Mercedes OM606: The Diesel 2JZ
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- Опубліковано 9 бер 2023
- So, that's the legend of the Mercedes OM606 diesel engine. It's an absolute beast, surprisingly reliable for a german product, capable of making big power on a stock bottom end, and probably the best-sounding road-going diesel engine ever.
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Is the OM606 the best German diesel engine ever? 🤔
I don’t know about all that, the Deutz’s are pretty damn neat!
Can't beat the OM616. Formed the basis for the OM617 and even licensed to Force Motors in the 80's. No idea if it is still in production.
depends
I would say that the om606 and om648 are the two best. The 613 and m57 just can't handle the insane power bc of air restrictions. The 606 is a weak engine though block wise. It can handle around 700whp while the 648 can pretty much handle power to the moon with a girdle plate.
So conclusion is I believe that the 648 is the best german diesel ever made for my uses which is a race car, but in applications such as off-road the 606 is king
OM606 and 1.9 tdi have got to be some of the best diesels made for cars, hands down.
Totally. My VW friends are always like nahh when I tell them that they should tdi swap their old golfs and jettas and they all put a 1.8T in. 😢
Indeed, I own a 98 E300TD and 00 1.9TDI ALH
03 Jetta tdi here. 707,xxxkm and counting. Vnt17, DLC520, Old Man Intake, 2.75" straight pipe, Stage 2 Malone, 3 Bar MAP, EGR&cooler delete, 1" lift. When it dies i'm getting another ALH but hopefully a 2-door Golf.
@@RandomlnternetGuy if it dies why not get a block from a pick-n-pull or ebay? They can be found for a couple hundred bucks in certain areas!
@@henryfeige8596 back in 03 ,my buddy told me to build one, so I did.
Ahu in a 79 rabbit , I used a Garrett from a mk2 td ,it's manifolds ,no intercooler and a 12mm pump and race 520 nozzles.
Ditched the electronics for reliability.
Ran a 14 flat all day at 99 with horrible 2.5 second 60' times.
Still got it , havent touched it for probably 10yrs but it's going back together the current project is done.
Add some modern stuff like a better turbo and get some traction and it's definitely a 13sec car.
If that doesn't work, I do have a 2.0pd I could try or say screw diesel and go vr6t 😂
you forgot to mention that his engine also revs really high for a diesel engine, in stock form it revs to 5500 rpm and with aftermarket parts, some rev to over 7000rpm, ON A DIESEL!
I was looking at ways to get my 00 Jetta tdi to rev higher 😂 7k is insane. I can imagine it doesn’t make much power that high up. Especially torque
@@Juan-nf2my in that rev range they run cams that are similar to cams from gasoline engines so they make more power and torque high up in the rpm range, remember, thats all aftermarket stuff, nothing original
@@7_7_5 You can run 6.5k rpm easy in a 606 all you need is stiffer springs. I would not put cams on a 606 because that is not the thing that makes it rev so high. I have never met a guy who has put cams on their 606 in a street application.
@Henry Feige guys run the na cam profile on high performance stuff quite often.
As I came from VW diesels 6k doesn't impress me much 😂
Since it's indirect injection, it's capable of reving super high for a diesel, upwards to 7k rpm
I’ve seen on up to 8.5k
The injection might make a differnce but its a short stroker and this matters a lot.
I dont know and other Diesel
What has precombustion chambers got to do with rpm?
@@moe2470 the most rpm restricted component in diesels are injectors, direct injection just cant put the diesel in quick enough at super high rpm
@@moe2470 Above ~4500RPM a direct injecting diesel don't make any high power anymore, because of physics. The diesel has no time to combust. In the prechamber the diesel starts burning a lot earlier and can combust complete in higher rpm. That's why they make power in these high rpms.
Fun fact:OM606 can handle the boost until 5.4 bar after that the block is broken.
From Golan Dieselmeken.
That's 78 pisseyes(psi) for the guys who measure in bald eagles 😂
@@MrTheHillfolk holy shit someone stop this man
I'm driving a turbo OM606 for almost 10 years now as a daily. It's not making a ton of power. Currently pushing 260hp and 557nm on a stock pump with just intercooler and Chinese turbo for 150usd on 1.55 bar of boost without any smoke. The car is buttery smooth. Super easy to make lots of power, super easy, and cheap to maintain. Note that if you want it to rev higher you should consider changing the valve springs. With the stock springs, I doubt it can rev higher than 5500 rpm.
