Then Die In Ignorance
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2021
- Star Trek The Next Generation s02e20 The Emissary
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Klingon 1: "We've been asleep for 75 years."
Klingon 2: "We should contact the Klingon empire
Klingon 1: "NO!, let's go pick a fight with starfleet who surly hasn't improved technologically in the past 75 years."
In fairness, that would probably be an appeal for the Klingons
It would be glorious. Worthy of at least a poem
@@dperry19661 Yeah, I'm not sure how glorious it would be to be blown up in 2 seconds without even striking a single effective blow to their enemies because they're so outclassed.
This is gold lol
@@datfisheboi6519 It is not brave and glorious to defeat those weaker, but stronger.
Or, in modern English "The absolute BALLS"
"Overtake, warp 8. Now put us right in their path, come to a full stop."
So basically Picard just brake checked the klingons? Smh Galaxy Class drivers -.-
Thankfully sounds do not spread in the void of space, but I can imagine the honking and cursing coming from the Klingon ship.
And Picard, suppsedly an experience starship captain, placed full confidence that the Klingon ship would hit the brakes in such a way as to not murder the entire crew of both ships by using a sudden brake or by smashing into the Enterprise.
Very bad writing
@@perturabo420 They honk by phaser. The loudest honker wins.
He knows Klingons. There is bad writing, but it's not Picard, it's Klingon culture.
Shockingly it almost redeems the Duras family and Gowron, cos at least they also knew how to play basic Klingon stupidity ^^
@@zadkiel242 You do know how much faster the Enterprise is to their outdated ship? Klingons would've detected them and came to near-stop comfortably before they even got within probably thousands of kilometers of them. Overtaking a Warp 5 ship at Warp 8 would be like teleporting hundreds of light years ahead, more than enough time for them to locate and stop.
*Later, in the Empire*
"We were informed by Captain Worf, commanding The Enterprise th-"
"Excuse me Commander _who of the what?"_
"Eh, make a note of it. I doubt this Worf will pose us any problems in the future."
@@stephenkenney8290 *proves to be a very VERY big problem in the future.*
@@svengal97 Oh, does it ever.
Nope. the Klingon Empire sent The Emissary to get them to stand down or be destyroyed. The commander of the Prang will make sure all goes well when they arrive.
Gowron: WARFFF AHAHAH
I love how Worf answered most of the questions with "Try me bitch"
#GreatestFlexesInSciFi
Isn't that standard Klingon? 🤔
He also gives just enough true answers, (the war IS over because they made peace, Worf IS in command of the Enterprise because he's a senior officer and was given command for the shift, and he has a half human-Klingon on the bridge with him) to make the captain assume the Empire had conquered the Federation without actually lying to him.
Pretty sure thats how you order a sandwich in the empire.
@@BOYVIRGO666 specialy if the gagh in it doesn't look lively and squirmy enough
"They're doing warp 5, hundreds of times the speed of light."
"Put us in their path, then stop and hold position, and let's hope their brakes still work."
Good to know that brake checking is still a thing in the 24th century.
In the TNG era, Warp 5 is about 213.75 times the speed of light. Warp 8 is 1024 times the speed of light, almost five times faster than Warp 5.
It's kind of like Ludicrous Speed compared to lightspeed (minus going to plaid). The Enterprise overshot the T'Ong by such a large distance, the T'Ong had plenty of time to slow down before they collided.
Why do they have navigation lights on these ships? So you can see what's coming 4 days after it hit you? And when firing the forward phasers at warp speed, why don't they just drill tunnels straight back through the saucer? Like a plane firing guns at supersonic speed and shooting itself down (which has happened).
@@mikearmstrong8483 my assumption would be that since they're in the vacuum of space, the torpedoes follow the ship's forward momentum without being slowed by gravity and air resistance.
@@MisterYankou
Uhhhhh.........phasers are not torpedoes; they are energy beams that travel at the speed of light, which we know because they were already invented for real back in the 70s, after lasers and masers.
And torpedoes would not travel at warp speed through momentum, because they are fired ahead of the ship and exit the ship's warp field. At which point, lacking a means of generating warp fields of their own, they are now traveling at the same sublight velocity that the ship is actually moving within the area of spacial compression and stretching that comprises the warp field and allows the ship to travel at superluminal velocities without actually going faster than light and violating relativity. So the ship instantly runs into them.
This isn't Trek Speak; this is actual basic physics I'm referring to.
You have to give credit to K'Temac as a Klingon commander. Even faced with an enemy he knows totally outmatches him, he stands his ground and calls Worf's bluff to the last second, then recognizes he has been beat and yields. He shows bravery, intelligence and wisdom. Hopefully he made a good addition to the Klingon military.
We can all hope that he brought honor to the empire against the Dominion
Also he ultimately was right to be suspicious, since it was technically a trick. Just not in the way he expected.
When K'Temac yelled "wait!" he would have realized it was a trick because there is no way in hell the crew would have disobeyed their captain and NOT fired, unless ordered not to, thus giving him an opportunity to attack/die honorably in combat. =P
I like the symbolism in the name K'Temac. If I'm not mistaken it's a nod to Chautemoc, the last Aztec emperor.
