Analysis of Evan Rachel Wood's Sexual Abuse Allegations Against Marilyn Manson
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"The time to give support is immediately, a month later, ten years later, all the time."
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Yes. Wise and kind words.
"It's not just courageous the first time, it's courageous every time"
That was very touching Dr Grande, thank you!
I agree. This was very nicely put.
This is a brand new perspective for me and makes so much sense. Wow. I really feel this.
I agreed. Thank you, Dr. grande.
Ladies, and Gentlemen NO DISRESPECT INTENDED WITH MY COMMENT but if a partner, boyfriend or girlfriend whatever comment to you HEY, I WANT TO BBQ YOUR RIBS or do the type of SHIT MANSON DOES OR ANYBODY it’s called a RED FLAG I CANNOT BE MORE SPECIFIC WITH MY COMMENT DAMMMMMM
@Some annoying person I think that is a reference to something Armie Hammer texted one of his victims.
Since Manson's lawsuit has came about, I would love to see an update on this situation
There have been many updates now. None that make Evan look good.
ERW gaslight Dr. Grande 😵💫
She really fooled him and Dr. Ramani. Makes me question both their credibility
@@JocelynFT I think she has been abused by Manson in certain ways. Yet is lying also about a lot of things.
It's hard to believe her at all now. But yet I do believe there was something going on. Evan needs help.
She's the one destroying her life now.
I was molested from the time I was four to 10. It was my dad’s sister’s husband. I don’t call her my aunt because she said I “seduced him” and I don’t call him my uncle. I call him “it.” They aren’t “my” anything. He didn’t directly tell me not to say anything, but my dad was an abusive, angry man so I think: I was a prime target and I wouldn’t say anything because of how my dad was. I don’t trust people right away and actually have a long list of characteristics that I need in order to trust someone. Right now the only person I trust is my husband. Before it died, I wrote him a four page letter, front and back, telling him how what he did affected my life. My dad and brother continued to see this man, and after it came out in the open my dad asked/said “He didn’t really do that to you, did he?”
How he was caught: he used to like to take me to the beach (grew up in So Cal). He would use this opportunity to rub sunscreen on me (this is hard to write) and a man saw him doing it and said he was going to call the police, which he did. It was arrested, I was taken to the Orange County courthouse or some building and they made me reenact the abuse with dolls. It was humiliating. When my parents arrived they made me tell them, also humiliating. It told my dad “I didn’t hurt her!” Meaning physically, but the abuse was intertwined in every romantic relationship I’ve had, how I saw myself, how I thought everyone else saw me, the works. My parents never talked to me about it at all after that. It was swept under the rug and life went on
Omg that sounds horrific! It sounds like a monster! Not a man 😒
I honestly think sexually abusing a child is about to just as bad as murdering them…they may not be murdering them physically but they murder the child’s spirit, their sense of innocence.
Hugs to you Mama! I hope you’re doing well today. I’m happy for you that you found a supportive ally in your husband, that’s so important! Take care of yourself.
I’m so sorry that happened to you. The person who abused me justified the abuse by also saying he didn’t “hurt” me since he just “touched” me and nothing else. I struggle a lot with what happened and try to make sense of it all. I notice my romantic relationships often suffer due to this. I’m so happy you found your husband and you two were able to build a trust. ❤️
This hurts my heart for you. Please know that sharing so transparently is helping others, possibly giving courage to someone afraid to reach out for help. I sincerely hope writing about it was healing in a way. It's hard enough without judgement from those who don't understand. I appreciate everyone's openness bc the public needs to be educated. All the best to you ❤️
@@MissBmoney I’m sorry you went through that, too 😢. My husband has a sister that was molested so he is pretty understanding. He has three sisters and it was his older sister. His mom cut off contact with the creep (it was his mom’s brother and they were really close before that). No one else in the family cut off contact. I’ll never understand that dynamic in families, where they stay in contact with the pedo. Members of my family did that so I cut off contact with them. Unfortunately, my husband’s mom was murdered in 2004 and I never got a chance to meet her.
My heart breaks for you. Just know you are in my prayers. God bless you dear.
Wife (telling me about a argument with a coworker): so what do you think? Was I wrong?
Me: I’m not diagnosing anybody here just speculating on what might be going on in a situation like this
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But do you use the Five Factor Model, which you remember from the mnemonic OCEAN?
He needs that line on his merch
@@humanipulationnation He needs merch. I would buy Todd Grande merch.
The thing about SA is it doesn’t just negatively effect the survivor, it effects every single relationship that survivor has for the rest of his or her life. There are still moments 30 years and lots of therapy later, my husband has to deal with the consequences of one man’s actions towards an innocent child. My children don’t know it, but it effects them as well, they don’t go on sleep overs, their relationships with adults get constantly scrutinized and are kept at a distance. Some men I’ve come into contact with get immediately distrusted, through no fault of their own, because of that abuser. It is truly a crime that keeps on “giving”. It gets better, and it gets easier, but it never goes away.
Too much security is just as bad as not enough.
Your children should never have to suffer because of what someone else did to their father. You are robbing them of their innocence and childhood.
I can relate to this 100%. I was brutally raped in 2011 when I was 18. He had 130lbs+ on me & I begged him to stop and tried pushing him off but he didn't stop attacking me. I confronted him after the assault and he even admitted raping me only to say, "I wasn't woman enough to handle him." The reason I never called the police is because my dad had been going through health issues his whole life and I didn't want to add more stress to my family. Also, my dad was a former cop who had also been traumatized so I knew if my dad found out, he'd kill the guy. Thus, I kept it mainly to myself telling only a few of my very close friends until I finally sought therapy. If I took him to court, I don't want his money - I would just want him in prison.
I was also assaulted by a professor in 2015. It's a long story and I'd rather not get into it. Howevee when I went to the school counselor, they did little to help me. I also went to another adult on campus, a professor of mine who had served as my mentor and he essentially did nothing when I let him know looking for help. This attack is in association with a MAJOR university and the statue of limitations has not ended which is why I'm not giving many details as I have always wanted to seek justice for the trauma I have faced.
I have lived with the long-term affects of these attacks. I have PTSD, chronic depression and anxiety. It's unfair that all of my relationships have suffered because of these attacks.
@@abeltesfaye_ Something like this may help some people but it will certainly be used to destroy an innocent man. But One injustice deserves another right so who cares..
Stay strong.
@@jerryhampton5755 you do realize false assault allegations only occur 2% of the time which means 98% of assault allegations are true, right? Stop looking for ways to discredit survivors
Dude, she forged an FBI letter.......
Marilyn Manson is now suing Evan Rachel Wood for defamation
I wish my mother could understand all this. Just because my abuser died doesn’t mean my emotional problems are over. He got away with it. It never goes away.🤠❤️
*Did* he get away with it, really?
It's very disappointing and disheartening when women downplay sexual assault and sexual abuse. The memories remain fresh throughout the victim's life, and sometimes the victim just needs a friend or family member to talk to and they are often told, "You have got to stop talking about it and move on with your life! Just think about something positive!"
If only it were so easy. I'm so sorry for what happened to you. I will send prayers to ask Him to bring you peace as you continue to deal with the trauma. 🙏
I was in an abusive relationship. I pressed charges and the guy died before it could go to trial. I also know the feeling. For me, I never got closure
You outlived him. You won. Living well will be your justice. I hope you get what you need to heal and live well.
@@spencerfrankclayton4348 what is that comment supposed to mean?
As a survivor, I cried like a baby when you were saying how to support victims. Thank you for making this video and explaining the signs and how to help, people often have the best intentions but don’t realize how long the pain stays with you.
❤❤ do you Follow Dr. Ramani? she is awesome.
It’s nice to have that empathy, but we have to remember not everyone in our lives are therapists and not everyone in our lives have to deal and be the best person they can be for our sake. I’ve been a straight shitty person and jeopardized my life in terrible ways. It’s not another person’s responsibility to take that on when I confess things to them. It freaks people the fuck out. As it should. Their own life shouldn’t have to revolve around taking care of me. That’s selfish and unfair. There comes some point where you have to be able to deal with it, functionally, and not make it a central burden for everyone you love and/or want in your life.
That was very well said.
@@yusefendure it’s so difficult for me. I think about my own experiences and people around me more less intimate, “Well, it wasn’t full on rape, why are you so upset?”
My first time I was still a child, and it was my older brother’s friend. In a place I thought of as safe. When I was a grown ass adult and an employer grabbed me and bent me over a table because we were alone was the scariest thing I have lived through. That was a moment you shut down and go into survival mode. Don’t fight, don’t antagonize. Or you’ll get hit harder. Be limp, friendly and complainant and negotiate your own release.
@@shrryph I'm so sorry that happened to you. That's horrible. I'm glad that you're able to discuss it and I'm glad you survived it.
I have a friend who almost always rejects any accuser's claims of abuse as 'gold-digging' or 'she's just trying to get rich and famous.' He just doesn't get it and probably never will. It's infuriating to listen to that type of ignorance.
I was physically assaulted by my parents as a kid. I got whipped with a belt or switch daily and I did whatever I could to survive it. 'Don't fight...or you'll get hit harder' was exactly my mindstate.
I was never sexually assaulted, but there were several attempts that I narrowly escaped.
'Well, it wasn't full on rape, why are you so upset?' That's almost verbatim what I've heard for many years on this subject. Sorry, but the denial of this disgusting type of act or the flat out rejection of it DOES do damage.
Your words hit home. Again, thanks for sharing, and stay safe...and strong!
Anyone can repeat an abuse story with seemingly heartfelt emotion. Her body language is another thing.
