MK6 GTI Stock to Stage 2 Malone/Tunezilla
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- Опубліковано 10 лис 2022
- Our highest horsepower Stage 2 MK6 GTI we've dynoed yet. We do all the supporting mods and flash this one with Malone Stage 2/ Tunezilla and it doesn't disappoint.
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Race car stuff,dyno stuff , I love everything you guys do. You make it great to watch whatever it is . Keep on doing what you’re doing. 🏁🇬🇧
Appreciate it
Yes! Love the before and after mod dyno's!
Thanks.
Amazing job by the boys at CO Motorsports. it’s a whole new car.
We love race car and dyno comparisons all informative and entertaining. Always the right balance!
Thanks
Thanks for the great dyno comparison content, always a highlight of my day to see a new video. My MK6 Jetta TDI is Malone Stage 3 (CR170 Turbo Swap) and Malone DSG tune and its been rock solid for the last 82K Miles. Also its refreshing that you guys aren't set on one tuner brand so we really get a view of many options in these videos.
I'm running stage 2 Malone with the CR170 on my TDI and it runs really well. The DMF shutter will be dealt with soon at 160k miles and a Wavetrac LSD installed before I go stage 3. I will say the DSG tune does make it unsure of what gear to use cruising at 45mph but otherwise it shifts very well.
I’ve enjoyed all your videos. Being an mk4 owner I especially enjoy those ones. But it’s nice to see it all.
Appreciate it, thanks for following along.
As a new mk5gti owner i love all your dyno, engine and race stuff...Subscribed.
Thanks for following along
Awesome result! I noticed a slight increase in power with my MK5 with those APR coils, which was surprising to me.
Race car stuff is my favorite, probably a little partial because I used to do lots of track car prep/ fab work, but not so much anymore, so I have to live vicariously through you guys LOL! 😁 I do enjoy these comparison videos too though cuz it's fun to guess what it'll make when it gets put on the rollers. Top notch content either way fellas! 👍👍
Appreciate the feedback
I love anything you upload, keep it coming. 👍
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My EOS ea888.1 made 201bhp and 218lb ft stock. Then with full 3" APR intake, 3" downpipe + catback, upgraded intercooler, APR coils, NGK cold plugs, Nuespeed lightweight crank pulley, GFB diverter valve made 225bhp and 245lb ft stock software. Stage 2+ mapped 288bhp and 330lb ft on 99 ron 😮 Your video is really good btw, i enjoyed watching it 😀
Love what you guys do! And that is very healthy stage 2 like to see more videos like this race car stuff is good to👌🍺
i like watching the dyno comparisons
I'm glad, that's why we do them. 🙂
You guys are the best! I just ordered some merch. I wish you could tune my MK7, but you are kinda far from Oregon. Keep up the great videos.
Appreciate the comments. Your gear was shipped out, thanks for the support.
Already excited and only 45 seconds in! Seriously though, you guys really helped get me back into my vw's and hot hatches in general, so thank you!!
**Btw, im still scouring the internet within a half day's drive for either a speed 3 or a gti-- cant wait to find the right deal, i am JONSING to start building it up and enjoying it!!
**amazing the 70+HP improvement with the catted DP, and an exhaust that really just has a nice tone and didnt sound rediculous!!
Super impressive, im shocked!
That intake has got to flow really well, i gotta look at the mods again but im impressed, esp since the mk6 is the gti's ive mainly been looking at!
@@BabyCharlotteschannel thanks for following along.
Racecar stuff is awesome. also enjoy the bolt-on dyno before and after stuff.
Thanks
man loving all this content on the mk5/6 platform, especially the ea888 gen 1. I bought my GTI brand new from the dealer 14 years ago and just recently broke 100k! Been running APR stage 2 with all supporting mods for pretty much the whole time. such a Fun little whipper snapper still! But after finding this channel Im about to let loose and take it to the max lol! I want AWD now, I want big Turbo! damn it guys, great channel!
