What We Are Learning About Brain Biology and Borderline Personality Disorder

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  • Опубліковано 8 чер 2021
  • Each month The Brain & Behavior Research Foundation hosts a Meet the Scientist Webinar featuring a researcher discussing the latest findings related to mental illness. In June, 2021, the Foundation featured Dr. Anthony C. Ruocco of the University of Toronto.
    Description: In this presentation, Dr. Ruocco discusses his new research on the neurobiology of borderline personality disorder, including the familial risk for the disorder and the impacts of stress on brain structure and functioning. He also presents the results of his research funded by the Brain & Behavior Research Foundation examining the treatment of suicidal ideation and depression using magnetic seizure therapy in individuals with borderline personality disorder.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 245

  • @kahlodiego5299
    @kahlodiego5299 2 роки тому +119

    Imagine growing up never allowed boundaries but you must treat everyone else's boundaries with the utmost respect. Now your borderline (and it's all your fault.)

    • @happybergner9832
      @happybergner9832 2 роки тому +16

      When we turn 18, whether we caused it or not, it becomes our responsibility to fix ourselves.
      Fix the problem not the blame.

    • @kahlodiego5299
      @kahlodiego5299 2 роки тому

      @@happybergner9832 I hope you work in the mental health field.

    • @happybergner9832
      @happybergner9832 2 роки тому +2

      @@kahlodiego5299 🙏hopefully, someday

    • @kellimihalic116
      @kellimihalic116 Рік тому

      U spoke exactly what I feel. Wow!

    • @nancybartley4610
      @nancybartley4610 Рік тому +4

      Spot on! I can relate. We have to be perfect while those around us walk on us or just ignore our existence, and we let them. I think this is also the result of our upbringing. We lived with parents who put themselves first and didn't see us as having needs and feelings. We learned to take the little bit of attention we could get. If you had parents who took care of basics for you but ignored your emotional needs, you are primed and ready for going out into the adult world and getting more of the same. You expect it. We have to break this pattern. We will make mistakes as we do. But we have to learn to ask ourselves, "Does this feel good? Does this feel right? Is this what I want?" If the answers are no, even a little, disengage to the best of your ability. Do not act impulsively. Do not explain. Simply take yourself elsewhere. This can be hard at work. Plan that escape very carefully, slowly. If it is family treating you abusively, take control by minimizing contact. There are ways to do that, but they are too involved to cover here. Do your research on family. It may be necessary to go no contact. Proceed methodically and carefully on that,
      All the best to you. You can overcome this. Our parents failed us. We can save ourselves with time and education.

  • @cathywyman8103
    @cathywyman8103 Рік тому +61

    Therapy is very important to help manage BPD but sadly most of us cannot afford therapy and struggle with this disorder on our own.

    • @brandonalan8884
      @brandonalan8884 Рік тому +5

      Down load the DBT work book!

    • @Lorea464
      @Lorea464 2 місяці тому

      The drug oxcarbazepine helps me with impulsivity, irritability, anger,naggression and rage symptoms (stabilizes mood). Sadly its only approved for epilepsy so i have to pay full price but its worth it

  • @Astrid_Grace
    @Astrid_Grace 2 роки тому +60

    Whoever is reading this, please know: there’s no replacement for therapy. If I could “think” my way out of this problem, I would have by now. Lots of smart, successful people seek out therapy! Get help and get help and get help. Fight your ass off against this thing. Do the assignments from your therapist. On your own? Work on self-love, stress reduction, meditation and look for a hobby. Use the resources available. BPD is treatable!!! 🥰 A better life is possible for us all.

    • @kahlodiego5299
      @kahlodiego5299 2 роки тому

      Poor people with borderline are screwed. Clinic refer you out or give you rookies. You're abused and mistreated. Marsha Linehan talks about this. DBT is not even available in poor communities. So, it is treatable but like anything else in America you gotta have the bucks.

    • @MrBUGS713
      @MrBUGS713 2 роки тому +2

      Therapy will make you worse

    • @yojishinkawa378
      @yojishinkawa378 Рік тому +2

      That's a nice thought, but there are some of us who will never go to therapy, no matter what, ever. Just because you personally couldn't think your way out of it doesn't mean no one can.

    • @neilfox8230
      @neilfox8230 9 місяців тому

      thank you for sharing that

  • @nancybartley4610
    @nancybartley4610 2 роки тому +111

    Parents that do not talk, that do not express feelings, that do not process with their children and spouse what they are experiencing, that do not help children to learn how to cope with upsets, to know it is okay to be upset and that there are ways to work through the upset, make it very difficult for a child to learn emotional self-regulation. The child is left on his own to deal with the ups and downs of life in the home and outside of it. The child is alone inside his own head, confused and scared. Is it any wonder that rumination is the only tool available to the child? The child dialogues with himself in a desperate attempt to understand the world and to know how to react. It is the only avenue open and becomes hard wired as a way to cope. But the child is not capable of analyzing what he doesn't even understand and starts to run the same tape over and over: "Something is wrong with me; something is wrong with me." Pretty soon something is wrong with the kid. This is a kid without a basic tool kid for operating in the world. Every encounter is another time the recording is pushed: something is wrong with me and oh, how it hurts. Panic, run, repeat.

