Emotional Cascades and Understanding the Chaos and Complexity of Borderline Personality Disorder

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    Dr. Selby specializes in the research and treatment of suicidal and self-injurious behavior, personality disorders, and eating disorders. A major focus of his research on these disorders involves emotion dysregulation and the use of self-sabotaging behaviors, such as binging and purging, self-injury, alcohol and substance use, fighting or reckless driving, to distract from upsetting emotions.
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  • @christymarie1413
    @christymarie1413 5 років тому +27

    Question #1 why do ppl engage in self injury w/o suicidal intent
    ANSWER- #4 to escape from the feelings emotional distress!!!!

  • @jaynesager3049
    @jaynesager3049 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for your hard work and support.

  • @wfsscience
    @wfsscience 7 років тому +40

    This was one of the most polished and outstanding presentations on the topic that I have heard. Actually, it's a model for how to give a clear presentation, period. Dr. Selby should be commended, as should the foundation for supporting his work and putting this online.

    • @kristokress4365
      @kristokress4365 2 роки тому

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    • @kathyadair8552
      @kathyadair8552 Рік тому

      Yes! Great presentation, indeed. - Quite fascinating!
      And, Wonderful work.
      As, I work on a Masters, post 4.5 years, eXtremely,? severe Complex/ "c-PTSD". (STILL? Since, it sounds like it didn't make it in to the New, "DSM-5 TR!")
      A Life-long "Sci. kid," 💞 🐬
      Former LPN, A. of Sc. + MHW.
      THANK YOU. ~ If, not Sub'd,* I will be!
      +Slight-mild Dysgraphia 💥 to 200+%, (If, that's possible.) so, Writing REHAB. For, an Old, SPL kid, too.
      Having had severe Dissociative Amnesia, from Over 1+ year of Nazi, 'Narcopathiic'' ABUSES; by 2 "Rt.W. Authoritarian"* bros.... Both, Cascading, that morning. And they enjoyed it!
      Oh, yeah, the Bocca Region for SP. & Lang, was 💥, too.
      + All 3 Nerv. Systems.

  • @sinead.
    @sinead. 2 роки тому +5

    I'm copying ur words down because they describe exactly how I feel in those moments this way I can explain it clearer and condensed to others when I need to thank you so much

  • @gfy2979
    @gfy2979 2 роки тому +11

    You can't really expect people to learn to react perfectly to bad environments, and that's how therapy fails so much I think. Therapy must be coupled with relocation services, job training and placement or at least temporary fast-tracked disability payments etc.

    • @ancabostinariu6550
      @ancabostinariu6550 Рік тому

      Correct

    • @dominiknewfolder2196
      @dominiknewfolder2196 2 місяці тому

      Maybe it would be better to teach women to not use abandonment to repress child's anger.
      After seeing what the average woman is doing I came to the point where I'm seeing every mother as an abuser in work.
      Years of work in households made this conclusion inescapable.

  • @paperballet
    @paperballet 8 років тому +11

    thank you. the "emotional cascade" research has been useful for me. I am so glad I found this! Great metaphors too. :)

  • @DaveWillmore
    @DaveWillmore 8 років тому +6

    Thank you for posting this presentation.

  • @latonyagriffin4826
    @latonyagriffin4826 7 років тому +2

    Thank you, Dr. Selby. This presentation was very helpful and gave me a much better understanding (personal & professional) of bpd.

  • @BeGioBijoux
    @BeGioBijoux 4 роки тому +3

    this helped me so much to understand this problem

  • @rakeshvarma4695
    @rakeshvarma4695 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent talk with easy to understand explanations and examples.

  • @BeGioBijoux
    @BeGioBijoux 4 роки тому +1

    Great content on the channel, especially this video. So helpful, congratulations to Dr Selby

  • @Jlneeds
    @Jlneeds 2 роки тому +2

    This has been very helpful, thank you

  • @muskduh
    @muskduh Рік тому

    thanks for the presentation

  • @samydj5400
    @samydj5400 5 років тому +2

    Very good

  • @kennymac8949
    @kennymac8949 3 роки тому +9

    This term borderline is misleading.Actually being a person who recently discovered that for 61 years I finally know what’s wrong with me.It is actually being born with no personality at all. That explains faking personalities .Being born with a unique personality is essential to living.People are born with physical challenges and emotional challenges.These conditions can be repaired,improved on or adapted .This is the same with a personality or a uniqueness that most people have.All the sociological problems(impulsiveness, drug use codependency or whatever)is simple.There is nothing in there bottomless pit to improve on.No foundation to build on.You fix something that never existed.you can’t possibly ever think that you can control your emotions if there is no foundation to return to.Actually the only practical way would be to inject an actual personality that any “normal “person was born with and then either depending on weather it was a good, or bad personality, Then you could use therapy on that if needed.