Blomppo reved his to 6k. His 605 also revs to 6k. For more you need bigger springs. He uses one from a tractor for his new engine. I met him in his holy halls
Thanks for the long term update... The hype is recent for these engines so its nice to know what we can get away with long term
Im hoping i can put a 300hp sprinter together
These things are super reliable and do a good job in a lot of setups. I swap them into nearly everything, my grandma´s wheelchair runs an OM606. It´s stock, but once it´s on boost the short wheelbase still makes it a handful, she said.
She's a fantastic driver for a woman of her age.
My E300 had the non turbo version. Fantastic engine, took awhile to get going but once it did it was great. I commuted each day and it averaged 33-35 mpg. Sold the car at 225,000 miles, still running strong.
😢you sold it
I think it's based from the m103 from the 300e Benz
225,000 miles = barely run in if the engine had regular oil changes .
The golden rules of engine longevity are regular oil changes , warm the engine up before driving, and if you have a turbo charger, then allow the engine to idle for a minute or two before turning it off . Obviously, don't thrash the nuts off it ever .
Wow 33-35 mpg on I6 engine
@@carversity1 yep, I commuted 120 miles a day. I was able to make the trip 5 times before filling up. Worst I saw was 32mpg. Keep in mind it only had 138hp and non turbo.
Having owned both OM606 and M57.
I can say OM606 far more fun to work on than M57. I havent tuned these engines only serviced. I like the m57 more because its far more easy to tune. I have chiptune on E60 530D Lci M57 and it has somewhere around 300hp/600nm and 14 seconds on a 1/4 mile. But cons of m57 are that you have to remove some emission systems to make it "reliable" its not gonna blow up if you dont but it will give headaches with egr, dpf and swirl flaps. I have done those and it is so fun to drive. I like the torque of diesels.
Ps. Very nice to see that somebody from US has recognised these EU diesels capabilities.
I’ve just got a M57 E61 525d 3.0 LCI and a huge fan of the torque delivery.
I’m heading for a remap soon and I should expect 250hp/500Nm, the transmission is weaker on 25d and the intake and exhaust valves should have a few less mm in diameter therefore I can’t expect full 30d performance.
@@runeandersen908 do you know which turbo it has. because the older E39's 525D has a weak turbo. My car started to run on oil because of it. Then i replaced it with 530D turbo from same model.
The 606 is cursed because it wants to be fully mechanical but it isn't so tuning is ancient and dumb. The m57 is in almost every way a more advanced engine than the 606 and it is also a CDI system. I would argue that the real competitor to the m57 is the om613 or om648. They are both CDI they both are mostly devoid of modern emission equipment and they both can handle tons of boost. In my opinion the 648 is a better engine because it is less restrictive when it comes to intake ports and it is all around less plasticy. (Take this with a grain of salt because I like the 211 chassis more than e60.)
@@mikkomakela1997 Hi there, sorry for late answer. I did a researche and it only appears that theres a bit difference on the valves in the cylinderhead on the intake side. Anything else should be the same. I figured aut it got the ZF6 HP19Z which max load is 400Nm.
530d's got the ZF6 HP26Z and that should be a lot stronger. Pls notice that's it is LCI I'm talking about as theres a difference on the gearboxes.
Lmao, i own an n57 lci 2014 535d xdrive in the usa. Stage 2 tuned and 8hp tuned along with awd🤭. My family owns pretty much anything diesel, we have mk6 jetta wagon tdi, 2 mk7 golf wagon tdi, 2014 audi q7 tdi, and my first car was a 2012 jetta wagon tdi stickshift. Too bad we dont get anything else no more😭.
om 605 is an honorable mention, it is the same engine with 5 cylinders
unicorn for us as it was never offered in the USA.
Gotta talk about the om605 too, the 5 cylinder variant of the same design. Imagine the 606 but with that odd cylinder count grunt. Too bad that never made it to the states.
Its crazy how they sound just because of another crankshaft and another injection order. You can hear it of you search for Blomppo
Correction:
"Toyota 2JZ: The gasoline OM606"
Surely the comparison should be to the Nissan RB3.0 engine as they share a common heritage. Seems strange comparing this engine to a Toyota when there is a much closer related Japanese engine that also shares a reputation as being a great engine
I always thought it was called the diesel 2JZ due to it's tuning potential.
they call it a diesel 2j cause its a 3.0L inline 6 dohc.
Also the 606 will always hold the crown for the best 90's diesel, but everyone seems to be working their way to it's successor the OM648. Direct injection, huge amounts of torque and low rpm's, 12v cummins power while staying around the same weight as the 606.