    • @myyinyang
      @myyinyang Рік тому +8

      Holy sh*t, Nancy. Well-captured and articulated. My upbringing described perfectly…at age 52, and diagnosed just four years ago, I’m trying to resolve. Ruminate on what I could have been, do I have time yet to be, and is it worth being. 🙏🏼

    • @nancybartley4610
      @nancybartley4610 Рік тому +12

      @@myyinyang Yes, you have time. Don't ever use the excuse that you don't have time. Fifty-two is young. My mom died at 95; her brother at 100. You could have another 50 years. But let's say you only have five years. Well, they're your five years. It is up to you, one minute to the next, to be the person you want to be. Nothing your parents did or didn't do should stop you. Start being what you want to be one little step at a time. Don't beat yourself up for failures. It is okay. Who is perfect? No one! Read everything you can. Listen to the great therapists and fellow travelers on the
      journey with you. You are not alone. Don't let your parents mistakes define you.
      All my best to you.

    • @KatJ3st
      @KatJ3st Рік тому +2

      @@nancybartley4610 You are brilliant Nancy, I hope you work with or coach people to be more mindful and connected.

    • @WildandFree4
      @WildandFree4 Рік тому +3

      I have bpd and my mother was qs you described. Father was absent

    • @grasshopperfiddler
      @grasshopperfiddler Рік тому +1

      Thank you Nancy, I very much appreciate your thoughtful comment

  • @karlahemphill3414
    @karlahemphill3414 Рік тому +37

    I'm a borderline and I feel like I feel pain in my brain all the time. I'm exhausted and have been for 67 years. I try so hard to gain peace and stop my pain. It works for about 3 seconds. I would love to feel stable for one day. I have never been able to .Stress sends me into the twilight zone

    • @user-fx8lr1gh7e
      @user-fx8lr1gh7e Рік тому +1

      Keep yo head up nigga n stay busy

    • @CMDD88
      @CMDD88 Рік тому

      magic mushrooms lol jk idk

    • @trod7709
      @trod7709 Рік тому

      I feel it in my heart a chest like I’m being stabbed

    • @rondasmith4037
      @rondasmith4037 10 місяців тому

      Couseling , Therapy and right Meds are extremely important!!! Finding something that makes one happy and fulfilled is very important as well!!!! Trying some new things helps the brain focus on something else. Something like taking a dance class, sewing class, pottery ect.... will focus the mind on a new and happy activity in which one could challenge him/herself to something new, fun and calming!!!!

    • @baritonechorister
      @baritonechorister 3 місяці тому

  • @samanthabrandon6173
    @samanthabrandon6173 2 роки тому +13

    I was diagnosed 7 years ago and refused to accept it. I already had enough 'labels'. Anorexic, alcoholic, drug addict, self-harm, suicide attempts..... It explains all my problems. I feel raw, emotionally. Extremely sensitive and yes use facial expressions as my guide

    • @distortionpedal
      @distortionpedal Рік тому

      have you actually got high functioning autism ?> I have that. but they also labeled me BPD. look in to neuro feedback therapy. it changed my life.
      I really feel for yah because life is really really hard when one has issues.... like where the fuck is the joy?

  • @earthlingYT
    @earthlingYT 2 роки тому +27

    We definitely notice emotions that those people don't want to acknowledge.

    • @elfglow4557
      @elfglow4557 2 роки тому +15

      Exactly! All of these researches are not taking into account how much people deny their own emotions are unaware or defensive about them. BPD is very good at picking emotions up. It’s easier to believe “normal” person that they were not supress if some issue trying to look normal than to believe person with bpd that they are just more aware of emotions. And this is the sad part. So all our lives we are denied and gaslighted even from well wishing people.

    • @earthlingYT
      @earthlingYT 2 роки тому +15

      I'm glad you understand.
      My borderline traits come from being abused and living with chronic PTSD. That means I developed hyper-vigilance and keen perception of others' feelings, in order to protect myself. I am sensitive and react strongly because my nervous system has been trained to do so. Living with elevated stress hormones does that to a person.

    • @vanderbam2741
      @vanderbam2741 2 роки тому +8

      No, you don't. The BPD brain has a distorted perception of other's expressions and tones of voice. It is extremely harmful to people around the person with untreated BPD as they are constantly being accused of being rude, cruel, mean, sarcastic etc when no such thing is happening.

    • @vanderbam2741
      @vanderbam2741 2 роки тому +5

      @@elfglow4557 no, people with BPD are very bad at picking emotions up. They have a distorted understanding of others' facial expressions and tones of voice. This is why they often accuse others of being rude or cruel when those people are doing no such thing. If you have a look at brain imaging of people with BPD vs people without, looking at the facial expressions of others, it's very clear.

