The Best CR TDI Tuning: Tunezilla/Malone VS. MR Tuning

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  • @Sonofequin0x
    @Sonofequin0x 9 місяців тому +10

    I’ve had my Stage 2 tune through MR for the past year and have loved every second of it. With the addition of the DSG tune it really feels like a whole new car. Customer service from them is superb too.
    Recently did the CP3, egr delete, & 2200 Fuel pressure sensor and the car really hauls now

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  9 місяців тому

      Yeah I didn’t mean to make it sound like the customer service is bad, I just meant there’s only so much 1 person can do through emails along with regular day to day business stuff. It’s amazing how much these wake up with just the tune.

    • @B4LEES
      @B4LEES Місяць тому

      could you maybe do some videos on it? My dad and I have the same car (2011) and I would like to see if its worth upgrading the car (has 603k km)

  • @EnGammalAmazon
    @EnGammalAmazon 9 місяців тому +7

    Nice testing. I used to work as a research assistant when I was working on an advanced degree many years ago. I know how to design and execute a research project. You've done a very good job of doing a relatively simple test. You also did a good job of assessing the variations in the testing and yet stayed quite neutral in your conclusions. Again, nice job and good delivery.

  • @dieseljetta
    @dieseljetta 8 місяців тому +4

    Im so happy I found your channel man, there's not a lot of videos on cjaa, definitely no in depth ones. Love the content!

  • @davzing1
    @davzing1 8 місяців тому +3

    I just did 5+ hours of research and landed on the EOC with MR tuning and also ended up looking at all the same options as you did in the process. Thank you, after finding your video I am confident to order now and will look into a CP3.

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  7 місяців тому +2

      Awesome, I’m hoping to do a video on the cp3 and cp4 disaster prevention kit next week is the plan.

  • @TheDragonDelasangre
    @TheDragonDelasangre 9 місяців тому +1

    Nice comparison. I have been running the MRT 55HP for quite a few months. My car keeps up with a lightly tuned Subaru WRX so I am quite happy with the performance. Fuel mileage didn't really increase massivly, but also right after tuning its been near freezing for 2 months. I have discovered the warmer it is the better my fuel mileage. I was down 25% fuel mileage in freezing temps. Pretty big bummer since I bought the thing as a winter car.

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  9 місяців тому +4

      Yeah I used to only have TDI’s for winter cars, you could tell pretty quickly when they switched to/from winter fuel around here.

  • @andrewjohnjim
    @andrewjohnjim 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video. Looking forward to your video on the disaster prevention kit. I have one from Whitbread. Have not installed it yet. Looking forward to your review on it.

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  9 місяців тому +2

      That’s the same kit I’m eyeing

    • @shagsmcshrivels
      @shagsmcshrivels 9 місяців тому

      I'd be interested in doing the same.

  • @stephenweenink7485
    @stephenweenink7485 9 місяців тому +3

    Is the car you’re testing on deleted? Was on MR Tuning’s website and they don’t really offer an emissions intact tune besides the 25hp one. I’m fairly local to you and have a low mileage stock 2014 Sportwagen DSG if you need another test mule. Enjoy your videos and you nerding out on this diesel tuning, it’s super interesting to me.

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  9 місяців тому +2

      Yes it’s deleted, it had a cracked dpf when I did the turbo so figured it was time. I enjoy doing these this vs that videos, hoping to do some more this summer, I’ll have to keep that in mind

  • @Frank_Nitti
    @Frank_Nitti 4 місяці тому +2

    @JoshsJettas I understand that EGR delete will reduce the amount of dry soot entering the intake system. The dry soot itself isn't an issue, except that it combines with the PCV/CCV vapours in the intake and gunks up.
    My car's (Canadian 2013 Golf Wagon TDI w/DSG) extended emissions warranty just expired and I'm planning to delete DPF and EGR. I'm considering getting an AOS.
    As soon as my warranty expired, I got codes P2002 and P0401. What luck!
    Question: Is the AOS worth it after the EGR delete?

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  3 місяці тому

      I don’t think it’s worth it really, even non deleted with the split egr systems these new ones stay clean for quite awhile.