Best of luck with your project
Completely agree. I have a Mk6 gti that I’ve started to build on my channel. I want to eventually go k04 hybrid. Started my build here on UA-cam. How are you liking stage 2?
it's funny but I've had the car with stage 2 for over a decade now and really don't know how it felt stock lol. its been great to be honest. car is always ready to rip if you put your foot down and sometimes when I feel like getting spicy I put that thing in Sport mode and It's a whole new level of excitment..lol @@livefasttoday
@@urbandadtv that sounds awesome. Congrats for having the vehicle so long. Stage 2 coming soon for me.
Wavetrac first, KO4X and bolt ons. Probably won't miss the Haldex.
( oops, do some Super pro or White line control arms and no lift bushings.)
Sheesh, that’s a very healthy IHI car especially on 91 octane!
Yep
I told you mk6 wasnt going to let you down haha impressive power. !!!!
**Love the back to the future reference-- guess im showing my age too brother!! 88mph marty, thats what ya have to hit!!
Quite impressive indeed!
Been running GLI MK6 '12 with only cts downpipe, cts intake, Unitronic stage 2 from 70,000km to now 285,000km and it's always been fun. That torque is addicting.
What to expect down the line; breaks, end-links, coil-packs, plugs, downpipe flex part torn.
Motor mounts, the stock ones have certainly burst (oil filled) by now.
Impressive!
The factory ecu is doing it's corrections as well with the tune! And it's doing it well!
Thanks
Dyno Stuff 👍🏾
I’m really thinking about doing my Ed35 was going to leave stock cause I’m nearly 50yo but these videos make me think 🤔
This might be a dumb question but for slip fit downpipes like CTS, do you use a sealant to eliminate any leaks? No matter how much I tightened the clamps or repositioned them on my CTS downpipe, I could never seem to fully eliminate a slight exhaust leak. 4:20
Would be neat to see a dyno comparison before and after intake port cleaning on a CCTA
Yes got my cbfa carbon cleaned and I diffenitly felt a difference with quicker low end power and throttle response
If the drag car is ready for World Cup next year: I’m joining. We vlogging daily while there.
My mk6 with apr cated 3 inch downpipe and apr 91 tune did 250.8hp 303.9lb -ft in Calgary. 1,000m above sea level.
Yeah we've seen that power before, this one just happens to pack a bit more of a punch.
Great numbers. Did you guys happens to test the ethanol content in the 91 in the HRM yet? I was seeing 8-10% down in the Annapolis Valley when I was home in September. The result kind of hints that theres a hint of corn in the gas for sure.
Yes only Esso so far from my testing
@@COMotorsports It was the Esso for me as well, I hope its dynoing well!
Exactly the same gti I own :D
Me 2
Yay mk6 !!!!
Don’t forget the conversion stuff but is it Malone tune making the biggest difference vs other companies?
Let’s start with once again great content. 👍🏽 Guys PLEASE get rid of those milk crates, you’re freakin me out. 😅
They're safer to stand on.
That's a great video to watch!! Wondering how much bhp can the stock mk6 Gti injectors can safely handle...?
400whp on race fuel, about 350ish on pump.
Hello, what is this beeping sound that can be heard during the 2nd test??
(when the RPM picks up)
Hey great video. My son has a mk6 with ie stage 3 k04. He wants to make it faster as my other son has a mk7 with a big Garrett turbo. Would different tuning help or is a bigger turbo the way to go? Keep the videos coming
Needs bigger turbo
I personally prefer the working on cars and tuning stuff over the race car stuff 😁
Thanks for the feedback
Great stuff, awesome contents!, Liked and Subbed! Do you guys think IE flashes are worth it or can produce similar performance? Thanks
Similar yes, maybe not quite as high as this. Out of all the MK6 stock turbo's we've dyno'd on 91oct this was the highest from all providers, even from this provider. This one's just working great.
