Stavros and Theo Discuss Transgender Issues
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- Опубліковано 10 кві 2023
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As a trans woman, I def see where Theo is coming from with the role of the company amid the backlash. For her own mental health, I am not sure if Dylan should have taken the gig; however, she's no stranger to being the right's trans scapegoat, so maybe she was ready for it. I think what gets lost in all of this, especially for straight people, is that Bud Light has been making LGBT targeted ads for YEARS and is one of the most popular beers at gay bars all across the US. In a business sense, this is a perfect storm for them. All they have to do is sit by as crazy right wingers and transphobes literally destroy product they already payed for themselves, and then all of the normal people will either continue buying it as normal and/or start buying it again when people stop talking about it in two weeks. They benefit from the huge amount of exposure, and most of the backlash will fall in Dylan herself. There are also a wide variety of alcohol companies that make lgbt ads, Jack Daniels, Absolut Vodka, and Smirnoff are big ones just to name a few. I think this is just one of the many times the right tries to virtue signal their outrage over LGBT issues, so they can seem righter than thou.
Also just to respond to the puberty blockers thing. I understand the hesitancy where Theo is coming from. If you're not exposed to trans people, hearing that some adolescents can be prescribed medication for trans issues can be quite a scary thought. But I ask you to dig a little deeper and see past the sensationalized rhetoric surrounding this issue. No, a young kid or teen cannot go to a doctor's office and get hormones after one conversation with a doctor. There are a wide variety of steps that one must take before they can even be considered for them as well, usually this involves a year at least of therapy, a signed letter from said therapist, and at least 6 months to a year of social transition. When I started hormones in liberal NJ, I was required by my doctor to have socially transitioned for a year and get that doctors note that I talked about before that social transition is usually the first thing that a potentially trans kid is told to explore. Try out a new name, present your clothes in a different way, etc.. After all of that a decision is then made between the child, their parents, and a physician/endocrinologist. Like all medical decisions, it should be up to the patient, their parents if they are a minor, and medical professionals - NOT THE GOVERNMENT. The science is there if you're operating in good faith and it costs nothing to treat trans people with respect and dignity, especially in the climate that we live in now.
Apparently it cost Bud Light $5B’s to treat that dude with respect and dignity 😂
@@shaunacasale3311 the stock went down 3 bucks and it’s up today. they will bounce back
She? He’s a guy. A he
@@floppydong295 and you are a floppy dong. A floppy. Dong
Gays are not the same as trans lol, don't lump something natural with something requiring medical intervention.
Gays, Bi and lesbians should be lumped in with straight people tbh
Should iust be TQ+ HAHAHA
The best part of this is Stavros making fun of Kid Rock, not knowing Theo is friends with him lol.
The best part is Stavros doesn't know fuck all about business. Busch's stock is down over 30% since the dumb marketing stunt.
What a no balls having fat idiot!!! Doesn’t have the balls to call out this fake transformer!! Fuck Dylan and anyone who won’t call this sick shit out!!!
Kid Rock light's up a bag of potatoes on a couch next, lol.
F Kid Rock
Kid Rock grew up rich. Google "Kid Rock childhood home".
“Throw on some overalls” damn, stavros knows his non-binary people lmfao
@@PRR-ny6eq overalls are dope, cope harder
Tbf he's been living most of his adult life as a fat toothless lesbian so he knows the demographic.
The non-binary person naming themselves “Sock” is so accurate
Pleasently surprised with how thoughtful and respectful this was. I kinda get some of theos hang ups, but his willingness to learn is really reasuring.
Theo is the Ted Lasso quote, "Be curious, not judgmental", personified. I think that's why i respect him so much.
Theo kept coming back to the trans stuff LMAO. You conservatives are really obsessed with this shit.
Pushing transitioning on children is evil
@@Porklion you’re right. Good thing no one’s doing that
@@hamburgler227 All kinds of videos of parents speaking to the school boards about indoctrinating, and sexualizing children. A MAYOR just told one school board to either resign or be charged with pedophilia. Children are testifying about their horrible mistake of getting their breasts removed (transition surgery). I have no idea how you don't know any of this - OH WAIT, YES I DO, you only watch, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC and the BBC. And you're probably a fan of TYT and the NEW YORK TIMES. Transsexuality is a very big agenda, WOMAN OF THE YEAR - BRUCE JENNER? It is all madness, the feminist of all people, are okay with MEN stealing their awards. You are aware of the GIGANTIC CONTROVERSY over MEN PRETENDING LIKE THEY ARE WOMEN and then destroying all the women they compete against? BECAUSE THAT'S FAIR ACCORDING TO THE LEFTIST CLOWNS who have no idea what is happening in the world. Please note; GIRLS ARE NOT PRETENDING TO BE BOYS SO THEY CAN BREAK RECORDS! Trans vs Trans sounds like a solution to me - but no one will go for it because it doesn't piss enough people off.
@@hamburgler227 people are most fucking certainly doing that, and you goddamn well know it.
Theo is really, really fucking smart at how he approaches these socially driven subjects with questions that spark a conversation in a way that people can openly converse with each other with opposing viewpoints.
He’s incredibly intelligent
Empathy has a lot to do with it. Put yourself in somebody else's shoes. It's not that hard, but a lot of people are too lazy to do it anymore
@@dogchaser520nah. When children are involved and the ministry of truth. Forcing by law you to believe someone else's delusions as truth. You can keep your God damn shoes
@dogchaser520 Most people are reptile demons who lack the capacity, hence war and poverty.
Yea he really is. Although it’s hard for even Theo to make this guy interesting. All he wants to do is repeat talking points not have a conversation.
Theo seriously is one of the few people I’ve seen that can genuinely question anything from a space of really wanting to just know in a way where there is zero justification in giving him shit. Like any question he asks even when he’s joking my head just goes “ohshit he just really wants to know I hope someone gives him a good answer.” Lol
You need to see more people.
