Long time fan of his, but be warned that on his channel its a coinflip btwn these very insightful and productive conversations, vs aneurism inducing debates against people with mental illness. Goodluck LOL
Yea most of the stuff you hear about him is from his wild conversations with crazy internet people, but his conversations with level-headed humans are usually really interesting.
Destiny fan here. Saw you on tiktok, and subbed here now. I'm glad there are people like y'all who are giving the balanced take between some of the cringe red pill messaging and progressive messaging which at times seems disconnected from reality. I'm glad I met my wife 12 years ago, before the dating scene has dramatically shifted to where it is now. Today, I'm not sure if we would've found each other.
Right because she would never date you now. She’d be one of the many woman sharing a Chad and deluding themselves into thinking he will ultimately choose her. When this happens, you wouldn’t describe it as “cringe” anymore. Rather, you’d describe it as realistic.
One of the most important points you have to consider when thinking about going into women dominated hobbies to try to find a woman to date is that you HAVE to try to enjoy or take the hobby seriously! If you just go into a space and completely ignore the activity you are by your actions telling the people there that you think their hobby is dumb. My recommendation of a woman dominated space that generally loves when a guy shows up is dance class, especially older styles. Even if you are not super attractive it's built into dancing that you pair up. I've seen 250+ lbs obese men find someone to date in class. But! You have to engage with the class not only go to touch women. Also personal hygiene is very important when you go dancing (it's okay if you are sweaty after the class ends).
How do you feel about whether women should appreciate male hobbies: is it the same? Is it necessary? If not, why? Curious. From my experience, it seems when women enter male-dominated hobbies, men then mock them and treat them badly. It's at least this way online with games.
@@elmhurstenglish5938 Men mock each other all the time. With gaming it's a bit different (there are a lot of incels) but in the real world, with male-dominated hobbies such as shooting, BMX riding etc, yeah a woman would be shat apon but not any more then every other guy would.
@@elmhurstenglish5938 When it comes to games, yeah I'm not surprised to find sexist incels mocking women sadly. You're behind a screen and you can't get kicked in the balls for what you say like you would IRL. But otherwise, I've joined parkour and Aikido and I actually don't find bantering outside of people who already know each other well, both men and women. Cuz y'know, you don't just call a stranger a bitch or pig for barely any reason. Gender is irrelevant there I'm pretty sure lol. Women do join those hobbies and I haven't seen frequent sexist mocking and stuff from guys, at least here in Jakarta Indonesia. People are there for the hobby and most of all, the people aren't antisocial incels lol. Some may be pretty sexist but it's out of the usual conservativeness here, not an off-the-charts crazy sexist like rage gamers. Or in the case that there _is_ that kinda environment outside of internet/gaming, well I'd just avoid it then. Surely there's other clubs/classes of the same hobby to join where the guys know how to be decent humans.
Destiny fan here, I thoroughly enjoyed listening to this podcast. You guys have honestly been a pleasant surprise. Definitely one of the most wholesome collabs Steven has done these past few months. I wish more of the people he tends to talk to on stream were more like you guys. This was such a great example of how you can have good conversation without constantly screaming past each other or resorting to ad homs and pejoratives.
Please please please organize your videos into playlists. It makes channels infinitely easier to navigate and a lot of viewers will appreciate it. Starting playlist when you've only uploaded 18 videos will be so much easier and then you just sort them accordingly as you go.
I'm a bit older. In my 40s. Recently got out of a relationship that I'd been in since my 20s. Took a good look at what the dating scene was like, and I'm now thinking of becoming a monk instead.
Monkmaxxing is unironically pretty good for below average guys. This is something I think blackpillers miss, they need to focus on finding happiness and drive to move on outside dating
@@danielsurvivor1372 and the funny part is I don't even consider myself a below average guy. I just don't want to wade into the cesspool. I've got everything going for me except for a good career, which is like having a car with all the options but no engine.
I agree with that one point Todd said about picking a same gender therapist. I always found it easier to open up to a male therapist vs a female therapist.
Honestly I don’t think I’d want to talk to a woman therapist, not that they aren’t fully capable. I just don’t think we’d be able to connect/they’d be able to understand me. In the same way my wife didn’t want a male birth trauma therapist. There’s just no way they could have understood her experience
It was because you were in Nebraska Steven, I am from Southern California and when I was in elementary school we had a pin system not a paper lunch ticket, I also graduated highschool in 2007.
As someone from the RP/manosphere side this was a good conversation. No effective prescriptions as usual but acknowledges the new challenging landscape and a lot of clear realities
@monstercameron better places to approach women was a great prescription. Take better pictures...while it sounds dumb he's absolutely fucking right. Increasing your social skill by just getting used to complementing strangers in a way that's likely to be received well. The fact that low body count women absolutely fucking care if a guy has had 500 women, so maybe DONT do that. These were all good prescriptions. Maybe you just think a prescription needs 12 specific steps? Idk.
@@LipSyncLover i just don't think those are effective prescriptions because they are the obvious ones, even the incels know all these. Looks maxing, gym maxing, social circle maxing, pua strats etc all documented obvious things yet men arent getting the results they want
@monstercameron if they were obvious then idk why dating apps are still full of God awful pictures on the male side. And there's a lot of men that treat speaking to a woman like speaking to aliens 🤷♀️ tell me if I'm wrong. I think incels often are in a sort of catch up mode because for whatever the reason, they missed a milestone or two in adolescence. And these missed milestones COMPOUND on each other. So if you're socially awkward or inept in your mid 20s and you're starting from scratch...it might take YEARS to get this up to a level of competency and results. I sometimes suspect that yes these are obvious but normies give it to incels not realizing how much time investment it's going to take on the incels part. And the incel doesn't realize it either. And they give up after a year or so of trying. The rest of the time, after talking to some, sounds like they've found themselves in a lonely rut...working long hours with not enough time to socialize and do these things. For them I really sympathize. I work from home. I'm already married and have a decent social group. If I didn't though holy fuck would I be lonely and at a loss.
Referencing discussion around 28:00, maybe guys don't want to expose weakness in our lives. If our relationship shows a weakness, someone could take it as a cue as where and how to approach your lady. And on the note of opening up to people about the difficulties in your relationship, its 100% true that you can poison the well if you leak your misgivings about your significant other to your friends and family. Your perspective might be skewed if you are no communicating well with you S.O., but to your family you might appear to be the victim, tainting that relationship.
You’re so right. I had a boyfriend and my cousin knew all of our problems and arguments. Eventually, she convinced me to break up with him and I ended up regretting it. I feel like when you’re in a relationship, the outsider perspectives is important because when you are in love with someone you can be blinded to red flags. What do you think about this?
I made that mistake with my first love. It was a pretty toxic relationship anyway. But now I have like two confidantes ill go to about my husband. Partly because...they actually LIKE my husband because one has met him and I've made sure not to just share negatives but the wonderful things he does. So when we have a real problem I feel like they're not just immediately going to tell me to leave. They're rooting for us to succeed as a couple and aren't afraid to say if I was the asshole. That's what healthy confiding should be
24:58 The false premise in this question is: "...that personally make them unhappy..." Everyone has a moral obligation to _themselves_ to lead satisfying and fulfilling lives. And IMO, the best way to do that is through the traditional family unit with a life long partner and raising kids and seeing them grow into their own success and their own families. And not only is the perpetuation of humanity the by-product of it, the _desire_ for its perpetuation is as well.