    • @kennymac8949
      @kennymac8949 3 роки тому +2

      I really don’t know if the experts already realize this and is too hard to tell patients that that is what wrong or not.Any “normal person” who suddenly lost there personality that they were born with and perhaps developed and in some cases even changed throughout there life would act out in all these negative ways not having any choice when their very emotional soul suddenly ceased to exist.people can only interact with effectively if both parties have a “way”about them.BPD people can only invent a “way”.They can not change or improve something that never existed.For this reason, I am OUT!!!

    • @luciamixon8119
      @luciamixon8119 3 роки тому +2

      I think you're on to something. Take care.

    • @tundranone8366
      @tundranone8366 2 роки тому +6

      As someone who's also been recently diagnosed with BPD, I agree completely... My whole life has been watching people take their internal source of guidance, their happy memories, and their values for granted. Then get angry at me for not being able to do things that come from those things. It's so sad to say, but I really am empty. I believe in treating people decently and with dignity and I love beauty. But that's all I have inside me and it's not enough.

    • @sonclearbrahman-ar1461
      @sonclearbrahman-ar1461 2 роки тому +3

      @Benny Pickerel Thank you. Your words are beacons of truth in a sea of sh*t.

    • @hydroxytriptamine3554
      @hydroxytriptamine3554 Рік тому +2

      This doesn’t apply to me personally, at least not in whole, not trying to offend you or anything. I had a personality up until I was 7-8, then for some reason things just went downhill from there. Before then I had been a happy child, brave, creative, curious, kind, no anger issues, loyal to friends. Right now I have no personality though or rather it changes as a function of my mood and environment

  • @bigballs3095
    @bigballs3095 4 роки тому +5

    These things hurt so Much i can barley watch them anymore and trying to think of attempting figuring out exactly whats going whats wrong with my head and how to better deal with my emotional cascades that cause me all kinda of stress and grief

  • @Creativeabandon
    @Creativeabandon 2 роки тому +1

    12 step program works for me for all 'symptoms'

    • @wendi2819
      @wendi2819 Рік тому +1

      Yes. There's a wonderful set of rules. I had an addiction counselor back in the 1980s before DBT was even known about. She told me that a psychiatrist told her by following a 12 Step recovery plan is able to restore or train just about every type of psychic pain. Now that I've read a lot about DBT, 12 Steps are very similar.

  • @denisepresnell2800
    @denisepresnell2800 5 років тому

    Thank you!

  • @lilysunshine3447
    @lilysunshine3447 3 роки тому

    How much research is compiled of each scientist that is pro forming the research and the theory perspectives taken into consideration? What are their backgrounds in relationship to the study? Have algorithms patterns been used to find correlation to pattern development of the causes of emotions. Such as historical emotions Epigenetics coupled with being reintroduced to an event? Is Mindfulness, doing puzzles, exercises another way of teaching how to distract the person from addressing an unresolved trigger event(s)?

    • @dominiknewfolder2196
      @dominiknewfolder2196 2 місяці тому

      Don't waste your time 😂
      BPD is rooted in "mommy" using abandonment to repress a child's anger provoked by maltreatment from her side.
      It's that easy.
      Only "professionals" can't see it because they love mommy too much.
      Yeah, poor women 😂

  • @charlieangkor8649
    @charlieangkor8649 5 років тому +1

    the audio is kinda weak and difficult to understand. the letters on the graph so tiny I can’t read them even fullscreen on a retina display.

    • @virtuallyrealistic
      @virtuallyrealistic 5 років тому +1

      Charlie Angkor If you hold down the ‘home’ button and tap the quit button you can save the charts to your pictures folder, ( its called taking a screen shot) When you look at your pictures use two fingers to zoom in, too much zoom and it gets too fuzzy.

  • @malakoth
    @malakoth 4 роки тому +6

    Id love for one these doctors to reach out to me and figure out my brain.....i can assure you im quite odd

  • @krystalk6457
    @krystalk6457 7 років тому +1

    can anyone explain the difference between gentically and biologically... the difference in BPD.

    • @marcycarson2130
      @marcycarson2130 7 років тому

      No one knows whether it's genetic or learned behavior. Not all experts agree on this. Some believe it isn't curable and some do. Some experts believe it all has to do with a borderline learning at an early age that they can get a reward if they manipulate the reward giver.

