Interstellar SPOILER talk
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- Опубліковано 9 лис 2014
- Interstellar has divided moviegoers and Nolan fans alike. Love it, hate it, like it, get completely confused by it; there are a lot of spoilers to talk about. Jeremy gives you his thoughts, and further explanations on what he liked, and what he didn't like about the movie in his "Interstellar SPOILER talk"!
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I feel like a dumbass saying this but, am I the only one who didn't know cooper was gonna be the ghost?
I actually thought it was her dead mother.
I'll be honest. I knew it with the first 'handshake'. It just felt too weird. I actually leaned towards my friend and told him how stupid it would be if Cooper is the guy who is from the future? The whole ending was a huge cop out to a beautifully directed movie.
I got kinda infuriated with Jeremy when he said that.
He didn't call TDKR bad just because it didn't make sense, had plotholes and inconveniences, and tried to make a weak "plot twist" with Talia Al Ghoul which he even admitted to be stupid enough to forget about in a moment. (So did I, and I don't think he's stupid, just trying to quote the guy."
Also, in Two Towers, they try to hide Gandalf's ressurection, and it's horribly obvious that the wizard we see is in fact Gandalf. Does that make the movie worse? Not in my opinion, but obviously in Jeremys.
I thought it was a GRAVITY PROBLEM because of the combines... I thought the NASA was under his house in a bounker so they test gravity and shits
La Tortuga
Or people don't like his movies because he can't write natural sounding dialogue and his pacing is all over the place. Why would a NASA scientist needs every single scientific theory explained to him in layman's terms? Why would Matt Damon's character, a trained NASA pilot, not notice he wasn't docked properly and still try to open the hatch? Why did it seem like they were on that water planet for 15 min, but then it turns out they were there for longer than 3 hours (nothing indicated that passage of time)?
Michael Caine living another 23 years is also absurd and made worse by the fact that to show he's older they put him in a wheelchair and that's it. They didn't even attempt to change his makeup: "Just put him in a wheelchair; it'll look fine!" And the lines about "love" were the worst. I don't care that the science was fake, but the fact that they undermined it with the cliche "love conquers all" slant was too much.
You sound like a child who can't handle the fact that people have different opinions than you and dismiss any criticism as "haterz" when it's just down to taste and how you respond to a cheesy cliched story. If you enjoyed the movie, why isn't that enough? Why get upset when others don't like it?
Everyone could predict the ghost would be Matthew? Gosh looks like i'm just fucking stupid but oh well, I enjoyed it
+AvramSMH I didn't know it was going to be Matthew either :P I'm right there with you my friend.
I didn't know either lol
+AvramSMH Same
I thought it was gonna be aliens
+Nordivision lol
I must be thick as fuck, I honestly didn't think twice about the ghost bit at the start, just thought it was a kid being a kid
Same.
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Sames. I don't believe him though. He says he knew the ghost will be Matthew, but how?!I mean COME ON! Are we really buying this?
why not, if you watch enough movies, and if you know some fundamentals about wormholes and dimensions you can kind of guess it. When i first watch it i already guessing it could be matthew himself cause i am thinking time travel or some form or dimensions stuff are gonna be in this movie.
TheEquilibrum007 well for example I went into the movie not knowing it was about wormholes therefore I was like confused with the ghost part, however if I was told anything prior to watching the movie it would have been a dead giveaway, not Chris nolans fault because he marketed the movie great and hid that aspect of the movie but still easily recognizable by anyone who has studied wormholes & dimensional travel especially when the movie is about space travel
Honestly I don't see how the ghost was "in your face foreshadowing", or "obvious". Going into this movie knowing nothing about it, idk how anyone could just assume the ghost was Cooper...
***** Yeah, personally, I knew the ghost was not "magic", because it's not this kind of movie. BUT I didn't know it was Cooper, because I though it was Murphy's mom. Because the "once you're a parent, you're the ghost of you children's future" thing. That sentence was told to Cooper by his wife, so I thought she was the ghost
Liam McCarthy Bro I had noooooo idea whatsoever he was the ghost
I literally ignore the ghost part and when it came back in the end i was surprised and impressed at the same time
It was extremely obvious... because in a movie about space and time, a person who has an average understanding of how storytelling works would be able to assume that the “ghost” had nothing to do with spirits but instead with space and time (the themes of the movie). And as soon as you see the “ghost” leave a message that says “Stay” that is when a lot of people were able to draw the conclusion that it is Matthew McConaughey’s character from a different space and time.
Clorox Bleach but when you first watch the movie how are you to expect that that’s even possible. Most people go into this movie thinking it’s going to be about space exploration. No one is thinking future cooper is going to communicate through time using gravity.
+JeremyJahns, I like your reviews, but yes, you didn't understand half the things in this movie. Let's talk about them:
1 - Tidal waves in the first planet:
How much our moon influences our oceans? A LOT. Now think about a planet orbiting a black hole. That's it. Those waves were caused by massive gravitational distortions that comes from the black hole. Why they didn't predicted that? Time displacement.
2 - He only docks with the Endurance due to the robots aid in the control of the ship.
3 - What changed Dr. Brand POV was her "handshake" with Cooper, well, she thought it was the "aliens". Also this concept of love is subjective, we are talking about other existences, 5th dimension existence, those beings, human evolution or not, see time as ordinary element of space, as part of their existence, in fact for them time is not linear, there is no now or then, before or after.
4 - If the wormhole was closer to Earth it's gravitational pull would take the moon out of orbit or worse effects. So yes, close to Saturn that is a giant planet with gravity enough to live with the black hole close by.
5 - The Aliens were mankind it self in my opinion, that's why they can't interfere to much, time paradox, like prime directive from Star Trek.
6 - The funny things is, there is no romance in this movie, maybe, just maybe something between Cooper and Dr. Brand, but nothing on focus, and I found that amazing.
7 - The thing is, as Europe, the moon of Jupiter, we could have a cold planet with a underground area worm enough to sustain life. Remember, Dr. Man faked data about it to attract their attention.
8 - NASA never lost funding, they just kept it top secret, not only to hide the apocalyptical scenario, but because as Dr. Brand(the old dude) said, is hard to justify funding to space exploration when people is starving.
9 - Robots would have trouble improvising to situations, remember even TARS states that. This is explained many times through the movie, from their arrival on NASA, to the sling shot around the black hole.
10 - They sent one scientist with one robot to each planet on that system to assertain it's situation. The problem is, no data was ever sent properly back to earth, that's why they sent a full crew this time, and also comes with Plan B on board(population bomb).
I hope you see my post not because I want to point fingers in you or shit, I like your reviews, your attitude, but in this movie you didn't get many things... and... the greatest problem of this movie was the ambition to require people to know basics of Relativity Theory and Quantum Mechanics. The Quantum Mechanics part is were most people lost it.
Lets just add another one to the list.
I saw Interstellar again, and they show a sun on the other side of the wormhole, so yeah, there is a sun in the 'new' system.
jeremy just didn't connect to this film on a emotional level. I don't know why but I gathered Jeremy just doesn't believe in love ( even a parent child love) and considering love was the central theme of the story then it all falls apart for him. once his core emotional being can't connect, that will distort his perception of the film and once that happens it is not appealing any more so he goes on to nit pick things that are to be honest rather silly. at the end of the day Jeremy is a film nerd and I reckon he has never been a father or anything or loved something deeply so he can't connect to the central premise of the film. he needs to grow up a little bit more to understand the film lol
graviton9191
yeah, too bad nolan also doesn't know what emotions are. he thinks they're monologues, plotdumps or philosophies. somebody give him a dictionary.
This... this right here is truth. Good comment.
The 5th dimension beings were still assholes though. And the movie assuming they were human felt so arrogant. It would have been way better to just leave the question unanswered. And the way love is shown as a quantifiable dimension felt both stupid and weird in my opinion; it was still a cool idea but executed poorly. And they *could* have sent robots instead of humans but unlike Jeremy I didn't have issues with that. What about the fact that Dr Brand Senior was able to fake his calculations for so many years with Murphy beside him ? I had real trouble believing that. Back the 5D guys again : why contact the humans now (at the time of the movie)? why so few clues about what is ahead of them in the new system ? Like Jeremy said why not just hand them what they need to control gravity ? And don't say they cant interfere with our species too much since they basically changed the future of humanity already; so I think they're kinda beyond altering anything.
The movie may be very well thought through in terms of scientific background, and it is visually one of my fav of the year but the story wasn't that great.
Who came here to find that “Maybe you don’t know as much as you think you know” comment??
literally me right now
@@MrCodeman2036 And me
I came to comment the same thing but I see my work is already done here
lol I did
There are over 5,000 comments. Why we are looking for a comment that Jeremy literally quoted is beyond me 😂
The reason those waves were so big was because of the intense gravity. The wave wasn't coming towards them, the planet was rotating into the wave
yes!! thank you!!!
+Sasha Bakhshi those three planets in real life would be torn up by the black hole so I don't think he knows physics either brah
+RandomPerson22: Nope. They wouldnt be torn up by the black hole. They are still in orbit around the black hole. It would take thousands of years or probably millions, for those planets to end up near the Even Horizon of the black hole. Only when they reach the Even Horizon, the planets will be torn apart.
RandomPerson22 blackhole can't eat whole planet in the minutes it might take millions of years.
That makes 0 sense
so basically if you didn't guess that cooper was the "ghost" like me, then you'll really really enjoy movie which I think most people who watched it did
I have to agree. I didn't think it was him rofl
+DiegoBQZ - Neodanger same as me
translation: look how smart I am. I didn't enjoy it as much because I am just too smart and predicted everything. lol dude, shut the hell up.
+TesfayeTastic You did not get any of what he said. Watch past minute 2 please.
+TesfayeTastic Well, I guessed that "Stay" was message from coop, but I still ridiculously love the MOVIE! 9/10
Older Murphy's reason for telling Cooper to go was because 'no parent should have to watch their child die'.
And Cooper's reason for wanting to see his daughter was to make peace with her. His son had already accepted him for leaving, but Murphy had not. When Murphy finally sees him again she's already made peace with the reason he had to leave, prior to that she thought he had left her there to die.
As far as going back for Brand, Cooper just wanted to save her from the same fate as Mann. Especially considering the fact that Plan B wasn't necessary anymore. Brand's explanation on love (which was kind of clunky dialogue-wise) wasn't meant to change her character, it was her reasoning between choosing which of the two planets they still had the fuel to visit. Her argument was that neither her nor Cooper were unbiased in their decision. Cooper wan't to visit Mann's planet because it was closer and thus allowed for a return trip back to Earth. Brand's explanation was that Edmunds' planet was further away from the effects of the black hole and therefore held a greater chance for sustaining life.
This guy gets it.
Under normal circumstances sure. But the guy went through a bell of a lot to get back to her. To send him away in her last moments is well cold, un loving and just wrong.
Harriscandoit Have you ever had a death in your family? Ive never seen anyone die but I've seen some buried. You'd rather have your father or mother *watch you die* than making piece with them and sparing them that horrible sight? Seriously?
More then you can ever imagine. Yes under the circumstances of the movie it would make sense for the personality of the characters and the script.
For him to stay with her till the end.
Pretty sure his son was dead at the time when he came back. ... Since he was older than her.
Plus murph went to cryo sleep for 2 years
and the whole damaged lungs thing.
Nice video but here are some....interesting things to take into consideration:
1) There is a video where Neil deGrasse Tyson talks about Interstellar and says that the planet that has the water on it did make sense because the entire planet was one huge wave. They were not like tidal waves or anything. So it is plausible.
2) When you asked how how NASA got funding, in the movie they hint that the tax money is not going to colleges. It happens when Coop went to the school at the beginning of the movie. It was funded secretly.
3) The movie is very highly based on science. One of the producers was a physicist and there were several journals published about the science in the movie. You said how they say love is quantifiable but they also say that gravity can move across dimensions. That is why in the 5th distention he used gravity to communicate with Murph. They say love because that is some of the liberty that the movie takes. You cannot make a movie entirely around science or people will not get drawn into it as much. :)
Remember, its a *sci-fy* movie. Not a scientific movie.
LOL my bad. You know what I mean.
Chris Griffin um... yeah Sci-fi still has real or strong theoretical science woven into it.
maxwell Honack still a sci-fi movie :P.
Chris Griffin Yeah but you seem to not realize that the Sci us short for science. and yes its fiction but many sci-fi's have become science fact. a good Sci-fi has to implement some real science into it to be believable.
The water wasn't gonna be 3 feet deep if it weren't for the black hole,, the water is 3 feet deep because it all collected in the wave -o-
Glad someone said it.
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While this is true the wave is still way way too steep. In reality it would not at all manifest as a liquid wall like the one we see in the movie. Size of the black hole and the distance to the planet means the gravitational pull on the ocean would have been much more spread out. Water is really heavy, the gravitational pull required to make a waterwall like the one in the movie would be so strong that the humans on the surface would be pulled straight up in the air
Erodict that's not how waves work, that's how tides work.
Morpheus_00
In his defense it was a tidal wave (not to be confused with tsunamis, which are sometimes incorrectly refereed to as tidal waves)
One thing that really bothered me about the ending is that it's completely illogical how they treat Cooper when they find him. He's the father of the woman that supposedly saved the human race, he's over 120 years old AND he survived a virtually impossible mission. They know who he is. One person mentions that he wrote a thesis about his life. Shouldn't they treat him like a God or something? No interview? No golden medal? No personal visit from the commander in chief of the space station? Instead they're like: 'Here's your house and your robot... have fun!'. Even his grandchildren don't seem remotely interested in him.
He then manages to steal a spaceship and fly off unnoticed, like if it were some kind of car jacking.
Yeah wtf, there should be some kind of high security there. Also why to steal it?? he could just ask for it saying ''hey i'm a fucking pilot and i want to test this shit'' and just go away.
Ismael HDalyth
Or he could've asked his daughter to send out the message that he should be granted the permission to leave.
You think they would, but when you think about real life hero's you start to realize that it just doesn't happen that way. Even when it comes to something as intense as saving the world. The best one might get is a statue and down the line that statue becomes nothing more than a random decoration to the people who pass it by, and a place for birds to leave their droppings. It's sad really.
Yeah, some character explained that his grandchildren wouldn't believe he is their grandfather, but all the other characters believed he was 120 years old. What? Why? And why can he just steal a future spaceship? Are they fitted with Playstation controllers? Why does he need to steal a spaceship anyway?
John L I think Murph herself mentioned that nobody believed that it was her father all along who sent her the messages to complete the formula. When Cooper wakes up, the people at the hospital know right away who he is, but they still treat him like a regular patient. Even if he hadn't completed the formula to save humanity, he was part of that exploration and has seen lot's of things the earthlings need to know. He's still a higly important person.