Most people are like this. Talk to your neighbors or people in your community. Get off corporate and social media. Try to avoid services that recommend you content
@@seanstars6637 says the guy surfing UA-cam for people to troll
He inspires me to continue thinking this way. Sometimes, it feels like I'm the only one.
Yeah he def has his very own sense of humor. The names he gives things are hilariously correct lol
A refreshing conversation. 👍🏼 The media needs to chill on trans people. I just want to quietly live my life as a trans woman, not be in the middle of a political warzone. We're only small minority of people.
You aren’t a woman though
@@itzzazrael5457 you aren’t loved by your parents either
@@itzzazrael5457 it takes absolutely 0 effort to be a decent human being. just mind your damn business and maybe you wouldn’t be so affected by someone else’s choice of lifestyle.
No you dont “Just” want that. When it comes time to vote for someone who supports transitioning kids , cutting off genitals , giving hormone therapy to children. You’re going to vote in favor of that instead of against it because of who you are. Trans or not these things are currently happening and the left (majority of who trans Vote for) are allowing it and even encouraging it. Doctors are making a fortunate off of transitioning kids (who statistically come to regret the decision). SURE BE TRANS no one cares what fully grown adults do. But when it comes to minors like leave the fucking kids alone.
@livs Quit fucking with children and you will.
“I think the mullet is a nice non-binary look” 😂😂
I thought he said Mullen lol
I cackled. Hilarious
And throwing on a pair of overalls.
😂😂😂
I screamed 😂
I will continue to not drink Bud Light, not because of who's is on the can, but because of what is in the can.
I will continue to drink bud light bc I like the taste but the trans stufff I don’t support just like I don’t support underage drinking idc what they put on the can what they put on the can doesn’t have anything to do with what I believe in so it shouldn’t be a issue i just want to drink a cold beer after a hard day of work but I feel like this shit is going way to far over board also how do real biological women feel that a male who pretends to be a woman is woman of the year lmfao
@Tobias Saibot I heard it's transexual bath water
Rice beer is most American beer!!!!!!!!how are du!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sooo brave of you... Lol
agreeed hahahah
This is how 2 people with different views have a respectful conversation kids
Incredible conversation, two people just chilling, calming talking about some heated topics 👏
For the record, Kid Rock was nowhere near middle class. He was wealthy as fuck since birth. Unless you consider a 22 room house, with horses, a barn, in ground pool and tennis court to be middle class..
lmao how did his image become trailer trash. odd choice but i guess he knows who will be buying his records
Not a fan of Kid Rock, but he's playing a character. It's theater, and he's very good at the role. And he knows his audience. Dude is shrewd.
Yeah who tells false stories of being poor.. when they were young???.. in Scranton?. . with corn pop?. ..😅
@@tharp42 yeah coming from rich shrewd people you learn to be shrewd
What’s the problem with him coming from a wealthy family?
Our boy Theo a lot smarter than he acts
Nah, he is smart in his actions and wisdom.
No way bruh
Theo’s always been smart. You must be new
Actually he realized this guy's stance and pulled back. He was testing the waters to not offend him and once he realized his beliefs he could barely talk and the stutter fest began. Believe what you want but when you see someone afraid to even talk about it, that's a problem.
He is but most of his fanbase is similar to that of Larry the Cable guy.
Trans guy here. what hurts most is all through childhood, cis men hit on me, tried to lure me to their car, asked my age when I was 12 to 16. When you turn them down, they might yell, cuss at you, follow you. unless you let em down easy, and that always felt like being an ant in an antlion's trap trying to claw your way out while they pull you in.
Now after my transition, I still can't feel safe. I've never been afraid of a dragqueen or a trans woman in life. I've always been afraid of men, still am. And a lot of men don't listen to girls or trans people, or least of all, abuse survivers. They only listen to the news 🤷
The thing is cis people respect homosexuals, gays, lesbians- but not the people who take it too far.
Lmao these trans females out here deserve to have the shit beat out of them for trying to date as women.
@Gobity I was always a tomboy growing up, socially transitioned in my teens and never took a step back. I'm totally sure this is what I want. Ironically the biggest roadblock was fear of being unlovable
Seen plenty of people in the trans community de-transition and even transition in the first place for a relationship, so it's true a lot of people don't do this for the right reasons. Hate to say something this generalizing but I'm under the impression most girls have the same childhood experience I had. I mean it's common, men creeping up on kids is all over the place. I wasn't attractive either, very poor andscrubby. The prettier girls and the girls who look older get it worse. I don't think for a second that I got special treatment from older men, I was the last one they would've picked to get fresh with
I think the majority of kids are approached by creeps period. I didn't have a friend who wasn't.
@@Joe-sg9ll it’s so funny mfs always attribute that to people transitioning without even thinking for a second what other factors could’ve gone into it, have u lived this persons life or something? why do u care so much about other people and what they doin with their own bodies? i bet it must suck to see more and more people finally being who they want in a world where u feel like everyone has to apply to ur goof ass standards😂
These are the two funniest non binary looking comedians in the game !
This is a better and calmer conversation than has happened on cable news in the past 25 years.
Stav is so left. Theo was biting his tongue in some instances and the rest he’s just not knowledgeable
@@brians2811 are you mad everyone doesnt have the same opinions as you?
@@codingwitheric is Straw Manning the new Manning brother? I'm sure some bland coder knows more about this than someone whos actually met and is friends with the very people they are discussing. Nice video thumbnails, you get them from coolmathgames?
Theo played nice to pacify his woke friend. Stavros is gonna pander for popularity.
@@sheridan7475 it’s true so much insincerity in the podcast world just a buncha smooth talking wise guys
Who is arguing that Trans can’t have jobs, basic human rights, etc? The only argument i hear about, from most people on the right, is not giving kids’ hormones or surgeries and not letting them compete in women sports. No one is saying they don’t deserve to live.
