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Creality CR-10S Mods and Review
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2018
- The CR-10/S is by far one of the most popular "kit" 3D printers. I love mine but I had some issues with the design. I decided to update my CR-10s to deal with the issues and hopefully improve the printer as a whole. In today's video, I will be going over all the mods I have done to my CR-10s and why I think they improve the printer.
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Great video! I just got a CR-10s about a month ago and I am definitely using your mods. Thank you for taking the time to make and post these amazing videos.
Came to look for mods, found the Jason Bourne of creality cr10s mods. Crazy vid, excellent modifications.
Haha thanks!
My CR-10S favorite mods: PEI build surface, 750 watt bed heater (Im in love with ABS - 60 sec to 100c!), all metal extruder clamp thingy, rubber motor vibration dampners (these solved all the vibration for me), motor smoother boards (if you use Klipper /w OctoPrint add one to the extruder too - you'll be printing THAT fast). I do industrial size printing and am looking at doing a main board swap and going 32bit (Klipper sold me on the benefits with my 8bit board). Moving the entire computer to a micro ATX case with a complete re-cabling (I do electrical engineering / programming in college and 3D printing is a really fun (and inexpensive) hobby for this). I wish a company made solid aluminum or copper heat beds like 1cm thick that would mount to this (I dont feel like drilling if I dont have to). Right now Im using the stock aluminum platter with a sheet of glass (thermal pasted) with a sheet of PEI. A thick sheet of aluminum could be leveled easier than glass at a factory. All in all the CR-10S was a headache but its running good now for the money how can you beat it? I spent $750 on it bahhh
I know it has been 6 years, but... your CR-10S mod collection is gone!
I also was looking for the files ....
First video of your's that I have seen. I liked the info and mod ideas. I'm just getting into 3D printing and I am kinda looking forward more to modifying the printer than I am to just printing.
I love the video! could you possibly list all your mods and where to get them from please?
Savage build, dude! Love it
It certainly isn't all negligence or using up leftovers. With this build volume, you can easily do single prints that chews through multiple full filament spools. Then a filament runout sensor, and stop and resume functionality accordingly, becomes _really_ handy. If not critical. The sensor is basically just a microswitch, some use a microswitch with an idler wheel on the lever. So making your own, doing a custom housing, baking it into another mod - is very simple and easy. On the CR-10S and CR-10S Pro variants, all 3 terminals (common, open and closed) are wired, that way the controller knows the difference between the filament having run out, and the "sensor" itself being disconnected. If you only wire two of them, the controller doesn't know the difference between one of the two sensor states (depending on if you wire it NO or NC), and the "sensor" not being there.
Some excellent upgrades Shane. Thanks!
For the filament run out sensor: I just superglued mine into place. Not ideal if you expect to ever need to detach it, obviously, but a cheap, quick and easy solution to it popping off the frame whenever the extruder retracts filament.
Video was fun, but the links for most of the mods are dead. Can you update?
I added a binder clip to my filament sensor works like a champ and cheap
The filament run-out sensor is basically just a microswitch (lever type, the one for the Pro has an idler pully on the switch lever) so you could very easily make your own in a different format to better suit your individual setup. Or bake it into some other mod bracket or cover.
Thingyverse links dont work.
Great updates!
Are there any drawbacks with having everything mounted underneath the heat bed? Would you suggest using ABS vs PLA for this reason? Or does it matter much at all?
can you specify which thingiverse thing is for the stand alone mod? i see the one in your collection that is in Deutch but wasnt sure if it was compatible with the Cr-10s since it says cr-10. i wasnt sure if the different mother board mattered.
www.thingiverse.com/thing:2747280
thanks for sharing. nice work on redesign controller box and mounting parts.
hello do you have any youtube on how to install the following item thanks 3D Printer Filament Detection Module Sensor Switch Kit For CR-10S
Nice run down. A lot of effort. Cheers for the models.
You mentioned the LCD mount from "the kit that I found online" but I cannot find it in your links above. Am I just overlooking it?
I thought the same thing, but I'm wondering if we just print taller legs if it wouldn't be easier to just keep the whole control box intact, but put the whole thing underneath
Cool video pal. Keep up the good work
The mods look great!
Great video and standalone! The link to the mod collection is confusing though since it contains so many different versions. Would it be possible for you to list out all the mods and extra hardware you needed to buy with links? For those of us with only 1 printer, we need to print out all the right parts before taking the printer apart otherwise it would be a pain to put everything back to print the missing/forgotten part or wait for shipment. Thanks!
All the mods are listed in my collection in the video description. Only thing you need is a bunch of M5 x 8mm bolts and M5 drop in T-Nuts.
