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Used to play this game but it’s so boring with the grinding and its illogical storyline. Add to that constant attacks by other players equals losing very important resources that you can’t advance whatsoever. Literally every day I login to it my Starbase has been attacked and destroyed and all of my ships and a lot of my resources raided (aka: stolen)! It’s literally pay-to-win and a waste of money and time just to play it.
@@Wildwood56 Cryptic made the content he’s talking about though. Thus it’s still 100% Cryptic. In theory, Deca if they wanted to can remove any assets from the game though if they wanted to for they soon will fully own it. Cryptic though still has people working on it.
"Can't just print out the same ship for 40 yeaes" Meanwhile, Exelcuior. . . Sorry, my friend, had to. Btw, awesome videos! Thank you so much for your content.
@ many starships in Starfleet and the Federation have service life dates well over 40 years, that’s usually even they’re recalled for a first refit to receive updates to certain technical advancements. Dialogue has even stated this.
The varients remind me of how during WW2 the start of a run of ships could be very different then the final ship out of the drydock in layout and build.
You mean the French pre dreadnoughts ? :). If you haven't seen Drach's video imagine a nominally "same class of ship" composed of a klingon, romulan, cardassian and a federation ship.
@@venomgeekmedia9886yeah I agree with Merc the tmp akira looks great but even I kinda questioned that like come on I love the idea of a skin being an older ship but what they picked wasn’t the best choice
@@venomgeekmedia9886 I'll tell you why! After the V'ger incident Starfleet goes into both defensive and offensive mode. In late 2273 the UFP realize they need to have ships and vessels that can provide a rapid and maximum response to unknown threats that could decimate the galaxy. So in 2274/75 Three experemental ships are created, called Project Kusanagi. The vessels constructed were The USS Atlantis (NX-1933), USS Kusanagi (NX-2101), and the USS Warspite (NX-1977) Ultimately, it was decided that after these ships were constructed that the Kusanagi Class was in need of revisions, but with tensions between the Romulans and Klingons cooling down...not to mention a classified temporal incident with the Warspite in 2275....plans and future developments were shelved and the remaining prototypes were broken down and salvaged. It would be about a century before the plans of the Kusanagi Class were rediscovered and modernized into the Akira Class.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 There's that, but I do actually prefer to see the Akira as something of at least an *escort carrier* with a lot of torpedoes, hence on the bigger side, whereas the Andor would be more of a smaller missile cruiser. Pretty design, the 'TMP Akira' though, even without the carrier notion, though, with ties back to the NX-01, of course. I do tend to favor the idea of a bigger and more diverse Starfleet than some crisis-heavy 'only ship in the quadrant' movies and such imply, just cause space is still impossibly-incomprehensibly huge in volume even at warp speeds, and also I have to assume other Federation species are doing things while the shows focus mostly on the Human end. Probably room for plenty of ship classes to overlap in functions, basically.
I picked up the Regent when it came out 10-ish years ago, and kitbashed it with the Sovvie secondary hull and nacelle struts to make something beautiful and memorable. Also that wide-angle quantum torpedo launcher was aces.
People wanted the TMP looking Akira-class that’s why it was made and to make money off of it since people wanted it, it was put into a Bundle with a new Valdore/Norexean variant. Plus the Archon-class Assault Cruiser actually looks very good when you actually look at it closely. I act have a character in STO where it’s her main ship. The only minor flaw with it is the nacelles are too thick but that’s a small price to pay when it’s far more powerful than the Regent-class especially when the Regent-class is a Tier 5 well the Archon-Class is a Tier 6
The Regent class is indeed a nice looking 25th centurified Sovereign and an interesting focus on the diplomatic suites for it. Starfleet -gunboat- battlestarship diplomacy. I'd add that while many of the early STO variants have their design issues, the naming scheme is on point. Also, that was quite the Fleet Command sponsorship there.
What do you mean, the Regent-class has no aft torpedo launchers? 18:18 You even show them here! 6:11 They're right next to the shuttlebay, on each sides. Similar motif to the Odyssey-class, even.
Give me that Sovereign class USS Warspite. HMS Warspite is my favorite ship of all time. The Grand Old Lady was never afraid of battle, and even tried to escape into the open ocean while they were towing it in to be scrapped. It should have become a museum ship. Oh well.
You leave that trash can alone. He's doing his best. At least it's ugly in a cute way. Not everything can be a Rifleman, or a Wolverine, or even a ShadowHawk.
This is amazing But i like this: The Avenger class, basically 2 bricks stuck together armoured and armed to hell and back embused with machine spirt of HMS Glowworm
I love the details to your argument, and I agree with almost everything you said here. It works, and you get great reasoning as to why and how. But I LOVE the Archon and the Alita.
Personally I love the look of the tmp variations of ships like akira or nova, I think they look pretty cool and it would work for the akira since the nx class is basically an akira class and it is a solid design
The ad was good. I am a galaxy class defender. Too many are too angry at Starfleet for not building to meet unexpected threats That said I like that as you say the Regent represents the best of both worlds between the Galaxy and the Sovereign.
