The only movement tech I left off this list which I mentioned towards the end of the video is GROUND SKATING. I don't think it is currently super useful for many areas of the game, nor is it the most consistent to do. Others mentioned SNAP SKATING. For PvE snap skating is borderline useless. For PvP it might be better, but this video is geared towards PvE.
snap skating is really good because it works on stasis and strand if u wanted an icarus dash like ability. combine it with a bunny hop and a scroll wheel.
While it can only be used sparingly, I feel like ground slam thundercrash speed deserves a mention. Also bubble skating but that is far less viable than the others.
Hunter ships transition is one of my favourites, something so satisfying about landing perfectly in the middle island after hitting 2 well-timed blinks.
For anyone that’s doing mountaintop jumping you want to be as close to the initial explosion as possible to get the most out of the boost. So lower mobility and hopping is the best way to gain height
Out of the respect for your hard work and diligence that I have seen in your video that I do not see in most, I will do as you ask and leave a comment. Well skating is something that I learned last week as a returning day one player. Some of your other methods I heard them called by a different name that does make more sense. The sparrow corkscrew string, is what I'm calling it because it makes me think of quantum physics and coding. That is new to me.
btw, vortex frame eager edge swords are actually better for well skating then the crafted sword, the velocity you get off vortex frames is so much faster and is just as easy to use
For the lumina grapple, if you simply hold up on a stick on controller you can hit it basically every time so long as you are quick enough with the grapple. For some reason when you are aimint straight up it will kick down so holding up negates that. That said I usually just use navigator because its easier for hitting on other spots as well.
I REALLY hope bungie buffs eager edge back to how it was when it came out. I would also love to see glaive skating come back as that was super fun but it was definitely broken in PvP. I will always remember that joy of the first time I used a sword with eager edge. Day 1 of the 30th anniversary. The first weapon I got from dares was Half Truths with Thresh and eager edge. I looked at the perk and didn't think anything of it. A few hours later I was on the EDZ and put the sword on and WOOOSH. I think I actually yelled "Oh my god sword skating is back" I unfortunately missed worldline skating and always wanted to do it. So when I swung an eager edge sword for the first time I got goosebumps. Later that night I was running DSC with my group and between vault or whatever the opening encounter is called and Atraks I put it on and accidentally hit one of my friends, instantly killing him. I started yelling about how amazing this was and I was in love. I learned how to shatter and wellskate spent hours practicing... then just made macros for them on my mouse. I ran 300+ dares over the following 3 weeks to get other half with eager edge and to learn the loot pool as no one had it posted yet so I was making loot pools on reddit. Anyways hopefully one day bungie will just let it go back to how it was.
I love using the lament version of the ground-skate on stasis hunter! You sacrifice the speed of eager edge for a more flexible but slower skate, and a stronger sword that offers more damage and healing for PvE activities!
I understand how you do this but could you do a demonstration for controller players. Like should you change keybinds on controller to make it easier. Sadly i don't have a scuff controller.
You should definitely change binds to what’s easiest for you if possible. I know someone who mapped their paddles to one part of the skate each. That way they just have to press them all around the same time and it works!
I mapped super to up on d-pad which makes well skating much easier and for shatter dive i have it activate on press instead of hold so its much more consistent.
For controller I mapped my super to my right thumbstick and my weapon selection to d pad plus bumper jumper. So to skate I’d hit down on the d pad, right trigger, left bumper, right thumbstick. The reason is that I don’t need to move my fingers at all, and it also allows for izi swapping using the d pad for boss DPS
Pro tip for anyone trying to well skate consistently with no macros if your super key is C you can turn the keycap upside down that way when you press jump if you angle your thumb correctly youll always get the perfect timing, this trick came from supergliding in apex legends but it applies well here lmao
I am a console player.I would love to see this video on regular controllers... Got to the park where you did a swap to a different subclass to use blink and realized that will probably never work for console.. due to the load times.. I'm a mid level casual player and really want to push myself "SOMETIMES " lol
Could you show what's your build with heat rises and icarus dash to well skate with armor mods too? Same with hunter, I don't know any build that goes with stompees pls ❤
How is your super coming back immediately after you placed your well of radiance in eternity? Can't see any options in private match settings to do this and it takes forever to come back if you don't get the timing right
Where’s a good place to practice well skating as if I mess this up I’ll lose my well so it’ll take ages under normal conditions. Any good places to practice
Its good video but again, skating is pratically rng for me, first at all, i have input lag (i still have my game in hdd, my ssd is full) if u 1 milisecond late, u fail do the jump, 2nd, lag can also delay you to do all the thing, idk about this but it happened sometimes, 3rd and last, not everyone have superhuman speed like that, i know you guys gonna say, u can do it bla bla bla, but some people cant Easiest thing to do, buy new gaming mouse that have macro program, use macro and its more simple, again it still inconsitent for me Still good video tho but i appreciate it
A HDD shouldn't cause input lag, pretty sure it just effects loadtimes, even still I doubt it would ever cause enough input lag to prevent you from being able to skate. In game lag can or FPS drops can definitely cause issues but that is like 1/100 times your skating
The reason the camera is canted this way for many content creators is to make a clear separation from playing the game and talking to the audience. It makes a more personal feeling connection for the viewer because you get a sense of the creator diverting their attention to give it all to you. The more you know 🫡
So hey I just came back to the game after a long break and I can't seem to shatterskate anymore, whereas it was very easy to nail everytime before, did they change anything ?