  • @Marksworld...1
    @Marksworld...1 7 місяців тому +1

    Ive ran a few brands and landed with tunezilla (malone) for our 3..happy for sure customer service is good and they do a nice tune thats for sure....for your cjaa i ended up hunting down a cr170 turbo off uk ebay super cheap shipped to ontario. Its a great way to add way more mid and top pull for super cheap. I kind of miss my cjaa but the touaregs are pretty quick too...looking to put a bigger turbo on my cnrb here this summer

  • @shagsmcshrivels
    @shagsmcshrivels 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks I just got my cjaa running so appreciate this video a lot. You never said which you'd pick if you could just get one ;)

    • @everydaycommuter
      @everydaycommuter 9 місяців тому +1

      You still have to do your own research and pick the one better for you. Like Josh said the MR tuning is cheaper if your looking to save money. MR removes the EGT, so if you think it is something you fell is needed go with Malone. The units to install tunes are vey different; Malone is definitely better.

    • @shagsmcshrivels
      @shagsmcshrivels 9 місяців тому

      @everydaycommuter I understand that and it's good advice. My comment was referring to what his choice would be with his research and his application.

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  9 місяців тому +2

      I’m on the fence, I’m hoping for a longer term mileage test to shed some light on it. The tunezilla file went on after testing

    • @shagsmcshrivels
      @shagsmcshrivels 9 місяців тому +1

      @JoshsJettas thanks for the info Josh. All your content has been amazing and really helped fast track me in learning the CJAA.

  • @sbrader97
    @sbrader97 9 місяців тому +2

    Should have done the fuel test seperately without the acceleration test affecting the results

  • @iamnikobelic
    @iamnikobelic 8 місяців тому +1

    Are you not concerned with the DMF and clutch in the 6-speed manual for the CJAA? The extra torque from the tune could cause them to prematurely fail. Stage 0.5 seems to be the most appropriate if you're looking for reliability.

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  8 місяців тому +2

      As far as stage .5 vs 2? Not really, repeatedly launching it will be harder on the dmf or clutch then your usual sensible driving. Cruising and sensible driving your not going to see/use that increase in power, the odd time you floor it to pass someone or speed up on an on-ramp I can’t see it making a huge difference in overall longevity.

  • @countryguy4102
    @countryguy4102 Місяць тому

    Watched several of your videos on tunes. Based on your testing, I have decided to go with flowdirekt and MR tuning, I was considering stage 1 or 2 with DSG TUNE, because of mileage increases. But, I have a question before I consummate the purchase. I have read that tunes, especially tunzilla 2.0 and higher, can cause premature turbo failure; other tunes are also implicated. Or, increased probability? Is that always the case? 2015 Jetta with CVCA, fully stock. Thx.

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  Місяць тому

      So these are turbo limited engines, the stage 2/55 hp/whatever they call it is maxing the safe power output of the turbo, any tunes above that will require a bigger turbo. Your not going to have the heat and back pressure from the dpf anymore but you’ll be running the turbo at its limit, either way I think it’s a wash.
      My wife’s cjaa got an unknown mileage used turbo 45k ago and has ran tunezilla and Mr tuning stage 2 tunes the entire time.

  • @tannerl5607
    @tannerl5607 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm getting a lot of smoke at wide open throttle with Mr tuning stage 2 and delete, is that normal? I haven't tried the 25 horsepower tune, I'd assume that one creates less smoke

  • @x1800emohunterx
    @x1800emohunterx 9 місяців тому +1

    Mine gets some high EGT, even on medium pulls for me with a Stage 3 / CR170 Hybrid Turbo from Tunezilla. My idea is to water methanol inject to lower the EGT's. It will be a fall project for me.

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  9 місяців тому +1

      I was surprised at how fast it climbed, I can’t imagine the Mr tuning would be better. I know my modified alh doesn’t climb that fast.

  • @TheOnlyBlakeSpa
    @TheOnlyBlakeSpa 8 місяців тому +1

    Hi Josh, Im about to pull the trigger on the MR tuning stage 2 w/downpipe. And get rid of all the emissions crap. Now I found a chip called Evolv Chips that is a fuel conserve chip. It usually connects to your mass air flow sensor. They guarentee there chip does not add any permenant programs and can be discounted any time. Should I try it or is it something I can watch you try???