@@COMotorsports Awesome, thank you.
check the balance shaft before it's too late, that sound on WOT is caused by balance shaft oil passageways becoming blocked
Please tell us what turbos you recommended your client!!
Great video!! I have a daily 2010 mk6 gti and thinking about going straight to stage 2. What would be a rough est of cost for adding those parts in similar and going from stock to stage 2?
All depends on brand of hardware, brand of software, and your labor rates in your area.
keep the MK6 GTI’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! only channel that really cares about us😢
We car about all VW/Audis 😉
I have a MK6 and I hate the beep when the door is open with the keys in the ignition xD
what options on turbo upgrade did you give him instead of K04? one of my buddies is planning on doing K04 in his mk6 with APR software next spring, would be great to give him an alternate option to look into, or even a video if your customer decides to upgrade by then
Tell him to email us.
That bad boy needs a new diverter valve. That things Squeaaaalin. Would probably make even more power without a leaking diverter valve
My car also makes this sound replace with gfb dv plus diverter valve still does the same sound as these 2.0tsi seem to mske once you do turbo muffler delete and tube with intake
It's those APR coils bro.. 😜
They work great.
Are you guys ok with the intakes that mount the MAF directly on the intake pipe? A lot of what I have read on the forums says to avoid those and get the 2 piece intakes that keep the original MAF sensor assembly.
Also, any particular reason why you recommend a different turbo over the K04? It seems like all other options require custom tuning and possibly fueling mods. At that point it almost makes sense to sell the MK6 for a 7. With that said, I have a k04 MK6 GTI (IE Tuned) and it is awesome, but with another 30-50HP it would put it much closer to the modern "big dogs", lol.
As long as the maf piping size is correct then it's completely fine. Issue is companies have messed that up which will cause problems.
K04 is a decent option on these cars yes, but the boss kits are as well.
I put a GT2871r eliminator kit on my a4 b5 1.8t without the recommended supporting mods and it still runs really well. I plan on putting the mods on and tuning in the near future but it runs fine. You can only go so far with the K04.
What other option bedsides K04?
Super interested to know.
Love my CC w/ K04 but definitely interested in knowing about other options that's a straight swap, street usable, and daily driver reliable...
Definitely convince the guy so we can see 😁😁
I’m in the same boat I have a CC getting a catted downpipe next week and going stg2 tune but want to know about ko4 or anything else
Might be somewhere in the 280’s once that dv is replaced ❤
Doesn't need to be replaced
I'm willing to bet the intercooler is helping mostly with the extra power. Most stage 2 I see is just the intake and downpipe
Yes of course.
Dave, what are the alternatives to the K04 upgrade and what is the difference in terms of power gains.
Also, what is the limit for the stock internals on these 2 litre engines
500 or 600 HP kits. Stock engine is good for around 400whp. Maybe more but we haven't pushed any to know the real answer to that.
Would be kool if you guys can make a video about the different tuning software for vag cars not the companies but the actual maps editing tools
For hobby/personal use there basically isn't any...aside from Eurodyne Maestro.
@@COMotorsports you are correct but also hp tuners has been supporting vw and Audis for the last couple of years would be kool to see what it can do
@@jordancespedes15 not really an option as it's not the same for the VW platform unfortunately. For VW you require a pro tuner license which no end user is going to purchase. We're a shop and classified as a pro tuner with HP Tuner and we don't pay for the license as it's just too much for the amount of customers that want it.
Hey what are the other option turbos to go with if you don’t mind me asking?? Thanks
Email us
Hello guys, my question is are you doing your own software or you just upload some brand software what the customer pick and you just make some adjustments on it depends what is the hardware?
Every application is different, most cases for these reflash cars is from companies we supply for.
What’s the max HP on stock block and whatnot? I’ve always stayed away from MK6’s because people always say they’re not the best.
Stock Engines good for around 400whp. However fueling is the real problem with them, which is why you haven't seen many make big power. They exist but that's the big hurtle.