But it is "in your opinion". What if a large portion of people decide that traditional family unit is not something that leads them to satisfying and fulfilling lives?
@@sovijus Really? I can tell you right now, not having kids is not just a deathbed regret, it's a regret a person feels _throughout_ their later years before they die.
@@sovijus There is no better route to having a satisfying and fulfilling life _throughout_ one's lifespan than lifelong monogamous marriage with a spouse whom you live out the rest of your life with, and raising one's own offspring.
Me exgf did computer science research, specifically for chatbots and similar things regarding human to AI communication. Her training was in linguistics with a masters in CS. It was creepy. She's definitely unwittingly building Skynet or Cube or something along those lines.
Came here from Destiny's channel. If dating is your guys thing, I'd like to rather selfishly ask to see if you or a sensible special guest have opinions on disability and dating, knowing there's others like me. I'll give some context to explain my situation. Hopefully it'll at least encourage others. Wall of text incoming: To give an inaccurate summary of myself, I'm essentially quadriplegic with full time 24 hour care requirements. I'm 27, male, straight, unemployed, a recent Masters graduate in Biotech and currently live alone in my own apartment with the support provided by my government's welfare systems. I'm well put together mentally but have never had anything remotely close to having sexual interest from others (that I know of... if you're good enough company then disability often puts you into this weird "pet/little sibling" zone in others minds without them knowing). At first glance I'm an incel's wet (dry?) dream, yet I inherently prove them wrong by existing as well as I do. I also observe and learn vicariously well which has always led to the outcome of "I shouldn't ask this person I really like about that, we're not close enough". I often question that last part but always end up supporting my decisions. Due to my inexperience and comparitively severe disability I don't really know where to start with dating. I know I'm not particularly desirable at a glance as it's difficult enough to make friends when most activities and jobs are difficult/impossible. I've heard horror stories about disability fetishists, happy endings from others and everything in-between. I don't really even know what I want outside of a mentally mature woman I find attractive and fun that wants me. I'm also not interested in sex for the sake of it, at least not currently. Anyway, that's it. Do with that as you will.
@@theemilyandtoddpodcast Thanks! I only use myself because I know myself. I guarantee it's a wide enough issue you could find people with similar experiences pretty quickly. Society has a tendency to glob disabled people into an othering monolithic entity as is shown by "specialist" dating services I've seen. Plus you need to be aware that it's even happening to you to know that it's happening... which is difficult for many in it. It's like if racism was... kind? You're not oppressed, just forgotten. It's tricky to explain without seeing it for yourself.
@@Crispman_777 i am your age and perfectly healthy guy and i find dating incredibly difficult already in my eyes you're damn hero if i was in your shoes i'd consider myself socially dead and wouldn't even bother trying. best of luck mate :)
@@Nanohamage Eh, you're given the hand you're dealt. I don't think that trying makes you a hero, but it's not like I'm advocating for taking life lying down. If anything just do it to spite the universe itself.
In conclusion we are all fucked. I’m 23 years old and live in San Francisco, I don’t know anywhere else besides a bar and online dating where you can meet somebody new
Bro fr I'm 26 and it's crazy where do you meet people (in a dating sense) once you fucking leave college. Like I know people mention stuff like gyms and what not but I know while I'm working out I don't want to be bothered and I assume most girls would be similar. The only thing that makes sense would be like joining some kind of social club or group activity where you could naturally just meet people but I know in my experience most of my hobbies tend to be male dominated . Like I think even making friends as an adult can be hard, like I have heaps of acquaintances or people I'm friendly with but like making actually proper friends. I could just be terrible at being social, but I generally don't feel that way I actually like talking to people and don't feel super shy or afraid of talking or anything,
@@Hazamatoxin making friends is easier than dating because gender doesn't matter all you need is to have some repeated social activity like idk what interest you pick any hobby for me it's going twice a week to a chess club where i meet same people over and over then it spills into private life aswell we go for a drink ect. As for dating may god help you when i figure it out i'll share xD
So I disagree with the stereotype of men that is being presented here , men in their 30s can't cook or clean or wash themselves. This is the peril of believing too much anecdotal evidences and getting sucked into Feminist circles. In my life experience I have found men can cook way better than many women , in fact these days women are more likely to confess they can not cook. I have lived with women roommates who are TERRIBLE in hygiene , can not cook , cant clean their own stuff , leaves the washroom dirty. All sorts of things. And then when they are confronted they often try to make excuses or flat out lies. Women are very good at appearing clean .. So these things needs to be taken with a dollop of salt. I myself cook and my women friends invite me to their homes to cook them some special dish. So c'mon , days are changing. I feel like women make a lot of excuses to not look at their own choices of men. If you are going for a guy who is generally an douche who can save you ?
yea it's not all up to the guy we are all human and girls are not perfect the endless catering to oh what do the girls want.. the best advice I can give you is don't give two craps what someone else wants from you. You do you take care of your appearance, take care of your health, and be doing the things that make you happy and engaged and a relationship will come and find you. then treat that person with dignity and respect and your well ahead of the game
When i approached men to date they rejected me all the time. To be fair i wasn’t asking just to have random sex and men actually are pretty selective with who they date. The men who rejected me were smart cuz it turns out im a lesbian 😂
Idk how effective this would be, but here's an out of the box strategy: go to spaces filled with old(er) women, and be really nice and make friends with them then mention you're single and looking so they'll set you up with their daughters or nieces or something Edit: try to find an old(er) lady who knows a lot of people, like an overly friendly church lady
Honestly? It can work. Some older women was trying to set my then-fiance up with her daughter. Before realizing he was spoken for. But the tricky aspect there is....we're not in a society where our parents marry us off. They might set up a meeting but there's no guarantee the daughter is interested....or even appreciates their mom or aunt trying to set her up. For all you know she's a closeted lesbian and her parent notices she never has any boyfriends lol
@Debra Chambers ooh good point. My mom is so completely tone deaf on what kind of man I needed. If it were up to her she would've picked me a conservative Christian virgin that lets me have a job 😆 not the politically independent, atheist cynic with good work ethic and generally egalitarian relationship style ...that I ended up falling in love with and marrying. I wouldn't let my mom pick my men in a million years. She thinks oral sex is deviant.
23:55 yes! Im onboard with Destiny here. Technological progress means we are destined for the stars. Do we necessarily need more people if the AI will eventually take over and are superior beings. Though you might argue this is a form of eugenics. It's a hard question many aren't ready to deal with
That thing about reading books is not for real men was literally said to Sam in Game of Thrones. And it's evident it's supposed to be a form of toxic machismo
One thing that I think concisely would help a lot guys starting at a very low point in regards to dating is this: try to not be gross. Clean yourself up, groom, don't smell bad, shower, cut your fuckin nails, exercise, watch *how* you speak to other people.