is fake skating possible on console? there’s no reliable way for me to swap back to heavy instantly after swapping off because i swap to sword with double press and it has a weird delay
I think you would have to add additional mapping to weapon swapping to make it easier. For example, left and bottom d pad could be (any weapon) and your sword. This should let you swap with the proper timing but I have not done it myself to confirm
Hey, just as a "UA-cam metagame" comment: a clanmate of mine saw the video thumbnail (which I shared with our discord) and was like "yeah I guess those five things are useful, though the sparrow stuff is pretty situational." In other words, he thought the list in the thumbnail was the whole contents of the video, but there's quite a bit more here, including some useful super basic stuff like the Burst Glide/Icarus Dash interaction. I wonder if you're losing clicks because people are interpreting the thumbnail that way. Could be worth messing with if you're the sort that's interested in such things. Anyway, good stuff.
Oh, I'd also throw in Ensnaring Slam skating, which is just well/shatterskating but with Ensnaring Slam; the level geometry requirements are a little different but the results are comparable.
There's a little known movement tech for warlock that's useful to cross longer stretches of land. There are 2 variants and they're both essentially just bunny hopping with some extra steps. One requires you to be on strafe glide and have heat rises active. Strafe glide has less deceleration than burst glide while using heat rises for whatever reason. Inputs are [ Sprint > Jump > Glide > Dash > Sprint > Jump > Glide > Dash > Sprint ] followed by a [ Jump > Glide > Cancel Glide ] loop until dash is off cool down. Minimize time on ground to avoid deceleration. Dashing interrupts the sprint toggle bind so always sprint after dashing. This tech really shines if you use eager edge for some initial momentum. The other method consumes your super and requires daybreak and strafe glide. While daybreak is active you can either just sprint and then [ Jump > Glide > Cancel Glide ] repeatedly or you can [ Jump > Glide > Dash > Cancel Glide ] the latter of which is more potent but is punishing if you miss the cancel glide timing. Some other stuff that is useful and easy to learn is eager edge with strafe lift on titan, slide cancelling (which works on solar-, stasis- and strand lock as far as I know) and Navigator swapping with grapple to breach the vertical barrier in places you can't use a sparrow. If we want to nitpick there's also a lot of weird tech that is useful in the right context, like how lower mobility on titan lets you go faster when you're spamming lift (weapons like Acrius lets you go below T0 mobility), stair/ramp launching on warlock is beyond potent in crucible and even though it's basic, everyone isn't aware that you can quickly elevate/launch yourself by throwing a glacier grenade at your feet. By the way, this is a very bold title to be flaunting for an incomplete video and the description makes you come across as pompous and arrogant. The fact that you then include some niche tech that has little to no use only amplifies this.
I'd like to see any of you consistently skate if you're not in the US or EU, because of ping difference for most countries outside the US this isn't consistently possible.
so sad bubble skating didn't make the cut sure it's likely on par with slipstreaming, with a hint of chance over skill, and you can't use it often because it uses your super on fails unlike well. However it does feel much faster so you can terrorize people in your raid team by bubble skating all of them off the cliff in Atheon for any reason. Unfortunately this is the only way to have an actual fast skate on titan.
The only movement tech I left off this list which I mentioned towards the end of the video is GROUND SKATING. I don't think it is currently super useful for many areas of the game, nor is it the most consistent to do.
Others mentioned SNAP SKATING. For PvE snap skating is borderline useless. For PvP it might be better, but this video is geared towards PvE.
Snap canceling is extremely useful for annoying your fireteam while waiting to rally!
snap skating is extremely potent in pvp so definitely not irrelavant.
snap skating is really good because it works on stasis and strand if u wanted an icarus dash like ability. combine it with a bunny hop and a scroll wheel.