    • @earthlingYT
      @earthlingYT 2 роки тому +2

      @@vanderbam2741 if you say so. sorry ' bout that.

  • @jromeo8247
    @jromeo8247 2 роки тому +118

    When will the day come when BPD isn't looked at as a disorder but that of one who has acute sensitivity issues based on childhood trauma? When will those who suffer from BPD be seen by society as a sense of belonging and find purposed outlets for this disorder? Where art and mental freedom has the ability to create not chaos but wonderous spontaneity? BPDs tend to be sympathetic and caring. They try the hardest to find the silver lining in a very harsh world. Maybe BPDs need to be looked at differently.

    • @jromeo8247
      @jromeo8247 2 роки тому +5

      @Celestia Quixs
      Nobody can nor will heal you as completely as yourself. Please consider taking a mineral supplement. Mineral depletion has a serious relationship for all mental health struggles.

    • @jromeo8247
      @jromeo8247 2 роки тому +11

      @Celestia Quixs
      The key is to coexist with one's mental health struggles. Not to feel they are to be avoided or overcome. Getting clear boundaries, staying sober including from toxic food and processed foods, knowing your triggers and staying in your defined values makes for an easier definition to put BPD in its place, as opposed to putting BPD in control. It is possible to not let it radically ruin one's life. It is a health care issue, just the same as diabetes or hypertension. One just has to manage it.

    • @Astrid_Grace
      @Astrid_Grace 2 роки тому +1

      @@jromeo8247 what mineral supplements would you recommend?

    • @phoenixrisin2269
      @phoenixrisin2269 2 роки тому

      There are two types of BPD on a totally different spectrum

    • @jromeo8247
      @jromeo8247 2 роки тому +1

      @@Astrid_Grace
      Buy a multimineral supplement. Do not confuse mineral supplements with a multivitamin. Many people think that taking a multivitamin is "enough". It isn't. Those who feel mentally imbalanced usually unknowingly suffer mineral deficiency. A mineral deficiency can wreak havoc on so many emotions and cause deceptions in perspectives.
      Take continually for 21 days straight and see if there is a difference. If so, continue. Add a b complex midday as well for general energy and clarity.
      Buy organic.

  • @JDMitch014
    @JDMitch014 2 роки тому +67

    Thank you. As a Dr. of Neuroscience just diagnosed with BPD myself, this was very interesting

    • @retinitispigmentosawillbec6447
      @retinitispigmentosawillbec6447 2 роки тому +5

      I hope everyday brings you closer to a full healing and recovery 🙏🌹💐

    • @sinead.
      @sinead. 2 роки тому +7

      Wow thank you for sharing

    • @elfglow4557
      @elfglow4557 2 роки тому +2

      I wish you all the best but this research is flawed. However I’m glad that people take interest and put effort into learning more about this condition.

    • @MaxWaldron
      @MaxWaldron 2 роки тому +1

      JDMitch. Hi. I study and love neuroscience, and pharmacology. It is a bit frustrating currently. I mean, I wish we knew more. I'm waiting for quantum computing to help sort things out.
      ps. Diagnosis (labeling) is a complex task, and an inexact science at the moment.

    • @lilrocky5545
      @lilrocky5545 2 роки тому +2

      Amazing 👏

  • @pandoraeeris7860
    @pandoraeeris7860 Рік тому +10

    I'm 45 and I've suffered with untreated BPD my entire life. I've been homeless twice. I've attempted suicide multiple times (I've OD's on medications half a dozen times, and I've severed veins on the inside of both my elbows twice and had surgery to reconnect them).
    I was first diagnosed over twenty years ago when I tried to join the Army, but was discharged on medical grounds (my BPD dxd).
    I'm divorced and have no connection with my son, who is 22 years old (haven't seen him since he was 7 - he's also extremely autistic, Asperger's syndrome and mild retardation).
    I haven't worked since I was 24. I live on SSI/SSDI.
    I encounter extreme stigma and biases because of my disability. Because I am poor, I cannot access adequate treatment. I can't stabilize long enough for any treatment to be effective (for example, in a couple months I'm about to become homeless again, and I'm moving to another State).
    The only thing that keeps me going is the knowledge that technology will some day fix all this.

    • @kathyfrancis9229
      @kathyfrancis9229 6 місяців тому +3

      Hi there . I am so sorry to hear about your plight. BPD is a real bastard. I will keep you in my thoughts. Wishing you peace hope and love.