Blacksmokeracing went to the om648 after they could no longer compete with the om606. They even tried converting the om606 to direct injection, but gave up on it.
Yep. Its esentially 606 with 200cc extra and mappable common rail.
The om613 came before the 648 and the only difference is the injectors. Its criminal MB replaced the 648 with the cheapo 642
DPumpUK seems to be the most intuitive and experienced source on Mercedes diesels.
They are biased but yes. DPUK is a very good source for the om606 but you should check out Black Smoke Racing, Furulund Drifting and
dieselmeken
The 606 is a fickle beast because when you pump swap them they are fully mechanical.
They become inefficient because they are IDI
I swapped one into my 2003 ram 1500 and it out performed what the 1500 could handle. After it was involved in an accident it was transferred into my '95 F350 where it lives today and I have a spare at work under the work bench lol.
stop hyping these engines, the prices are going up
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been waiting for this one for a while!!! love the OM606 especially in the SDL wagon
When the OM602 in my 1993 300D spun a bearing I was considering swapping a 606 in, but I chose to just rebuild my 602 due to as you mentioned, the cost. But after running the numbers on that rebuild it probably would have been cheaper to just swap it lol.
yeah rebuilt OM603 here, and I was faced with the same dilemma, and chose to rebuild, oh well, my s124 will get an OM606 eventually
300D and om602? Isnt it 250D if it has om602
@@akuhyytiainen8921 You are right, but they re-branded in 1993 and switched the W201 250D to the 300D 2.5 turbo
@@akuhyytiainen8921 Its a US market 1993 300D Turbo. I guarentee it has the OM602.
This is one of my favorite diesel engines out there, it would be my preferred swap for a lot of things
I have the om603 in my 1987 w124. Great engine and good power.
Very reliable and good on fuel. Love reliable sound of mercedes diesel.
It’s a fantastic engine and a great engine swap option if you can find one for a good price.
I started my apprenticeship working for MB in the late 90s, I always enjoyed working on these and did so for many years in Europe.
Man I love the diesels . . . Love the video thank's for all the effort.
I just bought my turbo diesel last Thursday and I'm in love with the car
The mercedes diesels are insane. Got a buddy with a 240d with 350k miles and i have a om603 with 300k. Both still run amazing
Supposedly the first year OM606 (which we didn't get in the US) got a mechanical injection pump but they all have electronic pumps otherwise. All of the US OM606's had electronic pumps. The Mechanical pump from a OM603 is a direct bolt on and that's what people do here in the states if they are removing the engine from its original W210 chassis and putting it in something else. In the states, the turbo OM606 ONLY came in the 1998 and 1999 W210 E300TD Sedans. The N/A OM606 was in the 1996 and 1997 W210 E300D sedans. Most W210 sedans are E320's with gas V6's so the diesels are really as hard as they say they are to find. Running and driving donor cars used to be dirt cheap even 5 years ago but people have figured out what they are by now and they've tripled in value. The late 90s S class did not have a diesel option in the US and I have no idea about the G wagon.
TLDR: In the US you want the engine from a 98 or 99 E class diesel sedan and pretty much any OM603 injection pump. Send the pump out for a rebuild + bigger elements, slap a big turbo on it and that's it, have fun!
Yeah it was RS203 pump. It had steeper injection camshaft compared to OM603 pumps. I installed the n/a pump to mine turbo OM606.
I believe the non-turbo 606 had the mechanical pump while the turbo versions used the electronic "EDC" throttle. I don't know about the US, but the turbo/EDC version showed up in 96 in Canada.
@@DavidBurgess-captainindustry mechanical pump was on earliest versions of the om606. W124 had those fully mechanical pumps. W210 had electricals. And for the W124 it was only n/a OM606.
@David Burgess US only got electric controlled. It's still pretty much a P-Pump, just has computer oversight
We did get a mechanical om606 in the U.S. It came in the W124 chassis in 1995, N/A with a mechanical pump. When Mercedes switched to the W210 chassis in 1996 all w210’s had electronic pumps N/A & Turbo. Here in the U.S. you can find the N/A 606 in 95 W124 & 96 & 97 W210. You can find the turbo in 98 & 99 W210.
Owner of an OM-646 CLK-220 CDi here and also an OM-601 190-D.
My stock CLK sounds amazing on the throttle, it's very responsive and rev-happy,
Merc must have tuned the ecu for sports coupé use and probably a dual-mass flywheel.
Mercedes imo is the King of Diesel engines and I love their diesels to death.
Merc diesel ftw.