I have to disagree with you regarding the the Galaxy class ships. Pre Dominion, eveyone from the Talarians ("Darmok"), to the Romulans ("Tin Man"), to Ferengi in junkyard Birds of Preys ("Rascals"), to alien probes ("Arsenal of Freedom", "The Nth Degree"), were slapping the Galaxy class around quite a bit. Also, in "The Jem,Hadar", the Galaxy class Odyssey, was unable to destroy ANY of those Jem'Had bug ships, even WITH the assisstance of two Runabouts. It was unable to get the job done. Combat wise, the pre Dominion Galaxy class was a DUD.
the only example there which actually reflects badly on the galaxy class is Rascals as those BOPs are Specifically identified as B'rels (smaller) so yeah big oopsie on that. but it was probably evenly matched against the tamarians (Neither really wanted a fight) and yeah the D'deridex beats it... because the D'deridex is more than twice the size. and i don't really think strange alien probes count since they are as powerful as the plot demands
@@venomgeekmedia9886 It was hardly "even" with the Tamarians. Their shields were holding, while the Ent-D shields were completely gone, and Data specifically says that "Commander, we can not sustain another hit". Also, in "Tin Man", the Romulan Warbird reduced the Ent-D's shields down by 70% with just a few shots, and those were only "flyby shots" while they were pursuing the "Tin Man" entity, so if they had really opened up on the Ent-D, the Ent-D would have been toast. Throughout TNG, we were TOLD how "powerful" the Galaxy Class was, but what was SHOWN was quite a different matter. Other than that point, I though that you did a great, in depth job on the Regent class.
Ah, yes the Dominion. At that point in the story no Alpha Quadrant power had any defense against polaron weapons and she still was limping home until the kamikaze attack. Saying it did bad against the Dominion is an argument of ships without shields are weaker than ships with shields. However when the shields do work, we get the Wandering Galaxys of the Sacrifice of Angels. Venom should get that reference.
@@gmradio2436 I made it a point to say PRE Dominion ships. But another problem with your point is that I specifically said that the Galaxy class Odyssey wasn't able to destroy a SINGLE Jem'Hadar ship, even after Captain Keogh transferred shield power to weapons, it STILL couldn't destroy ANY of those ships, which had nothing to do with the "poloron weapons".
@@JohnSmith-or8rh Ah yes, the amazing things a software patch can do. I am not even talking war refits, just the shield patch. If you want to say a Galaxy on a rescue mission with effectively no shields is weak against small fast attack ships with shields, then you have a point. That is the same argument most people use to support the Defiant being the best ship in Trek after all. It also cherry picks a very slim and one sided example, not backed by any other evidence. Now to say the Galaxy is a dud is flat out bad statement as it does not give criteria for how the ship is being judged. If you say the Galaxy is a warship, and that is your criteria, I flat out say that is wrong. The Galaxy is not a warship. It is closer to an armed science or diplomatic vessel. A mobile star base is you go off the warp core, but not a warship. So how are you deciding it is a dud? Your criteria? I can understand mocking "poloron" as it is a fake word I misspelled, but weapons? If you want to mock that, at least use triple quotes.
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The sovereign class should have become the true excelsior successor, the combination of firepower, agility, and sensor capacities. the perfect (large/heavy/assault) cruiser. A true all rounder.
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You make an interesting point about Flagships and perhaps how the duty and in fact the layout of the Flagship. I recall my Uncle told me that the HMS Hood had wooden decks, I don't know if that the Hood was unique in that she was the only ship of her class that had the Decks, but it certainly sounds atypical of what one would expect. It certainly had the duty to ferry the Kng abroad, so the Enterprise may have had certain duties most Galaxy class vessels would have.
Enterprise-E *rams Romulan super dreadnought, disabling it, and survives despite the damage* Venom: "The Sovereign wasn't as tough or well armored as later ships" 0_o
yeah i think theres a place for the Ross in the late 24th century. bear in mind it probably came in soon after the dominion war as you had all the infrastructure to build galaxy class ships but less demand. why let that go to waste?
If you think the Reagent is a good looking ship (it is)... check out the Typhoon-class that was just released. It seems to take cues from both the Reagent and Odyssey hulls.
I always felt the Sovereign class was a repurposed starship. Where it mattered, the Galaxy failed in deep space exploration, especially with its large civilian population. It worked as a mobile Starbase, colony ship, surveyor, and diplomatic Starship but was inadequate as a First Contact ship as it was vulnerable to combat. I felt the Sovereign and possibly the Akira were initially meant to complement the Galaxy. They would scout the area, make first contact, and report back. If they lose personnel for they need to stay and fight to keep an area of space Starfleet claimed, they can find replacements with the Galaxy. We know that even before the Borg invasion, the people designing the Galaxy were already working on the next generation, including the Akira. As they share many designs between the Galaxy and Sovereign, it seemed like a go-between design, similar to the Intrepid. We know this with the Hologram of that Engineer as she mentioned they were working on them after the Galaxy Class's first launch. However, the Borg happened, and with a need for defense and to get it out quickly, I can see Starfleet Engineers looking at the Sovereign and Akira, which were meant to be more combat-capable than the Galaxy, for their anti-borg cruiser-size fleet and focusing on making them more lethal while retaining some design aspects that were meant for deep space exploration.
