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FJALLRAVEN V HILLEBERG - SIDE BY SIDE TENT REVIEW - ABISKO LITE 1 V AKTO
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- IN DEPTH SIDE BY SIDE REVIEW OF THE FJALLRAVEN ABISKO LITE 1 AND HILLEBERG AKTO TENTS
* ABISKO Lite 1 tent is only 55cm wide, not 70cm as stated in the video*
Great review and I'm in 100% agreement on your assessment of both tents. I really wanted to like the Hilleberg but the Abisko won for me too plus it's cheaper as you say!
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching 👍
Wow, so similar. Great review, very helpful when deciding which one to get. Thanks 👍
Many thanks Kirsty 👍
Great review. A tip with the Akto door is to roll it from the bottom, left to right (as you are looking at it from the outside), not upwards or diagonally. It will not come undone when the wind hits it. ATB Jiffy 👍🏻
Good man, I'll give that a bash 👍 I knew I was probably doing it wrong, these things are always harder after a long day hiking or more likely I'm just getting old lol...cheers for the tip bud
@@WestieTravels No worries mate, I was having the same issue until someone showed me 👍🏻
This is an excellent review! Thanks very much
Appreciate you taking the time to watch it and comment 👍
Cool review. I'm planning to maybe do the West Highland Way in a few years, alone or with a mate. I would go for the Fjälraven Abisko 1 for sure. Thanks, greetings from the Netherlands.
Many thanks for the comment, the Abisko lit 1 is a great tent, but space is really limited, it's lighter than the 2 but not by much and you get a lot more room. As always it's a personal choice either weight saving or a bit of comfort and space. Good luck on your hike the West highland way is a great walk with stunning views 👍
I have the abisco light 1... have had it up mountains in some real heavy storms. It preformed excellently.. I lent it to a friend who had always used the akto, he was very impressed and now has one... someone said it's what the akto would be if hilleberg upgraded it.. I love my abisco light 1...
Spot on mate 👍 that was exactly my thoughts on it, it's as if fjallraven took the 20 year old Akto and fixed everything that would improve it, the Akto is still a great wee tent and over a longer period, it may prove to be more durable, fabric wise.
@@WestieTravels like a lot of our type , I have a collection of tents (which keeps getting bigger, against my family's wishes )... so I can switch and swap my tents as the conditions require... so I don't have to think about any 1 tent getting worn out.. I have cheap and expensive tents, I don't discriminate.. infact one of my favourite tents is my little 40 odd pound bobcat 1.. that tent has survived storms that would trash many other tents.. I have semi-retired the bobcat because I don't want anything to happen to it. Like my abisco I have grown to love it... I am waiting for my vern 1 to be delivered ( yes I fell for the hype ) but will not be able to truelly test it till winter... Take care out there.
Haha, I'm the exact same, far too many tents but I genuinely believe I need every single one of them, there's no such thing as a perfect piece of kit, just kit that perfect for a certain type of situation...let me know how you get on with the vern, I was tempted myself lol 👍
@@WestieTravels kit !!! Tell me about it.. I have a list that I never seem to complete. As I buy things I add more things to the list. Somehow the list just keeps getting longer. I have multiples of things.. because of different season's, different weather's, over nighters versus multiple dayers.. on and on it goes.. have just started recording and posting my camps so my grandkids will have somthing to watch later on ( iam getting them into camping, & take them out sometimes ).. I am completely uneducated with computers and technology, so now iam going to have to start buying equipment as I learn more.. have been told that can get as addictive as the camping kit..
Perfectly summed up ref kit! With regards to learning all the technology with regards to recording your trips and editing, it shocked me how much work is required to a hike/camp video of a trip....great thing is it encourages you to get of the couch and head into the wilds 👍⛺🎬
Great review. I would choose the Fjällräven. I think its the more advanced "Akto".
Totally agree 👍 great tent, thanks for the comment
Seeing as one of the manufacturers recommends a waterproof covering for your sleeping bag, or a little towel to wipe down the condensation on the inner of the tent, and then charges you a considerable amount more then the other manufacturer, the decision is easy !!!
Indeed it is 👍
Went for Abisko 1, so far so good. My friend has an Akto, also great (both in my most recent video)
Great review, thank you
Many thanks 👍 appreciate you taking the time to comment 😄⛺🎥
Brilliant review , bro. 🖌️🎨
Thanks Gaz, appreciate it 👍
I was comparing these tents for about 3 months. And ended up buying the Hilleberg Akto. The fabric is just so much stronger, so easy to set up, and bigger vestibule. Love it 🌲
Yeah, it's definitely still a great tent and the fabric does seem stronger, but having used both for ages, I do prefer the Fjallraven, the Akto door does my head in 👍
You need to roll the door correctly. If im not mistaken, Hilleberg have a video on how to do it. If you do it like you did in the video, you will be mad haha 😂
Good man, I'll check that out! Though who'd have thought you'd need a video to figure out how to roll a tent door up lol....I had a feeling it was me doing it wrong 👍⛺😄
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Excellent review! Just lost my Lanshan 2 pro to storm Kathleen on the Arran Coastal Way and I'm on the lookout for a sturdy 1 man...atb Sinco
Many thanks for taking the time to comment, much appreciated 👍 check out my other video on fjallraven tents I did recently, you should definitely have a look at the ABISKO lie 2 tent, it's only 350g more than the ABISKO lite 1 but gives you tons more room and is still a 4 season tent
Wow..what happened to lanshan ?
