Gotta appreciate the old generation of diesels, where they were built to last - no dpf, no plastic engine components or fancy electronics prone to failure
While I kind of agree with you I have to say that these engines had plastic components and an ecu . The injection pump was electronically controlled and the Mercedes of the 90s suffered greatly from rotting wiring harnesses because they chose recyclable cable insulations . On the other hand modern engine management is a blessing even for tuners . We wouldn't be able to achieve nearly the power we do without modern engine management and the electronics got so much more reliable . I would rather say that the 90s were a heaven for great engines because the manufacturing capabilities were there to build very strong components but the computing power wasn't there to engineer them so they would just barely be strong enough to hold the required power in order to save money .
They dont Need DPF. Indirect injection engines don't make NoX comparable to New engines. It's a common rail High pressure Lean running engine problem. NoX is a manufactured issue. Since Diesels were forced to Use less and less fuel because Oil companies defended their interests by raising Fuel prices to protect Gasoline cars that were losing all battles very fast to ever-growing power and speed of 90s Turbo diesels. And Gasoline cars Sell Oil reserves not Diesels.
@@DexMaster881Are you serious? You've just shown to have absolutely no idea here. DPF is for Diesel Particle Filter, that is, soot, smoke! Older diesels made a lot more because the injection systems wouldn't atomize the fuel very fine, that's why we got into the 2200bar common rail, fuel spray is much finer, combustion is greatly enhanced, thus better economy and less soot. The Nox trap is an entirely different thing. Also, they ran much higher compression ratios, easily 21-25:1, so they made a lot more Nox, that's why modern diesel have much lower compression, around 16:1. A diesel always run very lean, unless floored.
@@dabyd64 Thank you Fellow Mechanical Engineer. I forgot my Diploma isnt approved by World Indoctrination organization. FYI Sooth is Overfueling or, Running Rich state on Old diesels. To be more precise, more fuel than air volume can handle results in a rich state that Significantly raises combustion Temps since theres not enough air to filly combust all the fuel. NoX is an occurance when theres a Lean state. Theres too much N from the Burn left to Bond with air and return to natural state. Produced by the lack of burning components in Modern Diesel fuel that has natural stabilizing components removed from it. Like Sulfur. As a result all impurities in Fuel and air get charred and you see sooth. On top of which there is more fuel with more impurities that can not be burned because theres a lack of air to satisfy optimal AFR. They always there But it's not burned unless the combustion Temp doesn't reach needed levels. Same particles always come in and out of the Engine in Gasoline cars and Common rails but dont get Burned unless there is something very off with AFR. Like a well worn engine,or Over tuned one. So When you criticize someone don't be a Feminist but Learn some fact. "I say" doesn't really work in 2022 people are more educated now. And they have more access to information other than Local propaganda. You Can report me to your Indoctrination party leader, I won't hold it against you. Science doesn't work for politics ,It should work for Knowledge and knowledge only. And don't forget to support your Local Oil Tycoons in the upcoming elections :) Cheers m8 have a great day. Oh yeah and OM602/603/605/606 run at 21:1 and 22:1 from the factory :) Check you facts...
As someone who is HEAVILY involved with the mercedes diesel world, I have to say I am incredibly impressed with the research you put into this video. Everything was incredibly accurate, even down to that general HP to CC breakdown at 4:12. Great video!
@@theaussienurseflipper.8113 as an Australian who's still looking for a source to import these in numbers, I believe you may be referring to DieselPumpUK (DPUK)
@@joshthomas2536 if you can get them imported as an incomplete part they cant charge you the full vat i think its 13% for components or get someone in uk to buy and ship to austrailia with lower figured invoice
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 yep I'm sure over in EU its wayyy more common so its not the same but over here they r completely different than our diesels haha
I'm running my OM606 W210 for 9th year now and I love it. It is slightly tuned with T04E, bigger intercooler and an custom 76mm exhaust. Currently running on 260hp and 500nm on stock pump.
@@Anselmo_Simoes the cooler is 550x230x63 and the AC is working perfectly. The only thing you have to do is a slighly cut the metal frame that holds the front bumper. About 2-3sm cut so the cooler is not that low.
Thanks for that info. I ran the 5 cyl in 2 models over 6oo thousand miles but those were cast iron blocks and heads. The early 6 cyl ha a reputation for bending the number 1 rod. It had the aluminum head and cast iron block. I had no idea the 606 could run like that. This was a great article. Thank you for your great work
Early 2000s my company car was an E class 2.7 CDI with six speed manual, I loved it. The torque of that 5 cyl. motor was always very impressive through the gears, but the later V6 autos felt very 'treacle-drive & breathless' in comparison. : )
The 2.7 CDI came here stateside in the Sprinters and they are my favorite engine of all time. Currently driving a V6 CDI E-class and I love it, but the stock tune is definitely gutless compared to the OM647
We had a 2006 E320 CDI with the 3.0L straight six and it was a blast to drive. The black death and crappy insulation on the wiring was a PITA though. Ended up selling it when the key sensor died and it was going to be $2500 to fix it. Figured with the wiring insulation issue it was going to be a headache so we sold it to a guy who specializes in used Mercedes.