Imo, the Aurora is distinct enough from the Nova. In fact, when I first saw it, I didn't make the connection at all, and that's saying something, because I *love* the Nova, it's my favorite ship. So, I think it works just fine, although I do think it'd look so much better with a neck. Also the Matsumoto _kind of_ works as a missing link between the Akira and NX, but frankly that shouldn't need to be a thing in the first place. Who on Earth thought Akiraprise was a good idea???
While this may sound like an umm actually comment it is not meant to be. On the subject of a ships operational lifespan to be fair there are British royal navy and U.S Navy battleships launched just prior to or during the first world war that were still in operation or might still be operation. That means it has been in use for well over a century unless i can be proven wrong. That kind of reflects in StarTrek with classes like the Miranda that were still in use during Picards time when they had to have been originally launched around the time Kirk entered the admiralty.
No 2 ships are ever exactly the same even of the same class the will all ways be differences from upgrades to modifications its true to life and the ST universe.....love your content Mr Geek 🤓 😊
Take the archon and swap the nacelles with Imperial and you have a lovely design. Also take a look at the black indentations on the rear either side of the shuttle bay. Do I see Torpedo tubes?
The regnant is like a sleek and armored version of the sovereign. It also has that Andromeda class look but with heavy ablative armor. May have done better than the enterprise-e against the scimitar in nemesis.
The Galaxy class Dominion war variant was comarable to a stock Sovereign may be even edges it for me its my favourite class once refitted and fully upgraded the DW Galaxy class with quantums and multiphasic regenative shields and Class X1 phasers not many ships are taking this ship out 😅
I'm still pissed we didn't start off having the option to have "sovereign necelles" on EVERY late 24th century starship in the game. Would've saved from the utter washed out bright colored cartoony mess some of the later winged necelle varients became but also helps mask some of the imperfections of colors on deflectors and wings the vanity often shields create. Plus the fact only a select handful of TOS and Sovereign necelle models made for the game even have PROPERLY ANIMATED NECELLE TIPS to begin with. Thus why the "Premonition-class" is my current favorite for the next few months because of that very logic FINALLY being applied to new c-store ship. The more sovereigny wings the better!
I think it's a good opportunity to ask, but what do you think about the command battle cruiser? They are my favorite sto designs, and I like to think they were created with a allied fleet operatin with the klingons and romulans in mind. Also, how the allied fleet from dominion war (and sto conflicts) operate? Mixed classes wings, or something larger in scale?
So if a ship has regenerative ablative armor does it not still need to uh ...be "fed" for lack of a better term as damage is taken naturally matter is removed as shrapnel that can't be recovered mid battle thus needing the nanites to be given more matter to affect their repairs?
Personally not a fan of the Regent class. Glad others like it and are willing to articulate the reasons why. I can understand the reasons why others like now.
Heh, I dunno how it is in the video games but I feel like you do underestimate the Sovvie as the trim and full-spec battlecruiser she seems to be, I guess at least by comparison to more hulking ships of her own time. Maybe it's a tad unfair to compare her to the very OP and ridiculous unknown Scimitar she still fought to at least a draw, especially when apparently she was designed to be with the battlegroup she couldn't get back to for such occasions but were right there already waiting across the border. Not that this Regent class doesn't sound excellent and next-level.
Would you say in the STO era we see Starfleet having any designs which are built up from the hull purely to act as Battleships first? The Regent seems like a hybridized diplomatic craft/flagship with lots of empty space to use for luxury and events and to show the flag. The Oddyssey is built for, as you said, long range deployments for years on end without resupply. So is anything of the era built up purely as a heavy combat starship or does Starfleet in this era prefer to make their pure combat vessels more cruiser scaled rather than Battlecruiser/Battleship? Ie, something like the Regent but where most of that space is in turn used for weapons, armor, energy, etc. Or is there in turn thanks to the technology no remote reason to build a bigger ship purely for that and more compact ones rule the day when going for a ship of a singular purpose?
@venomgeekmedia9886 17:19 you said its got no aft torpedo tubes, this is 100% not true at 20:37 you can see on either side of the lower shuttle bays you can see at the end of the black sections of hull, torpedo tube launchers
Hey, I like the Noble's nacelles, pylons and secondary hull. But otherwise... yeah not that saucer. I end up sticking the Regent saucer on it... aha. D:
As nice as the top of the ship is, the front lower portion of the secondary hull and bottom of the saucer kinda makes it look like someone "gave up" in the design process as the flat plate with the sovereign deflector just ain't great IMO. You never explained why they removed the rear torpedo launchers altogether though as that seems like a design oversight. Yeah the design is optimised for frontal assault but having no rear ordinance launchers is very odd.
the majestic regent the sovereigns daughter starfleet's new standard battleship basically star fleet realised in the dominon war the Galaxy was basically the primary heavy combat ship and the Jem'Hadar had to once again to bale out the Cardaisians again as a Galaxy wing found the a weak point and pushed through the Jem'Hadra Batlle Cruisers would get smashed
Man I remember when the Regent and Archon were first showed off to fans of the game. The Archon was called a sovereign class hit with the odyssey ugly stick. Man I miss the days when that ship was seen as ugly…
It always puzzled me why they put the bridge of a starship on top of the saucer section where it is most vulnerable. I would put the bridge in the middle of the ship somewhere.
