Hands down, the BEST Rectifier I've ever played.....
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My first nice amp was an OG block letter 5150 my dad got me when I was a teenager in 1996. We were kinda poor but my dad and I both loved Eddie and I was getting good at the guitar so he went for it. Solid guy. A few years later in college I thought it was cooler to have a Marshall so I traded it for a JCM 2000 TSL 60w. Yeah... 60 w. I'm a total douche. I still have that stupid TSL. Now that I'm the same age as my dad was then, and he's gone from the earth, that TSL reminds me of how cool my dad was and how stupid I was. I'm a doctor now and very grateful so have a little money so bought all the 5150s. I wish I could give them all to my dad. RIP dad. I know you know that I was as stupid as you were once.
Hey the TSL rips too man!!
The 90s dual rectos were things of legend. And while I still like the amp - and it sound super unique... not sure if I'd ever want to have one anymore.
Hello, this is my first video here. Great job. I am a bass player, and when the band came off tour for the last time, my guitarist needed money to start his new path in life. so I thought i was helping him with buying his ?1997? Dual Rec. I had only ever heard it on large stages. We had a case maker design flight cases, so we didnt have to take them out of the case. We just removed the front lid/front and unsealed a small plate in the back to plug into. Let me tell you, he did me the solid by selling it to me. Holy S#!+ ! I have had duals paired with the oversized cabs 8-10 times in my studio prior to this point. This THING is a monster! It stays inside the stag/flight case with the front off. The low end is so HUGE yet it sounds so translucent with a face melting sound. Your gutz RuMbLe. Now, saying that when I take it out of the case it sounds like every other oversized Mesa cab. If you can recreate this in any of your own studios, this is a MUST DO!!! But what do I know, I'm just a bass player. ;) Nice channel BTW. Keep it up!
Yes, I sold my 99 Triple Recto. Most amazing sounding recto I've ever played and only heard a few on youtube with the same mojo this thing had. Sold it along with the oversize 4x12 cab before I went to college and regretted it every day of my adult life.
Yes. My Laney 4x12 cab and 5150 head from the 90s.
Sounds dope, never saw one of those before. Is the one you're using in your recto the standard or reverse wired? Site doesn't talk about anything but Marshalls.
Standard wire. We’ve recently updated our compatibility page to include this one (more models to follow as well).
@@LegendaryTonesnice! Do you have an European distributor/seller where I can buy the mod?
@@LegendaryTones Awesome getting a reply from the source. Thanks
Man this is absolutely amazing!! Wish I still had my Rectifier. Would be curious if this would work on the OR15? Feel like that amp would also benefit with the extra headroom in the preamp
I traded a legit JCM800 from the mid 80s for an Orange TH30 with matching cab. Functionally it was a good trade cause the Marshall didn't chug enough for me, but now they're worth like $3500
That sounds surprisingly awesome
The sd 1 sounds the best with it imo
Notice the crate bv cab don’t sleep on the blue voodoo line!
I am 50 and have been playing for 40 years. I lost count of the number of times that I have re-bought gear. God bless those that can always predict what they will regret selling, but for the rest of us I would suggest that accidents happen.
nice tone ! it seems like the mod is introducing a lot of hum on the amp !
My Randall RG100 with the carpet. That thing was EVIL. Paid $100 for it. Sold it for $200 and thought I was hot shit lol.
To my ears, that mod pushes the Rectifier sound in a more a SLO-100 like direction. Pretty incredible!
Also, what pickups are in the Balaguer? They sound awesome!
I’m pretty sure he has Seymour Duncan distortions in that
Funny thing is the preamp of the rectifier is based on SLO's preamp
I dunno, I reckon I get good mileage out of a ten band mxr EQ in the FX loop. Turns any amp into any amp.
I think it all really depends on what the other guitar player is using along with you tbh.
I hope this can be used in a Tremoverb head.
Is it 2 channels? Yes it is. So yes it can
OMG I just realized that you have a Crate out Nice!
HA! Just got a Mr. Scary 2 weeks ago lol - need to get a Rectifier now lol
Make sure it's an older 2 channel or the Mod won't work
Cool video.
Do you know if this mod works with Rectoverbs (50watters)?
Will that Mr scary work with a single rectifier series 1? Kinda wanna try it
What is the pedal 3rd from the left on the amp? Thanks
Would be cool to try this with a Stiletto or a Roadster…
this is just the best video
Would this work with a single rectifier series 2?
It seem to increase the noise floor quite significantly of the amp ,right ? Or is that simple the fact of the simple recording setup?