I think it would've worked in the movie's advantage if somehow nobody knew who he was, except for Murph.
Spoiler:
It seems like I'm the only one that didn't predict Cooper becoming the ghost. I know this shouldn't, but this hurts me because it makes me feel like I'm stupid for loving this movie when I didn't see something coming that, apparently, a lot of other people saw coming. I know that it's my opinion, and I should be grateful that I loved Interstellar, but when I'm watching reviews like this and people talk about the negatives towards something I liked, it upsets me to see something that I found so influential get torn to pieces. While this video was really difficult for me to get through, I'm still glad you at least said you enjoyed it.
You are not alone, it blew my mind. Maybe I just don't think much when I watch movies but it certainly turned out to be a nice surprise for me. Though, if others found it so apparent I can see why it was disappointing for them.
HaterWannaBeMeJr Yeah, I try not to think much, or predict anything when I'm watching a movie (I'm a film student, so that's saying something). I just love to let a story speak for itself, instead of me speaking to itself and being critical about it.
Don't sweat it. I didn't pick up on it either. It made for a nice surprise, though.
I totally agree, I loved the movie, it really made me question our world and our galaxy and I really felt for the characters
I agree with you. I had no idea Cooper was the "ghost".
I feel kinda stupid for saying this and I'll probably get a lot of flak for it....but I thought the "ghost" in Murphy's room was gonna be an Alien...like when she said it was trying to communicate. Yeah...
Many people thought that too. The fact that it wasn't, made a lot of people not like the movie.
TheVideoInvader Yeah, gotta say it made me like the movie more. I know I'm gonna be called a Nolan fanboy, but I really liked this movie. It makes you think. I'm normally not big on Matthew McConaughey, but *SPOILERS* I thought his performace, especially when he was watching his son's messages was incredibly moving.
***** Never be afraid of being called a fanboy. You love what you love. Agree, McConaughey's performance was incredible.
***** The movie got very preachy towards the end with that whole "humans can do anything!" mentality.
J. O.V. I'm not gonna pretend it doesn't have it's flaws, every film does. I definitely agree with you on that.
Okay, _how in the actual heck_ do you get "Dad, stop knocking over books and using gravity to manipulate sand falling from the fifth dimension" from "Dad, there's a ghost in my room" without having known _a lot_ about the film beforehand?
Sometimes things just click in people's heads. It's a Nolan film. People know there's going to be some kind of twist or reveal big reveal or some sort of mind-fuck, so they look for it. I saw it coming too.
OfArgento But how do people know it's going to have to do with dimensions and how did they know it was going to be Cooper without a bit of prior knowledge?
Extended Trailer Music I don't think people could see all of the extra dimensional stuff coming, but I don't think was too much of a stretch to realize Cooper would end up being the "ghost". There was also some foreshadowing. Cooper's daughter said that there was a ghost in her room. Then later on, when Cooper was talking to Michael Cane's character, he said something like "Once you're a parent, you're the ghost of your child's future."
OfArgento Well yes, the "Once you're a parent, you're the ghost of your child's future." was pretty clear, but the initial sequence at the beginning of the movie, no way. We hardly knew anything about the "ghost", so how could he have possiby realized it was Cooper?
Extended Trailer Music Like I said, people look for it because they know Nolan by now. Everything is significant. Right when the little girl said something about a ghost, I knew that it was either going to be Cooper or it would be something to do with God. But, I knew Nolan never puts religion into his movies, so that only left one other option.
There was some viable shit that you mentioned, Jeremy, but a lot of your complaints result from your nit-picking and your lack of understanding.
Now I disagree with you on your opinion of this movie, and its not simply the fact that you had your own opinion, it was that your opinions were based on a shaky background and understanding of the movie.
I shall deconstruct this video response now:
1. Nice job calling that the "ghost" was Cooper, nice call there, nothing to hate. But i really doubt you could have guessed how he did it. If you did, then you are truly a genius.
2. The giant waves, are a result of gravity, and since you have TONS of gravity, well, it results in a large wave despite the water level. If you look in your comments section, 60% of the comments, accurately and scientifically explain to a high degree how the waves were possible. And also, arguing with the waves problem, is actually (I'm really sorry to say), stupid of you because a large portion of the scientific aspects of this movie, was based on the intelligence of a Cal Tech professor, Kip Thorne, who, knows a lot more then me or you.
3. Your pitstop complaint is illogical. They went down to see if the planet was habitable and the fact that the lady who was there was transmitting to them, enticed them to check out the planet. She made a miscalculation, the lady probably didn't realize their were waves, until, well she died. And once Cooper and friends realized that their were waves, they got the fuck out. What did you think would, happen? They realized the planet was uninhabitable, so they left. End of story.
4. Guess what Jeremy, preferences exist in this world. There are some people who love some people more than others even in the realm of children. Also, when he left his daughter, she must have been closer and much more emotionally attached to him and vice versa. The son was nearly independent and probably didn't have an emotional reliance or bond as great as his sisters.
5. Your Dr. Mann talk, really wasn't a complaint. You just seemed to not like the fact that Dr. Mann represented man, and the fact that it was obvious was a turn-off for you. If that was a negative, then you are a picky mother fucker. Now, as Mann is a man, his actions were justifiable. He was crazy, emotionally distraught, and ashamed of his actions, yet he believes they were all justifiable. You might have thought, oh, why wouldn't he just talk it out with Cooper. The reason being is credibility and legacy, human concerns. Would you want to be written down in history as liar and a coward, after being praised as a courageous and brave leader. The answer is fucking no. Couple that with mental instability, he believed, that he alone, could save humanity by implementing Plan B. Since Cooper and friends were very hesitant and firmly believed in trying for Plan A, and since he was about to be caught as a cowardly liar, he took action, tried to kill Cooper, and escape, implementing Plan B, and saving humanity. Mann, represents how flawed man is, and represents good, through his courageous intents, and the bad, through selfishness and cowardliness. Also, he is not innately evil, as a he tries to comfort Cooper and cannot watch him die. Crazy, probably, evil, no.
6. Now, here is a big complaint. You believe that the characterization of Hathaway was ruined by the love aspect of the movie. How about this Jeremy, ever consider multidimensional personalities? This is not a one-dimensional character. She is a woman of science and highly regards the importance of the mission and realizes the stakes and weight she has to bare. But, like most humans, she loves someone, and that someone happened to be on a planet they would potentially go on. She didn't throw away the mission or anything, she used her bias, and the excuse of love, to go to the other planet, which was equally as viable, the only difference was that it wasn't transmitting, which isn't necessarily a dead giveaway that one planet is better then the other, it was just what they were banking off of to make decisions. Now, another reason, she took the love excuse, is because her emotions were locked in. Now, someone down in the comments made a nice comment, mentioning how when she received messages from her dad, they were about science, intelligence, education, and poems. They weren't heartfelt messages with emotional meanings, they were simplistic updates. Given her scientific upbringing, lack of emotional fulfillment , and need for love, she wanted to go to the boyfriend planet. She was feeling emotionally unfulfilled with her father, and so when she had the opportunity to see her boyfriend, she jumped on it. It showed, that she, as human is flawed, and that she has a multidimensional personality. She can be hard and scientific if she needs to be, but it doesn't define her, she has a needy emotional side to her as well. Bad personality call Jeremy.
7. Now, the worm hole thing, is fairly simple, any closer to Earth, and it would've fucked it up.
8. You explained it yourself, with the 2d to 3d world comparison, they couldn't communicate with us due to their existence being in 5 dimensions.
9. The reason "they," who are actually futuristic human beings, chose Cooper, is because he has an attachment, that attachment being love, with someone who is a fucking genius at home, who would be able to translate morse fucking code into a scientific equation. Keep in mind, these future humans, already fucking know exactly how this would happen, cause it happened to them, so they set it up the same way it happened to them, with a few tweaks for originality along the way, since time is a loop. Meaning the fact that the wormhole appeared in the first place, was a tell tale sign that Cooper and Murph would succeed.
10. Yeah, love is quantifiable, it transcends space and time. If you had a dog, and it died, would you still love that dog? If you had heart, a soul, and loved that dog in the first place, then your answer would be yes. And I don't think the goal of the movie was to say that love is the reason why Cooper communicates with Murph, but rather that love,transcends space and time, and therefore can be the reason or driving force, for doing anything. Had there been no love or connection between Murph and Cooper, Cooper wouldn't have been able to do half the things he did, since he wouldn't have a reason for doing it otherwise. The beings chose Cooper because of his love for his daughter, which drove him to go on the mission in the first place. And, due to his connection with his daughter, he was able to get the message across. He technically, if the beings wanted him too, get the message (black hole data BTW) across to anybody else, but his daughter was implied to be a genius, and since they had a love connection, the urge to send the message and save humanity, and jump into that black hole were all there. So, the fact that love transcends time wasn't the reason why he could connect with Murph, but it was the reason that he did everything in the first place, including all the events leading up to that dive into the black hole.
11. Now the reason it was done in black hole, is because that is a place, where it would be possible to control five dimensions, because we don't know what the fuck is in, or can happen in a black hole. And due to that fact, we can assume using fiction that you can control five dimensions in black hole. Those dimensions being height, width, depth, time, and gravity.
12. The part where you talk about him being alive with his dying daughter is all nit picking, and nothing else. I mean, it had been so many years that maybe her love for him wasn't as strong and that her current family meant everything. It may have not been satisfying for him, but he met her, and saw the successful women that she was. It was a good satisfying ending seeing those two together.
13. The part about Hathaway is that she is stuck on that planet, and doesn't know that everything succeeded so he wants to bring her back. Also, since she crossed the event horizon, a crap ton of time must have also passed, so her being alive many years later is viable.
14. To answer your question about heating the planets via the black hole, the answer is yes. It can happen but it is very rare. And also, if you were wondering, as soon as they exited the wormhole, there was a star, so...yeah.
15. Actually your complaint about viewing the planets as hospitable from looking at it is true, but you need extensive instruments, and need to chemically brake down the planet with a high powered telescope and direct access to that telescope. They saw the fresh water, on the first planet, but couldn't detect the waves due to relativity. You wouldn't detect the waves from space, without a satellite or something. The second planet was presumed habitable due to false data by Dr. Mann and we have no idea about the third planet. This is your best complaint. If somebody can address this issue, then it would be appreciated.
16. NASA was also being funded, just in secret.
17. TARS said that AI's could not program improvisation or instinct. And regarding Coopers mission, since Plan B was technically the only plan, it would be immoral, wrong, and not right to have children raised by robots.
So, here you go, you opinion was fine, but flawed. I can understand if this isn't your favorite movie of the year or whatever, but it deserves to be in anybodies Top 10. It would be embarrassing to look back at this year and not commemorate this movie. And seriously, if you think Guardians of the Galaxy, a decent but comically laughable, emotionally lacking, thematically dry, cliched in terms of characters and dramatically laughable (no seriously, when they were holding hands, when Chris Pratt grabbed that stone, and all started to scream, I started laughing embarrassingly hard) movie is better then Interstellar, then reevaluate how your mind works.
Dude i liked the film but i guessed right from the beginning that it will be like that. I told my gf right after i heared "the ghost in my room" that it will be him or them because they will get to the black hole(thats what we know from the trailers) and maybe will get to another level of being a human or something. This was SO obvious that wasn't funny.
TheMrNomus see i and many people never thought of that because we couldn't have perceived the film would take in that direction base on the things we were hearing about it.
TheMrNomus I didn't watch the trailer so I guess that's why I didn't predict it. :/
TheMrNomus that's good for you. And I'm not saying this movie is flawless, no movie is, (even by beloved LOTR), and if you knew that he was going to communicate inside of a black hole, then you have good analysis skills my friend. What is obvious for some, isn't for others. It was in the back of my mind, that it might have been him, but I also thought that it possibly could have been an alien race that witnessed the destruction of mankind and felt some sort of moral ambiguity. I had a lot of theories in my head, but I didn't narrow it exactly down to that. It wasn't necessarily a fantastic plot twist, but in my opinion it was still interesting to see, and having that thought in the back of my mind, didn't detract from the entirety of the movie for me. If it did for you, then that sucks bro.
***** Dude, Khairul, you are the only other person I have met with the same last name as me. Thats cool. And yes, if you remove that part of the movie, in plot terms it would have meant nothing but showing relativity. But in terms of character, well, one was killed, which alters the plot, and also, it shows how flawed of a character Dr. Brand or whatever is. The only cringeworthy moment in the movie for me, is when she runs for the data instead of getting back in the ship, when CLEARLY the planet was uninhabitable, but in reality, it wasn't necessarily for the missions sake she went after that data, but in truth, it was because she felt morally obliged to gather research of her dead compatriot, honoring her. This moral/scientific thematic struggle can be seen later, when she talks about love. So yes, even though plot wise, there was little purpose, this scene killed a character, and shows us the character traits of one of the main characters. Giving it importance and relativity (pun intended). Could this have been done a different way, sure? Was it the best way to explore, Hathaways character? Probably not. But delving into that would be nitpicking.
I didn't find it obvious that Mcconaughey was the ghost. It actually surprised me.
Me too. Thought it was her dead mother
same here i thought she was bullshit there was no ghost i thought it was a little kid thing
Agreed. I didn't know it was him until - it was obvious.
I knew from the moment they mentioned a "ghost"
as soon as they said ghost it became common sense to know that cooper was the ghost
I thought the water was 3ft deep because of the size of the wave. Like when the water on the beach starts going back because of a tsunami...
That wave is literally impossible
@@danobra No actually not. The gravitational pull from Gargantua could easily influence the water in that way. That is actually possible.
Davi Braid absolutely anything is possible in space, just cos it’s not here doesn’t mean it’s not in a massive galaxy
The tidal waves were caused by the tidal forces from the black hole. Kinda like the moon affecting tides on earth
@@danobra Gargantua was closer to Miller's planet than the Moon is to Earth. The gravitational pull was so immense that the waves being so huge made perfect sense... That's why those waves were that high... Did you think Nolan did that just because it would look good or something?
I didn't think that at all! The foreshadowing (in my opinion) was very clever.
it was clever but the wey i figured it out was by asking myslef what the point of this bloody stupid ghost in a sci-fi?! and then when the movie said there was a black hole i was like oookey... bootstrap paradox it is!
I didn’t expect it while watching but when it was revealed I was like oh Yh that was kinda obvious
Idk I thought it was pretty fuckin obvious with the whole time dilation thing especially when he was holding hands with brand
ok jeremy hold up dude. The ghost could have been an alien. For most of the movie they sell that idea. I never thought that the being that planned all of that could be humans, that is just you being you, but it could have been aliens easily and i thought that for most of the movie.