Who were they losing Ambassador class ships to? The Romulans seemed to struggle against one. I also don't believe that an Ambassador being built at the beginning of the production and ones being built through or at the end of the of production life are going to be the same. Improvements and upgrades are going to be incorporated on newer builds from the start. This drastically reduces the need for new classes to cover the same job. I think the Regent is far too big to be a "Workhorse". This Regent class would have a volume approaching around half that of a Galaxy class. Intrepid being around the same size as Excelsior makes sense for being a solid workhorse design. Broadly capable and flexible. Long range, top of the line technology and proven reliability. All the hallmarks of a solid workhorse starship. By the time the 2380s role around it would be in full production with more refinements producing an even more reliable, effective Vessel. Other classes like the rest of the 2370s fleet can cover a lot of those jobs as well. I don't think these ships are so restricted in their ability to function in other roles. "Diplomatic Duties" don't often require ridiculously extensive suites and accommodations to accomplish. If such facilities are needed you'd go to a planet. If the ship is just a transport then it is overkill. If you are conducting Diplomacy on a starship you are there to get work done and need practical facilities. IDK the Regent feels like a Variant of the Sovereign that had use as an interim model. Like a short production run using the Sovereign as a base design that was done to test some upcoming technologies for the Odyssey. Produced in limited numbers it brought improved capabilities and valuable learning experience until more modern and mature designs like Odyssey, Pathfinder and perhaps Guardian and the like were brought into service in decent numbers. I feel the Bellerophon Class was similar, Use Intrepid as a base design to bring some new technologies in while Pathfinder, the proper replacement, is being developed.
Yeah, the main reson I refused STO is because their design-choices are just ridiculously bad. It's either the original ship but with a cosmetical chance (like the blue Sovereign), which is likely only due to the Copyright-shennanigans, or a version that is so losely based on it, it may very well be from a twisted mirror-iniverse.
this is only tangentially related, but this video has me wondering how replicators, especially industrial replicators, play a role in starship construction. replicators can accurately... well... replicate things to the molecular level. but we see a lot of hands on construction of sensative components and maitnence. what are the limits of the replicator here basically i imagine if a starship had an industrial replicator it could fabricate hull paneling and bulkheads to repair damage. but could it fabricate... plasma injectors? maybe repair ablative plate, like nanites can? would love to hear your thoughts. im of the opinion theres no reason a sufficiently powerful replicator couldnt fabricate most things, just needs to be allowed to in the program. and that is for legality, security and probably cultural reasons even. i cant imagine starfleet is fond of taking away creative expression and the ability of one to have a fulfilling life
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Used to play this game but it’s so boring with the grinding and its illogical storyline. Add to that constant attacks by other players equals losing very important resources that you can’t advance whatsoever. Literally every day I login to it my Starbase has been attacked and destroyed and all of my ships and a lot of my resources raided (aka: stolen)! It’s literally pay-to-win and a waste of money and time just to play it.
@venomgeekmedia9886. That wuld be daca now not crytic any more
@@Wildwood56 Cryptic made the content he’s talking about though. Thus it’s still 100% Cryptic. In theory, Deca if they wanted to can remove any assets from the game though if they wanted to for they soon will fully own it. Cryptic though still has people working on it.
"Can't just print out the same ship for 40 yeaes"
Meanwhile, Exelcuior. . .
Sorry, my friend, had to. Btw, awesome videos! Thank you so much for your content.
@ many starships in Starfleet and the Federation have service life dates well over 40 years, that’s usually even they’re recalled for a first refit to receive updates to certain technical advancements. Dialogue has even stated this.
The varients remind me of how during WW2 the start of a run of ships could be very different then the final ship out of the drydock in layout and build.
You mean the French pre dreadnoughts ? :).
If you haven't seen Drach's video imagine a nominally "same class of ship" composed of a klingon, romulan, cardassian and a federation ship.
I find the sovereign-class both elegant and powerful for its time.
"How big is this ship? How much did this thing cost?"
"The economics of the future are different: about 50 bucks."
The whole time you do that Romulin voice, I’m waiting to hear a sinister “MUAHAHAHAHA” laugh. 😂
starfleet wanted a new work horse fleet before they rolled out the Odyssey
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You take that back! The TMP Akira is beautiful!
why must there be an Akira in the TMP era? why can't we have Andor?
@venomgeekmedia9886 hey, I didnt say it made sense lol. I just said it was beautiful
@@venomgeekmedia9886yeah I agree with Merc the tmp akira looks great but even I kinda questioned that like come on I love the idea of a skin being an older ship but what they picked wasn’t the best choice
@@venomgeekmedia9886 I'll tell you why! After the V'ger incident Starfleet goes into both defensive and offensive mode. In late 2273 the UFP realize they need to have ships and vessels that can provide a rapid and maximum response to unknown threats that could decimate the galaxy. So in 2274/75 Three experemental ships are created, called Project Kusanagi. The vessels constructed were The USS Atlantis (NX-1933), USS Kusanagi (NX-2101), and the USS Warspite (NX-1977)
Ultimately, it was decided that after these ships were constructed that the Kusanagi Class was in need of revisions, but with tensions between the Romulans and Klingons cooling down...not to mention a classified temporal incident with the Warspite in 2275....plans and future developments were shelved and the remaining prototypes were broken down and salvaged.