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  8 місяців тому +2

      I haven’t heard of those before. Sounds like it’ll fool the air intake amount and lean it out. Personally a tune with properly reading sensors will be the most efficient and if you want better mileage drive easier. The tune will get it running the perfect afr and if you keep your foot out of it it’ll use less furl

    • @TheOnlyBlakeSpa
      @TheOnlyBlakeSpa 8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks, @@JoshsJettas . Yeah, proabably a waste. My dad has a 2014 Impala and has increased his MPG by 2.5MPG but that's a different story. Well All I can say is I am excited to remove the EGR, DPF, and Exhaust. Im getting about 33-34MPG in my 2011 Jetta Hatchback TDI riding like an a$$hat so hopefully I can get up to 45mpg with the stage 2 MR Tuning program. Going to put a performance intake while at it. Thank for your videos but all I can say is I am dreading changing the timing belt when I get to that threshold of mileage.

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  8 місяців тому +2

      Yeah the diesels have quite a gain from tuning, I think you’ll really enjoy it

  • @jimkillen1065
    @jimkillen1065 2 місяці тому

    I never had a common rail vw .. i had the older vw diesel cars for 30 years for fuel economy and cost. My old 2002 is just a work car to save on fuel . I was wanting to buy a newer car that reliable.. So is there a model , year of the TDI i can buy that i can buy . A standard transmission model . I watched your video and that car will run so i interested in one with the tune ect . I live in a area where the tunes and other mods want be a problem. I could use a list of things that help with reliable . I will follow your channel to lean from . From the information i got on the forums i decided that perhaps a newer TDI Jetta was a problem with fuel pump or exhaust , def ect . I realize that is not the goal of this video but i buy a car and the tune ect if i can drive it with the terrible failure rate ect . Thanks for your testing

  • @narew1981
    @narew1981 Місяць тому

    Hi what about Mrtuning stage 1 with dpf intact for now, i was replaced 8000km ago under warranty

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  19 днів тому

      If your out of warranty now I’d tune it emissions intact and worry about deletes down the road

  • @kpound40
    @kpound40 9 місяців тому

    Hey where can I get blocking plates for the exhaust manifold and butterfly valve? The only two things I’m missing and can’t find anywhere to finish the job.

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  9 місяців тому

      This video should cover it off, I think it’s the ALH style if I remember correctly.
      CR TDI EGR Removal *For informational/diagnostic use only*
      ua-cam.com/video/f3bTbGSSA_k/v-deo.html

  • @bobsfriend360
    @bobsfriend360 9 місяців тому

    Curious where you found a cp4 disaster kit for a mk7 CRUA😅. I’m looking and not having much luck.

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  9 місяців тому +1

      The one I’m eyeing is from whitbread, although it’s only for 09-14 plus the V6’s, he doesn’t have anything listed for the crua/cvca

  • @gabrieldetwiler7078
    @gabrieldetwiler7078 2 місяці тому

    Does the mrtuning dsg tune have launch control like the Tunezilla/malone one?

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  2 місяці тому

      I haven’t used the Mr tuning dsg tune so I can’t answer that sorry

  • @11aquaraj
    @11aquaraj 6 місяців тому +1

    hi, are you in GTA area of toronto, i m looking for tune my 2014 VW jetta TDI, thanks

  • @everydaycommuter
    @everydaycommuter 9 місяців тому

    I did not like the powergate3 touch screen. Don’t know if mine was worse than others, but had to sit there hitting the buttons over and over.

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  9 місяців тому +2

      The arrows on the bottom seem the worse for me, glad I’m not the only one that thought that.

  • @brandengraham7113
    @brandengraham7113 9 місяців тому

    I have a CVCA Passat, do either of the tuners offer a top speed limiter removal, or the ability to change the limiter. Also, my car doesn't have a traction control button, do the tuners offer a switch for the traction control?

    • @everydaycommuter
      @everydaycommuter 9 місяців тому +1

      For the Jetta’s traction control is just hardware. Most likely you just have to install the button.

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  9 місяців тому

      What’s the limiter set at? I’m not sure I’ve ever hit it. They’re kits available for them, the Sportswagen came with it factory

    • @brandengraham7113
      @brandengraham7113 9 місяців тому

      @@JoshsJettas mine tops out at 192 km/h

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  9 місяців тому

      Yeah I haven’t hit that, I don’t trust the tires on it enough to try

    • @veager123
      @veager123 9 місяців тому +1

      Speed limit can be removed, traction control button can be added but does nothing for stability control