Well its incorrect Diesel burns slower. It actually burns faster. Diesel Burn is done 95% by the time Piston does 1/3 of its travel on the combustion cycle. Reason Why Diesels have lower RPM is: Heavier parts providing more inertia, and Injection system. Diesel fuel is compressible and at high RPM it starts lagging the ignition timing. Since Fuel injection is Ignition timing device, It reaches a point where Does not Start to squirt at TDC or slightly before TDC(which is a manufacturer compensation system for fuel compressibility). For Mercedes Om 602/603 Fuel Pump is set to start squirting 13 deg before TDC because of the Fuel line length and fuel compression compensation. And that's at around 150bar. Common rail is much bigger pressure on later DI diesels. Late injection results in Late ignition, that results in power decrease and Engine loses the ability to speed up. Same as Gasoline engine with late spark... The fact Diesel burns faster is also one of the reasons why Diesel engines have more torque. Because The Power is delivered while the Combustion space is still small. Increasing the efficiency of the explosion that pushes the Piston down. Its also the reason for Diesel Knocking sounds because you have stronger explosions that last shorter, making a distinct Start and end, resulting in sounds that are more individually distinct per explosion. While Gasoline engines burn for longer ,resulting in Burns that take place in larger space and as such waste energy since it no longer pushes the piston but turns to heat. That in combination with Less energy dense fuel and Lower compression to begin with badly affects torque. Also why you need more Fuel to keep the engine running. And also a reason Why Diesel Engines rarely throw short flames only visible when Exhaust headers are off at High RPM, while Gasoline cars can throw flames that will come out the End of the Entire exhaust system.
Just got my 1992 G350td with OM606 turbodiesel swap back on the road after 4 years(bought as a unfinished project car)! 722.6 trans with ofgear and maxed out(+5mm bigger internals) stock turbo with 7mm mechanical mynäpump. Not yet tuned properly but still coal rolling like a rocket with 1bar of boost(should be double when I get the ofg boost control to work). Turbo whistle is just massive! :)
Had a CLK 270 i5 diesel. It went and went and went. Great on fuel.... plenty of poke on the road too. Sounded great when going too. Cannot beat a Benz.
Thank you dude! I discovered this engine in 2019 watching a video of diesel engines that you upload, and from that moment I can't stop learning and watching about because this is my dream engine built. The main problem is that in my country there are few e300td for sale and even working properly. I hope in the future more videos like this. Big hug and keep going!
My first MB 1996 E320 had the M104 i6 engine and it was the best car I've ever owned. Including todays EQC 400. It's such a shame that it rusted out, it was still mint technically and indoors.
Thank you for this amazing video as always! I recently sold my buddy a om606 turbo and he’s still debating on what car to put it in. He’s going to do a full power build with a manual transmission. We both come from m57’s and the 606 deserves its respect.
Great video as always man 👍 Every Mercedes engine of this era is way more capable than Mercedes made them, this is why you see so many massive milage 80-90s Mercedes car. All these where made when Mercedes truly over built their engines. Also many of the petrol and diesel engines used design features or measurements from each other, for example I plan to fit a OM 601 D23 crankshaft in a M111 2.3 to build a stroker engine with shortened rods. This is why I and many others love tuning these old engines.
My dad had a few w210 E300 Turbodiesel's with this engine. One time the muffler fell off and the sound of this engine (stock) was just AMAZING. Sounds like a tank or a truck on steriods haha everybody asked if it was a V8. Its a monster of an engine :) thanks for your video
you are really making some well researched videos. i have an OM642 (successor of this engine) in a 2008 Jeep Grand Cherokee. it is great on fuel and smooth as butter. highly recommend this engine.
Very cool engine, very happy to see a video from you about it. Been following a build by the Boosted Bois on here too, where they snuck one of these under the hood of an old nissan 240z. Haven't seen too many recent updates on that, but altogether really makes me want to see more people using this instead of other i6 engines in their project cars.
Another great mercedes diesel is the 3.2L om648 I would say it has the same capabilities as the om606 or even more, more tunable, less smoke, more power :)
Gotta love a nice OM606 video 🥰 ... fun thing is due to the mechanic fuel pump these engines run great on nearly any oils you throw at them, Dieselpump UK has even done a dyno comparison of veggie oil vs normal diesel, turned out the veggie oil from Costco had some more hp in it then diesel 😆👌
U can, Mercedes loves the veggie oil. But I personally have 2 tanks, one tank with diesel for the starting and stopping the motor. That way you keep the pump and injectors clean from veggie.oil which can clog up when cold. You can just stick a plastic boat tank in your boot diesel in a run a lineup
@@jinglemyberries866 my dad and i both owned Mercedes 190 D 2.5 a decade or two ago and did many thousand km on veggie oil, often mixed in the tank with diesel. Never had any issues. It's a temperature thing. Veggie oil in summer, diesel in winter, and mixed in spring and fall worked good for us. But nowadays with mordern diesel engines and veggie oil being even more expensive then diesel the really fun times of rolling not coal but McDonald's smell fumes are over 😕😅
Hey, you used one of my videos! Fine with me, well done on the research and putting this video together. OM606 is just one of the legends, curious to see what the future holds for some of the builds with the newer engine management technologies. Baldur and Black Smoke have a controller for some of the common rail models now, should make things more interesting. I think these exceed the IDI engines in reliability and potential fun factor, so which is best?