While it can only be used sparingly, I feel like ground slam thundercrash speed deserves a mention. Also bubble skating but that is far less viable than the others.
Hunter ships transition is one of my favourites, something so satisfying about landing perfectly in the middle island after hitting 2 well-timed blinks.
But then you end up closing the door for us warlocks 🥲
@@DdoomsxyYhunters can still skate to the ledge, Exact same path as warlocks, titans can also do it even without bubble skate (obviously)
Thanks for sharing!
For titan flying the new nadir focus sword origins trait gives you some extra distance per swing, and you can keep titan flying with no ammo.
For anyone that’s doing mountaintop jumping you want to be as close to the initial explosion as possible to get the most out of the boost. So lower mobility and hopping is the best way to gain height
Out of the respect for your hard work and diligence that I have seen in your video that I do not see in most, I will do as you ask and leave a comment.
Well skating is something that I learned last week as a returning day one player.
Some of your other methods I heard them called by a different name that does make more sense.
The sparrow corkscrew string, is what I'm calling it because it makes me think of quantum physics and coding. That is new to me.
btw, vortex frame eager edge swords are actually better for well skating then the crafted sword, the velocity you get off vortex frames is so much faster and is just as easy to use
@@Colm1800 I second this. The slammer has made well skating so much more consistent and faster
3:25 "sword my swing"
I ran to the comments to check if I was the only one XD I had to rewind to make sure I didn't have a stroke LOOOOOL
Hahaha I came to the comments to comment exactly this
Me failing reverse slipstream will be forever immortalized in this video💀💀
Edit: I got it
Red panda :3
Chocolate milk is better garrett
One thing I'll never bother to learn just cause i personally don't have the patience to is any of the sparrow flying but i still love the guide
For the lumina grapple, if you simply hold up on a stick on controller you can hit it basically every time so long as you are quick enough with the grapple.
For some reason when you are aimint straight up it will kick down so holding up negates that. That said I usually just use navigator because its easier for hitting on other spots as well.
I REALLY hope bungie buffs eager edge back to how it was when it came out. I would also love to see glaive skating come back as that was super fun but it was definitely broken in PvP.
I will always remember that joy of the first time I used a sword with eager edge. Day 1 of the 30th anniversary. The first weapon I got from dares was Half Truths with Thresh and eager edge. I looked at the perk and didn't think anything of it. A few hours later I was on the EDZ and put the sword on and WOOOSH. I think I actually yelled "Oh my god sword skating is back" I unfortunately missed worldline skating and always wanted to do it. So when I swung an eager edge sword for the first time I got goosebumps. Later that night I was running DSC with my group and between vault or whatever the opening encounter is called and Atraks I put it on and accidentally hit one of my friends, instantly killing him. I started yelling about how amazing this was and I was in love. I learned how to shatter and wellskate spent hours practicing... then just made macros for them on my mouse. I ran 300+ dares over the following 3 weeks to get other half with eager edge and to learn the loot pool as no one had it posted yet so I was making loot pools on reddit. Anyways hopefully one day bungie will just let it go back to how it was.
really good video, semi rotation skates should be here imo tho imo, easy to learn/can be really useful in speedruns/just getting around.
I love using the lament version of the ground-skate on stasis hunter! You sacrifice the speed of eager edge for a more flexible but slower skate, and a stronger sword that offers more damage and healing for PvE activities!
I understand how you do this but could you do a demonstration for controller players. Like should you change keybinds on controller to make it easier. Sadly i don't have a scuff controller.
Remap your super to d-pad
@@basconrad719 interesting idea
You should definitely change binds to what’s easiest for you if possible. I know someone who mapped their paddles to one part of the skate each. That way they just have to press them all around the same time and it works!
I mapped super to up on d-pad which makes well skating much easier and for shatter dive i have it activate on press instead of hold so its much more consistent.
For controller I mapped my super to my right thumbstick and my weapon selection to d pad plus bumper jumper. So to skate I’d hit down on the d pad, right trigger, left bumper, right thumbstick. The reason is that I don’t need to move my fingers at all, and it also allows for izi swapping using the d pad for boss DPS
Pro tip for anyone trying to well skate consistently with no macros if your super key is C you can turn the keycap upside down that way when you press jump if you angle your thumb correctly youll always get the perfect timing, this trick came from supergliding in apex legends but it applies well here lmao
Learned to well skate with this video 👍👍
Wher is bubble Skating or other skates on Titan?