K’Temac sounds like a cowboy with that twang in his voice, lol.
2:34-
"Drop your shields..IMMEDIATELY!"
"And if I refuse?"
(Pause)
"..then die in ignorance."
That's some cold, true s**t right there.
What I tell anti-vaxxers.
this needs to be a meme
@@aggressiveattitudeera887 Hey! This is a Star Trek video! Please don't be unscientific or imprecise here.
Chances of anti-vaxxers dying in ignorance due to covid-19 are slim, even if they have preexisting conditions like high blood pressure or diabetes.
If anything, your post here shows your ignorance. Most of them will be just fine, a certain amount of them will have to live with long covid, and a few percent of them will die of it.
As we now know, at least the getting it and the dying of it is true for the vaccinated as well, just in smaller numbers. So stop thinking yourself superior while being this goddamn uneducated.
@@RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse He wasn't being imprecise or unscientific. All humans die, and if you die an anti-vaxxer you will die in a certain amount of ignorance. Next time, don't try and be pedantic when you seem to be quite bad at it.
@@xandercorp6175 Right back atcha... because in this case, either these people have up to decades to learn the truth and not die in ignorance OR they really get covid full force and learn first hand the folly of their ways.
Certainly, some of them will stick to their guns 'till the end but I'm pretty sure it's a minority... even atheists often start praying when the plane goes down after all.
First and foremost the imprecision that irks me the most is this assumption of " You don't play by the rules, you get covid and die" that was implied here. Which is bullshit. It's basically the other side of the idiot coin. Rabid pro-vaxxers are just as stupid as anti-vaxxers.
"Trust your eyes! Or is your brain still stuck in its long slumber?"
That's how to talk to a Klingon.
It’s also kind of funny.
Worf took an unnecessary risk. Personally, I'd send K'Temoc a copy of the Khitomer Accords and put him in contact with the Klingon High Command so he can verify the document is legit. If that wasn't enough to convince him, then I'd play hardball to force his hand.
@@MisterMarin You must be a paper pusher. In a military and historical context there is a non-zero chance that the Klingons will not accept it and die fighting. Getting them to cede command was the most effective way.
When Worf said "comfortable chair," that was his way of not saying he found command to his liking. He'd enjoyed the feeling of it and was proud of himself for finding a solution to avoid fragging the t'Ong. But it would be immodest and imprudent to say so, so instead of compliments the chair.
Riker definitely picked up on it.
@WhyAmIWearing ARedShirt Or saying that command is for sedentary softies, not tactical tough guys like him who are fine standing for entire shifts
that or he is tired of always standing up
When hagamapama said, ""When Worf said "comfortable chair," that was his way of not saying he found command to his liking. He'd enjoyed the feeling of it and was proud of himself for finding a solution to avoid fragging the t'Ong. But it would be immodest and imprudent to say so, so instead of compliments the chair.
Riker definitely picked up on it.," that was his way of not contributing to global Trekker discourse, but rather an attempt to draw attention to themselves.
I definitely picked up on it.
Actually considering his penchant for klingon beliefs....klingons hate comfort, so to say the chair was comfortable means it was not to his liking.
It's a classic Worf neologism. My favorite is, "Nice house, good tea".
I love that thing Worf does with his voice. Usually a one-liner but my favorite was when Q asked what he had to do to convince them that he was really human and Worf simply said 'die...'
Best Worf one-liner.
No love !ost between those two...
ANd Riker/Frakes and even Stewart only half-acting and smiling :D
My favorite Worf-ism
I always wondered if that line was off-script or not.
Funny thing is: Worf did not lie with one word.
He said "commanding the Enterprise", not captain or commander. Only the Klingon called him captain.
Attacking the Federation with the Kithomer accords in effect would indeed have been treason. Plus the Enterprise had a Embassador at on board.
They had already resolved to destroy the ship, if nessesary. So Worf was not bluffing that he would have opened fire.
"Did it not occur to you that the war would be over by now!?" He never said that it was a pure Klingon victory, just that it was over.
By right, anyone commanding a ship is called captain- this is a Naval tradition.
@@mattz1230 My buddy was in the US Navy. If I recall correctly, the tradition is so enduring that a Captain boarding a ship they don't command gets a temporary promotion. There is only one Captain onboard. I thought that was pretty cool.
@@darkwater234 It could be. I never served on a Navy ship.
It could also be a rumor from Robert Heinlein as well.
@@darkwater234 When I served on the USS John F Kennedy CV 67 we had 5 people with the rank of Captain but only one "Captain". I never heard a temporary promotion, they will be referred to as Captain of the ship they command whatever their rank is, such as a Ensign or enlisted Chief commanding a tugboat both would be called Captain. In the Navy Captain is a O-8, Ensign 0-1, Chief E-7 pay grade scale.
The funny thing is, it WAS a Federation trick! But for their own good.
Was it trick? Worf was commanding the ship, the war was over. So he didn't really lie.
@@Joeybsmooth Nothing Worf said was a lie, but the whole thing was what you might call a gestalt lie. A lie containing truth that only gives rise to a lie by encouraging people to jump to the wrong conclusons
Their own good was to die gloriously in battle. Now they get to live with the shame that they let themselves be deceived.