Wanted one for a couple of years now. Rich from DeBoss Garage got one from his place up in Canada and did a couple of uploads on it. Great engine!
i have a om602, they just work and they are really tuff, they never give a problem if jou just do the oil changes
My Father had back in the days a 1994 Mercedes E 300 D manual - it was so rare to get these cars with a manual Gearbox you dont even know...
It had the OM606 Engine with 136HP - it sounded with a stock exhaust under load like a Gasoline Engine.
It was such a cool car, i would love to buy that car back but sadly i dont know where it is :(
I liked the 606 better when no one in the states knew about them. Now everyone wants one and they’re double in value. 😅 made 400whp with mine with some bolt on mods.
M57 u can get 400 on stock everything, might need upgrades the intercooler but these german diesel are fun to have. om606 a nice engine to have to. These m57 came quad turbo in the x5m50d over sea. Talk about no turbo lag.
@@justinwayne61that was the aluminium n57, its worse than m57
@7privet_ yup that right. It still crazy they did that and yes the n57 is worse.
FINALLY! I haven’t even watched yet and I’m so pumped.
Worth mentioning as well is that these engines run over a Mil in km's quite easily and still keep running strong. Where most engines don't make that, or you have to swap major components
Absolutely. We put a 300hp+ tune on ours at 385k miles. It's knocking on the door of 400k.
@@Skul-Ski nice! Waiting for my project to be finished will be running 500+ but the engine is a rebuilt one just to be safe.
An from Africa Ghana l love it's
My brother bought a stripped body of a Mercedes 190 Cosworth and 3 broken OM606 engines and then proceedes to build a new, completely functional OM606 engine and putting it in the 190. It has become his pride and joy and honestly I can't blame him. Recently he's been trying to find a way to fit a Garrett on it and is aiming to get the engine up to 500hp. Everytime he comes to visit you can hear him from several kilometers away and not going to lie I'm pretty jealous both at the stunning car and at his skills 😭
A genuine 190 Cossie? Jesus.. that takes balls
It's not gonna work.....190 is to small for 606....Well, I've made it...but....even, with the stability there is problems .......
Great engine i swapped my rodbender om603 for the om606 on my w140 wow what an engine! Love it!
It's a superb motor but the next one, the OM648 CDI is the best motor. It's bigger, twin cam ,24valves, but it has a much more advanced injection system, it runs cleaner, it's more efficient, it has way more power, it's quiet, it has a variable geometry turbo, it has more power in a more realistic way, and it's know to be even lower maintenance and longer lasting. They require oil changes every 12,000 miles and they regularly get over 1,000,000 miles. It was the last inline 6 mercedes put in a car and it was the premier of the modern common rail diesel in Europe the revolutionized diesel performance. It also came in a much better car, the W210 was one of the worst chassis for the E class but it had that amazing diesel. The W211 CDI is an amazing breakthrough with it electronic wiring harness, to have a inline 6 computer controlled mercedes turbodiesel, it incredible. It drives much faster and it's an all aluminum chassis that is resistant to rust. I have one and it's really fast, it has big block torque, it's lay down, 0-60 in 6.6 second in stock form, cruising 130mph with 30mpg or more. I can get 40 mpg on renewable diesel. no smoke, no soot, reliable. It'sa better motor but the OM606 is indirect injection so it's very good on straight vegetable oil. People can get at least 400hp and 750ft/lbs of torque when they delete the EGR, and upgrade the turbo to a large billet wheel with ceramic ball bearins, enlarge the intercooler and add on the Mercedes C30 AMG injectors and E400CDI fuel pump. And it's possible to get more power and efficiency with hydrogen injection or propane injection. High power OM606 are not drivable motors with holset turbos'. The OM648 using the same Variable geometry turbo still are building boost at 1200rpm and hit full boost at 1600 and make power between 2000 to 4000. It's a smooth, pliable, realistic power. It's an amazing motor, it actually sounds a lot like a Lexus with a small inline 6 inthe 90's, it's a creme puff, it's so smooth and light the way it builds power, but it's really does have the power of a 8.2liter Cadillac V8 in 1970 with the fuel economy of a 1978 Rabbit diesel. Once you start running it on Renewable diesel there's no comparisson, a gas V8 motor you can't afford make a lot of power, with the diesel it's extremely economical and environmentally efficient and you have have as much power as you want all the time without losing much fuel economy.
We'll said, I believe that the OM648 is the holy grail of Mercedes inline 6 cylinder diesels from the bottom up.
The 648 is king. There is nothing else to say besides that it is probably my favorite diesel ever made.