  • @jeniferbass7484
    @jeniferbass7484 2 роки тому +7

    I'm diagnosed BPD for 30 years now (high functioning, schizoid type (no sexual relations, no intimate relationships currently), checkers type OCD, Bipolar, Depression with Psychotic features and clinical depression. OCD showed up in my life suddenly out of nowhere as checkers OCD, caught me by suprise, this mental hell went on for about 6 months, got therapy and meds. I challenged my symptoms and then it went away. Some mental illness are transient and temporary, one/off or intermittent. Some are long term and some are life long. My bio father has schizophrenia. My daughter, BPD. My son, ADHD. Disorders are rampant in my gene pool. I've experienced my BPD as certain symptoms showing up depending on what stage of life I'm in at the time. Self cutting/overdosing, hospitalizations, reckless indiscriminate sex with strangers, job hopping, frequent moves, substance abuse, reckless driving, gambling etc happened earlier in my youth. The gambling, job hopping, alot less frequent now. Now I'm more self isolated, trying to be more long term stable and avoid sex and intimacy, walking the straight and narrow path, in therapy and on meds lol I was a quiet BPD when I had no other choice, no outlet for my built up emotions. I repress, suppress to cope, to be able to function and be somewhat normal and stable.

    • @Ad-qk6km
      @Ad-qk6km Рік тому +2

      Same 19-26 I got into nothing but trouble random sex then ghost rage self harm drugs obsessed with my partner so bad I thought I would die without him random sexy moments the next I’m insecure and dressing ugly hiding next I’m at the bar dancing on tables it’s a roller coaster I realized it may have been me that ruined my 2 long term relationships being alone for me has been hell so I cope with drugs at night and depression meds for work it’s very hard to deal with therapy refuses to diagnose me they say it’s cptsd

  • @Megdracula
    @Megdracula 2 роки тому +46

    Very nice. Do people with BPD always feel that people don’t like them instantly ? And don’t know why? What about the feeling of always being not good enough. And of course fear of abandonment.

    • @Split_mirror_system
      @Split_mirror_system 2 роки тому +8

      hello!! I am someone with bpd, I don't speak for everyone with bpd but here are my honest answers-
      1. I dont always think people hate me instantly. Im not sure where that information came from but me personally I think a lot of people like me when they meet me. I'd say im a fairly sweet nice person and if they don't like me exactly then I can just change a little to suit what they like better. But- there are also times where I can be paranoid that therapists or peers don't like me without knowing why. That to me is kind of rare but I think everyone feels a little anxious that others won't like them, so I always thought everyone felt that.
      2. Sometimes during a low episode yeah I will feel terrible. um you'll feel like the most worthless ugly disgusting waste of life and it sucks but I think i've gotten used to it. There are unhealthy coping mechanisms each borderline will use to cope until the low episode is over.
      3. I don't think I fear abandonment but that could be me just being in denial lol! Of course I love my friends and would feel crushed without them but I also thought that was normal so I don't see it as thattt big of a deal

    • @Megdracula
      @Megdracula 2 роки тому +2

      @@Split_mirror_system I guess everyone’s different

    • @Split_mirror_system
      @Split_mirror_system 2 роки тому +1

      @@Megdracula but if it was my FP i would do ANYTHING to get them back. Id be willing to die, go through torture and hell and back.

    • @Split_mirror_system
      @Split_mirror_system 2 роки тому +3

      @@Megdracula I also have a massive ego & god complex during manic episodes and ill convince myself i dont care about ANYONE besides myself because i am a god. if it doesnt make sense to you that's because it shouldnt, right?
      -k&e

    • @Megdracula
      @Megdracula 2 роки тому +1

      @@Split_mirror_system it does make plenty of sense to me

  • @MAY-bm3lh
    @MAY-bm3lh 2 роки тому +7

    Thanks for doing these researches for us

  • @lindsaysmith2401
    @lindsaysmith2401 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent and clear presentation, very helpful. Bravo!!!!

  • @inesfonseca801
    @inesfonseca801 2 роки тому +3

    This was very interesting and informative. Thank you!

  • @valeriepena1448
    @valeriepena1448 2 роки тому +2

    wow. I was diagnosed last June and I have questioned it but the first chart with the circles, I searched up neurosis and it describes me perfectly. I have helped it a lot on my own but professional help is definitely something I crave.

  • @WatsonLori
    @WatsonLori Рік тому

    Best analysis I have heard of.

  • @margaretcampbell2681
    @margaretcampbell2681 2 роки тому +25

    I believe that psychiatrists are the only ones that can really understand BPD fully as it is a neurological disorder caused by childhood trauma

    • @Jantonov1
      @Jantonov1 2 роки тому

      Mine sure didn't. They could diagnose it but not treat it. But I'm in Canada and my experiences are from 15-20 years ago.

  • @mr.anindyabanerjee9905
    @mr.anindyabanerjee9905 2 роки тому

    Wonderful insight given into the Neuropsychology of BPD.. 🤞👍🌹

  • @AnneLien1987
    @AnneLien1987 2 роки тому +18

    This was interesting. I have BPD myself. It is very hard to live with.

  • @MaxWaldron
    @MaxWaldron 2 роки тому +2

    Always assumed the HPA was related to early development. Thanks for mentioning cumulative stress.

  • @maureenblutekraus3561
    @maureenblutekraus3561 2 роки тому +3

    I slept on the floor holding my mother's hand for 12 years because everyday of my life she told me I'M LEAVING. everyday of my life my sister beat the hell out of me until I fought back. She still has 4 long scars across her chest from my fingernails. Sitting on my chest punching me in the face and I got 1 arm free.