You honestly have not met a single lonely men if that’s your advice and that’s a happy situation. There is a big and growing amount of men who are like this, it’s not just the few greasy neck beard guys. They are in tons of different situations, on average they probably have the average style and grooming skills of the average man. The average man doesn’t know about hair are or skincare and they never messed to. Shower? Wtf? Having a decent haircut and clothes does nothing for you with getting your butt in front of women and for talking to them correctly. Dating advice usually focuses on getting your butt in front of women and talking to them correctly. Wow thank you shower
@@minabotieso6944 I appreciate your reply so I'll go point by point based on what you said: Your comment "You honestly have not met a single lonely men if that’s your advice and that’s a happy situation. There is a big and growing amount of men who are like this, it’s not just the few greasy neck beard guys." My reply - So, I said what I said assuming that these "guys starting at a very low point" are still talking with people IRL on a semi-regular basis from hanging out with friends, work, or hobbies. I acknowledge that many guys are fucking lonely as it is and have a hard time talking with people, but that was something I was assuming. Apologies, I should have made that more explicit in my comment. - I mentioned these seven simple things to do because I've met enough guys who don't do these things and yet have the expectation that getting girls shouldn't be this hard, let alone getting with the ones you are most interested in. Your comment "They are in tons of different situations, on average they probably have the average style and grooming skills of the average man. The average man doesn’t know about hair are or skincare and they never messed to. Shower? Wtf?" My reply - I'm not quite sure what you are saying. Are you saying that average men already do these things that I mention? Sure, I can imagine most average men do have good grooming habits but again, I mentioned guys starting at a *very* low point. I wasn't talking about average guys. Your comment "Having a decent haircut and clothes does nothing for you with getting your butt in front of women and for talking to them correctly. Dating advice usually focuses on getting your butt in front of women and talking to them correctly. Wow thank you shower" My reply - Yes, I agree, having a decent haircut and clothes does nothing for getting you in front of women. Again, this is something I should have made more explicit, I assumed the guys I was talking about were already getting a semi-regular amount of social interaction from friends, work, or hobbies. However, I did mention "watch how you talk to other people". What I mean here is this: learn how to be personable and learn how to say things in a non-abrasive way (have finesse) so that people are left thinking "wow, I actually like talking with this guy". - You are correct, focusing on getting your butt in front of women matters A LOT for guys. But if you're not appealing to look at or be around, then you won't have as good results as you could when you're put in front of women. So, work on both.
@@sneakers_guy5488 it will surprise you if your social life is going great but the stats on friendless-ness and loneliness are sadly really high now and growing for more people than just men. In today’s society you don’t even have to be at your lowest point to have very few friends. It’s not uncommon. I think it’s pretty reasonable to say that the people who take care of their appearance the least, at their lowest point, are the worst with making friends and dating. No reason to look presentable if there is no one to do it for. I think if someone has a really great social life then no matter if their appearance is perfect or not, they are better off than most with friendships and datinf
Honestly, I agree with Destiny when he said men are making horrible mistakes. There are so many different ways to approach a woman and impress her but sadly sex has taken over dating. It seems like a woman is a prize for a man and all they seem to want is sex. Might just be my experience however all my female friends have experienced the same problem within dating.
While I agree, women nowadays are not doing themselves any favors. They market themselves as sexual objects via their social media, their clothes, and by having superficial personalities and then are surprised when guys just want them for sex
Because some men get sex handed to them on a platter while others do not. It’s a reasonable assumption to think that the men who don’t get it outright are being settled for their stability and money, not that they’re sexually attractive.
While I can understand why someone can have this perspective as a women because my female friends show me the fucking goofy/ fucked up shit guys do, however there are a lot of pretty normal non-horny obsessed dudes who are trying and failing out there. Don't get me wrong men need to get their shit up but I do think society is becoming way more isolated and dating is becoming way more fucky going beyond the "men are only treating women like sex objects'
@@theghostofumarskoolishere.4632 If that's your opinion then I have nothing to say except you're delusional and have an extremely cynical view of men and nothing I have to say is gonna change your mind, so have a good day.
Idk man I’m not that worried about this idea of everyone staying in and chatting with AI’s. The idea that EVERY person would be down to just give up sex is ludicrous to me. Plus I’d imagine that even if it happened to a significant number of people there would still be a group of ambitious people who, no matter how good the AI is for your mental health, STILL feel A LITTLE weird that it’s not a real person, and would still try to get out
Do guys understand the concept of going to a concert that they like? Let's say you like Childish Gambino, and you go to his concert. You can make new friends and meet new people there. There's already a major ice breaker already done for you. At the very least, the one common thing you guys can have is you like the same artist.
Then probably get out of whatever RL environment/online community you're on where the women don't require you to have a high body count. It still puzzles me how there could be so much of that kinda women that you would say they're the majority. Could be from me being in a pretty conservative country. The women I know are either indifferent, scared or disgusted of what's essentially fuckboys. It's ok if the guy just has been with a couple previous girlfriends, but multiple casual sex? Different story
The female population in conventions has increased a lot since 2017. I met a lot of my sexual partners and girlfriends at conventions and most of them were cosplayers like me. The shared hobby open a bridge to conversation and you will see where the day goes
Personally I've given up on finding love or even date. There exist more than enough sedation out there, so it's not like I have depression, quite the contrary - I can't wait to go home while at work. The idea of approaching anyone anymore feels ridiculous to me now. Not going to ever put myself into that situation anymore and. Less friction all the way baby. 2 houses, 6'1 feet, 6 figure wage. Staying at home living his best life not even trying lol. I mean just rub one out and all the dumb drive to ridicule yourself to meet a woman is gone. Not caring is freedom.
are there any youtube channels that talk about dating advice for women. idk what im doing wrong that i can't get dates on dating apps. i don't like drinking so going to bars isn't appealing to me. I try going out to social events but I'm pretty introverted so it's hard for me to be as talkative as a normal person.
You can tell the woman was super uncomfortable when Steven started talking about the Post human futurism stuff. This is a very uncomfortable conversation for most "normies".
personally, not a fan. did just two speed dates so far, and chatted actually more with the barista (who was a dude btw. no, i am not gay) and had more fun than with any of the female participants. I had more interesting conversations with my wall than some of these broads. usually, what you will discover at speed dates are the "left overs" that do not get anything. also, most (not all, there wer some decent dudes there as well) dudes there are also weird. would consider myself also weird and a nerd, i am an introvert, shy, but even I have some basic social norms down. these guys behaved like meeting people outside of their family for the first time in their lives. so, I guess what i am saying is it can be pretty hit and miss, i would not count to it, if you got nothing better to do, ehhh, why not try it. but would agree with RisingChaos, it is sort of like proto-online dating as in you only have a very short time and go mostly on looks. setting up a longer date one on one instead of having 10 mins per person seems way better to me.
@@Luemm3l I'm just saying out of all the options its the easiest where there is no in your face rejection, you know they there looking for relationship and id imagine your odds go up a tiny bit with face to face interaction than on tinder.
Regarding a relationship with an AI: I think that, as soon as you know it's an Ai, it's a massive turn-off. At that point, it's a machine that is designed to trick you or make you feel special or whatever. At the end of the day, what people are looking for isn't a facsimile that approximates another person that cares about them, they want a real person to care about them. In a world where Ai is that ubiquitous and we know it's capable of imitating people, I think the smart person will just assume that any online conversation is with an Ai and just tune out of that space entirely. Dumb people may be tricked, just like how some people think they are talking to the girl on OnlyFans now, despite how stupid that is.
So long as AI sentient and gets appropriate body, most men wouldn't care. Men are tired of being treated like trash, so eventually science will invent a way out
first of all most people aren't rly smart they get tricked by simple bitcoin bots let alone sophisticated A.I and A.I is selfless unlike real people so if anybody is going to care about you it's going to be A.I
Worse before it gets better? I think if you focus on your path of least resistance argument, it's highly likely with advancements in AI....AND robotics, men will eventually choose AI-based robotic females for sexual and psychological relations. It'll simply be the easiest option. See Japan for phenomena already occurring to some degree. Ultimately, you say people will speak to AI when it's good enough...and unfortunately, men WILL have sex with robots when it's good enough.