I think the extra preamp gain does that for you.
A Fortin Zuul in the effects loop will solve that for you.
Simple as adding a noise gate. That simple 😅😅
@@Epochstudios one that you can run in the fx loop ad the hum from the preamp needs to be fixed there in the fx, also having one in front will help.
Hence something like the Zuul will help there
I surmise a future increase in prices on Hot Mods/Mr. Scary Mods and older Rectos. 😂
Did you really say “Poopy Doopy”? More poopy doopy please
dude you're the fucking best metal channel for gear and tones on youtube, simples as that... keep going man
Anything called Mr. Scary is guaranteed to deliver.
Also, when playing makes you smile huge and smile, it's crazy joy.
Now time to see if it’ll work with the Badlander and Stiletto 😈
It works with the badlander but not the Stiletto
What up fellow erieite? Lmao Yo I love this mod I have same version mesa head chrome plate not blacked out. I’ll be getn my hands on a mr.scary mod asap. I’m so AMPED now can’t wait. Thanks bro Randy /BluntForce/LED.
17:22 sd-1 wins hands down. that open C was too good with the sd-1.
As soon as you put the MOD in it, we start hearing and feeling your joy of playing it. Cool!
That’s got a lot more growl and bark than it originally did. Wow. I’ll have to try this!
Oh god. I happen to have a Hot Mod V2 and a Rev G Dual. You know what's going to happen right after this video.
Alors tu as testé ? ça fonctionne dans le rev G ?
Also interested in this, I have an old Solano hot mod but I think it does not work on master volume amplifiers. That’s why you need a reverse hot mod like the one on this video, right?
@@vanespedals1023 Well, I know the Legendary Tones Hot Mod was inspired by the Soldano unit, but I don't know how similar they are. As far as the LT one, for a Recto you need the Standard wiring, not the reverse. I tried it today and it works great!
@@TOTO-nr8vu I can't speak French, but yes, it works great on the Rev G!
@@Stinger_1995 thanks
Looks like you have the Les Paul on the neck pickup? Doesn't sound like it though...
Uh yea.... anyone who's had an addiction will tell you they hawked their favourite shit. Sold my Marshall JVM 410Head and the 4x12 cab. Can't remember how much I paid for it but I sold it for peanuts when i was hooked on junk. Now I have a JVM205 that does me just fine sitting on a Marshall vertical 2x12, a Gibson Slash Signature les paul, 2021 50's Gold top and 2019 Jr. and lecture kids about the dangers of drugs. NOT EVEN ONE TIME KIDS.
Great advice brutha! 👍 been there myself and now am building my own recording studio and close to opening
I’m a huge fan of Mesa amps. I’ve got a Mark V and a TC 100. I had a single rectifier a while back and didn’t quite bond with it at the time - looking back I never should have sold it
Fun fact, Jeff Loomis used a rectoverb in Nevermore
How do you like that TC 100?
How about the ksr modded rectifier? That sounded amazing 🤩!! This definitely sounds very mean with legendary tones mod.
Have you played one. I was thinking about sending my tremoverb to KSR to hot rod it.
Where I live I’m lucky if a 5150 iii comes into my guitar center twice a year. So doubtful I ever will.
Have you heard the Hermansson modded rectifiers? My God, man!
God I wish I still had my dual rec. This sounds great
Do you guys think Recs have a "banging a hollow tube" sound on the chugs? With too thumpy a fundamental note chug tone thing going on?
No
It is one of the fullest, most punchy,aggressive and articulate HI gain amps ever made. Why do you think so many companies try and copy it? Why it's the most recorded hard rock and Metal amp in history? There is a reason for this. It's because it is one of the best amps ever made...period. I Rank my Multi watt Dual Rectifier right up there with my KSR Colossus H-100. Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifiers are super special. Gotta play one to understand. Yes they very. Some are good. Some are great, and some have something indescribable and special going on. That's why they are one of the most coveted of all time
You can't go wrong for a dual rec for 800$
I had a PRS S2 McCarty 594 I sold when I bought the PRS core model. I had upgraded the S2 with 57/07 Pickups. I miss that guitar so much. I didn't like Core model and traded it for a Gibson ES335. I tried to buy it back and the guy had already traded it .
I wonder what the Legendary Tones modules sound like in an amp where they wouldn't be a good fit?
Dude! That thing is fucking sick! Now I must find one...
Did you demo this using the Neck Pickup?? Tight Neck pickup Lol!
