I liked the first two parts of this series. This guy no doubt is a respected expert and a good climber. It's a pity that so much of this video is an advert for his product. As a natural cynic his obvious commercialism started to make me doubt the accuracy of his science. Pity.
Advertising products is not something that sprouted directly out of hell. Not every advertised product is a scam. Advertisements can be very helpful when their products are genuinely useful and not made with the sole intent to squeeze the money out of our pockets into the sellers'. Advertisements have the chance of making a certain group aware of something that might potentially be of big use. They also might not. So even though I don't have any particular opinion on this particular product Eric was advertising, I do not agree with your generalised aversion towards advertisements. To the very least, and if you are in doubt, his video can encourage you to undertake your own literature review regarding helpful nutrition for tendon regeneration and to come to your own conclusion. And for this, I am grateful for him talking about his product.
Most of the climbers in my generation (90s) or even now are trained by Eric Horst thru his books. We can't thank him enough. He's a sports science genius.
So true - his Training for Climbing book was what I used to create my first regimented training and I am honored to have him on my channel! Thanks for your comment :)
These were all very helpful, my husband recently was having tendon issues in his finger and then a small injury so we watched all 3 and we had a lot of our questions answered so thank you!
Great information - thank you! I always have a smoothie before I go climbing, and I add collagen! I knew I was doing the right thing, thank you for confirming what I'm doing and giving me my "Why"! You are amazing!
I really like how Eric connects diet and how the connective tissues absorbed nutrients. I am somebody that as he puts it “waist money” on nutritional products, my diet is out of balance. Eric does a great job of explaining how and why I am “wasting money” not that the products I am using are poor, my imbalanced is why they are ineffective. Thank you
I’m glad you enjoyed the video! I also thought it was interesting about the nutrient intake and the need for a balanced diet - thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience :)
Yeah, it gets super mixed up. Collagen research isn't that good, but it certainly doesn't hurt and it's quite cheap. (Don't buy from his brand, just get the cheapest stuff from amazon).
I think we should expand in the pork idea, there’s reactions to it we should understand instead of throwing the isolate into the body I’d say. It’s just a opinion great content 🤙🏾
I appreciate this video series. I'll be looking to use a squeeze ball or hang on a bar to help my recovery. Previously I had just used a gel heat pad which I think helps a little but this will be great to add to that
The only reason why I can do the things I can do while I gave hEDS is because of my careful diet. And I cannot eat pork. I react to it. Cannot eat most regular supermarket meat in fact (due to a corn allergy). And since EDS is genetic, my body does not form the connective tissue correctly. So no matter what I eat it will not actually fix it - but the diet does help me be pain free in the joints. I am 51 by the way. And all of my joints are still very stretchy + hypermobile!
Good info. Was adding my collagen supplement to my morning and post climbing shakes but will probably try and move it to the hour before mark. Great video!
I've already noticed a big difference while using Collagen 20-30 minutes before climbing so I'm guessing that'll help you too. Thanks for your comment and I look forward to hearing how it goes!
@@SendEdition knee has been a bit tweaked so I've taken the week off but I have noticed massive improvements in my skin! My arms used to be super rough and bumpy, and nothing I did really made a difference. My arms are nearly clear and looking like my regular skin for the first time in my life. It's wild! That and my flexibility is really improving and stretching just feels easier.
I did a small amount of research. Eric doesn't seem to have any medical credentials. However, he does seem well researched on the topic. I would definitely take his word with a grain of salt. With that said... I like the first two parts, but for most people supplements aren't necessary. They aren't a good replacement for a well balanced diet either. They should be used for special circumstances, such as a nutritional deficiency due to a medical issue. There isn't a huge amount of research about collagen supplements for climbers. However, there is a lot of research about how good a diverse diet is for anybody. I don't have credentials either, but I am pulling this information from my nutrition class. Take nutritional advice from registered dietitians.
Bahah seeing him advertise his product as the superior collagen on the market…his product is no different from any other collagen peptide or hydrolized collagen as long as it’s sourced from bovine hides, marine collagen is no good, and ‘super collagen’ isn’t a thing it’s just ‘collagen’. Great video though with good info
Smart marketing though what can ya say. I also consider buying his product over others too just to support him since he’s provided so much useful free information to climbers
I was convinced that I could benefit from collagen supplementation but then I realized that I already have a high protein diet and that, for example, a single egg has more collagen in it than a scoop of the collagen supplement...am I wrong?