I was an Evan Rachel Wood fan and because of this I watched " Pheonix Rising". I knew nothing about Marilyn Manson. Evan Rachel Wood's account just does not ring true to me for many reasons. Neither do any of her interviews about this. I am an abuse survivor. I will be doing further research. The truth will be revealed. Seems strange that she is friends with Amber Heard and Johnny Depp is very good friends with Manson. And look what is coming out about Amber Heard by her own admission (recordings made by her to defame Depp but is doing the opposite) and by the credible testimony of others.
What really happened with Wood and Manson? We shall see.
Doing drugs together does not necessarily equate that two people are friends. At least, with the Manson situation, along with this detailed story, is a trail of other equally abused women experienced similar patterns and behaviors over years. TBH, Depp romances have usually been public over the decades. Until this train wreck of a divorce, he has never been accused of being abusive in relationships. Quite the opposite for Manson.
@@lizetteolsen3218 i hope you know i am a DEPP supporter! As well as manson!😊
What reason didn't ring true to you and why?
@@mamaboocee check out colonel kurta. She has many videos about the issues with erw's claims.
@@Asshat237 thanks! We think alike! i am already a fan of Colonel Kurtz!
Will you create a video about pathological liars and attention seekers if it is determined she was deceptive?
It's already proven. The FBI confirmed that they never wrote the letter she submitted to Court in her divorce. She FORGED a letter from a real FBI agent and forged their signature. FBI is currently investigating if charges will be brought.
Your respect for abuse survivors is part of the reason I follow you. You are a person of dignity and grace, and I appreciate you so much.
@Ja Ja DingDong yes, she is.
@Ja Ja DingDong no, she's not.
@Ja Ja DingDong no
@Ja Ja DingDong stfu
@Ja Ja DingDong troll troll trollll~ she is. Did you also think she was lying when she came out about her abuse years ago without mentioning names? Look at edwins video on this
I noticed there aren’t as many jokes or humorous quips in this one, thank you for discussing this serious topic in a serious way.
I appreciated that, too.
Agreed. Some topics need more serious treatment.
Ya, he did the same when he did one on, Edgar Allan Poe.
Yeah. There's a time and a place.
I noticed that too. Perhaps 🤔 Dr. Grande is showing us his real roots and abilities in psychology?
Whenever I hear somebody say they are brainwashed I can’t take it serious
Maybe if your hollowed headed and have no brain.ya know small minded people
@James Patrick and it was ineffective.
The big issue with "brainwashing" is that if it is to be believed then anyone can retrospectively claim abuse by claiming their consent at the time was void because they were "brainwashed." I could claim my ex girlfriend abused me with whips and even though I enjoyed it and asked for it I was "brainwashed" at the time.
@@slavesteven3049 You're trying to debunk brainwashing by claiming people can lie about it? People can lie about literally anything. By your logic, cancer doesn't exist.
Whenever I hear somebody said they don't take brainwashing seriously I can't take them seriously.
Yes it's too telling.
“The insecurities are more pronounced because of the abuse itself… so it’s this vicious cycle that rewards the abuser for gaslighting. Their ability to gaslight becomes enhanced due to their own abusive behavior- the more the perpetrator commits abuse, the more they can blame the survivor for what is happening to the survivor.” -
This is profound, Dr. Grande.
For me, one sentence summarises our society's attitude towards abuse: "I saw it but thought it would not get any worse". As long as we think such behaviour is OK in small doses, nothing will change where abuse is concerned. When is abuse - any kind of abuse - ever OK? Even in small doses, it is not OK!
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I agree. The mere fact that the abuser accepts it at all shows the success of the abuser.
I came home one morning and my boyfriend started tossing me all over the apartment. As my stepfather quickly headed for the exit door, he said, "Don't hurt her", as the abuse continued and I lost the child I was carrying. Thanks, dad.
@@caroleemorais7920 I'm so sorry for your horrible experience and your loss. I truly hope you got rid of that boyfriend and the cowardly stepfather. What an idiot he was!
A child raised in abuse may recognize it as wrong but still follow patterns familiar to them and choose an abusive mate. After 3 relationships where it turned out once out of the honeymoon stage, all were abusive, I realized it was best for me to go it alone. 15 years single, happy, and not looking.
Dr Grande asks how other people are, but we never ask how Dr Grande is. 🫂
This is a good statement. I had asked in a comment if he ever struggles with the problems of others infecting his psyche and if he needs to take steps to be on top of this. I think it’s too personal and he wasn’t inclined to respond
@Latisha Jackson 🤣 the cacti killer
@Mo Elm Good grief, how many times did you post this victim blaming bull*hit? You seem "slightly" obsessed Mo.
We love you dr. Grandeeeee
I am a survivor of years of prolonged sexual abuse so I am no stranger to it, however I think that before we jump the gun and start accusing this man before he has been charged we need to take a look at what happened to Johnny Depp. There is much more to the situation than what most people know and once you start looking into the facts the story falls apart. Miss woods is very sophisticated in her attempt to prosecute him and is very well read, she's much more slide than Amber heard. Obviously I stand behind and support anybody who's actually been abused, but we as the society cannot be jumping to conclusions all the time even if there seems to be a bunch of people on board. Just make sure you do some deep investigating before you jump to any conclusions on this fan. And I'm not a fan by any means of him but I am a fan of the truth
You are completely correct, the truth will come out just like it did with Johnny Depp. EWR was embarrassed by her performance in the video heart shaped glasses so created this allegation to avoid taking responsibility.
I agree with your comments. The allegations need to be taken seriously and properly investigated but you can’t just decided that Marilyn Manson did these horrible things based only on the words of Evan Rachel Wood
@@inshazaheer6384 funny the fbi dropped their investigation as' there were problems with the credibility of the witnesses '. I think that says it all.
A trusted friend of mine organized a party for MM many years ago and told me many unsavory things went on and he can well believe the allegations.
Agree, but that includes not assuming that ERW is lying because she is female. Let's see objective evidence. I love MM's music so I would be sad to hear his abuse is true. But, I want to know the truth. Not, conjecture. .and men are statistically are more likely to abuse their partners and get away with it.
My heart breaks because there are so many comments here by people surviving abuse.
I was never sexually abused. I can't even imagine the hurt and betrayal by someone that is supposed to love you. I'm 55 years old and it can still bring me to tears and I will literally quake with fear when I think of my first grade teacher. She terrorized me for the entire year I had her. She was cruel and sadistic. Worst of all she convinced me not to tell my mother because my mother would be so disappointed with me if she knew what a bad girl I was. My mother was a widow who of course work full-time supporting me and my five other sisters. This woman convinced me that I was just a bad and worthless child. I was paddled with the board on numerous occasions. This was the first time in my life I have ever been struck by anyone. I would sit in my chair and worry what I would do next that would make her paddle me. I can think of two occasions that were absolutely ridiculous reasons to paddle me. I took too long getting tissues out of the nurse's office. The most ridiculous one was that I pretended I had Amnesia while I was playing at recess. I had seen it the night before on Gilligan's Island.
I can remember often being stood up before my fellow classmates and ridiculed as they were encouraged to join in.
I started not wanting to go to school. My mother couldn't understand why so she took me to a psychiatrist to talk to me to see if there was an issue. Of course after I spoke to the psychiatrist I watched my teacher then come into the office and speak with the psychiatrist. I remember that I lied to the psychiatrist about everything.
I was so certain I was going to be locked up in an institution and taken away from my mother.
It was many years later that I told my mother about what I went through. In the year 2000 they had a special ceremony at the elementary school. She no longer taught first grade but she remained a teacher in the school district until her retirement.
I went to that ceremony with the plan to confront her. She didn't recognize me at first but when I started to remind her of all the different reasons she paddled me she knew my name right away. Shortly after I started speaking I began to cry but I was able to ask her if she thought that the above-mentioned reasons she paddled me we're justified. I reminded her how we both went and saw that psychiatrist because my mother couldn't understand why I didn't want to go to school. She had a shocked look on her face and look very uncomfortable because there were people around listening to the conversation. Because I was crying as I spoke I am pretty sure she is the only person that knew what I was talking about.
I again asked her if she felt that striking a six-year-old with a piece of wood was OK. She said no and said " well all I can say is I am sorry and aren't we lucky that times have changed and we've learned so much from all those years ago." She use the old well that's how things were back then. Her excuse for what she did to me were it was just how they taught in the 70s.
I apologize for the long and rambling story that has nothing to do with sexual abuse.
I shared it for two reason. The first reason I shared it was because I wanted people to understand that abuse of any kind has a long-term impact on people. The abuser just gets to move on to their next victim. The victim gets to live with the abuse and it's Impact for the rest of their lives.
The second reason I shared my story is because I want to say that Susan Schneider my first grade teacher at Willow Street Elementary, in the Lampeter-Strasburg school district, in West Lampeter Township, Lancaster PA was my abuser.
Sorry to hear that you didn't get the recognition or validation from the abuser. I hope you managed to get the necessary catharsis to move on 🎉
So sorry for you . 😢
Wow this is like “Dr Grande talks about my ex husband”
Really though this actually made me feel extremely validated and sane. Thanks for this.
Agreed. And the biggest thank you to Evan Rachel Wood. The emotional strength it must've taken for her to come forward. I felt validated and sane after hearing Evan's gut-wrenching testimony.
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@Mo Elm Going by your attitude, any woman that manages to avoid you Mo should think herself lucky.