  • @lawrencewhitlock880
    @lawrencewhitlock880 2 роки тому +14

    Hello to you all! I have recently diagnosed myself, due to relationship patterns that I have noticed but even more so because my significant other has said things to me that reflex how I’ve acted in previous relationships. I’ve always seen myself as a strong individual capable of accomplishing anything. So as of recent I have come to learn and accept that I have some anger issues that flare up during stressful situations. I can be over sensitive I can over think and the crazy part is while these things are happening it’s like I have an outer body experience. I notice and see tha anger building. Maybe it’s just overthinking. Thanks for bringing awareness to this disorder. Peace and love be with you all.

    • @aperson3260
      @aperson3260 2 роки тому +1

      Your symptoms sound like mine… I know I get stressed; But I feel like the anger I’ve been experiencing recently( past few months) has been way outta proportion.

    • @phoenixlong3767
      @phoenixlong3767 Рік тому +3

      You can’t self diagnose personality disorders

    • @WildandFree4
      @WildandFree4 Рік тому +2

      See a professional for a diagnosis, dont self diagnose. It could be other things. Bpd is very complex

    • @Classified564
      @Classified564 11 місяців тому +1

      Sorry, you can't diagnose yourself. See a professional to see if you meet the criteria.

  • @oldgraybeard3659
    @oldgraybeard3659 2 роки тому +3

    The sensitivity is not as much visual as it is auditory. Check/Research not just the syntax, but also the tonal nuance of words that are spoken. If you look at the places in the brain that are lighting up or dulling down, they are related to the use of language and music. Notice that the active brain centers were not in the occipital lobe.

  • @TheMjj432003
    @TheMjj432003 2 роки тому +2

    Is really good that they find this information out it explains a lot for people things happen in childhood out of Childs control in which shapes that child to be ?

  • @parsonskellyg
    @parsonskellyg Рік тому +1

    So I havr BPD and this lecture was amazing and so spot on and in the right direction. I'd say that at 24 minute mark the facial recognition is so true but for me it's getting a base reading of a person then I have a ground to work from and recognize differences and change which I pay VERY CLOSE attention to. So I watch actions, habits, words said and action to get a baseline then if I see change I question why the change and can start a spiral.

  • @joegreen5634
    @joegreen5634 10 місяців тому +1

    Self help can work. It's up to you! Here's how I've been successful.
    Self awareness. Always be prepared for an emotional reaction. Recognize early warning signs. Have a plan for a new way to perceive any situation.
    Some examples: instead of getting aggravated at a slow driver, I'll picture that driver as being someone I know and admire. Then I can just smile and I have patience. My whole body feels better. (Reward)
    Instead of feeling like I can't trust a girlfriend when she's not with me, I can tell myself that she is deserving of having the freedom to be herself and it makes me feel good to imagine her happy and not worrying if im mad. The reward for this changed behavior is too many to list.
    After some time and conscious effort, I started to find the reward to be worth the effort to get creative and change. You must know that everybody gets put on this planet one time. Do I really want to be the person that takes away from another person's right to life liberty and happiness? No
    I'm 51. I'd like to think learning from repeated patterns of outcomes, becoming a wiser man, has made it easier now than it would have been when i was younger and knew everything.

  • @bardoface
    @bardoface Рік тому +1

    I love this. Finally. We need more science on this. I wish there was a way to correct this shit without all the endless therapy.

  • @WatsonLori
    @WatsonLori Рік тому +6

    I've had BPD for many years now and you are so on track however my son had BPD as well and I've always felt so much guilt that he may have gotten this from me when he was 30 years old he completed suicide thank you for your analysis and really explaining a lot of what I have had questions about

    • @kellimihalic116
      @kellimihalic116 Рік тому +2

      So so sorry. I'm devastated believing I may have passed this to my grandson. I'd rather die a thousand deaths.

    • @corey75952
      @corey75952 4 місяці тому

      I know you wrote this a year ago, but I just wanted to send you my condolences, best wishes, and let you know it’s not your fault ❤️

  • @y0g_s0th0th
    @y0g_s0th0th 2 роки тому

    I was just diagnosed with ADHD and given Adderall, but now I think I have BPD. I'll talk some more with my treatment team.

  • @karmacounselor
    @karmacounselor 2 роки тому +1

    At 38 minutes, what if the visual deficit could be helped by drawing/sketching it out because it could be shorted out in hearing not getting to the visual? But kinesthetically drawing on paper would move it to the visual field? Just wondering.

  • @DoeDeer1
    @DoeDeer1 5 місяців тому

    “Surprise memory test” triggered my rage response. 😂

  • @KatJ3st
    @KatJ3st 2 роки тому

    Well, I have the occasional seizure and it does seem to calm my brain for quite some time. But it does affect my short and long term memory for a few weeks.