W210 had the om613 which is diffrent to the om648
@rainbowwarrior2635 Most of what you say is true but not the part about the aluminium chassis on the w211, it does have aluminium subframes front and rear but the body is steel and far from rustproof particularly in the UK. I have had most of the Merc diesels since 1986 including w201 190D which was gutless, w201 190D 2.5 very nice car but in UK spec no turbo due to steering box on right hand drive cars occupying space where turbo sits in left hand drive vehicles,
w124 300D very nice car but again lacking Turbo for same reason, w210 Turbo diesel fantastic car let down by rust, I currently have a rust free w220 CDI which is a lovely economical luxury car and w211 CDI v6 which i am dealing with the rust on the underside of and the wheel arches, if only Mercedes had painted and protected these cars properly they would be great, but they clearly don't want them to last, I have a relative who has just had to have the steel rear subframe replaced due to rusting right through and dangerously affecting handling and wheel alignment on a w212.
I love this been waiting for this vid
I own 1991 w124 with om606 N/A swap, love the car, engine in the car is just perfect
Swapped one into my Land Cruiser and gave her 4500 rpm for hours on end trying to get out of a snow storm and she never never skipped a beat. Saw 1600 on the egt gauge and it’s still running good two winters later!
ya need less fuel, or more boost if you're seeing that high of EGTs
Why did she see 4500rpms for hours straight in a storm?
Got stuck on the leading edge of a snow storm that dumped 5 feet in 24 hours in Wyoming, so I had to get out. My only other options would have been to hire a snow cat to get me out or leave the truck over winter out there.
I have 5 of them legendary engines. They are after getting scarce here in Ireland within the last 2 years. I was lucky in that I gathered them just as they were getting scarce
Do one on the BMW 335D M57 motor! I know probably not as saught after but those turbos really give some 6.0 powerstroke whistle vibes 😆
I mean this is the only oversquared diesel engine I know, adding the DOHC, that's what makes it sound like petrol engines. It revs high because of that and it's a really nice package. I wish Mercedes would have kept it in production for more years or even create some production line for it and other iconic engines made by them so you can purchase new OEM parts right now.
First used a OM606 because it was the cheapest way to get 500 bhp period. Back then I could get a solid engine for 150-200$ , large element pump for 1200$ and a brand new HX40 for 500$... Fabricate the rest. Just a stock 3-400 gas engine would've been over 3000$, as for tuned gas engines, to get +500 bhp would've meant at least 1500$ in ECU and tuning, not to mention the core engine cost, supporting mods etc. Nowadays 606s have gotten rarer, more expensive and standalone ecus have gotten cheaper
You should do video about Volkswagen 1.9 TDI. I think it is the best diesel engine ever made.
it is difficult to understand how you did a video on this engine without DieselPumpUK. Those dudes make insane power with these, the coolest diesel swaps, and they manufacture brandnew parts, including pumps. I suggest a follow-up
Hi from the uk
Most definitely the best passenger car diesel ever and without electronics however being a truck nut and biker as for best sounding I get confused I love the screaming detriot diesel 6 8 & 12 v 71s and love the sound of the rolls royce eagle engines labouring a great slogging diesel knock but unfortunately no bloody power
Keep up the good work
I have a C250 Turbodiesel from 97 with the OM605, basicly the same just as a 5 cylinder. There was also the OM604 wich is the 4 cylinder version. And i love that thing, sounds good and drives good. And stock they already have pretty high boost pressure, the 606 i think has 1.9 bar. Mine prob a bit less, but you hear the turbina so clearly. And even the automatic transmission can hold a lot of power.
The Automatic holds much more power. Everybody who wants power on a manual mercedes has to swap to a ZF trans. Watch it at Blomppo
Excellent video.
The scania 16.4 liter is beautiful when it comes to the sound you can call it work damage
Great video. Gave it a thumbs up even though I secretly wanted to do the opposite in order to keep this information on the "down-low". I recently gave my son my 99 E300TD. It's the same one that he rode to the hospital in his mother belly in on his birthday in 2005. He has been driving it for a little over a year now. So, we rebuilt the entire suspension and put a stage 2 tune and an HX35 turbski on it. Have the boost set low for now at 17psi (more than enough for a 17 year old driver). It is just shy of 400k miles. I want to get a spare motor to stash away, but as others mention, they are getting so expensive because people are figuring out what a great motor they are. Sooooo Shhhhhhhhhhh🤫
WAW, I hope to live the same adventure with my father, that's really cool man. (I'm a Frenchy 17 yo too so I hope you understand that I'm impressed by what you've done with your son). I hope you will keep this 300TD for years !
