much a sociopath as Michael was....that's why there were so competitive & why they were always up each others asses. They were both jealous of each other. They were toxic together. James used him in the end.
Thank god! May be rest in hell!
The background music seems wayyy too loud
Thank you for this. Through your channel and the Peew, I'd sort of kept up on Alig until around 2019. He even replied to one of my comments way back when. But I was clueless about the last year or so of his life. Now I know. It's hard to feel pity for him, but at the same time I know all too well what addiction can do to a person, so... I just hope the family of his victim have finally been able to find peace, as well as Michael.
Amen 🙏
I went to his Outrage parties and hung out with him one-on-one several times before things got too toxic for me and I quit that whole scene. He wasn't even that fun to be around because he was so neurotic about his "work," i.e. relentless self-promotion. When I heard the news that he'd fatally OD'd finally, I wasn't surprised, and I don't pity him at all because he sure as hell didn't give a shit about anyone else.
Well put!
For someone who fucked up as bad as he did he sure was given tons of opportunities and second chances once paroled.
Alig was the bohemian equivalent of a jock who peaked in high school. His art was derivative. And being visibly high is cute when you’re 20 and in bad taste after you’re 30 😂
He made more money than any highschool jock & changed counterculture forever so this is a lousy & lazy comparison.
@@yumyumbumblebee you think he changed the counterculture? That is a bold claim…
@@AmyPieterse how old were you in 1995?
Could not put it better’ had my day been clean nearly 8 years. Not good look ‘ just plain sad bad. One lov 🇬🇧Jh 🎼🤪
@@yumyumbumblebeeOne instance of his changing of the "counterculture" please,cheers bud. Imo his actions are why he is remembered not because of his "talent"...
“People are always saying my personality is infectious , but this is ridiculous! “ . What a quote .
Like aids
He was so funny even though he was kind of a bad person it’s sad
Great video. I was friends with Michael 's victim Angel. A truly nice guy .
It was a really crazy time ...but that murder was still shocking.
Thank you for making this video. I did watch bits and pieces of the Pew channel but it always felt so lo-fi and grimy, I just didn't really get into most of it. I had no idea about the various controversies and missteps. You always have so much information to give us.
Thank you, Ken George Jones. I'm glad you liked it!
His story literally is what I cite as why I've never got into the drug scene. His partys were art and lit af. That being said, these comments are brutal.
It's sad when people who are obviously creative have no soul or conciousness.
He was all soul, so don’t judge
It's crazy seeing former Club Kids, now in their late 50s and 60s.
why? everyone gets old
yeah, they all look like shit ,those drugs did a number. Rupaul only looks good because he's had a dozen surgeries & wears drag makeup, lol. James looks like a crypt keeper now.
Man, his last 6 years was rough....
Lol almost as rough as Angel's. 🙄
This was an absolute great video to watch! Thank you! You did such a great job! Thank you
Thank you Melissa!
I appreciate your comment 🙏
This was very well done, it reminded me how much I enjoyed your videos on the club kids. I'm sure I can speak for a lot of people that you have been missed.
Thank you so much ☺️ Marigold!
It was well done!
Really enjoying this series! But, may I make a suggestion? Plz cover Angel Melendez's story more thoroughly! I have watched so much media in this case, and still, all that I know of him is that he sold drugs...and I know there is more there. I did hear that he and his brother immigrated to America from Columbia in the 1970's, and you know that there has to be an epic story about that. Any who, keep up the great work!
Thanks Elizabeth Paxton, I appreciate the comment. Information on Angel is difficult to find but, I am going to cover him, more thoroughly
He was a ghey Columbian drug dealer. Yup that about sums it up. What more is there to say. Alig is the star. Always have, always will.
@@RetroRoomYT his brother may want you to get his story out there. I forget his name, but there are documentaries out there from when Angel went missing before he was found on the shores of Staten Island in a tv box from Macys where his family, specifically his brother, pleaded for his return or for information on him. That might be somewhere to start.
