It really is. It was my credo during the pandemic. I thought, if the world is on lockdown and my workflow is light, then I'm going to use the time to get better at everything I do.
@@ChadMichaelSimon I actually learned to play (basic) guitar during the pandemic, Id been wanting to for years and in week 4 I just said fuck it and got a guitar and amp delivered.
Yes, I read that a fairly common cognitive error many humans make is not realizing how much of a factor luck is. Much of success is often attributable to being in the right place at the right time.
I've always found it to be way more than just some hilarious show... it's life. The relatable good, the relatable bad, and the day-to-day monotonous, yet unexpected in-between. There's no show I've ever related to more and that as I've grown has grown with me.
@@jon8004 Louis CK is not a 'they', man! Your remarks about 'unresolved frustration' and 'sadness' are pure conjecture; clearly you know nothing about him.
I'm a music artist, not a comedian, but the part about staying good and progressing while nobody's paying attention really resonated in me. It really is the biggest challenge, but you gotta keep bringing your A-game because you never know which release will be the one to get attention, and you'll hate yourself if when it finally happens it doesn't reflect your best work.
Reminds me of the phrase that finally got me to taking practice seriously: "In order to do the cool shit in front of people you first have to do the boring shit alone". "You gotta start slow", "practice your basics and you'll get better over time", "they're called fundamentals for a reason", none of that resonated. I understood the sentiment but I didn't ever internalize it. The I heard the cool shit one and it clicked.
I think there is something to be said about letting go of your aspirations... If you're putting too much pressure on yourself to succeed, to 'make it', you can end up turning your passion into a shitty job, and end up learning to hate it before you've really put in the necessary hours to succeed. Whereas just doing it for the fun and enjoyment of it means you'll never get sick of doing it, never get fed up of putting in the required time to improve.
That's a really good point. I am in a job that pays well but I don't get anything out of it. I want my kids to feel the opposite. Even if it pays shit just do it if you love it. It will pay in the end.
The term "amateur" is often not used in a good way but etymologically it means "the one that loves" or that does something for the love of it. Sometimes professionalization can really be a mistake and kills all the passion you had.
I knew a musician years ago who was a wonderful guitarist, singer, and storyteller. He could captivate a small audience with his performance. I told him he should go pro and his response was, "If I do that, it becomes a 'job'. I do it because I love it, not because I want 'success'." I had never thought of it that way and I never forgot it.
@@Odthean I know an artist who had a similar experience. It's really difficult to make a living as an artist, so she got an administrative job at an art gallery. While she still loves art, she hates the business aspect of it. I think it's good to have a flexible job that maybe doesn't pay that well which allows someone the time to engage in personal interests rather than a high-paying, but highly-demanding job that sucks the life out of you.
There's some beautifully in the way Louie says how he mentally gave up on those dreams but kept doing standup as a forty year old, grumpy, dad. Which ended up showcasing his true talent and getting him a lot of attention. As an actor and a writer I've also seen actors and writers mentally just go, "I don't care anymore." After they say that they always put out their best work and they never even realize it. I watched a play once in class where there was a huge dramatic pause that brought such tension to the scene. After the play I asked my buddy, "Hey that pause was amazing and the way you stormed out afterwards was so impactful. What made you decide that?" He went, "I forgot my line so I just stayed in character until I remembered it." Although you've mentally given up just stay in character, keep putting out your craft, but just do it for you!
Listening to Louis CK makes me think about my own life and the way there have been epochs. There are epochs in people's life. We aren't one person. We are people in constant evolution or we're devolving. I feel like I've had 5 lives already.
Hubris. That was Louie’s fatal flaw. No one singled him out. He lost his way, morally and ethically. He thought, as some talented and successful do when they’re flying high, that the normal rules of human decency and behavior didn’t apply to him. And now he’s like the high school quarterback who was a bust in the pros who now haunts his old high school with tales of his former glory and the tragic unfairness of his downfall.
Louis would be so good writing for TV. I see so many TV shows that just lack that edge, they line up jokes but there is nothing dangerous in either the joke or the delivery. If Louis would be in those writers rooms he could take the jokes and just twist them to go weird or make them more human and relatable.
Dude was treated as a ‘Comedy God’. He was writing, directing, producing and acting for the big wigs. Him being cancelled bruised his ego HARD. Only respect him because I feel like he is one of the last TRUE comics left.