Love the BleepinJeep shirt!
Can’t wait to have a 606 in my Comanche
Glad someone recognized it!
I have a 2003 c class with the 2.2 Liter 4 Zylinder. Its an absolut mileeater and Power too .
I’v been pushing 3 bar from an hx40 and modified injection pump on my daily driven all factory internal n/a and hasn’t failed yet. Wouldn’t recommend it as these engine are getting expensive now. But don’t always believe everything on the internet...
Btw I would love get my hands on an m57, no favourites in my camp 😊
Definitely the best 3.0 diesel engine ever made 🔥🫡
The best or nothing 🔝
There all about diesels in Europe from when I was a young man being stationed there in the mid to late 1980’s to today when I go back to the Azores to visit my wife’s family.
The Toyota Hilux is huge in the off road scene over there. I couldn’t imagine trying to drive my Ram 3500 6.7 diesel over there!
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so much underrated engine .... can you talk about the models of uz engine in term of displacement and tuning capabilities... so much love from iraq
DieselPumpUK 😃
Om606 turbo vs m57 will be so great video
both are 3L i6 iron block aluminum head dohc holds alot of power and revs to the moon, I also have a container full of them ready to ship over from europe if anyone is looking for one.
Whats the price? looking for something around $3,000 for sub 200,000 miles
@@leckercidre160 3000-3500 would be realistic
You forgot about Japanese diesels. Big in Australia. Our Nissan Patrols and Toyota Landcruisers with 4.2 litre diesels can get an easy 200 - 250hp and 700nm of torque… and many many examples have close to 1 million km’s, 700,000 miles with even being opened, ever!
Sounded like a smaller version of a fast turning diesel super stock pulling tractor engine. Those things turn lots faster than their ag stock siblings.
Nice video!
Regarding the talk about camshafts, I think the NA shafts have a little more lift and are preferred
I had this engine in a 1999 E300. I loved that engine, but the W210 is a chassis of issues as it is during the engine of the Mercedes brand that I knew and loved. I have a Tahoe with the 5.3L V8. I think the M606 would be a perfect match for my Tahoe.
I have om603 in my w201. Stock internals and pushing 400hp.
Holset hx40 and 7mm dieselpump
nice to be able to fit a mechanical injection pump to the om 606.
The Ecodiesel reigns supreme
Black smoke racing team is the specialists for om engines, they got one of the best drift cars in whole europe
no doubts that old W123 is a legendary drift car, but, DieselPumpUK is the magician of those super turboed diesel engines, have a look into his channel (or even shop ^^,) www.youtube.com/@DieselPumpUK/videos
I think they actually use OM648 in their racer
@@ulle500 Yes, nowdays they do, but w123 used to have om606
What year do I need to look for with the Mechanical Pump and Turbo
Thanks for thr great information. What suggestions do you have for none electronic auto transmission to use with beefed up om606?
I plan to use the 606 in my 1985 g280 wagon.
Thanks
Hi, Im looking at a 1994 Gwagon that has 173000km, the body looks great, no rust, question: 173000 km is that a lot of km for this engine and if not, what should I look for when I see it, yes Im planning to have it inspected, loved your video, straight forward, just as I like it
Few things to add. Nothing to correct.
The USM only got the turbo variant in the e300td in 98-99.
This engine is idi so It behaves much more like a petrol engine than a diesel.
While they do make more torque than hp its nothing like a common raid. Maybe 50-60 more ft-lbs than hp.
The major draw is its ability to drive a mech pump or an electric pump. With a mech pump from a om603, rebuilt with bigger elements, you can fire and run the engine like a carby petrol.
This allows you to dump it in any chassis you can fit it in.
Great! Thanks
Nice! I want one to swap into a defender! Do the td5 please!!!
changing the glow plugs and those clear plastic fuel filter return lines huge pain in the ass... but last of the IDI
I'm surprised there was no mention of Team Boosted's OM606 Datsun in this video
I've been wanting an OM606 for a long time But as a disabled vet I think it's out of financially feasible status
I don't know if I agree, but it does seem that the diesel car is starting to get popular here, especially with the European diesel engines.
As a tech, I've personally talked to a lot of people who are into diesels like myself, especially the OM606 engines because of how much it can take.
look at the 648. The 606 is easy to mod but it can't make the kind of high revving power the om648 can.
@@henryfeige8596
Nice to know. What can you tell me about it?