Egg whites have one of the amino acids in collagen. I think you can create a diet around collagen (and make sure that the nutrients can actually be absorbed) but like what Eric said in the interview, if your diet and exercise practice is lacking, then a college supplement isn't the fix - you need to fix your nutrition and exercise first.
This is a really good video. Yeah, it's an endorsement for Collagen supplements, but the supplements are good. Eric has been in climbing training for may years. I trust his expertise. Thanks for sharing!
Our bodies can synthesize gly and pro - why do we need to ingest? I love Eric's training for climbing, but find the supplement pitches (his own product) super sketchy with poorly supported research.
I want to believe the collagen hype, but the data does not support the claim that collagen supplementation produces significant results for athletes under 60. It does show some evidence of greater recovery and maintenance of tendons for elderly subjects. Eric seems legit, but he has a conflict of interest with his brand of supplements.
If it's a "nutritional video" and there's some dude trying to sell a product I just assume the entire video is a scam. Collagen is good for tendons but I don't really value the dudes words.
I liked the first two parts of this series. This guy no doubt is a respected expert and a good climber. It's a pity that so much of this video is an advert for his product. As a natural cynic his obvious commercialism started to make me doubt the accuracy of his science. Pity.
Advertising products is not something that sprouted directly out of hell. Not every advertised product is a scam. Advertisements can be very helpful when their products are genuinely useful and not made with the sole intent to squeeze the money out of our pockets into the sellers'. Advertisements have the chance of making a certain group aware of something that might potentially be of big use. They also might not. So even though I don't have any particular opinion on this particular product Eric was advertising, I do not agree with your generalised aversion towards advertisements.
To the very least, and if you are in doubt, his video can encourage you to undertake your own literature review regarding helpful nutrition for tendon regeneration and to come to your own conclusion. And for this, I am grateful for him talking about his product.
There's also just whole foods that are high in collagen. Bone broth comes to mind.
@@blankboy2137 Chicken Feet are supposed to be a good source too. Not something I've tried.🙂
There’s not great evidence for collagen. Most people who promote it do so because they have financial interests in promoting it.
Most of the climbers in my generation (90s) or even now are trained by Eric Horst thru his books. We can't thank him enough. He's a sports science genius.
So true - his Training for Climbing book was what I used to create my first regimented training and I am honored to have him on my channel! Thanks for your comment :)
These were all very helpful, my husband recently was having tendon issues in his finger and then a small injury so we watched all 3 and we had a lot of our questions answered so thank you!
I’m so glad the videos were helpful! I hope that your husband gets better soon :)
Thanks for the info! That was very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Great information - thank you! I always have a smoothie before I go climbing, and I add collagen! I knew I was doing the right thing, thank you for confirming what I'm doing and giving me my "Why"! You are amazing!
I really like how Eric connects diet and how the connective tissues absorbed nutrients. I am somebody that as he puts it “waist money” on nutritional products, my diet is out of balance. Eric does a great job of explaining how and why I am “wasting money” not that the products I am using are poor, my imbalanced is why they are ineffective. Thank you
I’m glad you enjoyed the video! I also thought it was interesting about the nutrient intake and the need for a balanced diet - thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience :)
I liked this series, I just wish he said more than "pork and my product." Thank you for interviewing though, the exercise episode was my favorite.
I’m glad you enjoyed the series!
Glycine and proline aren’t essential amino acids like leucine or valine,the body can manufacture them
Love Eric, always selling :)
Cannot underestate how skeptical I am accepting research and advice from someone formulating and selling a supplement. Sorry.
Yeah, it gets super mixed up.
Collagen research isn't that good, but it certainly doesn't hurt and it's quite cheap. (Don't buy from his brand, just get the cheapest stuff from amazon).
the only difference in his powder is there’s vitamin c included. Just get a vitamin c supp on the side and you’re good.
I think we should expand in the pork idea, there’s reactions to it we should understand instead of throwing the isolate into the body I’d say. It’s just a opinion great content 🤙🏾
I appreciate this video series. I'll be looking to use a squeeze ball or hang on a bar to help my recovery. Previously I had just used a gel heat pad which I think helps a little but this will be great to add to that
The only reason why I can do the things I can do while I gave hEDS is because of my careful diet. And I cannot eat pork. I react to it. Cannot eat most regular supermarket meat in fact (due to a corn allergy).