Good Show Theo Good to see Ya Louis Been a fan of yours for years A good sense of what's up and the timing in that Enjoyed your show when it was on but being an OTR driver on the road 30-35 days at a time made it tuff to stay up with lots of shows I enjoyed Lots of re runs for 4-5days Then back on the road Louis 👀K in the sky With Diamonds 💎 A Pleasure you guys🤝
The one that sticks out to me the most is the one where he steals all of the scales from the science lab as a kid to sell to a drug dealer....just something about that episode that I really loved
The one that always stuck with me and the one I find myself often thinking about is the episode with the strange librarian lady, specifically the rooftop scene. What a beautiful show!
fame and notoriety are shackles that confines you into a specific way of being. He was freed from all of that, now he can do whatever he wants without being bogged down by the requirements of fame and fortune. John Mulaney also made reference to this in his opening bit in his latest special (great special btw, you must watch it).
The wave didn't end because of like market economics, it ended because his own actions caught up to him. That's fine - you're allowed to make mistakes and learn and grow, but it feels like he's fundamentally detached from the fact that it was because of HIM, not some mystical abstract fate
“Fate” doesn’t sound at all like what he is saying. Success is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. A person can work hard preparing all their lives to be the best and still never catch a break. Another guy could have all the wealth and resources (opportunity) imaginable and squander it all. It takes both. So much is out of a person’s control. Louie mentions here how easily success clouds the senses, builds the ego, and deceives someone into believing that they are just so good that they can’t lose, and become careless. That’s what happened… CK got careless. He’s also just a strange guy… and that is true of many that are successful. And success doesn’t tend to make a person less strange😂
It actually was fairly abstract. Happened more than a decade previous where those women gave him permission to do that repugnant and bizarre thing, and he was taken down by a couple of opportunistic stand-ups whose own careers had failed, who were bitter, and given the Weinstein saga it brought his whole career down. The US media has zero nuance and he found himself subject to the same fate. But he actually asked if could do what he did, and they said yes. End of story.
I think he understands what happened chief. He’s talking about that level of success being impossible to maintain anyway. He doesn’t have to moan about all the nonsense controversy. It’s been covered. He already took responsibility.
I saw Louis at the point when he turned dark. He stunned the audience with a long bit about rape that had a huge crowd completely quiet and uncomfortable. A few months later, he crashed.
@dougslotkin9294 nah I wouldn't say he's darker then Pryor. Pryor lit himself on fire lol 🔥 and Greg Giraldo killed himself while he was drugged out of his mind with hookers in the next room. So I don't think Louis is on that level he's just a old perv
I like how Louis said "there was no indoor space I couldn't book" and the first two examples Theo thinks of are "Stonehenge" and "Mr. McGregor's garden", both outdoors.
I don't think he owes it to anyone and I understand why he doesn't want to but it'd be interesting to hear him actually talk about it, like whenever he's been sort of prompted to he kind of tapdances around it
7:28 “then you’re busting every hand”. Louis, when you make an analogy, you don’t stray off that target at all brother. If only he hadn’t busted so many hands.
Some good advice in here, but seems a bit rich for him to chalk up his downturn to just being a natural result of "getting too big", like it was just bound to happen
@@MsLGgamerwell Chappelle said it best. All those who tried to cancel Louie weren't forced to be there when the "heinous" acts were performed. They are not Cosby/Weinstein victims. Heck even Weinstein didn't force his victims. You just don't get into his good graces. And have to work harder. Weinstein is like a cheat code for Hollywood.
The Beatles vaguely considered playing at Stonehenge, among a few other notorious historical sites, for their first live concert in three years in 1969.
The FX show, Louie, was and remains the best thing to be on TV in the last quarter century. It is utterly unforgivable that show was taken off the air--and speaks to the inanity of 21st century television network thinking.
i mean what he did was objectively bad. he deserved reprecussions. a good show is nothing if it rewards actively predatory behavior, and obviously the show wouldn't work w/o him.
@@123rtXd But the only people who really know what happened are him and the others involved. What we, the larger public, know is probably at least somewhat distorted, inaccurate and incomplete. I think all transgressions are relative, and while what he supposedly did was crass, it's far from the worst thing celebrities have done. For instance, Charlie Sheen's behavior was much more reckless and irresponsible than anything Louis was accused of, yet most of the public seems to have forgiven Charlie. Also, what Louis did was really part of his personal rather than professional life, so I'm inclined to think it's mainly between him and the others involved.
@@alankoslowski9473 bruh you wrote a whole essay jerking off about mystery when the fucker himself admitted and apologized. stop coping. your heroes suck. yes they can be redeemed to an extent - and im not even actively seeking ck's cancellation atm but stop trying to warp reality - he did what he did and it was objectively bad - he deserved his consequences. you pointing to other celeberities not recieving their consequences is an issue with THEIR treatment not Louie CK's. you trying to write it off as crass is you chooisng to underplay it because it suits your narrative. the facts and Louie's own account indicate it was more than crass - a breach of mutual consent and professionalism.