  • @joesaiditstrue
    @joesaiditstrue 5 місяців тому

    I've got a 2013 CJAA (Sportwagen), had the stage 2 tunezilla installed about a year ago. Shop was like 90min away and i've not been able to bring the car back since i had the work done. My question is:
    What would cause the engine to have some vibration after the installation of the tunes (Had the DSG and stage 2 installed)
    Things to note, I had the timing belt and waterpump replaced during the same appointment, as well as DPF/EGR delete w/ the rawtek downpipe from the turbo to the stock muffler
    I took it to a local shop to see if they could explain the engine vibration, and they said the engine mounts "looked fine" and that they said maybe the vibration is from the fact that the factory emissions and exhaust has been removed and maybe that's causing some vibration.
    I posted a thread about all of this on tdiforum and nobody really gave me any exact possible causes, "check mounts, see if they installed something backwards, etc"

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  5 місяців тому +1

      Vibration all the time as in engine runs rough? Or vibration when driving?

    • @joesaiditstrue
      @joesaiditstrue 5 місяців тому +1

      @@JoshsJettas engine doesn't run rough, but if you pop the hood and put your hand on the plastic cover, you can feel a very noticable vibration even when it's in park

  • @WestonFox1566
    @WestonFox1566 9 місяців тому

    I have a 2014 tdi jetta and I just bought the dpf delete downpipe plus egr block off plate for it. I was wondering if I need to get a tuner or can I just install the pipe without any issues?

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  9 місяців тому +1

      It needs the tune or else it’ll be in limp mode and the cooling fans will run on high and stay running on high until you unhook the battery.

    • @michaelpmorgida
      @michaelpmorgida 4 місяці тому +1

      @@JoshsJettaswas the car you were testing in this video run with dpf deleted or emissions intact. Thanks!

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  4 місяці тому +1

      @michaelpmorgida it was deleted

  • @scottirwin867
    @scottirwin867 9 місяців тому

    Can i do the Tunezilla Tune Stage 2 before i swap out the exhaust? I would install Tune and then reset it back to Stock and have somebody else install the exhaust.

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  9 місяців тому +1

      You can but if your leaving the tune on the exhaust needs installing shortly after.

  • @michaelpmorgida
    @michaelpmorgida 4 місяці тому +1

    Ok so I’m confused by this test compared to my golf cjaa…you blew the tires off 1st through 2nd.. on my tunezilla stage 2 after first installed best I could get was a chirp in 2nd.. and now it doesn’t chirp 2nd anymore.. so my question is was this test performed with all emissions in tact? Or does this car have a downpipe? My car has all emissions in tact,so if you tell me this car has a downpipe I’ll have reason to believe the downpipe makes a pretty big difference which I was told it does not make a difference much at all.. if you tell me this car has all emissions in tact I’ll say there is something seriously wrong with my tune,my car is fresh with 65k miles and all services done so I can’t imagine it’s the car..either way let me know your thoughts and if this test was run with emissions or if the car has a down pipe.thanks! Keep up the good content!

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  4 місяці тому +2

      Deleted with a downpipe, although for reference it had stock size winter tires on it. I’ve noticed with my ALH better tires make a world of difference in the lower gears.

    • @michaelpmorgida
      @michaelpmorgida 4 місяці тому

      @@JoshsJettashave you driven the cjaa with stage 2 with emissions intact vs stage 2 deleted? Just wondering if you noticed a difference in power and performance between the the stage 2 with emissions intact vs stage 2 with the dpf delete? People keep saying it adds no performance but I can’t see how that’s possible when removing restriction then adding the tune file add on for the delete. Thanks!

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  3 місяці тому

      @michaelpmorgida I haven’t, I think power gains should be similar but I don’t think mileage would be as good

  • @hanlee8416
    @hanlee8416 4 місяці тому

    is 25 hp be easy on DSG and the engine than 55hp tune? (MR tuning)
    or longevity doesn't really matter whether u do 55hp or 25hp??

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  3 місяці тому

      Maybe a little bit, I’d still run the 55hp tune and just drive sensibly

  • @taylorbroschart9713
    @taylorbroschart9713 2 місяці тому

    Do you have an email my man? I Have a few questions on my 2014 sportwagon Rawtek DPF ERG delete with the Tunezilla tune im currently doing.

  • @Soter_Rev
    @Soter_Rev 5 місяців тому

    Did you get to do that Florida trip yet? 😁

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  5 місяців тому +2

      Sadly we didn’t, our new born son was having some health complications so decided to play it safe.
      I’m hoping to be able to test this more accurately yet though

    • @hanlee8416
      @hanlee8416 3 місяці тому

      @@JoshsJettas congrats on birth of your new born. and I pray that his health gets better.