@@Joeybsmooth You could say it was a lie by omission. He technically did not lie, but he did allow a false interpretation of his station.
@@rnash999 I don't know how glorious that battle would have been. Their antique was so woefully outmatched by the Enterprise that if there was an actual battle it would've been like swatting a fly.
How many times have you ever wished to yell "YOU FOOL!" with that conviction to a supervisor or colleague.
too many Times 😅
I do it all the time. Sometimes followed with "YOU'VE DOOMED US ALL!" if they have made a particularly stupid decision.
The problem is that when I've wished to, I've usually done so.
...Aaaaaaand that's when I got fired.
I prefer to do it like Gilbert Gottfried.
I have chronic lack of patience with fools in general, so my communications can border on that sometimes.
Worf's evolution from early TNG, to commanding the Defiant in a crucial mission to Earth in DS9 is one of the great character development arcs in modern era Trek.
Background character, to main character. With complete character arch’s. A great character.
POTENT Worf lol
Apparently he is now the captain of the enterprise in the show Picard.
My favorite character. Some of the best episodes (IMO) of TNG and DS9 were Worf-focused.
@@Wese28 I wouldn't say he was a background Character on TNG. Miles O'brian was however that was fully developed in DS9. Worf did benefit greatly from DS9 however. He was a main character in TNG, just TNG was in episodic format so they didn't bother to develop much character for anyone really. Great show, but yeah.
"And you wore it well".......Klingon for "I am SOOO turned on right now....."
How does he wear a chair?? LOL j/k
If she was still alive at the end of DS9, she might have made him wear the chancellor's cloak after he killed Gowron.
I can imagine it was a Klingon lady boner right there.
@@qbeam
He wore command well, as command suited him, ie the chair is symbolic of command, as Kirk always incinerated, 😆🤣 insinuated.
Fuck but klingon women do set world records for sexy
I love Riker's little smile after 'Comfortable chair' - Riker, at this point, I think, knows that Worf will, one day, make a damn fine captain.
Lol he skipped all of that and went to federation ambassador to the Klingon empire. Worf doesn’t play around.
@@hummerskickass Then decided 'bugger this I want to skipper the Defiant"
The smile was probably also easy acting for Frakes with his back problem. 😄
But what did he do to the Enterprise E?
@@hummerskickass 1:57
Good Tea.
Nice House.
Comfortable Chair.
-Worf
"Tough little ship."
Little?
The final line should be:
- Worf, Not a Merry Man
😂
Worf, a man of few words.
@@JM.TheComposer lolll
Laconic wit
A rare exampe of the Star Trek depicting Warf as being competent. Also the best part of his trick was he never actually lied about anything. The war really was over, and he really was in command of the Enterprise (Since Picard had assigned him to command it)
"And you wore it well."
Kehleyr backing her man. We should all be so lucky boys.
Worf's look was like "not in front of the h-u-m-a-n-s".
She ain't no toxic RadFem. Go girl.
@@cyborgbadger1015 Yeah, look what it got her. A guy who couldn't save her and then just dumped their kid off on Earth to see him once or twice in his life before he signed himself up to the Klingon military. Anti-feminist men at their best, ladies and gentlemen. Lol. Consistently useless fathers and husbands.
@@knightartorias1825 Right?? Like, uhhh....she's a working mom who doesn't take any crap and stands up for herself. She's the epitome of a feminist 😂 ....But yeah, F Duras.
@@WobblesandBean You clearly know what's up. Lol.
"Computer, play Star Trek, episode: Emissary."
Computer: "Specify series."
"What the f- oh, right."
"Star Trek: The Nerd Generation"
How many of the Star Trek shows had a episode with this title?
Suzie Plakston was having WAY too much fun playing KEhleyr in this episode.
@WhyAmIWearing ARedShirt Agreed, she would have made a interesting returning character, either as a occasional visitor to throw Worf in a loop. Or as a permanent addition to the Enterprise crew, really changing the dynamic.
I have a feeling that B'lanna was a attempt to bring her back.
"Here's my new D&D Character that's just like my old one that got killed, except the name is spelt differently".
It must have been weird for her playing the female Q next to Roxanne Dawson… "I used to play a character just like yours".
@WhyAmIWearing ARedShirt Not sure about that, it made Star Trek fans really, really hate the Duras clan, like we were seeking the complete end of their house and their line.
@WhyAmIWearing ARedShirt Yeah, but that was kind of an abstract honor thing. But we got to see how despicable the Duras could be after Duras murdered Kehleyr and his sisters conspired with Romulans.
Amazing in all her trek roles
And she was also having fun playing the female Q. I love her.
"Overtake, warp 8 and then full stop"
They're basically brake checking the klingons.
"Very well, fire all phasers."
"BWAIIIIIIT!!!"
Lol always loved that part.
That just showed how bad the guy on the weaponstation was. First he had more than enough time to fire the weapons before the Klingon captain spoke and then he even never executed the command! The scene would have been so much more fun, if he had instantly fired the phasers and destroyed the ship.
Worf staring in disbelief: "WHY DID YOU BLOW UP HE SHIP?!!"