Same for me, I had a long term relationship with a man 18 years older than me. I left him because I was ashamed of how I had allowed myself to be manipulated by him, by the end I felt nothing but pity for him. I left with nothing except a few clothes and the cat despite my being the only one who worked the whole time, I was just glad to get away.
@@kategould4857 Glad you got out. Monetary possessions are replaceable. You (and the kitty) are not. 💕❤
This story is heartbreaking, and I'm just grateful that you handled this so carefully, and so respectfully. Thank you, dear sir. 💝
I 2nd that!
I think he really made hos only bias video here.
I feel in some ways this video goes off target and starts discussing abuse in general rather than her specific allegations (which are increasingly looking potentially false due to her many issues with determining fantasy and reality) I like what you said about supporting survivors...but that aside I felt this video kind of implied you believe her and accept Manson as guilty, without any evidence. Seemed more biased than usual
Manson fanboys are delusional
When he discussed the steps in which survivors reveal the abuse, I was wondering if forging FBI letters and multiple choice questionnaires were a normal part of it. I never thought that victims would feel the need to fabricate federal documents and solicit potential victims via oddly specific and detailed question lists. I feel like it hurt her credibility and only helped to undermine her allegations.
He's biased in quite a few videos. Off the top of my head, he automatically called two Michael Jackson accusers liars when one of them seems credible and very traumatized. (The other one seems full of it like Evan.) He never even entertained the possibility that one or both could have been abused. I'm guessing he's an MJ fan. I was too until I learned that he had a legal (because it was "artistic"🤮) photo of a naked boy hidden in his closet. If he thought it was good art, why didn't he hang it up? Why hide "art?"
I'll give one more example because I have limited time. If you pay attention to which political figures he does and doesn't criticize, it's easy to tell what his political views are. He only criticizes those he disagrees with. Most politicians are crooks and anyone who disagrees with that is dumb, naive, narrow minded, or all three. Just because you agree with most of someone's policies doesn't make them a saint. He's prone to black and white thinking, to use therapy jargon.
Hope you will consider doing an updated video with Marilyn Manson defamation against ERW and all other things that have been brought to light (forging an FBI letter, huge issues with one of his accusers etc )
Probably a lot to dig into
He won’t, Dr. grande is too much of a coward to eat his words
I remember telling someone (a friend) I was abused sexually, and they responded with "and you couldn't just stop them? why didn't you leave immediately?" with a shrug. I realized that not many can understand what being mentally and sexually abused meant, and that I had to work out my issues on my own.
I could see a predator use the paralysis of abuse to confuse a person.
Wow what a horrible friend! Like what they couldn’t have said anything else first at least like I’m sorry that happened just straight to victim blaming, fuck them. Hope you’re doing good and getting help to heal from the abuse, and may your days be filled with love and laughter
Yep, people just don't understand.. and lots of times I don't understand my own reactions and actions.. I find it's usually a case of misinformation or a lack of education when people respond inappropriately.. so I try not to take it personally.. but yeah, I wasn't believed the first time I told someone.. so I never spoke about it again for 10 years.. not helpful
Some people may not understand what it’s like, but it does not mean they have to be assholes about it. They can educate themselves on the topic, instead of dismissing you like that. They are being immature. Hope, you found someone who understands and supports you. There are people out there who would )
@@te9591 I had a college professor who taught a relationship psychology course. She was Puerto Rican from the Bronx and just the toughest person imaginable. When we got to the topic of abuse she admitted to being in an abusive relationship for many years to the class. Frankly I was shocked. My image of a victim was a helpless maybe naive or vulnerable person. She told the class that anyone. Anyone can end up in an abusive relationship. it has little to do with strength.
Thank you very much for this kindness. The reality of sexual abuse needs to be understood. Thank You Thank You Thank You 🙏🏽
Pro opinion: 👍❤️🔥
Yes exactly!
Can we actually get a definition of 'sexual abuse' please?
Have you revisited this since the allegations of ERW approaching other women impersonating an FBI agent? And MM has filed charges? It’d be interested to hear your thoughts on this if she indeed was deceitful?
I think he should shut his mouth until the trial
Crazy things going on in JDs trial with MM constantly being mentioned as JDs friend.
@@TRACE317 exactly I noticed that too
I would be interested to see how this one plays out, the Manson/Wood case, especially given the verdict in the Depp/Heard case as of late. And ohhhhhhh how they demonized Depp in the mainstream and online, and how they jumped to conclusions and fired him from upcoming projects. I suppose crow is on the menu now.!!
@@TRACE317 so? They’ve been best friends for decades. Manson is the Godfather of JD’s daughter. Of course he was mentioned.
Thank you. I have experienced everything you said here. I have had PTSD for close to 15 years. I experienced a traumatic event and then an abusive relationship directly after where what I had experienced was used against me in an attempt to demean and control me. It was very similar to Evan Rachel Woods experience with her perpetrator. I won’t even dignify him by using his fake name. So grateful she came forward. This makes it easier for other women to talk about their abuse and trauma. I am doing a lot better but it completely ruined my life for 10 years and I could not cope. I started trusting others and ultimately myself again which was the biggest blow to my psyche. I was always stuck between two thoughts and I never knew how I felt. I lost so much but I am slowly getting it back. I no longer have any contact with my abuser and unfortunately when I came forward the police wouldn’t help me. Times are slowly changing now and it is a beautiful thing. Sending love to any women that is going through this now. It will get better but it takes time so be patient with yourself. It’s not your fault and you can let go of any shame you feel. Find someone to talk to. I had to get on Psych meds. That is when my life got better. Therapy helps too. Thank you Dr. Grande.
“Recovering alone is quite difficult.” Truer words were never spoken. I went it solo for too long. I’m grateful to have a small support system now. Thank you for a sensitive take on this issue.
I am already a fan of your videos, but I have to say - videos like this truly help make the world a better place because the global public is waking up to predator patterns, narcissistic behaviors, and sexual abuse. I think it’s great when you highlight those courageously coming forward. God bless!.
Agreed!
💯 Agree with you. I also think it's important that professionals show how devastating & long term the effects of abuse can be on the survivors.
Very good for community awareness !
@@catT5236 Here are my thoughts: This story just goes to show you can’t judge a book by its cover. Marilyn Manson is literally the last person I would think of who would be involved in S&M and tying up sex partners and biting sex partners. When Evan started dating him, I’m sure she thought she was getting a clean-cut dude who enjoyed gardening and yoga and playing tennis. And to think this guy was secretly a freak. Evan was really tricked.
@@catT5236 Here is the biggest Blind Spot you have in your analysis: And it’s Very Simple: Why didn’t Evan choose a good-looking “nice guy” to share her life and time with? The answer is Extremely Obvious: She WANTED Marilyn Manson, and everything that comes along with that: THE EXCITEMENT, THE S&M, THE DANGER, THE LUST, THE PAIN, THE PLEASURE. She was with him for FIVE YEARS. Give me a break. Women are not children, yet this grown woman wants us to believe that she didn’t choose that situation. She absolutely chose that life, and now she regrets it. What a child.
I could read a book…even a pamphlet…that discusses and discloses all the salient features of what victims of abuse feel, say, and do. And then formulate a narrative inserting myself into those well established features, hence seeming rock-solid and credible. Evan Rachel Wood thus far has not been able to document her 2 allegations of suicidal ideation or attempted suicide. All of her claims remain subjective. Many times prosecutors, various attorneys, including subpoenas, have requested evidencry records but to no avail. All I’m saying is: believe but verify. Espousing an account that rings true should never be enough to convict. She’s likely discussing real events, now prove it. Otherwise, an actor, especially a good one, can convince us of anything.
@@lccsd2392 Very insightful and informed comment. For this women to make this claim against this man (meaning he’s clearly a sexual dominant) is like a cop writing speeding tickets at the Indianapolis 500. She knew the landscape, she signed up for it. And enjoyed it until she wanted to change the rules she agreed to.
@@bestself2438 such a pathetic gross misrepresentation when it comes to victims of systematic abuse. "Sexual Dominant" is not a pass to be "Sexually Abusive" no matter where or what anyone finds themselves involved in. More than one woman of Manson's ex's have come out accusing him of similiar behavior with them.
@@tinanickerson1006 That’s what safewords are for, sweetheart. It’s not my fault if Ms. Wood’s safeword was: ‘Don’t Stop’.
@@bestself2438careful your revealing way too much of yourself.
@@tinanickerson1006 Hahah…Agreed! My safeword is: THANK YOU SIR MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!
You seem to have no doubt about the truth of her assertions, simply because what she describes can be found in the clinical literature. If that were true, it would seem... strange.
Dr. Grande is playing with my mind, he moved the plants again.
Yes, Ray! Is he messing with us??
I looked right away for the plant. Lol.
In a previous video, Dr Grande said he'd be moving the plants around.
Its a puzzle
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I only just recently told my mom about the thing that happened in 8th grade. I’m 50. I was in therapy for decades.
I don’t know you and you don’t know me. But I am so fucking proud of you ❤️
I'm really sorry for what you've gone through. I hope you have finally found some peace.
❤ sending you love
Well done X
Found another HERO---PRAISE THE LORD JESUS CHRIST 👐FOR YOU ❣️🕊️ XXXXX
MAY YAHWEH BLESS YOU, HEAL U& RESTORE/RENEW YOU @namastenurse
I know I'm way late to the party and a lot more has come out since this video was uploaded but I'm just now catching it. I'm wondering if Doc Grande has changed his stance at all in light of some really shady evidence of Woods' credibility and some of her tactics. I don't know enough to come down on a side with this and think it's possible this is another hoax.