"ST", same as a Super turbo is finnish invention. Finnish people was first, who get a lot of power out of mercedes diesel engines. Mercedes om 60X engines are great for extra tuning and you can get a lot of power out of these. Just great engines for tuning power.
I've never really been into diesels but I've been aware of the OM series because a lot of Toyota rock crawler people and off-roaders swap them in search of more power and torque this video has opened my eyes to the high-end tuning capabilities of such a readily available cheap motor and since I know there's adapter kits to put them to Toyota I'll probably put one in my Toyota dually
Visio great video as usual 😊👍😌 great to see these Merc engines finally making a name would be good to see the m104 the petrol version of this seem over 1000bhp many times 😁
I had my Mercedes diesel remapped. It lost a little at the bottom but at 3000 it lights on fire. The downshift is only there if I push hard so its not wasteful or nervous. My big, heavy, diesel sipping 4 cylinder powered wagon is faster than my 70' base model Corvette gas guzzler.
@@bapr3887 idk about bad fuel effiency i got a 450 hp 800 nm om606 and it doesnt drink much diesel, about 6liters to 100km will be even less when i tune the pump better on dyno. smokes like hell now 😂 less smoke would be ideal
I was driven around Kenya and other neighbouring nations in a 1960's MB 911 4WD truck. I remember we climbed a mountain at walking pace and engine just kept on going and going even after 50 years in hard service.
Bought a 1999 E300td 6 months ago with a genuine 34k on the clock for the wife to do the school run in and commute to work, it's incredible in all honestly solid well built no rattles creaks etc the engine is fantastic and with the auto gearbox is also better then I thought it would be, it's a very impressive car for it's age and I got it for an excellent price I know there known for reliability hence why when this come up I had to have it and so far me my wife and kids all prefer to take it out for a family day rather then my 335i !
I have 4 MB OM diesels, 2 No. untampered with 617 diesels in a 3:31 1984 G Wagen and another 1989 G Wagen, both start absolutely "first kick" even after sitting fir years. Then an OM 605 in a reengined 1989 G Wagen, it goes like stink with a fettled Dieselmekkan IP. And then a 1999 Steyr Daimler Puch G Wagen with the factory OM603 ( the same engine as the contempory 1999vSprinter vans )
Love the diesel engines of mercedes light trucks and vans , the good old OM314 and later OM364 and later turbo and intercooler versions . As long as you feed them oil , they will keep going for ever. Simpel technique that almost everyone can fix with simple tools , and most important : no computer and EGR .
I'm looking at a mercedes w210 with a 606 engine without a turbo, can you easily put a turbo on it or is it best to find one with a turbo? and what is the difference between one with a turbo and one without
So if i can make a conclusion . Om606 dont need big cc because of the efficiency of the precombustion chamber . The fuel pump can be modified for cc injection by a simple length parts and the tolerance or the injector can accept patatoe oil . In my opinion the only avantage to go without common rail is for dyi fuel . Otherwise you need ui injection system to archive sufficient psi for injection . Can we reach 30 000 psi with a tuned mecanic pump from uk punk pump diesel ?
Diesel engines are amazing and are built like a tank and it would last longer on regular maintenance and with a aftermarket exhaust it sounds like a jet engine during startup
Buenas tardes me gustaría saber si uds tienen un diagrama o explicación de cómo va el árbol de leva y cadena del Mercedes 300 E 86 se lo agradecería gracias.
Great engine! Shame diesel is on its way out due to more and more environmental pressure. What about the Volvo D5 engines by the way? Also very capable
Nice video, problem here in Australia that people who could afford to buy luxury cars when new, they're didn't buy diesels. I heard the early SsangYong Musso used a Mercedes diesel or a copied one.