Most of these issues are ones I'd like to fix, if I went one mod at a time, is there an order that would be best? I'm a little intimidated about putting all the electronics under the bed the way you have. I wonder if I could modify the feet with racquetballs to be tall enough that I can just place the whole control box underneath without disassembling it. Would that change some of the cable management ideas in this video, ie some wouldn't work because placement would be different since box is still intact? If I put the whole box underneath, then I won't need to custom LCD mount and I already have the mini sd to sd card adapter so it's easier to plug in sd cards.
In order of importance for me
1. Get the control box under the printer somehow and the filament spool on top to reduce footprint
2. Some variation of the cable chain for better cable management
3. camera holder, although I have a small tripod with flexible legs and I put an old phone in front and it works well, so I'm not sold on the camera mount
4. Maybe the gantry mount for stabilization
It seems like keeping the control box intact simplifies what you have to print but also leaves open the possibility of going that route if just putting it under doesn't work out as well.
Pros looks amazing. Cons. Holy crap with the wiring. You should have found a metal box to place it in, in case you know it catches fire... also you have way to much weight at the top with zero support front to back. Tall models will suffer. I would put some kind of wire or bracket to maintain the vertical
I don't have the CR-10 S ( I have a ROBO3D R1+ I got from a Pawnshop and modded ), but the racket balls are an amazing idea
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Thanks!
Very nice thanks for some ideas Shane
i have my printer on a piece of foam (from the packaging the printer came in , i noticed that when the printer wobbles the treaded rods slam back and forth inside the top mounts and i have the suspicion it shows in the print itself
If your gantry is solid it should not effect the prints.
What would be a great video is you showing how to upgrade the CR 10/S stand alone upgrade ,would get lots of views for sure.Would you be so kind as to share your SD card file link and stock wire plug brackets.NEW SUBSCRIBER.
I've added the links to the video description and my CR-10 collection on Thingiverse.
I didn't do a "How to" video because it would take way too long to do and the videos would be very long.
whats with the 11 haters? who thumbed down this video? seriously? for what reason would you give this video a thumbs down? hates gonna hate
That they do! Thanks!
probably because real people don't want to watch beggers , one negative outweights five positives.
Vibration is a devil for the ears and the print quality and I wanted to get rid of both problems.
My solution was to place a 500 x 500 x 50 mm concrete tile on the work table, using the original 4 rubber supports from the CR-10 between tile and table as vibration suppressor.
Four hard rubber stands provide the support between CR-10 and the tile to provide a firm connection the frame and a large mass.
The result is, that the vibration noise has diminished considerately as has the vibration of the CR-10 frame.
In the original setup, the resonance of the frame induced by the nature of the stepper motor motion has a tendency to produce waves on the vertical sides of the print.
These waves have been drastically reduced with the new setup.
The next step is to introduce a new stepper motor controller with a sinus-wave-like waveform, - still have to find the right solution.
I'm still a newcomer in this technology, but have worked as an electronic engineer in development since 1978 :-).
Regards from Denmark
Hi, hoping you can help. I have a brand new CR-10s and when I save my slicing from Cura and then try to print it, the print starts in the top left hand corning instead of in the center where it should. I'm sure this is just a setting issue cause the test print I did first printed in the center and perfect. What I am trying to print is a two piece filament adapter for the larger spools. I thought it was that so I tried a different single piece nosile holder and it does the same thing and they print right over the glass clips.
Nice piece of work.
Great stuff. As I am running the Tevo Tornado, would love to know if similar mods for the control box can be adapted like the CR-10 which, as it's a knock off type, it should be. Running a direct extruder feed to the E3d-V6 hotend but the control box and cable management really sux as standard. Should the control board also be upgraded? sorry if a bit off topic, but it seems what you have done here can be directly transferred to the Tornado. Love to hear your thoughts.
I'd love to do this to the Tornado. I did some quick searches on Thingiverse and I found a few of them. goo.gl/jNQPrv Maybe I'll make this a project in the future.
Maybe my Tornado collection can help a bit for all (www.thingiverse.com/Lazthing/collections/tevo-tornado). Using the Petfang mod -> www.thingiverse.com/thing:2907538
FYI, you have to take the ) off the end of the URL so it will work: www.thingiverse.com/Lazthing/collections/tevo-tornado
Thanks for the collection!
very nice!!! Thank you so much!!
How is printing tall flexibles doing, with those flexible feet on it? Doesn't it _attenuate_ wobbles?
I don't print any flexible material on this machine.
Very nice thks for some ideas !
Nice, thanks for sharing :-)
Definitely use the links to purchase, we want gearbest to stay happy, lol. Reallllly?
May you enable UA-cam's automatic captioning? Thanks.
In your CR-10 Mod Collection there are only some of the things you have printed. Please UPDATE it!
You should learn humility from Leo LaPorte by not begging for free stuff .....
For 30 years he has bought every single product, feature, add-one, bolt-ons, updates. This way he is not beholden to any manufacturer and can give his complete, unbiased opinion.
