Sony PlayStation. SCPH-1001 vs SCPH-9001
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Just a quick overview of both models. The SCPH-1001 can be found on eBay as "Rare" or and "audiophile" model. The truth is that its really not. Its just a typical launch model with a few bugs that Sony corrected in every revision after the 1001.
I was under the assumption that the 1001 was the "best" revision of the PlayStation, after receiving a free 9001 I realised I was wrong about that. They're all similar.
If your looking for a PlayStation its a safe bet to purchase any model after the 1001 since it will be a more reliable system.
The SCPH-1000 was actually the first model but was only released in Japan and had an s-video port
Turns out there is actually a discernable difference between these
the SCPH-100* models specifically had an issue with their graphics chip, where they were slow to read from memory and had issues which caused banding in rendering gradients.
Tomb Raider and Toy Story 2 are known to show the issue off most notably
It's not something that will really take away from the game, but when viewed side by side, a SCPH 500*, 550*, 700*, 900* will have far better gradient shading, while the 100* model has this banding issue where the gradient is in large distinct steps and isn't smooth at all
(The last number in the SCPH number is meaningless BTW, it's just the region which the system is locked to. 0 is Japan, 1 is America, 2 is Europe, 3 is UK, etc)
I play Shadow Man PS1 off of an SCPH-1001 model from November 1995. It does exactly the same thing you described with Tomb Raider and Toy Story 2. Like Shadow Man's lighting is not really dynamic on this unit, but mostly just lines of colours (almost Doom era-ish). Oddly though, all of the SCPH-1001 models I've played after January 1996 never gave me this gradient banding. 8 units in 20 years that I've resold, none from 1995. It was a very long time ago and the unit is long since trashed, but I also had a launch Japanese model (SCPH-1000, dated September 1994 on the bottom lids & inside) that was modded as a kid, and I remember Shadow Man and to a lesser degree Quake 2 doing the same gradient banding as my current SCPH-1001 model.
Those Japanese 1994 units today, unless sealed I assume are all literally dead from how bad the laser was & how only around a half million (my guess) were made that year. Mine died in 2003. But I do recall it having the gradient banding issue that my current November 1995 SCPH-1001 has. Likewise, I have yet to see a model made in 1995 in a decade, the only time I saw one and immedialy bought it & use it still today.
With that said, I have no other PS1 machines from those two years to further experiment. They're just too rare to find units that even boot up, let alone come across in person or on eBay.
So overall, I assume it's a problem particularly with the 1994 and 1995 batches in particular, and they improved upon it in January 1996, at the very earliest maybe (?) December 1995. Was this your experience? It might shed a light on the issue.
The SCPH-1000 has an S-video port, while the 1001 and 1002 dont, so the last number isnt completely meaningless.
@@albalog2449 It's not all SCPH-1001 that exhibit the issue, only the ones with the PU-7 mainboard that were manufactured until around early November 1995. The banding issue was fixed on the PU-8 motherboard, which started manufacturing in late November 1995 and I believe is the more common variant.
You can swap the drive assembly out from a PSOne into a SCPH 1001 and your golden. The issue with the original models were the sled material would wear and that was corrected in later revisions
Dallas Milton Good to know.
Actually... first KSM-440AAM were plastic. I'm not sure if that model switched to diecast or if it was ACM. Basically after switching to diecast all lasers were exactly the same.
There is definitely a sound difference because of the separate RCA output. Using those shitty PC speakers, you probably couldn't tell.
somehow sony lower the quality of the outjacks .. the better sound comes from the av port of the 1001 model not the output jacks
you r wrong there is sound quality difference you need to use the av port instead
dont use the audio jacks somehow sony lower the quality of the outjacks .. the better sound comes from the av port of the 1001 model not the output jacks
Thanks for this video. I was surprised to see the scale of the reduction in power consumption between the two models (17W reducing to 10W). BTW I have the SCPH-9002model, which is basically the PAL version of your SCPH-9001 and I'm pleased to say that so far it's never let me down
thanks... answered question on PAL.