@@funnyavi lol I listen to Bill Burrs podcast and when he first got nominated for comedy album of the year he played it off like he didn’t care. But once he was there and didn’t get it he was bummed. Honestly, all a Grammy does nowadays is basically say this work by the artist sold a lot in their field. It really doesn’t mean anything. But winning one certainly means you’re doing pretty damn well for yourself lol and that’s all I’m saying in terms of Louis “not being famous anymore.”
Love the thoughts around being great but at the wrong time… jack Handy and then steven wright were legends of that absurdist / stream of consciousness style, and years later Mitch Hedburg absolutely killed it but struggled to get the same love. Different times.
@@galept "In 2002, a Chicago comedy duo, Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov, landed their big break: a chance to perform at the U.S. Comedy Arts Festival in Aspen, Colo. When Louis C.K. invited them to hang out in his hotel room for a nightcap after their late-night show, they did not think twice. The bars were closed and they wanted to celebrate. He was a comedian they admired. The women would be together. His intentions seemed collegial. As soon as they sat down in his room, still wrapped in their winter jackets and hats, Louis C.K. asked if he could take out his penis, the women said. They thought it was a joke and laughed it off. “And then he really did it,” Ms. Goodman said in an interview with The New York Times. “He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating.”" That's one example, he did it several times. Some people say shit like "they could just leave, he said he was gonna do it before he did it!!", as if that doesn't make it weirdo behaviour.
'life is a zero sum game' is ignorant. hes speaking as a person who measured failure and success by fame, but life, not fame, is the zero sum. maybe he lived wrong and thats why he wanted to cream on chicks. 'bro,zero sum. if it wasnt i could kum wherever i wanted'. bringing everyone down with him. what a jerk
Louie was an incredible show. I loved that he had a black actress play his wife, which was a white character. It was really something I believe in, any actor should be allowed to play a character. Who cares. Louis was very forward-thinking.
Great video, interviewer and interviewee.... but at no point did it discuss Louis' feelings on whether he misses the fame, just how fleeting it can be.
I find this portion of the interview to be purposefully disingenuous. The way they talk about how he’s no longer famous implies that either A he just got unlucky and/or B he did something minor like had been an alcoholic and needed to get help. That’s not what happened. He forced himself on to multiple women over the years. Some of which during his shows. In real life if one would do that, they would never be hired to work in that profession again. Nobody would blink an eye, but in the entertainment industry it seems to be the opposite. I say this as someone who had viewed Louis as the greatest stand up of the modern era. But it needs to be pointed out he’s not the victim. Yet on this show, Tom Segura’s, Joe Rogan’s, they frame it that Louis lost everything because of bad luck and we should feel sorry for him. None of these hosts have asked him about what he did. Nobody has asked “Why did you do that?” I know I will be in the minority on this, but I stand by that he needs to be held accountable. Not saying he should be in prison or can’t leave his home, but he is still finding success in the stand up world when he shouldn’t be.
Me too!I’ve been following him since he started! All his work is amazing! He’s a charismatic human being and we’re all blessed to have lived in his time! …and I live half a planet away from him!
@@Durzel No. But some mention of him masturbating in forn of women might be a talking point. There is one thing about falling on a sword and another thing about never ever mentioning it ever again as if it never happened. Kind of relevant as well as his job as a stand up in commenting on others behaviour. Relax.
@@royfr8136 Yeah, it's definitely relevant when he's talking about how success that keeps expanding will blowup eventually. It's almost like he's suggesting his fall from fame was like some eventual turn from audience sensibilities or something and not because of a very specific thing that derailed his career when it was going really well.
Well, hate to tell him, but he's still got the fame and notoriety, just for very different reasons. Sadly those kind of hollywood cases you never really know what went on, but sadly when I watch his old comedy, which really was brilliant, then some of it is "whoa, thats got a whole new context now". But that was never the main stuff I watched for anyway. His bit about his grandmother in the nursing home made think about society in a whole new way. He did a bit about 'bacon' and how God comes down and says "what are you doing, there's food ON THE GROUND......yeah, but not with bacon". That was social commentary that Bill Hicks would have been proud of. And I do think maybe part of the reason 'suddenly' some people took those accusations seriously was that Louis was that huge and really starting to do SOCIAL satire and not just 'this happened to ME" kind of stuff. Same with Bill Hicks and George Carlin, the main stream has always been really terrified of standups who don't have a filter. I wish him well, but he's a guy who really only sells me on the comedy in his acts, not sure if his new one is worth money or not.
a Reassuring conversation... just keep doing what you do to the best of your ability every time on stage... if that Watchtower light hits you at the right time great... if not... oh well, you're still doing what you're doing to the best of your ability
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"Keep getting good while no one is paying attention" That's a fucking great advice
Yep. Thats how you end up as the boss.