Just sayin’.
yeah I was liking video til the end, I immediately took my like off when he started that shit., anyone that watches youtube already knows what is up , so if someone was gonna donate they don't need a reminder too.
Is there any way to upgrade the drivers on this printer?
Which standalone kit did you use? There seems to be many in the collection. And I can't seem to find the SD card extender mount.
I used this one: www.thingiverse.com/thing:2747280 with these extra parts: www.thingiverse.com/thing:2764418
Looking at my designs it looks like I forgot to publish my feet and SD card mount. I'll work on that this weekend and add them to the collection and video description.
love it
the cr-10s uses 12v to power the part cooler fan. if i want to change to a dual fan design could i use 2 12v fans or would i have to split the difference between both fans and go with 2 6v fans
Put them in parallel.
Nice vid man, really liking those mods, i will steal a couple! :) But you are forgetting the most important one, replacing that crappy center extrusion with the 6 wheels by 2 linear rails so the bed is rock solid and much smoother. I have done that and it transforms all your prints! Link to reddit build here: www.reddit.com/r/CR10/comments/an0uoh/cr10s_lineair_rail_upgrade_done/
The thingiverse links are no longer working
Can all of these be applied to cr10-S5 ???
Mostly. Only thing you might need to redesign is the PSU mount and maybe the board mount. IDK the spacing on the CR-10S5
Have to say buddy this is a wicked set up and really liked the video :) do you think I could do the same to my cr10 S4 ? :)
Yep. Might need to mod a few parts though.
Where can I find the STL files to print the upgrade to get rid of the control box ??
An exact link would be very helpful
Thank you
Daniel Samuel Bayvel-Zayats description
how much the outside dimensions are and how much is the control panel?the stock machine
I don't have the control box anymore so I couldn't say.
Where did you get your racket ball holders? The ones that are on this unit.
I made them and apparently I didn't upload them. I do that this weekend.
Can you provide some links to all your mods for the CR-10s. Thanks.
All links are in the video description.
Did you do any upgrade for the slow bed heating problem??
No but I have some insulation I want to try out. Just have not made it a priority yet.
Do you think this printer for action figures, details on faces, small prints?
Thank you
It is ok for small things but if you want to only print small objects, buy a smaller printer.
Would it be ok to put the boards and psu under a cr10 that's going to be enclosed?
For the most part it should be ok. I'd insulate the bed though frist.
Also do you have your remix mosfet design on thingiverse?
www.thingiverse.com/thing:3115234
Not sure how you think that birds nest of cables under is better than just having it enclosed
I want to put it below too so the footprint on a table top is smaller too, but I could print taller legs and just out the whole enclosure underneath
Good mod
Do you think its the best 3d printer for the price at the moment?
If you need a large format printer, yes.
I just got my CR10S from gearbest but the printer bed only warms up to 30C out of the box... and gearbest only responds to my messages with form responses so I'm not entirely sure where to go to get it corrected is there anybody who would be able to tell me what to do?
It could be a problem with the MOSFET. Sadly support is minimal for these printers so you will need to turn to the Facebook group for help.
it took several days but I finally got the customer support to read enough of my tickets to agree to replace it so hopefully it wont have to come down to me figuring out how to fix uh... whatever a mosfet is...
Are these recommended for the base CR10 as well?
Yes. The CR-10 and CR-10S are almost identical machines.
I think you should share the mods you printed :D
You should read the video description :)
do you happen to have the link for the Z cable chain?
www.thingiverse.com/thing:2757810
12:56 are those passports off to his right sholder?
Yes and that isn't even all of them lol. I travel with 12 passports for the whole family.
super
Shocking what you have done to that machine...I design machines for a living BTW....lol...
Was on board until I saw the bottom.
That bad?
@@Fugatech3DPrinting Lol! Just looks a bit daunting and not a fan of all the exposed wires.
I got completely screwed by Gearbest, do NOT buy anything from Gearbest!
seems like a lot of work,, for ??? why not just buy a different printer, to suit your needs,, I dont get it,,,
That the whole idea of an open source printer to make it the way you want it.
Dont do this if you want to print other than PLA...your electronics will heat up if you enclose this bad boy!
I print everything on this except ABS so no enclosure needed. This machine mostly does PETG and PC for me.
Horrible printer. Not worth the money. I've been printing with this device over 2 months. Always a problem. Screws gets loosen during long prints. Heating bed problems. You need to adjust this before the prints and after. One project Ive printed 4 days of non stop print, nozzle part (bottom wheel screw) readjusted due to vibration and damaged the project. there's many other problems. So those guys who say such nice thing about this is because they get free parts and even printers from the company.
I've had this printer for quite along time and never had any of the issues you are talking about. I haven't leveled my bed in months either.
Dude, what’s with the cut and paste cr-10 hate? Found exactly the same comment on several cr-10s mod videos. Might be a Russian bot for all I know.