Chill bro your talking like a transphobe 🤣🤣
As someone who identifies as a 250 yr old alien I agree, leave the children alone or my people with abduct every child and leave you old people to touch each other and look at other wrinkly old people all day
They do have human rights just like everyone else. The issue is it's moving us into a state of tyranny masked by inclusivity. The power that some groups push for is bizarre. They don't need to be added to the civil rights movement, because let's be honest it's a choice.
shows you out of touch this piece of lard who hasn't seen his wang in 24 years is. We are coming from a way different angle
Dude.. 100%
Damn. Stav and Theo hitting many intelligent, refreshingly honest points with regards to having their finger on the pulse of society. Im impressed…
Stav is hittinh many intellegent points, theo is friends with Kid Rock
And we've now discovered that Stavros is gay ! Or bi
@@user-nj1zu2nf1x youre the problem
@@man.itz.ashtonhe is gay
@robertgonzales9036 he's hitting no.points. dudes got 2 brain cells and both can only come up with shitty comedy skits. Dudes never touched a woman in his life either so he's full of shit as well
Great convo. A lot of ppl are just new to this concept like Theo and it’s nice to see stavros calmly explaining shit without being confrontational
Stavros is the best kind of ambassador for this shit to regular dudes
If a trans M to F isn’t disclosing the fact they are trans while performing sex work; they put themselves into a dangerous situation. Also the discussion on the use of hormones and surgery for young children is valid. We don’t know how much influence a child’s environment is teaching them to act a certain way vs. natural tendencies.
They dont give kids gender surgeries.
@@timothycarey3883 it's astonishing you think you're telling the truth
@@FloridaGoth it's true.
@@timothycarey3883 Inb4 "They do and that's a good thing."
@@timothycarey3883 they absolutely are, I've seen the reports
Budweiser is just water that identifies as beer but is not committed enough to make a full transformation.
THAT'S what I'm talking about! Keep the jokes about Bud Light tasting nasty coming! 😂😂😂
I, as a 23 year old female with a husband who literally loves intense German beer, will continue to drink light weak beer😭😭
@@corablah9809 shiner bock sux...
Funny enough I actually saw somebody on another video who was post-op, saying people that didn't get bottom surgery were not really women LOL, oh the irony😂
It really is the perfect trans beer then huh?
Every single trans person I have ever met has been super fun to be around and nice as hell
That’s why the right wing is so obsessed with trying to stop trans rep in media and these topics being taught in school. They want us to be a faceless mass of hysterical degenerates who hate every value you as the average citizen hold dear. As soon as you hear a really good joke from a trans person or a story about them having car troubles or their fishing trip they had last week you start to see them as people with hobbies and struggles just like you.
That doesn’t mean they aren’t insane 😂.
I’m sure Ted Bundy seemed nice too
@@bryce9083 wtf same applies to you….
@@Puppy_Puppington exactly it could be anyone, but much more likely to be the mentally ill like the gender dysphoric 😂
@@bryce9083 my best friend is trans. I’ve known her for 3 years and she’s a lovely person. Don’t slander trans people as “crazy”: it’s just not true and a very damaging idea to propagate.
I can tell Theo doesn't agree with this guest at all but doesnt want to start arguing, but this guy is talking like they're on the same page.
Nahhhhh Stove was totally off on this and dodging what Theo was was hitting on. Companies DEFINITELY virtue signal. And not to assume but I have a strong feeling Stove feels this way because he in some way indulges in that lifestyle.
He’s gay and his deek is smol soooo
i mean i’m pretty sure stavvy is openly socialist/commie so almost all his views are going to align hard left. doesn’t mean he’s not funny af, just means his views are hive mind and ideological
I agree.
Stavros is half a trans anyway. He would do anything to get sucked off look at him. He looks like a they them and his comedy is just asking the audience questions. Who pays money to answer someone’s questions? He is a problem. Hope AI takes him out not like he can do much anyway. Might have a heart attack if he had to pick anything up
@@jake.porter LOOL his grandfather and dad were both anti fascist revolutionaries, actually standing against Nazis, while you cucks blame a minority group like trans ppl, he just hates nazis in disguise like you
Every psychological topic that comes up, Theo is "well I know I struggle/d with that too" 😂
13:48 Theo's setup is so smooth watch the joke sink in as Stavs laugh grows in intensity.
“Being center-left, you have to support the trans community fully, without knowing wtf the trans community does”
-Nick Mullen
They teach little boys about cutting off their private parts. And what anal sex is. Not cool. WAKE UP.
They’ve really used that as a meme to evade criticism lol
You don't have to support them. You have to gtfo of their way when it comes to their personal lives. That's it. How hard is that? It's fvking easy. You can do it in your sleep.
What?
Nick Mullen
@nycguidovoice
If I had a trans son, I’d never speak to him again.
Because I would be speaking to HER.
This talk help me view some points I haven’t thought about before! Great podcast!
“Big John was a bear, dude…” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
When theo says “you young people” and the camera pans to stavros😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Thank you, this was such a respectful way to go about with this topic. You brought up a lot of seriously good points.
As someone with trans friends who i love dearly I appreciate the charity and empathy you guys showed in talking about this issue.
The craziest part is finding out that the CEO of Budweiser was a marine, and then became a CIA agent involved in covert ops.
And now promoting a woke brainwashing agenda for money from Blackrock, promoting sex change Op's.
how is that crazy? it’s literally the norm for people in government to be offered well paying corporate jobs after their service. They’re often even promised jobs before their service is over to so that regulations will be made in their favor.
plus if you think the CEO of one of the largest beverage manufacturers in the entire world is paying close attention to a random marketing campaign then i don’t think you know what CEOs do lol
CEOs know what going on. They get briefed. They sign off on campaigns. Chill out
@@tylerdavis849 lmao no they don't. The CEO is leading a global 500 company that owns hundreds of international brands and thousands of products, he's not dilly-dallying on some random ass marketing campaign. he has way more important shit to do
@@WellActualllyyy I’m sure you’d like to think so. They get briefed.