I feel like it’s the racism in the true crime crime stories. Just look at how spoke glance over Dahmer’s immigrant victims.
@@TheAntiqBoutiq Johnny Melendez
Your videos are very well thought out and done. Thank you!
Thank you Clermont Florida, I appreciate that 🙏
Why anyone would glorify this psychopath is beyond me.
There’s something about him that is very unsettling (besides the horrific crime he committed). Btw glad to see you’re back!
Thank you Jacob 😊
And I agree with you
Great video. Factual & brilliantly explained. Thank you. PS love the new format! 😍
Thank you 🙏 Cece!
Thank you for piecing this all together in less than 20 minutes ✨️
I love this!!!! Very informative, very well done!!!
Thank you 🙏
Hey Retro Room,I have been subbed to you since your literal beginning. Of course life has been going on,quite a few deaths,including my beloved only child,Jacob, forever 18.He was so young when I would watch ur channel daily.I used to comment alot.I gotta binge watch ur videos I missed.So happy you r still doing this.So proud,n this was another great video doll!
Thank you Kimberly,
I’m sorry for your loss.
It’s been a difficult few years
Thank you for sticking with the channel and being one of the O G subscribers! ♥️
I don't know why but this is the first notification I've got from your channel in a long time. I now have lots of unseen videos to check out. So glad to see you are still going.
Thanks Dmviewing!
Yep, same here.
Same here!
Im surpurised he didnt overdose years go finally caught up with him
Thank you for sharing. From 1990 - 1994 I lived in a 30,000 sqf warehouse downtown Dallas (4404 Main Street/ 4404 Productions) and put on the biggest of DJ featured events. That's when I meet and got to know Michael. Avant-guard was his style and a 'gentle giant' he was. I evented Danger in Deep Space 03/27/1993 and flew down Michael, Ern Glam, Christopher Comp, Astro Earl, Waltpaper, Desi Monster and Eva Destruction... Dallas never recovered from when we next day (still up) I tour guided them to the Galleria Mall, Macy's, J.C Pennies... As Astro would say "awshit, we let'em have it!"
What a fuking story my friend
Dang BB your production value is soooo good now. You've made strides. Glad to see you posting again
Thanks Kelsey,
I’m glad you like them 😊
I am definitely happy to be back!
Just rewatching… feels like a great day to binge Retro Room. Again! ❤️
I couldn’t agree more! ❤️❤️🥰 thank you 🙏
This was absolutely, without question, your best upload. It answered so many questions and closed so many holes in Michael’s story. Thank you. May Angel and Michael both rest in peace.
Thank you 🙏 so much Barbara!
I spent weeks researching this one
I doubt their resting in peace
Imagine someone saying "May Ted Bundy and Kimberly Leach both rest in peace" that's how backwards you sound
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Thank you for this. Great Video hun 💓💔💓
Thanks Mardi, I’m glad you liked it ♥️❤️♥️
Imagine going to prison in the 90's, getting out in the 2010's and everyone's petitioning against you in a world dominated by social media...... that would be depressing. Even if you committed a heinous crime.
Boo hoo poor Michael.
@@rubywarner34 who cares if the murderer was depressed?
It was always gonna end like this.
Lauding yet another narcissistic "creative" personality is just like any other. He was an attention seeking criminal. Why wasn't he incarcerated for life?
Wow, this still leaves more questions than answers. Seems like Ernie Glam was one of very few real friends Michael had. I feel bad for Ernie and felt he was trying so hard and was confronted with things he shouldn't have. I used to watch their channel and just felt like Michael was going off the rails and suspected he had returned to his old self destructive behaviors, like when they went through his lunch box with the short straws etc. I'm sure enough people mooched to get something and threw him away, but he made it worse. Oh well, maybe he and everyone involved can have peace. Thanks for posting!!. ❤️❤️❤️
I think you are right, psychospacecadet
Ernie and Rachel Cain were probably the only ones who were willing to give him a second chance. Unfortunately, Michaels demons got the better of him
@@RetroRoomYT Also, club kids: Whillyem Thrillwell, Megan Jett, and Natasha Komis of MTV fame...forgave him and tried to help the best they could to keep him alive and smiling. He got in with a bad dude the last year, that really pulled him down.