WHER DO I BUY MR SCARYYYYYY OOOOOOO
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Appreciate you, my dude
probably still has the old Schumacher Transformers the earlier revisions used, aye?
check the stamp on the transformers, I'd not be surprised if it's the EIA 606 number
*Mesa rectifiers have become the staple sound of metal, and you mentioned the real culprit above all others which is being scooped and having some grain or rasp to it.*
For at least the last 20 years, every amp and every mod I've employed is scooping mids, having a lot of bass, moderate treble and a good amount of grit and rasp, but being I'm primarily a solid-state guy, it's a PITA to tame the high even order harmonics that semiconductors are plagued with.
*This is why digital is certain to take over, they've basically nailed tube fizz and zing, and the chip architecture being manufactured has finally been adapted for asymmetrical clipping and resolving at least some of the high even order harmonic content.*
I'm a bit late to the game, but my s.s. analog designs created from the ground up still do it significantly better than the most expensive digital gear around outside of something like a Kemper.
*The mod you added to resolve this amp's failures is relative to something I'm designing and building using solid-state, but perfectly confident mine will do it way better and for any type of amp technology.*
Ive been saying it the entire time, the 2ch Rectifiers just sound in my opinion that much better then the 3ch heads. That's why I still own a 2ch Triple Rectifier head.
“Unfortunately it’s a rev g” lmao what?! Rev G is the fucking king lol
Hey Kyle!
Have you considered the possibility of a series of videos looking at pedal-type amplifiers like the Blackstar Amped 3, the BluGuitar Amp 1 Iridium, etc. and comparing them to conventional tube amps?
If somebody has the right collection of tube amps to make an informed comparison, that's you man.
Love this idea
Yea that's just it though: HOW LONG DID IT TAKE YOU on the dual rec to find YOUR sound. I used to hate having to get stuck with a Dual Rec at rehearsal factory because it would take half the fucking band practice to get a dirty tone I liked. It was either too heavy (Don't play metal) or not enough. I was looking for an in-between like the Slash Sound or the Brown Sound. Dirty with not too much bass, hardly any mids, and gain at 5. SOUNDED LIKE SHIT. I will say the Dual Rec has an awesome sounding Clean channel. Way better than my Marshall JVM
I sold a Triple Rectifier and a DigiTech DHP-55 wich I both baught in 1993, in 2003...stupid I was...
LOL regret over selling gear, yeah I got that. In 2001 I owned a USA Washburn Dimebolt.... and like a fucking idiot, I sold it. I can not express in words how pissed I am at myself.
17:30 were you "soaked in torment" while recording those riffs ?
This amp sounds like an All Out War.
Joke aside : sick Recto tones
I regret trading my full stacj 5150 for a damn motocross yz250 on which brine my knee by the way....
The drop C balaguer sounded insane.
You didn't mention how much you payed to get it back.
Is this thing why your old multi watt is listed on reverb?
Not trolling but I think the amp was much tighter and clearer before you put in that scary thing. Muddy after
I wonder why it says this on the motorcityguitars website?
Popular amps that the HMV2/Lynch Mod DO NOT WORK with include: Marshall Silver Jubilee series, Marshall Origin series, Marshall DSL/TSL series, Mesa Boogie amps, and Hiwatt.
That was an old description from our own website. Before we validated this amp. We’ll let MCG to update as well.
Nothing beats the sound of a properly dialed in rectifier.
I think you misspelled Engl Savage
@@insertanynameyouwant5311ehhhhh
@@insertanynameyouwant5311you mean Fryette ultralead?
@@realtruenorth eww absolutely no
Btw Mark series is better than rectifier, if we need to choose from Mesa
@@insertanynameyouwant5311 Fryette spanks anything from ENGL all day. I've had both and as much as the Savage ii sounds brutal, it can't hang with Fryette amps.
Does anyone know if this will work with a single rectifier 50? I heard there's some kind of adapter or something you need
the hermansson modded rectifiers are the best rectifier sound on the planet. misha mansoor,fredrik thordendal, and tramonti all have them.
By far and away the most high gain amp hiss I have heard from any of your videos. I'm guessing that's why you're talking so loud.
That thing sounds brutal without the scary already
Why you say alot of people hate the two knobs loop? Not all dual rectifier are the same?? Im about to buy one but look different in the back from yours!!
Scaring the shit out of a bad tone is always a good thing👻💥🎸
If your Mesa is not an older 2 channel recto this mod will not work. Email legendary tones yourself to see what is and is not compatible
Sounds really good but the noise floor also went way up. Doesn't seem like a reasonable trade-off.