There's a channel called Team Boosted that built a Datsun 240Z wide body, with a hopped up OM606 that is absolutely mental! They've still got it, as far as I'm aware, but they haven't posted any content in quite a while.🤔
WHY did you put that first dashboard movie showing some 400bhp Turbo OM606 acceleration ..right after description about OM606 n/a engine of.. 136bhp?!? Because people could be stupid enought to believe that acceleration it comes from a.. 136bhp n/a diesel engine?!😂😂
My only gripe with the OM606 Turbo is that aluminium isn’t the best material for a Diesel engine head, in the naturally aspirated versions, they’re fine, but, it left a negative impact on the legacy of the turbocharged versions. My main gripe with the OM617, likewise, is that it’s not an inline 6, or DOHC. If they made a cast iron head for the OM606 Turbo, that would solve its main problem.
i also recently found out the om606 and 2jz arent much different from their basic components. the cylinder heads(cams, valves and chain drive), motor mounts(JDM and german cars share the same or almost identical motor mounts which hot rod garage found out when swapping a 2jz in the place of the V8 in the mercedes SL500 from 2002 to 2006), and also physical displacement(2997cc 2jz vs 2996 om606) in fact they are the same engine.
its even more obvious when you compare 2jz to mercedes m104 its exactly same toyota and yamaha maybe did some copying:D but why would you make a worse engine when you can copy perfection
Gotta appreciate the old generation of diesels, where they were built to last - no dpf, no plastic engine components or fancy electronics prone to failure
While I kind of agree with you I have to say that these engines had plastic components and an ecu . The injection pump was electronically controlled and the Mercedes of the 90s suffered greatly from rotting wiring harnesses because they chose recyclable cable insulations . On the other hand modern engine management is a blessing even for tuners . We wouldn't be able to achieve nearly the power we do without modern engine management and the electronics got so much more reliable .
I would rather say that the 90s were a heaven for great engines because the manufacturing capabilities were there to build very strong components but the computing power wasn't there to engineer them so they would just barely be strong enough to hold the required power in order to save money .
They dont Need DPF.
Indirect injection engines don't make NoX comparable to New engines. It's a common rail High pressure Lean running engine problem.
NoX is a manufactured issue. Since Diesels were forced to Use less and less fuel because Oil companies defended their interests by raising Fuel prices to protect Gasoline cars that were losing all battles very fast to ever-growing power and speed of 90s Turbo diesels. And Gasoline cars Sell Oil reserves not Diesels.
@@DexMaster881Are you serious? You've just shown to have absolutely no idea here.
DPF is for Diesel Particle Filter, that is, soot, smoke! Older diesels made a lot more because the injection systems wouldn't atomize the fuel very fine, that's why we got into the 2200bar common rail, fuel spray is much finer, combustion is greatly enhanced, thus better economy and less soot.
The Nox trap is an entirely different thing.
Also, they ran much higher compression ratios, easily 21-25:1, so they made a lot more Nox, that's why modern diesel have much lower compression, around 16:1.
A diesel always run very lean, unless floored.
Just to add you can put the fully mechanical om603 pump on the 606 and it can run without an ecu
@@dabyd64 Thank you Fellow Mechanical Engineer. I forgot my Diploma isnt approved by World Indoctrination organization.
FYI Sooth is Overfueling or, Running Rich state on Old diesels.
To be more precise, more fuel than air volume can handle results in a rich state that Significantly raises combustion Temps since theres not enough air to filly combust all the fuel.
NoX is an occurance when theres a Lean state. Theres too much N from the Burn left to Bond with air and return to natural state. Produced by the lack of burning components in Modern Diesel fuel that has natural stabilizing components removed from it. Like Sulfur.
As a result all impurities in Fuel and air get charred and you see sooth. On top of which there is more fuel with more impurities that can not be burned because theres a lack of air to satisfy optimal AFR. They always there But it's not burned unless the combustion Temp doesn't reach needed levels.
Same particles always come in and out of the Engine in Gasoline cars and Common rails but dont get Burned unless there is something very off with AFR. Like a well worn engine,or Over tuned one.
So When you criticize someone don't be a Feminist but Learn some fact. "I say" doesn't really work in 2022 people are more educated now. And they have more access to information other than Local propaganda.
You Can report me to your Indoctrination party leader, I won't hold it against you.
Science doesn't work for politics ,It should work for Knowledge and knowledge only.
And don't forget to support your Local Oil Tycoons in the upcoming elections :) Cheers m8 have a great day.
Oh yeah and OM602/603/605/606 run at 21:1 and 22:1 from the factory :) Check you facts...
As someone who is HEAVILY involved with the mercedes diesel world, I have to say I am incredibly impressed with the research you put into this video. Everything was incredibly accurate, even down to that general HP to CC breakdown at 4:12. Great video!
Hey mate I in Australia, I see there is company in UK which changes the injection pump to mechanical. It there like kits you can buy, cheers
@@theaussienurseflipper.8113 as an Australian who's still looking for a source to import these in numbers, I believe you may be referring to DieselPumpUK (DPUK)
@@joshthomas2536 yes I was
@@joshthomas2536 if you can get them imported as an incomplete part they cant charge you the full vat i think its 13% for components or get someone in uk to buy and ship to austrailia with lower figured invoice
@@kavlin88commit tax fraud 👌
always brings a smile to my face when I tell people I drive a DOHC IDI **DIESEL** Mercedes. love the videos keep em going :)
Do you live on America?
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 yep I'm sure over in EU its wayyy more common so its not the same but over here they r completely different than our diesels haha
Om600 series when low limiter rpm truck and BUS !
also driving a mercedes diesel in the states here!