1:05:00 I'm a woman and a huge gamer but I'm kind of wary of dating guys that have gaming as a number one and only hobby. The internet is saturated with stories about male gamers who spend every moment of "free" time (read: chore time) in front of their pcs while their partners get more and more frustrated. I have different hobbies and I rarely game more than for a few hours every few days simply because there is other stuff to do. Having gaming as your only hobby is like watching youtube/tiktok/netflix as your only hobby: it's just kind of boring.
@@anderson-gb8rp everyone who isn't spending all the time gaming is now a Chad? 90% of the male population can then opt for a name change. If you want to spend every moment of your time gaming, why even want a relationship in the first place? Keep being salty.
@@anderson-gb8rp how the hell did you get that from my comment which was only about gaming as a hobby? Wait, I know: it started and ended with "I'm a woman". By your logic, if you were a woman, you'd be a stacy.
@user-qp1mg8ox6l cry me a river and kindly shut up. This whining victim complex attitude you're giving me is getting old really fast. Dating sucks for men but quit crying and ranting to me about it since nothing in my comments is arguing against that statement. Should I hold you accountable for what the generalised stereotype of men is doing, like trying to trick and push women into having sex? Don't be so pathetic to attack everyone who says "I'm a woman". You sound like you have some serious issues.
I kinda agree, I'm a dude I love gaming as well but I do other shit, sports, gym, mountain biking on top of chores etc..... and yeah while maybe for like a specific game I am hyped for I may block out a specific block of time to binge play a specific game game ( I love story based games and JRPG's).....but at this point in my life I absolutely can't just game all day everyday. I have to keep my fucking house and room clean, which means regular cleaning,vaccuming, washing and that all takes more time than you think on top of obvious stuff like my job and gym stuff. I know I couldn't be with a girl who just gamed as their one and only hobby. Also dude IDK why this dude started raging for no reason, you mentioned some thign valid and Anderson here screaming about "Chad" and a carousel.....the fuck????
5 in 1 refers to a shampoo + conditioner + body wash + face wash + something else bottle What's bad about it is that they tend to be very cheap, do the 5 things poorly, and often are poorly formulated hence they can mess up your hair and skin.
42:34 So, the Sibyl System in Psycho Pass? 49:28 Ahahaha 50:00 True, but if our species dies out because of that supreme pleasure and leisure. That's unironically a worthy death.
Ugh I can't stand when there's a woman apart of these conversations who is basically a bimbo the whole time. Just agreeing with everything the men say. 🙄 She literally added nothing to the conversation.
How is he the new Wheat Waffles? Destiny is barely redbilled, let alone blackpilled. He's ignorant and downplays how bad dating is for men all the time.
You guys need to get inhabit of posting the information correctly into the description of the video. You need to link part 1 if there is a part 1 in this series.
3:00 this is a lie, cuz ive never seen a bigger hell hole than when i helped my brothers college gf move out of her all girl house 1:06:05 also you need to have a lot of money, cuz otherwise you should be making (them) money instead of gaming
@@fotgreckless didn't know who she was, then googled her. Seems to still look feminine to me, I think people mistake feminine to mean only normie and innocent looking. For example Freyr in the god of war Ragnarok game she looks very feminine but has tattoo sleeves and Sif too
24:14 This is a deceptive way to frame marriage. The real question is, "Do you want to retire at 20. You can be a house husband, play legos with the kids, and push a vacuum cleaner around for an hour a day for the rest of your life. You'll never have to go into the office ever again."
Your is way more deceptive lol. Being a sah mom or dad isn't retiring. It's like a job. You gotta clean the whole house, cook 2/3 times a day, clean after each meal, buy groceries, drive the kids around. You probabiky are the one who takes more care about the kids, not only play legos 😅😅. Changing them, cleaning them, feeding them, dressing them, paying very close attention to what they are doing etc... You also have way less control over finances since it's not you the one who works and earns money. So no, it's not retiring
@@somerando8615 The question wasn't about wether humanity should exist or not. It was about "is it ok to take rights and freedoms away from people for the sake of humanity".
@@TheDonnyl the answer is yes it's not for the sake of humanity it's for our own sake we are the "humanity" the same way your freedom in society is taken away to make it function better.
Known about Destiny for a long time now, but never really watched him until now. Really funny and smart guy!
Long time fan of his, but be warned that on his channel its a coinflip btwn these very insightful and productive conversations, vs aneurism inducing debates against people with mental illness. Goodluck LOL
Destiny meets whoever he’s talking to at their level basically
yeah, but that's a girl's name, and I really can't look past that
Yea most of the stuff you hear about him is from his wild conversations with crazy internet people, but his conversations with level-headed humans are usually really interesting.
He's literally turning into the blue pill he represents.
Destiny fan here. Saw you on tiktok, and subbed here now. I'm glad there are people like y'all who are giving the balanced take between some of the cringe red pill messaging and progressive messaging which at times seems disconnected from reality. I'm glad I met my wife 12 years ago, before the dating scene has dramatically shifted to where it is now. Today, I'm not sure if we would've found each other.
Thanks!
Right because she would never date you now. She’d be one of the many woman sharing a Chad and deluding themselves into thinking he will ultimately choose her.
When this happens, you wouldn’t describe it as “cringe” anymore. Rather, you’d describe it as realistic.
@@ThomasFoolery8 I'd describe your comment as pure cringe.
@@minuit6305 good thing your opinion doesn’t matter. Facts are facts.
One of the most important points you have to consider when thinking about going into women dominated hobbies to try to find a woman to date is that you HAVE to try to enjoy or take the hobby seriously! If you just go into a space and completely ignore the activity you are by your actions telling the people there that you think their hobby is dumb. My recommendation of a woman dominated space that generally loves when a guy shows up is dance class, especially older styles. Even if you are not super attractive it's built into dancing that you pair up. I've seen 250+ lbs obese men find someone to date in class. But! You have to engage with the class not only go to touch women. Also personal hygiene is very important when you go dancing (it's okay if you are sweaty after the class ends).
How do you feel about whether women should appreciate male hobbies: is it the same? Is it necessary? If not, why? Curious. From my experience, it seems when women enter male-dominated hobbies, men then mock them and treat them badly. It's at least this way online with games.
@@elmhurstenglish5938 Men mock each other all the time. With gaming it's a bit different (there are a lot of incels) but in the real world, with male-dominated hobbies such as shooting, BMX riding etc, yeah a woman would be shat apon but not any more then every other guy would.
@@elmhurstenglish5938 When it comes to games, yeah I'm not surprised to find sexist incels mocking women sadly. You're behind a screen and you can't get kicked in the balls for what you say like you would IRL.
But otherwise, I've joined parkour and Aikido and I actually don't find bantering outside of people who already know each other well, both men and women. Cuz y'know, you don't just call a stranger a bitch or pig for barely any reason. Gender is irrelevant there I'm pretty sure lol.
Women do join those hobbies and I haven't seen frequent sexist mocking and stuff from guys, at least here in Jakarta Indonesia. People are there for the hobby and most of all, the people aren't antisocial incels lol.