"Because you told me to sir..."
:p
@@Daniel-rd6st I definitely think that would have given away the ruse.. Worf should have signaled for him to belay the order or some such so the Klingons would know why they weren't space dust
@@Daniel-rd6st Let's please bear in mind this whole thing was a trick to try to scare the Klingons into submission, right? Do you really think the guy at the weapons console was SUPPOSED to insta fire on that order? Noooooo, come on. Everyone was in on the plan. This would be no different if Kirk had winked at the guy and then casually said "Fire all weapons". They were supposed to scare them, not kill them. They had all discussed what to do before actually doing it.
@@michaeledmunds7266 I thought the same thing! He didn't give the order to ceasefire... prepare for bluff call.
@@NightRunner417 If you pay attention when Worf turns to face the screen, the tactical officer is at Parade rest, his hands no where near the console.
Does anyone else find it funny that, after commenting on the chair being comfortable, Worf gets his first command in the Defiant - a ship notorious for having what may well be the least comfortable captain's chair (and everything else) in Starfleet?
Klingons value firepower over chairpower
I love that you can see Picard's influence on the way Worf speaks and carries himself when he's in command, very good acting
Picard's "congratulations, fine first command" shows how he values others and wants to support their growth and takes pride in training them. Other leaders may feel intimidated or envious of a good performance.
I'm most ceryainly NOT a Starfleet captain, but I _do_ train / teach others. I can confirm, there are two kind of trainers: those afraid that their pupils could someday best them, and those afraid their pupils could _not_ someday best them. I guess that is ONE thing I share with Picard (other than my age)
That's always been Picard's MO when it comes to command. Thing is, Worf isn't even the lowest ranking officer he leaves in command of the Enterprise. And what's more, Picard tells this junior officer that he would not be relieved of command until he received his ship in the same condition that it was given.
Suzie Plakson should have been on the show longer as K'Ehleyr. I liked her in other roles but her and Worf were a total power couple and would liked to have seen them play off each other more often. They just were badass together.
And it doesn't hurt that she looks damn good in those Klingon tights.... and that red body suit in the scene before this.
Totally agree
K’Ehleyr looked seriously into Worf after all that then he just walked off 😐 shows their relationship was still very much a frosty one up until her death at the hands of that corrupt Klingon commander Duras I think it was
Ha! Diedrich Bader as the tactical ensign. Almost didn't recognize him.
You know what I'd do with a million bars of gold pressed latinum, man?
2 chick at the same time man!!!
You think anyone wants a photon torpedo to the face while he's wearing these bad boys?
Could RexKwonDo beat a Klingon?
Batman in Star fleet
"...And you wore it well..."
Worf: "Don't play with me girl, I'll have you laid out" lolololololol
She liked Worf, I think.
@@hamtramckchroniclesUnfortunately for Worf, she didn't like him enough to give him anything more than a one night stand, some awkward moments, and a son who was woefully unprepared for just about anything and everything.
I like how Worf's threat isn't actually just killing them, it's having them go out like punks.
Basically making it so that if they fight and die, they'll at least believe that it wasn't for honourable reasons. They wouldn't be afraid of dying in glorious battle, but Worf was able to convince them that wouldn't be the case if they fought the Enterprise.
One of my favorite parts of this was how easily Worf played the part of a post-war Klingon commander. Worf's exactly as diplomatic as they might think as klingons that have been in stasis for almost a century...and then when pushed, Worf is very clearly willing to kill them.
I wonder of the captain's subdued proclamation of 'Long live the Klingon Empire' is indicative that he knows the war is over and that Worf is deceiving him...but that isn't the same as this being a Federation trick. Instead, the simple fact that the Enterprise seemed fully willing to follow Worf's orders was enough. There wasn't some Federation randy that jumped out when they said the Enterprise wouldn't dare fire on them. Either the Klingon Empire still existed in an admirable state, or the Federation had been bent enough to be acceptable to them.
I love this interpretation
Worf missed two points to bolster his argument…
That the Enterprise was so superior it detected them when cloaked and then flew straight past them at speeds higher than any ship of the 23rd century. Plus that the Klingons fire hadn't damaged their shields.
_They outclassed them totally._
He could have even had just one phaser bank take a big chunk out of their shields with a single shot, just to prove they had no chance.
And second point, that Worf knew the Klingon captain's name, and where to find his ship. It proved that the Klingon Empire had given them the information, or at least that they complete access to details of the secret mission… [and what idiot came up with that secret mission? Wait a century and then attack in a by then obsolete ship].
"and what idiot came up with that secret mission? Wait a century and then attack in a by then obsolete ship"
Pretty sure that, at the time, the Klingon Empire assumed that they would still be at war with the Federation. After all, the Klingons are an inherently war-like race who's very culture is based around honor in combat, a peace treaty would be rather unprecedented for them. Additionally, at the time Klingons didn't exactly hold scientists and engineers in high regards, which meant that their own technology would be relatively stagnant at the time. They probably wouldn't have considered the Federation's technological progress to be a factor.
It looked like the thing that kept the captain of the t'Ong taliing as long as they did was the fact that they knew they didn't have all the facts and they may be considered traitors to the Empire if they continued on their current course.