Proud owner of 2007 E-Class with OM646 under the bonnet. Over 400,000km without a problem. Very reliable.
I'm running my OM606 W210 for 9th year now and I love it. It is slightly tuned with T04E, bigger intercooler and an custom 76mm exhaust. Currently running on 260hp and 500nm on stock pump.
Hi what kind of intercooler are you using?
Did you had to remove the ac condenser?
@@Anselmo_Simoes the cooler is 550x230x63 and the AC is working perfectly. The only thing you have to do is a slighly cut the metal frame that holds the front bumper. About 2-3sm cut so the cooler is not that low.
@@bobihristov739 thanks i'm going to look for one with the same dimensions
@benz merc Naah. In the city about 10-13l/100 depending on the traffic, on the highway with 130-140 7/100 or less
How much would it cost for such a job 🙄 sounds great to me 👏
My OM617 is still running great for 43 years. 300SD North America only model
I've got the sucessor of 617, the OM602...these engines are the most resistant of the history of diesel engines never made
I have a 300sd w140 with an om603 they're rare but it's still a w140
I love my 1984 w126 whit om617
Thanks for that info. I ran the 5 cyl in 2 models over 6oo thousand miles but those were cast iron blocks and heads. The early 6 cyl ha a reputation for bending the number 1 rod. It had the aluminum head and cast iron block.
I had no idea the 606 could run like that. This was a great article. Thank you for your great work
Early 2000s my company car was an E class 2.7 CDI with six speed manual, I loved it. The torque of that 5 cyl. motor was always very impressive through the gears, but the later V6 autos felt very 'treacle-drive & breathless' in comparison. : )
Had both, 2.7 inline 5 and 3.0 v6. The v6 is a beast compared to the 2.7
@@ailokemi92 - Were they both auto?
The 2.7 CDI came here stateside in the Sprinters and they are my favorite engine of all time. Currently driving a V6 CDI E-class and I love it, but the stock tune is definitely gutless compared to the OM647
We had a 2006 E320 CDI with the 3.0L straight six and it was a blast to drive. The black death and crappy insulation on the wiring was a PITA though. Ended up selling it when the key sensor died and it was going to be $2500 to fix it. Figured with the wiring insulation issue it was going to be a headache so we sold it to a guy who specializes in used Mercedes.
Well its incorrect Diesel burns slower. It actually burns faster.
Diesel Burn is done 95% by the time Piston does 1/3 of its travel on the combustion cycle.
Reason Why Diesels have lower RPM is: Heavier parts providing more inertia, and Injection system.
Diesel fuel is compressible and at high RPM it starts lagging the ignition timing. Since Fuel injection is Ignition timing device, It reaches a point where Does not Start to squirt at TDC or slightly before TDC(which is a manufacturer compensation system for fuel compressibility). For Mercedes Om 602/603 Fuel Pump is set to start squirting 13 deg before TDC because of the Fuel line length and fuel compression compensation. And that's at around 150bar. Common rail is much bigger pressure on later DI diesels.
Late injection results in Late ignition, that results in power decrease and Engine loses the ability to speed up. Same as Gasoline engine with late spark...
The fact Diesel burns faster is also one of the reasons why Diesel engines have more torque. Because The Power is delivered while the Combustion space is still small. Increasing the efficiency of the explosion that pushes the Piston down. Its also the reason for Diesel Knocking sounds because you have stronger explosions that last shorter, making a distinct Start and end, resulting in sounds that are more individually distinct per explosion.
While Gasoline engines burn for longer ,resulting in Burns that take place in larger space and as such waste energy since it no longer pushes the piston but turns to heat. That in combination with Less energy dense fuel and Lower compression to begin with badly affects torque. Also why you need more Fuel to keep the engine running.
And also a reason Why Diesel Engines rarely throw short flames only visible when Exhaust headers are off at High RPM, while Gasoline cars can throw flames that will come out the End of the Entire exhaust system.
Just got my 1992 G350td with OM606 turbodiesel swap back on the road after 4 years(bought as a unfinished project car)! 722.6 trans with ofgear and maxed out(+5mm bigger internals) stock turbo with 7mm mechanical mynäpump. Not yet tuned properly but still coal rolling like a rocket with 1bar of boost(should be double when I get the ofg boost control to work). Turbo whistle is just massive! :)
I live basically down the road from Mynädiesel, who makes the diesel pump. Nice to see their parts still being used
which stock turbo is that? HX35?
@@jinglemyberries866 OM606 stock turbo
Had a CLK 270 i5 diesel. It went and went and went. Great on fuel.... plenty of poke on the road too.
Sounded great when going too.
Cannot beat a Benz.
This is one of my favorite videos from you yet! I learned a lot and fell in love with a different engine! I had no idea a diesel coyld rev so high!
Thank you dude! I discovered this engine in 2019 watching a video of diesel engines that you upload, and from that moment I can't stop learning and watching about because this is my dream engine built. The main problem is that in my country there are few e300td for sale and even working properly. I hope in the future more videos like this. Big hug and keep going!
