(196)The Kongo Class Variant
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- In today's episode of Truth OR Myth Beta, we're taking a look at the Kongo Class Variant, a starship refit intended to replace the Constitution Class Refit... I hope you enjoy!
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It is a shame, that the lost era only exists in books. i would like to see a show in this time^^
You and me both :)
I do like the Kongo class. Really thought out, and impressive--this seems to fit the timeline so well. Well Done.
What a cool design! And a great way to keep the Connie alive!
I think so too! Thank you so much :)
You're very talented in filling in the gaps with your own spin on the lore.
I'd legit not know if you didn't point it out.
Thank you, I try :)
I never heard of this type ship. Great story telling.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
Would be nice to see the history of the construction class that was distroyed at wolf 359
I LOVE this design!!! Great job! I really love the stories you weave!!!!
Another great video! Any chance we get one on the missions of the Enterprise B? I feel like there are so many great stories that could be told there.
Always a great and well thought out video my dude!
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you :)
It's been a long day. Boy did I need this!
Well glad I could help! :)
Awsome narrative. I love getting these videos. You models are looking better ever video too.
Makes me want to see some snapshots of the interiors when you talk about the modifications. Probably be alot of work to do that though.
Anyway thanks again. Your channel helps me get away from lifes stresses for bit.
Awesome, thank you! And yes it would, and Im not a 3d Modeller, I merely take older models and retexture as Im merely an artist. Thus to have interiors created would take a lot of money and time, and would need to be handed out to an actual modeler! :P
If I'm not mistaken.
This is using the Japanese spelling of the mountain in Japan of the same name, which also The japanese imperial navy Kongo class battlecruisers were named after, these ships would later be refitted into battleships before the second world war.
Speaking of Connie rebirths, would you ever consider doing STO's Exeter Class? A ship class named after a rather controversial vessel due to the part it played in "The Omega Glory" given new purpose!
I like her! She is the perfect child of the NX Class, Original Connie and the Connie Refit. Great strong lines and impressive curves. GRRRRRRRR!! Great video and story, Nerd Approved!!
Couldn't agree more! LOL And thank you!
I love the Kongo Class. Thanks for the video.
You bet! And thank you for the support :)
Another great video. 🖖
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
WOW like the Kongo Class Variant and your episode
Thank you Dom!
🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and form possibly provided ,And I find the Kongo class a very nice design variant and a very cool looking starship indeed!,👌.
Thank you kindly!
"if is not broke Refit it!"
-starfleet maybe
LOL
10/10 Nice work. These constitution variants are awesome. Keep up the good work. Wonder what the variant with the Shuttlebay doors in the saucer section is. There’s a model in TNG “Booby Trap” that has shuttle or bay doors in the saucer. Port and starboard side, maybe forward.
Thank you so much!!! All i see in that episode is a standard Constitution Class Refit model with its Nacelles on sideways... The reason I dont think those black areas are shuttlebays is because the main shuttleday in the secondary hull is not black as well...
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios yeah I got to thinking about that. Nothing more than black markings but the side facing nacelles are an interesting change.
Well it certainly makes one wonder what they are!
Very good video and story. Thank You.
You're very welcome! :)
Not alot of mash-up ships turn out looking this good. May the winds be ever at her back. 🖖
Thank you so much :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios
A worthy successor to the aging Constitution Class. I forgot to mention that.
Then a double thank you to you :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios
A double You're welcome. See you in the next video. Signing off.
Neat design. I like the refit:)
Thank you! Cheers! :)
Omg another video! Now your just spoiling us, thank you very much tho as i build star trek starships on minecraft and your videos give me ideas on how to make them. :)
Also, im gonna hold u for that Cardassian starship video ;D
Once again, thank you very much. :DD
Cool video. Ty
Glad you enjoyed it and You're Welcome :)
What would a Miranda class with a Similar primary hull and Nacelles be like?
Admiral Okita,s flagship
LOL :)
Before moving his flag to the Yamato of course
That is a good looking ship
I love the nacelle design but not a fan of the new saucer. I really would like to see the Miranda saucer mounted in the Kongo saucers place and see if it looks more natural to me.
Love to hear a story of them being pulled out for the Dominion war with massive upgrades to build defenses for Star fleet
Well you wont be hearing that story, as it didnt happen! :P
Conga line
Da, da, da, da, da Yay!
In mind a looks like the Columbia class got a rifit
Also can you pls do the shangri la class
have you ever looked at the bonhomme richard star ship aka the yamato class battleship the tos and tmp versions are outstanding
A Constitution class.... with extra balls.
I prefer to think that the Fed helped the Klingons restore their atmosphere at Q'onos instead of moving planets. There is no Alpha canon that said Praxis was the moon of Q'onos itself, only that it was a Klingon moon. Praxis could have been farther out in the star system and just caused some damage that Carol Marcus could have figured out how to repair with her knowledge of Genesis, that's my head canon on the whole issue. Plus evacuating a planet, save that for the future Romulans, the evacuation would have been easier if they had a 'evacuate Q'onos' model to follow. I know the president mentioned evacuating Q'onos in his speech at the end of the movie, but that doesn't mean it actually happened; further more as Worf pointed out in "Unification, part 1" The klingons like to re-write their history, If they moved their planet, Picard would have known that the Klingons did this as they would have re-written that for sure!