"We could easilly destroy you" would just have antagonized the Klingons and increased their resolve to fight and perhaps die 'Honourably' against a superiour foe.
Just my take but I think Worf played it perfectly by not highlighting the fact that it would have been no contest.
I think knocking a hole in their shields with a flick of their pinky finger does seem like it would be a shortcut - but perhaps they were thinking that it's easier to talk them down _before_ a combat begins than during the combat. E.g. it might become a formal challenge or some kind of honour/disgrace thing.
As others have commented, this way worked out the best overall. No unnecessary battles, the Klingons kept their honor, Work got to sit in the comfortable chair... ☺
Once you fire on another ship, the results will be either the destruction or surrender of one combatant. The Klingons made no threats to destroy tbe Enterprise, they saw their attack did nothing, they saw themselves outraced. By running his weapons to full, Worf let the Klingons scan the power of those weapons. They knew they could not match the -D. But if Worf fired, their honor would compel them to fight back, and die. Everyone involved knew the -D would turn the antique Klingon ship into a debris cloud if they fought. Worf's comment in their ignorance reminded them their deaths, not knowing what they fought for, would not be honored by other Klingons.
The "Captain's Log" monologue was honestly a very brilliant and succinct way to keep the audience updated with where the plot is at, while not at all breaking the 4th wall.
“Phaser hit on forward shields”. I think he means “disruptor” hit on forward shields.
Bah, a Disruptor is just a Phaser with all the safeties turned off. :P
Is that Oswald from the drew Carey show?
@@bradringelberg4633 no you fool it's Batman.
Give him a break! It was his first day on the job!
Riker: "How did you like command?"
Worf: *grins* "Comfortable chair" :D
Dorn and Frakes had such awesome chemistry lol
Grins?
Frakes also had back problems. 😁
I love the reaction when the Tong fired phasers or disruptors. “The Tong is firing phasers. No damage. That kind of tickled.”
That was an old D7 Heavy Cruiser model proxied as a D5.Those ships had Phasers on the nacelle pylons and one nasty Disruptor bank back below the main bridge pod. Had that been a Kirk-era Constitution-class ship there would've been pause. Shows what 2 centuries of research can do.
“I have no proof of that”
I don’t believe he spent 1 second even looking for proof
Is it me or is the statement: Die In Ignorance! Just on point on so many levels? :)
"Comfortable Chair" These are the little gems where you see the Trekkie nerds in the show's writing room flex a little humor muscle. Love it. Worf is such a great character and Michael Dorn is exceptional.
Good tea... nice house 🤣
How many of Worf's one liners end up on tshirts at Trek conventions. Talk about flexing ones nerdship.
The thing that bothered me about this episode was that the Klingon ship was so antiquated it was impossible to take it seriously as a threat to the _Enterprise._
They were sent to intercept the Klingon Ship because of the defenseless Federation colonies it could have destroyed.
Threat to the Enterprise? Not really.
Threat to local shipping/local colonies? Yes.
A WWII Destroyer is a massively obsolete piece of junk by modern standards... but if one of them chased down a modern container ship the container ship would die horribly against it, in the same way if said destroyer parked itself off the coast of a coastal town it could shell the town into oblivion unless the military turned up to stop it. The same in many ways would be true of WWI era and maybe even earlier then WWI.
@@VhenRaTheRaptor hell, the USS Constitution could probably do quite a bit of property damage if she was sent to shell a coastal town.
@@kevinmencer3782 This is true. You need to really go back to the pre-gunpowder era before a warship parking itself off your coastal town isn't cause for concern... without landing troops anyway.
@@VhenRaTheRaptor then you still have to watch out for smaller craft like your 45' blue water live aboard sailboat. A trireme could absolutely sink a boat like that with a ramming attack.
One of Worf's most badass moments! He wears the Klingon refinery well!
Always thought she was hot, even with the Klingon makeup! Maybe even hotter!
Those tight pants did not help to dissuade that thought.
She looked better as a Vulcan doctor IMO.
yup
Definitely hot ! lol
Hottest as an Andorian, IMO
It was a shame that they killed K'Ehleyr (Suzie Plakston) off in TNG. Her character could have gone far I believe.
She was also female Q on Voyager
That escaped me!
@@scottharvey9764 She was also a Vulcan doctor, Dr. Selar on TNG.
There were lots of possib stories with her character to explore !
A very HOT Q...she made !
Man, he's gonna be pissed when he finds out how bad he got tricked.
I think the victory parade and the barrels of blood wine on the Klingon cruiser Prang probably would make them forget all about that. The T’ong gets a hero’s welcome and the crew gets wasted and gets a shoutout in the high council chambers. Worf secretly gains friends cause he “ figured out a way to save face without anyone dying”
One of the things I love about STTNG is two of the most serious characters Data and Worf were played by two of the funniest cast members resulting in so many outtakes and bloopers.
Kind of cool to see Diedrich Bader as the tactical crewman, his first spot in a TV series. Later to have successful career in many TV shows (Drew Carey Show, etc.) and movies (Office Space, Napoleon Dynamite, etc.)