But most importantly, the ending. Murph very clearly says "no father should see their children die" and Coop agrees with that. He saw her one last time, and after all they went through, to me its like maturing and finally letting go. Its done, the mission is over and the sacrifices have been made. They cannot change that, and to see her die would be the last drop i believe. Its not a happy ending, its a terrible situation and they deal with it the best way they can, and that was very intense to me, that after all Coop went through, after all the hurt of knowing what was happening with her daughter, he still cant be with her, she is gone, lost in time. Its a sad ending, dude
also wikipedia says it was co written by a physicist, and that most of the science is accurate, except for the frozen clouds. So we cant really talk about science in this movie unless we are experts. We just have to asume most, if not all of it, is possible in theory
ALSO ALSO about the funding, come on dude, they obviously dont use money any more, you are just being dumb there >_> they work in their respective lines and that's it, they dont get paid. The world is almost over, you think they will waste time producing money. They live in a socialist community, were people in charge (like the school principle) tells kids what their jobs will be for life, money is not a factor here
This is duckin G hallatious and no i dont think you are a piece of shit, im jsut saying you are being close minded in some aspects :P especially the funding aspect
***** uhh neil degrass tyson said the movie was scientifically accurate
***** actually, it didnt, you just made that up
Also I thought the ghost might have been aliens, so I was actually surprised when I found out it was Cooper. I didn't find it predictable, which probably makes me an idiot, but whatever!
that doesn't make you an idiot. Some people just like to show off how smart they are.
Not even how smart they are, most people will just lie and show off how smart they aren't.
This movie was made to be unpredictable. A lot of its viewers didn't get that ghost issue figured out. Most people would had just guess and got it right and acted like they knew it all along, which is b.s. So you are all good, Patrick Ward.
Just came back from this move. was amazing. i also thougtht it was aliens, didn't see it coming.
I was on a more, "I suspect it may be him buuuut" kind of page. I mean sure its easy to guess that, but even knowing that should not change the end. I mean even if you knew he was the ghost...you could figure out he was actually behind the bookcase and thats why the book fell...haha unlikely. Or what about the "handshake" Anne Hathaway got, I thought they did a good job at diverting the audiences pre-conceived theories. Knowing, is only half the battle.
people always criticize movies for not being perfect, but I have never seen a perfect movie.
Schindler's List
+TFO the lord of the rings trilogy.
+seriouslyfuckutube lol good one
+seriouslyfuckutube they suck
seriouslyfuckutube at least i dont like my own comments :/
TO THE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE WATER PLANET, ITS A TIDAL WAVE NEAR A BLACK HOLE. YOU EXPECT IT TO BE SMALL?
Tell'em
THEY DONT UNDERSTAND TIDAL WAVES, THEY ARENT EVEN WAVES, THEYRE JUST CURRENTS BECAUSE THE GRAVITY IS SO STRONG
Shhhh! You're waking the baby...
+iPadVulk Idk why, but I lmao at ur comment
Rotten tomatoes gave this a 73%, but the audience gave it an 88%, IMDB (which i dearly hate but for some reason this time got it) gave it a 9.5. This movie is spectacular, but also quite confusing, and apparently confusing to the point where the rating has to drastically go down, to people complaining, stop looking at other critique reviews and basing it off of that shit, and if you understood the movie, good on you, but don't just butcher it because you didn't relate or understand it, this is a brilliant sci-fi and was NOT a let down, and haters can go die in a hole.
A big, dark, fucking, black hole.
Haters can go die in a hole? But you're saying they should go die for having a different opinion? Makes you wonder who the real hater is.
go look up the score on moviecritic and report back to me with that as well u funny little fucker
This movie is dumb
Oh look a hater hating other haters.
fromia1 I don't see what's wrong with that. A person who hates something else in the first place rightly deserves, in my moral opinion, an equal amount of hate, as it gives them first hand experience of what it's like to be on the receiving end of such jackass remarks.
I have my own idea on what they meant by "love being able to affect all dimensions", they meant that the emotional power love gives to the characters in this movie allows them to completely change the way mankind understands reality, rather than it being a force itself they make it an impulse for humanity to make things happen, the love from mcconaughey towards his daughter, for example, impulsed him to give her the information at all costs to the point where he nearly dies trying to do so.
That's what I thought to. After all it wasn't literally love that saved humanity, it was the fifth dimensional beings and Cooper's determination (along with his daughter). I don't understand these complaints about how love is shown in the movie. I agree with you that, what I got from it was that love is powerful because of what it can motivate humans to accomplish.
***** Exactly, i personally find it an amazing view of love and i hope i see similar ones in the future
***** yeah jeremy and so many others fail to understand that. Its not "the power of love" what created the tesseract, it was, as cooper said, five dimensional creatures (probably evolved humans) and his love only forced him to make the journey and jump inside a fracking black hole. It was hope all along, nothing else
I am sorry Jeremy but you needed to watch the movie again before the spoiler talk. Some of the stuff you are questioning were explained in the movie and some of the science stuff are clearly beyond your understanding. The NASA funding stuff were taken out of taxes and there is a scene with Cooper complaining about where their tax money goes. The stuff about how hospitable or hostile the planets they explored was, they had Kipp Thorne as an executive producer so things like the waves and hostile to life would a planet be were pretty well studied.
and also the movie is one giant plot hole of a bootstrap (predestination) paradox... great movie if can ignore the paradox tbh
you just dont understand either, there is not paradoz, heres a lot of ways to explain what happened
William Ocoró I think I understand the movie perfectly and it is a bootstrap paradox start to finish. It's called a paradox becuase it's a constant loop. Watch Vsauce3 and their video about the paradoxes to understand it better becuase you are talking about something you know nothing about, Jon Snow.
Bobby o.o
you are right sir.
Bobby o.o
and i do know whats a boostrap paradox my answer was not for you. so you read nothing Bob snow
I'm very confused on how he guessed the enxing of the moview. the reveal of him being the ghost was not at all obvious
It was pretty obvious. Me and my friend, we looked at eachother during that Library scene & we were like "That's Mathew Over There Somehow".
Exactly it wasn't obvious at all... could have been a ghost or aliens...the movie never markets itself as a time travel movie either and at that point in the movie, the relativity of time had not even been mentioned.
10 movies in 2014 are better than interstellar!???.... Wow..he's talking out of his ass now
Its HIS opinion, just like you have yours, jeez the stock some of you put in products that have NO meaning to your reality is ridiculous.
***** How long have you watched Jeremy Jahns? I've been watching him for years and if you actually watched his videos, then you would know he would NEVER do anything like that. Just because he didn't ABSOLUTELY LOVE the movie, doesn't mean he didn't like it. In fact, he said he did. And there are many many great films this year. Nightcrawler, Birdman, Guardians of the Galaxy, HTTYD2, Captain America 2, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, XMen, Edge of Tomorrow, Whiplash, John Wick, Gone Girl, Chef, Under the Skin, Locke, Grand Budapest Hotel, LEGO, Boyhood, The Raid 2, and we still have 2 months of movies. So Interstellar not being in someone's Top 10, is very probable.
Agreed. I think he got a little butt hurt because people are calling him out on previous reviews of crappy movies which he has given better ratings. He should really think a little longer before releasing these reviews. He is not a reliable source for me anymore.
TheSaucySauce Crappy movies by what definition? any reviewer is just giving their opinion not a factual statement. The hypocrisy is amazing from some of you
roidjones Agreed, in Jeremy's opinion those movies were great, in others they weren't. In Nolan Fanboys opinions this movie was incredible, I loved this movie its honestly one of my favorite movies I've ever seen, not cause it's a Nolan movie, yeah its flawed and has problems but damn was it a fun movie to watch, it was beautifully made, the acting was top notch, the score was great, I loved this movie! Has there been better movies out this year? Yes, Gone Girl was a great film when you're looking at a solid movie, Nightcrawler was very well made, etc.
I myself wouldn't put Captain America or How to Train Your Dragon 2 as best movies of the year (because they weren't in my opinion). But everybody is entitled to their own opinions, you shouldn't base your opinion on what others think, base it on what you think.
I loved Interstellar, Jeremy enjoyed it. End of story. He's allowed an opinion.
I'm really disappointed by Jeremy first the meltdowm on twitter and now this so call review and which is basically a rant. I always thought he was a cool dude but that arrogance he'is showing really threw me off.You pretty much judge movie on a daily basis yet you get so offended when a group of fan who actually like your channel dare to say that you didn't fully understand the movie.your pretty much sitting and pretending to know more in science than Kip Thorne smh. Humble down dude hope you just had a few bad or something.
This isn't a review its a spoiler talk
You are wrong. Kip Thorne not only provided the equations for the black hole but also acted as a science advisor to the film and a producer. In one interview it is mentioned that Kip Thorne had to persuade Christopher Nolan to stir away from his original idea which was to make the crew travel faster than the speed of light. It took him 2 weeks to make Nolan change that idea in to something more scientifically plausible. Almost all of the science in this film is plausible ESPECIALLY the science and theories we have a better understanding such as gravity,relativity , space curvature are all depicted to a very realistic margin in the movie. Some of the science regarding habitable planets around a black hole and wormholes isn't proven but it is possible, it hasn't been observed, so at the very least you are given the benefit of the doubt. The whole movie has very few scientific flaws and to begin non of the ones Jeremy actually stated are true. Some of the things in the movie are fictional, for example the ice clouds and there is a lot of fiction in regards to the ending, however that doesn't rule out the idea of a 5th dimension or time travel, manipulating the strings of space and time (string theory) or harvesting the power of gravity and many other things involved in that ending. After all the film is allowed to have some fiction in it and that's what's great about it. It not only portrays the things we understand very accurately but it also opens our imagination to the possibilities out there in the universe which is where the fiction kicks in.
TL;DR The film holds up scientifically almost flawlessly on the theory and science we understand. The film has a lot of fictional elements that are build upon some of the theories we currently have which is fine, this does not to be scientifically explained and can't be. We can't tell what's at the singularity at a black hole because we don't know, we can't tell what the 5th dimension looks like, the film illustrates a depiction of what it might look like and that's perfectly fine and at the current point in time there is no scientifically accurate way to do that.
Could you please link me any advertisement where this movie said it is 100% scientifically correct ? Any at all.
Traveling faster than the speed of light is not possible in our current understanding of the universe. Taking a shortcut trough a wormhole isn't traveling faster than the speed of light in the sense that your speed won't be actually faster than a photon but it would take you less time to travel to a place in space because you are actually traveling a lesser length, however you are still not exceeding the speed of light.
Funny enough I was just replying to your question about the black hole on another comment.
For all we know, there is a theoretical possibility that a planet may rotate around a super massive black hole in a habitable zone. Can that same planet be as close to the black hole in order for such a big time dialation to occur and liquid water to sustain ? Probably not . Does that mean we can't give the movie the benefit of the doubt ?
I'm not sure where you got the part that the black hole was of 100 million solar masses as this was never mentioned in the movie. If you can provide a video of it , a manuscript or anything that would be grant (this is from another comment)
I'll add to that, where did you get the figure even supposedly as you put it that they are at about a 2 million km distance as they never ever mentioned that in the film as well.
See this is three times you are assuming stuff that isn't mentioned anywhere to my knowledge but anyway let's move on.
The spaceship never enters the event horizon or the acceleration disk for that matter as the idea for them is to do a sling shot past the black hole which doesn't require them to enter the disk or the event horizon. The only thing that enters the disk and the singularity is Matthew and Tars in their own vessels. For the rest of the stuff like the spaceship getting in close proximity you can always assume that their spaceship from the future was suited for such an environment in a way and that they are at a safe distance to make the gravitational sling shot to the other planet.
So the only actual problem you have in your comment is Matthew and Tars entering the disk and black hole it self. Now to no surprise this is the part of the movie where fiction comes in to play. I can't explain what happens when and if someone enters a black hole and it's singularity. We can only theorise about that and that's what the movie does. No one knows what happens at the singularity of a black holes or what it is. It's like me creating a movie where we go back in time before the big bang and then I propose to you a solution to what happened before it and you being unhappy about that solution because it isn't proven in real life. Well buddy, it's a movie, i can't prove it, it's just my story ,that's why it's fiction.
The whole part with the 5th dimension onwards is fiction, nothing from that point onward is real,proven or scientific, it hints and ties itself to certain theories but that's it. How he got there, it's explained. Humans have mastered the power of gravity and so they are able to manipulate space-time. In the movie the black hole and the singularity act as a large source of gravity which is where the 5h dimensional human beings come in to play. Matthew is able to survive the disk and him falling trough the event horizon because he was 'saved' by these beings who are able to control gravity and god knows what. I think this was explained pretty clearly in the film and it's enough for you to understand how he isn't harmed, where is he, how he got there and how he later emerges from the black hole, again - fiction. Nothing can escape a black hole to our understanding, except something can, it's called Hawking Radiation, the black hole emits radiation over large quantities of time and because modern day humans haven't mastered the powers of gravity and haven't tied gravity to quantum mechanics the very fact that in the movie the 5th dimensional beings have can leave you with the simple assumption that yes it is possible, in the movie. These things do not need an explanation in real life as they are fiction and simply can not be explained. But they were nicely explained for the plot. They can't be explained because in the movie hypothetically set in the future humans have delved in to the universe and understand it to a level we dont, so even if all this was real and it was possible for all this, let's just assume that for a second, the explanaiton that will be provided for it would seem as non-sensical to us as the fiction that it is being explained to us by the writer This isn't a documentary.
To add to that, this is just one way to look at the ending. Given the talk by dr.Mann before to Cooper, you can safely view the ending from another point.Cooper dies as soon as he goes in to the acceleration disk and the rest that happens is him viewing his family and a happy ending for himself, we aren't shared a view as to what happens to earth but instead are given a final shot of Anne who is setting up the new colony. The end. Honestly, it's not that much of a closed ending as it seems, in that regard so if your real problem is that black hole, just tell yourself that he dies past that point.
And anyway, all this seems like such a nitpick. People need to sometimes make assumptions based on the plot and script and not everything should be always layered out for them. The same way you are assuming that they were in a very close distance to the black hole I can assume that they were at a safe enough distance to make a gravitational swing. That is the benefit of the doubt which you aren't giving the writers. If you are negatively centerd to bash the movie, you will always find a way and even if my arguments seem sensical, you will always find new ones to support your claim, there is no point in this discussion from my perspective.
EDIT: Also to add to that -
Let's find something funny about your comment, you are calming that traveling at the speed of light IS POSSIBLE , ASSUMING. So you can actually assume something, in the real world about something we haven't ever observed,tested or tried out, in fact something that would absolutely change our understanding of the universe, something as important as the fact that we could go past the speed of light, but you aren't able to assume a few minor scenarios where there is actually a reasonable explanation in the film ?