I look forward to the video on Amber Heard, somewhere down the line. E.R.W had more credibility initially. But when she and her girlfriend co-opted all the other people who have made claims together with the same lawyer using very tenuous evidence like 'the room was dark', or 'the house was kept cold', as well as including false evidence such as traceable off the internet photos claiming to be their personal imagery. This is not a good sign. She also tried to co-opt other women who in turn have said they like Manson. So there seems to be something more to this. And in times when Amber Heard (a friend of ERW) has made such damming claims against Johnny Depp, only to have each thing be exposed as lies time and again. I think its time to really tread very carefully. Things like this need to be investigated, there needs to be police involved. ERW is no saint either, no meek lamb in the woods, as she now presents herself. So without some evidence we only get her curated presentation.
I agree, not very credible. ERW also posed as an FBI agent to "gather evidence" from other women. A federal crime.
I believe her, all the things they say about MM are credible, I was his fan, and I felt like I know him, and I know him even better now after his ex girlfriends told us their story, he really is a very abusive person, not only with his girlfriends but other people too had some bad stories to tell about him...
@@luisaritosa9700 To each their own. Im interested in cold hard facts and evidence, which undermine ERW and Gore. Once people show as a matter of fact that they are untrustworthy or have lied in connection with making claims on another person. Then I don't believe such accusations as presented. ERW to me is now in the position of having to prove why she lied about a number of things, including being party to a federal crime. Everything else is merely a story that she has presented into the public hemisphere, and keenly wants people to take at face value.
@@aboutface7961 was it proved ? The accusations Manson made about ERW and her partner? No it wasn't ..So where are your proven facts?
@@Vivi-vg9lx Or.. was it proved ? The accusations ERW and her co-opted conspirators made about Manson. No. These women have put MM in the position generating a burden of proof. Meaning he has the burden in a defamation trial to obtain the proof against their claims. They can sit back and bat it all away. So you can stake a claim on some of MMs evidence in part once his lawsuit enters the California system with a greenlight, which it is has yet to do. Consider however that he is accusing them of a federal crime against the FBI. My guess is it would be a crime unto itself to make such an accusation on record against another party in law, and expect there not to be repercussions, and i doubt any lawyer would take his case if he were making false claims of this kind to build a case on ERW and co. Yet MM is making such a claim. It suggests that what evidence he has on them building a hoax is solid. Again, especially if his case is accepted by CA legal system. From ERWs perspective. This will be her opportunity now to put her case against MM into the court as well. So id assume if she has real bad stuff on MM, it will be good for her to put these things into the legal domain. Instead of twitter or such things
When I first saw the title, I was worried that this would be an analysis of the veracity of her claims. Instead, This was an amazingly insightful look at sexual abuse and the mental health ramifications. You treated her claims with the seriousness and dignity that aIl people who make these allegations deserve. It seems clear that you have a lot of experience dealing with survivors. And even though your tone was very professional and calm, I could feel the compassion that you have for her and anyone else who has gone through this.
So, what your saying is your happy someone did not question if she was gas lighting MM and the public for fame and profit like all the other Hollywood nut jobs out there.
Here are my thoughts: This story just goes to show you can’t judge a book by its cover. Marilyn Manson is literally the last person I would think of who would be involved in S&M and tying up sex partners and biting sex partners. When Evan started dating him, I’m sure she thought she was getting a clean-cut dude who enjoyed gardening and yoga and playing tennis. And to think this guy was secretly a freak. Evan was really tricked.
@@wildmercuryfilms true you can't judge a book by its cover we don't know that she wasn't gaslighting him and for her to walk into a relationship not knowing I call b******* she was doing the same stuff. It's technically the same old story nice Catholic school girl meets extremely bad man. What was that old song "she met him at the candy store, he rode a motorcycle." I call b*******, she accepts no responsibility for her part in her relationship.
@@wildmercuryfilms lol
As a SA survivor, I almost didn’t watch this video just because of potential triggers. However, I truly appreciated Dr. Grande’s sincere compassion and understanding. I cried buckets.
As a disabled surviver, I try to talk about these types of things online. It’s never easy, it’s essentially reliving it over and over again- but abuse and assault cannot ever be forgotten no matter how much people try to. I don’t speak on others behalf, and honestly in a way not my own because there is no gratification in being called a liar or told that “it’s not that bad” or that “I should have known better” so many times over. I speak because no matter how painful it is to do so, we cannot pretend it doesn’t happen. Thank you for speaking about the subject, and I appreciate your respectfulness very much.
Thank you for sharing
May all that is good bless you in your journey and everlasting light fill your heart for all to see.
Oh, yeah, the good ole YoU aRe an aDuLt, yOu shOulD kNow to aVoiD thEse sItuAtions. Thanks, mate. Fucking hell. Thank you for being so brave in talking about it. You’re a strong person )
My male cousin told me I deserved it 🤔
Electra Solstice ❤I'm sorry to hear of your abuse! Not only does my heart brake 😢hearing this I find myself having a visceral reaction. I want to beat them up! Although I would never act on such feelings. I'm not a violent person. Please know that I'm not the only person outraged by the story of your abuse. And bought to tears. 💕 Electra Solstice
I think it's quite dangerous and unprofessional to give your 'opinion' on open legal cases. 1) What do you think of Manson's recent lawsuit, backed up with documents, that ERW impersonated an FBI agent while contacting women to join her cause. One of the women who was contacted blew the whistle and said Evan was coaching her testimony 2) What do you think of the fact that ERW has provided no physical evidence of the abuse she endured, 3) What do you think of the fact that her testimony about being raped on camera while shooting a video was contested by all the production people who were there in the room and said they didn't see it happen.
I have no idea whether her story is true or not, and neither do you, Dr. Todd. That's up for a court to decide.
I am surprised that Dr Grande gave a one sided podcast. And somewhat disappointed. I agree with all your comments and i thank you for having the courage to do so.
I am conflicted about putting a sentence on someone based only on allegiations. I feel strong support for abuse victims, I wish there was a law that would castrate notorious sex offender, especialy those who abuse children. When I spoke to a friend about MM and ERW situation he gave me a bit of perspective that I cannot shake from my head. He showed a story from Australia where a man lost everything and was put to jail for abusing his wife. Everything checked out, everybody saw him as this horrible abuser. Then a female detective got assigned and she started uncovering that the woman was a pathological liar who in the past falsley accussed her friend's father. She started debunking lie after lie and finaly after years of legal battles in court, the woman admitted she wanted to take over the house the guy has built for them and his family big savings. He was released but his life is in ruins, his family spent all they had for his defense and are now broke. It really shook me to my core how such thing is totaly possible yet in my mind I never allowed myself to think that cause I never heard of such cases before. I really hope some evidence will come up to back up ERW claims cause I feel disturbed right now as I voiced strong support for her against Manson and if evidence will come forward that they were lies then I dont even know what to think of myself...
Well evidence just came forward that her story was a lie😤. If u want to hear about another case of a woman lying about everything from repeated DV and SA, look into the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard case. It’s another example of how a man almost lost everything due to lies and false accusations. The thing about that case is that Heards lies are so easily debunked, but people (although not a lot of people) still believe her. Sad.
@@marybodnar4749 yeah I just read the document that MM have shared. The story that was presented there on how Wood and Gore created a whole conspiracy was truly horrifying. I now honestly believe them to be liars so when I look back at the video of this guy here I would urge him to also get a look at that document and maybe "reanalyse" if he still thinks that she was a victim of abuse cause just it seems she is just a good actor who can pretend how to look a victim. When you know from a huge medical records of how victims behave it is not so hard to "give" the doctor what he is looking for.
I read MM's autobiography a couple of years ago (not a fan, just have an interest in the evolving new music scenes in Britain and the U.S.). He was very forthright about his exploits, the humiliation and manipulation he heaped on young people drawn to his outrageous persona, and his belief that victims of his abuse and degradation should feel grateful he spent any time with them at all. I was hoping there would come a point in his tale where he had an epiphany about his behavior, but when he did (sort of -- not really) it was only a realization that he had to watch out more for his own business interests and not drain his resources so much. Rachel's story is believable for many reasons, not the least of which is that MM himself brags for a couple hundred pages about doing vile and disrespectful things to other humans. She's well quit of him, and I hope she can heal and surround herself with loving, caring people.
Yeah. I was mm fan and read the autobiography and it showed a really disturbing side of him, a really self-involved, arrogant, narcissistic, side. There wasnt a moment where he would have anything positive to say about other people. Instead he constantly put people down, belittled and humiliated them. Top that with the graphic descriptions of abuse which he not only commited alone but with his band members, tour crew and members of nin, including reznor himself who is depicted engaging in abusive behaviour by himself too. Theres no sugarcoating of it either except maybe some handwaving towards hedonistic rock n roll lifestyle.
@@hhdhpublic Reznor said that part of the story was fake and that it was just to "bring him down"
He cut ties with him long ago over it.
He left a quote about manson in 2009. About how malicious he is and that he'll do anything to get to the top
Manson got away with a lot because he is so well known as a shock artist. So people expected him to do and say schocking things, and didn't take it seriously. I think a lot of people also felt sorry for him for being blamed for Columbine. He's been somewhat quiet in recent years, too. He's like that spider in the dark corner that everyone just accepts or forgts about.
shocking* forgets* sorry about the errors
I think I might get some angry responses for this so I say it in advance: not trying to make excuses for MM or blaming anyone, rather a warning.Well, a pretty pointless warning for you, anyway... It's a serious topic. I get it and I don't know much about sexual abuse or manipulation and it's affection but all the rest of what broken relationships can put you through.