I was pleasantly surprised at how empathetic and thoughtful you guys were
Have some empathy for the children Theo wants to castrate.
Thoughtful? 🤣🤣🤣 fat boy was parroting leftist horseshit
Crazy when you watch more then a 2 second sound bite
Stav is the best, finally a mainstream comic who is based and empathetic
@@valdewar8093 it's an act lol
I think we should all err on the side of "why do I care?". If it isn't affecting you, why waste energy frothing at the mouth about it? I do think that children shouldn't be allowed to make permanent changes to their body until they reach adulthood. However, the issue as a whole is representative of all social issues we fight about. People overreact because media highlights points of division for ratings.
exactly. Kids shouldn't be concerned with sexuality to begin with. But why tf should I care what a sexually developed adult does to their body?
@connormcdonald5075 i agree with the caveat that I do think children should be given the freedom to develop their own opinions about themselves and shouldn't be shamed if they don't fit into the binary. Children learn about sex whether we want them to or not, so the parent should discuss this (at an appropriate age) so they are taught about sex from them and not the world. If parents are worried about trans people on TV, then they should limit their exposure by parenting (imagine that, haha). If you don't want them watching Bert and Ernie, for example, then use parental controls. You should discuss these topics so they can adequately process any positive or negative influence. Parents seeking to control every show, movie, book, etc, because they don't want it to influence their children, don't realize that the world isn't going to conform 100% to their beliefs, and therefore you have to take the initiative and be an active parent.
The follow up question should have been, if its such a low percentage of the population, why then is it so over represented. Every movie, tv show, ads, must include trans people.. nike, bud light are juste the latest ones.. the push back is because of that.
Why is it overrepresented. Trans people are getting legislated out of existence.
Are you living under a rock?
While I’m tempted to suggest nefarious reasons, I think those are left to the playmakers in government, honestly. The real answer is that this is what gets eyeballs and corpos see something we don’t: they’re betting the farm that this ideology is the future.
lol corporations bad so I'm voting right wing
@@mutestingray wtf, unbiased and critical thinking exercised in a youtube comment? Never thought i'd see the day 🤣🤣
It’s not weird. Trans people have hardly ever been represented before. More representation is not a bad thing. Why the fuck does it bother you? Billionaires and government elites are literally robbing you and making your life worse every day and you can’t get your goddamn eyes off of some people who identify differently. You’re more concerned with making trans folk feel unwelcome and marginalized than you are about your own fucking interests. Things that actually matter. I will never understand this kind of braindead bigotry.
Props to these guys for keeping an open line of dialogue, we need more of this!
they work for disney and are towing the corporate doctrine
Thank God you commented this. 10,000x on every UA-cam video just isn’t enough!!!
@@whitb6111 lol right what a twat
Taking one side of an issue isn't an open dialog.
@Wes D they were respectful and curious about a topic they don't know much about, sounds open to me. How would you go about opening it up more, if I may ask?
It's weird seeing Stav being so well-spoken and not just cracking up laughing at calling someone gay.
Thing is tho Lea Thomas or whatever was a fully intact male for competition just on hormone blockers. The women that had to change in the locker room with him were the ones that said so.
i can understand parents being nervous about their kids being influenced into thinking they’re trans when they otherwise wouldn’t have
Exactly. No one cares what an individual does with their body but what scares the shit out of normal folks is the explosive rise within the youth who are identifying as trans at a rate that is seemingly impossible to explain without attributing it to social pressures.
i think social pressure could be the case. however i always point to the argument of people being more accepted and they feel more comfortable to transition.
very similar to when people who were left handed became more accepted there was a big boom of people who were left handed. now it has evened out pretty much in our modern society and id be curious to see if the same thing will eventually happen with trans people
@@jakevanderveen55 that’s the thing the majority of ppl who say they are trans aren’t. They wouldn’t have been. It’s the same think that happened a couple years ago where people especially younger kids up to 16-17 said they had tics and it was something you would see on tiktok all the time
@@justin2956 I can empathize with the fear that kids are being brainwashed, but when only time will tell. To me, the complete and total disdain society has for trans folks is enough for me to think and transition is legit
I think everyone has a right to their own body, of course. I also think it's important to encourage children to be comfortable with themselves. That being said, I wouldn't trust a teenager to get a tattoo they like for more than a year, let alone major cosmetic surgery.
@13:48 him him
perfect example of how theo is a fucking genius
Great way to throw Asians under the bus!
I’m Korean-American & this is the first time I heard this. I thought there were tons of Asian trans. Older generations, not just Asians, used to place much importance in having a son but that type of thinking is changing. I’ll need to see what Bobby Lee thinks about that. Luv that Theo.
I spit my coffee out when he said samurai/ninja. Did not expect that.
Interesting move having Ron Jeremy there, very insightful
The only thing I get from all this controversy, is that advertising only works on simple people.
Tobias has the right of it. Everyone is influenced by propaganda, even when you're very well armed against it. (Advertising having been born out of the propaganda industry, especially as pioneered by Bernays, Freud's nephew.) Advertising works on everyone. Look at the clothes you're wearing, the things you buy, what you want without questioning. I have yet to meet a person who is immune.
@@dogchaser520 No, it actually doesn't. Lying can work on everyone, gaslighting can work on everyone but the truth. The truth can't be propaganda because the truth will have facts to support it. Unfortunately everything now is based on feeling. The fact is they lost 4 billion dollars but feel it's a good idea to keep going. Thats propaganda. There is a major difference between the truth and propaganda. It's simply based on facts. Thats why all of it fell apart. Even the master at it, Hitler eventually paid the ultimate price. The truth will always prevail. Unfortunately, most people aren't very fucking bright. Just look at the Balenciaga collection. People following trends to look homeless. Advertising and propaganda are similar but propaganda has a nefarious agenda. If you can convince people to spend $500 on a paper clip(Prada) you can convince an idiot to do anything. Unfortunately most people are not that bright.