Originally, that's what I thought too... However, Canon has proven that idea to be incorrect. With ST6 saying it was to be a 50 year evac, but also maps of the Federation on screen showing Qonos being in a different place in the 24th century! So sorry, it was definitely and Evac!
Oooooohhhh me likey alotty.
Niiiiiice! :)
have you ever covered the hornet class?
😮 whoa
So will will there be a release for space engine by any chance?
Though I dont have too, I give every 3d Model I import (And a lot I havent made videos on yet) to the Space Engine Addon team. Their schedule for adding ships is speratic as they are working on the actual program itself... So eventually all the models will be there, but I have no control over when!
You know, I'm suddenly wondering why the Constitution class has such an relatively large navigational deflector dish. I mean, the Miranda class has two very small deflector emitters, and the Excelsior class has a much smaller dish.
Actually, the Miranda Class has a lot more than 2 deflector emitters placed all throughout its hull!
And as to the size, thats what this class required!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Do you have a video explaining the dish's size?
No, as again, its pretty self explanatory... Different Classes require different Deflectors that are generally based on the technology level of when the class is created!
Nice 😘
Thanks 🤗
A great ship. It's original template is obvious, but it not only updates the design to incorporate more of the Excelsior technology but to change its role in the fleet. While you and others in the comments alluded to the evolution into the Lost era vessels. I begin to wonder about the ships from Archer's era that were updated to fill roles when the Constitution and Miranda refits were the backbone of the fleet.
I wonder if Spencer's Enterprise A was covered?
Im not sure what you mean was covered... By who? Me? Or in universe?
Ah, the "old" Warp Scale. The one that actually made some degree of SENSE, with a sensible linear progression and no arbitrary upper limit forcing people to come up ever more decimal places after 9 to indicate speed changes. I swear, the new scale with Warp 10 being "infinite speed" was one of the all-time most asinine things introduced into Trek Lore, and I absolutely hate that it wasn't immediately disregarded as soon as ST: Voyager came out with it.
Well given it was Genes idea, in an Era when he was still alive, it would have been sacrilegious to dump it right after he died...
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Was it? The Voyager episode where they introduced the "Warp 10 = Infinite Speed" idea wasn't written until 5 years after Gene Roddenberry's death. Did they take it from notes he left behind or something? Because my impression had always been that it was an invention of the Voyager writers, not Gene himself.
No, it was Genes idea... Taken from the writers bible he created for TNG!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Huh, okay, interesting. I still think it's a god-awful idea, but I get why they didn't just ditch it now.
I dont mind it... It save us hearing ridiculous numbers like Warp 67, and scientifically it makes sense. And again, not only is it canon, but ditching it would be a slap in the face to Trek's creator!
Qa'pla! 🙂
I wish I can play this class on star trek legacy
Do a video on the Valiant refit from Star Trek Legacy Ultimate Universe
Find me a high quality 3d model of it, and Id be happy too!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios bet I gotchu
Sorry wha?!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I'm a 3d modeler ill make it bruh
Ahhhhhh, well I hope it works out then :) As of course, I reserve the right to turn down the model if it doesnt live up to channel standards... And that's nothing personal :)
I like the NX tie-in since it uses the 23rd century "Colombia-Class" NX-refit saucer, a NX customization option I liked in STO (Along with the nacelle's)
I actually have of video request involving the Matsumoto Class and it's Kodai class fighter craft.
The Matsumoto Class is the 23rd Century Akira right? And isnt the Kodai Fighter a fan design?
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Yep, and the Kodai is the Federation starfighter from an older Star Trek game, but I can't think of the name of it at the moment. It was given a name by the developers of STO.
I dont remember it in any old Trek games... You're going to have figure out what it's from and then find me a usable model of it if you want a video on either! :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I'll see what I can find.
Good luck!
The Saucer makes the thin Conny neck look even more frail! T.T
I dont think so, in fact, I think the new saucer offers more protection for the Neck then it's predecessor! But, you can't please everyone!
The Kongo class 🤜🤛 The Vesper class. Bros to the end.
Lol
It seems like the Congo class refit constitution ship looks like the variant the neo constitution is based off of.
Not at all! That is the Shangri-la Class and is VERY different then this design!
This is honestly a minor nitpick, but I don't really like how they changed the Warp Scale for TNG. In TOS the equation was WF=cX^[3] (just take the warp factor and cube it). Simple enough. But in TNG the equation is WF=cX^[10/3] which is hard enough to calculate, and then they went and arbitrarily stuck WF10 as the maximum (which if you follow the equasion would be ~2,155c, or WF12.9 on the old scale), meaning that by the VOY era they were endlessly tacking on decimal point 9's and saying they were even higher velocities. It's just another case of the writers throwing around impressive sounding numbers and equasions not thinking the fans would actually try to figure it out.