It really is. It was my credo during the pandemic. I thought, if the world is on lockdown and my workflow is light, then I'm going to use the time to get better at everything I do.
@@ChadMichaelSimon I actually learned to play (basic) guitar during the pandemic, Id been wanting to for years and in week 4 I just said fuck it and got a guitar and amp delivered.
A better piece of advice is 'Don't jack off in front of people like a massive weirdo.'
Here's some other great advice that Louis should have listened to: 'Don't jack off in front of people.'
Louie legitimately is one of the best TV shows ever aired. No question.
Louie Louie Louie Louieeeee!!!
We were robbed of another season. Those worthless thieves 🤬!
@@RebornLegacy he kinda jacked that up himself
indeed!
It absolutely is.
@@lordbunbury "jacked" 😆
This whole conversation was really deep and insightful, and it relates to so many areas beyond just comedy.
Exactly what I was thinking
Yes, I read that a fairly common cognitive error many humans make is not realizing how much of a factor luck is. Much of success is often attributable to being in the right place at the right time.
Louis is a complete weirdo creep.
Honestly, these 2 are really great together between Louis' intellect and Theo's unique perspective.
Honest?
Seriously. Their casual chemistry is surprisingly fantastic.
Haha, Theo is mentally handicapped
i think you both value the wrong things and its warping your view@@JasonWindsor88
For sure, this is what I think a lot of people hoped the Bill burr episode would be but we all know how bad that went.
Louie is one of the best shows that has ever been on television!
I've always found it to be way more than just some hilarious show... it's life. The relatable good, the relatable bad, and the day-to-day monotonous, yet unexpected in-between. There's no show I've ever related to more and that as I've grown has grown with me.
The way he could write a funny, but also sad, cringy scene was amazing. And little Pamela was no slouch either
Theo gave some of the best convo bumps to keep it going in this bit.
3:56 "Things that expand... explode." Words of wisdom.
What he said to when he jerked it to
@@jon8004 Louis CK is not a 'they', man! Your remarks about 'unresolved frustration' and 'sadness' are pure conjecture; clearly you know nothing about him.
@@jon8004 Then I was wrong... happens sometimes :-)
Some women stuck in a room with him found that out 😂
@@keltoneYep, what a fucking creep.
Theo can really step it up when he has to. Excellent interview.
I'm a music artist, not a comedian, but the part about staying good and progressing while nobody's paying attention really resonated in me. It really is the biggest challenge, but you gotta keep bringing your A-game because you never know which release will be the one to get attention, and you'll hate yourself if when it finally happens it doesn't reflect your best work.
Reminds me of the phrase that finally got me to taking practice seriously: "In order to do the cool shit in front of people you first have to do the boring shit alone". "You gotta start slow", "practice your basics and you'll get better over time", "they're called fundamentals for a reason", none of that resonated. I understood the sentiment but I didn't ever internalize it. The I heard the cool shit one and it clicked.
what CK just said applies to so much shit in life. Fuck, i gotta keep on truckin.
It's been a year. You still truckin?
I think there is something to be said about letting go of your aspirations... If you're putting too much pressure on yourself to succeed, to 'make it', you can end up turning your passion into a shitty job, and end up learning to hate it before you've really put in the necessary hours to succeed. Whereas just doing it for the fun and enjoyment of it means you'll never get sick of doing it, never get fed up of putting in the required time to improve.
That's a really good point. I am in a job that pays well but I don't get anything out of it. I want my kids to feel the opposite. Even if it pays shit just do it if you love it. It will pay in the end.
The term "amateur" is often not used in a good way but etymologically it means "the one that loves" or that does something for the love of it. Sometimes professionalization can really be a mistake and kills all the passion you had.
I knew a musician years ago who was a wonderful guitarist, singer, and storyteller. He could captivate a small audience with his performance. I told him he should go pro and his response was, "If I do that, it becomes a 'job'. I do it because I love it, not because I want 'success'." I had never thought of it that way and I never forgot it.
@@Odthean I know an artist who had a similar experience. It's really difficult to make a living as an artist, so she got an administrative job at an art gallery. While she still loves art, she hates the business aspect of it.
I think it's good to have a flexible job that maybe doesn't pay that well which allows someone the time to engage in personal interests rather than a high-paying, but highly-demanding job that sucks the life out of you.
That last line is the best advice. Gotta hone your craft in order for somebody to take that gamble on you
Oh he honed his craft all right. His PP craft
There's some beautifully in the way Louie says how he mentally gave up on those dreams but kept doing standup as a forty year old, grumpy, dad. Which ended up showcasing his true talent and getting him a lot of attention. As an actor and a writer I've also seen actors and writers mentally just go, "I don't care anymore." After they say that they always put out their best work and they never even realize it. I watched a play once in class where there was a huge dramatic pause that brought such tension to the scene. After the play I asked my buddy, "Hey that pause was amazing and the way you stormed out afterwards was so impactful. What made you decide that?" He went, "I forgot my line so I just stayed in character until I remembered it." Although you've mentally given up just stay in character, keep putting out your craft, but just do it for you!