What sort of boost do you usually see with ko3 stage 2 tunes on mk5 mk6 gits
I'm on 23 PSI. That's where I see most "stage 2" tunes at as it's the limit of the stock boost pressure sensor
So what can i be looking for other them a KO4 to make more power what other turbo can I check out
Much like our recent video. You can put whatever turbo you want on it. All comes down to power goals.
I like the comparisons a lot. I’d like to see a mkv fsi with the same exact comparison as this.
Don’t know what they are but they look like Sline badges on the wings kinda looks pox.
Would stratified 5th injector kit help a stage 2 mk6 gti?
Since stock fuelling exceeds the capabilities of the stock turbo... No.
I'm a noob to all of this, but I was just wondering how much would all of the stuff you done to the car typically cost?
All comes down to brand of product, state of vehicle and labor rates in your area.
Why does it make that weird noise from the intake when you start flooring it, my mk6 does it also
It's generally the beginning of compressor surge on small turbos.
I have a question. I really need your opinion here. Stage one APR or stage one unitronic which is better in your opinion. Golf GTI Mk7.5
Whatever is easier for you. We haven't had much luck with Uni here primarily due to our poor fuel quality.
@@COMotorsports thank you APR It is then
Picking up 90hp at only 4k rpm is shocking. No need for a K04 just yet. :)
How many miles on that engine, btw?
It was low like 105k KMs.
103 she’s home but in rest mode waiting for clutch to break in
Thought it’s Billy Corgan
Is that an Ed35? If so, doesn't it have a K04 already?
No.
Interesting that standard the car is making the same power at the wheels as VW claim at the crank.
That's not uncommon.
Do you think 93 octane would add a little bit more power?
With a 93oct file yes.
whats that sound @6:41 :)? i have the same sound when i changed rev d diverter valve
DV/Turbo, turbo's on surge line.
I have the exact same sound but it’s very subtle . Mine’s mk6 gti apr stage 1 rev J diverter valve. Everything is stock besides the tune. Why is this sound so loud in your customer’s car? Is it because of the air intake?
So What as good as K04 on budget that you are steering him toward ??? And who has the best K04 tune ??? Inquiring minds
HP and budget don't really go together.
He’s trying to beat my 355 mk7 golf R lol
Hi...is that power on wheels or engine?
Always wheel HP on our channel
What are your suggestions over a ko4?
You can email us.
this should be a fun to drive GTI
what is that sueal at the beginning of the pull though?
Not 100 percent but after I installed my intake my car has this same noise when you first get into it. Sooo possibly the intakes but mine is the apr style
I've noticed that style filter has a tendency to whistle a little, especially if it's an open filter like that. I had that even on an old NA Honda I used to have.
GFBDV is suppose to fix that sound if you have a intake
it’s the diverter valve, mine does the same but only when i’m a little higher in the RPM’s, usually around 4k-5k
What was the total bill for parts, labour out the door?
All comes down to specific brand of parts used, labor rates in your area, state of vehicle.
stage 1. 250 HP and 380 NM
what exhaust is he running? sounded vtecy
Stock
U guys sell access ports there?
Yes
Hey guys I love your videos I was wondering if you guys tune tdi. Just turned 16 and I bought a mk4 jetta tdi 5 speed manual from watching your videos. Even though I watched your videos and looks guys mostly tune gti and gli the most. I haven’t seen a tdi vw on the channel yet which I thought would be cool. I modded my car over the summer with various mods and I was wondering how much would it cost to tune my tdi if you guys tune tdi ? An if you guys wanted you can use it as a UA-cam video or something.
If you could Please respond if you see this it would mean a lot even if you said no or even seen this comment. Thank you keep up the good work. I plan on buying murch.
We tune TDIs all the time. I think there's one or two TDI on the channel. We're primarily about making HP and building track cars on this channel, and 99% of TDI clients typically are after savings and mileage. In short yes we can tune your TDI.