Some may be pretty sexist but it's out of the usual conservativeness here, not an off-the-charts crazy sexist like rage gamers. Or in the case that there _is_ that kinda environment outside of internet/gaming, well I'd just avoid it then. Surely there's other clubs/classes of the same hobby to join where the guys know how to be decent humans.
ye but it feels like all the women know why those guys are there so doesnt it make it turbo awkward
Doesn’t work. You’ll just become everyone’s “brother” and “oh my god, I feel like I can trust you. I wish I could find a guy like you”
Destiny fan here, I thoroughly enjoyed listening to this podcast. You guys have honestly been a pleasant surprise. Definitely one of the most wholesome collabs Steven has done these past few months. I wish more of the people he tends to talk to on stream were more like you guys. This was such a great example of how you can have good conversation without constantly screaming past each other or resorting to ad homs and pejoratives.
Great convo. Thanks for the second part.👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Please please please organize your videos into playlists. It makes channels infinitely easier to navigate and a lot of viewers will appreciate it. Starting playlist when you've only uploaded 18 videos will be so much easier and then you just sort them accordingly as you go.
Thanks for the tip!
@@theemilyandtoddpodcast add timestamps too please! i dont wanna watch the whole interview would help to have sections! :)
I'm a bit older. In my 40s. Recently got out of a relationship that I'd been in since my 20s. Took a good look at what the dating scene was like, and I'm now thinking of becoming a monk instead.
Monkmaxxing is unironically pretty good for below average guys. This is something I think blackpillers miss, they need to focus on finding happiness and drive to move on outside dating
@@danielsurvivor1372 and the funny part is I don't even consider myself a below average guy. I just don't want to wade into the cesspool. I've got everything going for me except for a good career, which is like having a car with all the options but no engine.
@@SantamanitaClauscaria Brutal but it's not over for you brother! Hope you gonna improve and have your happy life!
@@danielsurvivor1372just be a monk bro even though you’ve never experienced women
This was such a good interview! The topics were interesting, the vibe was fun, good stuff 👌
Another excellent conversation, thank you!
Thanks for watching and commenting!
I agree with that one point Todd said about picking a same gender therapist.
I always found it easier to open up to a male therapist vs a female therapist.
This "destiny" girl is pretty good at talking!
wonderfull conversation both parts! this made me think im acutally pretty on point with alot of my speculations around dating and more. Enjoyed!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This podcast needs more traffic for sure keep going guys 👍
Thanks! We just started 2 months ago!
Honestly I don’t think I’d want to talk to a woman therapist, not that they aren’t fully capable. I just don’t think we’d be able to connect/they’d be able to understand me.
In the same way my wife didn’t want a male birth trauma therapist. There’s just no way they could have understood her experience
We agree!
It was because you were in Nebraska Steven, I am from Southern California and when I was in elementary school we had a pin system not a paper lunch ticket, I also graduated highschool in 2007.
At 40:20.
Todd said Tik Tok is “Junk Food for the brain”.
Perfect.
LOL ty for the spoiler alert for the blade runner segment, you saved me
As someone from the RP/manosphere side this was a good conversation. No effective prescriptions as usual but acknowledges the new challenging landscape and a lot of clear realities
Why don't you think there were effective prescriptions? I heard a ton
@@LipSyncLover i heard none, they go back and forth and couldn't come up with anything definitive.
@monstercameron better places to approach women was a great prescription. Take better pictures...while it sounds dumb he's absolutely fucking right. Increasing your social skill by just getting used to complementing strangers in a way that's likely to be received well.
The fact that low body count women absolutely fucking care if a guy has had 500 women, so maybe DONT do that.
These were all good prescriptions.
Maybe you just think a prescription needs 12 specific steps? Idk.
@@LipSyncLover i just don't think those are effective prescriptions because they are the obvious ones, even the incels know all these. Looks maxing, gym maxing, social circle maxing, pua strats etc all documented obvious things yet men arent getting the results they want
@monstercameron if they were obvious then idk why dating apps are still full of God awful pictures on the male side. And there's a lot of men that treat speaking to a woman like speaking to aliens 🤷♀️ tell me if I'm wrong. I think incels often are in a sort of catch up mode because for whatever the reason, they missed a milestone or two in adolescence. And these missed milestones COMPOUND on each other. So if you're socially awkward or inept in your mid 20s and you're starting from scratch...it might take YEARS to get this up to a level of competency and results. I sometimes suspect that yes these are obvious but normies give it to incels not realizing how much time investment it's going to take on the incels part. And the incel doesn't realize it either. And they give up after a year or so of trying. The rest of the time, after talking to some, sounds like they've found themselves in a lonely rut...working long hours with not enough time to socialize and do these things. For them I really sympathize. I work from home. I'm already married and have a decent social group. If I didn't though holy fuck would I be lonely and at a loss.
I can cook an egg, I'm safe
50:53 Destiny brings up Vaush. The two are forever intertwined.
I am not a destiny fan boy, but I really enjoyed this one
Literally just hit subscribe after watching part one. New fan from the UK. Also
First!
Thanks!
really cool, cant wait for you guys to talk to destiny again!
Referencing discussion around 28:00, maybe guys don't want to expose weakness in our lives. If our relationship shows a weakness, someone could take it as a cue as where and how to approach your lady. And on the note of opening up to people about the difficulties in your relationship, its 100% true that you can poison the well if you leak your misgivings about your significant other to your friends and family. Your perspective might be skewed if you are no communicating well with you S.O., but to your family you might appear to be the victim, tainting that relationship.
You’re so right. I had a boyfriend and my cousin knew all of our problems and arguments. Eventually, she convinced me to break up with him and I ended up regretting it. I feel like when you’re in a relationship, the outsider perspectives is important because when you are in love with someone you can be blinded to red flags. What do you think about this?
I made that mistake with my first love. It was a pretty toxic relationship anyway. But now I have like two confidantes ill go to about my husband. Partly because...they actually LIKE my husband because one has met him and I've made sure not to just share negatives but the wonderful things he does. So when we have a real problem I feel like they're not just immediately going to tell me to leave. They're rooting for us to succeed as a couple and aren't afraid to say if I was the asshole. That's what healthy confiding should be
Really enjoyed the convo, this trio have a pretty good conversation vibe. Fun to listen to
24:58 The false premise in this question is: "...that personally make them unhappy..."
Everyone has a moral obligation to _themselves_ to lead satisfying and fulfilling lives. And IMO, the best way to do that is through the traditional family unit with a life long partner and raising kids and seeing them grow into their own success and their own families.
And not only is the perpetuation of humanity the by-product of it, the _desire_ for its perpetuation is as well.
But it is "in your opinion". What if a large portion of people decide that traditional family unit is not something that leads them to satisfying and fulfilling lives?
@@sovijus Really? I can tell you right now, not having kids is not just a deathbed regret, it's a regret a person feels _throughout_ their later years before they die.
@@sovijus There is no better route to having a satisfying and fulfilling life _throughout_ one's lifespan than lifelong monogamous marriage with a spouse whom you live out the rest of your life with, and raising one's own offspring.
Me exgf did computer science research, specifically for chatbots and similar things regarding human to AI communication. Her training was in linguistics with a masters in CS. It was creepy. She's definitely unwittingly building Skynet or Cube or something along those lines.
chat gpt is crazy already future is close
Came here from Destiny's channel. If dating is your guys thing, I'd like to rather selfishly ask to see if you or a sensible special guest have opinions on disability and dating, knowing there's others like me. I'll give some context to explain my situation. Hopefully it'll at least encourage others. Wall of text incoming:
To give an inaccurate summary of myself, I'm essentially quadriplegic with full time 24 hour care requirements. I'm 27, male, straight, unemployed, a recent Masters graduate in Biotech and currently live alone in my own apartment with the support provided by my government's welfare systems. I'm well put together mentally but have never had anything remotely close to having sexual interest from others (that I know of... if you're good enough company then disability often puts you into this weird "pet/little sibling" zone in others minds without them knowing). At first glance I'm an incel's wet (dry?) dream, yet I inherently prove them wrong by existing as well as I do. I also observe and learn vicariously well which has always led to the outcome of "I shouldn't ask this person I really like about that, we're not close enough". I often question that last part but always end up supporting my decisions.