Where r u from?
I have a similar story to yours, I'm from Australia and we had maybe 100 om606 vehicles delivered
Youd had a video with best engines for mods. Om606 was there. This is how I heard about it, and here I am, building w124 with om606 and big turbo xD
I guess it’s the German 6BT?! The stuff that DieselPumpUK do is insane! Great video as always;-)
I Would say it's more like a German (diesel) 2jz
The Cummins 6bt is a super flexible engine used in all kinds of vehicles from trucks to vans generators, water pumps………
Love OM 601-606 engines. Driving a 190d with an OM601❤️
My first MB 1996 E320 had the M104 i6 engine and it was the best car I've ever owned. Including todays EQC 400. It's such a shame that it rusted out, it was still mint technically and indoors.
Love your show man 👍💯 been watching since possibly the start.
Thank you for this amazing video as always! I recently sold my buddy a om606 turbo and he’s still debating on what car to put it in. He’s going to do a full power build with a manual transmission. We both come from m57’s and the 606 deserves its respect.
The best ever!))If you need remapping or turbokits for om605/606 engines write to pm.Have 250-550 hp kits.And you can see acceleration videos in work)
а компактный металлический впускной коллектор на w163 om612 где можно найти?
что конкретно предлагаете хочу поинтересоваться? сток 177 л.с w463
2:19 wow that revs out nicely
Great video as always man 👍 Every Mercedes engine of this era is way more capable than Mercedes made them, this is why you see so many massive milage 80-90s Mercedes car. All these where made when Mercedes truly over built their engines. Also many of the petrol and diesel engines used design features or measurements from each other, for example I plan to fit a OM 601 D23 crankshaft in a M111 2.3 to build a stroker engine with shortened rods. This is why I and many others love tuning these old engines.
My dad had a few w210 E300 Turbodiesel's with this engine. One time the muffler fell off and the sound of this engine (stock) was just AMAZING. Sounds like a tank or a truck on steriods haha everybody asked if it was a V8. Its a monster of an engine :) thanks for your video
Yessss finally!!! Speaking my language bro!!! Good shizz!!!
you are really making some well researched videos. i have an OM642 (successor of this engine) in a 2008 Jeep Grand Cherokee. it is great on fuel and smooth as butter. highly recommend this engine.
Very cool engine, very happy to see a video from you about it. Been following a build by the Boosted Bois on here too, where they snuck one of these under the hood of an old nissan 240z. Haven't seen too many recent updates on that, but altogether really makes me want to see more people using this instead of other i6 engines in their project cars.
Building my w124 superturbo here in Florida. What a mechanical marvel the om606 is
its in my benz ! love it
Good video 🔥👌 greetings from Finland ✌️
This is underrated diesel engine ever
Another great mercedes diesel is the 3.2L om648 I would say it has the same capabilities as the om606 or even more, more tunable, less smoke, more power :)
Its good but you cant go mechanical with that plus it needs more work to get to same power level as om606
I always enjoy these great diesel engine videos even though I don't own a diesel. Mercedes makes a great diesel engine especially this 1
I love how UA-cam's automatic subtitling puts "music" whenever engine noises are heard in this video.
Got a 606 in my s class even stock I love it it's a smooth operating engine in that until you open the window and hear the john deer sound 😅
Great video, as always. Keep up the good work.
Gotta love a nice OM606 video 🥰 ... fun thing is due to the mechanic fuel pump these engines run great on nearly any oils you throw at them, Dieselpump UK has even done a dyno comparison of veggie oil vs normal diesel, turned out the veggie oil from Costco had some more hp in it then diesel 😆👌
can you add veggie oil to the diesel tank? Like, is it a problem if the two mix? sry for my ignorance.
U can, Mercedes loves the veggie oil. But I personally have 2 tanks, one tank with diesel for the starting and stopping the motor. That way you keep the pump and injectors clean from veggie.oil which can clog up when cold. You can just stick a plastic boat tank in your boot diesel in a run a lineup
@@jinglemyberries866 my dad and i both owned Mercedes 190 D 2.5 a decade or two ago and did many thousand km on veggie oil, often mixed in the tank with diesel. Never had any issues. It's a temperature thing. Veggie oil in summer, diesel in winter, and mixed in spring and fall worked good for us. But nowadays with mordern diesel engines and veggie oil being even more expensive then diesel the really fun times of rolling not coal but McDonald's smell fumes are over 😕😅
@@nopadelik9286 that is awesome! Thanks for the info man!
@@theaussienurseflipper.8113 ahh cool, Thanks for the info!!
2:10 Best diesel sound I've heard😍
Go and hear 3.0 tdi sound.
@@bapr3887 Old engines do way better sound than new ones.
@@florianb4266 old diesels? No
@@bapr3887 I think BMW M51 and MERCEDES OM 60x (5 and 6 cyl) sound better than actual ones
OM-352, OM-366, Cummins ISC/ISL and Scania V8 sent their greetings...