But. If you read his book(I did as well) you should really think twice or more before you get any closer to him. It's really upfront what you can expect from him. Let's just say he's not a good father type.
I'm really surprised how did he managed to get relationships lasting so long.
Anyway..I really do hope Rachel and all the women can heal and leave behind all those horrible experiences.
As a childhood sexual abuse survivor, 58 years old and still struggling with depression, I can attest to the long term, life-time damage of sexual abuse. Yes, we can survive and choose not to be victims but it's a scar that forever changes us and never leaves us. Love and power to all other survivors.❤❤❤
I hear you. Love and light to you. I'm 56 years old and just now starting to actually hold my head up.
Me too . I'm fixing to be 54 the first time it happened I was 15 , I remember now , but I used to think I was 14 but I just turned 15.
@@steveedward7572 Who are you asking?
I am 55 and am beginning to realize that early sexual abuse set me up to accept more of it in my life that I blocked out but came back to me later. I'm okay, but I think it all had an effect on me. I was also 19 when I was having issues with my mental health and was homeless and an older personality disordered man took over my life for a while and there was lots of abuse. I have PTSD now from many thing, not just sexual abuse. I try and deal with anxiety every day.
@@catherinewylie6959 I understand, and I'm here for you. Truly. Anytime anyone who needs a shoulder, i have more than one, and I'll always find the time if you need it. That goes for anyone!
I feel so many people love using the terms “narcissist” and “gas lighting”.
Many of them just ‘average’ day to day people who have seen a few UA-cam videos then think they’ve suddenly got a PhD.
I don’t mean the Dr in this case, I’m just pointing out a general point of notice.
Also, a person can study things and know how tell a story.
Not in the way of a book but like in the case of AH, she started telling her dr stories about Johnny over many years.
How he beat her, raped her, verbally abused her etc
All gently laying the foundations to eventually lead up to the crescendo of the TRO etc
Always assume that both are innocent until full details are out and laid bare.
Thank you, well said. Innocent until proven guilty.
100%. We need to stop destroying people before we even know everything. There are so many videos out there about how ERW is exactly like AH and everyone wants to destroy her without even hearing the facts. In my opinion, AH is on her own level in terms of being a horrible person with severe personality disorders, and I can't imagine that ERW is exactly like her... But with that said, I am withholding judgement until I hear all the facts. It's very possible that MM is insanely abusive and it's very possible that he's not.
@@C.L.190 Well said.
@@annamariam1077 Haven't at least 4 women he had relationships said similar things? Nothing will ever be proven, but when many people describe similar behavior, it does serve as corroboration.
You don't need a PHD to understand concepts like gaslighting and narcissism. Although I think narcissism is more misunderstood and generally what people seem to mean by "narcissist" are people with inflated egos who can't take criticism and always deflect blame.
Thank you for this. I am married to a narcissist and it’s been 6 years of hell in earth. Rape in marriage is different but the psychological and emotionally consequences are still terrifying. Everyone around me blamed me and he seemed to keep a great mask on while I reacted to the abuse in ways that landed me in jail for the night. I even thought I was the one with a personality disorder turns out it was C-PTSD! My therapist is the one person who I know hears me. I am quietly building the strength to have boundaries and I know there will come an opportunity for me to escape…but for now I escape in my mind and get stronger and smarter.
Rape in marriage is no less devastating than any other. You do not hand over your bodily autonomy to someone in marriage, your boundaries need to be respected and you sure as hell do not owe "sex" to anyone ever. I hope you find the strength to leave. Remember you have so much support behind you even when it doesn't seem like you do. ❤️
Jesus loves you I'm so sorry your going through that.
Get the f out of this situation. NOW
Wonderful! Never look back.
Run away from the narcissist. Never look back❤
It’s almost worse because the person you marry is meant to love, nurture you and protect you from harm, as you would them. A huge betrayal and horrific to come to terms with.
To any sexual abuse survivors, you've got this! Everyday is a chance to bring happiness and each time will make the next easier to enjoy. Know you are worthy of love and joy just as much as anyone on this planet so take it with both hands!!
Thanks. And I don’t believe her. She must need money or something. Be relevant. Attention.
I’ve follow MM and his ex wife has come out to put things straight.
@@ivonned32 Just because he didn't abuse his ex doesn't mean he wouldn't abuse others.
Thank you Belize! Ditto! ❤ I AM an abuse survivor and I absolutely believe her. Just because someone is talented and has a following doesn't make them unable to abuse a woman. I recognize that there are men wrongfully accused of abuse, but I don't think MM is one of them. I believe her for the very reasons Dr. Grande pointed out in this video. I know firsthand how I dealt with my past abusive relationship, and her actions are very similar to what mine were. No one will ever know what happened between the two of them privately but them. However I see alot of parallels between my story and hers, and that is not something that is easy to fake.
@@ivonned32 just stop. I was a fan too. But automatically not believing her and accusing her of all that is gross. Very few ppl lie about this.
Here are my thoughts: This story just goes to show you can’t judge a book by its cover. Marilyn Manson is literally the last person I would think of who would be involved in S&M and tying up sex partners and biting sex partners. When Evan started dating him, I’m sure she thought she was getting a clean-cut dude who enjoyed gardening and yoga and playing tennis. And to think this guy was secretly a freak. Evan was really tricked.
As a school psychologist, this resonates so deeply with my professional experience. I got chills listening to the summary. My thoughts are with every survivor.
What if she’s lying?
I think more school shrinks should stand up, & be vocal when a female teacher sexually assaults their male students. We see too many female teachers who get away with committing statatory r@pe, when the victim is a male student, & what's worse if she gets pregnant, she can have the courts further victimize her victim with child support payments.
Her documentary was absolutely horrific. I felt ill for days afterwards. I cant even begin to imagine how she must feel having lived it. Thank you for handeling it with such thoughtful care and compassion.
You realise she lied and is being sued for it?
Just for fact, Evan wrote and produced that documentary. I don’t know who is telling the truth, but there are so many opinions before the trial, that it twists thinking. I’ll wait until after the trial to decide. I definitely won’t base my decision on a documentary produced by either of them. Dr, please remember you are evaluating expert performers. Both of them are very intelligent and gifted at their crafts. It is the elephant in the room.
HBO should be ashamed, this is a hoax and that channel is perpetuating the hoax
She's lying and all the documents are showing that.
Ummm…it was. She was sued before it even came out. Remember an actress.
Never forget that "Innocent until proven guilty" is how the courts work. " Guilty until proven innocent" is how social media works.
And gere we are 4 months later and we now know that Evan and her gf has lied about all of this for financial gain. They impersonated an fbi agent and commited fruad.
@@thatoneguy378 Yup. Hope this one sends the right message across... for a change.
The principle of being considered innocent until proven guilty is how the courts work, but ONLY how the courts work. We in the public square have absolutely no obligation to believe a rapist is telling the truth about assaulting women. In fact, even when rapists are taken to court, the majority of them get away with their crimes, so it's actually the victims who are "guilty until proven guilty" - both in the court AND in the public square. So step off your high horse, please. manson is a rapist.
@@brandybobandy2194 "So step off your high horse, please. manson is a rapist.". Stepping off of our high horse would make talking with you up in your ivory tower rather difficult.
You don't know that MM raped anyone. You have no reason to believe a thing ERW alledges. You have no basis of which to come to any well informed conclusion. If you were at all intellectually honest, you'd realize that this whole debacle is a giant He Said, She said. Wait for this to be taken to trial. Allow EWR and MM to present their cases and then form an opinion. Siding with someone in cases like this prior to knowing as many facts as possible is very ill advised. People have been executed due to bad standards in the judical system. I think I speak for most when I say mistakes like that, no matter how fatal or not, are things we'd all want to avoid.
@@jeffreymercado2082 youre giving your OPINION just like everyone else. there is NO evidence that Marilyn Manson did anything like that. as a matter of fact, MOST of the people in Evan and Manson's live are on Mansons side. Evan Rachel Wood is emotionally and mentally disturbed. Her own family has admitted this.
When you stated sexual abuse starts mentally that really hit home. I remember in high school I was trying to articulate to my parents why I didn’t want to be around my ex boyfriend who would constantly show up at my house, job and events I went to... and my mother said to me it’s not like he raped you. I was 17 I’m almost 36 now and I have yet to seek real help for this. My experiences with him really have affected me through the rest of my life especially since not even my own parents acknowledged the manipulative behavior I was subjected to and the future stalking I would endure.
I’m sorry you had to suffer through that.
That sucks
Every woman is a "victim" these days.🙄
Hi tiff @ co. That's my daughters name.. I just wanted to share this with you as a fellow survivor. Let.THEM live with their sin, shame guilt.. whatever you want to call it. Shake it off YOUR shoulders. I'm sure you have done your own things that you dont like.. deal with them. They were your choice. Things done TO YOU, not the same. Dont entertain those thoughts because it will always give the oppressor power over you. You deal with what you had choice over..let them deal.with what they did. On the day they die, it will come to them. One day at a time is the best advice I have.. because you can only live one day at a time. Yesterday is gone.. tomorrow is based on how you feel today. Hope you have somebody to love you today. Keep your thoughts, in today. Bad people do bad things. You didnt do them.. be happy.
@@deansley174 no. Some of us are survivors, and we go on to met wonderful men. They are out there.. the bar is not so high once you get out of the bad stuff. Kindness is all you want, really. Abuse sucks, but it does put things into perspective.
I still think about my sexual assault everyday. I have a horrible fear of men and bad substance abuse problems even after 5 years. No one I know understands this, but thank you for talking about it! Love you dr grande
Have you ever thought about mushrooms for ptsd and addiction treatment?