The DAC used in most SCPH100x is an Ashahi Kasei Microsystems (AKM) AK4309AVM. It is a 16 bit Stereo Delta-Sigma DAC. Some very early models use the AK4309 VM. The later PS1 models of the series SCPH 55xx also feature the AK4309AVM. The SCPH700x are equipped with the AK4309BM and later models, the SCPH75xx and higher, are equipped with DACs from other manufacturers.
The dac in the 55xx was downgraded, its not the same.
@@JO-so4giyou are wrong. The DAC used in most SCPH100x is an Ashahi Kasei Microsystems (AKM) AK4309AVM. It is a 16 bit Stereo Delta-Sigma DAC. Some very early models use the AK4309 VM. The later PS1 models of the series SCPH 55xx also feature the AK4309AVM. The SCPH700x are equipped with the AK4309BM and later models, the SCPH75xx and higher, are equipped with DACs from other manufacturers.
Find me a source that proves this with pictures. Because everything i've seen says after the 1001 the soundchip was downgraded. It's been commonly talked about for literally decades on forums and ive never once seen anyone say what you're suggesting.@@c0rpse1
Of all the forums ive looked at from the past few decades they all have said the sound was downgraded after the 1001 pu-8 motherboard. The 55xx was downgraded not specifically by the chip, but by the other components on the board and the circuitry in general. @@c0rpse1
@@c0rpse1 test... my posts arent posting...
Minor disclaimer:
*Yes this video has a high frequency pitch.*
Be Warned!
Says there is no difference but doesn't prove it with a video comparison.
charvelgtrs okay so buy both and see for yourself lol
there is a difference, but you absolutely can not see it unless you are super man
Only reason to avoid the 9001 is due to the lack of the IO port for PS-IO cartridge that you will likely buy as the CD assembly is going bad even in the better designed 9001 model. These optical thingies don't last forever. For everyone else there is emulation if you just want to play the games and don't care about the original hardware.
@@NicolaiSyvertsen the 9001 has a much more reliable CD assembly and will last *much* more longer
@@UA-camCX9 No really, you cant see the difference unless you zoom in a lot.
Also, i dont believe someone with OCD would be able to see it. OCD ≠ supervision
life hack: you can replace the laser in a PS1 1001 with the KSM-440BAM laser from a PSOne so you don't have to deal with fiddling around with the bias and stuff
Shicky256 Good to know, if I have any issues in the future ill see about buying an aftermarket laser assembly.
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Hey dude, thanks for the info! does this KSM-440BAM laser works with 5501, 7501 or 9001 aswell? I've got 3 of them and I'd like to revive them
@@15incher it should
I understand the benefits from having a newer model system closer to the end of it's life. It's nothing compared to the chipset of the originals. If you know the stuff "under the hood" so to speak, then you know how to tap into the stuff that makes things higher quality than our standard now. Hence the "Audiophile" version. Maybe you can't hear the difference. But it's by far the quality you can draw from the machine. I am by now means an Audiophile, I just open up my machines enough to know how much they differ.
According to your knowledge and competence, do you believe that replacing the original pickup with a new one, for instance the one for the psone, may reduce the Audiophile experience?
@@magenta864 it's been almost a year since I wrote that so I'll do my best to remember. If you're looking for the audiophile experience on the model 1 PS1, you need to make sure it has the RCA ports on the back. Even though it's a model 1 PS1 it has several variations. As time goes by they find ways to lower price of production and a lot of the time that means getting rid of ports. A lot of systems go through this. I'm pretty sure the GameCube eventually was produced without the "digital av out" towards the end of its life cycle. You just need to look up the variations to make sure you're getting the one you want.
@@AshtonHutchinson thanks. I have the one with RCA port. What I need to know is whether replacing the laser unit might affect the audio quality
@@magenta864 No, it won't. Just make sure you're putting in a good laser. If you do suddenly have audio problems then it's almost certainly a capacitor leak.
@@AshtonHutchinson is there any marker for the quality of the laser?
i still have my scph-1001 since 1995 and still works great....
@blonde guineapig a have a SONY trinitron and PHILIPS both work just fine and i use the S-VIDEO conector.