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The abisko light has a moveable floor too. Gives you much more room for cooking in the vestibule
Yeah, use it all the time, must have forgotten to mention it 😊 many thanks for taking the time to watch it 👍
Akto is longer than stated as the ends slope away so, as long as you lie on a pad and not directly on the ground, you benefit from the extra length.
Great review mate.
I have the Abisko too
You also on the Abisko can push the inner in on the toggle to make the vestibule bigger 👍👍
Atb Graham.
Thanks bud, appreciate the nice comments 👍 yeah, I know about pushing the inner tent in and even filmed it for the review but for some reason missed it in my editing, must be an age thing!!!😉
@@WestieTravels
I know what you mean.
They are great tents.
Atb Graham
From research it looks like the akto has 30d fabrics for fly/inner vs. 15/20d for the abisko. Do you think the abisko can hold up to iceland winds? I'm able to find one as cheap as $414 USD. I'd probably pay at least $150 more for an Akto on sale.
I’ve just gone through the process of thinking of buying one of these two tents.. I bought neither. Instead I went with the Tarptent Scarp 1 Ultra TNT with the carbon cross poles, a solid inner and a full mesh inner and a tyvek groundsheet all for a price (Inc import from the states) less than either of these tents.
Yeah, they are very expensive tents, how are you finding the tarptent scarp? 👍⛺
Hiya buddy great comparison as usual did you eventually get the footprints for your 1 and 2 abiskos? Well worth it!
Cheers bud, appreciate it 👍 not got round to it yet, but definitely will do, getting fed up swapping my current footprint between tents ⛺
Been a very wet stat to the year. Best wishes out there.
You're not wrong, been good to see the days getting longer now, certainly been a wet start to the year, as you say 👍⛺
LOL try telling that to the liars at the United Nations! They keep trying to convince us that this is the hottest year ever and that wee need to give up all our private property to make the Earth cool down by climate lockdowns see UK Column News for the truth.
I have used abisko for 2 nights in some very strong winds and helm 1 for abt 6 nights..so far i must say helm somehow feels better.more stable in wind and so easy to set up, and abisko did leak a bit .All the lightweigh stuff cost a lot but not necessary perform better.
Terra nova make some decent kit, the helm has two poles so would definitely feel more solid but at nearly 2kg is heavier and for that weight you could get the ABISKO lite 2 tent which gives more room but as you say, the ABISKO range are very expensive... definitely no such thing as a perfect tent, you gain in some things and lose in others... thanks for sharing your thoughts on it, always good to hear different opinions 👍
@@WestieTravels yes abisko 2 looks good..
i m using abisko 1 with a footprint, and considering a second pole ..so then it all will weight same as helm one. helm got more inner space also. but i want to like the abisko 1 :)
@@WestieTravels what's your opinion on using a footprint on abisko? floor feels thin and siliconized material is more difficult to repair..otherwise i would be just happy to leave footprint behind to save weight..
I always use a footprint, though to be honest, I used an old one from another tent, I only want to protect the bottom but don't like it in my porch areas, as I like to cook using meths and pour out my cooking water
I just seam sealed my Abisko 1 as it comes with sealant, doubt it will leak.
Thank you for the review. I already have the Abisko Lite 1/2 on mind for some time, but whats holding me back since is that lots of people in the online-forums complain about the declining quality of fjallraven cloth. I dont know if thats true or not, and neither if thats true for there tents. Also I am concerned about customer support in case something breaks. Do you have some experience to share?
thank you!
No experience of their customer service as yet, but so far never had any problems with any of my three Fjallraven tents and find each of the tents have been built to a high standard. Guess only time will tell with the durability of the fabric. It does seem thin, but I decided to risk it and see how they last, so far so good 👍⛺
@@WestieTravels Thanks for the answer :)
No worries 👍
Also have the Abisko Lite 1 with an additional pole kit for an extra bit of security as well as the additional 3 season mesh inner for the summer months. Can't fault it at all.
Good to know, have you used the 2nd pole much since you got it and does it add much strength to the tent?
@@WestieTravelshave used it a few times now and it just makes it so more solid
Cheers 👍 might look into getting a second pole then.