My roommate and I also have a fear of men. It's hard to get over. Doing mma and getting a gun has helped me feel a little safer. I want a dog too.
@@Ray.5446. yesss that is what i’m planning for when i live on my own
@@laurenm7898 my brothers dog is so well trained. I love her. She is overprotective of his new born. And she helps calm my brother down when he has ptsd episodes from deploying in the military. She will lay on top of him and cuddle when she notices him start to get really bad anxiety.
@@Ray.5446. dogs are god
There has been one woman who said her identity was used and that she did not say or write that she was a victim.. Also there has been a letter who was used a fake letter. I am now going to reserve my judgement untill the trial which I hope will be televised. But She also said that he jailed her for days. I dont know. I have been in domestic abuse.
What are we arriving at: That anyone can say anything about anyone. This is the result of our social media victim entitlement age. I was a victim of SA and I have PTSD....but I also know that "free speech" does not mean I can just accuse anyone of a serious crime w/o anything to back it up. I hope ERW gets emotional support and help, and I hope that if these allegations are true that she can get some relief. But I also believe we are entering into a "Stalinistic" type of environment....with people guilty w/o the benefit of our constitutional right to due process and a fair trial if required. TV and internet coverage is not helping this...it is fueling the fire. We all better be careful.
I agree. It's disturbing that everyone believes her when she is clearly not credible and the likelihood of this being a hoax is pretty high.
Thank you for discussing this topic. It’s so important to remind the world that domestic abuse in any form should no ever be brushed off.
I agree that the tactics of narcissists needs to become common knowledge. It just is allowed to continue because so few people even know what it is.
@Angela James I didn't know anything about it until I saw it described years and decades after being subjected to it. I knew *something* had been wrong. Others knew *something* had been wrong. But especially those other people's explanations fell vastly short or were just incorrect.
It's far worse when you're a child growing up in such an environment, where your family is your enemy, & by proxy, everyone else, because your family is so heavily favored by the community, & they manipulate it against you.
Correct
We need much more than that. We need the thinking equivalent of MMA (the best general moves for mentally fighting) taught to every teenager. Then we can have the first generation that isn't totally fucked up.
Agreed. One of the main tactics being a mask of charming goodness... Thus the do-gooder defamation phenomenon. People who act good to get trust then take advantage cause suspicion towards anyone falling over themselves in a desperate need to help. It is not so strange.
One of your most educative & powerful videos! Thank you! Much appreciated ❤️
Dr. Todd needs to do an update to this story. Evidence is pointing to them clearly recruiting women to come out against Manson. Woods and her partner (a social activist who has had many outed lies) literally had a script given to these women, so indeed what she says is a little too on point.
Yes, but it probably won't happen. I sensed some disdain towards Manson coming from this guy and I'm not blindingly supporting Manson or anything but whatever happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'? Guess people haven't learned much from that Depp-Heard fiasco.
There signs have always been there. Don't be so gullible.
@@StickJockeyFPV 'There sings...'? What do you even mean? 'Their sings...'? Whose sings? Both Manson and Wood's? What signs were always there? I might be gullible for not automatically throwing Manson to the dogs and leaving it to the law but you typed that comment like a person who can barely string a sentence together.
@@henrygrandpagobbleblobber6751 You better get those bifocals checked, gramps. Why are you saying "sings"? I never used that word. I did however use the word 'There" instead of "The". Give it a read again with that correction. I'm surprised you thought the whole sentence structure was off.
@@StickJockeyFPV Touché! I'm a victim of my arrogance and fully admitting it. But seriously, can I ask about what you meant by 'signs'? I'm humbled now.
We all as fans, tend to put our beloved musicians and/or actors on pedestals. But they need to be seen as humans capable of not only great things, but of demented and evil behaviors. And they need to be called out immediately for harm intended or completed, not hidden or whisked away just to save their careers. Nothing trumps being sexually abused.
As a true fan. Think again!
In the early 1990s, Axl Rose told "Rolling Stone" that he was raped by his father when he was a young child, which his siblings denied happened to them at the very least. I wrote for a zine (remember those?) and most people's responses, even ones who had no use for their music, were things like "Too bad his father is dead; I'd like to kick the bastard in the balls with steel-toed boots" and "I believe it; nobody gets that crazy growing up in the Brady Bunch."
It's true. I can tell you Ryan Adams, the musician, is a real piece of work. Very abusive, narcissistic. I personally know this.
@@dirtysanchez941 spill the beans please.
I've never had this issue. I don't put people with a skill I don't have "on a pedestal". My issue here is that there is a whole HEAP of accusations, and literally zero evidence to back it up. This has become the "norm" lately, where an accusation is just as good as an indictment and a conviction to the torch and pitchfork crowd. And god help you if you actually mention that there is no evidence....then, out ride the whiteknights on their fedora laden steeds to screech stupid shit like "YOU'RE THE REASON NO ONE COMES FORWARD!!!!"....yes, how dare I expect ACTUAL FUCKING EVIDENCE to ruin someone's life. What a monster I must be.
Until someone provides some ACTUAL PROOF, not hearsay from idiot musicians who haven't been relevant in 10 years desperately trying to get in the woke, virtue signaling spotlight for another 15 minutes of fame (looking at you, Wes Borland), then I'm calling this bullshit.
i still think it's sick that he literally wrote an entire book discussing how he abused groupies
Imagine what he has done that he won't admit to if he admits to all of that shit.
@@Thewriter317 ikr
I read his autobiography and have never been able to bob my head to his music, since
@@8thhousemoonrabbit205 same here
They believe what they do is subversive and cool. "Retro."
They're F'd up...
This was the single best explanation of the abuser/victim dynamic I have ever heard. Thank you Dr Grande.
Thank you for this Dr. G. Abuse survivors are often treated as though they speak up for publicity, money, etc. To hear you explain how many times you've heard legit clients say the same things is very helpful. And it explains all the questioning of "Why didn't you come forward sooner?" Ty for covering this topic!
Abuse survivors don't speak up for money, sadly scammers do and clout chasers like Jussie Smollett do.
We need to be aware and we just need to do what we do for everyone else , allow examination of evidence and the sub class of evidence that is testimony
I agree totally with the psychological part of sexual assaults. They start slowly and the perpetrators do make you feel safe for awhile. Unfortunately there are still people who believe the sexual abuse can just be forgotten but you never forget or put it somewhere in tucked away to comeany years later. This was one of your best presentations Thank-you so much💞🇨🇦
I did. I was fortunate enough to have parents that did continually act like something bad happened, thus make me feel guilty over anything.
I greatly admire people who speak up after having suffered sexual abuse. I am a survivor who never felt safe enough to open up about it. This happened in my youth. I am 66 and I am still affected by it. Thankyou Dr. Grande for addressing this painful topic.
sending love to you. you’re so strong & I’m happy you’re alive. :-)
The problem is that she is likely a false accuser and the architect of a massive MeToo hoax.
This video made me realize I need to address my own account with sexual abuse. I endured it for years and once it stopped I still couldn't process it which lead me to doing a lot of self destructive things in response to the abuse. People around me just shrug it off and tell me I will get over it eventually, because the present allows us to move past those things. But I don't believe I'll be able to move past it until I address it correctly and seek the help I need
Just watching this one again. Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom, Dr Grande. Your work really is important.
"The time to support a survivor coming forth is ... ALWAYS."
Simple, and powerful.
Yessss
When hearing a woman describe sexual abuse, often what they say just "rings true". Having you explain specifically WHY you believe Evan Rachel Wood based on your experience makes the examples you gave very concrete in my mind. Thank you Dr. Grande
He meant the pattern of psychological abuse, it’s standard.
I didn’t really hear any concrete examples. This entire story and analysis was nothing but abstract. I’m sure Evan Rachel Wood is being honest, if a professional senses that, but “sexual abuse” is kind of a vague allegation. We can’t really know what Manson’s being accused of without seeing the 2011 police report. It might be more helpful if Dr. Grande actually provided concrete examples of boundary crossing, gaslighting, or things we might see in potential abusers.
@@Catlady-mw4en several women have accused him of biting hard enough to draw blood. watch "jenna jameson on the howard stern show", for examples of what his specific deal is. its tricky in cases where someone's behavior is far outside normal boundaries, but when the abuser is open and honest about things, it begs the question, "was it abuse if she was well aware of what she was getting into"?.
Weak to mess with Mr. Manson
@@ice-iu3vv omg, what the hell? I’ll look for that interview. The key is consent, though, IMO. To me, abuse requires a lack of consent or intimidation.
Your calm, thoughtful words made me cry. It's so hard to open up about this stuff. And if you do and someone shuts you down, it can make you feel violated all over again. Thank you for all that you said.
i cried when dr grande said its a lonely jorney, i was not a victim , but this speech was very compassionate i actually began to understand how manipulation can be so sneaky that victims may stay years before they grasp that they are gtting abused , which makes it very difficult to expect empathy and they start to feel trapped, its awful,,what a an amazing hearftfelt speech , my heart goes out to all victims may you all heal and be happy again, ure so strong, and dr grande thank you so much for this video.
A narcissist doesn't see things like non narcissists do. They don't acknowledge what they did was abuse because they don't see anything from anyone's viewpoint but their own. It is the most insidious and difficult type of abuse to escape and nearly impossible for people outside the relationship to grasp. The narcissist is charming, convincing, and lives to lie and deceive everyone who loves them. People are possessions, to be used and discarded at the narcissist's whim. Another example of how talent and basic human decency can often be wholly unrelated.