  • @claudiakayla7097
    @claudiakayla7097 2 роки тому +6

    My name is kayla I am 35 years old and have BPD(borderline) mixed states ADHD aslergers and anxiety with OCD 🤗 I love myself sounds sarcastic but i am not. I take mortaziepene 45mg venlafaxaline 375mg 36mg concerta I been sober for one she hear thanx to dislufuram. Also have saved a lot of money and brought a new apple PC a new cellphone 5g and smart watch 🤗. .y moods are consistently stable I can focus and I will be starting a DBT group soon. My sister said I am deluded and dangerous. My dad has always said I have been the problem

  • @andre1987eph
    @andre1987eph Рік тому +1

    Starts at 5:40

  • @saffronscursex
    @saffronscursex 2 роки тому +7

    I am by no means a Dr. But every video I watch makes me believe I have BPD , alongside my OCD, depression , bipolar disorder , and social anxiety disorder. What else could go wrong.

    • @vmmmusik1519
      @vmmmusik1519 2 роки тому +1

      read the book - "I HATE YOU - DONT LEAVE ME"

    • @suehuber7722
      @suehuber7722 2 роки тому

      U could be married to a bad psychiatrist!

  • @user-ng2rs6fk2t
    @user-ng2rs6fk2t 7 місяців тому

    glad he said it: we have not established a causal link between BPD and childhood trauma [13:25] Studies so far based on self-reporting, notes a high correlation (80%) between BPD and Childhood trauma...so definitely need more research in this area. If it were any other illness or disease we would be looking for the cause of it. Come back to me when you have it. We should be racing to find it out.

  • @karmacounselor
    @karmacounselor 2 роки тому +24

    What if the bpd is seeing behind a poker face of the neutral actors in the experiment. Were they ever asked if by chance the bpd was accurately describing something they were thinking about while looking neutral? And then if in a family thé neutral visage is used by a narcissist what if the bpd called out the hidden thought and of course the narcissist would have to gaslight them then. Just wondering.

    • @hbwilder4586
      @hbwilder4586 2 роки тому +18

      This is what I wonder myself, while growing up I learned to pick up tiny "micro-signals" that my parents were actually secretly furious and hiding it in public - then as soon as we get in the car/arrive home/get away from other people they would EXPLODE. And I knew to brace myself, because I pick up on the signals. When I ask if someone else is upset, it's because people generally have the same small hidden signals. They ARE upset, but want to hide it, so their voice tightens and their speech becomes more deliberate and partitioned by sylables, they smile more aggressively but without the tightening around the eyes, and they make an uncomfortably long amount of eye contact while explaining they're not upset and then break eye contact completely without regaining it later in the conversation. If someone asks me what I'm feeling, I just be honest. It's pain to have your intuition constantly denied when you know what's really happening.

    • @gayo4077
      @gayo4077 2 роки тому +2

      I have bpd but I'm also a psychic medium ...I was told I was hallucinating when im fact I was seeing spirits ..I now demonstrate in a church...so now they understand my spirituality

    • @AikelTechno
      @AikelTechno 2 роки тому +1

      @@gayo4077 wild path

    • @gayo4077
      @gayo4077 2 роки тому +1

      @@AikelTechno I feel honoured ❤

    • @elfglow4557
      @elfglow4557 2 роки тому +1

      I absolutely agree with this!

  • @distortionpedal
    @distortionpedal Рік тому +1

    I had neuro feedback therapy and it has changed my life for the better...... life seems so much easier when you don't feel like a sack of shit day in and day out.. but talk therapy really helps and trying to eat well and exercise . .. you start to notice your self better and you can feel in your mind and body when your emotions starts to play up for what ever reason. .

  • @LR-yu3mx
    @LR-yu3mx 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting, my BPD - husband mentioned that I seemed angry, although I was Definitely not angry. But he read that in me.

    • @LR-yu3mx
      @LR-yu3mx 2 роки тому +1

      I actually since childhood in a toxic family, I learnt never to express how I felt... To be stoic.

  • @andreaavery555
    @andreaavery555 2 роки тому +2

    Are you doing studies? Mine is genetic, I'm 43 and struggling

  • @JennySimon206
    @JennySimon206 10 місяців тому +1

    How come some people who have had really bad stressful childhoods don't end up with BPD? Have you studied people who don't end up w a personality disorder tho suffered as a child? I'll volunteer. I've had a verifiably terrible childhood and young adulthood and beyond if we want to be honest. I've been on the receiving end of other people's mental instability however. That's why I am watching this video. So I'm wondering, what that stress did to my brain and why I'm so unshakable. I was sent to trauma based mind control programs disguised as troubled teen re-education camps disguised as religious cults disguised as boarding schools at age 12. It was crazy town. They were illegally drugging our food w Thorazine I later found out in a lawsuit. I did feel tired and weak all the time. They made us run in circles and it was horrible. I've never been the same I don't think. I think I lost some physical endurance I never got back. I think it messed my gut up. The stress wasn't good all around.
    That wasn't the half of it. It was total isolation from the outside world. No books, even textbooks. Only the Bible. I could go on and on. They beat us, had us beat each other. I never got beat. I was too young and kept my head down and didn't talk about stuff we weren't allowed to talk about. Anything 'worldly'. That means anything not the Bible. We didn't get any time to ourselves. We didn't do anything but Bible study. Nothing. No crafts. Nothing. No TV, no nothing.