It would be about a century before the plans of the Kusanagi Class were rediscovered and modernized into the Akira Class.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 There's that, but I do actually prefer to see the Akira as something of at least an *escort carrier* with a lot of torpedoes, hence on the bigger side, whereas the Andor would be more of a smaller missile cruiser. Pretty design, the 'TMP Akira' though, even without the carrier notion, though, with ties back to the NX-01, of course. I do tend to favor the idea of a bigger and more diverse Starfleet than some crisis-heavy 'only ship in the quadrant' movies and such imply, just cause space is still impossibly-incomprehensibly huge in volume even at warp speeds, and also I have to assume other Federation species are doing things while the shows focus mostly on the Human end. Probably room for plenty of ship classes to overlap in functions, basically.
I picked up the Regent when it came out 10-ish years ago, and kitbashed it with the Sovvie secondary hull and nacelle struts to make something beautiful and memorable.
Also that wide-angle quantum torpedo launcher was aces.
Justice for the Aurora, Andromeda, and Archon!
I'm willing to have a fun conversation about any ship here.
I am as well, I love most of the STO originals.
The Regent-class' nacelles are the most refined part of the design, and my personal favorite part.
No rear firing photon torpedo launchers?!!! Egads!
Trek would be a wild franchise if its shows were anything as random as most of its games, lol.
i mean there is the curry class
A show based on a Regent class would be nice.
People wanted the TMP looking Akira-class that’s why it was made and to make money off of it since people wanted it, it was put into a Bundle with a new Valdore/Norexean variant.
Plus the Archon-class Assault Cruiser actually looks very good when you actually look at it closely. I act have a character in STO where it’s her main ship. The only minor flaw with it is the nacelles are too thick but that’s a small price to pay when it’s far more powerful than the Regent-class especially when the Regent-class is a Tier 5 well the Archon-Class is a Tier 6
The Regent class is indeed a nice looking 25th centurified Sovereign and an interesting focus on the diplomatic suites for it. Starfleet -gunboat- battlestarship diplomacy.
I'd add that while many of the early STO variants have their design issues, the naming scheme is on point.
Also, that was quite the Fleet Command sponsorship there.
What do you mean, the Regent-class has no aft torpedo launchers? 18:18
You even show them here! 6:11
They're right next to the shuttlebay, on each sides. Similar motif to the Odyssey-class, even.
@@zoberraz I can't see any where are they?
Blue , well done 😂
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@venomgeekmedia9886 😂
Now we need a proper odyssey class video (and maybe talk about my beloved the Lexington)
I do wish the stardrive section was a little beefier.
TMP Akira is a great design :(
I love Star Trek online ship varients
Give me that Sovereign class USS Warspite. HMS Warspite is my favorite ship of all time. The Grand Old Lady was never afraid of battle, and even tried to escape into the open ocean while they were towing it in to be scrapped. It should have become a museum ship. Oh well.
Well the Visir only exists because of a toy being made before the movie was complete.
intresting i didn't know that... man remember when star trek liscensed toys...
@@venomgeekmedia9886 the Visir is more than anything a sub variant or an experimental testbed like QSD or improved regular warp drive.
Seeing the deformaties, it makes me wonder if the people at cryptic are the kind of people who think the Urbanmech looks good.
You leave that trash can alone. He's doing his best. At least it's ugly in a cute way. Not everything can be a Rifleman, or a Wolverine, or even a ShadowHawk.
This is amazing
But i like this:
The Avenger class, basically 2 bricks stuck together armoured and armed to hell and back embused with machine spirt of HMS Glowworm
I love the details to your argument, and I agree with almost everything you said here. It works, and you get great reasoning as to why and how.
But I LOVE the Archon and the Alita.
Personally I love the look of the tmp variations of ships like akira or nova, I think they look pretty cool and it would work for the akira since the nx class is basically an akira class and it is a solid design
but you have the Columbia, but also i think progress should be shown by the changing shape of spaceframes.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 "Constitution III" because apparently Star Fleet -also- wanted to make nostalgia sales!
@@venomgeekmedia9886 iirc that TMP akira varient actualy has a Japanese name cuz of the torpedos that came with it wat was it? mm Myrimoto varient?
@@maxpower291 Matsumoto, after famed artist and mangka Leiji Matsumoto.
I really hope they get to remastering the Sovereign-class assualt cruiser line in STO. The Regent needs some hi-def loving!
The ad was good. I am a galaxy class defender. Too many are too angry at Starfleet for not building to meet unexpected threats That said I like that as you say the Regent represents the best of both worlds between the Galaxy and the Sovereign.
"A floating hotel at sea...." eery Titanic vibes. But Regent is beautiful.