Only people who have experienced it can understand properly. You just described it perfectly. The last decade of my life until very recently were a nightmare due to these monsters. I think I finally am free and clear but they can pop up anywhere. Be vigilant people!! This is life or death.
No one cares
You described my mother to a T
You really contradicted yourself. Narcissist’s can definitely understand many people’s viewpoints other than their own. That’s why they’re so appealing, they know how to push your buttons. But that’s why they’re also so dangerous generally.
It's really confusing when you love one, because you give them the benefit of the doubt.
No one deserves abuse.
That's a fact.
If I didn't want to be abused, I'd follow basic instincts and avoid characters like Marilyn Manson.
@@anonymousanomaly9538 his pr team begged to differ
@@anonymousanomaly9538 that sounds a bit like victim blaming.....
@@anonymousanomaly9538 Let's not victim blame.
@@rosierose5996 personal responsibility> excuses
Thank you Dr Grande. I also wish the general public would have knowledge of blatant narcissistic abuse. It's insidious and below the radar. Thank you so much for exposing this horrible abuse 🙏
Thank you so much for validating Evan Rachel Woods experience based on clinical psychology facts. The facts don't lie. Thank you so much for supporting us victims!
@@heatherroberson1648 no facts here, only lies
Evans abuse?
There is no evidence 😂😂 Evan’s a lying pos
As right as you are, there’s also the fact that gold diggers are as real as SA perpetrators, which should have been equally talked about in such a discussion. The Johnny Depp Amber Heard trial is merely the latest prominent example. Many of us have known this since way before their trial.
Add to it that there are a lot of very suspicious things going on around ERW and her allegations
Yes
People have very weird ideas about accusations with celebs , saying nobody would accuse for the clout they could gain, nobody would lie for the money they can get from interviews and books
Ive heard of some great thought experiments e.g. when you have a group of accusers E.g. against Manson or Cosby, leave your wallet in the middle of a room with these people with your savings in that wallet in the form of cash for an hour.
It's like people don't realise that hitmen exist, that people accept money to assault people and murder people
Of COURSE people will make sexual or abuse accusations for the fame and money, the mere fact that weird hashtags like BelieveAllVictims exist is evidence of the benefits for a malicious person willing to fabricate a claim.
That hashtag is key evidence of our rejection of due process, the word "Victim" Already judges a case and renders the accuser a truthful "victim" and the accused party to a dishonest "perpetrator"
In the same way Jussie Smollett sought to steal sympathy and get his name in headlines to boost his wealth the same angle should be considered for other actors accusing bigger actors or musicians
How much would their own career benefit from making a fake accusation and being somewhat believed the second they uttered it publically?
Okay incel.
True, but Johnny did not have one other woman claiming abuse...NOT ONE. MM has three others...THAT speaks volumes to me.
@@JD-Defenders at first it did me too, then I started to look into it more. On the surface, more seems more likely, then you realize that none claimed anything prior to ERW and IG contacting them and then they “ remembered” all these repressed memories. All are needing a career reboot and a few claims were already dismissed and none have any actual evidence. No police reports, pictures, nothing… Just memories they came up with after meeting with ERW and IG
As a sexual abuse survivor myself, I really appreciate your thoughts on this topic. I feel seen and understood. Especially when you said it’s a lonely journey- because it really is.
Good point I dont belive Evan yet I was physically abused not sexually.
It doesn’t have to be. Check SIA and ACA
I hope you are doing better wishing you all the best
The journey of victims of false accusations is even lonelier, in fact, far, far lonelier, yet you seem to have little empathy for them.
If you want victims to be supported, you have to take a stand against false accusers and Evan Rachel Wood likely is one.
Dr. Grande, this is a video that every woman and man, young and old, needs to watch. I wonder how many people have chosen to remain silent after they have been sexually/emotionally/physically abused? Any experience of being abused is serious, and I think there are many people who feel like their experience is not worthy of receiving help, or they are not worthy of receiving help. I hope all victims will find the courage to tell their story.
💐Those are very kind words, glad you posted them.
Telling my story does me no help at all. Only being ostracized is what will happen, unless your rich then people will offer to help for a large fee. This is reality no one cares about you, they only care for themselves and how they feel about you. Sooner we realize this the sooner we can understand that we genuinely need to help others so we can feel better about ourselves. Then we have a chance of moving forward.
Do not me every person in that category, this is crap, I have worked with to many women, that have screamed,false rape, false pregnancy, I have also seen drunk women refer and call it rape,when they be the ones hanging on them, and doing the naked table dance. 2 sides to every storey. Hollywood is dying and she needs attention, is how it comes across at this point.
@biokittie thank you I was not talking about rape.
@@cathieb123 let me guess you are a huge fan? So are you just wishing you can be the next victim?
i know this comment is on the heels of the video being made a year ago ... but i wanted to say how important it is to have an understanding compassionate and truthful view on the strength and recovery of the survivor but also describing the insidiousness of how the abuse can be so subtle at first . gaslighting is the one major trait that is noticed in escalating abuse on victims. i am so glad to hear how supportive you were of your clients trauma and recovery ... i hope you never stop having this compassionate side no matter what. its priceless in a world that victim blames too much and leaves the victim survivor without any justice . i hope that all survivors of that persons abuse gets help and can support each others recovery .. it shows not all celebrities are Above normal human life experiences . we all have a story to tell.
How about the trauma suffered by victims of false accusations? That's the case here, the real victim is Manson.
I am a victim of CSA and now have pretty debilitating PTSD. This video is true in a heartbreaking way. I'm lucky that my spouses family is so supportive and loving. I cut off contact with my family recently because they continued to defend the abuser (a direct family member). I worry a lot about how many other kids my abuser violated and if they'll ever be brought to justice. Thanks for this video, Dr. Grande. It's nice to see good information on this.
Ummmm, just because M Manson doesn’t think he’s an abuser doesn’t make it so. So many of these types of offenders are so good at gaslighting and have so much money that they think they can offend with impunity.
And just because someone says she’s a victim doesn’t make it so.
@@waltzingpeter i dunno, todays atmosphere says otherwise... im probably willing to get a camera implanted in my forehead recording my every move
I honestly think it can happen where someone is getting abused by reasonable standards, but since they complied the entire time, the abuser sees it as consenting to the "alternative lifestyle" and honestly doesn't see how they're abusing them.
@@Lady.Luck. .... you dont "get with" Marylin Manson and not expect weird shit.... i mean, cooome on, people act as if rape fantasies and BDSM werent a bestselling novel and box office hit movie a few years ago.... its all anyone would talk about, and almost every female i knew watched the movie.... its almost like the Hollywood couch cast, its wrong, but both parties agree, they both know if they do this they get that, .... and now, they did it, got it, and THEN point a finger.... i guess we could say yea, it serves Hollywood right for being a creep, but its not like they werent an active participant.... they knew, ...she knew, she knows.... you dont hang out with Manson if youre not into weird shit
@@fattyjaybird7505 i know man, victimhood is a livelyhood, just be careful with crazies. Give your balls a tug
You hit the nail on the head Dr. Grande, so much abuse could be avoided if people knew how to identify and then deal with a narcissistic abuser. Most cases of adult abuse would be stopped...unfortunately child abuse is more complicated.
Abusers seek those whose capacity will not initially recognize abuse for what it is. They are talented in this.
People make bad choices in relationships, and we must let them.
@@craigbenz4835 I agree. My friend said one of the priests that was arrested and went to jail for sexual child abuse was in his church for 5yrs or more. He said he was never abused. I told him predators pick their victims wisely. My friend would of told everyone of the abuse. That's why he wasn't targeted. The usually can tell who they can abuse and get away with it.
what are the causes of child abuse?
Well said! It is so terrible child or adult. I would work in a professional capacity helping victims but I have to say it is just too heartbreaking to see what it does to people. My gift is listening and watching for the signs.
To be fair Doc just taking this girls word for it is dangerous, everything she is saying you yourself know so does that mean the same things have happened to you, she could be gaslighting you right now.
The forged falsified FBI letters make me question everything from her and the thing that helped her. The thing's sister actually came forth w evidence left on the iPad ie rough drafts of the letter and EW's convos regarding the letter and forged signature.
@@miaknig3130 Surely that's enough to put her in jail, I'm pretty sure forging FBI letters is against the law
@@patriciaburns1033 exactly. At the v least, it negates any credibility. Then all the lies that she stated to kidnap her kid and take him out of state, the notepad which had "money " as the primary reason to make a documentary, the multiple choice survey sent to anybody who was involved w Warner, the scripted answers that she told the other recruited accusers to say... Even if the allegations had a single true claim, she and Gore are proven liars therefore shouldn't be believed at all.
Inasmuch as my wife and I have been enjoying so many of your videos and have come to appreciate your clear, concise analysis of complicated topics and controversial subjects, which you present in a refreshingly understated, balanced and respectful manner. Plus, your subtle, perhaps unexpected humor, makes the whole enterprise all the more watchable and engaging.
That being said, we were disappointed with your analysis and conclusions regarding ERW and the very serious allegations she is making against Marilyn Manson. I was expecting you to perhaps provide a timeline of events in order to compare and where possible, corroborate each of the litigants versions of events. Also, rather than laying out, examining and even testing specific allegations, testimony and other evidence, it seems like this video lacks the kind of rigorous due diligence and critical review we have come to expect from you. Also, it seems here that essentially you are merely positing that ERW self reports certain classic symptoms of SV or IPV. I was also hoping for some allowance for the possibility that the plaintiff may have researched typical symptoms and the most salient difficulties, after effects, behaviors, etc.