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  3 місяці тому

      @hanlee8416 thank you, there was a few months of wondering what was going on but everything is sorted out now

  • @tannerl5607
    @tannerl5607 5 місяців тому

    Thanks!

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  5 місяців тому

      Thank you, hope it answered any questions you had between the teo

  • @cobymcclellan6585
    @cobymcclellan6585 5 місяців тому

    Hey Josh your videos have been very informative and helpful. My car has been in the shop for over a week now and we have been having issues with the powergate as my technician missed a step with downloading the template for the dsg tune. This is the message he has been receiving "“I messed up and didn't load the dual protocol like mentioned above. Cleared everything out and downloaded the template but now Im getting an error message that says, Mod file not present please contact your master (Error F002). Can you help with this or do I still need to contact alientech?" Martin for MR Tuning has really been no help and I don't know if you ever ran into this problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  5 місяців тому +1

      So is the ecu still stock? I did this once, I read the ecu then when I went to upload the file is when I caught on it was supposed to be dual protocol. So your tech updated the powergate with the dual protocol template, did he get a stock read on the ecu again? The update wipes all the data so you’ll have to get another read on the stock ecu (it’ll automatically do dsg this time too) then upload that to the online tune creator

    • @cobymcclellan6585
      @cobymcclellan6585 5 місяців тому

      @@JoshsJettas I am not sure where the tech messed up. Supposedly he installed the dual protocol and it says that the mod file is missing I'm guessing. Martin suggested that we send back the powergate and they would send a new one but I don't have time to wait. This shop is a tunezilla dealer I just don't want to be out money for both tunes.

    • @cobymcclellan6585
      @cobymcclellan6585 5 місяців тому

      @@JoshsJettas Ok I have the powergate in my hands now. I downloaded the MRTuning software to my computer, plugged the device in, then did the 3rd step where I download the dual protocol to my computer since I bought the dsg tune. Went back to the software, and hit upload template to install dual protocol to powergate, seemed to go well. Next step was to take powergate to car port and hit tuning and select vehicle. The error message I received was Mod File not present please contact your Master (Error F002) Have you experienced this before?

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  5 місяців тому +1

      @cobymcclellan6585 I haven’t but maybe the shop got the stock file on there already? If you hook the powergate to your laptop and open the Mr tuning software and click download will it save anything?

    • @cobymcclellan6585
      @cobymcclellan6585 5 місяців тому

      @@JoshsJettas They forgot to do the dual protocol initially and I believe they hit erase data in the MRTuning software. It does download stuff, my question to you is if you have a powergate present can you see what the modfile database looks like when you have connected to your computer and in the tuning software? I believe mine is blank and I wanted to see if yours was showing a file of some sort?

  • @JamesTLangford
    @JamesTLangford 9 місяців тому +1

    are you going to do this with your V10s?

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  9 місяців тому +1

      I would like to but the issue is finding enough companies that tune them, Malone discontinued support for them this year.

  • @tracirose1376
    @tracirose1376 7 місяців тому

    I have a 2013 Beetle TDI 2.0 CR l4 with a dsg transmission... im in alabama if you need a guinea pig 😂

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  7 місяців тому

      That’s abit of a tour from Ontario Canada

  • @redsresearch
    @redsresearch 8 місяців тому

    so you cant monitor egt with mr but you can with malone?

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  8 місяців тому

      Correct atleast using the obd read out. You can install an egt sensor like older TDI’s with an external gauge but that’s a bit of work, would be nice if it actually had a read out.

    • @redsresearch
      @redsresearch 8 місяців тому

      @@JoshsJettas hows it a bit of work?

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  8 місяців тому +1

      The egt sensors are usually pipe thread, so you’ll have to drill the manifold, prevent shavings from getting in there and then wire up the gauge

    • @yourbadger5486
      @yourbadger5486 4 місяці тому

      ​@@JoshsJettasYeah fuck that I just wanna make sure my cjaa stays running aslong as possible😂

  • @CMigs
    @CMigs 8 місяців тому

    are you in Canada?

  • @simonpettersson146
    @simonpettersson146 3 місяці тому

    fwd?

    • @JoshsJettas
      @JoshsJettas  3 місяці тому +1

      front wheel drive? yes all VW 4 cylinder TDIs here are fwd