Due to my inexperience and comparitively severe disability I don't really know where to start with dating. I know I'm not particularly desirable at a glance as it's difficult enough to make friends when most activities and jobs are difficult/impossible. I've heard horror stories about disability fetishists, happy endings from others and everything in-between. I don't really even know what I want outside of a mentally mature woman I find attractive and fun that wants me. I'm also not interested in sex for the sake of it, at least not currently.
Anyway, that's it. Do with that as you will.
Thanks for sharing your story. You seem like a very smart guy and have a great attitude despite your circumstances. I’ll do some research for you.
@@theemilyandtoddpodcast Thanks! I only use myself because I know myself. I guarantee it's a wide enough issue you could find people with similar experiences pretty quickly. Society has a tendency to glob disabled people into an othering monolithic entity as is shown by "specialist" dating services I've seen. Plus you need to be aware that it's even happening to you to know that it's happening... which is difficult for many in it. It's like if racism was... kind? You're not oppressed, just forgotten. It's tricky to explain without seeing it for yourself.
@@Crispman_777 i am your age and perfectly healthy guy and i find dating incredibly difficult already in my eyes you're damn hero if i was in your shoes i'd consider myself socially dead and wouldn't even bother trying. best of luck mate :)
@@Nanohamage Eh, you're given the hand you're dealt. I don't think that trying makes you a hero, but it's not like I'm advocating for taking life lying down. If anything just do it to spite the universe itself.
It’s over
In conclusion we are all fucked. I’m 23 years old and live in San Francisco, I don’t know anywhere else besides a bar and online dating where you can meet somebody new
Literally! This generation is actually fucked.
Bro fr I'm 26 and it's crazy where do you meet people (in a dating sense) once you fucking leave college. Like I know people mention stuff like gyms and what not but I know while I'm working out I don't want to be bothered and I assume most girls would be similar. The only thing that makes sense would be like joining some kind of social club or group activity where you could naturally just meet people but I know in my experience most of my hobbies tend to be male dominated . Like I think even making friends as an adult can be hard, like I have heaps of acquaintances or people I'm friendly with but like making actually proper friends. I could just be terrible at being social, but I generally don't feel that way I actually like talking to people and don't feel super shy or afraid of talking or anything,
@@Hazamatoxin making friends is easier than dating because gender doesn't matter all you need is to have some repeated social activity like idk what interest you pick any hobby for me it's going twice a week to a chess club where i meet same people over and over then it spills into private life aswell we go for a drink ect. As for dating may god help you when i figure it out i'll share xD
Rock climbing is a really good answer
3:08 And there's always that one unflushed toilet... 🤦🏿♂️
So I disagree with the stereotype of men that is being presented here , men in their 30s can't cook or clean or wash themselves. This is the peril of believing too much anecdotal evidences and getting sucked into Feminist circles. In my life experience I have found men can cook way better than many women , in fact these days women are more likely to confess they can not cook. I have lived with women roommates who are TERRIBLE in hygiene , can not cook , cant clean their own stuff , leaves the washroom dirty. All sorts of things. And then when they are confronted they often try to make excuses or flat out lies. Women are very good at appearing clean .. So these things needs to be taken with a dollop of salt. I myself cook and my women friends invite me to their homes to cook them some special dish. So c'mon , days are changing. I feel like women make a lot of excuses to not look at their own choices of men. If you are going for a guy who is generally an douche who can save you ?
29:50 This is SO TRUE holy fckn shiet!
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yea it's not all up to the guy we are all human and girls are not perfect the endless catering to oh what do the girls want.. the best advice I can give you is don't give two craps what someone else wants from you. You do you take care of your appearance, take care of your health, and be doing the things that make you happy and engaged and a relationship will come and find you. then treat that person with dignity and respect and your well ahead of the game
Great conversation! But please don't spoil movies without warning. Thank you.
Sorry!
lol
The movie is worth the watch still!
When i approached men to date they rejected me all the time. To be fair i wasn’t asking just to have random sex and men actually are pretty selective with who they date. The men who rejected me were smart cuz it turns out im a lesbian 😂
What the fuck
They probably were perceptive.
Then I would say you aren't very good looking, no offence. I see average girls being approached by good looking guys all the time.
Idk how effective this would be, but here's an out of the box strategy: go to spaces filled with old(er) women, and be really nice and make friends with them then mention you're single and looking so they'll set you up with their daughters or nieces or something
Edit: try to find an old(er) lady who knows a lot of people, like an overly friendly church lady
Honestly? It can work. Some older women was trying to set my then-fiance up with her daughter. Before realizing he was spoken for. But the tricky aspect there is....we're not in a society where our parents marry us off. They might set up a meeting but there's no guarantee the daughter is interested....or even appreciates their mom or aunt trying to set her up. For all you know she's a closeted lesbian and her parent notices she never has any boyfriends lol
@@LipSyncLover There also might be some bias against you just because the mom recommend you
@Debra Chambers ooh good point. My mom is so completely tone deaf on what kind of man I needed. If it were up to her she would've picked me a conservative Christian virgin that lets me have a job 😆 not the politically independent, atheist cynic with good work ethic and generally egalitarian relationship style ...that I ended up falling in love with and marrying. I wouldn't let my mom pick my men in a million years. She thinks oral sex is deviant.
@@LipSyncLover "she thinks oral sex is deviant" I was going to say that makes her a sucker, but I realized it means she isn't
@@debrachambers1304 lmao
4:08 Stacey/Becky is a slang, it just means 7+ or average in looks women respectively.
23:55 yes! Im onboard with Destiny here. Technological progress means we are destined for the stars. Do we necessarily need more people if the AI will eventually take over and are superior beings. Though you might argue this is a form of eugenics. It's a hard question many aren't ready to deal with
That thing about reading books is not for real men was literally said to Sam in Game of Thrones. And it's evident it's supposed to be a form of toxic machismo
Great podcast!
Thanks for listening
Great stuff, keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
One thing that I think concisely would help a lot guys starting at a very low point in regards to dating is this: try to not be gross. Clean yourself up, groom, don't smell bad, shower, cut your fuckin nails, exercise, watch *how* you speak to other people.
You honestly have not met a single lonely men if that’s your advice and that’s a happy situation. There is a big and growing amount of men who are like this, it’s not just the few greasy neck beard guys. They are in tons of different situations, on average they probably have the average style and grooming skills of the average man. The average man doesn’t know about hair are or skincare and they never messed to. Shower? Wtf?
Having a decent haircut and clothes does nothing for you with getting your butt in front of women and for talking to them correctly. Dating advice usually focuses on getting your butt in front of women and talking to them correctly. Wow thank you shower
@@minabotieso6944 I appreciate your reply so I'll go point by point based on what you said:
Your comment
"You honestly have not met a single lonely men if that’s your advice and that’s a happy situation. There is a big and growing amount of men who are like this, it’s not just the few greasy neck beard guys."