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not at all works perfect yet
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I have for years the replacement for when I fail
@@hyakimaru5235 can you have my ps5 or ps4?
mine too perfect system
Damn wanted to watch this but theres literally a loud high pitched dog whistle type sound over the video why
I think that was the TV making that noise. It was a cheap garage sale find so it probably had an issue with the high voltage side.
Theres many articles that prove the early model is definitely better in sound quality with tests to back it up. Plus light gun games need to connect to the composite connection
Could you please provide a link for just one of these articles or guide me where I can find one?
Thanks.
Also, the newer units have slightly better graphics abilities.
I just picked up an audiophile ps1 at savers for $23
The american SCPH-1001 launch model is actually a japanese SCPH-3000
It doesnt have anything to do with the original SCPH-1000
Was It May 1999 Or July 1999 That The Second PS1 You Demonstrated Was Manufactured Because The First One Was Manufactured In November 1996
So... it is reasonably well known that the 1000 series PlayStations DO have a better DAC (Digital To Analogue Converter) in them compared to later models... however... as you rightly say it doesn't equate to the BIG difference that people say it is.
Also.. Audiophiles don't just take a stock 1000 Series PlayStation and rig it up to their High-End Audio Receiver... No... They actually modify the Audio Output circuitry of the PlayStation console in order to make it "Audiophile".
Again as you rightly say, these 1000 Series machines are NOT RARE at all.
Annoying electrical hum/ring through your vid, didnt finish cause it gave me a headache.
Just turned down the volume
@@liamliam3138 defeats the purpose
@@Jhulinare there's a point where you can't hear the ringing and you can hear his voice and that's the point where you need to go to
Lol your not kidding I just picked up a 9001 at goodwill today. Had a old av plug that works for the ps1 and a controller and cord plugged it all in turned it on bingo its working. Question some on rgb said that the newer ones 9001 possibly have slightly better visuals vs the earlier model.
No idea on that.
would the laser out of my SCPH-9001 work in my 1001? the laser in my 1001 is wonky, but the 9001 works flawlessly.
Yes but the cable in the 9001 is twice as long. So you'll have to get creative when you route it.
Just bought the 9000 today, only $16 .But there is no adaptor and the controller and box
Nice video. I was wondering what major differences are there between the original and the end.
High pitched sound is driving me crazy
Congratulations on the video. I'm a new subscriber, I'm Brazilian. I'm about to buy the latest model of the playstation, from the final revision SCPH-9001. Is it more robust? I have snes, nintendo 64, sega genesis and master system too. The new mega drive with cartridge slot and games in memory was launched here in 2017. I bought a sd card with 1700 games, new, launched by the tec toy company (authorized by sega). God bless. thanks. I await reply if possible.
Short answer, Yes. They are built better than the 1001 models & can last much longer than the 1001 as well. I'd say stick to the 9001 if you already have one.
its kinda funny here in Ireland the launch console is kinda rare as not many people bought a launch PS1 personally my introduction to the PS1 was renting it in 1995 from xtra-vision ( a video rental store) and my parents buying me one in 1996. the one I got was from the UK up north of Ireland. it was recommended by the store clerk to buy the older model because it sound better and Sony where starting to release cheaper models with less options on the back. I was the the only one at school to have a PS1 hooked up to a 5.1 surround sound and hooked up to SCART playing Gran Turismo looks amazing.
I was told that the launch console was "rare" as well. However the PS1's I see for sale more often then not they're 1001's lol. So like everything in this hobby there seems to be more lies and hype to create a false scarcity, which of course means people have an excuse to sell for higher prices. I find this to be true with Non-TMSS Model 1 Sega Genesis consoles, I've seen probably 60 of them and I've bought and sold 12 myself. They're a dime a dozen but resellers say they're "rare".
@@RobertNES816the only rare model is the 5903 Video CD edition with only 10,000 units manufacturered.
The PS1 sold like hotcakes especially at launch so there is no shortage of the early models.
This was very helpful! Thank you!
Mainly like older versions personally as I like game modding
02:05 did you hook up the optical? I noticed there's and optical input. That might be the reason why people think it has better audio.
Just saying. :)
It’s not an optical, it’s a quarter inch dc remote switch.
i have the 7000, that model is the first PS1 with the dualshock controller.