@Tobias Saibot you're right and it's literally everywhere. But an individual can choose to pay attention to it or not. 5 seconds after I hit "skip" on whatever ad played in this video I couldn't tell you what it was for. I buy beer from a local brewery that doesn't advertise because it's convenient and I like the taste.
@@dogchaser520 im largely immune. dont buy big name brand clothes. food i buy is almost all basic produce/meat. for stuff like condiments or whatever i usually try the no name brands and compare rather than pay a premium for no reason. cars ive owned are based on things like fuel efficiency and reviews i read rather than advertisements etc... some people are definitely more immune than others to being influenced by ads. maybe no one is 100% immune but i'd say unironically i'm 99% immune.
@@gaysfortrump2024 I'm pretty similar. In fact, advertisements create brand aversion for me because I dislike being manipulated. I actively avoid buying branded products and somewhat secretly despise people who wear branded clothing. It's a prejudice for sure, but I can't help but feel the deepest contempt mixed with pity at seeing someone not just advertise a product, but pay a premium for the privilege to do so. The vanity of buying a branded product so you're not "off-brand" is so deeply pathetic that inspires revulsion in anyone with a modicum of intelligence.
Watching advertisements makes me feel physically ill, somewhat anxious, and occasionally furious. Nonetheless, that does still mean I'm being manipulated by the propaganda, but in the opposite intended direction most of the time. Still influence, though! You need serious training, diligence and critical thinking to try and separate yourself from that influence. As you say, you're still not perfectly immune. And at the very least, it affects others around you, which in turn affects your life through interaction with those people. They may provide certain subtle frames of reference that influence your thinking, propagating the mind-virus unconsciously, and you wouldn't even be aware it's happening. But fortunately, yes, we can train ourselves. Media literacy and propaganda resistance training should be taught to all children. This would also help avoid the "fake news" effect. Yes, of course all news is "fake" in that it's biased and has a motive. The funny thing with the "fake news" decriers is that they usually opt to get news from even more biased and propagandizing sources that lure them in through an addiction to outrage and smug superiority. Can't say I'm immune to that, either.
Definitely don’t think kids should be exposed to anything sexually related early in life because it doesn’t allow them to fully develop and understand what’s happening to them but I do agree adults should be allowed to do what ever they want even if I personally don’t understand it fully it’s a free society for a reason
Exactly just don’t mess with kids … everything else is fair game
Next time someone screams about banning "children's books" all you have to do is Google the book "Gender Queer" and show them pictures from it. Anyone that is fine with a book that has drawings of young boys sucking each others dicks being available to young kids in school is completely mentally deranged.
@Femto Or you could just be respectful and call people what they wanna be called. That's like going up to every religious person and telling them god isn't real for no reason. Like cool we all have opinions but you can just be respectful and move on. takes like this just let me know you're a dumbass why start a conflict when there's literally no reason to. Just be respectful and move on with your life
what do you mean by exposing them to sexually related stuff?
@@veryfinan5187 they mean learning or being exposed to anything remotely gay. They don't actually care about the wellbeing of children. The same people crying about fake grooming right now were those supporting Trump cutting in children health and welfare programs a few years ago. It's all bluff.
It's nice to see a good faith discussion. Clearly Theo has hesitation around the subject, but was still respectful and tried to articulate real motivations of fear that people have. Stav pretty much echoed my exact thoughts on most of it, which is cool because I was sure where he would be on that. This is exactly how discourse should occur, good for them. It's a little concerning to me to see Theo gravitate to some of the right lately though. And here's the thing there's nothing wrong with hanging out with people i ideologically disagree with, people are more than politics, but some of these people are abhorrent, like Bar and Peterson. And those people don't deserve a platform imo.
Based comrade Stavros. Getting into class consciousness here.
Congratulations to Dylan Mulvaney on day 0 of being a woman.
congrats to you on day 0 of being a funny man
You look like a Carlos Mencia alt account the way you're stealing other people's jokes.
@@abbie2863 what’s funny is that you can’t even define what a man or a woman is. Also did you just assume my gender?
@@abbie2863 I and many others laughed Albert- I mean, Abbie...
Yikes! Imagine being so scared that trans people exist that it triggers your incel rage this hard.
Hysterically & and ironically, this was probably the best conversation on the topic I have heard
Never would I thought stavi and Theo would interest me in the discussion of this topic.
No way… fat boy was just parroting leftist horseshit
Definetly ironicslly
The goalpost shifting from both sides on this issue is wild
This is the most responsible conversation on the topic I've ever heard
I saw a post recently of a girl who said she was a tom boy as a kid. She didn't hangout with girls, had boy friends only, only did boy activities. She said she wanted to be a boy. She now is an adult, stunning and very happy with being a woman. If she was raised in this generation in school her whole life could have been ruined. Body mutilation and taking heavy doses of hormones has irreversible effects. Majority of people agree, "live and let live", as do I but when you glamorize being trans and see all the acceptance and uplifting the media is pushing, this can cause a lost child to seek community and acceptance in something that could cause them so much harm in the long run especially in cases where the child is just confused about life as everyone is in their own way in adolescence.
Anecdotal..cool story bruh
@@nrw5513 how? Alot of people have come out with similar experiences.
@@lucykaplan5555 lol you can’t get any dumber spoiler she was always a girl
@@nrw5513 “anecdotal” you could say that about the amount of people who have had reassignment surgeries and actually been happy lmao. Pushing this shit on kids is nothing less than abuse
Puberty blockers are completely reversible and surgery doesn’t occur unless the person has lived years as publicly trans and is over 18
Man this guy always has the worst, middle school level takes
He's willing chop his dick off? Let him cheat and beat all the women! She has a good pussy? I'm love me some non-binary chicks! Dude is an immature wokester.
He looks like a straight up pedo
Yet here we are
Stavs politics all boil down to "what will get me the most top?"