Actually, Michael had quite a few ~real~ friends, but bonding with other human beings didn't exactly come naturally to him. It's difficult to be friends with someone who has no empathy and a big, childish ego. For some reason, Ernie just never stopped making excuses for Michael like the rest of us did once we quit drinking the Kool-Aid.
@@mjreikiriot3302 Oh, please. Michael loved every minute of the drama and attention he got from both Jay (the "bad dude") and all of us who witnessed that shitshow. I was actually dumb enough at first to think I could somehow rescue him from that whole situation, but then I realized playing the battered wife was just another costume he enjoyed wearing, and in front of an audience.
@@user-kb8qw7dy4t Patterns are difficult to break, and I wasn't speaking of Jay (Jose), I was talking about the spoiled, Alceo, that stole 6 grand from him, kicked him out of his place all the time, and even put him back in jail in CT in Spring of 2020...which I had to bail him out of so he didn't die of COVID in some crappy podunk town. I can honestly say he cried more tears than the jaded hearts will ever believe. He enjoyed when people treated him well, but like many, he'd take bad attention over nothing. Growing up without healthy parents can do that.
He had a second chance and blew it again.
Well done, thank you!
Thanks Terri Jo Films 🙏
I WANT TO SEE INTERVIEWS OF ANGEL'S FAMILY AND FRIENDS!! RIP
So crazy... I remember when he got on Facebook and we had regular conversations until he wanted me to come to NY. He was getting very pushy and basically demanding that I come. It wasn't a scam artist, as we talked via FaceTime.
I know that sounds unbelievable, but it's true. Random
World of Wonder also does RuPauls Drag Race, which will never not be crazy to me.
It’s like the urban legend of Mr. Rogers being a former sniper. It’s just too disjointed
WOW is mainly owned by Rupaul & James St. James. They used that company to make Party Monster to get rich.
Michael alig lost no time trying to ingratiate himself back into the nyc gay community. Not surprising, most took a pass. He spent his last years trading sex and his declining charisma for housing and drugs
Dang wasn't expecting to wake up to a video from you ! What a pleasant surprise. Hope life has been well for you
Thanks Jessie 🥰
I’m doing well
I hope you are too!
He actually was at the Glory Daze premier at the Players Theater on McDougal street in NYC, as was I. He didn't, however, participate in a Q and A after the screening with Michael Musto and Ramon Fernandez.
It's so sad to see Michael when he was very young and think how he could have made a huge go of his life then seeing how it panned out.... So sad.
Michael Alig aged well. He really was a handsome, charismatic man and a talented artist.
It’s so sad that he used his powers for evil.
Art was trash
I don’t even see how. Some of his outfits looked awful and really dumb. Still intriguing he basically started himself a successful buisness just from partying. If he wasn’t stupid as a kid and bragging about his drug use and how the club allows it they would’ve lasted much longer also not killing someone and talking about it. He would’ve gotten away with it most likely. He wanted attention for it in some way. No one knows what actually happened in the murder to. They didn’t even recognize the guys race correctly by the time they found him. That’s how much luck he had getting away with it and the cops didn’t care at all until they needed to
what happened to all his awesome memorabilia collection ??
Alig should have quietly faded into the background and got a regular job and tried to his enjoy his freedom instead of trying to keep all that fame going!
He had a second chance at life, you would think that he would not have used drugs again. They didn't do him any favors before.
Didnt know he died. So he died from the demon that always haunted him.
Who paid for Angles funeral?