Hey @@COMotorsports thanks for responding some UA-cam channels I comment don’t respond at all. Cool yes I remember you guys did one tdi a mk6. With a turbo upgrade. I’m trying to look for the most hp out of my tdi BEW Sadly not the Alh with stock internals. But what I have modded and saved up for my car this summer now becoming winter is a vnt17 turbo rather than the kp39 a cold air intake 3 bar map sensor pd150 intake with race pipe and a 3inch turbo back exhaust straight pipe and egt and boost gauge and a brand new timing belt and the whole works for that my car was tuned down to 90 Hp new and I want to see what I can get out of it. I’m a huge vw tdi guy my dad currently has a 03 Volkswagen Jetta wagon tdi that pushing 230hp at wheels not at crank he running an 18/56 turbo I think and it’s and Alh and he trying to get his tune right now as well.
@@houstonhuntress1864 best of luck with your project. It's a lot of money to get very little power out of them.
@@COMotorsports do you think it’s worth it to get a gti or a gli mk4 rather than a tdi?
@@houstonhuntress1864 You're asking the wrong guy honestly. I'm bias, cause I would say GTI everytime.
Personally, I like the dyno stuff. All of it is cool, but the dyno stuff is good for breaking the hearts of "I have a buddy with..." people claiming outlandish shit.
Yeah we're hoping to bring some reality to what cars make with their mods.
@@COMotorsports I love it. Keep up the good work.
So the first measure was stock ecu?
Looks like oem 200bhp
This is typical... under rated from factory.
@@COMotorsports well its interesting to see that
How much did all this cost?
All comes down to brand of parts, software and labor rate in your area.
Aren’t we supposed to break in a clutch? I see that you guys just do full pulls right after installing it. Does this mean clutch break-in is a myth?
It is not a myth. 100% needs to be broken in.
@@COMotorsports so you guys broke the clutch in before the dyno session
@@Bossdog306 the dyno doesn't have the same impact as the road.
Very impressive
Question for anyone here. Can you get a 07 gti in the 12.6ish area with stock motor, 93 fuel? Est cost? Just inquiring for a sister of mine. She is choosing between a fiesta st thats 5800 or a 7200 07 gti. Stock for stock gti isnt much faster. But it has huge potential compared to the ST.
Right off bat id guess 5k easy just turbo setup, exhaust, clutch, smic, tune. But are the trans, axles, motor strong enough?
Street car trans is good for 400whp generally. I have customers with more but it comes down to what the cars being used for.
@@COMotorsports thats not bad. The fiesta st seems like a typo at 5800. They all seem to be above 10k. Even most gtis are 10k plus. Saw one 08 for 8k. She has a 02 a4 1.8 awd stick right know. A ko4 will only do about 14 flat. To get another 1.3ish secods faster it would need a gt28, i think. Is high 12s just a turbo upgrade and exhaust, intercooler, fueling away on a 07ish gti? Im thinking easier to get there with tge gti then a 02 a4. My 01 a4 1 8 stroker took a SHIT ton of money to make fast, lol.
If your wondering why 12s. She dailys a 13.5ish car auto. Wanted a better mpg zippy car. If my 01 modded a4 gets 22ish ave. Im sure a gti will get that, even a 12 to 13 second one.
Yes street car daily driver 93 fuel is what the gti would be
@@easycomeeasygo8901 Buy a MK7 GTI/R DSG, it'll run 12's with a tune with ease.
@@COMotorsports if only mony werent a thing, lol. She is bitching at 8 to 12k the 07 to 12s are going for 🤣. I figured you guys have tuned a few of them so I thought you would know off top of your head. If the 07 style is just a turbo away from 12s. She would likely just start with a tune. They are not very fast car stock, high 14s. But the potential is there. She wants a stick, no cheat mode dsg for 12s/13s.
If my girl ever gets rid of her b5 s4, that i maintain, only way to own one, lol. She liked the new golf r.