You realize him and Theo Agee and you’re the only transphobic pos tf out of here
So many great bits in this
Thanks for helping me feel not so tired.
I wonder what Stone Cold Steve Austin thinks
Fr😂
Them two birds
Best comment
Stone Colds based af
Stone cold drinks coors brother...now give me a he'll yeah!!!!!
I can see Stavro transitioning
The dude that looks like a pedo stereotype making fun of pedos is the best joke.
correct
Hahahaha!! I was thinking the same thing!
I can't believe how almost nobody is pointing out how creepy this dude looks. And a hardcore leftist. What a surprise
My two favorite comedians coming together. Dreams do come true.
Lol right. I’d love to hang with them.
Stav? Really? That gay is fat and gay
damn your standards are in the fucking toilet huh
Stav sucks
Stavros is McDonald humor lmao his stand up is mid af
Stavros doesn’t fully understand the situation but has formed this solid opinion around statistics he thinks he’s seen.
His lack of facts was scary considering he's effectively championing it in this clip. For me I feel his opinion is based on one fact. That he had some as he put it "They/them flowers.
Everything he said sounded like a sound bite from CNBC
whatever bud light is about essentially doesn’t matter. we all know corporations don’t give a fuck and just pander. still doesn’t mean his message is wrong, trans deserve respect and the right to live with dignity
@@yaego overplayed. Mental illness deserves nothing but help
No one naming the facts he got wrong. Classic.
This is literally the last two people I would EVER expect to have a serious, sincere conversation about transgender people
idk he says no one would ever mutliate themselves to win something, but i look at all the plastic surgery instagram girls get and i have serious doubts.
@@nullakjg767 his take on that is completely ignorant. thats not the point of the other argument.
There’s a picture of Kid Rock drinking a bud light right next to Cross dresser hanging out from the 00s
No offense to Stavvy here, but he has the mentality of a junior high student. Always talking about sex and food and engaging in all manner of debauchery. Not exactly the intelligent take I'd want for this topic haha
I feel like the bit about having no girls not being attracted to you resulting in you thinking there's no chemistry with women so your only option of finding love is with guys is so spot on for me. Like I had bulimia in my teen years and had such low self esteem I went crazy and hallucinated girls thinking that I was cute then ugly for like 7 years straight. No joke every class period at school for 7 years was "acceptance," "rejection" over and over again. Before my eating disorder I knew I thought girls were pretty. This was even after when I was sexually assaulted as a kid. Like to this day I thought I was gay and maybe I am but maybe I'm bi.
I feel like you’re speaking to me. I’ve lived my life as a gay guy and now I’m like… maybe I’m not as gay as I thought. I always thought of myself as obese and disgusting and just assumed that a woman would ever want to be with me sexually. My sexual experiences with men have been meh and in my last relationship I almost never wanted to have sex while my boyfriend wanted to have sex like twice a day; it put a bit of a strain on our relationship. I had to evaluate why I have always felt my relationships have felt “off” in some way and then I was like… maybe it’s because I am not as attracted to men as I thought I was and maybe it’s because I am thinking about women a lot.
@@DanEMO592 Given the natural world's need for "Man plus woman" I'm inclined to think "straight" is everyone's default and it is our environment that determines attraction. Sexuality is CRAZY complex. The "born that way" narrative seems less science-based and more like it was born out of desperation by the gay community as a reaction to the hate that gay people receive. (It's harder to hate someone for something out of their control.)
Stavros looks like his hair is trying to escape😂
Maybe he should listen to what actual women like Riley Gaines feel like when grown men are changing in their locker room.
Watch some of Lia Thomas' interviews and you see the ABSOLUTE lack of self awareness when they say how "proud of themselves" they are, hoe hard they worked... etc.
Zero sportsmanship.
The type of person to push little kids over in an Easter Egg hunt.
Absolute narcissist
This is an example of part of the problem, Stavros knows some half truths and believes things that are false and uses those in conversation like they are true.
Dude gets every talking point from braindead corporate news you can tell. You hear one of his opinions and you can accurately predict every single other one. Not a single individual thought.
Yep, the FL menstrual cycle thing isn't true. Lia Thomas didn't have a sex change. Most conservatives don't hate trans ppl or drag queens but against denying reality and giving children hormones or bringing them to drag shows. Stav makes me want to vomit here.
He is just trying to get into the Bill Burr club, there are fucking stellar clips of him mocking Joe Rogan on Cumtown yet he acted incredibly agreeable and toned down on his show to where it's not even worth listening to.
@@BattleBro77 100%. The fact that he said something along the lines of do you think Lia Thomas would cut his d*ck off for a bronze medal shows how ignorant he is, dudes still got a dick and he's been smashing records and getting gold.
He just supports trans people wtf are you people talking about lmao maybe he doesnt watch any media?? Maybe hes just not a pos who cares what other people decide to do.
This is the first time I've listened to stavros outside of his standup, super smart and I like his views and his crowd work is refreshing. This guy is going to be at the top. Lessss go
Buckle up then! He just seems like good people.
The overweight guy thinks that the reason people don’t want men in dresses dancing sexually for kids is because they might go farther. He seems oblivious to the idea that the sexual dancing is the problem.
Exactly. You send them to the church so that a MAN in PANTS AND NOT A DRESS can dance in front of them. Or they can dance for them.
Lots of girls are transitioning in groups of friends that know each other. That's a pretty curious coincidence for a 1% event. It is a textbook social contagion.
Interesting, do you have a source? I'm just curious
Thank you. Stavvy is way wrong on this one. The dislike ratio is the worst I've seen on a Theo video in a while.
Can i convince you to transition?
@@bmoney28 We're talking about children and mentally ill people who are especially susceptible to this kind of stuff. Not normal adults lol
@BrandonMag No but I bet you could be convinced
The amount of factual inaccuracies on Stavros’ side are nuts. No bill like that in Florida, whoops. Should prob fact check him Theo lol.