Your friend doesn’t sound like he’s a very good friend tbh
@@KM-hk8tc lol what why? Because he forgot a line in a play? 😂
"Louie" and "Lucky Louie" were incredible and his stand up is great.
Listening to Louis CK makes me think about my own life and the way there have been epochs. There are epochs in people's life. We aren't one person. We are people in constant evolution or we're devolving. I feel like I've had 5 lives already.
You sound like a misogynist. No wonder you like Louis
bro stop projecting yo divorce u ain nobody father
I feel like I vibe with the 1st part of this.....
Yeah bro nobody gives a f**k
@@bakedizzle24 It was a joke. When I tell a joke, I can say anything.
That part about your reputation building up and you don’t notice it but other people are registering you in their mind resonates
Hubris. That was Louie’s fatal flaw. No one singled him out. He lost his way, morally and ethically. He thought, as some talented and successful do when they’re flying high, that the normal rules of human decency and behavior didn’t apply to him. And now he’s like the high school quarterback who was a bust in the pros who now haunts his old high school with tales of his former glory and the tragic unfairness of his downfall.
This interview was great Theo and Louie are both masters of their craft
Louie is. Theo isn't near as good of a comedian though. He's better at podcasting
master? master of none starring aziz ansari? master... bator? master bedroom? bastermate in the bastardmendroom?
Louis would be so good writing for TV. I see so many TV shows that just lack that edge, they line up jokes but there is nothing dangerous in either the joke or the delivery. If Louis would be in those writers rooms he could take the jokes and just twist them to go weird or make them more human and relatable.
Stonehenge 🤣🤣
Theo is outrageously funny.
Or stupid lol
Word, he's incredibly fast with this exact type of barely-there throwaway line.
Lol, the pic of Louis hosting SNL has him looking every bit as naive about riding high as they were just talking about 😅
Dude was treated as a ‘Comedy God’. He was writing, directing, producing and acting for the big wigs. Him being cancelled bruised his ego HARD.
Only respect him because I feel like he is one of the last TRUE comics left.
Good Show Theo
Good to see Ya Louis
Been a fan of yours for years
A good sense of what's up and the timing in that
Enjoyed your show when it was on but being an OTR driver on the road 30-35 days at a time made it tuff to stay up with lots of shows I enjoyed
Lots of re runs for 4-5days
Then back on the road
Louis 👀K in the sky
With Diamonds 💎
A Pleasure you guys🤝
These guys mesh well. I love listening to Luis CK, hes so articulate/funny. #1 favorite comedian
No issues at all with him jacking off in front of people???
The Louie episode where he goes to Afghanistan is a precious part of top-tier TV
If you can find it, his blog post about that Afghanistan tour is phenomenal
@@menikmati789 Where can I find this post? Does he have a blog? Also for everyone who is willing to search, the episode is Louie s02e11 "Duckling"
The one that sticks out to me the most is the one where he steals all of the scales from the science lab as a kid to sell to a drug dealer....just something about that episode that I really loved
The one that always stuck with me and the one I find myself often thinking about is the episode with the strange librarian lady, specifically the rooftop scene. What a beautiful show!
fame and notoriety are shackles that confines you into a specific way of being. He was freed from all of that, now he can do whatever he wants without being bogged down by the requirements of fame and fortune. John Mulaney also made reference to this in his opening bit in his latest special (great special btw, you must watch it).
The wave didn't end because of like market economics, it ended because his own actions caught up to him. That's fine - you're allowed to make mistakes and learn and grow, but it feels like he's fundamentally detached from the fact that it was because of HIM, not some mystical abstract fate
Amen, brother
“Fate” doesn’t sound at all like what he is saying. Success is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. A person can work hard preparing all their lives to be the best and still never catch a break. Another guy could have all the wealth and resources (opportunity) imaginable and squander it all. It takes both. So much is out of a person’s control. Louie mentions here how easily success clouds the senses, builds the ego, and deceives someone into believing that they are just so good that they can’t lose, and become careless. That’s what happened… CK got careless. He’s also just a strange guy… and that is true of many that are successful. And success doesn’t tend to make a person less strange😂
He just got caught up in a witch hunt.
It actually was fairly abstract. Happened more than a decade previous where those women gave him permission to do that repugnant and bizarre thing, and he was taken down by a couple of opportunistic stand-ups whose own careers had failed, who were bitter, and given the Weinstein saga it brought his whole career down. The US media has zero nuance and he found himself subject to the same fate. But he actually asked if could do what he did, and they said yes. End of story.