Furthermore, It's really disrespectful for you to assume that Kip Throne was just there for his name and a bunch of equations. You have no proof of how much work he has done on the movie, what he was advised upon and how much of the science of the movie was ran trough him. You just make a blind assumption and conspiracy that of course because he is featured in the movie it's only about his name and the money and of course, dirty capitalism, oh how could they. Well, I'll tell you what, maybe if I'm not enough to prove you otherwise, you should download his book about the movie where I'm sure he goes in much more detail which maybe satisfactory for you about the science in the film. Hey, you can download it for free even if you don't want to support that dirty capitalist Nolan and his companion Thorne .
Clearly Kip Throne helped with the movie and you aren't even taken in to account of all the good scientific representation which it shows such as relativity,gravity,zero gravity and space curvature, black hole visualisations where all this wouldn't be possible without him and as I mentioned before he even managed to talk out Nolan in to changing the script. Even all that (the things he clearly got right) is enough to tell you that his name wasn't there just so he can sell more books.
Edit2:
I forgot to answer some of your question because I gave up but anyway here goes:
The gravity on one of the planets was 120% and on the other was 80% of earth's gravity, so again your numbers area really wrong, you mentioned 200%.
Now, how is it possible for the ship to leave the atmosphere without a rocket ? Does this need explanation ? How was it possible for them to go to saturn in the first place ? We can't get a manned mission to mars at the moment and they are going to another galaxy. It's the future. What's next, are you going to ask how the robots were responding and why they took that shape?
The rocket is a viable option on earth since it will save them fuel in the wrong run, they can't afford to carry multiple rockets to the other galaxy so they just use one on earth, their ship is capable of leaving earth without the rocket but why not save fuel - BAM.
Crops were not ever shown on a space station in the whole duration of the film and no such thing was implied. The only crops apart from the one on earth shown were again on earth in a Nasa Lab where they couldn't grow as well. BAM.
'Humor' can be programmed. I can write a simple program that tells jokes all day, making something adapt to every situation and form multiple decisions based on them is much more complex.
How can one transmit a quantum gravity theory through morse code that lacks mathematical values?
You can transmit anything in binary and you dont even need to know binary since TARS is telling you what to transmit. More over they were using binary and not morse code to transmit it but if it was morse code it would've been even easier since it has multiple more characters in it. Honestly this was really simple to answer. How do you think computers communicate ?
Or how an underfunded NASA funded 12 interstellar missions (+an extra 13th mission and a space station) supposedly worth trillions of dollars, when the government could not even afford an army anymore?
Why not research bioengineering crops since food was the problem?
As I mentioned before, Nasa was funded under secret in the film. This is the last hope for humanity and possibly nasa's last mission if they don't find the funds for it now then when would they. Do you need an account check for where they spend the money as well, honestly this movie would be 6 hours long if it had to spoon feed you all the facts.
Why not research bioengineering crops since food was the problem? Again, they were clearly researching it, there was a scene in the nasa facility where they showed Cooper corn in a lab which was clearly dying and the professor told him that his daughter's generation would probably be the last one since the corn would die as well. Honestly did you really even watch the movie or did you just come out of the theater not remember what you saw. I can truly understand if you didn't like the film but if you didn't like because your attention spam is severely limited that's a whole different issue.
Get over yourself. So you liked the movie. Fine. I liked it to. Does that mean that this movie is the second comming of Christ? Hell no. This movie have some apparent shortcomings and when someone dare to shatter your bubble you get offended. What a laugh.
Jeremy wasn't being an ass, it's Nolan fanboys who were the assholes. Jeremy just gave his honest opinion and then they just freak out and say he's stupid and wasn't paying attention to movie to understand. That's incredibly rude and arrogant and I don't blame Jeremy for getting mad that people said he wasn't smart enough to understand the movie. How would you like it when you don't like a movie I just yelled, "well you weren't paying attention! You're not smart enough to get it"
feels like you're nitpicking...
He's trying to explain why he didn't like the movie.
KrissFliss no he said in the beginning he did like it
Worse, nitpicking out of ignorance.
It was not obvious man
loved the movie but I guessed it as soon as it was said
Max Smith yeah not everyone watches movies religiously to the point were you could guess that
Karabo Masibi Usually I am pretty decent at picking up foreshadowing and hints or full circles, I didn't see Cooper as the ghost coming at all. I thought the ghost was just a figment of Murphy's animation to give her more character and maybe it gets a reference at the end in an emotional monologue reflection or something. I can see how some could have picked up what was maybe coming but I can tell you, most did not see it coming lol
Jeremy missed the point on the "big wave" part.
The planet was "suffering" from the gravitational pull of the black hole (hence all that time passing by for those not on the planet), the water was a display of that pull - to put it simply, strong gravity was pulling the water up making it look like a big wave, when in fact it wasn't even moving, the planet was, and the astronauts were just simply "riding the planet" in the direction of that "wall of water".
For me, the uniqueness of the concept made that scene epic.
That would make sense, only that they saw two waves, implying they had landed between two waves (not to speak of the third one they managed to escape). We also have a pretty similar thing on Earth with tides, but tides do not come in the form of huge waves, and neither would it have on the planet in the movie. If it was a result of the black hole's gravitational pull, the sea would have been rising steadily instead of in a huge wave shape, and we wouldn't be having several of them. I like the idea, but it doesn't seem logical. It's still uncertain why there are such gigantic waves on the planet.
Okay, just read what Neil DeGrasse Tyson said about the waves. He said that the spikyness of the waves is not realistic, but apparently the fact that there are several of them is. I'm trying to wrap my head around how that is possible. If I remember correctly, there should be one tidal wave on both sides of the planet because of laws and such, and only those two can exists at once (?). How can we then see two waves simultaneously? Even if the planet went around its own axis in two hours or so, they would only be able to see one wave at a time because of the shape of the planet. Also, if the planet was spinning around really fast, wouldn't the waves be moving *a lot* faster? If anyone can explain this, please do.
rkrokberg My guess is, that the gravitational pull of the black hole isn't consistent like the Sun's and friction of the water something something.
rkrokberg also could a human being in fact tollerate such massive forces??, clearly Kip thorne thinks they could, could someone please explain how because in out solar system, jupiter has gravity thousands of times that of earth and venus about 100 times that of earth and cosmologists say no human being could survive such gravitational fields on the surface
I'm watching this with an open mind. Generally, I think your reviews are great (they always are) and I love watching them (I always do). So when say what I have to say next, don't think I'm a raging Nolanite (he's a good director but no Hitchcock). When you mentioned the massive tidal wave and the shallow water, just think of what happens before a big wave comes in, or a tsunami. The water retreats and gets shallow. This is whats happening on that watery planet but on a much, much greater scale, because instead of the moon affecting the tides, the planet has a supermassive blackhole affecting the tides.
And another thing, the ring around the blackhole is a neutron star.
***** yes, and not just that, the black hole pulls on the waves, but this guy, simply is lacking in the brain region to comprehend this movie
The only problem I have with the planet wave thing, is the fact taht it didnt feel like they were on the planet for more than 15 min... rewatch the whole segment, there is no cut there is no nothing. They go into the planet, they explore it, ppl die, they have a convertation (robot mentions it will take 1 hour to fix the engines) and then they go off... I never saw the part where they where on the planet for 3 hours... I really didnt, when they go into the ship and they are all like "yup 23 years passed" I was like ... waht? how? when? did i miss something?
Srly... They were not potrayied as staying on the planet for more than 15 min..20 tops.
Luis Soto the engines took an hour to fix, but from the time they entered the gravity well, landed and then the extra time taken from the incident, resulted in 23 years passing
Yes!
Curious to see if Jeremy would have the same thoughts if he rewatched it today. Just saw this again it is one of the best movies in the last 30 years
It’s a masterpiece! I also would like to know if Jeremy still has the same opinion about Interstellar today
Just watched it in 4K for the second time.
Absolutely a Masterpiece.
Just watched it in 4K for the second time.
Absolutely a Masterpiece.
The whole love speech by Anne Hathaway was just way too sappy for me and it came out of nowhere. I was like what the fuck? That's random.
Casey Smith She wasn't trying to be literal she was trying to explain how she felt by backing it up with theory. Plus she said that because she felt that Edmund's planet (who was her boyfriend) was the right one for a reason she didn't understand
@@whereami2477 it was trying to foreshadow that love was like a 6th dimension that's so removed from ours we cannot understand.
In a similar fashion gravity was conquered (and soon after that Time was conquered because of wormhole and the bookcase)
That’s where her 100% truth came out, til then she was only giving 90%.
OK, to all people who hate the movie - nothing can help you, u r destined to fail in life.
But some explanations are required:
Problem with the wave heights: People, we have tides because of the puny moon on this planet. What do you think is going to happen to it when you are orbiting a fucking black hole, with like, infinite gravity???? The waves WILL be high as mountains.
All the supposed "problems" described here DONT MATTER. This is nitpicking. Why cant all just accept this film as a pinnacle of story telling and filmmaking that it is? Everything cannot be explained here. We are INCAPABLE of visualizing the fifth dimension. Its the ideas that are important, not the hard core mathematical proofs.
Sorry but I'm just going to say it again. Anyone who has any issue whatever with this movie are just not cerebral enough and not the target audience.
There ... I said it ...
Give all the thumbs down you can.
I don't care.
And shit I have fallen in love with Matthew McC, (or is it Nolan?).
You are correct Jahns, this is not the best movie in 30 years - its the best in a 100.
But I still love you. looking forward to your new videos.
Although I share your opinion that this movie is incredible in nearly every way just because someone didn't like it because a future version of themselves in the fifth dimension messed with the gravity in front of their eyes doesn't make them an idiot. You saying that makes you seem inconsiderate to other opinions making you an idiot.
Very well said! Thankyou.
The height of the wave isn't a problem, how high they spike is, unless you want to tell me that gravity only affects a small part on the planet and so only a certain section of water is affected by it.
Ηρακλής Προβιαδάκης ummm...well...we obviously did see their effects on the first four dimensions? And they did pull ideas from the ADD model, but it didn't seem like that was all they were going for - I'll give them creative license for that one.
And as far as being that close to the accretion disc: assuming that the planet was in a stable orbit, and had a normal rotation like we saw on the second planet, and had deep oceans - yes, once the waves got to 1.5 ft. deep water, they would be that massive.
Ηρακλής Προβιαδάκης I agree with most of what you said, but we do get to hear abou the random gravitational anomalies the 5D beings caused, which were not connected to the events inside of the tesseract.
The biggest thing that impressed me was how well they broke down high-level physics concepts and made them relatively understandable. So while they didn't explain the physics of their spacecraft, it didn't impact my enjoyment of the movie since their depiction of black holes and the planets that could potentially orbit them was fairly good minus the radiation factor and the fact that a true singularity can never exist. Also, their depiction of wormholes was excellent as was their explanations of 5D beings which is purely theoretical.
Nope. Interstellar was the best film hands down in movie history. 11/10
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You need to see more movies mate. Like seriously, I liked Interstellar just fine but it ain't even CLOSE to the top ten list.
Who’s here from Jeremy’s Tenet analysis
yeap, nice to see Jeremy bite her words and recognice his mistake
I was searching for mentioned comment but now i think he just paraphrased the top comment explaining multiple of his "mistakes".
Oh fuck, so I am not unique, one-in-a-kind individual who thought about finding this review and finding this important comment...
hello there
I feel like you were mostly paying attention to plot/science holes other than the story itself.
The film though is very much focused on the scientific fact behind the plot, and that's what the audience was really focusing on. It's not as if the plot was bad, but it wasn't as interesting as the science behind it, which really is expected with a film so grounded in science
+RadarFilms Yea, the only thing wrong was that the relativity on the planet was way too powerful, at best, it would displace them by a few minutes.
Dude the plot IS the story what are you on. If the science doesn't make sense and they pull _oh love and trust and blah_ into the science then sorry buddy, that shit's part of the story. And it's dissatisfying as fuck.
Actually the movie is pretty accurate on it's displacement of time. The people in satellites in space have their time displaced by a few minutes. Near a black hole with that much gravitational pull would have a tremendous displacement. Christopher Nolan even had a physician to help him write it so he wouldn't flaw it too much.
Gives Big Hero Generic 6 a Blue-ray because Marvel (B)
Gives About Time a Blue-ray (B)
Gives Gravity an awesometacular (A)
Gives Interstellar a Good time, no alcohol required (C)
Sometimes i wonder Jeremy lol, I get it i do, i love ya man, just cant agree on this one which is rare for me
thats why he doesnt use a numerical/alphabetical rating system...ppl just dont get it.
***** hes not , he is a reviewer there is a difference between personal, and constructive criticism. other wise what is the point of a critic if he just gives hes opinion, i dont see critics for their opinion i see them for their analysis of a movie, in which he failed in this one.
You haven't seen big hero 6 yet, have you? :/
***** Basically, people just can't handle differing opinions and its sad.
Those are not the ratings. The ratings are Awesometacular, Blu-ray and No alcohol required. They do not translate to any letter. Plus, everyone is free of having their opinions.
Probably one of the best movies of christopher nolan. Is something wrong with me?
It`s a masterpiece at so many levels...that is just a waste of time
traying to (explain those factors to other ppl)
For someone that writes at a third grade level. I feel as though you are the last person that should be saying others lack understand.
*****
English is not my native lenguage
(I learn by my self ) and even if it is far from perfect, at least it's good enough for someone who has learned without any help.
How many languages can you speak and write? and how many of those lenguages have you learned by yourself ?
So yeah... I write as a three years old boy, but nonetheless a three years old boy smarter than you.
***** My friend that would be a pleasure...
but i dont think that, this "jeremyjahns place" is the right place for in-depth discussion.
It is his best movie. The movie is so deep and complex that it will probably take a couple of months or even years for today's retarded movie fans to understand it and appreciate it
I didn't see the ending coming at all
Jeremy I really like your videos but you missed the point on just about everything on this one:
You got a lot of the movie but you didn't get some key points and thus, you had issues. Here is why:
1) I'm glad you guessed it. But I was shocked. I thought they were actually 5th dimensional beings because at the start of the movie how was anyone supposed to guess that a guy was two places at once? Cooper just walked into the room while the sand was blowing from his truck and saw the NASA coordinates on the floor. I would like to ask people who guessed it why it was obvious since at that point there was no evidence to show who the ghost was. They have probably seen Contact or they were playing the "here's the twist game". Because that was NOT obvious to me. And I guess most film endings right and have pay a heavy attention to detail.
2) They went to the planet because there were signs if organic life because of the water. But it turned into a pitstop because the wave they were unexpectedly hit by was the same one that caught Miller off guard when she landed there. Which is completely logical. As for the giant wave possibility, Neil De Grasse(an actual scientific authority) has already validated in a different video, that the wave is possible due to the planets rotation and the Gargantua's gravitational pull. "similar to the pull of the moon on the earth's waves.