Yeh cool considering most people dont even know who that is
And Lex Luthor
i remember him always from beveryly hillbillies.
Good old Oswald, instructor for Rex Kwan Do out in the Cleveland area
@@plummet3860 most people would recognize the face and voice and go "hey, I know that guy from somewhere..." The guy voiced Batman in an animated series.... doesn't get cooler than that.
I love how Worf basically told the Klingon captain "F*** around and find out."
Michael Dorn holds the title of delivering the greatest "Have you lost your mind?" in the history of film and television.
I love Worf. He’s such a badass, yet has his tender moments as well. Much to his chagrin.
It's so fitting he voices Battle Beast in the Invincible animated series.
Who ?
Damn, I didn't know that. Now I'm gonna rewatch 1st season.
Mind blown.
@@intheory32 Invincible on Amazon prime, voices the character Battle Beast. A Lion-man with Superman level strength and power.
@@nivekian ya but who ? Micheal dorn ?
Always liked the ending of this episode. Cheers for the upload.
Me too... you're welcome :)
@@tjwparso Did you see the video of Patrick Stewart eating beans?
@@superflibblefull ua-cam.com/video/QwCfS_sNUr8/v-deo.html ? :)
@@tjwparso r/Whoosh! Missed it all this time. ha.
Lance LeGault as K'tamoc. Long-time character actor who appeared in Battlestar Galactica, a number of TV shows in the 1970s and 80s, and was most famously Col. Decker, the nemesis of the A-Team.
On Battlestar Galactica, Lance LeGault played Maga, the leader of a group of Borellian Nomen. Of course, as you pointed out, he's best known as Colonel Roderick Decker on the A-Team.
Interesting to see Diedrich Bader as a Star Trek extra so long ago. He did it well. I kept waiting for him to smirk.😏
And Anne Ramsay pre- Mad About You and A League of Their Own. Suzie Plakson would also play a character on Mad About You.
After all this time, I still got giggly at Picard commending Wolf's first command.
Today one would say: Shrewdly Worf embraced the opportunity to build a portfolio. 😏
In Hollywood one would probably say: He caught an audition.
"Welcome to the 24th century" - can't be the same century number in Klingon culture can it?
It won't be, but that's the beauty of the supercomputers that are the universal translators.
The Klingons probably heard something like: "Welcome to the year 990" in Klingon; their equivalent of stardate 42901.3 (2365 CE).
definitely not; just a bit of artistic laziness
@@mycrowsoffed It's in a writer's best interest to simplify the script and not make it so convoluted and confusing. Viewers were more familiar with Federation timekeeping than they were with Klingon. "Artistic laziness" is a lacking conclusion.
@@Mantric1 There is no "CE or BCE". I gave you an upvote until I saw that.
AD and BC are the only legitimate earth dating methods in use, now or in the 24th century AD.
CE & BCE are purely invented terms, used only by those who have religious hatred in their hearts.
@@duckduckgoismuchbetter Only the Sith deal in absolutes.
It's not hatred, but rather common courtesy for the other 10000 religions that I use CE.
AD and BC are purely invented terms as well, seemingly used by at least one with in their heart a hatred of another kind entirely.
With religion as a whole in steep decline in almost all of the developed world, it's probably wishful thinking, predicting religion still having a major role in the 24th century.
I guess our afterbears will tell, if the Fermi paradox doesn't get us first.
I’m surprised no one recognized Jethro at tactical.
“I reckon that’s how people wave hello in Beverly Hills”.
what i love most about this series is the suddle hints of superiour tech like, that the screen they are using is actually 3D. every time the perspective changes the scale and the perspective on the screen match it.
They could have shown Duras' treachery using Suzi Plaxton differently--she could have figured out he would kill her, and fight him and kill him. I would get the impression she's bad ass enough to kill Duras if she needed to. Or perhaps they discovered him and fought him together. Damn just hated they killed such a terrific returning character off.
agreed. I hated her death, felt entirely unnecessary.
And in the Mirror Universe Duras and K'Ehryl are both alive and were instrumental in helping The Terrans gain their Freedom from The Former Klingon Cardassians Alliance. Rise Like Lions Novel.
I hear that the crewman who takes over at tactical is a master of Rex Kwan Do.
"And you wore it well." Man, you can practically hear the character purring with that phrase. Good job on that actress.
LOL...that's "Lawrence" (Diedrich Bader) from Office Space at the Tactical station.
And from the Drew Carey show 😁
Thought I recognized that voice
Wonder if he'd be able to handle two Klingon chicks at the same time
No, that's The Searcher: ua-cam.com/video/DQzyvD3nSng/v-deo.html
And Anne Ramsay (Ensign Clancy at the helm) pre- Mad About You and A League of Their Own. Suzie Plakson would also play a character on Mad About You.
When Klingons looked like Klingons.
Oh, so like a bunch of white guys with brown paint on them and Manchurian-styled moustaches?
@@DistractedGlobeGuy Actually many of the Klingons in TNG where black actors so........maybe check your racism. I also am a fan of the OG Klingons
@@lordmegatron8444 I was referring to the TOS ones, and in this case it's not even a racism thing, I'm just making fun of limited '60s TV make-up effects.