Thank you for doing this. I didn’t want it to end! ❤️🔥
Welcome ❤
I can't take your background noise...too loud!
I love it. What an appropriate and thorough final installment to biography you've made on the
Iife and legend that this man lived. I would have to say at this point especially you are the very final word in the cataloging and Documenting of Michael Alig's legacy.
Thank you 🙏 Courtney!
I definitely appreciate that
Dude wasn't a legend, rofl.
he didn't cut his leg while scouting locations He was shooting up in his leg so his arms would not look like raw meat!
While I don't doubt it. Can you prove it?
I wanna know.. how the hell do you 'trespass' in a park?!?!?!?!
So happy to see you're back
Thanks Chris! 🙏
It’s good to be back!
You said "it was around this time that Alig learned that the sequel to party monster wouldn't be released until after his passing"
Ima nees you to do better bc that don't make sense baby. Love this channel tho.
As all the Club Kids always said “life is too short just enjoy it ! He lived his party time at his age, unfortunately bad things happen, someone lost its life, he went to jail he paid his time. Went out and life wasn’t shining lights like the clubs. Well said now his in peace. Rip for both of them Alig and Angel.
Wow really enjoyed watching this it was very insightful to watch, hopefully now Michael can finally Rest In Peace!
Thank you 🙏
I hope so too
The man, the monster, the murderer. There I fixed it.
Don't go into journalism, your headlines would be clunky and cliche.
@@mjreikiriot3302 you sound bitter about the truth 😬😬😬
I would love to watch your channel but,the background music is far too loud. 🌼
I appreciate this video...well done. Been following Michael's story for a long time. Misunderstood for sure.
I’m glad you liked it 🙏 fmercury05
He really was just actung like he didn't chopped up a human being right?! Like he really thought he was a celebrity
But he did serve a 20 years sentence, he's never spoken about his crime lightly, certainly never about the victim in derogatory terms, and never boasted about the murder. Also, he did say he repented. What more could he have done?
You did a very good job of putting together the video. I imagine it took a lot of time. It's sad to see how badly things turned out in his life. I use to attend his parties between 1990-92 at Disco 2000 and The Building. If I'm not wrong, he wasn't a big mess on drugs. The music and underground culture was amazing to experience in the early nineties.
Thank you Guy,
That must have been an amazing experience
At Disco 2000!
The research for the vid took several weeks,
Your right, it was very sad to so see how badly things ended for him
retro room- i could listen to your voice all day!!!🖤
Thank you angel 🙏 🥰
Gosh the background music is drowning out your narration. 😢
Good job!!!! Very nicely done
Thank you, Wendygo09
does anyone know if there have been any updates on the shockumentary sequel since his death?
A sign of the times. People believed the surface but ignored the evil beneath.
One of my fav channels!
I want to be able to hear this review but Background music is way too loud can’t watch this vid.
I really ALMOST shed a tear. I didn’t know he passed until now.
Outstanding post. Thank you.
I didn’t know he passed. Sad story. Drug addiction is fucking horrific man 😢
Very true, Leila 😔
It's really crazy cause he wasn't alone the night he OD. His mom has even stated that on her social media and in certain groups I'm in for him❤ The police were not called till a hr later and there was atleast 3 ppl there. Weirdly Keiko payed the landlord 40 dollars to go grab what he wanted. He now sells his stuff at his shows and gets donations in Aligs name🤬
This guy breaks my heart . A relic from my youth , and a fellow addict and artist. I feel like he expected a certain level of notoriety which was not fulfilled by his modest amount of success . I thought he was doing well, considering the lengthy prison sentence. Prison can be so detrimental mentally. Too much too soon. RIP .
You are a vile disgusting human. Imagine feeling sad that a narcissistic murderer who literally chopped someone up into a thousand pieces. Seek help.