My reply
- So, I said what I said assuming that these "guys starting at a very low point" are still talking with people IRL on a semi-regular basis from hanging out with friends, work, or hobbies. I acknowledge that many guys are fucking lonely as it is and have a hard time talking with people, but that was something I was assuming. Apologies, I should have made that more explicit in my comment.
- I mentioned these seven simple things to do because I've met enough guys who don't do these things and yet have the expectation that getting girls shouldn't be this hard, let alone getting with the ones you are most interested in.
Your comment
"They are in tons of different situations, on average they probably have the average style and grooming skills of the average man. The average man doesn’t know about hair are or skincare and they never messed to. Shower? Wtf?"
My reply
- I'm not quite sure what you are saying. Are you saying that average men already do these things that I mention? Sure, I can imagine most average men do have good grooming habits but again, I mentioned guys starting at a *very* low point. I wasn't talking about average guys.
Your comment
"Having a decent haircut and clothes does nothing for you with getting your butt in front of women and for talking to them correctly. Dating advice usually focuses on getting your butt in front of women and talking to them correctly. Wow thank you shower"
My reply
- Yes, I agree, having a decent haircut and clothes does nothing for getting you in front of women. Again, this is something I should have made more explicit, I assumed the guys I was talking about were already getting a semi-regular amount of social interaction from friends, work, or hobbies. However, I did mention "watch how you talk to other people". What I mean here is this: learn how to be personable and learn how to say things in a non-abrasive way (have finesse) so that people are left thinking "wow, I actually like talking with this guy".
- You are correct, focusing on getting your butt in front of women matters A LOT for guys. But if you're not appealing to look at or be around, then you won't have as good results as you could when you're put in front of women. So, work on both.
@@sneakers_guy5488 it will surprise you if your social life is going great but the stats on friendless-ness and loneliness are sadly really high now and growing for more people than just men.
In today’s society you don’t even have to be at your lowest point to have very few friends. It’s not uncommon. I think it’s pretty reasonable to say that the people who take care of their appearance the least, at their lowest point, are the worst with making friends and dating. No reason to look presentable if there is no one to do it for.
I think if someone has a really great social life then no matter if their appearance is perfect or not, they are better off than most with friendships and datinf
Honestly, I agree with Destiny when he said men are making horrible mistakes. There are so many different ways to approach a woman and impress her but sadly sex has taken over dating. It seems like a woman is a prize for a man and all they seem to want is sex. Might just be my experience however all my female friends have experienced the same problem within dating.
While I agree, women nowadays are not doing themselves any favors. They market themselves as sexual objects via their social media, their clothes, and by having superficial personalities and then are surprised when guys just want them for sex
Because some men get sex handed to them on a platter while others do not. It’s a reasonable assumption to think that the men who don’t get it outright are being settled for their stability and money, not that they’re sexually attractive.
While I can understand why someone can have this perspective as a women because my female friends show me the fucking goofy/ fucked up shit guys do, however there are a lot of pretty normal non-horny obsessed dudes who are trying and failing out there. Don't get me wrong men need to get their shit up but I do think society is becoming way more isolated and dating is becoming way more fucky going beyond the "men are only treating women like sex objects'
@@Hazamatoxin no there’s not they just hide it better
@@theghostofumarskoolishere.4632 If that's your opinion then I have nothing to say except you're delusional and have an extremely cynical view of men and nothing I have to say is gonna change your mind, so have a good day.
Idk man I’m not that worried about this idea of everyone staying in and chatting with AI’s. The idea that EVERY person would be down to just give up sex is ludicrous to me.
Plus I’d imagine that even if it happened to a significant number of people there would still be a group of ambitious people who, no matter how good the AI is for your mental health, STILL feel A LITTLE weird that it’s not a real person, and would still try to get out
this was a really good conversation. i like how Todd holds Destiny accountable
we need to develop emp’s asap
Maybe it's just me, but I am waaaaaay more comfortable talking to women than men. I have only ever seen female therapists for this reason.
@@Nei982cause women are naturally better socially
sure
Do guys understand the concept of going to a concert that they like? Let's say you like Childish Gambino, and you go to his concert. You can make new friends and meet new people there. There's already a major ice breaker already done for you. At the very least, the one common thing you guys can have is you like the same artist.
great stuff 👍👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Destiny is a good liberal
1:20:56 I wish so badly this was the case. But this is quite literally the needle in the haystack.
Then probably get out of whatever RL environment/online community you're on where the women don't require you to have a high body count. It still puzzles me how there could be so much of that kinda women that you would say they're the majority. Could be from me being in a pretty conservative country. The women I know are either indifferent, scared or disgusted of what's essentially fuckboys. It's ok if the guy just has been with a couple previous girlfriends, but multiple casual sex? Different story
The female population in conventions has increased a lot since 2017. I met a lot of my sexual partners and girlfriends at conventions and most of them were cosplayers like me. The shared hobby open a bridge to conversation and you will see where the day goes
Never knew people actually willingly spoke to chatbots.
Why is that a bad thing??
Personally I've given up on finding love or even date. There exist more than enough sedation out there, so it's not like I have depression, quite the contrary - I can't wait to go home while at work.
The idea of approaching anyone anymore feels ridiculous to me now. Not going to ever put myself into that situation anymore and. Less friction all the way baby. 2 houses, 6'1 feet, 6 figure wage. Staying at home living his best life not even trying lol. I mean just rub one out and all the dumb drive to ridicule yourself to meet a woman is gone. Not caring is freedom.
Guys do talk about relationships and sexual problems. But those guys have to be your close friends.
If relationships could be marginally as stimulating and rewarding as video games and the internet, then other people might get more of my time.
are there any youtube channels that talk about dating advice for women. idk what im doing wrong that i can't get dates on dating apps. i don't like drinking so going to bars isn't appealing to me. I try going out to social events but I'm pretty introverted so it's hard for me to be as talkative as a normal person.
Looking for advice for women? Literally just search theirs a ton it's just got a very different tone than male aimed dating advice.
Maybe Ana psychology? Most female dating advice is the "yass girlboss"
Just exist
You can tell the woman was super uncomfortable when Steven started talking about the Post human futurism stuff. This is a very uncomfortable conversation for most "normies".
I enjoyed it!
@@theemilyandtoddpodcast I'm really curious though how did you feel about that part? I feel the points he made are generally under appreciated
Really good conversations. DggL
Heaven or Hell is inside the machine
what about speed dating
We need to bring that back! Great comment!
personally, not a fan. did just two speed dates so far, and chatted actually more with the barista (who was a dude btw. no, i am not gay) and had more fun than with any of the female participants. I had more interesting conversations with my wall than some of these broads. usually, what you will discover at speed dates are the "left overs" that do not get anything. also, most (not all, there wer some decent dudes there as well) dudes there are also weird. would consider myself also weird and a nerd, i am an introvert, shy, but even I have some basic social norms down. these guys behaved like meeting people outside of their family for the first time in their lives. so, I guess what i am saying is it can be pretty hit and miss, i would not count to it, if you got nothing better to do, ehhh, why not try it. but would agree with RisingChaos, it is sort of like proto-online dating as in you only have a very short time and go mostly on looks. setting up a longer date one on one instead of having 10 mins per person seems way better to me.
@@Luemm3l I'm just saying out of all the options its the easiest where there is no in your face rejection, you know they there looking for relationship and id imagine your odds go up a tiny bit with face to face interaction than on tinder.