Don’t say gay bill
@@TiffanyMaryJean that's the left's nickname for a bill prohibiting pornography in school libraries and discussing sex with young students. the period thing was pulled out of someone's ass somewhere and appeared on this show like a game of telephone. it's against federal law to harass or discriminate against someone based on their gender identity or sexual orientation. the two do not cancel each other out.
I don’t have a problem with trans adults, do what you want with your life. It’s the children that I see an issue with
😭😂😂😂😂 I’m throwin on some overalls. I’m just hangin out.
Honestly, Would you let Stavros watch your kids? lol
Why not? Better than a transphobic religious zelot watching them🤷♀️.
Close up or with binoculars?
If I knew him for years, yeah sure. Why not? He's self-secure.
He offered candy to my kids the other day, I heard them yelling “stranger danger” I looked and I seen starvos speeding away in a white van
Hell no.
Great dialogue between two people who trust each other enough to have it in the public eye
When i was younger And ignorant we had a roommate whom was gay. Not one of my issues with them had nothing to do with his 'prefrence'....but when he acted like a shitty person.....We had 'Clashes'.
Humanity needs a morality check.
People are Just people....Anywhere you go on this planet.
Thanks to you both for the episode.
Trans people can be shitty too lol no side is without it's faults or people that make everyone else look bad
Can't see what you wrote....must be hiding. All the best. FATE , 'Finds' us all.....AND those we leave behind.
People who can't define their personality from their biology are inherently annoying.
Theo is a wise dude
Love these guys for being so open to these ideas and something that people really don't get is that drugs especially like horomone blockers and whatnot are incredibly expensive and not something that trans people are able to get easily get. Like I've heard the joke that a kid can just walk into a doctor's office and ask to be the opposite gender when that's just not how it works, not everyone is privileged enough to have the money or even be in the safest place to get that kind of treatment. And even then they still might not approve of you for the fuck of it. Trans people are always forced to prove they're trans by the government 24/7, trans people aren't the big man you should be working against, they're called a minority for a reason.
You can tell stavros has no kids and hates his family lol
😂
😂 dudes so sad
You can tell he is miserable. He treats his body like a dumpster
The guy laughs constantly...
He is happier than you guys will likely ever be lmao. All upset making assumptions of a guy you don't know 😂.
It’s almost like that’s why he’s fat
Just to correct Stavros’ on the period tracking comment 😂 It was actually 2 separate news articles that through the grapevine, merged together into one story.
First, a Florida high school almost made it a rule to answer questions about your menstrual cycle to play on women’s sports teams.
Second, since all this AI scare is happening and the Roe vs. Wade event, women have been telling each other to delete period tracking apps to prevent proof of criminal activity in states where abortion is illegal.
Hope this helps, love you so much Theo! ❤
Are you telling me there wasn’t a “don’t say period bill” ? 😂
@@kimmi8389not sure?
He also said that swimmer “cut his nuts off” to compete with females. Not true, he still has male genitalia and shared locker rooms with biological women, with no warning. Stavros said a lot of shit that he was wrong about.
@@UnknownWarriorZz oh wow! such a misinformed man.
@@UnknownWarriorZz yeah Stavros appears to be a lefty and just doesn’t understand that the general public doesn’t like this shoved down their throats
Stavros... not every trans person has bottom or top surgery, or has taken hormones that 'level the playing field.' And it's a trans person's fundamental right to take the physical form that is most comfortable to them. It's not a fundamental right to participate in sports, and it's definitely not fair for someone to compete in oppsite sex sports when they have already developed physical characteristics that give them an unfair advantage. All that said, I always will fight for the rights of trans people to have safe, happy, healthy lives... we have to be fair and realistic about things that are not fundamental.
The beginning of this video is the funniest thing I’ve ever seen.
Stavros is very empathetic, but definitely pulls some mental gymnastics to avoid any hard questions
It’s hard to listen to lol.. Theo is too nice.
He's a child that doesn't understand the world
@@yoloswagblazeit5004"yoloswagblazeit5004"
He’s annoying as shit. 😂
LOL ya'll conservative simps, not used to having your BS challenged. Stavors TOTALLY BUSTED Theo's stereotypes and straw men
Starvos: people making all these generalizations
Then generalizes the entire other side to make a point.
it's hard knowing how painfully stupid and right stav is
Man as a trans dude i really appreciate this video. Thank you theo, its nice seeing a comic whos just a normal dude with no political agenda whos accepting of the trans community or at least tolerant of it. And honestly i appreciate the point u made about trans ppl being over represented in the media, because when i compare how things are today to when i transitioned like 13 years ago, i swear things are worse now because the media has already given ppl and opinion of me and ppl like me before they even met me. So i wish they werent trying to cram trans stuff down everyones throats and just let us live like normal ppl. So thank you for mentioning that. You kick ass
I think this is something that could fit here, but my counter argument is "pandering vs reprisentation". As a trans woman, I love it when I see a good story with a well written trans character that is authentic. I do not like to see "filler episode with guest character you'll never see again who is trans so we can fake caring and give half woke statements about loving yourself with no consequences to anything aren't we great".
People judged trans people before they had as much time in the spotlight. And that judgement was rarely pne of peace, love, acceptance or tolerance even. Representation, good representation, does wonders. Capitalising on a group of people you don't understand so you can say a lot of things while saying nothing, does not help.
The whole "shoving down throats" thing is bullshit and was enough for me to suspect you are lying, but I'd rather treat a liar sincerely than an honest man as a fool. Isn't the lack of trans people in media forcing cis shit down our throats? Everything is political until it's accepted and normal. This argument rings empty.
Men can’t be women. And women can’t be men. Go to therapy.