@BCP 17 years in RIKER'S for manslaughter? I don't think so. Obviously, redemption is not a word you can wrap your head around. So, Freeze, the club kid that actually hit Angel to get him to STOP CHOKING my friend for money, did less time. The rich boy that was there did NO time. They railroaded him, and ignorant people like you, just keep mouthing.
@@mjreikiriot3302 michael paroled later for several reasons. He was infamous from the movie and documentary, he kept failing drug tests in prison and most importantly he admitted that he dismembered angel. They are lucky they didnt get 25 to life. I liked michael but im looking at this objectively.
@@mjreikiriot3302 his testing positive for drugs is what kept him in for so long.
@@mjreikiriot3302 rich boy?
What you've expertly chronicled is nothing short of a beautiful flowering - and withering - of evil.
Sad story all around. It was an entirely different world when he came out of prison, he was no longer a "kid" but a convicted murderer. Angel was dead and so much potential lost. If Michael had never picked up a drug, Angel would still be alive (hopefully) and who knows what Michael could have achieved. Drugs and Fame are a dangerous cocktail.
@12:15 who was the child celebrity on the show??
Child drag "star" Desmond is amazing.
I fondly remember my days working with Michael and Ernie on The Pee-ew! Everybody has a past and yes he did something horrific, but he was a good friend to me and I will miss him❤️
“Everybody has a past”. Yes we do, but raise your hand if you murdered someone, then rolled them up in a rug and tossed them out with the garbage…. I’ll wait to see how many hands I get before I try to ‘normalize’ it like you attempt to do here. There’s a REASON why society shuns murder….
Great video should have way more views
Thanks Mary 🙏
Hope your doing ok and thanks for that fire video your so good at what you do
Thanks Patrick!
Glad 😀 you liked it
OMG i just noticed that you have started uploading again!!!!!!!!!!
He was fabulous rip my favorite club kid
WOW this was an amazing video!A lot I didn't know But Very sad. I still feel bad for Angel and his family! Whats Crazy is Michael died the same day and way as my cousin OD but she was 23 😕. Hope your doing well and I am so happy to see your videos again 😘❤🧡💛💚💙💜💋💋💋
Thank you Jenn Lynn 🥰
I hope you are doing well too!
Too many people pass away on Christmas,
Especially from OD’s
It’s just a very hard for so many
@@RetroRoomYT yea im doin pretty well. But your so right Holidays are very hard for many! So unfortunately if they dont OD some turn to suicide 💔🙏🏻 Glad to hear your doin well though!
This was great! Another troubled soul finding peace. Life isn’t always what we expect it to be…He will be remembered, whether it’s good or bad…R.I.P.
Thanks Fabulous!
That’s a very true comment 💯
This was a great video, and an emotional one. Thank you for making it. I know that he was a flawed human but I always had empathy for him. It seems to be a relief for many that he has passed. He won't be forgotten for good or for bad but he and his comtemporaries had a huge effect on pop culture and I salute them for it. I hope Ernie keeps up his creativity. I admire him more than most.
Thank you 🙏 Sniffin
I agree and I hope Ernie keeps up his creativity too!
Wicked to his core
Ernie does and always has. :)
Thank you !
Why didn’t he move with his mum? Last I knew of, she was still alive.
Also, this was a well done video minus the voice over music. I feel like your voice was the same amount of loud as the music. I need to hear your voice more. But you did a great job other than that! Thanks for your hard work in putting this together.
I thought the music was too loud, almost overpowering his voice.
I was good friends with them both and it seems they were portrayed to be a certain way
Great commentary, what a crazy story
Yes, Thank you 🙏 Haydee Mullins 🙂
Great job! Glad to see you're back on You Tube making videos.
Thanks MozWildeFul
I’m glad to be back
Was my neighbor in Coxsackie prison, he was a good dude!
Excellent video...very informative 👍
Thank you!
Well done
merci beaucoup
You are welcome 🙏
The shirt they keep showing with Alig in big print I tried to find it I can't find it if anyone can help that would be great thank you