3) Cooper's son: He does care about his son but his son was not the focus of the story because he was going to be a farmer. His daughter was in the spotlight because at the end of the story, her sharp mind would use cooper's information to complete the work. Plus, she was the emotional one so he had to spend more time convincing her. His son was a lot older and at the time of him leaving he was able to take care of himself. Furthermore, there was a large chunk in the middle where his son's life played out in the messages he sent where as his daughter was nowhere to be seen. And his son died earlier because of his insistence to live on the farm in the dust rather than going with Murph to live in a healthier environment. His son was important but he wasn't central to the story.
4) Dr. Mann - it was symbolism, yes. But it was true symbolism. Mankind is indeed emotionally corruptible. He sacrificed everything for the mission and when he wakes up he sees that Cooper is planning to use the endurance to go home to his kids and Mann wanted to continue the mission instead and because being alone for so long drove him a little nuts he wasn't thinking clearly.
5) Anne Hathaway - She saw that both the planets were edible. She preferred to go choose the one where she can also be with someone she cares about in case Plan A fails. This was the same reason Cooper wanted to be with his children instead of following Plan B after he found out Michael Caine lied. Also as humans we do illogical things all the time when people we love are in question.
Abused wives stay with their husbands. Parents put up with their children's bullshit because of love. Its known to be the greatest effect on our psyche. That was not out of place. Furthermore, us as humans are not characters defined by a single personality. We do abnormal things in extreme circumstances. She knew before she left Earth that they would visit Edmund's on this trip. But after the water planet circumstances changed. She's a human woman and she reacted. Not out of character the way I see it.
6) As for love being quantifiable I read somewhere that explained it something like this: Love is quantifiable in the same terms that other feelings are. Let's take pain for example. If some asks you "how much does it hurt?" You can say a little, fair amount, a lot etc. We can quantify pain but we just don't have a standard unit of measurement. We love a number of people in our loves but we can tell intuitively how much we love them. Thus, it is quantifiable by definition. Not magic, its just a concept that needs to be grasped.
7) The film didn't use love in a supernatural way for its ending. He used gravity to send the message to the old Murph in the watch. He counted on the fact that she loves him enough to come back for his things. And the reason it was her room in the tesseract is because she was the ideal choice for him to be able to get his message across. His son wasn't smart enough or possessed the ambition yo decode messages and carry on solving Brand's equation.
8) Old Murph - Its not that she didn't want to see him. In fact, when she heard he was found she took the initiative to come see him in her old age and she was close to death by the time he made it back. She didn't want him to see her die because it would be fucked up for a parent to witness their child's death. Plus his life had no purpose there anymore as he was an alien to them. With Brand making a colony on Edmund's planet he had a purpose and could live the rest of his life with "his own kind" so to speak.
10) Sending Robots to Lazarus Missions alone - BADDDDD IDEA. they explained that robots cannot improvise well. A machine is capable of its programming only. Nothing more, The robot would not be able to fix itself and has all the limitations a machine does. Plus they don't have the survival instinct that comes in handy in a time or crisis(like the wave). And also they cannot think completely for themselves, the follow human instructions unless its a security issue.
My honest opinion is that you are looking at the film the wrong way. You didn't love it when you saw it, which is fine. But you also complain about the above things because you missed some key elements of the film that addressed these issues.
Bane AlGhul I think I've bothered to sign in to comment on youtube 2 maybe 3 times in my life, but I felt compelled to thank you for articulating everything I thought as I watched Jeremy rattle off his faults of such a fantastic film. Well said! If only more people actually thought about what they were watching. Bought the blu ray yesterday and I'm skint 99% of the time!
Bane AlGhul Thanks for reproving this good guy's misconceptions. The only thing that irks me about this story is what seems to be circular reasoning. I hope you or someone else might correct me:
How did Matthew's character (whom I'll call the 'dad') find the NASA base? I know the immediate answer is he coded it to his past self from within the black hole, but am I the only one who sees this past 'dad's' knowledge of the base location depended on the future 'dad's' communication, which depended on the past 'dad's' knowledge of the base location, which depended on the future 'dad's' communication...etc... etc... is not this circular reasoning?
And don't say the robot told him, because the robot is also part of this circle. I really hope someone can correct me if I am wrong about this circular reasoning.
crowviking I'm not sure what the name is but that part is based off of a major paradox where if you gave something to your past self, then you are the one who gave it to him, and when he grows that age, he does the same. The future kind of "self sustains" In such a way where the objects was never really created. The only real way to look at this paradox would be in a higher dimension where you could see time in a non-linear way, as the movie portrayed it happening.
crowviking that isn't circular reasoning but a time paradox( same concept but different elements). The way this works is the following:
In the fifth dimension, time is a physical dimension. So gravity was used to send the message back(which you already know).
Here is what you don't know(so to speak):
A 2D being cannot perceive 3D environments. Its outside of its understanding. It doesn't know what depth is. You cannot explain it because it has not the capacity to understand. It can see the effect of depth where an object or a being can disappear as soon as it leaves its 2D planes. Same way we as humans cannot logically understand the time paradox even though we see the effects of it because it is outside of our logical perception of the world. So the simple answer is we cannot understand that paradox until we can experience that dimension itself.
It is the explanation that makes sense to me and I don't see how it could have been portrayed any differently.
If you have any further question please let me know.
Bane AlGhul This is what I wanted to say but I don't possess that much patience to type this... It will be great if Jeremy reads this comment and changes his opinions :)
Jeremy I appreciate you making this video and I hear your thoughts and hey man I respect that it's your opinion (although I think that buy it on blu-Ray would have been a better rating). I'm not a Nolan fanboy, but my own personnel opinion is that Interstellar was an incredible cinematic experience, the acting, effects and score were amazing and I was in suspense for a lot of the film. But hey were all allowed our own opinions and that's just mine.
Try watching interstellar when it leaves theaters.
It'll be the same thing that happened to Avatar and Gravity.
I intend on watching it when it's out of cinemas ... On Blu-Ray
And Seren don't +1 your own comment it makes you look just a little insecure and stupid
Exactly why he didn't reccomend it on Blu-ray.
If its a movie plagued with issues now, guess how it'll feel without a giant screen and sound system blaring loud noises
I think it's simply because people overhyped it because it's a Nolan movie. If it was directed by Micheal Bay or something, it would've been called the greatest movie ever.
You people are ridiculous. Jeremy LIKED THE MOVIE. Just because he didn't LOVE IT, doesn't mean he didn't enjoy it. No movie is perfect and this one is definitely not an exception. That's why it has a 73% on RottenTomatoes. You watch his videos for HIS opinion and just because his is different than yours, that means he "didn't understand it?" that makes no sense. He understood the movie just fine. His channel is and always will be HIS OPINION. If you have a problem with that, then please unsubscribe and leave. There were many great films out this year. And way more than 10 that could easily pass Interstellar on a list. Not my list, but it's completely reasonable that someone won't have it on their Top 10. But that doesn't mean they didn't like the film. You people just need to stop all this hate. It's very disappointing.
his opinion is his opinion, that is all fine. but no, he does not fucking understand most of the science aspect of the movie YET he still pertains that he do! THAT is arrogance.
Jama Guile and how exactly do you know this??
Stetson Robison dude, did you not watch the video and see his tweet. he tweeted out constantly that he "gets it" and was so arrogant he told other people to learn more about physic. yet when i watch this video and he's trying to explain the science of the film, it's pretty much all wrong.
Jama Guile And what exactly do you claim he got wrong? And not understanding 100% of the science in a movie doesn't mean he doesn't "get" the movie.
Stetson Robison the science aspect, which pretty much EVERY reviewer i've come across don't know what the damn hell they're talking about. and the review who tries to criticize the science of the film maddens me because its like they're saying they know physic more than the physicist kip throne. review that talks about the story element and the way movie conveys the story and how that is not enough is GREAT! like chris stuckmann's spoiler video where he touch on none of the physic element but concentrate on the core thing that the movie SHOULD'VE done better, exposition, plot, ending. Jeremy in the other hand talks about stuff he doesn't know, and criticize things explained already to back up his rating. I know interstellar is not a perfect movie, just don't bash on the science element of the movie unless you know anything about physic.
I have some arguments for what you said, but I certainly don't know if these arguments are right.
1) The last planet was stated to not be under the gravity problem of being as close to the black hole as the other two.
2) Matt was not going to the planet to be with the girl. He is going because the point of his character is that he is an explorer. He is the guy who wants to keep moving on to the next thing... discovering.
3) I don't think her desire to be with her fella was such a huge break in character. She even is presenting her argument with the argument of "I may be full of shit because I'm in love with this guy, but we should go to his planet." I think she was true to her character.
4) I think you're over-doing it with the love is quantifiable thing. I didn't feel that this was the anchor of the movie. I think it was simply saying that our love for one another... our emotional bond is one of the reasons we keep fighting on... because we have that... but not that love is an actual, measurable thing.
5) NASA was shut down by the government, but I believe they said that the lab was being secretly provided for by the government. Even if it wasn't, they said those initial launches were done many, many years ago... so maybe before NASA was shut down publicly.
6) The entire area of that water planet was not as shallow as where they were.
7) You answered your own question about the 5th dimensional beings, in the fact that they could not communicate directly with us. Maybe in their perception, the wormhole by Saturn was really close... or maybe it was where they knew the station would eventually be. It is also stated that the 5th dimensional beings are just the human race from the vast future where we had evolved into that kind of a thing.
8) I didn't know Matt was going to be the ghost. I initially thought it was some kind of gravity effect from the NASA base. Then, I thought it was the 5th dimensional beings trying to send information to Matt because they knew he would be the pilot... so I was surprised. On the other hand, I did figure out Sixth Sense as fast you figured this one out... so I can see how that can be disappointing.
I liked the movie a lot more than you... a hell of a lot more than you. I don't agree with your feelings on the film, but I know we can both handle opposing views like reasonable people.
I always enjoy your reviewing style and I'm sad we don't agree on this one.
I concur and had every point you did while watching this video and it erks me shrugged off the film with such smugness it erks me to no end now and definitely knock him down for me when it comes to film reviews. I use to love watching him and chris for these reviews and to reconcile my thoughts after watching movies. Now i know i just wont be watching his reviews much if its a sci-fy movie
It is my favorite movie ever, I believe the change in Ann’s character is a part of her giving up science due to the trauma of Miller’s planet, also I believe the creativity is insane and I love all the elements of the movie and the fact that love is the answer not science is beautiful
I agree - the "change" in Ann's character isnt so much a change - It shows how much depth there is to her - Some people that are devoted to a specific thing or an idea of thinking/and way of appearing to others, in reality have something different that they really care about, but hide it because its a weakness that they dont want to display as it will undermine the thing that they're trying to show/prove. The love for miller is the weakness which in the eyes of others (not everyone) would undermine Ann's devotion to science and whatever else the movie aims for.
Wow, reading through the comments, a lot of people were butt hurt my Jeremy's review (which is all down to personal taste). What does it matter if he didn't enjoy it as much as you. You enjoyed it, be happy and move the fuck on. Oh if your going to unsub - No cares, just unsub. Good video Jeremy keep it buddy.
no, people are mad because jeremy PREFACE and says it clearly that he "GETS IT" when in fact he barely understand most of the physics surrounding the film! As a physicist/chemistry major, hearing him on twitter defending that he "gets it" and telling OTHER to learn more about physic and then watching his video talking about Physic "plotholes". i was sitting there with a fucking facepalm and frustrated and felt he is literally pissing on one of the greatest physicist right now, Kip Thorne who help with the actual science of the film! Also jeremy nitpicks ALOT, usually when i disagree with jeremy and he post a spoiler talk video explaining why he hates or love it, its ALWAYS very informative and good argument. this one it just seems he is bitter for bitter sake.
Ηρακλής Προβιαδάκης crossing the event horizon is death, you field of vision become so distorted you can see 360 degree and your vison becomes red shifted, the gravity of the the black hole pulls you so fast you barely realize anything that happens and after a couple of minutes, spagetthfication occurs to your body and you die. We know little about the actual detail INSIDE the black hole, so thats where the film takes liberty and creates a 5d dimension when in reality cooper and tar would've die so, so much sooner.
. the rest of your complaint is not at all to do with the physic/science element of the movie, more with the plot. but i will explain some
1. army are not necessary anymore, there is no military because there is no need not because the country is not able to fund them. also trillions is a not alot compare to what US spends every year, if they don't have to spend all their budget on military, its easy to fund NASA over the course of lets say couple of decade. also they did bioenginnering, that was whats been keeping them alive this whole time! but even that is dying out.
2. what about the ice cloud, its perfectly logical under the certain environment.
3.SIRI on my iphone is very humours, so is the thing on android, doesn't mean they know what they're doing. also if there are only robots for these mission, how are they going to achieve plan B, since michael caine knew plan A was a bust.
4. yes this film is scientifically very accurate to the best of its ability, we're talking about theroetical physic here! any other therotical physic movie comes to mind? NOPE, because its too hard and ambitious to do. its hell more accurate and respectible than most other space movie namely "GRAVITY" since we KNOW about space around our own planet yet the film still butcher thirty percent of real world application in space.
5. the gravity were 130 percent in those planet.
6. crops(corn) didn't die on earth....yet. It would take another couple of decade for that to happen so its perfectly logical for corn to grow in the space station under the right condition.
follow neil tyson or as a matter of fact research before you blabber whether or not the film is scientifically inaccurate when in reality the people who help made the film, actual physicist, know a lot more than you.
Ηρακλής Προβιαδάκης i have no idea where you get the idea that i was a physicist. i'm in my second year of chemistry major/physic minor. also i've stated numerous time(to you or someone else) the film should've ended the second cooper cross the event horizon because scientifically that is the end. also where did you hear interstellar was 100 percent accurate, no one ever said it was 100 percent accurate because the early trailers depicts a wormhole which any idiot would realize wormhole is kind of impossible as it requires negative energy and even then it would be the size of a proton. the fact they said it would only take 4 years to reach saturn should already makes you realize the film is not 100 accurate in the number. the relativity and time distorted is off aswell, some mathematic are all off(mostly in the time it takes) so the story could fit with the time spent. Tyson is an amazing physicist, i like him because he has charm just like other scientist like bill nye or carl sagen. i personally refer to alexander polykov for his work on string theory . also i don't know everything about physic, but i know enough to understand all the scientific aspect of the film. its amazing how obviously offended you are by my answers to your question, and how you resort to prejudice simply because i pointed out the flaw in your argument. Dude, did you seriously think i would've seen interstellar unless i know it talks about relativity and space travel? hell no. i saw it because i'm a fan of science and real depiction of it. good job on backing your argument up with the typical, "you don't know anything! you don't know shit about physic" trust me on this one, i think i know slightly more physic than you or any random internet person deamaning other.