Great Video👍
Keep it up man!
My ultimate zombie apocalypse vehicle would be running an om606. These things can run on almost anything and make good powet
Hey, you used one of my videos! Fine with me, well done on the research and putting this video together. OM606 is just one of the legends, curious to see what the future holds for some of the builds with the newer engine management technologies. Baldur and Black Smoke have a controller for some of the common rail models now, should make things more interesting. I think these exceed the IDI engines in reliability and potential fun factor, so which is best?
"ST", same as a Super turbo is finnish invention. Finnish people was first, who get a lot of power out of mercedes diesel engines. Mercedes om 60X engines are great for extra tuning and you can get a lot of power out of these. Just great engines for tuning power.
I've never really been into diesels but I've been aware of the OM series because a lot of Toyota rock crawler people and off-roaders swap them in search of more power and torque this video has opened my eyes to the high-end tuning capabilities of such a readily available cheap motor and since I know there's adapter kits to put them to Toyota I'll probably put one in my Toyota dually
Long time ago my father had an mercedes truck with an om366 making 140hp straight 6 n/a that beast had 850.000km on it runs like new.
Today I learned that this is the true diesel 2JZ
Visio great video as usual 😊👍😌 great to see these Merc engines finally making a name would be good to see the m104 the petrol version of this seem over 1000bhp many times 😁
You need to get one of them 605s bro 😉 yeah I thought I might find you here for the same reason as me....606 goodness 😍
@@M-oneeleven-M111 can't resist the nasty 606 and 605 noises 🤣🤣🤣
@@BoostWorx Amen to that dude, A big turbo 605 202 would be great fun I think. But just that sound is an eargasm 🤣
I had my Mercedes diesel remapped. It lost a little at the bottom but at 3000 it lights on fire. The downshift is only there if I push hard so its not wasteful or nervous. My big, heavy, diesel sipping 4 cylinder powered wagon is faster than my 70' base model Corvette gas guzzler.
Basically, the 2JZ in diesel ^^ Best engine Merco ever made.
m57 is more "2jz in diesel" Its way sporty, lightweight and revvy than this old om606. Om606 is just old tractor with bad fuel efficiency.
@@bapr3887 idk about bad fuel effiency i got a 450 hp 800 nm om606 and it doesnt drink much diesel, about 6liters to 100km will be even less when i tune the pump better on dyno. smokes like hell now 😂 less smoke would be ideal
I would love to see a similar video about the 1.9 TDI from Volkswagen! I have one in my Škoda Octavia with over 510.000km without any major servicing.
I was driven around Kenya and other neighbouring nations in a 1960's MB 911 4WD truck. I remember we climbed a mountain at walking pace and engine just kept on going and going even after 50 years in hard service.
Bought a 1999 E300td 6 months ago with a genuine 34k on the clock for the wife to do the school run in and commute to work, it's incredible in all honestly solid well built no rattles creaks etc the engine is fantastic and with the auto gearbox is also better then I thought it would be, it's a very impressive car for it's age and I got it for an excellent price I know there known for reliability hence why when this come up I had to have it and so far me my wife and kids all prefer to take it out for a family day rather then my 335i !
Have thought about making an Unimog or MB-Trac video? Would be cool to hear you talk about them
please 1.9tdi next, we love diesels.
up in the north people put om606s in everything
its just so good😂
Amazing they can rev so high when tuned!
I have 4 MB OM diesels, 2 No. untampered with 617 diesels in a 3:31 1984 G Wagen and another 1989 G Wagen, both start absolutely "first kick" even after sitting fir years. Then an OM 605 in a reengined 1989 G Wagen, it goes like stink with a fettled Dieselmekkan IP.
And then a 1999 Steyr Daimler Puch G Wagen with the factory OM603 ( the same engine as the contempory 1999vSprinter vans )
Another vote for the OM616 which was licensed to Force Motors in India
why wont they put that sweet diesel in the G wagon..? i hear the new model over heats..
It isnt up to date with the climate standards, sadly 😢
Did you say they make a 4 cylinder engine like this 6?
Another great video.
@@OM617a 604 wasn't turbocharged from factory. In fact, the 611 was the first turbodiesel 4 cylinder they used in cars
@@niia.3642 thank you, now I need to go look up that engine.
@@OM617a thank you sir.
Let me ask this question, how long is the 6 cylinder engine? From the bell housing to the front pulley.
@@OM617a The 5 cylinder is turbo?
I have 1998 w210 300 turbo, and it runs great! infact the best car i've ever had.
Love the diesel engines of mercedes light trucks and vans , the good old OM314 and later OM364 and later turbo and intercooler versions . As long as you feed them oil , they will keep going for ever. Simpel technique that almost everyone can fix with simple tools , and most important : no computer and EGR .
The man who talk is very smart indeed man Mercedes-Benz are the best car's thank you!!!!!