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I have to disagree with you regarding the the Galaxy class ships. Pre Dominion, eveyone from the Talarians ("Darmok"), to the Romulans ("Tin Man"), to Ferengi in junkyard Birds of Preys ("Rascals"), to alien probes ("Arsenal of Freedom", "The Nth Degree"), were slapping the Galaxy class around quite a bit. Also, in "The Jem,Hadar", the Galaxy class Odyssey, was unable to destroy ANY of those Jem'Had bug ships, even WITH the assisstance of two Runabouts. It was unable to get the job done. Combat wise, the pre Dominion Galaxy class was a DUD.
the only example there which actually reflects badly on the galaxy class is Rascals as those BOPs are Specifically identified as B'rels (smaller) so yeah big oopsie on that.
but it was probably evenly matched against the tamarians (Neither really wanted a fight)
and yeah the D'deridex beats it... because the D'deridex is more than twice the size.
and i don't really think strange alien probes count since they are as powerful as the plot demands
@@venomgeekmedia9886 It was hardly "even" with the Tamarians. Their shields were holding, while the Ent-D shields were completely gone, and Data specifically says that "Commander, we can not sustain another hit". Also, in "Tin Man", the Romulan Warbird reduced the Ent-D's shields down by 70% with just a few shots, and those were only "flyby shots" while they were pursuing the "Tin Man" entity, so if they had really opened up on the Ent-D, the Ent-D would have been toast.
Throughout TNG, we were TOLD how "powerful" the Galaxy Class was, but what was SHOWN was quite a different matter. Other than that point, I though that you did a great, in depth job on the Regent class.
Ah, yes the Dominion. At that point in the story no Alpha Quadrant power had any defense against polaron weapons and she still was limping home until the kamikaze attack.
Saying it did bad against the Dominion is an argument of ships without shields are weaker than ships with shields.
However when the shields do work, we get the Wandering Galaxys of the Sacrifice of Angels. Venom should get that reference.
@@gmradio2436 I made it a point to say PRE Dominion ships. But another problem with your point is that I specifically said that the Galaxy class Odyssey wasn't able to destroy a SINGLE Jem'Hadar ship, even after Captain Keogh transferred shield power to weapons, it STILL couldn't destroy ANY of those ships, which had nothing to do with the "poloron weapons".
@@JohnSmith-or8rh Ah yes, the amazing things a software patch can do. I am not even talking war refits, just the shield patch.
If you want to say a Galaxy on a rescue mission with effectively no shields is weak against small fast attack ships with shields, then you have a point. That is the same argument most people use to support the Defiant being the best ship in Trek after all. It also cherry picks a very slim and one sided example, not backed by any other evidence.
Now to say the Galaxy is a dud is flat out bad statement as it does not give criteria for how the ship is being judged. If you say the Galaxy is a warship, and that is your criteria, I flat out say that is wrong. The Galaxy is not a warship. It is closer to an armed science or diplomatic vessel. A mobile star base is you go off the warp core, but not a warship.
So how are you deciding it is a dud? Your criteria?
I can understand mocking "poloron" as it is a fake word I misspelled, but weapons? If you want to mock that, at least use triple quotes.
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The U.S.S Superintendent Chalmers... oh wait that said Chamlers lol.
close enough: "Skinneeeeer!"
Can you do a video on the Excalibur class the federations answer to the dominion battleship?
oh nooo not the THICC sovereign
The sovereign class should have become the true excelsior successor, the combination of firepower, agility, and sensor capacities. the perfect (large/heavy/assault) cruiser. A true all rounder.
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You make an interesting point about Flagships and perhaps how the duty and in fact the layout of the Flagship. I recall my Uncle told me that the HMS Hood had wooden decks, I don't know if that the Hood was unique in that she was the only ship of her class that had the Decks, but it certainly sounds atypical of what one would expect. It certainly had the duty to ferry the Kng abroad, so the Enterprise may have had certain duties most Galaxy class vessels would have.
19:00 regenerative armor sounds a lot like the tech Voyager brought back, though it isn't quite as advanced as Voyager's armor generators.
Enterprise-E *rams Romulan super dreadnought, disabling it, and survives despite the damage*
Venom: "The Sovereign wasn't as tough or well armored as later ships" 0_o
I love almost everything about this ship, but that deflector really could use some aesthetic upgrades lol
i mean the ship all round could use a remaster.
Great video! More 25th century ships, please!
Also, would this take the place of the Ross Class Diplomatic Cruiser? Would the latter even be built?
yeah i think theres a place for the Ross in the late 24th century. bear in mind it probably came in soon after the dominion war as you had all the infrastructure to build galaxy class ships but less demand. why let that go to waste?
If you think the Reagent is a good looking ship (it is)... check out the Typhoon-class that was just released. It seems to take cues from both the Reagent and Odyssey hulls.
I always felt the Sovereign class was a repurposed starship. Where it mattered, the Galaxy failed in deep space exploration, especially with its large civilian population. It worked as a mobile Starbase, colony ship, surveyor, and diplomatic Starship but was inadequate as a First Contact ship as it was vulnerable to combat. I felt the Sovereign and possibly the Akira were initially meant to complement the Galaxy. They would scout the area, make first contact, and report back. If they lose personnel for they need to stay and fight to keep an area of space Starfleet claimed, they can find replacements with the Galaxy.
We know that even before the Borg invasion, the people designing the Galaxy were already working on the next generation, including the Akira. As they share many designs between the Galaxy and Sovereign, it seemed like a go-between design, similar to the Intrepid. We know this with the Hologram of that Engineer as she mentioned they were working on them after the Galaxy Class's first launch.
However, the Borg happened, and with a need for defense and to get it out quickly, I can see Starfleet Engineers looking at the Sovereign and Akira, which were meant to be more combat-capable than the Galaxy, for their anti-borg cruiser-size fleet and focusing on making them more lethal while retaining some design aspects that were meant for deep space exploration.