I think he understands what happened chief. He’s talking about that level of success being impossible to maintain anyway. He doesn’t have to moan about all the nonsense controversy. It’s been covered. He already took responsibility.
I saw Louis at the point when he turned dark. He stunned the audience with a long bit about rape that had a huge crowd completely quiet and uncomfortable. A few months later, he crashed.
Few months later turns out he had personal insight on sexual abuse.
Am really curious as to what the joke contained to cause a whole audience
All comedians go down the road. It's just in their nature. Very dark side to most
No - I’ve seen most of the top comedians and his darkness is far darker than most.
@dougslotkin9294 nah I wouldn't say he's darker then Pryor. Pryor lit himself on fire lol 🔥 and Greg Giraldo killed himself while he was drugged out of his mind with hookers in the next room. So I don't think Louis is on that level he's just a old perv
I like how Louis said "there was no indoor space I couldn't book" and the first two examples Theo thinks of are "Stonehenge" and "Mr. McGregor's garden", both outdoors.
The notoriety certainly hasn’t went away
LOL Mr Macgregor's Garden hahahahha
I remember Laura Kightlinger from her many memorable snl characters.
She was likely ushered through SNL by a great mentor.
I don't think he owes it to anyone and I understand why he doesn't want to but it'd be interesting to hear him actually talk about it, like whenever he's been sort of prompted to he kind of tapdances around it
He owes it to me. I loved him so much and he betrayed me.
@@cpe1704tks Unless he personally jacked off in front of you no he doesn't lol
It's just bizarre. Does he think everyone has forgotten? What a weirdo
@@sratus He probably just thinks anything he say would make it worse
6:49 dang, Laura Kightlinger sighting... also SNL alum/shorttimer
7:28 “then you’re busting every hand”. Louis, when you make an analogy, you don’t stray off that target at all brother. If only he hadn’t busted so many hands.
Louie is a serious funny guy.
Theo is a charismatic funny guy.
Some good advice in here, but seems a bit rich for him to chalk up his downturn to just being a natural result of "getting too big", like it was just bound to happen
99% of people have done something far worse than what he got cancelled for.
@@bones531 doesn't make it any less bad
i havent actually forced an underling to watch me masturbate and im not as rare as you think @bones531
@@MsLGgamerwell Chappelle said it best. All those who tried to cancel Louie weren't forced to be there when the "heinous" acts were performed. They are not Cosby/Weinstein victims. Heck even Weinstein didn't force his victims. You just don't get into his good graces. And have to work harder. Weinstein is like a cheat code for Hollywood.
@@bones531you must be a man writing that.
Love that drippy Louis knowledge- he’s a genius
Hmmm he's also a creep.
Only Theo Von would think of ‘booking’ Stonehenge…. 🙄 😂
Bruh I'm glad someone else caught that . 😅😂😂😂
I think he was joking guys
The Beatles vaguely considered playing at Stonehenge, among a few other notorious historical sites, for their first live concert in three years in 1969.
"Do what you do for its own sake" is what I take away from this great conversation
As Bill Murray said, you think you want to be rich and famous, but try just being rich...
The FX show, Louie, was and remains the best thing to be on TV in the last quarter century. It is utterly unforgivable that show was taken off the air--and speaks to the inanity of 21st century television network thinking.
i mean what he did was objectively bad. he deserved reprecussions. a good show is nothing if it rewards actively predatory behavior, and obviously the show wouldn't work w/o him.
@@123rtXd But the only people who really know what happened are him and the others involved. What we, the larger public, know is probably at least somewhat distorted, inaccurate and incomplete.
I think all transgressions are relative, and while what he supposedly did was crass, it's far from the worst thing celebrities have done. For instance, Charlie Sheen's behavior was much more reckless and irresponsible than anything Louis was accused of, yet most of the public seems to have forgiven Charlie.
Also, what Louis did was really part of his personal rather than professional life, so I'm inclined to think it's mainly between him and the others involved.
@@alankoslowski9473 bruh you wrote a whole essay jerking off about mystery when the fucker himself admitted and apologized. stop coping. your heroes suck. yes they can be redeemed to an extent - and im not even actively seeking ck's cancellation atm but stop trying to warp reality - he did what he did and it was objectively bad - he deserved his consequences. you pointing to other celeberities not recieving their consequences is an issue with THEIR treatment not Louie CK's. you trying to write it off as crass is you chooisng to underplay it because it suits your narrative. the facts and Louie's own account indicate it was more than crass - a breach of mutual consent and professionalism.