@@easycomeeasygo8901 I wouldn't buy a MK5, it's the new mk3. Lol
DYNO comparison
K04 asap
I don’t get that my mk6 gti makes about 280hp stage 1 on 98ron 😅
Then you don't get the difference between wheel HP and crank HP.
@@COMotorsportsnah he's right rtech in the UK can 280bhp stage to the wheels... Safely and correctly
@@bmorris5863 Most dyno's in UK display BHP... which is crank HP. This is different then WHP..
Put a ttrs turbo
Doesn't work like that. Lol
I am Not impressed at all.. thos are pretty heavy mods for the most part. AND a Stage TWO tune!.. ND it didn't even crack 300hp
You're not impressed because you don't understand that this is measured at the wheels. Stock turbo is not making 300whp sorry.
Those numbers sound horrible to me, honestly I feel that it should be pushing 350hp+ 300tq+ minimum to the wheels with FBO and a good tune with the proper fueling components.
Never happening
@@COMotorsports I understand that and that’s why it’s difficult to drop so much money into a FWD VW and only make that much power, it’s very difficult. When you can drop the amount it takes to get to 250-300hp/tq in a VW and still get smashed by other stock ish car brands out there in the same league, with the amount I’ve put into my GTI I could have had a big turbo 400hp+ srt4 amongst other cars and in all honesty I’d rather have an srt4 with the amount these VW’s cost with the shit return on performance they give you. I’ve got at least $5k in performance components in my GTI and still get whooped by srt4’s and other cars in its league, it honestly is a huge downer. I’ve had 5 VW’s so far and even the ones I’ve put Water meth and stage this and that and whatever mods I can throw at them and they’re still slow as shit. These cars are just not performance friendly unless you actually rip into them and build them and or throw a big turbo and the supporting mods and I’m not talking ko4 lol I’m talking big turbo, from stock to stage 3+ with cutting labor costs by doing some work yourself your still at about $6k minimum for a properly setup stage 3. So what I’m babbling about is VW’s are a waste of money unless you are into dumping money into something for little return on performance and or like the way they break and are over priced to fix and or like the stanced bagged deal, everyone likes what they like but as I get older and learn about the 45+ cars I’ve owned I know for a fact unless you have money to throw away and dump into euro cars they aren’t worth much other than to drive them daily, hope they don’t break and that’s it. Not saying I wouldn’t mind having a newer RS model Audi but I think they are heavily over priced and not worth the loss. I’ve thrown a lot of money on VW’s and have learned they aren’t worth it. The power isn’t there for me for the money spent.
@@bobsaget3044 buy a 7r.
@@COMotorsports you’re probably right I wasn’t thinking about the R’s lol but that would probably be a better choice for sure for the performance and AWD, the whole FWD thing is just killin it and maybe the AWD will make a difference and the other added goodies the R has!
I'm an outlier I know I don't own a gti, I have a mk7 golf 1.8 5speed with a 600r racingline intake with all the intake goodies ! And only run 93 oct. Would love to see this version tested!
Lots of gen 3 1.8t content on the channel.
highest HP Stage 2 car lol.
my BPY/BWT makes more with zero mods just a tune.
New engines are just worse versions of the 1.8t with a bigger stroke & bore LOL
Nope
@@COMotorsports it makes 268 stock turbo, 320 ft lbs, what more do you want from me
@@JACKOFALLFATES not to the wheels it doesn't
@@COMotorsports you literally dont know do you
@@COMotorsports STAGE HORSEPOWER TORQUE
Stock VW Advertised Numbers 194 HP 213 FT-LBS
Stock BDT Dyno Numbers 190 HP 210 FT-LBS
Stage 1 93 Octane 237 HP 289 FT-LBS
Stage 2 93 Octane 265 HP 311 FT-LBS
For all the Guys still on a ko3 what did you introduce to him? Introduce us too🫶🏾