@@WestieTravels Good Luck trying to get them, they're always sold out. I did use Fjallraven's notification system, and also emailed them asking when the next batch was due. Worth the wait to have that extra bit of a safety net if you know the wind might shift during the night and end up being a crosswind. You also get another 4 of the corner poles.
Cheers bud, good to know, will keep my eye out for them 👍
To my eyes I always find sand tents to be the ultimate in stealth. They just seem to melt into whatever landscape pitched on. Unlike green tents on green grass.
Totally agree, sand is my favourite colour too 👍
Very grateful for your videos mate, I got mad ADHD and if something else is rapid I can't understand it. I actually learn from the tempo of your content. Many thanks and all the best!
@marvellis6762 Ah man, really appreciate that, kinda new to making these videos, so comments like yours, really do make a huge difference to me, cheers 👍
I fail to see how the poles on the ''outside'' the Abisko is an advantage over the Akto, when you talk about putting the poles together pre pitch, when you can simply open the top of the Akto bag and pull the poles out leaving the tent still inside the bag. Same thing. I do agree with you on chosing the Abisko though, as an overall tent. 🙂
Just a personal opinion, I do mention that the Akto goes up quicker because of the corner poles, but find the ABISKO corners feel a bit more solid and upright! The Akto is still an excellent tent, it just feels a bit dated now and that fjallraven have taken the 20 year old Akto and fixed what was missing on it.... Appreciate you commenting though as I could talk about kit all day long 😊👍
Maybe I am wrong but in my opinion someone says akto has more stronger fabric and etc but and the price of akto is 100-200 gbp more than Abisko
The most part of people who buy those tents will not see extremely bad storm regularly ( my experience)
So I bought my Abisko lite 1 with fp for 450 gbp and decided do not pay more money for almost equal tent
Maybe who has more money can consider both, in my case I chose cheaper Abisko and think it will be no worse !
Wish the best for all hikers
Both tents are great but depends on your pocket
Cheers
Hilleberg produces in Europe whereas Fjällräven does in China. That's why they can offer it cheaper. To me it feels better to own a product Made in Europe.
great review.
Thanks bud 👍 appreciate you taking the time to comment 😊
I own the Abisko 1 , the only tent I have , a cracking little all rounder .
Yeah, it's my go to tent for wid conditions on the mountains, I recently purchased the ABISKO lite 2 tent and absolutely love it, a lot more room for just under 350 grams and still a four season tent...happy trails bud 👍
Should have done the decathlon forclaz as it’s a mix of the two
Not seen that tent ⛺ I'll check it out later, cheers 👍
BTW, does anybody know if the Abisko lite 1 can fit a 25" inflatable pad? It looks to be designed to hold only 20" pads?
Id imagine it would be fine unless you had a really long sleeping pad, as the tent tapers from wide in the middle to narrow at both ends, unless your mat is 240cm long then it would probably fit in at a tight squeeze 👍
@@WestieTravels I'm talking about the Big Agnes Rapide long wide hence 64cm x 198cm or 25"x78". I'm now just with the tent in the cart waiting to pull the trigger! :D
It will fit, but will be tight at either end where it narrows in, have you had a look at the ABISKO lite 2 tent? I prefer it to the ABISKO 1, only 350g heavier, but so much more room and still a 4 season tent
@@WestieTravels I was initially looking at 1 person tunnel tents to minimize space. The other option probably could be the Abisko 2 o even a Hilleberg Unna. Still willing though to buy the Abisko 1 lite but can't find anybody who is using it with 64cms mats :D :D
@@PepeLotas-hg3mt I use the Rapide SL in my Abisko 1 and it does fit. Feels slightly too wide, but so far it works. :)
May be helpful..
Abisko internal width at the ends is 55cm not 70cm
Akto internal width at the ends is 62cm
So Akto is wider not Abisko
You're absolutely right, just rechecked the fjallraven site, I've accidentally given the external width, many thanks for pointing out my error, appreciate you taking the time to let me know 👍
Coz of what you're wearing, if I squint you look like Spiderman's dad.
Haha, brilliant, top notch comment, that one made me laugh 🤣 although I did know you would post that due to my Spidey senses 👍
@@WestieTravels Haha, glad I could help brighten your day 😀
You certainly did bud, funniest comment yet on my channel, bravo sir 👍
You don't have to roll your Akto poles up inside the tent, just stuff them inside the bag next to the tent.
That's certainly an option, but one I personally wouldn't do as I've always been taught to keep the poles rolled up inside the tent so the risk to ripping the tent fabric is lessened, all personal preference I suppose 👍⛺
@@WestieTravelsI've been stuffing my poles down the side of the tent in the bag for 30 years since I got my first Hilleberg, never rolled them up in the middle. Never had any problems.
Noticed you also quoted the Abisko internal length as 240cm and the Hilleberg as 220cm, whereas they are actually both 220cm.
And you can open and close the Hilleberg's end vents without going outside, you just have to reach round the end of the inner.