Imo, the Aurora is distinct enough from the Nova. In fact, when I first saw it, I didn't make the connection at all, and that's saying something, because I *love* the Nova, it's my favorite ship. So, I think it works just fine, although I do think it'd look so much better with a neck.
Also the Matsumoto _kind of_ works as a missing link between the Akira and NX, but frankly that shouldn't need to be a thing in the first place. Who on Earth thought Akiraprise was a good idea???
While this may sound like an umm actually comment it is not meant to be. On the subject of a ships operational lifespan to be fair there are British royal navy and U.S Navy battleships launched just prior to or during the first world war that were still in operation or might still be operation. That means it has been in use for well over a century unless i can be proven wrong. That kind of reflects in StarTrek with classes like the Miranda that were still in use during Picards time when they had to have been originally launched around the time Kirk entered the admiralty.
No 2 ships are ever exactly the same even of the same class the will all ways be differences from upgrades to modifications its true to life and the ST universe.....love your content Mr Geek 🤓 😊
What's the difference between photon and quantum torpedo launchers? Can't Starfleet just make them both of the same size to use legacy launchers?
Regent needs a remaster, as well as all the sovy variants from OG.
To save some of you a trip to Google, si vis pacem para bellum means “If you seek peace, prepare for war.”
Take the archon and swap the nacelles with Imperial and you have a lovely design. Also take a look at the black indentations on the rear either side of the shuttle bay. Do I see Torpedo tubes?
You know, I at least try to be _subtle_ in my fanboying over my Emissary 'Scheherazade'
Yep…
Gorgeous boat.
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Hearing Picard saying buggar is funny, shame he's french.
Merde'
Blame the time he spent in London.
@@gmradio2436 You won't hear English swear words in london, you'll most likely hear "allah akbar".
@@JammyONE That is literally the reason they gave for Picard's accent.
Nova class guy here! Give me the tactical variety please!
The regnant is like a sleek and armored version of the sovereign. It also has that Andromeda class look but with heavy ablative armor. May have done better than the enterprise-e against the scimitar in nemesis.
far more elegant than andromeda though
The Galaxy class Dominion war variant was comarable to a stock Sovereign may be even edges it for me its my favourite class once refitted and fully upgraded the DW Galaxy class with quantums and multiphasic regenative shields and Class X1 phasers not many ships are taking this ship out 😅
I'm still pissed we didn't start off having the option to have "sovereign necelles" on EVERY late 24th century starship in the game. Would've saved from the utter washed out bright colored cartoony mess some of the later winged necelle varients became but also helps mask some of the imperfections of colors on deflectors and wings the vanity often shields create. Plus the fact only a select handful of TOS and Sovereign necelle models made for the game even have PROPERLY ANIMATED NECELLE TIPS to begin with. Thus why the "Premonition-class" is my current favorite for the next few months because of that very logic FINALLY being applied to new c-store ship. The more sovereigny wings the better!
Your Worf sounds more like Picard.
I think it's a good opportunity to ask, but what do you think about the command battle cruiser?
They are my favorite sto designs, and I like to think they were created with a allied fleet operatin with the klingons and romulans in mind.
Also, how the allied fleet from dominion war (and sto conflicts) operate? Mixed classes wings, or something larger in scale?
That push for the game is way better as the actual game...
i loved mine in sto...with the aegis set
The Regents is the Kingsman of Federation starships…
Good information
"You can't just print out the same ship for 40 years".
Are you sure you don't want to rephrase that a bit :)) ?
(Miranda, Excelsior, BoP, K'tinga).
lol the opening was funny
So if a ship has regenerative ablative armor does it not still need to uh ...be "fed" for lack of a better term as damage is taken naturally matter is removed as shrapnel that can't be recovered mid battle thus needing the nanites to be given more matter to affect their repairs?
So the start of this is your equivalent to Drachs “When Hotels Go To War”?
So a Defiant the size of a sovereign
Personally not a fan of the Regent class. Glad others like it and are willing to articulate the reasons why. I can understand the reasons why others like now.
I thought the Sovereign was basically the 24th Century's version of the Excelsior with a potential hopeful replacement of the entire fleet?
Heh, I dunno how it is in the video games but I feel like you do underestimate the Sovvie as the trim and full-spec battlecruiser she seems to be, I guess at least by comparison to more hulking ships of her own time. Maybe it's a tad unfair to compare her to the very OP and ridiculous unknown Scimitar she still fought to at least a draw, especially when apparently she was designed to be with the battlegroup she couldn't get back to for such occasions but were right there already waiting across the border.
Not that this Regent class doesn't sound excellent and next-level.
Would you say in the STO era we see Starfleet having any designs which are built up from the hull purely to act as Battleships first? The Regent seems like a hybridized diplomatic craft/flagship with lots of empty space to use for luxury and events and to show the flag. The Oddyssey is built for, as you said, long range deployments for years on end without resupply.
So is anything of the era built up purely as a heavy combat starship or does Starfleet in this era prefer to make their pure combat vessels more cruiser scaled rather than Battlecruiser/Battleship?
Ie, something like the Regent but where most of that space is in turn used for weapons, armor, energy, etc. Or is there in turn thanks to the technology no remote reason to build a bigger ship purely for that and more compact ones rule the day when going for a ship of a singular purpose?