EDIT: reading back your comment, did you really suggest the alien planet wouldn't exist there? are you talking about the black holes, cause planet orbiting a black hole under the condition the movie specified is ENTIRELY possible. in my previous comment i answer your question of "what would happen if one is to fall into the event horizon" and my answer was accurate. finally your answer to your own question makes no sense "they would easily be dead on approach"? *facepalm*
Linkjoy123 its a sci fi, come on movies about love should be like this not like fucking twilight
Linkjoy123
so you think the love between a parent and a child is bullshit? you have serious issues my friend .. hope you never become a father cause your child would become as thick as yourself
Big fan but have to disagree with everything you said. planet warmth is not judged by only distance if you was really an astronomy fanatic you would know that the atmosphere actually has more to do with the temperature than the Sun or the distance of whatever is heating it( greenhouse effect) . Secondly it wasn't Matthew McConaughey who was chosen, it was Murphy and he was used as a tool to communicate to her because she was the only one who could solve the equation. And the 5th dimensional beings who were already identified as being evolved version of us could not interact with this world so they could only drop little hints of how to save our self. I feel like you should really watch the movie a second time I feel like most your complaints are nothing more than your ignorance to certain concepts in the movie
agreed
He's looks so foolish because he thinks he see flaws but its just ignorance
Just gonna put this out there and call me stupid if you want or whatever but i just wanna know if i've missed something and would like to know. I just didn't understand that if the 5th dimensional being are evolved versions of us does that mean us in the far future? where we've evolved to become 5th dimensional and if so I just didn't understand how when they/we in the future create the worm hole and hints for us to save ourselves, it means that the mission worked be it plan A or plan B and then humans went on to become vastly intelligent and like Cooper we plant the worm hole in the past for ourselves like he did with the code to Murph through the watch but who put the worm hole there for us to travel through it and be given the chance to save humanity in the first place for example the worm hole is put there for us to survive we go through it and Plan A works and we bring the humans through it and start life on this planet then we evolve, become 5th dimensional and then place the worm whole in the past like cooper for us to survive but who put it their in the first place. If this at all makes sense.
Jane Doe The guy is on a roll, I bet he thinks he his words are making Jeremy cry.
Daniel Spencer The 5th dimensional beings may of been a version of us from an alternate universe, one where humans didn't die off from famine. These beings then lived on and prospered to become very advanced, saw that the humans from the movie's universe were dieing off, and decided to give them a helping hand. You can Google alternate universes or Many-worlds interpretation to learn more about it.
I thought the 5th dimensional beings were humans from the future..?
They're descendants of Plan B! (The incubated clones that were brought into a colony by Anne Hathaway's character.) it would be impossible for the humans of Earth to do that. The humans of Plan B put the wormhole and and the tesseract for Copper there.
No, the embryos were brought there through the wormhole, so they couldn't have placed it there. What COULD be the case is this: in reality, we project almost if not all of what we see. A lot of times we find that our states of emotional confusion and difficulty, we somehow tend to place ourselves in the right path towards "salvation." Perhaps the wormhole and tesseract were projected into reality as a survival mechanism by some dormant or subconscious part of our minds- we forget that we are made of what we are trying to find, the wisdom and knowledge we seek may not be in our conscious grasp, but they are a part of who we are. They are the reason we are. It is within us. Perhaps that is how this all happened. That's my own firm theory.
Caleb Crowe You make a good point. But what I said actually is the official plot story of the movie...
Well thank you. And yeah, yours is the official story. I just need it to make sense, it's such a good movie. Definitely a favorite.
Gabriel Orengo Walter Yep teh tessarect - and Coopers ability to enter it - was created by humans that had evolved to traverse the dimension of time. This is the real bootstrap explored, not the one between Cooper and Murph.
I knew Coop was the "ghost" as soon as Murph said "it says STAY"
I thought she was just tripping lol
+asif naseri Yup, that's what sold the twist to me too. STAY is a too personal message, I thought it was either Coop or Murph itself.
That spinning dock scene though.....
10/10
indeed....
That scene was the tribute to 2001 Space Odyssey.
I literally had a brain orgasm for that scene.
. . . .would've been ah-mazing had we not seen Gravity. Unfortunately, we did.
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except it was better than anything in gravity...
Just saw Interstellar, and I didn't catch the beginning foreshadow like Jeremy did -- I knew it was a foreshadow but couldn't have predicted Matthew Mcconaughey would survive a swan dive into a black hole -- so, yeah I didn't catch that as a foreshadow.
Also, I know we want interesting and dimensional characters, but a farmer that is a former astronaut? LOL that's like Transformers AOE with Walberg the inventor.
The problems with Earth's soil being irreparable? OR Blight (semantics) or whatever the fuck. Joke. Earth dying will be cause of something celestial, not bad soil: an issue that has already been encountered and resolved in places like Dubai.
The planet pit-stops sucked. I went to watch the movie to see how CGI would depict these would be exoplanets, not cause of the factual scientific substance. BUT nooooo, the planet pit-stops lacked so much creativity -- a tidal wave here, water crystallized clouds there. Shit, I've seen more entertaining conjuring of planet structures in documentaries.
The son was a wasted character. And in the "rising tension" part of the movie with the son being the impetus for a ticking clock on the daughter's end of the movie (you know the whole crops burning scene: fucking kidding me, right?). "hurry hurry, before he gets back," WHY? What's he gonna do? -- ANS: give her a hug. She's his sister and he wasn't presented a nefarious person in the movie, SO, I wasn't worried for a sec watching that, nor should Murphy have been rushed.
*YES* Matt Damon's character shoulda just said, yeah... I lied. It's not like they woulda freaking left him behind or something. Instead, he acts all irrational for a supposed scientist. He said, he was trying to save mankind.... emmmm, HOW? What was his plan?... to go to Edmund's planet? Cause, Hathaway did that regardless.
I did buy into Hathaway's character, and how she changed. She's a woman, and she was in love, and both planets were emitting positive data feedack beacons -- so why not? No issue there.
The black hole thing in the end. B.S. And who the heck are "THEY?" Fifth dimensional beings? I know it's fiction, but c'mon, at least denote the dam fiction. This movie has more questions than answers. Jeremy, "what they can or cannot do?" How about: who the HELL are they?
Finally.... after all the madness they went through -- love, 4th and 5th dimensions, celestial aid, anomalies, and LOVE -- the resolution from this so-called equation, that we were never even clued into, much less written on a board or explained: *BUILD ELYSIUM* Sorry Nolan, I saw that movie already. Funny that Matt Damon was in this movie too. Jeremy is too kind. I'd give this movie a C-. 3 hr waste of my day.
It was a disease. 'Blight'?
It was jumping from crop to crop.
Should've paid a little more attention.
CANE Airsoft Okay seriously, that makes it worse. LOL, so "Blight" is why we needed to go through a worm hole to find another planet? Dude, there is a reason why the word Blight is in the English dictionary today. Clearly we are aware of its existence and thus far haven't needed to seek out another planet. And, I don't think Elysium and gravity is the answer to Blight now is it? You clearly have not been to 3rd world countries that live through things like Blight, and droughts. If i didn't pay enough attention, it was cause of bordom, and wondering how Blight means severe harmattan, to the extent we were seeing in this movie (if you even wanna call that harmattan). Dude, be serious answering here. There are several worse diseases on Earth then plant Blight. Plus google it, you'll find Blight treatment all over the place. LOL, nice joke though, you make me laugh.
CANE Airsoft And by the way, Blight, soil damage -- it's all semantics. That point I made was "Earth dying will be cause of something celestial, not bad soil: an issue that has already been encountered and resolved in places like Dubai." So whether it is blight or something else, it's clearly something we have presently on Earth and I don't see us needing another planet right now. Seriously, don't nit-pick. Address the concern I put out or let it be, instead of telling me crap like it was Blight. Think in the scheme of the movie and story, not an open textbook. A story has an inciting incident, a call to duty, rising tension, and then a resolution. Go ahead, and explain how the resolution in this story addresses the issue of exaggerated Blight in this story. Exoplanets require adapting to, perhaps even some terraforming... so please do explain. Oh and here's a link for you too so you know I ain't lying when I say this movie offers more questions than answers filmschoolrejects.com/features/unanswered-questions-interstellar.php
Not to mention that in this story Plan A and Plan B worked. Totally undermining the stakes, and neatly tying the movie end with a bow. Too much convenience in this movie. Going into the black hole itself wasn't part of the plan, it was Cooper (hope I have the name right for reasons of semantics) sacrifice, or seemed so until the black hole turned out to be a blessing as opposed to his doom. I was actually getting emotional over his sacrifice........until I saw the b.s. that followed with him making a living room out the black hole.
How did you not understand that a planet was dying and needed food so someone who retired from one career would start up another to help SAVE THE HUMAN RACE?
I don't understand why people rant on reviews. I did love Interstellar, and it truly is one of my favourite films. And I love it with all of it's virtues and vices. I love the film accepting what it truly is.
Now, a review only specifies the points that exist in a movie. The rating given to it by the reviewer is simply a reference for the viewer. If your opinions about certain factors are similar with the reviewer, you'd agree with him, if no, you'd disagree with him. Hence, the purpose of the review is satisfied, as after watching the review, you know if you will like the movie or no.
AMEN.
Finding out Cooper was the "ghost" was one of the biggest twists I have seen in a movie for a long time. I guess I just wasn't able to put two and two together. I guarantee, if you were in my place, you would have liked the movie A LOT more. I can imagine being in your place and it would put me off a bit, knowing how it would end.
- NASA funding = The money they talk about in the school scene (taxes not going to colleges)
- Huge Waves = were great AND SCIENTIFIC as an object like a black hole with HUGE gravitational consequences would have caused them, as the Moon causes the tides on Earth
- Apart from the speech of sentimental Dr Brand in the middle part of the movie i didn't get how "Love" was so overblown in this movie that would be bothersome. Yes, that scene was kind of disturbing (as she was quite irrational), but 5 minutes later she is like "You were right, i hope you keep being objective!"
-The science used in this movie was done VERY well. Relativity, Black Holes and their effects, wormholes and even the visualization of gravity as a dimension (the strings Cooper manipulated to send the messages) is simply beautiful. Those were some bold moves, doubling with forces like these for a Director and i admire his courage (and that he pulled it off).
I can't help but compare this movie to Gravity, which was a visual treat, but all the plot holes and WRONG SCIENCE/LOGIC in that movie killed most of the tension/suspense for me. If Gravity had a science adviser, half that movie would be cut out. Interstellar had a great theoretical physicist as an adviser and their movie is stronger, better and more accurate...
+JeremyJahns . I think you need to improve your points.
I don't think that landing on the water planet was just a pit stop. If you followed the plot, they did it to get Miller's data. Secondly, waves are allowed to be that big because of the gravity caused by the black hole. That's how tidal waves form on earth, due to the sun and moon's gravitational pull.
On the whole issue of love, as you have stated, Nolan's film is trying to be scientific and, as Brand explicitly says in her speech that one should listen to her because she is a scientist. She clearly is looking at her attraction to someone else as a type of phenomena that humans do not completely understand the workings of yet. So it doesn't really take away from her character when she tries to fit it with science. Also, an you prove to me that love isn't quantifiable?
Lastly, your points are mostly just nitpicking (abilities of 5th dimensional beings, orbital radii of planets, etc.) and not critical of what the film is trying to convey. You are trying to fit your own preconceived framework of what a film should be rather than accepting it for what it is.
Giving slightly better arguments might go a long way to help your review.
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To be fair to JJ on the below point:
"...looking at her attraction to someone else as a type of phenomena... [that] she tries to fit it with science. Also, an [sic] you prove to me that love isn't quantifiable?"
Scientific method: postulate>test>result>proof / re-postulate
In real life, burden on inquiry is on the part postulating that love is quantifiable, the positive postulate, not the other way round. Contraposition does not aid proof here (not ¬ statement).
mumhustler I wasn't trying to prove anything. I was saying that humans really haven't tested whether love is quantifiable or not. Therefore, for one to believe that one postulate seems more ridiculous than the other and to look at it with cynicism really is a shallow observation.
Joshua Aduol
I liked how they used the theme of love. to me ann hathaways character setup for the theme. the son seems to love his dad, being there for him, sending him messages, were as the daughter seems to hate him. the two kids both take interest in what their dad does. when theyre older the son becomes more of a food on the table guy, stops loving his dad for leaving, says grandpa raised him. where the daughter is still a dreamer, and doesnt stop loving her dad.
I know I’m literally five years late to this video but I’m currently dying at 6:07 *whisper* “Here’s the formula okay now take it back to earth” 😂😂😂
Just a quick reminder, it was not a wave, it was a 'tidal wave', which is something completely different.
I love how people think this movie is hard to follow. Every major plot point was explained fully in dialogue and pretty obviously.
Thats why it sucks balls, its like 2001 A.S.O had a prologue to explain the shit your about to see. Interstellar would have been SOOOOO MUCH BETTER had they not attempted to try and clumsily explain everything.
dave nic Then people would have bitched about not being able to understand the plot.
apotheos1s People bitch about not understanding 2001, still a WAAAAAY better movie with even more critical acclaim.
apotheos1s Its like saying in inception they should show the top fall so people don't wonder about it, and guess what not explaining it makes it the best/most powerful scene in the movie.
dave nic Just a side note, 2001 had mixed reviews when it came out initially.
I liked the movie a lot. It was a good story. I can see why not a lot of people don't care for it but I'm not angry about it. It wouldn't be a Nolan movie if people weren't constantly arguing about it
^ this is gospel.
Nolan isn't God lol.
He is a man who can make mistakes.
Interstellar definitely proves that.
It was an average movie.
QLCHerald Personally I really don't like most of Nolans other films, particularly TDK trilogy and inception. With that said I honestly found Interstellar to be one of my favorite movies I've seen in a while
Just saw your Tenet trailer review & what you mentioned about Interstellar. So...Since you had this knowledge seeking journey, inspired by Interstellar (one of my Nolan favorites)...I would very much enjoy seeing another review of Interstellar
(Spoilers obviously).
I'm curious how you would review/discuss it now, after you've taken this deeper dive into
the concepts Interstellar explores. I think it would be fascinatingly awesome!!
Nolan is a director that doesn't like to dumb down his material like a ton of other si-fi directors....some people love that, others hate it. AND THAT'S OK!!