Always love these kinds of vids showing off all of the cool tech in d2, great work G
I am a console player.I would love to see this video on regular controllers... Got to the park where you did a swap to a different subclass to use blink and realized that will probably never work for console.. due to the load times.. I'm a mid level casual player and really want to push myself "SOMETIMES " lol
No snap hopping or snap skating?
It aint that useful
@@spiregamer5076 bruh snap hopping is god tier for pvp
I'm with OP on this one. Throw in cryoclasm cancel on Behemoth if we're talking about minor PVP-oriented movement tech, too.
When adding the icarus dashes to the heat rise skate do you just activate jump after?
Could you show what's your build with heat rises and icarus dash to well skate with armor mods too? Same with hunter, I don't know any build that goes with stompees pls ❤
My favorite move was 3 weeks ago when I did LeftLeave Game>Uninstall Game
Good looking out
How is your super coming back immediately after you placed your well of radiance in eternity?
Can't see any options in private match settings to do this and it takes forever to come back if you don't get the timing right
play mayhem
Forgot the warlock swirl though it's for pvp only.
Where’s a good place to practice well skating as if I mess this up I’ll lose my well so it’ll take ages under normal conditions. Any good places to practice
what software do you use for the keyboard overlay?
Not sure if it's the one he's using, but NohBoard OBS is a great overlay
Its good video but again, skating is pratically rng for me, first at all, i have input lag (i still have my game in hdd, my ssd is full) if u 1 milisecond late, u fail do the jump, 2nd, lag can also delay you to do all the thing, idk about this but it happened sometimes, 3rd and last, not everyone have superhuman speed like that, i know you guys gonna say, u can do it bla bla bla, but some people cant
Easiest thing to do, buy new gaming mouse that have macro program, use macro and its more simple, again it still inconsitent for me
Still good video tho but i appreciate it
A HDD shouldn't cause input lag, pretty sure it just effects loadtimes, even still I doubt it would ever cause enough input lag to prevent you from being able to skate.
In game lag can or FPS drops can definitely cause issues but that is like 1/100 times your skating
What about hunter strand skating
just make the camera front facing so you dont have to keep looking at the side
The reason the camera is canted this way for many content creators is to make a clear separation from playing the game and talking to the audience. It makes a more personal feeling connection for the viewer because you get a sense of the creator diverting their attention to give it all to you.
The more you know 🫡
I WILL LEARN
So hey I just came back to the game after a long break and I can't seem to shatterskate anymore, whereas it was very easy to nail everytime before, did they change anything ?
Turn off full auto melee if you have that on. Otherwise if it doesn't work it is probably just messing up the inputs.
Can you hunter dive skate with strand dive? Maybe it's a console thing, but I can't do it at all lol
Go in settings and make change your hunter dive keybind to press once instead of double press
YASSSSS!👏👏
Babe wake up he found titan skating
Macros are allowed, correct? (I'm talking G HUB or Tiny Task, not scripting)
Yes, simple macros to do something like a wellskate are not bannable (although some people think it’s cheating for stuff like speedruns)
@@abh._.It is actually against the rules in official src speedruns
@@avo1dmee I don’t speedeun at all but I knew there was some issue with macros for that community so thanks for clearing that up
@@abh._. I don't speedrun, so it looks like I'm fine.
It's a bit of a gray area, but as far as I'm aware Bungie's never banned anyone for simple macros like these, or stuff like macroing Wish Wall.
Your discord link doesn’t work?
Jesus G... just the very beginning with the slipstream into the shatterskate off of the sparrow... some wacky shit in this video. Haha 😅
Yeah slipskating is kinda nutty. But once you have slips down, it is honestly pretty easy to learn!
is fake skating possible on console? there’s no reliable way for me to swap back to heavy instantly after swapping off because i swap to sword with double press and it has a weird delay
I think you would have to add additional mapping to weapon swapping to make it easier. For example, left and bottom d pad could be (any weapon) and your sword. This should let you swap with the proper timing but I have not done it myself to confirm
I faced you in trials a few weeks ago when it was Altars. So far I have beaten you, GJ, & tied with Zavalr. The 1st 3 streamers I have ever played :D
Strand skate?
Rip no bubble skate or snap skate or hill skate 😢
Tho fully understand its not as useful as the rest :)
What about just regular titan skating
Forgot snap skating
Hey, just as a "UA-cam metagame" comment: a clanmate of mine saw the video thumbnail (which I shared with our discord) and was like "yeah I guess those five things are useful, though the sparrow stuff is pretty situational." In other words, he thought the list in the thumbnail was the whole contents of the video, but there's quite a bit more here, including some useful super basic stuff like the Burst Glide/Icarus Dash interaction. I wonder if you're losing clicks because people are interpreting the thumbnail that way. Could be worth messing with if you're the sort that's interested in such things.