"Comfortable chair!" Love Worf.
"welcome to the 24th century" is a dead giveaway.
Human dating...
I feel bad for Worf, he probably thought Picard was going to accept his suggestions more often after this.
When it came to tactical Jean Luc usually did take Worf’s suggestions. Cause Jean Luc knew his officers and was sure that Worf wouldn’t suggest something if he didn’t think it wouldn’t work
@@matthewcaughey8898 Word is also a Klingon, and a fairly traditional (in his mind anyway) one at that, so you know Worfs first reaction is almost always going to be weapon's.
Worf: "Welcome to the 24 century"
Other Alien, that has been in space way longer than humans: "WTF is a century and why is it only the 24th?"
i realize you're joking. but translators in trek can presumably compensate for cultural references
K'Temoc is just still looking for John "Hannibal" Smith.
What are things I liked about this series years ago was they were so good at finding a third option instead of total surrender or fight to the death. Some nuances and some ways around problems that hadn’t always been explored in other series.
Worf was definitely one of the best characters in TNG and DS9. I love his moments like this where he was a bad ass but also was terrified by the birth of O'Brian"s second child.
Worf: when is it ?
O'Brian: in 9 months.
Worf: I will be away.
Lamfao 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well, Worf *Does* have a history of generally F'ing up with kids.
Just look at his own son...
I BELIEVE that was a call back...If I'm not mistaken, he helped deliver O'Brien's first child, and was terrified, shocked, and repulsed in equal measure.
Find a woman who looks at you the way she looks at Worf.
"Welcome to the 24th century."
Great job, Worf, you just told them that it was INDEED a Federation trick...
No competent tactical officer would delay on an order just because the enemy cries “wait”, without being told to belay the previous command. Bust him down to cadet.
True, but since he was likely aware of the plan "he analyzed the situation and did not 'blindly follow orders'"
@@jaredhamon3411 Excellent analysis.
@@jaredhamon3411 Also, the weapons officer was looking at Worf's body language right at that point so as not to misconstrue the following seconds.
You have to look at the situation here. Word held all of the good cards, and knew it, the other guy didn't have a chance, and he knew it. Then it turns into "do I really want to die without honor?"
Worf blew it by not giving a ceasefire command.
Captain Worf's first command. May we see more!
He didn't state he was the Captain.
He simply stated he was Worf, *commanding* the Enterprise, which, at the moment, was true.
@@BedsitBob And thus, as both Nathaniel and Captain Picard said, his first command...
@@peter9477 What I was pointing out is, he didn't lie to the Klingons, because he didn't declare himself to be Captain Worf.
@@BedsitBob Ah, my bad. Thought you were misreading and trying to correct Nathaniel. Carry on! :-)
I would have loved to have seen a spin off about Worf commanding a Federation Starship.
Have you never watched DS9? Worf commanded the Defiant quite often, unless Sisko needed to do so. At first, Worf refused to use the quarters on the station assigned to him, preferring to stay on the Defiant.
@@johnmullholand2044
I was not a fan of DS9.
Just couldn't get into it.
2:24 Favorite shot in this scene. The standoff looks so much more palpable when he's staring down a face that looks larger than his body.
Michael Dorn owned the role of Worf
1:05 "Phaser hit on our forward shields." Wait I thought the Klingons (like the Romulans) use disruptors.
Wellll, the lore (cannon and not-so-cannon) goes back and forth on this. Depends on which of the several "official" and lots of "unofficial" sources you look at. But the majority (or consensus if you prefer) is that Klingon warships of that era had both disruptors and phasers. Disruptors tended to be more powerful and more long ranged than the phasers (which tended to be inferior to the phasers used by Federation ships) but were power hogs and took slightly longer to recharge. Also, at extremely close range (which this encounter certainly took place at) the phasers tended to be easier to target. Disruptors were easier to target at mid-ranges. All of this is, of course, conjecture based on (often conflicting) various sources. I will point out that the discharges originated on the "wings" of the cruiser. This is where several sources agree that the forward firing phasers tended to be mounted while the main disruptors were usually mounted on the forward ends of the warp nacelles. Okay, that's enough psuedo-techical geeking on my part.
@@Vulpine407 NEEEERRRRRD! lol
@@kuidan True.
@@Vulpine407 I bow to the greater nerd, and note the ever-constantly re-confirmed truth that no matter how nerdy one is, there is always someone else even nerdier.
My goodness, this makes me feel so nostalgic!
Got a good chuckle out of K'Temac asking "How do I know this isn't a Federation trick." It is a Federation trick. They're trying to trick you into believing the truth and standing down to prevent bloodshed which would strain the Federation Klingon alliance until a Klingon ship can arrive to collect them and bring them up to date on the state of the galaxy. I'd love to see K'Temac's face when he realizes the full truth.
"24th Century, wait, isn't that a human term?"
This makes me kinda sad ERB never took up my suggestion of...
Worf ( star trek ) vs Teal'c ( Stargate )
Chilled prune juice vs. scalding hot coffee.
That would be quiet and short.
Teal'c was definitely Stargate's Worf and intended to be.