    • @sinew1000
      @sinew1000 18 днів тому

      Different types of trauma cause different symptoms

  • @elfglow4557
    @elfglow4557 2 роки тому +5

    I am glad that research is being done about this topic but there are a lot of missing pieces in most of them. Neutral face recognitions are always researched inaccurately with the assumptions people with neutral faces actually show no emotions. Also BPD running in families means that parent with personality disorder could easily create an environment to traumatize their children cause them BPD. I have talked to many people with BPD. This is anecdotal story however relevant, i am in DBT group, 3 support groups for BPD and cPTSD and people also come and go. So I have heard many people with BPD share their childhoods and there has never been one where problem wasn’t a parent and often times a narcissistic or emotionally unavailable parent. So in my observation some type emotional abuse was Presents in these people 100% of the time. Obviously this is my mini observation that I take very seriously and really would love it if this was well researched. I understand genetics might with some people play a role but I doubt that it’s as relevant as the environment child has grown up with. Maybe thee are cases but as I’ve said in my own experience from talking to BPD people parental abuse was always present. I have other comments too but I feel this will be too long. But I hope you continue research and take into account things that are missing by getting more feedback and reviews.

    • @elfglow4557
      @elfglow4557 2 роки тому

      @Epiphany Party yes that makes sense. Because as I was explaining through my own observation parental abuse in some form is always present for it to be triggered. Another research I’ve read they have also connected it with a problem with serotonin. I know that I personally have a mutation on Serotonin transporter gene. So it makes sense IF it’s a case. However, the trauma and abuse I have endured is what has caused me the symptoms. My cousin with same mutation who grew up in different country with loving parents has no symptoms. So again we don’t know much but I’m glad research his being done so we can find out the truth. But it’s so important to not get rigid with the results and be aware of biases. Please don’t treat it as your research project success, that you have done and concluded something and have something to show. People who struggle and so desperately want to get better depend on these things.

    • @aracelyhernandez9522
      @aracelyhernandez9522 Рік тому

      hey id like to have a conversation with you on this subject i have bpd and i feel like your view on it is the most correct thing i’ve heard someone else say. id like to hear what else you have to say about it !

    • @bronaghtadhg
      @bronaghtadhg 8 місяців тому

      I have BPD and so does my mom, but my mom didn't created a chaotic environment for me growing up. My dad, who left when I was six, was the wounding parent for me. My mom was very validating and understanding of my emotional sensitivity. But my dad was cold and distant, and always told me, a child, that I was the reason we didn't have a relationship. On top of that, I was bullied constantly throughout elementary school and middle school due to being feminine.
      I do understand that my experience is likely not all that common. But my childhood home, aside from parental separation, was actually really stable despite having a mother with BPD. What was invalidating and unstable was school for me.
      But here's the thing: I had intense fears that my parents would abandon me even before my father ever left. Every time my parents were mad at me for something, I thought they would leave me. I used to worry that if I fell asleep in the car, my parents would leave me at someone else's house instead of bringing me home. No matter how often they would reassure me that they would never leave me (well, my mom, anyway), I would worry and worry and worry that they've leave one day and never come back. So I definitely think BPD has a strong genetic component.

  • @DMTsus
    @DMTsus 2 роки тому +7

    No face is neutral

  • @esmegoddess2747
    @esmegoddess2747 4 місяці тому

    Anyone else noticed this is exactly the same undiagnosed ADHD & ASD would present being repeatedly traumatised and exhibit complex trauma symptoms.

  • @tiasundawn1841
    @tiasundawn1841 Рік тому +2

    How is BPD distinguishable from C-PTSD?

    • @luciamixon4156
      @luciamixon4156 Рік тому

      I've heard that bpd and bipolar have similarities. If symptoms are more of a. Constant Pattern it could be BPD. If it's random fluctuating episodes more like bipolar in general. CPTSD is more like a secondary category or by itself. Just imho. See Dr Ramani videos for expert.

  • @annalisette5897
    @annalisette5897 2 роки тому +4

    Gosh...... I don't know what to make of this research. I have a friend with a terrifying BPD condition. That person is out of touch with reality, even to the point of disassociation. On the other hand I personally can identify with the feelings around inclusiveness, facial expression, etc. I am an only child who spent much of my childhood primarily with my parents. There was no extended family of cousins, etc. I was precocious in many ways but ill at ease with people my own age. I do not think I have BPD nor has anyone ever suggested such.
    I think my hypersensitivity about some things stems from lack of experience when I was very young. I grew up with the idea of being subordinate to parents and other adults while not having much experience with people of my own age. I have tended to go through life with that perspective, that the world is full of adults and I still respond emotionally more like a child. (This is not to say I have uncontrollable emotions, tantrums, etc. It is easy for me to be dominated by others.)
    Ten years ago I got internet and started interacting with all kinds of people online. Over this time I have learned more about give and take, when to be assertive and when to admit I am wrong, etc. I am able to apply these skills to real life.
    Back to my friend with BPD; her case is frightening, and at this time hopeless. I am in a position to help her with medical and housing issues but I have had to pull back because of destructive, sabotaging behaviour. Any kindness done for my friend is twisted and turned into a knife with which to stab anyone who cares.