In any case, i understand MM has made his bed to the degree that he intends his MM persona to be a transgressive, confrontational, provocative figure, so in making his defense, he begins at somewhat of a self inflicted disadvantage. Serves him right since much of that aspect of his act is a little corny, age inappropriate and even a little lazy or limited, i.e., shocking in all the most unoriginal and uninteresting ways. However, Mr Warner’s likability issue only means that those of us hoping to make an accurate, useful analysis of the case must be extra vigilant against bias or prejudice.
Perhaps you would consider a more detailed explanation of why you find her claims to be credible or conversely, why you do not find his account as convincing as hers. Also, are there any indications that the plaintiff in this case may suffer from some mental illness or condition, eg., personality disorder, that might provide some insight into this he said she said situation. Anyone who claims to be the victim of abuse has the right to be heard and to confront their abuser; but their account also needs to stand up to scrutiny. Let’s not jeopardize the gains we have made via the #metoo movement by a failure to use our legal and societal institutions, our critical faculties, common sense and discernment in order to process these cases in an appropriate, judicious manner on the way to a fair, productive resolution. #AbuseHasNoGender
Unfortunately I wouldn't expect that, his covering of Amber Heard did the same thing even after she had testified.
It seems Dr. G has a weak spot for attractive young celebs. Almost like his discernment goes out the window when they open their mouths to speak.
In my experience, the physical part of sexual assault was far easier to get over than all the rest. The physical is not what keeps me waking up screaming after all these years. Always checking my back in the store or anywhere in public. Checking my doors are locked again and again. The emotional-mental part was much worse for me.
I've been through this too. I actually scream bloody murder in my sleep and it's always dreaming of my ex's holding me hostage
@@Lady.Luck. I always see the shadow of him the doorway, and every damn time I think it's real again. We have to be able to sleep again sometime right?
I also allowed it to define me. Then I changed my mind. They them deal with their sins.. I only have to deal with mine. And I stopped entertaining the though of it.. eventually. It took practice. You ladies in the comments should talk to each other. You all KNOW what the other is feeling. Together, you would all put it behind you. I am not saying you will forget, but you could certainly help each other live with it.. atb.
This analysis stands out as particularly compassionate.
Where do I find a therapist like you? I have complex PTSD, among other things, and my experience with therapists has been abysmal. Everything you said here was more helpful than anything they ever said. Thank you.
Oh my god...20 yrs. of help from the VA and you are the first person to understand completely. Thank you for saying, expressing yourself with care and compassion.
I broke down crying listening to this compassionate talk and how it filled in details I had yet to come to terms with in my own series of abusive relationships. I was dismissed and devalued every time I came out with my own stories so I just stopped after time. Now i understand why, and why I cannot just get over what was done to me and other women in my family. Thank you for this.
is that cacti blooming? Dr Grande must be putting in as much effort into his plants as he does into his videos! Lovely
I bet he talks to them.
It's thriving in his desert dry humor!
@@mariee.5912 I bet he talks with them too, walks with them and cultivates plant 🪴 love? Lol
This is one of the best, most meaningful programs you've done. I'm saving the link.
You continue to do important work on your channel. Thank you for using social media the ways it should be used: to shine a light on difficult issues and to help those who have been wronged.
Diggin the mobile plants.
I love the old brick wall and the little consul table with the 2 plants on.
I think it’s also important to note that he didn’t really deny the allegations, he just stated that is was consensual.
But something along the line „I only love you when you do that“ is not asking/getting consent but emotional manipulation. Remember she was 18(!!) and he was 36, so he had a lot of power over her.
Also someone doing something fir their partner because they've been threatened isn't consent and neither is the person doing something because they are fearful of the negative and violent reaction if they don't.
SHE WAS 19 AND KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOING.
@@xcv1io2v do you think it's that easy to recognize an abuser from the start? If it was no-one would get into abusive relationships.
oh yes because 19 year olds are known for their maturity. She states that it all started when she was 17, which has been proven with pictures as by now. What makes an 19 year old a full developed adult? She wasn’t even allowed to drink alcohol!? Also, every person can fall victim to an abuser not matter the age. Stop victim blaming
Claiming that it’s consensual IS denying any abuse!
Thank you for your beautiful analysis of an extremely painful topic, Dr Grande
Would you please make a video regarding the new lawsuit Manson brought against Wood and her partner? The allegations are jaw dropping. Originally I believed Evan but Manson’s lawyers say they have all the receipts to back his claims.
She’s doing an Amber Heard and Wade Robson/James Safechuck number. How is it possible failing to at least MENTION the other side of the story? Even though Dr Grande didn’t know what has later come out, he has an obligation IMO to point out the fact that there was no evidence! I’m baffled.
when I acknowledged the abuse I suffered as a child, I lost my family over it, 10 years ago now. I can really relate the consequences she described. it's crushing when your deepest fear of being rejected over it comes true. I think I always knew it would happen because my mother ignored taking responsibility for the obvious signs of trauma I exhibited. her whole life is based in toxic amnesia and I couldn't live that way anymore. it's been undescribably devastating but at least I'm no longer trapped in an invalidating prison of cognitive dissonance.
I’m glad you acknowledged it ♥️ it sounds like such a painful journey.
You're so right, it never gets easier to talk about past sexual abuse especially when you start a new romantic relationship. Trying to explain to a potential partner that there are certain things you can't or won't do during intercourse is always hard and can lead to further distrust if that partner isn't understanding. A lot of survivors don't know how to talk about sexual boundaries and we often have flashbacks during sexual encounters which can be traumatic on it's own. Thank you so much for talking about this subject it's really important to me and I know many others
Not to mention the shame you feel for setting those boundaries. For other people it's normal and no big deal to do those things but you don't want to put yourself in that same situation again. I know we shouldn't feel shame but when no one else seems to have a problem with those things you feel alone and ashamed.
Props. Thank you for the video and talking about abuse. It's a conversation that needs to happen more. We all come from some type of abuse that unfortunately can define you for life with proper healing.
Insightful coverage Dr Grande. Thank you!
Scars last a lifetime...
Damage and recovery is long term...
You nailed it DR Grande...
It´s about time this guy had some kind of repercussion for all the messed up stuff he´s done to people. So many instances where there where victims who came forward but were ignored and harassed to the point of not wanting to speak anymore and everything kept getting swept under the rug. I enjoyed his music very much but I can´t stand musicians who brush off being a bad person as "an artistic persona" or for shock value.
Do you know what he's been accused of?
I never followed his work much, but whenever I saw him in interviews he was always portrayed as a brooding intellectual. This is the first I'm hearing any allegations; honestly thought he was one of the few "normals" that made it through the entertainment industry.
@@karin1741 Rose McGowan spoke up about it
@Melinda Bloomington8! Problem with a gut feeling is that sometimes it leads to stereotyping which in turn to distrust of certain groups of people. Depends on the individual I guess.
What? I haven’t heard anything about him abusing anyone until now!
Fun fact: I used to work w a girl who is friends w him. Her and her sister got pulled out of the crowd to go hang out backstage at one of his shows several years ago. Being a fan, she would have hooked up with him in a heartbeat, but because he was dating or married every time he came through town for a show (and they hung out) he never touched her. They did a lot of drugs apparently but she said he was a perfect gentleman, and not at all what you would expect from a rockstar, especially Marilyn Manson of all rockstars.
Anyway, that’s my 2 cents. Not saying he did or didn’t abuse ERW or anyone else, but let’s let the man have his legal process before jumping to conclusions.
The sad fact for real victims (and falsely accused) is that people DO lie about abuse sometimes. We should lean more towards belief but always demand facts/proof.
'Gaslighting' isn't a technical term. To hear a Dr say this is a powerful tool is alarming. No offense. I was violently Abused for almost 6 years. Yes, I knew. Yes, everyone around me knew. You don't at all acknowledge that most of Evan's & Manson's relationship occurred when he was on tour. Her parents attended many concerts, attended many after parties. He took her & her family on vacations including Disneyland. They had family holidays together. To say she was isolated while on tour, while spending time with her family, while working as a professional actress & in the eyes of the paparazzi 24/7. You haven't looked into any history.. you didn't care to look at any of her past interviews where she clearly states they had a normal loving relationship, where she spoke so highly of him. You don't seem to care about any of the crimes she & her scam artist GF have committed to falsely accuse Manson. I would assume someone with such a huge following would learn about the cases they are covering.
Tbh a lot of his content is biased and unprofessional
I definitely got that too, i usually like his videos but he really missed the mark with this one …
Unfortunately this analysis is, in my opinion, is very dangerous as it takes these accusations at face value. There are many facts in this case that need to be acknowledged, as she appears to be neither brave or a real victim. I encourage anyone interested in this case to find colonel Kurtz's channel as she interviewed other ex partners etc and reviews actual evidence. I rarely write comments but this content was ill informed
Sorry but Kurtz's analysis of Evan Rachel Wood is a rambling, self indulgent tangent, her other videos she calls "evidence" aren't really. Her "psychoanalysis" of ERW reveals plenty about herself. She shoulda stuck to Depp and Heard. MM isn't Johnny and ERW isn't anything like Heard. This is beyond CK's pay grade.
@@alliereesor115 I respect your opinion. I believe that this case to too complex, and this analysis is problematic. Court documents are starting to be released so it will be interesting to see what the actual FACTS say as opposed to opinion.
I agree. There’s a lot of information that has come out since this video. We need to be very careful not to make conclusions before all of the information comes out.
Exactly