Akash Pawar he does dumb it down. That is the problem. This movie is a dumbed down version of 2001
SuperHarryFan The science is too dumbed down for the audience, Nolan makes you assume a lot of stuff including large logic jumps
mrcryingnarcissus Nolan himself stated he wanted to make the new 2001 and he compared his movie constantly with 2001. But apparently the director of the movie has less clue of his own movie than you.
mrcryingnarcissus He said, that with Interstellar, he wanted to convey the magic he felt when watching 2001 for the first time. He said that on a yahoo interview. The difference between his movie and 2001, is that Kubrick used almost no dialogue in the second half of the movie and let the images speak for themselves. In Interstellar we had Cooper and those guys from the space station explaining everything to the audience, so that people like you could watch it and feel smart. That is why it is dumbed down.
mrcryingnarcissus I never said these movies have the same stories. Movies are not just about stories. The directors of those movies had the same intention when making their movie. Showing the audience the possible scape of space. Kubrick did that by showing and since Nolan (or the producers since hollywood is full of pussies afraid to take risks) didn't trust the audience enough they explained everything that happened when things started to get complicated. But by now I have accepted that arguing with an agressive Nolan Fanboy is futile, so live long and happily. And enjoy dunkirk which you probably already accepted as the best movie of 2017.
I feel like you are picking apart the movie waaaay too much. Like to the extent you are going, you could do that to every movie and just say 'well why did that happen like that, when it could have happened like that? Which completely changes the movie, you could do that with literally every film in existence if you wanted to.
he just needed to find some bs to defend his sambolic first review
I agree. Is almost ridiculous. He's just angry.
If a movie is trying to make you think you should pick it apart.
X-Men Days of Future Past, Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, Captain America: Winter Soldier, How to Train Your Dragon 2, Nightcrawler...I'm blanking out. What were the other Awesometaculars?
Also I know this might piss people off but I thought Guardians of the Galaxy was a better sci-fi than Interstellar. But unlike Interstellar fans I'm not bitching that Jeremy didn't find it awesometacular. I loved it, he loved it, he just liked some movies more. And I'm okay with that :D
It's nice to see another nice person. I hope you continue to be nice and that others are nice to you. But seriously I hope that some of the fans of Interstellar will calm the fuck down. Unless they want to be another 'Frozen' fandom.
***** The lego movie was "worth buying on bluray"
Also Edge of Tomorrow was "Awesometacular"
After I saw the movie, I knew why Jeremy didn't give it a "Awesometacular". Because it was confusing ass hell....lol. Still it was a great movie and woke up my mind. I felt like I went thru a day with Lumosity.
Hunter Demers Ah I knew I missed one! Now I just gotta remember what the other ones if there was more were. That's kinda something I look forward to when Jeremy goes to watch movies, just guessing what'll end up on his top 10 best and worst lists.
Who is here after watching his TENET video.
I loved this movie
I actually found the message that Love is the most powerful force in existence, that crosses time, space and the dimensions to be a very beautiful and powerful message
To each their own though
Love your movie reviews!!
Jeremy seriously man you are my favourite UA-cam reviewer but I really lost a bit of respect for you after this review. Interstellar is one of the greatest sci fi movies ever, easily one of the top tens. You are just nitpicking things about this movie. But it's cool, everyone has their own opinion.
I gained respect for him. He showed a lot of honesty and integrity in the face of an unpopular opinion. He made some really good points. He got me thinking "wow, as good as this movie was, its possible that it could have been even better". Somehow, that thought amazes me. Just thinking what could have been and what could be.
Personally I enjoyed the movie. I loved what it wanted to be and was pretty satisfied with the execution. For me, it was a 10/10.
I couldn't agree more.
"I respect you because you have same opinion with me! I disrespect you because you no agree with me!"
I've always thought that to enjoy nolan movies, you gotta use Nolan logic or science. And Nolan science is law , it is God. You can't take it seriously. Or you'll dislike it. I feel like inception had as many questionable things as interstellar. Maybe Jeremy's interest with astronomy made him more critical of this. I mean any question he brought up can likely be answered. People can get creative and it would probably be a never ending discussion. Its a movie, it doesn't matter regardless. But I feel like if you go in with an open mind and you just enjoy the action scenes, the emotion, the beautiful cinematography, and the journey it takes you on, you'll find the movie fantastic. And i'm sure millions of people have. I sure did.
The problem is though, from a cosmological point of view, there wasn't a lot wrong with the science in the film.
electrocat1
When compared with Contact this film is far less grounded. That is is the perspective I judge this film by.
How is it less grounded?
What's not grounded in Contact? Even in the film version I not aware of anything.
With interstellar, love as part of cosmic force, ships falling out of orbit, the blight that necessitating us to leave, a wormhole that orbits Saturn, and creates a fringe science paradox.
The energy requirements to get a ship to Saturn in 2 years, capable of an impossible orbital maneuver, but yet has limited fuel supply as needed for the story.
Totally agree with you!
Who’s here from his Tenet trailer review?
Tenet was probably Nolan's worst film after this one. Both very disappointing
Interstellar gets props for having the best robots in years.
Jeremy don't do this to yourself man. You don't know quantum physics and general relativity more than Kip Thorne ! why have you become so ignorantly arrogant ? I would love to see you writing a script and making a film about general relativity one day ! I hope you return to your good old days .. best of luck !
Because you have to be an expert to criticize PS whether he is an expert or not he was right.
"I'd like to see *you* do better!"
-What Nolanfags Have Reduced Themselves To
***** You my are the man lmfao! I shall remember this quote.
This guy is so popular today
***** Holy shit. This so fucking much.
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Thanks Jeremy, this is basically how I felt and I'm so glad someone else isn't drooling over Interstellar!
I loved this movie
I really did
but then the bookshelf/quantifiable love speech...
And I puked in my mouth.
Huh? Those were some of the most beautiful parts of the movie!
tristan digert No, I agree, movie's fucking amazing until the ending, and boy does the ending suck.
Wesley Tomsky The ending is actually one of the best endings ever. Facts right there.
George Daugherty you want some help finding your marbles?
Wesley Tomsky I think you need help finding yours...
Who returned to this video after watching his tennet trailer reaction
What the movie shows is that every knowledge about the universe that mankind has is not enough to comprenhend it, what the movie showed was how we perceived, love is part of us.
Interstellar 9.9/10, a truly Masterpiece.
I can see why someone would want to defend this movie based on its visuals, but it's beyond me how so many apparently can't see the enormous flaws regarding plot, but especially dialogue. What a mess!
read the comments on this video, a lot of people will explain you this so called "plot holes" and prove you that the movie its not a mess, just the audience that didnt get the movie
This is duckin G hallatious
Maybe in terms of the science behind it and everything though I highly doubt that but I'd still argue there are problems in terms of overall execution of the movie. Certain elements that didn't quite work versus what did and what felt pointless or was there with little to no reason other than to have it there because "SCIENCE, BITCH!" Also characters, acting, story development, etc. etc.
Jeremy's right, this isn't gospel, this is not word of the church or a scientific textbook, it's a movie and there are certain elements that don't quite mesh well with the overall movie.
96DeathX wasnt talking about the science alone. Anne Hathaway's character, for example, he says it contradicts itself and that its a let down when she is overrun by her emotions and what not. If you pay attention to the moment she watches teh messages from her father (after they leave tsunami world) what can you see? Cooper was crying and was super fucking emotional because of his family growing and changing and missing him, and of course because of Murph not showing up, so many emotions! And her? she has a video of her father talking about science and that fucking poem all over again, and you can tell, for a brief moment, how fucking dissapointed she is, and for that moment i asure you she hated her father because she wanted to hear something else, mor elike "i miss you" or "i love you" and instead she has that shitty family.
To me her character always wanted to be loved and love back, but her father was just a scientist, and the only conection they had was science, not love. Thats why she wants to save the man she loves. But i wouldnt dare say Jeremy got that, he was too busy being negative and complaining about tropes and cliches and """plot holes""" he couldnt understand
Explain to me these "plot holes" right now please.
This is duckin G hallatious
And I wasn't talking about Anne Hathaway's character (though her, the actress, doesn't feel like she belongs in this film), there were characters to me, as well as Jeremy, who were sort of throwaway. Case in point, Tom. Did he add anything really to the film other than just being there? Oh, yeah he has a huge fit over his dad leaving them and he tries keeping them on the farm and keeping Murph out of the house but at that point in that scenario you're no longer a character, you're an obstacle. The two other explorers on the mission felt more like filler to me; like Star Trek red shirts you know they're only reason being there is to aid the main duo and then die.
Nolan really hitting you over the head with these concepts and ideas like relativity when they clash with the science and smarts of the characters. Really, why go down to the water planet at all except to showcase time relativity? It's a planet that's completely tide over, what did they expect to find? I didn't see any point to it at all. Same thing with Dr. Mann's character just being there as a humongous symbolism and metaphor for man. It really was starting to feel like pit stops in space to showcase all really impacting and meaningful stuff (and by impacting I mean hit you over the head with a novel) but that was it. Even if there was a point to them it still doesn't help how terribly unsubtle Nolan handled them to really make sure that audience knew what each trip meant. It's like the christian symbolism in Man of Steel, forced and contrived.
Also, to avoid this being too long because there's a lot more that I found problems with but one thing that makes me lost in the movie is how far Nolan went with it. Is it ambitious? Well...hard for me to gauge but sure, for the sake of argument it was pretty ambitious. However, there's a problem with that ambition where if you go to far with it you'll lose people because it's so grandiose and monumental that people will just lose interest and stop caring.
For instance: Take Star Wars (this isn't grandiose either or ambitious but it sort of helps showcase my issue with the film), before the prequels Anikan kills lord Sidious; what I think a lot of people saw when it first came out was an emotional attachment from a man who was thought to have lost that side in him regain that attachment to save his son. Then when the prequels happened it turned that whole idea and meaning into basically a large and fateful prophecy that Anakin was supposed to fulfil, no family connections, no emotional attachment, nope it was changed into a prophecy that would be fulfilled. Same thing here, it went so far out of this world (pun intended) that it landed into a story about fucking 5th dimension sci-fi absurdity that, for me, the emotional attachment was gone. The strong beginning between Cooper and his kids is just gone and the bond I formed with those characters and understanding where they were coming from was just lost. I thought the movie was much stronger before they left Earth because these were people that I actually cared about, in a Christopher Nolan movie of all things! Yeah he reunites with her after the whole thing and when she's dying and an old woman but...I still couldn't get connected. Sorry I have more emotional attachment between a father and his nine year old daughter than a father and his ninety year old daughter (I know she isn't nine in the film).
OK, that didn't work out at all and I wrote a lot more than I intended and I could go on even more with things like dialogue, execution of certain elements like the whole love thing, and more. In the end, the science may have been well researched and well executed but this isn't a science textbook, this is a movie, and there's more to worry about in it than fine tuning the scientific aspects of it. Also, no matter what, even if this film is an objectively good, nay, great film? That doesn't excuse the horrible and shitty personality of the community. This is why movies get overhyped and overrated is because of the community, more specifically: Nolan movies. This isn't directed towards you specifically, it's directed at everyone who is trying to make anyone who didn't understand the film or dislikes the film an idiot or what have you. Others have done it before and look what happened to them now, this may end up down that path as well but even worse if this is the mentality that people have over one man's opinion.
I am so glad you made this video Jeremy, because you touched on a lot of nags I had with this movie also!
Who else came here after the Tenet trailer reviews to find the comment he was talking about?
Jeremy is the only critic that his fans will always respect. He is all class, honesty and integrity. Things that are lacking in the UA-cam community and the online world.
not true unfortunately, did you read the comment section for his Interstellar review?
Nolanites would attack their wheelchair bound mother if they heard her say that she didn't like a Nolan film, I mean, they have to feel intellectually superior 24/7 365, no matter who it is. A 6 year old child saying he didn't like it because he didn't understand it, "ugh, you're so stupid, you probably like Bayformers don't you? Nolan is a genius director, haters, haters everywhere, ugh."
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yeah....Strangely enough I've seen other popular UA-cam people express true displeasure with Interstellar. People like Doug Walker and Movie-Bob Chipman and they haven't had the hate filled comments that poor Jeremy here has. They've had some but man, There was one comment from a guy who said he used like Jeremy but just because he didn't give Intersteller an Awesometacular, he now hates him. I mean really, Hating a guy just because he didn't love a movie as much as you did!? WTF!?
filipinowhiteboy Exactly. There's even people unsubscribing.
FUCK OPPOSING OPINIONS! AMIRITE?
***** It is ridiculous, people need to understand what reviews are about which are opinions. I don't watch Jeremy's reviews (or any reviewer) just to hear him agree with whatever I think. If he likes a movie that I do, that's great, if he doesn't, that's fine too, because that's the point.
I don't understand, why was it obvious that he was the ghost ? He didn't look like him or anything. What was the clue ? a guess ?
It wasn't obvious. Jeremy just wants to sound high and mighty because the trolls are getting to him so much.
***** Or he just thought it was obvious.
I didn't get it, but my friend behind me got it instantly and I can see why.
It's a movie about time and space travel that features a ghost with mathematical bent and a connection to the love of cooper's life. If you see enough sci-fi movies (and keep in mind that Jermey sees movies pretty much for a living now) it's not a huge leap to make if you ask yourself the question, "Who might this ghost be."
Esp when Murphy said the ghost was asking him to stay? It kind of writes itself.
I watch it the 2nd time to understand the movie more... And enjoyed it more. It just grows on you...
Neil Tyson said that the huge wave was plausible for a planet around a black hole or something
Atrijit Das did that asshole explain why they would go to Millers planet in the first place? My mind is just cringing how stupid these scientists were. They said 1hr equals 7 years on earth.. That means Miller has been on the water planet for a maximum time of 2 hours. That wouldn't be enough time to even set up an outpost much less acquire any significant data on the planet. I realized that almost instantly why couldn't these super smart space explorers get the light bulb when talking about relativity.? They were trying to save earth so time was of the essence. Why not go to the other planets first which would have taken alot less than 7 years. If the other 2 didn't work then come back to millers planet as a last resort. I just can't believe how these scientists didn't think that Miller had no time to do anything but take a crap on the planet. I mean what did they expect. If Miller was still alive they would have arrived and asked Miller if the planet was a good substitute and Miller would have been like "what the fuck guys, seriously? I've been on this planet for less than 2 hours, I haven't even set up shelter yet assholes." and while talking to Miller they would have wasted years and left with no data anyway because there sure as hell wasn't any
I couldn't handle this movie. I was constantly cringing at the "science" in it.
That's not how relativity works
That's not how dimensions work
That's not how black holes work
It made my brain hurt.
And yes, I did 'get' the movie.
This movie was suppose to question wat we actually know how space works
Jeff White
1. That is how relativity works. Dozens of scientists, including Neil deGrasse Tyson, back this up and accept this films represents relativity fairly accurate. You are dumb.
2. You don't know how dimensions work. There are only speculations, so this is plausible. You are dumber.
3. Nobody knows how black holes work. The only thing that maybe is implausible is McCounaghey surviving it, but this is a man-made black hole, so it's OK. You are the dumbest.
4. Buy painkillers. You are too dumb to explain.
You didn't get this movie.