SCPH-1001
Yes, the old model SCPH - 1001 you get to use RCA cables and the benefits are getting yourself the best RCA cables hence the word Audiophile came in.
obtained an scph 1001 and 9001, both need a laser/motor assembly replacement. not willing to cut or mod cases, but if i buy the "appropriate" replacements on ebay, are there any manual adjustments to make or can i just pop'em right in and play?
Should just work. The 9001 has no adjustments and will work with the laser cover the laser assembly comes with. The 1001 will need to have it's cover swapped out like I show in my laser replacement video.
I just bought an scph 9001 yesterday!
High five! I bought a 9002. Should be in the post office tomorrow. :P Just wanted a modded system, and didn't really pay no mind to which iteration it was. However as I had a weekend to dwell on it, I became a bit concerned to whether the 9000s were somehow inferior models.
This vid put my worries to rest.
Also completely by accident found my old PS1 av-cable from childhood, which to my great surprise turned out to be an RGB-SCART! Meaning I'll be able to play games from wherever; Europe, America, Japan - and with a crystal-clear image on my crt to boot! (With a regular composite cable everything but PAL-games would've shown in black & white, even on a modded system, as I'm in Europe..)
Man I'm stoked.
@@Horzuhammer I know this is a year later, but how's your PlayStation doing!
My 9001 is from June 2000
I Have A SCPH-1001 January 1996 I think the laser is dying it sometimes speeds up the games
At maximum speed and the games sometimes freezes and it’s refurbished console and sometimes
It doesn’t even plays the games and it shows “insert PlayStation CD rom” error when I insert a game
and I got the games resurfaced and sometimes it doesn’t even work even if the games clean.
Just get a new laser assembly from Amazon. I have videos on how to replace them. They work like new afterwards.
Well I just put a one Laser unit inside without adjusting anything and jea there is a difference your scph 1001 is actually with the already 3th board of this series that came out 14wats power supply also 3th version's mark
I just bought a scph-1001 from a game store where I live for 14.99
I just got one at a garage sale for 5.
Now if you can, do a comparison with the SCPH-9001 vs SCPH-101 (PS one) please!
They're both the same system. Just the 101 is a bit more integrated.
@@RobertNES816 I see.. Well, thanks for you response..
He's right but I will tell you this, the 9000 model has the blue background with Rainbow colors while the 101 model has a gray menu "kinda like the Pal variations which I actually like better."
@@cutemimi25 Only the SCPH-5552 has the PSone style menu. All the other PAL models have the standard menu. Probably the reason why the SCPH-5552 and the PSone have the same-looking menu is that they most likely have the same BOIS whereas all the other PS1s have the BIOS which has the blue menu.
Not to mention the SCPH-5501 or older has controller Port issues I had a PlayStation 1 SCPH-5501 made in September 1997 and The controller port stopped working! So I bought a SCPH-9001 made June 1999 as a replacement and it works perfectly so my recommendation on buying ps1 is Don’t buy anything below 1998/1999 or you will have issues
Since you have 3. Can you do the noise test? I think the older ones are noisier? but i was never been able to test
Noise test?
If you're talking about the way the system sounds when it's in operation they all sound the same. The older models sound noisy if the CD ROM drive is worn out. Which in most cases is the reason why they don't work. The spindle motors wear out and cause a knocking sound as the motors output shaft wobbles inside the worn out bushings.
@@RobertNES816 I have noticed that the lasers can sound a bit differently depending on the ps1 model. It is the sled/pickup motor that is different. Some are noisier (faster?) than others. But I don't know which one is the quiestest.
@@stefang8213 to my ears the quietest consoles are the ones with the least amount of hours on them. The older models typically have worn out spindle motors which make a knocking sound and when the sleds wear out the gear noises get louder. The 1001's that I replaced the drives in all sound perfect even to this day.
@@RobertNES816 You're absolutely right about that.
Are there any later PSx that have quality audio chipset or Dig audio output?
Can the SCPH-1001 be modified by installing a heat shield since the lens is so close to the power supply?
It probably could be if you got creative.
Remove the power supply - remote PS is what you would do for a laptop. ;-)
@@RobertNES816 Remove the power supply
Which console is better?