Regent looks more like a battlecruiser the Odyssey Battleship.
The narendra is my favorite starship tied with the tmp connie
Ceramite armour huh? Sounds very familiar
Mhm... I still think that it looks like someone tried to build a Papercraft version of the Sovereign and accidentally stepped on it.
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17:19 you said its got no aft torpedo tubes, this is 100% not true at 20:37 you can see on either side of the lower shuttle bays you can see at the end of the black sections of hull, torpedo tube launchers
Hey, I like the Noble's nacelles, pylons and secondary hull. But otherwise... yeah not that saucer. I end up sticking the Regent saucer on it... aha. D:
As nice as the top of the ship is, the front lower portion of the secondary hull and bottom of the saucer kinda makes it look like someone "gave up" in the design process as the flat plate with the sovereign deflector just ain't great IMO.
You never explained why they removed the rear torpedo launchers altogether though as that seems like a design oversight. Yeah the design is optimised for frontal assault but having no rear ordinance launchers is very odd.
@@JimmyBlether yeah the deflector is very small. I guess because the ship was so maneuverable they didn't think it was a problem
the majestic regent the sovereigns daughter starfleet's new standard battleship basically star fleet realised in the dominon war the Galaxy was basically the primary heavy combat ship and the Jem'Hadar had to once again to bale out the Cardaisians again as a Galaxy wing found the a weak point and pushed through the Jem'Hadra Batlle Cruisers would get smashed
"Ceramite Armor"
...Oh no
Man I remember when the Regent and Archon were first showed off to fans of the game. The Archon was called a sovereign class hit with the odyssey ugly stick. Man I miss the days when that ship was seen as ugly…
It always puzzled me why they put the bridge of a starship on top of the saucer section where it is most vulnerable. I would put the bridge in the middle of the ship somewhere.
apparently its to show scale... it's trek's thing, if you want sensible ship design, go to Babylon 5 or Battlestar Galactica!
@@khidorahian Fair enough. 👍
How about doing the Real enterprise G, the eclipse class
My obligatory beg for a video on the Insignia class (even if you hate it) lol
I use the hideous designs for some Terran loadouts.
Great video, but i would put money on one sovereign over two galaxy class. Shame cuz i love the galaxy
Who were they losing Ambassador class ships to? The Romulans seemed to struggle against one. I also don't believe that an Ambassador being built at the beginning of the production and ones being built through or at the end of the of production life are going to be the same.
Improvements and upgrades are going to be incorporated on newer builds from the start. This drastically reduces the need for new classes to cover the same job.
I think the Regent is far too big to be a "Workhorse". This Regent class would have a volume approaching around half that of a Galaxy class.
Intrepid being around the same size as Excelsior makes sense for being a solid workhorse design. Broadly capable and flexible. Long range, top of the line technology and proven reliability. All the hallmarks of a solid workhorse starship.
By the time the 2380s role around it would be in full production with more refinements producing an even more reliable, effective Vessel.
Other classes like the rest of the 2370s fleet can cover a lot of those jobs as well. I don't think these ships are so restricted in their ability to function in other roles.
"Diplomatic Duties" don't often require ridiculously extensive suites and accommodations to accomplish. If such facilities are needed you'd go to a planet. If the ship is just a transport then it is overkill. If you are conducting Diplomacy on a starship you are there to get work done and need practical facilities.
IDK the Regent feels like a Variant of the Sovereign that had use as an interim model.
Like a short production run using the Sovereign as a base design that was done to test some upcoming technologies for the Odyssey. Produced in limited numbers it brought improved capabilities and valuable learning experience until more modern and mature designs like Odyssey, Pathfinder and perhaps Guardian and the like were brought into service in decent numbers.
I feel the Bellerophon Class was similar, Use Intrepid as a base design to bring some new technologies in while Pathfinder, the proper replacement, is being developed.
They were simply obsolete by the mid 2370s, i think..
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Yeah, the main reson I refused STO is because their design-choices are just ridiculously bad. It's either the original ship but with a cosmetical chance (like the blue Sovereign), which is likely only due to the Copyright-shennanigans, or a version that is so losely based on it, it may very well be from a twisted mirror-iniverse.
Are you sure you spelled it right, Odyssey @14.10
this is only tangentially related, but this video has me wondering how replicators, especially industrial replicators, play a role in starship construction. replicators can accurately... well... replicate things to the molecular level. but we see a lot of hands on construction of sensative components and maitnence. what are the limits of the replicator here basically
i imagine if a starship had an industrial replicator it could fabricate hull paneling and bulkheads to repair damage. but could it fabricate... plasma injectors? maybe repair ablative plate, like nanites can?
would love to hear your thoughts. im of the opinion theres no reason a sufficiently powerful replicator couldnt fabricate most things, just needs to be allowed to in the program. and that is for legality, security and probably cultural reasons even. i cant imagine starfleet is fond of taking away creative expression and the ability of one to have a fulfilling life
The ship is great but your commercial not so much so !
Cool technology improvements but damn these ships are getting longer, skinnier, and pancake looking
The deflector dish is way too small, looks like a dang nipple!! 🤣🤣🤣
Great video as always ! Practice your American accent lol
The naming convention is lazy, and don't sound very federaley (sovereign don't really but hay)