@@123rtXd jerking off isn't really a big deal
@@someguywithnoplan6395context matters. At home, of course not. At the kids playground, probably. 🤷
Louis is smart, articulate, philosophical, and a great teacher and raconteur. And damn funny.
And he's a wanker. Don't forget that.
you forgot masturbator
@@Nonesovile96 his style is much closer to George Carlin than Bill Hicks, and even that is a stretch.
he also has masturbated in front of women without asking
Louis C.K is one of the most artistic genesises of all time, he is being humble !
He’s one of my favorites comedians ever. Everyone has to watch him do stand up
He went through a cranky phase, but then he went through a cranking phase.
no
Oh Theo lol...
"There was no indoor space that I couldn't book..."
"Stonehenge?"
Stonehenge lmao
yo lets go see louis hes playing at the face rocks on easter island
When he describes his father, sounds like he's talking about himself.
Aww two sisters and their mama starring in a film together 😍
It takes a special kind of coward to push someone from behind or sucker punch
3:00 first time I heard anyone so casually say life is a zero sum game. Kinda fascinating.
Did he just say Mr McGregor's garden? Omg ☠️☠️☠️
funniest shit
i dont understand how hes so quick with that shit hes so good
Every show Louie created was great. Louie, Horace and Pete, etc. that’s what I miss. His art
Yeah but he kept showing women his part
@@bobsburgers5205 needed therapy for that
@@bobsburgers5205 he was doing what he loves!
Only Louie can do an excellent schindlers list joke!😅
The only thing Louis regrets is losing his Jergen's lotion sponsorship
Mr Mcgregor's Garden...now that was a deep cut 😂
Louie is hands down one of the best TV shows ever made. It's exceptionally good.
That was a really good talk
Things that expand explode 💎
5:29 I have never seen more perfect teeth
When he started wearing suits in 2017 I knew in the back of my head that something was coming
Louis had a hell of an Achilles heel. Would be an amazing sketch
he has been doing it my whole life...
We need the director’s cut of Pootie Tang. Or maybe have the Criterion Collection do it. That was a deliriously funny movie, and ahead of its time.
Theo set him up with a Stonehenge joke and Louis missed the oppo 😂
Anyone else's anxiety go through the roof waiting for Louis to knock over that can?...just me?
No I didn't even notice it
His show was so good. Hate that it's not on any streaming site.
Louis comedy was so funny. Just super funny
In the uk, you have definitely made it if you play Stonehenge. 😂😂
Didn’t he just win a Grammy for best comedy special last year?? Can’t get much more notoriety from there 😂
Haha, exactly. He doesn't miss it because he still has it.
I'm pretty sure no one gives a crap about Grammies in the comedy community. That's not an award that matters.
@@funnyavi lol I listen to Bill Burrs podcast and when he first got nominated for comedy album of the year he played it off like he didn’t care. But once he was there and didn’t get it he was bummed. Honestly, all a Grammy does nowadays is basically say this work by the artist sold a lot in their field. It really doesn’t mean anything. But winning one certainly means you’re doing pretty damn well for yourself lol and that’s all I’m saying in terms of Louis “not being famous anymore.”
Love the thoughts around being great but at the wrong time… jack Handy and then steven wright were legends of that absurdist / stream of consciousness style, and years later Mitch Hedburg absolutely killed it but struggled to get the same love. Different times.
"Shine your pitty on the runny kine."
Greatest comedian this generation
Stewart lee
He got to taste huge fame, but also got to be a normal person again. Not optimal but kinda cool to
Glad Louie is back. He's the king of comedy in my book.
Was what he did creepy though? I don't know the details
@@galept "In 2002, a Chicago comedy duo, Dana Min Goodman and Julia Wolov, landed their big break: a chance to perform at the U.S. Comedy Arts Festival in Aspen, Colo. When Louis C.K. invited them to hang out in his hotel room for a nightcap after their late-night show, they did not think twice. The bars were closed and they wanted to celebrate. He was a comedian they admired. The women would be together. His intentions seemed collegial.
As soon as they sat down in his room, still wrapped in their winter jackets and hats, Louis C.K. asked if he could take out his penis, the women said.
They thought it was a joke and laughed it off. “And then he really did it,” Ms. Goodman said in an interview with The New York Times. “He proceeded to take all of his clothes off, and get completely naked, and started masturbating.”"
That's one example, he did it several times. Some people say shit like "they could just leave, he said he was gonna do it before he did it!!", as if that doesn't make it weirdo behaviour.
@@galept Do you consider someone standing in your way while they start masturbating creepy? Perhaps it's just a matter of perspective.
@@galeptCreepy as fuck.
LOUIEEEEEEE!
tell Nik dip I said PONCH!
HEEEHEG
dip, chips tv show, friends call ya poncherello?
not psychic, but I do have fun?
that was a fun day.