The reason AI will replace women and not men is because women want money and free labor out of men, and an AI bot can’t give you money.
Regarding a relationship with an AI: I think that, as soon as you know it's an Ai, it's a massive turn-off. At that point, it's a machine that is designed to trick you or make you feel special or whatever. At the end of the day, what people are looking for isn't a facsimile that approximates another person that cares about them, they want a real person to care about them. In a world where Ai is that ubiquitous and we know it's capable of imitating people, I think the smart person will just assume that any online conversation is with an Ai and just tune out of that space entirely. Dumb people may be tricked, just like how some people think they are talking to the girl on OnlyFans now, despite how stupid that is.
So long as AI sentient and gets appropriate body, most men wouldn't care. Men are tired of being treated like trash, so eventually science will invent a way out
first of all most people aren't rly smart they get tricked by simple bitcoin bots let alone sophisticated A.I and A.I is selfless unlike real people so if anybody is going to care about you it's going to be A.I
@@Nanohamage But what does that even mean? A machine that is made to care about you cares about you? Who cares?
Worse before it gets better? I think if you focus on your path of least resistance argument, it's highly likely with advancements in AI....AND robotics, men will eventually choose AI-based robotic females for sexual and psychological relations. It'll simply be the easiest option. See Japan for phenomena already occurring to some degree. Ultimately, you say people will speak to AI when it's good enough...and unfortunately, men WILL have sex with robots when it's good enough.
Destiny is a girl’s name
Gayyyy..
Dead memes are dead.
I see this all the time and I get really annoyed, maybe I'm just missing something but isn't it completely normal for a woman to have a girls name?
@@ryn1706 Had me in the first half
boring old meme
boring ass joke
1:05:00
I'm a woman and a huge gamer but I'm kind of wary of dating guys that have gaming as a number one and only hobby.
The internet is saturated with stories about male gamers who spend every moment of "free" time (read: chore time) in front of their pcs while their partners get more and more frustrated.
I have different hobbies and I rarely game more than for a few hours every few days simply because there is other stuff to do. Having gaming as your only hobby is like watching youtube/tiktok/netflix as your only hobby: it's just kind of boring.
@@anderson-gb8rp everyone who isn't spending all the time gaming is now a Chad? 90% of the male population can then opt for a name change.
If you want to spend every moment of your time gaming, why even want a relationship in the first place? Keep being salty.
@@anderson-gb8rp how the hell did you get that from my comment which was only about gaming as a hobby?
Wait, I know: it started and ended with "I'm a woman". By your logic, if you were a woman, you'd be a stacy.
@user-qp1mg8ox6l cry me a river and kindly shut up. This whining victim complex attitude you're giving me is getting old really fast.
Dating sucks for men but quit crying and ranting to me about it since nothing in my comments is arguing against that statement. Should I hold you accountable for what the generalised stereotype of men is doing, like trying to trick and push women into having sex? Don't be so pathetic to attack everyone who says "I'm a woman". You sound like you have some serious issues.
@@anderson-gb8rp yum yum, incel angry tears. Keep em coming.
I kinda agree, I'm a dude I love gaming as well but I do other shit, sports, gym, mountain biking on top of chores etc..... and yeah while maybe for like a specific game I am hyped for I may block out a specific block of time to binge play a specific game game ( I love story based games and JRPG's).....but at this point in my life I absolutely can't just game all day everyday. I have to keep my fucking house and room clean, which means regular cleaning,vaccuming, washing and that all takes more time than you think on top of obvious stuff like my job and gym stuff. I know I couldn't be with a girl who just gamed as their one and only hobby. Also dude IDK why this dude started raging for no reason, you mentioned some thign valid and Anderson here screaming about "Chad" and a carousel.....the fuck????
what the heck is 5 in 1?
that's what i'm wondering too. i suspect some kind of skin care product
5 in 1 refers to a shampoo + conditioner + body wash + face wash + something else bottle
What's bad about it is that they tend to be very cheap, do the 5 things poorly, and often are poorly formulated hence they can mess up your hair and skin.
@@derusmares9508 i see. thanks for the explanation!
32:15 must be about Ana lol
42:34 So, the Sibyl System in Psycho Pass?
49:28 Ahahaha
50:00 True, but if our species dies out because of that supreme pleasure and leisure. That's unironically a worthy death.
Anyone got Destiny's wifes IG page since he's okay with anyone sliding up in her DM's and of course her p-sleeve?
Ugh I can't stand when there's a woman apart of these conversations who is basically a bimbo the whole time. Just agreeing with everything the men say. 🙄
She literally added nothing to the conversation.
Love Des Tiny
Destiny is the new Wheat Waffles! This guy is funny! He proves many points. January 1, 2023. USA.
How is he the new Wheat Waffles? Destiny is barely redbilled, let alone blackpilled. He's ignorant and downplays how bad dating is for men all the time.
not even close
All the good guys are at home lol.
If your a average dude with no money your dying alone
Money status only attract gold digging longterm prostitution relationship
Men who use money status to attract women will be used and never know genuine attraction
Just get money status bro
Looks trumps all you can have all the money status you want no girl will genuinely like you
You guys need to get inhabit of posting the information correctly into the description of the video. You need to link part 1 if there is a part 1 in this series.
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3:00 this is a lie, cuz ive never seen a bigger hell hole than when i helped my brothers college gf move out of her all girl house
1:06:05 also you need to have a lot of money, cuz otherwise you should be making (them) money instead of gaming
no amount of tattoos takes away from a woman's femininity and that includes piercings too.
Was about to agree but then I remembered that orylan girl 😱
@@fotgreckless didn't know who she was, then googled her. Seems to still look feminine to me, I think people mistake feminine to mean only normie and innocent looking. For example Freyr in the god of war Ragnarok game she looks very feminine but has tattoo sleeves and Sif too
@@fotgreckless though I will say you have to be careful with what face tattoos you get and still look feminine if that is your aim
Depends on the tattoo
@@wanderergrim look closer
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24:14 This is a deceptive way to frame marriage. The real question is, "Do you want to retire at 20. You can be a house husband, play legos with the kids, and push a vacuum cleaner around for an hour a day for the rest of your life. You'll never have to go into the office ever again."
Your is way more deceptive lol. Being a sah mom or dad isn't retiring. It's like a job. You gotta clean the whole house, cook 2/3 times a day, clean after each meal, buy groceries, drive the kids around. You probabiky are the one who takes more care about the kids, not only play legos 😅😅. Changing them, cleaning them, feeding them, dressing them, paying very close attention to what they are doing etc... You also have way less control over finances since it's not you the one who works and earns money. So no, it's not retiring
wow this SJW had some surprisingly OK opinions
Social justice warrior is what everyone should be, unfortunately larpers made it cringe to say/be it.
Dude why is his hair blue
Because he dyed it
He dyed as a charity donation goal
23:49 This is the most leftist talking point I've ever heard.
Him: "I don't know what the answer is."
You: LEFTIST TALKING POINTS 🥴🥴🥴
"I don't know if humanity should exist" is pretty out there bro.
@@somerando8615 The question wasn't about wether humanity should exist or not. It was about "is it ok to take rights and freedoms away from people for the sake of humanity".
@@TheDonnyl the answer is yes it's not for the sake of humanity it's for our own sake we are the "humanity" the same way your freedom in society is taken away to make it function better.
this is good
Destiny literally adds no insight here, he's just saying random shit lol.
How lmao?
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