TheGari 8bit They're both good. But the likelyhood of you finding a 1001 that actually works reliably for more then 30 minutes is slim these days. Unless you buy a new laser assembly. So if you just want a PS1 that works go for a 5001,7001,7501 or 9001.
3 years later and I don’t know if u mean 5001 as 5501
they are worth $80 now
Hello I have an problem i found a ps1 in my house and one game I put the game and turn on ps1 and it shows memory card or cd player what I need to click to play I game
Thank you and sorry for my english
It should play automatically. If you have an early 1001 model its most likely a bad laser.
Search amazon and eBay for a replacement. They're easy to come by.
A annoying version next to an even worse one.
"No difference in sound quality" tell that to audiophile communities they themselves even said 1000 model sounded good but not 3,000 bucks system beater good.
Having RCA jacks is a big plus compared to just a AV Multi,one reason why Neo Geo CD sound so punchy with their arranged music in their games because it have RCA jacks.
9000 supposed to be the best fat model but it was cut out too much goodies ports and the build quality took a hit even my 5500 model felt tighter built.
I still have both 5500 and 9000 around but the just didn't have that "It's a Sony" build quality.
They're nothing special lol. My Sony Blue Ray player sounds better, the scpch 1001 sounds about the same as a good portable cd player using line out. Its really nothing special.
Also having RCA Jacks means nothing, it's just a connection point for audio, the multi out is basically the same thing for audio. The 5001 and 7001 are said to have similar audio profiles, when I had my 5001 it sounded identical. Same with my 7001. The 1001 is over hyped like allot of things in this hobby. Allot of "audiophile" types tend to over think these types of things anyways.
As for build quality the 7501 and 9000 took the biggest hit. The plastic quality didn't degrade or anything but the parts count and the elimination of the serial out in the back ruined any chance of cheating or otherwise manipulating the software or hardware.
It's not the RCA jacks that made the original PS1 a better quality CD player, but it was in fact the DAC that was used (Digital to Analog Converter). In the earliest PS1 models a higher quality DAC was used, but replaced by a cheaper, lesser quality (though still decent) DAC in later revisions of the console.
A Google search will detail the different DACs - I don't remember the details here, but yeah, there was a real reason for the 'audiophile' tag on the original PS1..... And playback through a TV speaker is NOT going to show any difference! I needs to be connected to a decent HiFi amp and speakers to reveal it's quality ;-)
you need to use the av port instead
dont use the RCA audio jacks somehow sony lower the quality of the outjacks .. the better sound comes from the av port of the 1001 model
after replacing the lens the screen ask for ps1 format disc ?!! how can i get that disc or download it ???
You have the same speakers I have!
Got rid of those speakers a while ago. Replaced with a Polk Signa S1 soundbar and sub. WAY better audio!
I still have mine original PlayStation 1 made in Japan U3093622 / 3-059-460-21 November 1999 model no SCPH - 9001 I think it can play video cd
this is what i keep trying to tell someone
i am perfectly happy with my 9001, it does all the same stuff and the parallel port is just for cheaters
he keeps bashing my playstation into the ground saying it is the worst one and i should atleast get a 5501
I have a 9001 and it works fine, the disc drive is actually much better than the older models
For a casual player the SCPH-9001 is perfectly fine, and it even has better graphics than the 1001, 5501, and 7001. In the case of the 9001 it's noticeably sharper because IICR they added an extra mb of VRAM. Ambitious games like Shadow Man and Quake 2 look and play really good on it, and I noticed it makes less motor noise (Shadow Man loads a lot when playing). The PSone and the 7501 (with the 5, *_not_* the 7001) also have the same sharper graphics as the 9001. So in this case, the 7501 has the GameShark slot, but the best motor and graphics as the 9001 and PSone.
In the case of the 1001, 5501 and 7001 I actually consider them the inferior units. The 1001's motor aged like sour milk, their plastic prone to gray, and the ones from 1994 and 1995 have worse dynamic lighting and have gradient banding. Not to mention FMV skipping. The 5501's and 7001's motors are slightly better, but they still have the FMV skipping issues (maybe not as much as the 1001 but still) and not sharp graphics.
imagine trying to be snobby over a 34+ year old piece of plastic
So I left Resident Evil 2 playing on my PlayStation for like an hour and the console froze? I tried it with another used PlayStation from Ebay and it froze around 90 minutes. Is this a normal thing that happens? is the lens the issue? How do I eliminate this problem?