Sounds brutal , heavy , grinding , mean 😦
There are few amps that sound as brutal as a rectifier with a boost. It just always annoyed me that my Roadster always sounded flubby without the boost so I spent more time turning knobs than playing. In addition to the sound, without the boost it was also lacking that awesome feel when palm muting like you are taming a beast, which gets loose when you stop palm muting. It was just always the same level. With the boost it sounded absolutely crushing though, much like the tone in your video. Sometimes when I hear a great rectifier tone I do regret selling it.
What is the low frequency hum in the background is that a normal tube amp thing
I wonder if the hot mod works in a soldano or jet city. Rectifier’s and soldano being so similar
Muddy At 2oclock? Maybe I'm biased cuz I have a dual rec lol
Kyle, I wonder if this would work on the Mesa Stiletto Deuce 🤔🤔
I understand that your content is more amp based and plugins is not your deal, but it would be interesting to hear your take on amp plugins that simulate amps you have in your collection, like Josh Middleton has a plugin modeling his personal 5150, rectifier and triple x.
Dude, how?!!! This thing sounds freakin’ amazing. Best recto tone I have heard in UA-cam videos (and I’ve been watching a lot of them as I’m debating getting a recto). I think I’m sold after seeing this video. Also need a Mr Scary mod obviously. Thank you for another awesome video, as always. 👊🏼
I wish we could hear what the Mr.Scary MOD can do for a Mesa Stiletto.
I regret selling my Peavey 3120 head & 412 half stack. Not that I need 120 watts or have a place to play those 120 watts but all three channels were usable and sounded really good.
You also have str-430 power tubes in that. Those are the Sovtec 6L6wxt that mesa used for a short time. They are a bit clearer and tighter in the lows IMO,,,,compared to the 420 that are more common mesa chinese tubes.
So freaking good sounding!!!!
Noooo! It sounded better before you noticed you bumped the mic 😭😭😭
This was real porn! Also work in the same spot on a dual multi watt? Where can I order this that could ship to Sweden?
I'll be testing in the multi watt later this week!
All out war riff at 17min dope
Fat, clear, punchy no fizz \m/
This sounds pretty darn sick if you ask me!
Curious to know the serial # of that Rev G? Sounds really great. I have #4769 w nearly the same cosmetics
55xx on this one, don't remember the exact serial
And you're using Crate Cabinet?
Kyle... Clone vintage to modern(meaning being on orange but have red gain and both presence active), max mids, zero treble (on vintage channel this effects the mid peak point, anything south of 9 OC on the treble will do this with mids maxed) use Vintage channel presence as treble and Red presence as presence. (both presence are active when you clone red to orange) NO ONE talks about this trick anymore.... with that mr scary thing you may not need the TS but no one will judge if you keep it inline XD... Also does this mean those OLD SKOOL hot mods with the weird tube will work in rectifiers?
Definitely NO on the old school Soldano version of the Hot Mod. The reason being is the original Hot Mod ties the heater pins 4 and 5 together. This means it will work on the older Marshals but not many or most of the new amps that use various types of filament wiring.
Do you know if it work with the Badlander ?
That's a great question! Kyle, do you know?
I doubt it. Ask @legenarytones guys. Not Kyle. He was just informed it worked on the old 2 channel rectos. SMH
Kyle, try to set the TS with the volume at 2 o'clock, gain at 0 and tone to taste. I used to avoid to set the volume at max with my Recto. It sounds fantastic, anyway.
The more output the better on a boost in front of a stock rectifier for me, that way I can keep the gain on the amp lower and reap the benefits of the preamp not being overly compressed
What boost pedal are you using?
Yes! An Orange Rocker 30 head. 🙄
Kyle got a huge request. My son has a mesa boogie 3 channel and as you probably know the 3 channel lacks in mid range butter and attack, can you install the Mr. scary into a 3 channel ? Maybe it would sound better with this mod. My son is a bit frustrated with the tone so maybe this would be a huge improvement? And help his metal tone.
3 channels , like all other rectifiers, can be a crapshoot depending on when it was made. I've played many of them and they are all over the place. the one that I currently have definitely does not lack mid-range in any way, so unfortunately it wouldn't be an accurate test. I would say so the one you have if you're not happy with it and look for another one
@belligerentamateur I was just wondering if that Mr. Scary mod would improve his tone before dumping the amp. It sounds good on your amp so I'm assuming it would improve his.
where I can order that mod for the recto?
legendarytones.com
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