@@bryancenterfitt7127 The 606 is IDI which means it can't atomize a lage amount of fuel reliably even with a good pump and injectors. the 648 on the other hand is common rail so the pressure is around 10x more which allows for better combustion and less smoke as well. Also the 648 featured a beefier construction. The only downside of the 648 is the fact that it is electronic instead of mechanical.
@Henry Feige
Most vehicles that went from IDI to DI ditched the mechanical fuel system because it couldn't keep up with the demands that a DI system has.
I certainly didn't know the 606 was a IDI though. I was under the impression that it was something similar to a 12V Cummins, a DI with a mechanical fuel system. But admittedly I don't know as much about the 606 like I do say, Ford/international, GM or dodge.
@@bryancenterfitt7127 The 648 has a pump upgrade where you take the bigger pump from the v8 om629 from europe. Also race teams run double electric pumps with adaptors.
Hi Mate coming from Australia you should make a video on the Toyota’s straight 6 turbo diesel engine called the 1HD-FTE , which is basically the diesel version on the 2JZ
1HDFTE is far from a diesel 2JZ. The only way they'd even be considered a diesel 2JZ is because it's made by Toyota.🤣
I had a '95 E300d W/606. At about 240k miles the oil pump disintegrated while cruising down the freeway. Broken oil pump shaft. Catastrophic engine failure. Never did figure out why it let go. Rare failure.
Now can you make a video on the lci n57s? I guess more specific US models. But lci are all pretty much same for Europe and USA as far as im aware.
I have one for sale for 3000 obo. Its a 95 E300D, it has the NA OM606.910 and Bosch mechanical diesel pump. The body itself is rusting in various spots, i need to spray a quick squirt of starting fluid to get the car started but once its running its running. Located in Middle Tennessee.
So to add/ correct some thing as an Owner operator of these cars mainly 190D and 124D theres a few misconceptions.
First OM603 vs OM606 and OM602 vs OM605(I like the 5 Cylinders more they make a better sound and Are overall Just a 5 cylinder of the same Engine.
Later some of them will chance displacement by boring But we are talking about these 2 Gens.
Also in some European countries theres a Luxury tax on Passenger cars displacement so 2.5L is class 1 Luxury and 3L is the Next one. The Tax can reach 6x the regular registration for that car. For class one it would stay around 2x regular. For above 3000cc class 3 it can go over 10x.
Yes ALL the Diesel Engines in this Gen use the SAME parts.
OM601/604 2L 4 cylinder 500cc x4 =2000cc
OM602/605 5x500cc=2500cc
OM 603/606 6x 500cc=3000cc
When you buy Part's you just buy the Number of Parts Other than the Crank ,Cam, and Oil pump. Even those Only Differ in Turbo vs NA.
And of course based on is it a 4v head or 2v head.
But all parts will work in all Engines, as well as the Numbers match for 1 piece parts like Crank and Cam...
So No 1 Misconception is 4 valve Engines and 2 valve Engines are different.
Other than the Head FALSE.
Minor changes to Pistons and tiny to Injectors. And some oil nozzle change. That is ALL.
The Engine is the same.
4 valve Engines Can't even Beat 8 valves in Mileage. 8 valves have better lower end But Do not reach Peak numbers so Tuners don't like them, But OM602 and OM 603 are better Driver's engines. You can tune them and STILL have a great daily driver.
I drove a 190D 2.5 Turbo with 390Hp and 450 Nm. It comes with 126Hp and 231Nm
Later swapped a OM605 and It had better Top end But Crap Low end driveability tuned.
Also OM602/603 do NOT come with Intercoolers that's also why the Power difference is large from the factory. 4v didnt gain much just the Top end and In regular use You don't even use it.
Revving up a stock Diesel in daily driving will make people Laugh at you not With you. That said Turbos do sound very sweet from the factory.
No2. There is NOT a SINGLE benefit to the Electric pump.
And since it's the same Engine. The Mechanical Pump Just Bolts on. So You can Use it on the comparable Engine. The Only Problem is ECU will be connected to Automatic Gearbox in some cars and it will give you shit if You try to Put it in a car that doesn't have the gearbox or it will cause Gearbox issues If you ditch the electric Pump.
Main reason for the Mechanical Pump is Price and reliability. Unlike Gasoline engines. Diesels generally Have 1 component that does All the work. The Fuel Injection system.
And since again its a superior system Only a few parts need to be changed. That said the need very precise machining and have very high pressures. But The swap is really easy.