In relativity, gravity affects the passage of time. The higher the force of gravity, the more the passage of time is warped. Satellites orbiting Earth are about 40 microseconds off per day in their aging compared to matter at surface level, since at Earth's surface we experience slightly more gravity than while in orbit of Earth. For a planet to be dense enough to produce the gravity required in order for a ratio of 1 hour to 7 years, it would pull in and crush any human that attempted to land on its surface, much less even get close. The effect is also relative to the proximity of the planet. The aging would accelerate or decelerate relative to your proximity of the gravitational source. You cannot merely be on a planet and have drastic time acceleration and then be off the planet and be back to normal time flow.
There are many theories about dimensions. 5 dimensional space was a popular concept, until M-theory was created in 1995. M-theory is 11 dimensional space. There is a lot of speculation, you are correct. But what is known is that to exist in the universe, you exist in all of it's dimensions. The speculation is on how we interact, and are affected by each dimension in which we exist. The 3 physical dimensions being up/down, left/right, and forward/back, and the 4th being time, you can not exist in just the up/down dimension, just as you can not exist solely in the 5th dimension.
I assume the dozens of physicist for whom you speak are colleagues of yours. Allow me to quote one of them.
Renowned US physicist Professor Kip Thorne, (the physicist who executive produced and consulted with Nolan about the science of Interstellar) did an interview with the science editor of The Telegraph where he said:
"Nolan’s idea is that ‘They’ are the descendants of humanity, who have learned to live in five dimensions and can reach through space and time.
It’s just nonsense of course. For a start space in ‘the bulk’ would be infinitesimally small. A human could not exist inside it."
Jeff White the ship attempting to land would also be speed up by the black hole, resulting in it and the planet having near the same speed, due to proper trajectory calculations, oh, and when they launched off the planet, they moved far away enough, the ship wasn't orbiting the planet, it was orbiting the black hole, on a trajectory that enabled it to stay relatively close to the planet for a period of time, Next, the physicist who worked on the film, missed one point, they were evolved humans, who couldn't have said they enhanced themselves to exist in such a small space, and no one know's for sure if the bulk/5h dimension is super small.
Iras Charles I totally concede that when creating science fiction, pretty much anything goes. Humans evolving into beings that may live in the bulk is no more ridiculous than pretty much any episode of X-Files, Star Trek, Dr. Who, etc.
The difference to me, is that those shows are aware that they are fantasy, while Interstellar took the advice of an actual scientist and then changed minor things while still trying to make it look legitimate.
I guess the best way that I can explain why it bugged me is this:
Imagine a mom talking baby gibberish to her children. She says "Goo-goo ga-ga-ga" and all that, and it doesn't bother me, because it's gibberish But when someone tries to appear intelligent while saying "irregardless" or "pecifically" instead of specifically or calling chess "chest" or misusing the word irony... that bothers me.
The fact that the ship remained close to the planet is actually the mistake. For the time difference to be that drastic, there would have to be a huge relative distance between the planet's proximity to the black hole, and the ship's distance to the black hole. It would be the black hole's gravity causing the time distortion, no planet could possibly create such a drastic effect. The movie, however, states that it was the planet causing it, and not the planet. Since it would be the black hole creating the warped passage of time, if the ship stayed in the same distance as the planet to the black hole, both would age at the same rate, since it is the black hole causing the gravity which causes the time distortion. For the movie to be correct, the planet would have to be creating more gravity than the black hole.
I know it's just a matter of opinion, and I'm not trying to insult anyone who enjoys this movie. When it comes to certain subjects, I am just very particular because they are constantly misunderstood and cinematic license perpetuates that misunderstanding.
The only people who didn't like interstellar are the people who couldn't understand it and the people who are too obsessed with awesome action constantly and shooting and guns to sit still long enough to watch it all.
The only people that liked it were the ones that didn't get, like he said the more you think the stupider and sappier it gets. its like 2001 a space odyssey that tries to clumsily explain what was supposed to be left unexplained. PS my favorite movie is donnie darko soooooo... ya.
I've seen Boyhood (which was a 3 hour slice-of-life drama) and Happy New Year (which was essentially a 3-hour Indian live action cartoon), and both movies were vastly more entertaining, better written, and better paced than this.
Also, please explain to me how one wouldn't "understand" this movie when it's written with so much exposition that the only way it could have been more obvious would have been to subtitle the entire movie in bright red letters like it's the Blurred Lines music video?
***** You liked Happy New Year? I'm sure you like michael bay movies too
itsme4you Three big problems with your shitty insult that you deem an "argument."
1. Comparing a Bollywood movie to Michael Bay would be like comparing Dennis Dugan with Jean Renoir. Two completely different directors of two completely different cultures.
2. Where Happy New Year was stupid but completely played with its stupidity and made it kind of fun and forgivable (kind of like The Fifth Element), Michael Bay's movies generally have a dark uniform tone that only highlights the massively stupid and offensive things his movies generally have.
3. If I liked Michael Bay movies, do you really think I'd even touch Boyhood with a 50-foot pole, yet alone watch and yet alone like it?
for me Michael Bay movies = Bollywood movies (98%) = Shit
"You just didn't understand it!" Wow really guys? Way to sound arrogant.
I think you're acting a bit arrogant for your audience here.
He's pissed cause the movie is overrated and people are attacking him for not praising the movie. I feel the same way, a lot of the stuff in the movie was BS for me, last 30 mins where Matthew is flying between bookcases were so WTF. I guess it's the fact that the movie up to that point has been pretty much realistic, with a bit of a stretch, but the last 30 mins go straight into magic territory.
Nina Davidovic Yes, the end they got a bit carried away. But I'm willing to look past it just based on the movie as a whole. I love movies that take place in outer space. Check out the trailer for "LIFE". Looks like it might be pretty sweet.
siqpuppie I did, but it looks very boring to me. I feel like such a douche saying that haha but it's really just those 2 movies I wasn't blown away by (well, by the trailer). But I adore Jake so I will definitely see that movie. I liked The Martian very much and I loved Arrival. I am not a huge fan of Amy Adams but I felt so disappointed when she wasn't nominated for an Oscar. Also, Interstellar was really good up til the last 30 mins and it looks amazing throughout.
Nina Davidovic This year at the oscars is affirmative action in action. Its the year of black people basically. No one else really has a chance. lol
Wait a second
Did everyone really guess that the ghost thing was Mcconaughey in the first place or am I just that fucking dumb?
If you are then I'm to. I had no idea :(
Must be a trailer thing, I actively avoided any but the teaser trailer. When the "ghost" thing happened I thought it would turn out to be wormhole aliens messing with us. Later on it became more obvious it would be Cooper, but not right away in the beginning.
Same man I didn't c it coming lol
i think 90 percent of the people didnt see it coming maybe some did when murf said the biengs said to stay or when the shelf fell.
Didn't see it coming either. As far as I know, majority of the people didn't.
Okay, okay hold up... I'm just gonna put this out here since it's a SPOILER discussion and I feel like I was the only one who saw this afterwards, but ... Didn't Matt's character Cooper explain after realizing the blackhole was a bridge to communicate the "quantum data" to Murphy he discovers that it was actually created by an "evolved US" (easter egg to 2001) and not a fifth-dimensional species? To me, that made the movie for me. I mean, am I wrong? Did I not interpret the discussion between him and TARS correctly? (Sidenote: TARS = fucking awesome!)
We are lead to believe they are future humans in Interstellar. In 2001 they are not humans nor extra dimensional. The story would work better if the were though instead of using a time travel paradox that is fringe science. If you want a film based on that concept by all means go there but make the main focus not just a plot device.
Life will never evolve to another dimension, nothing in natural selection would allow for it. We are naturally bound to our 3 dimensions and time. However in this movie that isn't an issue to me as we could master the knowledge to interact with as demonstrated by Cooper in the film.
You're half right. The fifth dimensional species was supposedly humans from the future than hand learned to essentially bend physics into a pretzel
Well what I was alluding to when I stated that the Easter egg was an evolved race of human beings was the monolith.
I actually liked the story because it felt real seeing his family practically grow up and reach a point of giving up. However, when you state that a fringe science element could have been the more conclusive focus of the second act; yes, that would have been a more realistic approach.
I think this movie needs time to freshen, much like Alien, 2001 or even Primer if you want to go that far. I really liked it and forgave alot of its issues for the fact that it was exactly what I believed it was; a movie.
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No the monolith are created by ET's in 2001, though I'm not sure if that as clear in film version. I've only watched the movie once ages ago.
It's a subjective experience and as such I can appreciate what you are saying. I just got no emotion vibe from this film. While it didn't feel like 3 hours, it still felt rushed, trying to do too much.
I loved Prometheus, so if the context is right I have no problem overlooking stuff. I just couldn't do it with Kip writing this. Never heard of Prime have to look into that.
***** Yup, you're right lol The writers patched their own time travel paradox with a fifth dimensional, evolved, version of the human race. Since they're fifth dimensional beings, they wouldn't be subject to the same cause/effect relationship that causes the usual time travel paradox for us (i.e. how could Cooper set himself up to set himself up to set himself up to set himself up to set himself up...etc. to go to space)
I don't understand why the ship needed the huge rocket on earth but can fly around independent of it on every other planet.
Good point.
I guess that the module launched into space at first contained much more than the ship alone?
did it carry the endurance by chance?
to conserve the ship's fuel and maximize fuel efficiency.
Yeah, Wayne Enterprises would have handled that shit.
Shuttup!!!! Superman is gunna kick ur ass!!!!!!
actually no.. I thought the "ghost" was some alien thingy or an anomaly... the only way u would know its her "dad" would be if:
1-you guessed
2-you read spoilers
3-you did not but you lied to sound cool
Jeremy, the waves were that big because the gravity from the black hole was affecting the waves. It wasn't that the ocean was 3 feet deep, it was that they were actually walking on the bottom of the ocean floor, and all the water was being pulled up in one massive wave.
Maybe it's just because I'm a religious guy, but I had absolutely no problems with the whole "quantifiable love" thing.
I felt the same way. And what's wrong with a theme like Love in a film? I'd rather have it then another revenge flick. Seeing the way society's spiraling out of control, I think we need more films with "quantifiable love" shenanigans running around haha.
GPMM213 Right on, bro
In part love is quantifiable, it depends a lot on your perception of the meaning of the word “love”, your upbringing and personal experiences, and the paradigm formulated from such.
Love is quantifiable in a sense. Chemical reactions in the brain formulate a basic gamut of human emotions. Happiness, anger, depression, etc… can all be simplified to basic chemical formulas. People suffering from depression, anxiety disorders, and other mental illnesses are given psychotropic drugs to fix “imbalances” in the brain, in hopes that their emotions would return to “normal”. (I put quotes around these words because, not only is it impossible to actually define “normal” emotions, but also, if one thought they were able to, what gives that one person the right or ability to define such a range experiences and emotions for the human race in its entirety). “Normal”, is as variable as personal experience.
Do animals fall in love? I feel love requires complexities of the human brain, an ability to associate a thought or feeling with such an infinite number of possibilities, not simply reproduction or pure attractiveness. This suggests that there is a certain aspect to human beings that allows them to fall in love and to understand the concept. An undeniable human essence if you will. Personality and individualism define all humans differently from one another. Many creatures do not posses this quality, this essence of humanity that defines us and allows us to call ourselves human. This pride in humanity is perhaps what is most hurt when one argues that love is quantifiable.
I thought the fifth dimensional beings was actually Matthew McConaughey in the black hole
Yeah I'm pretty sure they assumed that the fifth dimensional beings were some sort of alien species, whereas the end of the movie shows they don't exist, it was actually just Matthew McConaughey.
nope
+Jake Assimilate no. it's the advanced humans that are the humans that got on the station just years later,they've mastered space and time so they set the black hole up for cooper to send the gravity theory to murph.
Actually, they were 6 dimensional beings. They saw time in a 3 dimensional way. We currently live in a 4 dimensional world. 3 physical dimensions. 1 dimension of time.
+FIIINGE well, it's less of a fourth dimension and more that space and time are intertwined and space is 4 dimensional. time is just the change of things. with a simple 3 dimensions, nothing changes. therefore time is more just a part of space. 4 dimensions
The plot holes in the movie are almost negligible. I think people need to learn how to enjoy a movie more than how to scrutinize a film for its minor plot flaws. If it gets its point across then what does it matter. I thought it was a great film with some great food for thought and morals on humanity. Because in the end, the future humans are basically gods that could've handed humans the secret to unlocking the gravity problem thus rendering the entire film nonsensical. The plot is really just an excuse to make an extremely ambitious scifi film based on "almost" real theory and some minor ideas of philosophy and morality and deliver it in an accessible manner. Which I think for the most part it succeeds in doing. I get that you think the movie is imperfect, and it is. I'm just sick of seeing people scrutinize every negative aspect of a film. Movie reviews are a joke now. You check one site and they have a high average, while others have a terrible average. And the critique reviews sometimes do not match viewer reviews. What's the point of looking at reviews anymore if they don't help anybody decide on what movie is worth their money. For me Interstellar - 9/10, will buy on bluray.
And their r far more noticeable plot holes in the Dark Knight Rises, and he gave it Awesometacular.
I've never had difficulty watching Jeremy discuss a movie but boy was this rough. I felt like I was watching CinemaSins but without the humor. I can't think of a spoiler review where Jeremy went into detail about what he DIDN'T like about the movie almost the entire time. I know Jeremy ultimately recommends this movie but hearing all this negativity from him was brutal. Jeremy's opinion is one I respect more than any other critic so I will never turn my back on him because his views didn't line up with mine. He's a Christopher Nolan fan just like me so I wouldn't be surprised to discover he struggled twice as much making this video as I did watching it. No Nolan fan wants to say a movie made by him can't make his/her top ten list when the year isn't even over yet. That's the type of realization that cuts like a knife.
nolan is GREAT at making movies that make dumb people feel smart.
a 10000000000000000000000000x yes. that is exactly what he makes. he knows that there are a lot of dumb people out there that just want to feel smart. not be smart, god forbid. so he is cashing in.
nolan can make a great movie that has really intelligent plot points, but this movie was so bad. the reason for this is nolan can't do love or happiness, he just can't.
also you two sound really pertinacious
Joe Bereta said that too
***** If you're just doing space opera, you can do whatever you want. If you are attempting to do science fiction, get the science right. It's not that hard to look up some facts, and on a movie that costs this much, not calling a physicist or an astronomer is just lazy. It's not a hipsterism to want your hard sci-fi movies to actually be smart. I'm beginning to think that calling someone a hipster may be though.
Oh my god you are soo fucking accurate!
Jeremy you pissed me off with this video
Has someone counted the amount of times he said Quantifiable in this video?
Ha
7?
It's over 9000!