Those tuned inline six diesels sound better than most v6 gasolines👌
Can we have the K9K (Diesel and Gasoline) next? In the Merc fam they know this engine as the OM607. Loved this
What about the OM605? Just as good and just one less cylinder, I love the OM605
At 3:02, those are pics from my thread on teambhp. Although those are not my pics originally even I used them to explain same thing
yess, my dream engine 👌🔥🔥
Love the power of a diesel❤
I'm looking at a mercedes w210 with a 606 engine without a turbo, can you easily put a turbo on it or is it best to find one with a turbo? and what is the difference between one with a turbo and one without
Just purchased one today! Looking forward to this awesome build I’m about to dive into
So if i can make a conclusion . Om606 dont need big cc because of the efficiency of the precombustion chamber . The fuel pump can be modified for cc injection by a simple length parts and the tolerance or the injector can accept patatoe oil . In my opinion the only avantage to go without common rail is for dyi fuel . Otherwise you need ui injection system to archive sufficient psi for injection . Can we reach 30 000 psi with a tuned mecanic pump from uk punk pump diesel ?
Diesel engines are amazing and are built like a tank and it would last longer on regular maintenance and with a aftermarket exhaust it sounds like a jet engine during startup
Excelente!! thanks for share!!
isuzu 4JJ vid suggestion
What does everyone think of the 5 cyl om605? Is the reliability similar?
Yep, and has almost the same power potential
@@ailokemi92 Thank you. I don't really care about raw power all that much. I just want an engine that can take me to hell and back.
Yeah is the same but 5 cylinder, the good think of 605 is the sound is fuckng awesome
@@nicolasp7395 Very good.
Buenas tardes me gustaría saber si uds tienen un diagrama o explicación de cómo va el árbol de leva y cadena del Mercedes 300 E 86 se lo agradecería gracias.
Beautiful engine ,I’m preparing one as well to put in bmw e36,mechanical pump and big turbo… 😁🤙🏻
Great engine! Shame diesel is on its way out due to more and more environmental pressure. What about the Volvo D5 engines by the way? Also very capable
Nice video, problem here in Australia that people who could afford to buy luxury cars when new, they're didn't buy diesels. I heard the early SsangYong Musso used a Mercedes diesel or a copied one.
Yes om602 non turbo
And om662 turbo Musso 👍
@@stevenmay3011 cheers mate. They r a bit pricey here.
Very nice vid. Best engine for me.
There's a channel called Team Boosted that built a Datsun 240Z wide body, with a hopped up OM606 that is absolutely mental! They've still got it, as far as I'm aware, but they haven't posted any content in quite a while.🤔
Love the 606! Any chance of a BMW M57 video soon?
WHY did you put that first dashboard movie showing some 400bhp Turbo OM606 acceleration ..right after description about OM606 n/a engine of.. 136bhp?!? Because people could be stupid enought to believe that acceleration it comes from a.. 136bhp n/a diesel engine?!😂😂
I love old Mercedes diesels... they run forever.
You should have a review on their new 2.0L 4 inline twin turbo diesel engine
Most of the powerful cars do run a mech pump from a earlier motor on the newer 606. Deisel pump UK has heaps of info
Wich manual transmission do you swap in a w210 300td?
My only gripe with the OM606 Turbo is that aluminium isn’t the best material for a Diesel engine head, in the naturally aspirated versions, they’re fine, but, it left a negative impact on the legacy of the turbocharged versions. My main gripe with the OM617, likewise, is that it’s not an inline 6, or DOHC. If they made a cast iron head for the OM606 Turbo, that would solve its main problem.
The engine is very strong 💪!
Is it Euro 7 emissions compliant? 🤓
only reliable engine that is Euro 7 compliant is walking on legs ayylmao
Euro7 is stupid
What's the opinion of the om642 195kw?
the om606 is the diesel 2jz
what is better om606 or om 613?
Ive got an Om605 in my Commer van 👍
Can you do a vid on the OM617?
i also recently found out the om606 and 2jz arent much different from their basic components. the cylinder heads(cams, valves and chain drive), motor mounts(JDM and german cars share the same or almost identical motor mounts which hot rod garage found out when swapping a 2jz in the place of the V8 in the mercedes SL500 from 2002 to 2006), and also physical displacement(2997cc 2jz vs 2996 om606) in fact they are the same engine.
its even more obvious when you compare 2jz to mercedes m104 its exactly same toyota and yamaha maybe did some copying:D but why would you make a worse engine when you can copy perfection
great i see the prices now for om606... used to be free basically
I drive a Vauxhall corsa d sricdti 1.7 turbo diesel 130bhp 220nmt its a Japanese engine and God do i love it had 128mph out of it
Love this one!!!!
the om648 is even more of a beast
I'd like to add that BMW's D30 have similar potential to some degree but burn less diesel oil
What´s a BMW D30?
@@Avke92 D30 is part BMW's engine code. It indicates 3.0 l diesel engine
@@hocek11 I got confused, thought you meant a engine family like N57.
I'm pretty sure that if you're burning any petrol at all in a diesel, you're doing something exceedingly wrong.
Badass Diesel engine