  • @earthlingYT
    @earthlingYT 2 роки тому +4

    Btw, CPTSD is a more accurate description of my situation.

    • @vanderbam2741
      @vanderbam2741 2 роки тому

      CPTSD has nothing to do with BPD.

    • @earthlingYT
      @earthlingYT 2 роки тому

      @@vanderbam2741 well aren't you just a know-it-all

    • @WitnessingTyranny
      @WitnessingTyranny 2 роки тому +2

      @@vanderbam2741 I thought it was a common comorbidity. You might want to check out Dr. Daniel Fox here on UA-cam. He's treated it for decades.

    • @vanderbam2741
      @vanderbam2741 2 роки тому

      @@WitnessingTyranny they can be comorbid, but they are not the same *at all*. There's a dangerous trend at the moment of people with BPD trying to co-opt CPTSD as a diagnosis and argue they are the same thing. They are not! You might have both, but if you have only been diagnosed with BPD then you can't claim a completely different diagnosis.

    • @dm8068
      @dm8068 6 місяців тому

      ​@vanderbam2741 what is the difference between the two? I've heard a few ppl say how and where the difference is but I want to hear it from you

  • @betttrbeth
    @betttrbeth Місяць тому

    I’m borderline. I’m stable but I want a cure.

  • @MAY-bm3lh
    @MAY-bm3lh 2 роки тому +2

    This is scarying me

  • @hashirfazal4256
    @hashirfazal4256 Рік тому

    Prove this profffffesion

  • @judithbowles5395
    @judithbowles5395 2 роки тому +4

    Way to wordy and technical for an uneducated person like me.

  • @DickTracyFanboy
    @DickTracyFanboy 2 роки тому

    54:09

  • @brittneyhamilton8636
    @brittneyhamilton8636 2 роки тому

    What if BPD is the next step of evolution
    If people could truly wrap their heads around what's going on before we become adults and it becomes a problem!

    • @phoenixrisin2269
      @phoenixrisin2269 2 роки тому +2

      If it’s the next step in evolution welcome to hell. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @yanni246
    @yanni246 Рік тому

    Let me just say that one face on the right hand side is probably going to give me nightmares, regards, BPD person

  • @GMarieBehindTheMask
    @GMarieBehindTheMask Рік тому

    I realized I inherited this condition from my father 😵😢

  • @tmjones7081
    @tmjones7081 Рік тому

    My son is going through this. With his mother. Im the bad guy. Truly sad. Court will not hear the red flags!

  • @Astrid_Grace
    @Astrid_Grace 2 роки тому

    The ball tossing game isn’t going to provide an accurate analysis of responses to exclusion. We won’t feel a genuine exclusion from that. And I don’t think you wanna induce genuine feelings of exclusion for the sake of a study, unfortunately, I don’t think that there’s an ethical way to do that for someone with BPD. Feeling less included when playing, though, I feel is accurate.

  • @rebeccareiter7408
    @rebeccareiter7408 Рік тому

    Ain't no mom gonna want her husband to finish work in his home office after she's been attending to 3 young kids all day and then ask HIM to go out by himself in the quiet van kid free. She gonna throw the kids at him and go herself to get some quiet. -stay at home mom to 4 kids of 9 years here.

  • @albertcassler8763
    @albertcassler8763 2 роки тому

    How much of these personality disorders have anything to do with leaded gasoline?

  • @jada43226
    @jada43226 Рік тому

    I want to know the if the studies actually include race. Black people automatically have to have a sense of hyper vigilance

  • @JamesHawkeYouTube
    @JamesHawkeYouTube 2 роки тому +4

    Everything is paradigm-based and inferred. Everything is a concept and a fad. We know nothing. We are not mere biology.

  • @raniadizikiriki8935
    @raniadizikiriki8935 2 роки тому +1

    Τhe spectrum of human behaviour is infinite.In these days we have a tendency to put a psychiatric label to everything.I find this extremely narrow minded.

    • @agataborkowska3876
      @agataborkowska3876 6 місяців тому

      what a dumb take, if it's infinite, it's it natural that we can find similarities? and if we do, how do we research it without naming it? you are narrow minded

  • @Gothgalactica
    @Gothgalactica Рік тому

    Wait, what? They're going to lump those together? So now we're not only going to be "borderline, but antisocial disorder now too? NO. I am not that! Ugh! Its bad enough how ppl see us