@@bryce9083wow you really gottem with this one bryce
@@skyistaken1605 idk, from my perspective i see weird little things that seem like the representation is forceful in ways it doesent need to be. Like my little sister in law was playing the hogwarts legacy game and sironas character is trans right, and like i dont care i thought it was cute. But LITERALLY, as shes playing it i stg all the npc’s were like “have u talked to sirona? Sirona is so cool. Sirona is so funny” like jesus christ lol. I mean it just feels so fake. They commodify us, its almost always a marketing ploy. I can imagine as someone whos cis and is on the fence on trans issues, even little shit like that would just be so annoying. Or having caitlin jenner as a trans icon 😬 hopefully i dont have to explain that one lol. But like im not against trans representation lol. I just dont think representation is equal to liberation if that makes sense. All that capitalism has to offer trans people for “equality” is representation. It does very little to actually benefit my life. Like I said in my first comment, i feel like life was easier for me as a trans person when there was less media attention in general because people got a chance to know me before having an opinion on trans issues already. Hope that helped clarify.
@@savannah6508 not really 🤡. It’s basic science taught to 6th graders well at least it used to be taught, now students don’t know what to think.
Again. Get help.
someone tell Stav that you don't have to cut it off😂
I was going to say... Stav, Lia still has a penis. Ask the rest of the swim team how they know.
too late now
Stavros def swings that way
Was thinking the EXACT same thing
100%
what’s wrong w that
Yeh he openly does... he’s straight and he ain’t scared of trans women unlike urself?
@@lythyboo oh hush
30 years ago Stavros would've been the teacher sleeping with his students
30 years ago Stavros was negative 4 years old.
@@Peppersfirst hes 26?!?!? holy shit man looks like hew 40
30?
He’s 34? I think somewhere in that range
What the fuck is wrong with this comment section. Can’t even talk about trans people as human beings without being called a sex offender. Grow the fuck up people.
as a trans person this conversation was a little clumsy but I'm glad to see theo of all people essentially say trans rights.
Seek therapy
In the words of the great Michael Jordan. "Stop it, get some help."
As someone who spent years as a homeless drug addict, it’s crazy how good we have it in America yet how often I hear Americans talking about how bad things are here in America.
Everyone in the U.S. now has access to things that kings and queens couldn't have dreamed of in the dark ages. But we shouldn't compare our condition to medieval times or the 1800s... Rural white Americans and urban Americans of color have a standard of living significantly below that of any demographic in western Europe or Japan or even fkn Cuba in some cases. That's the comparison we should be making
Like, everyone has a smart phone because they're relatively inexpensive (see: slave labor in cobalt mines) but having a smart phone doesn't do you much good when you can't pay your medical bills and your house is forclosed on
Do you and be what you want, but keep your hands off the kiddos. (No surgery or hormones until they are fully grown adults and can make adult decisions) That is all conservatives want, end of story.
You dont get science do ya? Once you're an adult and have experience puberty, the transition is not only expensive but dangerous. Its why they dont give hormones to kids, they give hormone suppressants.
Based
One thing the media loves to do is try to push the idea that children are undergoing surgery, which just isn't happening. No children are getting gender reassignment surgery, and few actually use hormone blockers. Hormone blockers are also reversible btw
What!!! That's crazy we need to turn every single kid we can at the youngest age possible. We need drag shows every Friday at schools and we need the teachers to tell our kids how they should feel . Says every other woke dumbass. Just typing that out as a joke made my stomach turn and made me so angry.
For real though your comment needs repeated on every video with this topic because so many people think conservatives want to control everything and want to not let anyone be who they want.
Stavros is missing the mark, lot of hypotheticals and feel good emotions
so what is the mark??
Nah he’s just saying stuff you don’t agree with.
Never trust people that always say “do whatever you want” “who gives af” because in reality they just dont give a fuck about you at all they are more afraid of offending you because it looks bad on them than they are with possibly offending you but telling you the truth and helping you in the long run.
@@benjamin5726 thats deep
@@ebbb365 think about it bro. Its really a hopeless thing to say and it reflects with Stavros lifestyle…he doesn’t give af about his own health why would he care about anything else.
Wouldn’t be bad if Lia Thomas was taking Bronze in college swimming…But it’s 1st place Gold every time. Wake the hell up Stavros
*transphobes seething in the comments*
No one is scared of trans people
Stavros is completely wrong about that Florida tracking girls periods thing, a simple google search shows DeSantis nor anyone working under him developed, introduced and backed the mandate. However, the mandate was backed by multiple nationwide medical groups such as the American Academy of Family Physicians, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American College of Sports Medicine. All the mandate does is it changes 5 questions regarding women's periods to make them mandatory instead of optional, these optional questions were already a thing prior, going back at least 20 years.
Gotta love people who just read headlines and twitter posts and treat it as fact
It's still insane lol.
@@VannywiththeFanny Just as insane as banning books like "Gender Queer" that show drawings of young boys sucking each others dicks, right?... You're deranged.
@@VannywiththeFanny sexualizing kids should be normalized, huh?
@@707romo707 Nobody is doing that.
Keep following that news cycle sh33p.
There is a difference in living your life as trans and then promoting it to very young kids.
"Kid Rock grew up rich too.." "yeah I think his family owned a car dealership." Hahaha that has to be the biggest troll ever from Theo - Kid Rocks dad is Bob Rock who produced a ton of very successful albums.
The trans swimmer was getting naked in the women's room and still had her male parts. The women said no one told them so it was uncomfortable. I do think this woke movement is hurting gay, trans and even racial issues. People are becoming less open minded and now feel like we are the enemy.
*his
Woke crap hurts everyone imo. I don't care what or who someone wants to be.
But as an adult biological female, I do not want a person with a penis in the bathroom or locker room with me. Get the boy parts taken off first.
It's also very insulting that people are being named women of the year , especially the ones that still have a penis. When women like me have been women all of our lives.
As for children, there should be no sexualized content anywhere. Drag shows, strippers, books and talks about sex, gender, gay, trans, straight, etc. Idk what they can't just be little kuds.
You are the enemy of reality and nature
@@White_Breeder wow so brave
"her male parts"😂😅😂😅 well that is the issue isn't it?