Probably the disk needs to be resurfaced if it happens on two consoles.
I like those Sony PlayStation systems
I dug out my old SCPH-1001 that was my childhood ps1. CD drive is trashed, planning to put a x station in it.
Can anyone recommend some where I can go to repair and clean an original Playstation? I am looking to modify it to use the PS1 digital.
What do you mean "PS1 Digital"?
i have both the first and the last model
Not related to the video, but what's the device pictured in your avatar? Is it a processor?
Wrench Turner its an image sensor from my old HTC Aria.
the only diference each other are.... well you can connect a basic RCA jack... but in other models PS AV is so cheap so it lost sense that utility. Pieces are not rarely to found and 1000 models are friendly to modding and ODE's, meanwhile 9000 the only mod you can do its modchip. So, PS1 all models are cheap so you can try anyone you want
Scph 1001 Bad Scph 9001 Good
9001 has the 2nd most reliable laser, #1 is the ps one laser
The 9001 and PS One use the same sensor.
@@RobertNES816 that explains it, i have those 2 and they work perfectly except the slim has some dead fuses because it keeps telling me to insert a ps1 format disc
@@califaern3sto never had one ask for a format disk. You sure it doesn't have a mod chip installed? I've had PS consoles act funny when the mod chip fails.
@@RobertNES816 no it's a fairly common issue on those slim psone's. Mine is bone stock.
@@califaern3sto interesting.
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I just received in the mail a scph-9002 is it the last of the big ps1?
SaucyBegger25 Yours is probably from a different region. The 9001 was the last US revision before the smaller PS One was released.
Robert NES816 I also have a scph-9002 and I live in the PAL region so maybe it's a PAL thing?
Yes, it's the last model in the fat PS1 line.
Jordan Davies Yes it is. The last number in the code represents region. I know 1 (as in 1001 or 9001) represents US, and 2 represents a different region.
@@briannanimal2174 More precisely, 0 is for Japanese consoles (NTSC-J) , 1 is for North American consoles (NTSC-U) and 2 is for PAL territories.
I have scph-1002
Simply buy a new laser lol
ロボット失恋 Funny you say that because I litteraly installed a new laser into one of my 1001's lol. I'm going to install new lasers into my other two systems soon.
Nice. I just ordered a 1001 in assuming I'll need a new laser. Do you have a link and model that you got?
ロボット失恋 just search on eBay. They're all the same so long as they have a gray top. Keep in mind you'll have to swap out the top cover from your old laser onto the new one in order for the laser to fit properly.
Can you do a tutorial video on this?
I have one made in Mexico 1998. I can mod it and game shark.
I just paid $100 from eBay used
Ouch 🤕😳
I know PS1 .w.;
Japan 1001 and USA 9001
I have 9002
Turn the fucking crt off
SCPH 7002 KAUN SA LENS LAGEGA
Wheres SCPH 5552
That wasn't featured in the video also if he had it it would've been 5501 since they're US versions.
Lol my Sega CD sounds better.
Sega CD model 1 sounds so damn good. The Bass is so good!
@@natetechr true. Wish I had one. Found my cd model 2 for 100 still works. Got lucky. Lmao sounds great out of my Sony speakers...
@@biscuitsngravy3566 A friend left me the Sega CD model 1. No lie I was going to trash it. I had it sit in a closet for about 3 years. One day I decided to plug it in to check if it worked before throwing it away. I didn't have any games so I used a Pink Floyd CD ( Dark Side of the moon) to test it. And My mind was BLOWN! I did some research and realized I was about to throw away a $400 console that is slowly disappearing. So now I take real good care of it.
@@natetechr wow you got lucky....
I have a Sega Dreamcast. Will that do the same thing?
Even though this is an old ass post there is a significant difference in the audio quality but using that piece of shit TV you will not notice.
My 1001 is perfectly working and mint condition is that hard to come by
1001 are a dime a dozen. I have 3 myself.