Actually, you're wrong... It's got nothing to do with the writers, it was Gene Roddenberry that changed it! Making it a part of his TNG writers guide. Thus the writers had to follow it. You should always place blame where it's due, and know who to blame before placing it!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios well, I consider Roddenberry was technically still one of the writers, considering he was still pretty involved with the show. But my point still stands, it was overcomplicated to keep keep things vague.
But like I said, it's just a minor nitpick of mine
Uh no, LOL Roddenberry was NOT technically a writer, he was technically the Franchises Creator AND the Showrunner for TOS, TAS and TNG... Saying he was technically a writer is not only completely wrong, but also would be like saying a Heart Surgeon is a Dentist... Come on now, you know how silly that sounds.
Also it's not over complicating things what he implemented, it was simplifying things. Fewer numbers, warp factors to consider etc. And put an scientific feel in to the warp scale, to make it more believable!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios look, I don't wanna argue semantics, I'm just saying I prefer the old scale to the new one.
Which is fine, but then just say that... Don't disrespect the creator of the show to support your argument in the process... OR at the very least know the topic you're discussing and place the blame where it belongs, IE "I know Roddenberry created the New Warp Scale, and although I respect him, I just dont like it!"
And PS, it's not semantics, it's fact (Roddenberry being the Creator of Trek, VS Fiction (He's just a writer)
In a ship the size of a Constitution the reactor of an Excelsior class would make for an extremely potent design in terms of its speed and military prospects with the same class of weaponry given its lower mass as well as making a smaller target with a lower crew count than you would expect of the larger Excelsior class design. It would most likely lack the range of an Excelsior class (being limited in terms of storage space by its smaller design which would probably be more cramped than ever with the large Excelsior class reactor) as well as lacking the scientific and facilities. It seems to me that this would be a great patrol ship or escort but it seems unlikely that a ship matching such a description would be a great fit for re-locating a population or building facilities (at least not without some freighter support, in which case why not have the freighter do it?) due to the aforementioned limited storage space.
As the video says, its a modified Excelsior Core, not the same one :P
New Qo’nos, interesting.
I can imagine that only the First City remained on Old Qo’nos following the Praxis incident, while New Qo’nos became the industrial and mostly Agricultural Home-world for the Klingons of the Alpha Quadrant.
While Qo’nos itself, not wanting to be Given up on by the Klingons, would become the Political Homeworld, only having its First City being the only city remaining on the Surface, with An Area of Lands surrounding it, underneath a planetary shield for Sort-of self sustainment and preservation purposes.
This would in turn make the Klingons be one of the few Alpha-Quadrant Powers to have Two Homeworlds, instead of an intact one and a lost one.
I like that idea. and The Kongo made it possible.
And I can see STO’s Vesper-Class, or “Vespies” as they were nicknamed, being a Successor Class to the Kongo, built from Excelsior Components but based on the Kongo configuration, Excellent Design the Kongo was I bet in that case to have a Successor!
Actually, Qonos WAS moved entirely to a new Homeworld... As proven in Canon by ST6 saying so, and by TNG Era (on) maps showing it in a different location then earlier Era Series (ENT, SNW etc) However, I like to believe that given the nature of the Klingon Species, that the Entire First city would have been deconstructed, moved and rebuilt, exactly as it had originally been! :)
the statement "having been the crowning jewel in Starfleet's crown" has always bothered me slightly. I was wondering if i might suggest "having been the pinnacle jewel in Starfleet's crown". i wouldn't expect you to edit the video, but if you do there's no need to credit me. I do enjoy your channel and keep up the good content.
Well no, as the Jewel of a crown is an actual official saying, hence why its used...
Me Saying the U.S.S. prefix on the kongo feels weird being used to the H.I.J.M.S. and IJN prefix. But nice video and i like the starship design
Uhhhhhh ok lol And thank you lol
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I have a question. Do you plan on continuing the Canis major chronicles?
Yes I do!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I have been waiting for episode 5 for a long timeeee. I really love that series
two thoughts. one, in starships, much like boxers, shorter and thicker necks are better then long skinny ones. two. with modest refits the Kongo and other ships like it, could have served for a hundred or more years longer. you don't need a cutting edge warship or cruise ship to do most missions. put this ship on the list of ships i would like to serve on
First thought, just not how it worked for this class...
Second thought, Starfleet didnt really need more vessels doing the Workhorse jobs, it already had enough, most of which was actually designed for those missions! And a 70 year lifespan is pretty good for any class!
It looks like a ship from KLINGON ACADEMY. honestly I like that one better tho.
Lol it looks nothing like that ship lol
Wait, they evacuated Qo'nos?
Yes, that's canon!
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I'm not a fan of this one - it feels like they took all the iconic aspects of the Constitution refit and "genericized" them...
Well, you cant please everyone! Im just glad the majority loves it :)
The class also looks like where they experimented with backportimg new class technology in to older starship hulls it's kind of dissapointing the Maranda class didn't receive the upgraded Oberth style engines likely only getting the downsized Warp reactor from the Maranda class and the upgraded computer systems moving from S/COMS to LCARS systems.