And since EDS is genetic, my body does not form the connective tissue correctly. So no matter what I eat it will not actually fix it - but the diet does help me be pain free in the joints.
I am 51 by the way. And all of my joints are still very stretchy + hypermobile!
so baisically eat collagen and promote blood flow to fingers by light exercise
Greate comment!!!
Good info. Was adding my collagen supplement to my morning and post climbing shakes but will probably try and move it to the hour before mark. Great video!
I've already noticed a big difference while using Collagen 20-30 minutes before climbing so I'm guessing that'll help you too. Thanks for your comment and I look forward to hearing how it goes!
@@SendEdition knee has been a bit tweaked so I've taken the week off but I have noticed massive improvements in my skin! My arms used to be super rough and bumpy, and nothing I did really made a difference. My arms are nearly clear and looking like my regular skin for the first time in my life. It's wild! That and my flexibility is really improving and stretching just feels easier.
Besy and cheapest way....is to make and keep bone broth in one's fridge -that's well-rounded folks. Free pro advise.
collagen is in a lot of food. you do not need a supplement especially if you already eat meat and fish,
I did a small amount of research. Eric doesn't seem to have any medical credentials. However, he does seem well researched on the topic. I would definitely take his word with a grain of salt. With that said...
I like the first two parts, but for most people supplements aren't necessary. They aren't a good replacement for a well balanced diet either. They should be used for special circumstances, such as a nutritional deficiency due to a medical issue.
There isn't a huge amount of research about collagen supplements for climbers. However, there is a lot of research about how good a diverse diet is for anybody.
I don't have credentials either, but I am pulling this information from my nutrition class. Take nutritional advice from registered dietitians.
References?
It helps in elbow pain
Bahah seeing him advertise his product as the superior collagen on the market…his product is no different from any other collagen peptide or hydrolized collagen as long as it’s sourced from bovine hides, marine collagen is no good, and ‘super collagen’ isn’t a thing it’s just ‘collagen’. Great video though with good info
Smart marketing though what can ya say. I also consider buying his product over others too just to support him since he’s provided so much useful free information to climbers
I support him for that reason as well as trusting I’m getting something good
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How about buying the cheaper collagen to support the people offering collagen for a better price?
Then you can still send him money.
@@TheJustinConnor Bruh, it's literally just collagen.
His has vitamin C, which actually might be more important than the collagen itself. You can easily get vit c from food or supp for cheap tho
The suppliment shows in the video...can anyone other then climbers take it ? like body builders?
Have you thought of Venture funding for Fizzy Vantage?
I just eat Jello before my tendon workouts! Also use a chicken complete collagen product.
Great!
I was convinced that I could benefit from collagen supplementation but then I realized that I already have a high protein diet and that, for example, a single egg has more collagen in it than a scoop of the collagen supplement...am I wrong?
Egg whites have one of the amino acids in collagen. I think you can create a diet around collagen (and make sure that the nutrients can actually be absorbed) but like what Eric said in the interview, if your diet and exercise practice is lacking, then a college supplement isn't the fix - you need to fix your nutrition and exercise first.
Any suggetion for tfcc injury also wrist click problem?
There's cheaper collagen pulver on amazon than his stuff.
Can you buy that product in the UK?
This is a really good video. Yeah, it's an endorsement for Collagen supplements, but the supplements are good. Eric has been in climbing training for may years. I trust his expertise. Thanks for sharing!
Our bodies can synthesize gly and pro - why do we need to ingest?
I love Eric's training for climbing, but find the supplement pitches (his own product) super sketchy with poorly supported research.
I want to believe the collagen hype, but the data does not support the claim that collagen supplementation produces significant results for athletes under 60. It does show some evidence of greater recovery and maintenance of tendons for elderly subjects. Eric seems legit, but he has a conflict of interest with his brand of supplements.
what was that, 10 product placements. cha ching
wtf eating food is "not realistic" so let me eat powder
No peers to that product, because it's his lol. I'm sure there's plenty of decent competitors products. Great talk otherwise.
If it's a "nutritional video" and there's some dude trying to sell a product I just assume the entire video is a scam. Collagen is good for tendons but I don't really value the dudes words.