    • @suzsiz
      @suzsiz 6 років тому +3

      Many factors to concider. Emotional dysregulation is biologically in the brain. There's some miscommunications between the different regions of the brain that controls impulsitivity, mood and emotions. What can cause the emotional dysregulation can be be a mix of factors such as trauma, genetic disposition, stress-vulnerability disposition and more.

  • @sinead.
    @sinead. 2 роки тому

    Aaha...you just described the past 48 hours. so grateful I didn't lose the plot. At one point I sensed a pseudoseizure possibly percolating. Couple of days ago was Labor Day. Not surprised.

  • @G3.9-6
    @G3.9-6 Рік тому +1

    My adult daughter is 21 and refuses to believe she needs help. She was diagnosed with BPD w/ narcissistic traits & behavioral problems at the age of 13 . She believes that I am the one who needs help and that everyone else is the problem. She has sabotaged all her relationships in life & most people don’t want to be around her, including family members. I have no idea what else to do.

    • @playsavedthechild.2848
      @playsavedthechild.2848 Рік тому +2

      Doesn't sound easy. Hope she finds some good friends. Or one. And someone that meets her... where she is. Peace to both of you...

    • @G3.9-6
      @G3.9-6 Рік тому +1

      @@playsavedthechild.2848 thank you!

    • @playsavedthechild.2848
      @playsavedthechild.2848 Рік тому

      @@G3.9-6 Can you spare energy?
      Can you give her time where she dictates what you will be doing?
      I played with an Autistic child...
      and from the happiness and connection... and the child giving direction... his agency developed.
      But it took lots of my energy.
      And he is in a better place. It was mostly worth it.
      It wasn't perfect... but since then I advocate PLAY...incase there is virtue.
      *with BPD I think... for someone I was not available emotionally... because I was focussed on the child in seemingly more need ... but others were neglected.
      And it is NOT EASY being there for this person. Still thinking on my strategy...
      But the person is "grownup" now...
      ...
      What now?!

    • @playsavedthechild.2848
      @playsavedthechild.2848 Рік тому

      @@G3.9-6 Busy doing some homework on BPD : eg ua-cam.com/video/Pstv6FZZlQw/v-deo.html
      If you have suggestions please pass on this way...

    • @playsavedthechild.2848
      @playsavedthechild.2848 Рік тому +1

      @@G3.9-6 @Ma I watch reparenting self by Tim Fletcher,
      and videos by Dr. Gabor Maté... and connection & authenticity.
      We don't have a rulebook to life.
      We make it up as we go.
      We are not perfect... but that is the part of perfection... we create.
      Can be good to do it together...
      as family...
      *see if you can manage... and then come back and tell me how... because ir having a hard time with it ... too.
      **Still wishing you luck.
      -perhaps that was my only neccessary message, but now I've added three.

  • @bigballs3095
    @bigballs3095 4 роки тому +4

    I started cutting moved into burning cuz it felt better for longer if that makes any sense. I usually burned myself or lit myself on fire or tried to dye by driving recklessly so i hopefully didn’t have to physically kill myself cuz im to much of a coward to do it. And it was always to escape feelings of emotional distress. Ive had all my issues from probably infancy as far as i can remember cuz i cant but anyways. around kindergarten grade one ish or grade two somewhere in there i have a series of memories from kindergarten and i think grade one or two. Im not even sure but the very few and only pieces of evidence i have to try and piece any of my life together at all and why i feel how i do and what might of caused these deep seeded life effecting
    issues.

  • @YaksBall8
    @YaksBall8 2 роки тому +2

    This is from 6 years ago... Yet, here we all are... keep working ou yourselves, ppl, there IS a way to not be like this! At least, that's I'm trying to remind myself of lol

  • @sheilajowoodraska1526
    @sheilajowoodraska1526 8 років тому +5

    What behaviors separate BPD and PTSD(excluding self-harm/suicide)

    • @vanderbam2741
      @vanderbam2741 2 роки тому +2

      @@Ceekeyz people with BPD can definitely be cruel. They frequently are, if they think someone will abandon them.

  • @jmpsthrufyre
    @jmpsthrufyre 4 роки тому +2

    Can I donate a brain for study? It's not mine though. And does it by law have to be removed after death only?

  • @LarryP248
    @LarryP248 6 місяців тому

    This content is a revelation. I read a book on a similar subject that drastically altered my life. "Mindful Mastery: Living Intentionally in a Chaotic World" by Kyle Ash

  • @mikestain5963
    @mikestain5963 2 роки тому +4

    The real question should be what can a person with BPD do for family members. No one seems to care about their victims

    • @teddmented
      @teddmented 2 роки тому

      call 911

    • @lani2894
      @lani2894 2 роки тому +1

      I feel the same way. Their getting all this attention for being horrible human beings. Plain and simple “Treat people how you want to be treated”. Now everyone Has BPD like it’s a “cool thing”. People with BPD will drive a “Normal” person nuts.