Anyway, good stuff.
Oh, I'd also throw in Ensnaring Slam skating, which is just well/shatterskating but with Ensnaring Slam; the level geometry requirements are a little different but the results are comparable.
No snapdash?
Assigning a single button that isn’t wasd to sparrow strafing makes flying way easier imo.
How many of these are possible on console?
If you’re on old gen some of these things might be less consistent because of frame rates but all of these are possible
Slip skating is peak destiny
@gmeiners go to 3:24 and listen closely
*cries in titan 😭
bro using my name at 14:17 for clout
💀💀💀
There's a little known movement tech for warlock that's useful to cross longer stretches of land.
There are 2 variants and they're both essentially just bunny hopping with some extra steps.
One requires you to be on strafe glide and have heat rises active. Strafe glide has less deceleration than burst glide while using heat rises for whatever reason.
Inputs are [ Sprint > Jump > Glide > Dash > Sprint > Jump > Glide > Dash > Sprint ] followed by a [ Jump > Glide > Cancel Glide ] loop until dash is off cool down.
Minimize time on ground to avoid deceleration. Dashing interrupts the sprint toggle bind so always sprint after dashing.
This tech really shines if you use eager edge for some initial momentum.
The other method consumes your super and requires daybreak and strafe glide.
While daybreak is active you can either just sprint and then [ Jump > Glide > Cancel Glide ] repeatedly or you can [ Jump > Glide > Dash > Cancel Glide ] the latter of which is more potent but is punishing if you miss the cancel glide timing.
Some other stuff that is useful and easy to learn is eager edge with strafe lift on titan, slide cancelling (which works on solar-, stasis- and strand lock as far as I know) and Navigator swapping with grapple to breach the vertical barrier in places you can't use a sparrow.
If we want to nitpick there's also a lot of weird tech that is useful in the right context, like how lower mobility on titan lets you go faster when you're spamming lift (weapons like Acrius lets you go below T0 mobility), stair/ramp launching on warlock is beyond potent in crucible and even though it's basic, everyone isn't aware that you can quickly elevate/launch yourself by throwing a glacier grenade at your feet.
By the way, this is a very bold title to be flaunting for an incomplete video and the description makes you come across as pompous and arrogant.
The fact that you then include some niche tech that has little to no use only amplifies this.
make a video yourself then
I'd like to see any of you consistently skate if you're not in the US or EU, because of ping difference for most countries outside the US this isn't consistently possible.
Oof never considered that... not sure where you're at but ppl definitely skate consistently in Asia and OCE
Isn't the ping based on the host?
16:00
so sad bubble skating didn't make the cut
sure it's likely on par with slipstreaming, with a hint of chance over skill, and you can't use it often because it uses your super on fails unlike well. However it does feel much faster so you can terrorize people in your raid team by bubble skating all of them off the cliff in Atheon for any reason. Unfortunately this is the only way to have an actual fast skate on titan.
for titans I thought the lion rampart skate got patched and you can't jump after a certain amount of times am I wrong?
Yes you are
@@avo1dmee I just must not know how to do it then
@@brianj9634 if you loose height over time or run out of jump after a while that means your timing is off
@@avo1dmee thanks appreciate that
Yippee!!
its no working im try
What most of the streamers are leaving out is that you need a rocketship of a pc to do this.
nah you just need a keyboard with macros and its easy. i got a rocketship of a pc anyways lul
You can do this all on controller
Only thing u technically didnt cover was the very basic eager skate any class can do without super or something like shatterdive.
I Love u
Rip snap canceling, you aren't good enough
I'm saying it should at least be mentioned in the basic sections, it's a good and fun extra boost of speed.
@mozzie4933 the" you" in my comment was me referring to snap canceling. Personifying the tech. Ot was not directed to meiners
@@thatonedude3644 ohhh..sorry!
Gg
Yeh console players have been forgotten.
How do all you sweatys keep changing sub classes and not get all cool downs reset to zero ?
"Ic dash"....... "ic dash"...... yeah I'm done with this video
wut
Step 1 have keyboard
Step 2 have mouse
Unfortunately I'm a console player
Most of these are pretty useless tbh
Bungie said they were going to ban people who do speed runs. FYI
They can’t lmao, we aren’t breaking any rules.
when I make things up on the internet 😳