“I wouldn’t want it if they gave it to me”
'life is a zero sum game' is ignorant. hes speaking as a person who measured failure and success by fame, but life, not fame, is the zero sum. maybe he lived wrong and thats why he wanted to cream on chicks. 'bro,zero sum. if it wasnt i could kum wherever i wanted'. bringing everyone down with him. what a jerk
He started in 1985 when I was born. Damn....
Stonehenge lmao Theo is undefeated
Trying too hard if you ask me
Most people don’t miss notoriety since notoriety is a negative thing. It’s the state of being notorious
The Frank Lucas analogy is hilariously acute.
Louie was an incredible show. I loved that he had a black actress play his wife, which was a white character. It was really something I believe in, any actor should be allowed to play a character. Who cares. Louis was very forward-thinking.
Shame he had a bad habit of jerkin it in front of unwilling audiences.
Great video, interviewer and interviewee.... but at no point did it discuss Louis' feelings on whether he misses the fame, just how fleeting it can be.
Great episode
7:18 is brutal if you think about it
I find this portion of the interview to be purposefully disingenuous. The way they talk about how he’s no longer famous implies that either A he just got unlucky and/or B he did something minor like had been an alcoholic and needed to get help. That’s not what happened. He forced himself on to multiple women over the years. Some of which during his shows.
In real life if one would do that, they would never be hired to work in that profession again. Nobody would blink an eye, but in the entertainment industry it seems to be the opposite.
I say this as someone who had viewed Louis as the greatest stand up of the modern era. But it needs to be pointed out he’s not the victim. Yet on this show, Tom Segura’s, Joe Rogan’s, they frame it that Louis lost everything because of bad luck and we should feel sorry for him. None of these hosts have asked him about what he did. Nobody has asked “Why did you do that?”
I know I will be in the minority on this, but I stand by that he needs to be held accountable. Not saying he should be in prison or can’t leave his home, but he is still finding success in the stand up world when he shouldn’t be.
He asked them.
Otherwise, why haven't they pressed charges?
I’m a huge Louis CK fan and nothing has changed!!
Me too!I’ve been following him since he started! All his work is amazing! He’s a charismatic human being and we’re all blessed to have lived in his time! …and I live half a planet away from him!
@@vomvistisstistegi No issues at all with him??
one of the goats 🐐
"Louie" was a great series. Great writing. AND so was "Lucky Louie" with Pamela Adlon.
he doesnt miss it because he still has it lol
He's never asked about him being cancelled and why? It's just not mentioned. Weird.
How much more needs to be said? Does he have to die on his sword for the rest of his natural life?
@@Durzel No. But some mention of him masturbating in forn of women might be a talking point. There is one thing about falling on a sword and another thing about never ever mentioning it ever again as if it never happened. Kind of relevant as well as his job as a stand up in commenting on others behaviour. Relax.
@@royfr8136 Yeah, it's definitely relevant when he's talking about how success that keeps expanding will blowup eventually. It's almost like he's suggesting his fall from fame was like some eventual turn from audience sensibilities or something and not because of a very specific thing that derailed his career when it was going really well.
Louie was a great show.
Is this a Celsius commercial?
THE SHOW IS AMAZING if anyone is interested in checking it out, so so funny and so many weird scenes!!
Well, hate to tell him, but he's still got the fame and notoriety, just for very different reasons. Sadly those kind of hollywood cases you never really know what went on, but sadly when I watch his old comedy, which really was brilliant, then some of it is "whoa, thats got a whole new context now". But that was never the main stuff I watched for anyway. His bit about his grandmother in the nursing home made think about society in a whole new way. He did a bit about 'bacon' and how God comes down and says "what are you doing, there's food ON THE GROUND......yeah, but not with bacon". That was social commentary that Bill Hicks would have been proud of. And I do think maybe part of the reason 'suddenly' some people took those accusations seriously was that Louis was that huge and really starting to do SOCIAL satire and not just 'this happened to ME" kind of stuff. Same with Bill Hicks and George Carlin, the main stream has always been really terrified of standups who don't have a filter. I wish him well, but he's a guy who really only sells me on the comedy in his acts, not sure if his new one is worth money or not.
He is '' The Goat ''
a Reassuring conversation... just keep doing what you do to the best of your ability every time on stage... if that Watchtower light hits you at the right time great... if not... oh well, you're still doing what you're doing to the best of your ability
If he actually didn’t, he wouldn’t be on podcasts
Stonehenge.. ? Lmao. I think he meant size of venue not oddness.
04:08 It kills me that Louis' Achilles heel was masturbating. 💀💀 Talk about a getting-down-to-earth moment.
Especially because he joked about it a lot.
@@BullyMaguire4ever I can't say I was surprised.