The K'tinga here caused less damage to the Enterprises shields than the D7 did to Voyager in the episode "Prophecy".
A good comparison when people forget that despite having newer technology, the Intrepid class was not tactically superior to the Galaxy class.
The Voyager would have had superior shields to the Enterprise of a few years earlier. But in this case the Enterprise had superior plot armor.
@@duckduckgoismuchbetter Superior efficiency, perhaps. Galaxy class ships are a lot bigger and more powerful than Intrepid class, though. That extra power is shown in, among other things, the strength of the shields.
@@TechnoMageB5 It's a lot bigger, but that just means that it would take more power to run the shields. And shield efficiency and effectiveness would have been a lot better overall in a later generation ship like Voyager. Especially because of the rapid weapons R&D made necessary by the Borg, which the Enterprise D had not been designed for.
The problem with the Enterprise D is that it was designed for families and an irrational amount of open space. In an era when the Federation was not facing any major threats. Hence, plot armor was used a lot, relative to a few years later when the Writer Gods, in their infinite retrospective "wisdom", decided that more Ship Vulnerability was needed in order to ward off the incessant attacks of the dreaded enemy known as Writers Block. Hence, an old D7 is a threat again. 😂
Also, inexplicably, Voyager can nonetheless go toe to toe with the Borg, and win repeatedly. Whereas the Enterprise D cannot. But can, otoh, easily cow, and presumably defeat, an old D7, which is, inexplicably, a threat to the Borg defeating Voyager.
Plot Armor is therefore, plainly, more POWERFUL than ablative armor. But unfortunately more finicky. Only the mystical Writers Guild, and the Q Continuum can fully get around plot armor. And not even the Q can get COMPLETELY around it, if the all-powerful Writers decide otherwise, lol.
One thing that never changes though, is the fact that all electronic panels, which are not REALLY electronic anymore in the 24th century, and haven't been "electronic" for centuries, are STILL made out of Sparkium and Explodium. No matter HOW advanced the ships get, the same old Explodium will ALWAYS be used.
@@duckduckgoismuchbetter They are all made from Samsung Galaxy note 7s, you can't explain it otherwise.
@@inventor121 The hottest phone in history. 😁
I always head-cannon what happened to captain K'Temac after returning to the home world, being given a heros welcome and after being fully educated on the new era, being given the opportunity to train young klingons who havn't seen battle or who knows what else
I can't think of anyone who could play Worf better than Micheal Dorn. He just nailed every bit so well.
This sort of thing has actually happened in human history with soldiers separated from their unit continuing to fight a war they had no idea had long ended in a world they had no clue had long moved on without them. Like the story of the Japanese soldier hiding out in the jungle.
That Klingon has an excellent Trans-Atlantic accent.
He played Colonel Decker on A-Team
"And Captain...yes? -Welcome to THE 24th Century!"
Anne Ramsay at the helm and Diedrich Bader at Tactical.
When he says high command at 3:04 I swear it sounds like shredder from turtles lol
I miss James Avery, may he rest in peace
Bebop, Rockysteady......attack....turtles, Jump for it.....they collide.......you idiots
Clearly this was torture for Worf.. He had to endure (da da daaa) The comfy chair
He's made of sterner stuff.
@Ignatius Q. Snerd, II, Esq. Who poked him with the soft com links
"Comfortable Chair," was a funny way of answering that he liked command of the Enterprise and the response of "You Wore It Well" was even funnier as a back handed compliment, she meant that he wore command well but sounded as if she meant the Chair 💺 🤷♂️🤦♂️🤣🤣🤣
Cool seeing Diedrich Bader running the console behind the captain's chair.
The best interactions were the ones after they surrendered the ship.
"Comfortable chair.". LOL! Pure Worf, just like the episode when he said, "Nice legs".
Riker is just chuckling that Worf must now return to his STANDING position, where he gets to moan about his sore bunions, and not having a chair for a few more seasons.
Comfortable chair, but a heavy mantle and a difficult road. A Challenge worthy of a Warrior.
I forgot Batman was in Star Trek.
I know Worf is being humble here, but I can't help but feel it is also a joke. After all Worf has to stand at his station, at all times. I don't think Worf gets a chair till Enterprise-E and the Defiant. Must have been muder on his back.💀
They can always replace his back if they need to 🤭
@@galenkehler Well, if Worf doesn't try to commit suicide first.😋😂
You could argue it was out of respect for Worf's Klingon heritage (which he takes very seriously) that no true soldier should be comfortable or relaxed. A Klingon soldier should be battle-ready at all times. By Enterprise-E I imagine Worf relaxed his Klingon standards.
Right at the end, Hot Klingon Lady gives him a look-over and he gives her the cold shoulder. He's a shy boi!
HAHA! the tactical officer on Enterprise is Diedrich Bader, maybe better known as Oswald on the Drew Carey show.
That was lance de gault. I didn't realize that when it first aired. I can hear him asking about the A Team already.
They are still using Murdock (Barclay) to lead Decker astray, while the other three escape.
Thank you. It was driving me nuts. Was about to go to imdb but hoped a commenter would save me lol
@@YD-uq5fi I was waiting for Mr. T to play a Klingon.