    • @mikestain5963
      @mikestain5963 2 роки тому

      @@lani2894 "nuts" is an understatement of the year. Hah. I literally almost killed myself.

    • @lani2894
      @lani2894 2 роки тому

      @@mikestain5963 Trust me, I understand. I Never felt so unstable in my life.

  • @susanauger3758
    @susanauger3758 Рік тому

    4

  • @tundranone8366
    @tundranone8366 2 роки тому +4

    I wish people who didn't have BPD weren't allowed to "teach" about it. I felt either invalidated, insulted, or directly triggered by most of this presentation and it offered very little useful information in return.

    • @tiffanysparkz2757
      @tiffanysparkz2757 2 роки тому

      @@mikestain5963 do you feel better now?

    • @mikestain5963
      @mikestain5963 2 роки тому +1

      @@tiffanysparkz2757 kinda

    • @aurusha7250
      @aurusha7250 2 роки тому

      @@mikestain5963 extremely insensitive. Don't comment on what you don't understand

    • @mikestain5963
      @mikestain5963 2 роки тому

      @@aurusha7250 you are right. Sorry

    • @hydroxytriptamine3554
      @hydroxytriptamine3554 Рік тому

      @@mikestain5963 I have BPD and disagree with the original comment. BPD folk are some of the least self aware people in existence. They blame everything and never take any responsibility

  • @engleharddinglefester4285
    @engleharddinglefester4285 5 років тому

    Best way to get money for research is to promise you'll try to find a way to utilize one of those g-d cell phones in your solution.

  • @mallory5872
    @mallory5872 5 років тому +5

    What can family members do? Stop hurting people.

    • @wynngwynn
      @wynngwynn 2 роки тому

      lol, this made me laugh but it's also accurate lol.

    • @aristotleemerson3248
      @aristotleemerson3248 2 роки тому +4

      Family members of one with BPD cannot stop hurting the person with BPD, because it does not matter what the family members do or say. The person with BPD will ALWAYS feel hurt. That's the nature of the disorder. Often the only thing that they can ultimately do is to walk away.

    • @teddmented
      @teddmented 2 роки тому +1

      It’s literally impossible not to trigger someone with severe bpd

    • @Stopnormalizingviolence
      @Stopnormalizingviolence Рік тому

      @@aristotleemerson3248 That's not true at all.

    • @Stopnormalizingviolence
      @Stopnormalizingviolence Рік тому

      @@teddmented Wrong. If you bother to learn their triggers, and care about them enough to try your best to avoid them, you can have a great relationship with them.

  • @marcycarson2130
    @marcycarson2130 7 років тому +4

    Self injury is always rewarded though.. self responsibility is not. This is screwed up.

    • @marcycarson2130
      @marcycarson2130 7 років тому +2

      It's been a while since I watch this but I have been unfortunately, around borderlines. If you've ever listen to what a borderline is telling others it's all about manipulation. Whether a borderline is aware of it or not, manipulation hurts the borderline in the long run it also hurts the people they are manipulating. Most borderlines are aware that they are manipulating someone, and being aware means that they are choosing their illness over choosing to get well.

    • @marcycarson2130
      @marcycarson2130 7 років тому

      A attention

    • @marcycarson2130
      @marcycarson2130 7 років тому +2

      Sorry about that, it was an I Pad typo I didn't catch. You asked how self injury was always rewarded. The reward is attention. Hurting your self distracts the mind and as you hurt yourself your attention is on the hurt or hurting rather than what ever it is in your mind that is bothering you. Hurting yourself is also used to gain sympathy from others, which is also attention. Attention is the answer to your question. I spoke of manipulation because this self hurting is a manipulation, however one looks at it. These negative manipulations only harm... they do not serve the best interests of anyone or anything.

  • @GnosisMan50
    @GnosisMan50 2 роки тому +1

    They analyze things to death.... enough already. We need a cure.

    • @antonyka-pra-ra
      @antonyka-pra-ra 2 роки тому

      radical acceptance of personal responsibility
      why radical?
      start practicing that you will tell yourself
      whatever the problem trauma or unexpected outcome is...
      that it is your fault
      of course a small percentage isn't
      but for this instance
      that isn't the point
      the point is to 'workout' the ability for personal responsibility
      with practice it will become stronger
      think of it in terms of moving on from crawl to be able to walk and then run

  • @brif2304
    @brif2304 Рік тому

    It’s unfortunate this speaker advocates for managing the emotional cascades instead of helping them get to the root of the emotional issues via a more effective therapy modality