What you forgot to say is Tuning a OM engine will cost you around $1500-$2000 to reach 500HP. That's the price of Pump Parts you need. That's all. Intercooler and Turbo are not included here, since you buy those for your Gas car too. It's the same expense.
You are not even changing Much in The Injection Pump, Just the Pump elements, which are parts of steel that have cut grooves in them to give a specific opening for fuel to pass, these rotate as you press the gas pedal and Open more to let more fuel flow through. That all. These grooves have to be carefully designed and tune, so the car has proper fueling, but it's just a piece of steel. That's why it's cheap. You can Even use your own Pump and Just swap the elements and service the pump. You will safe a lot of money.
So heavily tuned (wink wink, because you only Tune the Pump and add Boost) OM 606 can Go around 500-550HP and 750-800Nm of Torque.
OM 605 will do 400-450Hp and around 650Nm of torque.
That means your Biggest Expense is Finding a Gearbox and Diff that will not explode when you step on it.
One thing I failed to mention is These are what Mercedes calls Indirect injection Diesels.
Its still technically direct injection into the Combustion space not before the Valves, but In the Engine head there's a cavity(prechamber), between the valves, which creates a superheated chamber (open to the Cylinder through a smaller hole) and propagates the explosion faster. So these engines came Unloaded from the factory and are Lazy and sluggish. But they are capable of being snappy and partially this feature is responsible. It also is the reason for the Beautiful ticking sound these Merc's have on Idle.
And for the end it is the best platform.
VW Cultists will try and push the TDI but they can dream on...
What do you think about the om612? Was also in the wj grand Cherokee.
Reaching 1 lb per HP is a good achievement for diesel.
the om 648 is amazing, very tunable (euro companies) and super eco (personal best of 51 mpg at 70 mph) around 32-37 in town if I'm careful. Mercedes should go back to the straight 6. I have a 2005 e320 with 250K miles.
The new 6 cylinder diesels of Mercedes are 2.9 liters straight 6 actually.
@@martinb6072 I did not know that. time to research.
@@martinb6072 You mean the 648? I have worked on them for years and I never knew. But hey, does it really matter? They are great engines.
It is THE BEST S P O R T diesel engine ever! More than that, VERY CHEAP to get 500+ hp RELIABLE (only from scrapyard parts).
Only those which never driven one don't know what is about. This diesel pulls as a gasoline engine, not as a truck diesel as 99% of modern and old diesels.
I will get one soon. With or without shell.
I have a briliant project in mind.. :D. If i will be able to buy all the parts needed, a new youtube channel will be started for that project.
Good luck
I use an N/A OM603.912 in my W124 with 7.5mm Dieselmeken elements and an HX35 turbo for several years now, and the engine is reliable. It's not entirely true that N/A engines are so weak; they can withstand around 2 bar of boost with reasonable driving.
Planning on doing the same with my 1987 td turbo 3l om603. Can the trans/torque converter handle the power without upgrades?
The automatic transmission can handle these adjustments if it is in good condition, it may slip a bit. The 5 speed manual gearbox is not very strong, above 200hp it is possible that it will break. I'm using a 6q cdi manual transmission from a w203/w210.
I want one so bad!
lets not forget that the om606 also has a petrol variant , the m104. Which in its own right is another 2jz esque engine .
M104 with a single turbo is a monster and I’m pretty sure uses the same crank and block as the om606..
No the block is not the same but the crank is interchangeable. With a 3.5td s class crank you can push om 606,103 and 104s to 3.4-3.7l
I didn't expect it to actually sound like a 2jz
hi u mind letting us know how to tune/operate the mechanical pump so it links with a bigger turbo..we need another video of this engine
There’s other small things that a different between turbo and non turbo valve springs is a good example
Hey, I thought about replacing my main engines in my boat with two of these. It now has two 318 Chrysler gas engines. At 230 HP, each, maybe a turbo models would be good.
sounds like a very good engine. what model cars did these engine come witth in the USA?
E300td 98-99 are the only turbo models in the US. But 96-97 are non-turbo and are capable of being built up
Could you do a video on the Mercedes om617?
I own one. 1982 300sd om617. Installed a hood stack, alda/egr delete, valve adjustment. Sounds like a cummins tractor whistling down the road but with a super smooth ride. Made me fall in love with old mercedes diesels. Highly recommend it if you are considering buying one. Paid $1100 for mine.
@@eternalbeing3339 i have that same year lol. Bone stock, but planning to rebuild and swap it into something with 4x4
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It is very TRUE the OM 606 diesel engine is the best Germany made diesel engine is quite reliable.